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A Long Day with the Falcons

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Pigeonmania

Pigeonmania

Күн бұрын

Probably the longest chasing day with the peregrine falcons and my racing pigeons.

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@beresclements2211
@beresclements2211 4 жыл бұрын
i feel like im the only one who feels bad for the falcon LOL like he puts in all that hard work but catches nothing but air incredible footage !
@involver4499
@involver4499 3 жыл бұрын
only these pigeons could face the falcon.. they are warriors... they have skill 😍🙌😘😘😘😘
@michaelwhitman1247
@michaelwhitman1247 9 ай бұрын
You are better than anything ive seen on Netflix in the last 2 years
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 9 ай бұрын
Ha ha, thank you.
@ismailbigharassen9576
@ismailbigharassen9576 4 жыл бұрын
That’s amazing dude ! I was waiting for this video ! Your pigeon are so damn fast ! I can’t understand how he miss in every attack , i do have carrier pigeons as well but the peregrine get it’s prey after 5 or 6 attacks .. probably because yours are used to see him around ! My greetings from Morocco! Keep it up , and wish i can visit you in Romania one day 🤙🏻
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
Breed smaller light pigeons and it will be better. Many of my pigeons are about half the size of normal pigeons I see in the club's racing car.
@douglaslee6055
@douglaslee6055 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Pigeonmaniacom Good point! Many of my lighter birds are way more agile than the bigger ones.
@MrTubestars
@MrTubestars 4 жыл бұрын
لعاز لخويا ديما morocco
@alexscolavino3301
@alexscolavino3301 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!! Was waiting for another video. Awesome job filming. Love these videos and cant wait for the next one.
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
3:42 - Miss Ambition passing her hardest survival exam.
@antma9028
@antma9028 4 жыл бұрын
Gday, awesome again!! How long have you had Pigeons?
@v.l2739
@v.l2739 4 жыл бұрын
You have to see the "spizaetus melanoleucus" hunting pigeons
@streetking6733
@streetking6733 4 жыл бұрын
Hello this is kayde what's your name
@PPALoft
@PPALoft 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed Those were some intense seconds right there and she knew exactly where to go to be safe after escape. Great video, again. Amazing pigeons!
@silviucocos7513
@silviucocos7513 4 жыл бұрын
Foarte buni ,antrenați foarte bine ,nu face față șoimu' în fața lor,mult succes si respect!👍💣
@codrinptpt
@codrinptpt 3 жыл бұрын
1. In one of the first attacks at min 3.45 I think the falcon got some of the pigeons tale feathers then the pigeon landed on trees 2. The last chase starting at min 11.53 at the end of the video was phenomenal! would say it’s Coronita because that’s the only one I know by name haha 3. This is my favourite video of all. Soooo many unbelievable chases. The pigeons are the best I’ve seen and so are those (damn) falcons hehe
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 3 жыл бұрын
No Coronita there. :p Yes, the chases are very long but I cut a lot because they might be boring for many users. I'll probably post a few full chases, minutes long, including falcon's strategy, repositioning, etc.
@codrinptpt
@codrinptpt 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom I would be very interested to see longer versions. Falcon pretending to leave and then back on attack mode! I already knew that your homing pigeons are real athletes but I didn’t know that the damn falcon has so much stamina! I remember a documentary about pigeons and falcons and the guy was saying the falcon can only keep up the chase for a few minutes and the pigeon could last the whole day! But it looked to me like those falcons are not easily tired! Looking forward to more of your videos they’re the best!
@Semendrija123
@Semendrija123 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom beautiful videos in every way! Great camera job, and please upload the long versions! I’m a falconer and this type of speed and stamina you can’t get from a falconry bird! It would be very interesting to see the tactics wild falcons use. And your pigeons are amazing! Greetings from 🇷🇸!
@tomwallhead6950
@tomwallhead6950 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing to watch
@tomwallhead6950
@tomwallhead6950 4 жыл бұрын
Are you using natural selection to get the best for racing?
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
​@@tomwallhead6950 , I don't let the main racing team fly outside in winter when these attacks are very intense. The pigeons in the video are a separate team, a free range stock loft and I never race them at the club but they are bred from the best racers. Yes, I let the natural selection shape this team: falcons and also no medication ever. In spring-summer I breed from them, some youngsters refill the empty slots from falcon losses in this team and others go in the main racing team to mix back with the racers for a resistance boost. But I'm not doing it especially for racing, I like to experiment and try to create an agile line.
@pegioncluba1indianhighflye709
@pegioncluba1indianhighflye709 2 жыл бұрын
amazing video 📹👏❤love from India 🇮🇳,
@grahammoore6386
@grahammoore6386 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. You have a new subscriber from Northern Ireland.
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome! Glad you liked it.
@chciprianionut4289
@chciprianionut4289 4 жыл бұрын
Cred ca m-am îndrăgostit😍😅 adevărul este că DA, porumbeii pot face față pradatorilor DACĂ au parte de o îngrijire corespunzătoare. ✋ respect. Faci bine ce faci Am însă o doză de admirație și pentru pradatori. În fond, ei creează show-ul. Mai mult privesc pradatorii ca parteneri ai porumbeilor, si nu ca dușmani. Ei mă ajută, nu imi fac nici un rău.
@user-em3be4pt9w
@user-em3be4pt9w 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, but with you the falcons chase more than with us, ours 1.2 times and give up, yours doesn't stop
@Kabootarbazivlogs
@Kabootarbazivlogs 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video brother and pigeons
@user-uk7ko3bp7q
@user-uk7ko3bp7q 3 жыл бұрын
Good pigeons 🔥❤️ Respect from Iraq 🇮🇶
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@fafakilo
@fafakilo 4 жыл бұрын
Espetacular, parabéns!
@canarslan
@canarslan 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Very entertaining.
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@358alejo
@358alejo 4 жыл бұрын
amazing video, your pigeons are incredible birds, congrats
@involver4499
@involver4499 3 жыл бұрын
Nu cred ca exista pe tot youtube ul un video mai tare decat asta! cat de insistent poate sa fie soimul de la turn si cum rezista porumbeii atacurilor! n ai cum sa nu ai pierderi oricat de buni ar fi, la prima eschiva ratata e game over!
@gpsloft5868
@gpsloft5868 4 жыл бұрын
Dang!!! Great video!
@JASPREETSINGH-ms5hp
@JASPREETSINGH-ms5hp 4 жыл бұрын
Do all the towers around the world have falcons on them now...!!! and I thought I'm the unlucky one. Looks like falcons did their homework. There were so many close calls and nail biting moments. My mouth was agape the whole time. I think Ms. Ambition lost some tail feathers before she crash landed into that tree. She's fine??? It was an intense battle, but with your birds I knew I would be able to show the falcons UP in the end, if you know what I mean🤭 Thank you man, for this amazing video.
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
She's fine, now she has two little babies that have a lot of white in the feathers I think. Can't wait to see them covered in feathers.
@JASPREETSINGH-ms5hp
@JASPREETSINGH-ms5hp 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom That's great.. hope to see them soon, flying around the loft.
@samuilmocan1708
@samuilmocan1708 4 жыл бұрын
Bravo copii,,bravo children you did a good job today
@badrbidro6478
@badrbidro6478 4 жыл бұрын
الله يبارك ديما مشاء الله تبارك 👍👈✌❤بطل
@leonardobandiera5323
@leonardobandiera5323 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing vídeo !! Pigeons too fast !!
@frimran8219
@frimran8219 4 жыл бұрын
Pigeons are very clever and fast.
@barsbuyukdogan8520
@barsbuyukdogan8520 4 жыл бұрын
King 🕊 🇹🇷🇹🇷
@markoarandjelovic4539
@markoarandjelovic4539 3 жыл бұрын
Very experienced pigeons, who have the skill to escape birds of prey..
@palomardemensajeraslopez3332
@palomardemensajeraslopez3332 4 жыл бұрын
WoW!! very powerful females!! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻😃
@basitiqbal9267
@basitiqbal9267 3 жыл бұрын
Great pegions and great vedio
@falconryandwildlifevideos6200
@falconryandwildlifevideos6200 3 жыл бұрын
your pigeons are impressive , and the footage excellent
@HSumF
@HSumF 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video !!! Congratulations!!!
@brahimallaoui3463
@brahimallaoui3463 4 жыл бұрын
Good exercice 🤗😄
@alexandrualexandru9566
@alexandrualexandru9566 4 жыл бұрын
În zonele împădurite unde sunt mulți șoimi și uli supraviețuiesc doar cei puternici îștia da porumbei plus că vine antrenorul zilnic de 2,3 ORI.
@adamadam-ew1pu
@adamadam-ew1pu 4 жыл бұрын
Mash alah perfekt :-) from denmarak
@ayoubsaidi6216
@ayoubsaidi6216 3 жыл бұрын
Good Job champions i support you every day From Morocco 😍
@oanas7681
@oanas7681 4 жыл бұрын
Deci mi-au transpirat pumnii de cat i-am strans :)) Ai zice ca-s pe psihotrope copiii astia :))) Bravo soldatii , B R A V O !!!
@MohamedAlrashede
@MohamedAlrashede 4 жыл бұрын
هذا الحمام معدل مكينته رياضيه تيربوا👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@involver4499
@involver4499 3 жыл бұрын
incredibil cum se regrupeaza porumbeii dupa fiecare atac 😘
@user-fe6ci7pm1l
@user-fe6ci7pm1l 4 жыл бұрын
A bunch of nerves must have
@noeldevera6356
@noeldevera6356 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@jazimjazim4624
@jazimjazim4624 4 жыл бұрын
Your pigeons are awesome 🔥🔥
@fereshteh5205
@fereshteh5205 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video and very fast pigeons 👍👍, are the pigeons hungry during Fly ?
@artonamuchuku1276
@artonamuchuku1276 4 жыл бұрын
The tower falcon was so persistence...your pigeons are fit man..any hawks attack??please post
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
A few hawk attacks, will post later. This is why it was an easier winter, with double attacks when hawks attack down after the pigeons escape from the falcon, that really sucks.
@omaralfaris3339
@omaralfaris3339 4 жыл бұрын
Very big kiss for the hero(Falcon)
@JoyTaiwan
@JoyTaiwan 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@frimran8219
@frimran8219 4 жыл бұрын
I think pigeons are the fastest animals after watching this video ,,,,
@IonutIonut-pw1ik
@IonutIonut-pw1ik 3 жыл бұрын
WOW asa porumbei tot sa ai uliul nu facea fata si ma mir ca a rezistat atat uliul ca de obicei se lasa batut din prima porumbei bine antrenati se vede ca ai timp sa petreci printre ei si sa ai grija de ei mie imi plac porumbei de genu pentru ca imi plac ca lupta pentru viata lor si nu se lasa batuti nice porumbei mult noroc cu ei sa te bucuri de eii frate
@ahmetyay9818
@ahmetyay9818 3 жыл бұрын
Efsane bi video olmuş 👍 devamını bekliyoruz
@andriyshmidt6277
@andriyshmidt6277 3 жыл бұрын
Голуби супер!!!!!!
@sabinmaharjan8613
@sabinmaharjan8613 4 жыл бұрын
Its amazing🤩✌🤩
@goshawker
@goshawker 4 жыл бұрын
Well fit homers!
@giorgikipshidze3674
@giorgikipshidze3674 4 жыл бұрын
super
@chiinoachraf7528
@chiinoachraf7528 4 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥❤❤❤❤💪💪💪💪
@christianpaquibot2460
@christianpaquibot2460 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos but i wish you make a turorial for fast trapping cause i cant get my pigeon to trap that fast
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
Feed less. Also depends on temperature.
@falconryandwildlifevideos6200
@falconryandwildlifevideos6200 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the falcon was just playing, because he could hide in the sky to make a deadly stoop, but some of the attacks are really serious
@predragtomovic7228
@predragtomovic7228 2 жыл бұрын
i do not think he was playing at all...it is wild bird and needs to eat...here we have very skilled birds that are prey but not easy pickings
@Mdc7748
@Mdc7748 3 жыл бұрын
Savage beauty
@CuMulusDancerZ
@CuMulusDancerZ 4 жыл бұрын
How many Pigeons do you loose per year due to hawks and falcons? They seem very well naturally selected. Congratulations for birds of that level.
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
I don't lose many during the warm months because all the fanciers have their pigeons flying so there's a lot of prey. I lose some during the winter when most fanciers lock their pigeons and the local falcon pairs focus on my pigeons. That's when I film these attacks. I think the most I lost were about 30 from 70+ in a winter, but the smaller the flock the better for the pigeons. The best year was with 10 lost from 40.
@CuMulusDancerZ
@CuMulusDancerZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom Thank you very much for your fast reply. I keep high-flyers and racing pigeons. Since ten years I selected the high-flyers for falcon resistance with satisfying results. My racing homers on the other hand are by far not so resistant like your top birds and I loose many of them. Your homers seem to be more smaller like the average homers. They are more agile and have a faster reaction. Thanks again and good luck for the coming winter season.
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
​@@CuMulusDancerZ You are right, they are smaller than the average homers. Also I try to select for silky feathers that you can barely hear when they fly. I always liked them small instinctively I guess, so I try to only introduce small pigeons in the gene pool. These are generally marathon pigeons - they are also more calm which is important during attacks. They are also lightweight by genetics but I get them even more light by feeding, some of them being about 300+ grams while a locked pigeon also heavy by genetics can be 600+ grams. That is an enormous difference in the fight with the peregrine. I also feed them only after the flight, those 20-25 grams in the crop also matter. They are more like your high flyers, I estimate they are about 300 grams too (?) I can guess that by the fast change in direction in their style of flying.
@CuMulusDancerZ
@CuMulusDancerZ 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom Yes, you guessed absolutely right. 300 grams is the target weight for my high flyers. Males weigh a little more, females a little less. My role model are rock pigeons that have been subject to natural selection for centuries. If the pigeons are too light, they cannot build up speed. If they are too heavy, they are not agile enough. However, besides body weight, there are other parameters that I select: Short arm wings, very high reaction speed, silky plumage, very close kit flying, best vitality, etc. Health and nutrition are also extremely important. It is important that the overall package is right so that the pigeons emerge victorious in the race for life and death against the peregrine. In your case, you reached the same goal but with an other breed. That´s interresting. Racing pigeons weighing 300 grams are very light and comparable to feral pigeons. My racing pigeons (training weight with an empty crop) weigh an average of 490 grams. They are like a board in the air and cannot fly quick maneuvers.That's why I lose so many and you don't.
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 3 жыл бұрын
​@@CuMulusDancerZ Seeing this late. Yes, 300 g is not common for racers, that's what I measured in a few of the smallest females during mid winter when the falcon races were intense and I was feeding them very little. If they are also the silky feather type, they are so silent in flight that you see them flying from the floor to the top perch at the ceiling vertically and don't hear anything. Like a ghost. I love that, the falcon doesn't. If the weather is really bad and I can't release them for a week or more I reduce the food even more or they get fat and become easy prey. Wasting muscles and reflexes plus getting fat - recipe for disaster with a hungry slim striking fast falcon. While I try to breed smaller racers, feeding them less than they would normally eat also helps with the falcon. "Like a board in the air" - you described perfectly the racers I bought from an open field area with no mountains & forests and no predation. They are also very tall pigeons. I always liked pigeons with short legs, the rings/bands almost touching the belly, but some racers I see are like giraffes. I also noticed the shorty ones survive better. I was surprised after reading some research with falcons, it looks like the longer the legs the more chances the pigeons won't survive falcons. It's not like it gets them by the legs, but somehow the entire system is less agile. I love rock pigeons too, I'd love to see some documentaries about them or see them in real life but unfortunately they are not a popular species - I am really tired of the hundreds of documentaries they make about lions and crocodiles.
@anabar9637
@anabar9637 4 жыл бұрын
Super
@tomwallhead6950
@tomwallhead6950 4 жыл бұрын
Im lucky in england no falcons for me so far
@tempboston4439
@tempboston4439 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing pigeons! What kind of breeds are these pigeons?
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. They are racing pigeons selected in the area for generations for smaller body size and weight plus agility.
@tempboston4439
@tempboston4439 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom Smart Idea! The idea worked so well. Thanks for sharing!
@phembiebautista506
@phembiebautista506 3 жыл бұрын
sir use sometimes fireworks rocket, sure dis appear the hawks and falcons
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, could be a good idea.
@SPPRIGANAirsoft
@SPPRIGANAirsoft 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is good video i see☺️👏
@user-du2fo2zy6v
@user-du2fo2zy6v 3 жыл бұрын
Привет с Украины,у меня тоже почта,и это смотрю каждый день в небе.
@davesingian6446
@davesingian6446 4 жыл бұрын
Ur pigeons are faster than falcons😂
@pigeons5072
@pigeons5072 4 жыл бұрын
Hey. These are recent falcon attacks?
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, as you can see no green trees. They are some of the last attacks, finally got to post them. No falcon around lately.
@bobbyxwh
@bobbyxwh 4 жыл бұрын
After the attack, do the pigeons get sick?
@ahmetyay9818
@ahmetyay9818 3 жыл бұрын
It has been a great video, we are waiting for more 💪💪💪💪💪
@Ramos-Lidiane
@Ramos-Lidiane 4 жыл бұрын
Caraca como eu queria ter os pombos dele todos bom cara 👍
@aaronfeliciano6660
@aaronfeliciano6660 3 жыл бұрын
Are you selling one pair breeder or one pair youngsters boss? I'm aaron thanks.
@racingpigeonsbrieftauben8019
@racingpigeonsbrieftauben8019 3 жыл бұрын
Does falcon only attack in high sky and hawk only near the ground ? The hawks attack my pigeon only if the dont fly high.
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, usually they prefer to attack like you said, but when very hungry they might push their limits.
@PPALoft
@PPALoft 3 жыл бұрын
And that is pretty much the best training and selection you can get for your pigeons. Only the best flyers and the fittest get to pass on the genes to the new generation.
@herhangibiri5184
@herhangibiri5184 3 жыл бұрын
Falcon: meal is on the plate....... fuck my chance ı met birds of Usain Bolt's again.
@SL-lr8uc
@SL-lr8uc 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck Falcons, your Pigeons are strong and fast Respect👍
@davesingian6446
@davesingian6446 4 жыл бұрын
Why all ur pigeons are flying high? My pigeon only flies a little but higher than a second floor house
@alinconstantinvoica929
@alinconstantinvoica929 4 жыл бұрын
Super porumbei! De toamna pana in primavara cate pierderi ai? Cu aproximație.😁😁😁
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
Iarna trecuta 15 din vreo 70.
@alinconstantinvoica929
@alinconstantinvoica929 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom 👍👍👍
@alexdedu2802
@alexdedu2802 4 жыл бұрын
Salut, in ce zona locuiesti ?
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
Campulung, AG
@haroonhidayat
@haroonhidayat 4 жыл бұрын
what feed do u give to ur pigeons and how often u feed them
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
More depurative when not flying much or locked in the loft for days, more protein with heavy training. Also depends on temperature a lot, but about 25 grams per day.
@haroonhidayat
@haroonhidayat 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom can we use depurative daily?? like garlic or rosemary?? also for protien corn is good or should i use something else
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
@@haroonhidayat I mean depurative light food - barley, etc low protein. Corn is for carbs, protein is in peas and some fatty seeds.
@haroonhidayat
@haroonhidayat 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pigeonmaniacom well thank u so much i might switch to protien cuz i m done with breeding as my final pair is raising chicks and i m focusing more on keeping them fit for flying... much love 🤩
@vijaybhore729
@vijaybhore729 4 жыл бұрын
Hi bro♥️🕊️🕊️
@ZYDELLOFTANDTAEKWONDO
@ZYDELLOFTANDTAEKWONDO 4 жыл бұрын
new friends
@wendysaloper2012
@wendysaloper2012 4 жыл бұрын
Omg
@feniljudewin6594
@feniljudewin6594 4 жыл бұрын
Show your loft design in a video
@tickle296
@tickle296 3 жыл бұрын
Screw falcons. 😎 Shoot, shovel and shut up.
@akshaydawkhar9263
@akshaydawkhar9263 4 жыл бұрын
🐦
@frimran8219
@frimran8219 4 жыл бұрын
Who says pigeons run faster than falcons
@streetking6733
@streetking6733 4 жыл бұрын
Why don't you ever show your face can you show it please
@andreigaina5582
@andreigaina5582 4 жыл бұрын
pffff n-am cuvinte frate cum dracu de nu-i prinde?? vorbim de soim da-l naiba ce nu inteleg defapt e cum de mai ies afara cand zilnic ii ataca uliul ori soimul?? am colegi care spun ca nu mai vor sa le iasa porumbeii afara din voliera sunt sigur ca le dai cele mai bune medicamente ....si cu respiratia ....pffff care e secretul tau Andrei??? e uimitor ce fac porumbeii tai
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
Tocmai ca nu au niciun tratament in viata lor, doar vaccinul obligatoriu de paramixo. Pe cei cu probleme ii trateaza soimul. Porumbeii nu ies cand au probleme sau sunt prea grasi sau cu gusa plina.
@Valentin_Tulbita
@Valentin_Tulbita 4 жыл бұрын
Sau imultit rau șoimi uli zilnic ataca vom avea mari probleme pe viitor dacă nu se va lua măsuri cu ei !
@Pigeonmaniacom
@Pigeonmaniacom 4 жыл бұрын
Sunt atacuri din iarna, la mine nu a mai aparut soimul de vreo 2 luni. Ai probleme cu uliul la bloc? Pentru soim intr-adevar e ideala inaltimea de pe bloc.
@Valentin_Tulbita
@Valentin_Tulbita 4 жыл бұрын
Pe mine m-au distrus șoimi zilnic am atacuri eu după sezonul cu maturi ii mai las afara maxim o saptamana și le mai dau drumu pe 20 30 Martie, și atunci e imposibil sa nu îmi ia 1 2 maturi pui la fel le dau drumu târziu și nu ii las afara decât odată pe zi și nu ii las ne supravegheați ii chem imediat după ce își fac zborul deja pana acum am 3 luați !
@Ramos-Lidiane
@Ramos-Lidiane 4 жыл бұрын
Caraca como eu queria ter os pombos dele todos bom cara 👍
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