Falconry: Peales vs Anatum Peregrines

[@TheUltraBeast1]

Nice, large falcons are the reason I'm getting into falconry. My sponsor has had peregrines for a long time I'll ask him what he thinks about the differences in subspecies!

[@barnabas111]

Great info. An Anatum is a bucket list bird. How about a video on Saker vs. Goshawk for a level flight waterfowl and upland game hunting?

[@Peregrinus8375]

Great video Ben! Do you have any footage/photos of a Peales Peregrine on a Canada Goose?

[@RaptorGirlkathy]

Wow, those young, black Peales look really cool! I wish I could have a Anatum, though. lol. Thanks for your knowledge & comparison insights! 😊

[@georgeblanco436]

The two races of the Barbary Falcon, pelegrinoides and babylonicus, are often regarded as subspecies of F. peregrinus (Brown and Amadon 1968, Stresemann and Amadon 1979, Brown et al. 1982, del Hoyo et al. 1994), but many recent authors have followed Vaurie (1961), who treated them as a separate species. Birds breeding on the Canary Islands show haplotypes of both F. p. pelegrinoides and F. peregrinus brookei, according to a preliminary study carried out on Fuerteventura Island (Amengual et al. 1996). Wink et al. (2000) also found low genetic variation (

[@sallynolan5928]

Absolutely fabulous to watch

[@BeneathTheGold]

Very interesting Ben. As always.

[@johngoodell2775]

One caveat: As Clayton White explained - pretty much all the phenotypic variation seen across all subspecies, are also found within a single subspecies just varying frequency.

[@someguy2637]

Ben, First let me say that I really enjoy your videos. Thank you for taking the time to post these. I realize that they take a tremendous amount of your time and effort in collecting and editing footage. Time you could be out flying your birds. My question is what subspecies of eastern falcon is currently declared extinct? Is that both in the wild and captivity? I live here in the eastern U.S. and there seems to be some debate on this. Best Regards, Paul M.

[@keerthivasannambiraju955]

It is an anatum, it is not extinct

[@AZWildAdventures]

I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on the cassini, my pallid male seems to be coming along great. But he's my first big falcon so I don't have much to compare him to.

[@Mikheno]

Ben, would like to see something on the Black Shaheen (Falco peregrinus peregrinator). I've see a Red Naped Shaheen in action and they are impressive. The old British falconers in Indian spoke highly of the Black Shaheen but you don't hear of anyone in the states working with them.

[@andreagentile6872]

Once again a great video! I have a question: many falconers told me that sakers are more suitable than preregrines for lure work, because they are more reliable, consistent and don't fly that high. Do you agree? Do you find that some specific falcons are more suitable than others for lure work? Thank you

[@tizonchejo1388]

Soy español y mi mejor peregrino era una mezcla al 50% de brokei y de pealei .Lo tuve durante diez años, .,hasta el 30 de noviembre del 2023,en que murió repentinamente .Era un pájaro tan inteligente que en los últimos años me tenía asombrado, me parecía que me entendía mejor que yo a él. Creo que ni los perros llegan a tener una conexión tan fuerte. Le dedicaba a las palomas torcaces y mi único trabajo era llevarlo al cazadero, que era un paso de ellas para ir a los comederos. Le soltaba, subía, se iba en las cuatro direcciones si alejarse demasiado hasta que las veía, picaba, las tocaba o no, las perseguía un rato y cuando consideraba que ya había hecho lo que quería regresaba. Yo le tiraba el señuelo al aire, lo cogía y se posaba a unos metros, de 10 a 50 .Yo lo recogía y le daba de comer en el puño. No bajaba a por las palomas ni siquiera cuando las derribaba, solo revoloteaba un poco alrededor de donde habían caído. Mi única función era contemplarlo.

[@benwoodrufffalconry]

Sounds like an amazing bird! What a joy to fly a bird like that!

[@tanyamccarlson4136]

I have an older Peale's peregrine

[@Apostatizer]

Imagine a hybrid of a Black Shaheen and a Peale

[@Brezk-j6o]

The wind cools it down so in Utah in the winter dead winter is like to conduct a speed test with a pergrine peals of inprinted and get the 320mph.

[@Geektarts]

Interesting as always, do you have a contact email? I have a particular question that I’m hoping you could help me with.

[@abdushaheen4499]

It's beautiful. 2022 It's like this falcon sold in Libya for $1000000.

[@tanyamccarlson4136]

I sent u a DM about a bird………

[@Brezk-j6o]

Think what you think and go with what you know.

[@JERFALCON]

Great video. Can you send a link to your sticky footed video. In my experience Anatum’s are definitely more puppy dog like. Very tame, almost too tame. Even chamber birds can become imprint like, often bonding so much with the falconer they start to scream if not hunted constantly. Where as like you said the Peales is much bigger and can be more aggressive. Especially towards the falconer. It’s been said that if you’re a Goshawker a Peales is almost as crazy as a goshawk. Where as an Anatum is more like a red tail as far as tameness. Both are worthy falconry birds. But the Peales takes a while longer to mature and really get going. Where the Anatum has more migratory pressure so they must mature quickly and so it’s much easier to be successful hunting them right off the bat. Same with Cassini, Fijian, or Macropus. Not a lot of migratory pressure so they mature very slowly. My Peales is nearing the end of the second season and is still in play mode. But that’s my fault 😂

[@benwoodrufffalconry]

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[@benwoodrufffalconry]

I had never thought of it in terms of migratory behavior being such a major behavior influencer. But you are so right! That makes complete sense!!!

[@jacygreen9520]

Some one took a duck with a kestrel pergrine hybrid They get muduim sized.

[@Brezk-j6o]

I had peals pergrine once it wasnt socilised to be trained sat on block for 4 months I fed it nothing but quail that ordered from rodent pro in dry ice week old quil a red tail got him and they red followed me around for a good month.

[@Brezk-j6o]

I spent alout times in Utah watching raptors it's my favright pass time and prarie falcons are always going some where some you can find them perched and often they land pumping there wings and fly off you see them for few seconds and gone ok was looking for juvnile red tail and pergrine falcon did that like prarie falcon on the move exsactly the same now was it feeling a gap or slot of prarie and it's catching kangaroo rats prarie dogs jack rabbits ok from distance you think it was prarie from it's going some where same vibe my question to pergrine behave and live exsactly like a prarie falcon in ereas that they both live i seen pergrine and prarie in the same era often on post looking at ducks in pound it's pergrine it's checking out where hang out and fly bird unsuccessful early stages I calling a red tail crance and two prarie falcon flew in like fighter jets in winter and they say oplomados hang as pairs was they doing that they flew in buzzed in dead winter calling of red tail beatuful winter day I tell anyone I just go home ok wonder if pergrine feel a prarie slot and behave very similar I never seen hit a jack rabbits or anything just going some where high strung like a prarie but it was indeed a pergrine do pergrine not always hunt things naturally that are edible to humans ducks pheasant grouse ok these food that is practice for the dinner table and is attempt made to lure them or keep them only connected to dinner table worthy food and seeing pergrine on a rodent path like vibe of prarie is that a dandrouse secret.

[@Brezk-j6o]

And both types have a favright color and some things in life are strange

[@Brezk-j6o]

The key to being the master of peals is American kestrel not possable with out kestrel whitch dosnt applie to anatum at all.

[@Brezk-j6o]

That peregrine in Utah deplayed the same behavior as prairie Falcon like always going some where from hunting rodents.

[@Brezk-j6o]

I'll believe when I see it golden eagle can dive 200 I think the ferrginouse hawk is incompleat classed and the speed and consersey is becuse of third eagle and hawk eagle speed exceeds peregrine is why.

[@Brezk-j6o]

These type of people talerate my presence and these type don't at all and they don't like eachother

[@Brezk-j6o]

The blue in peregrine is really bear lake when you aprouch bear from distance it glows blue flat erea alout sky.ans you can from far a very beatiful thats way im hated in tennesee be careful its unforgivable to foren canadain defence

[@Brezk-j6o]

What there saying is being a master falconer a future licenced and building don't haft to go down and leaders removed and new system is needed becuse freedom don't work

[@Brezk-j6o]

Peals and anotume dont get along becuse of antume peals are more ageessive but not as tertoral.

[@Brezk-j6o]

Yes i own peals sperm master p to make hudreds of peryan falcons.

[@Brezk-j6o]

The sooty wings are long for it body not as fast if you ever after a stoop touch the birds feathers there hot after stoop alowed to cool of on kill not from physical strain by time the air from the body reaches the wings tips the air is to cold to generat 240 mph same with gyr terminal volosity air restence reach the weight of the object later in heavyer bird but heat friction isn't generated its way bullets are so fast there red hot very small and melted in the air like hot rocks ok is why sooty isnt as fast as pergrine becuse of heat for vortex.heat is why 200 mph yoyr can catch on fire.

[@Brezk-j6o]

Over kill.

[@Brezk-j6o]

Color blind cow boy im proud to be an ametican 8m the white stripe if you brake it down bone thugs.