Falklands Conflict in the Air | How British Harriers beat the odds

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2 жыл бұрын

When the Falklands Conflict began Argentina seemingly had a massive advantage in the skies. They had over 100 aircraft of varying types. Some could operate from the Argentinian mainland and others could operate from airstrips on the Falklands themselves. Meanwhile, the British Task Force initially had only 20 Sea Harriers which could fit on its two aircraft carriers, HMS Hermes and HMS Invincible. It was up to them to protect the Task Force at sea as well as the troops on the ground, but to many that seemed like an impossible task.
In this 3rd episode of our Falklands series IWM Curator Paris Agar examines the conflict in the air. Just how big was the Argentinian advantage? How did each side change their strategy? And how did British pilots beat the odds and take control of the skies? To answer those questions and more Agar takes an in-depth look at the aircraft of the Falklands Conflict including the Vulcan, Pucará, Wessex and Harrier.
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@ImperialWarMuseums
@ImperialWarMuseums 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Please remember to be polite in the comments. Any comments that we consider to be offensive or aggressive will be removed.
@jona.scholt4362
@jona.scholt4362 2 жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this since the last video; now I know what I'll watch on my lunch break!
@largain
@largain 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen the footage at 11:20 before, described as a missile from a harrier. Is it actually a SAM from a ship?
@tubelitrax
@tubelitrax 2 жыл бұрын
Formidable reports!
@originalkk882
@originalkk882 2 жыл бұрын
@@largain At 11:20 I believe the view is from a Sea Cat launcher. Though whether that is what fired the missile is another question. They also cut to a Sea Wolf launcher, but none of the Type 22 frigates so equipped would have been in San Carlos at the time.
@zaeedaziz2213
@zaeedaziz2213 2 жыл бұрын
there is no such thing as fukland. its malvinas.
@systemdaemon2185
@systemdaemon2185 2 жыл бұрын
As an Argentine I would love to be able to visit your museum sometime, and the perspective you offer was also very valuable to me. I was two years old at the time. I am sorry for the British and Argentine losses, needless bloodshed.
@timstoker
@timstoker 2 жыл бұрын
Well said sir. it was a pointless war and as usual too many young lives were sadly lost, on both sides.
@Ziporis
@Ziporis 2 жыл бұрын
Just power hungry people wanting more power using the common man and woman as cannon fodder, us Brits aren't your enemy and vice versa, only the "leaders", may the fallen Argentine soldiers rest in peace and our boys or course
@garethonthetube
@garethonthetube 2 жыл бұрын
It's an excellent museum, and if you visit during spring/summer you may well see some vintage aircraft flying too. Allow a full day, it's huge!
@Saxondog
@Saxondog Жыл бұрын
Spot on comment my friend .. Governments are responsible for wars not the ordinary people. The average Russian doesn't want this war in Ukraine..like most of us. Stay safe my friend.
@Ziporis
@Ziporis Жыл бұрын
@@ellepant Russia are committing war crimes and it's vile and has to be stopped at all costs
@Xyzabc998
@Xyzabc998 2 жыл бұрын
Blackbuck was such a British operation. Cobbled together against the odds and far beyond what was expected to be possible. The bravery of the Argentinian pilots was never in doubt but outclassed.
@trident6547
@trident6547 2 жыл бұрын
And still they managed to sink 6 british ships and damage about 14 more of the task force sent to the islands.
@heybabycometobutthead
@heybabycometobutthead 2 жыл бұрын
@@trident6547 let the Argentine air force try and capture the isle of wight, then we'll compare tactics.
@Foxtrop13
@Foxtrop13 2 жыл бұрын
the blackbuck operation only hit one bomb on the runaway, and destroyed 1 short range radar, the airfield was repaired and the radar replaced, the harriers did more damages days prior to the operation, hitting the runaway with cluster bombs
@paulmcdonough1093
@paulmcdonough1093 2 жыл бұрын
if argies had same amount of planes the argentine would have not had the guts fact
@JK-wz7uj
@JK-wz7uj 2 жыл бұрын
@@Foxtrop13 It wasn't about the number of bombs, it was about sending a message.
@stevethwaites3497
@stevethwaites3497 Жыл бұрын
The Harrier was the spitfire of the 80s, fantastic aircraft. 👏
@chrisgs8727
@chrisgs8727 2 ай бұрын
The most experienced brtish pilot of all times, said that if uk fought with phantoms and bucaneers they could be much more successful.
@richardeames808
@richardeames808 9 күн бұрын
@@chrisgs8727 True. Eric "Winkle" Brown was instrumental in the Fleet Air Arm getting Phantoms when he was Deputy Director of Air Warfare at the Admiralty. HMS Ark Royal was decommissioned before the Falklands war, so no Phantoms,. He said that Phantoms could have intercepted Argentinian aircraft on their outbound journey before they got in range of the Falklands
@kennethscott4190
@kennethscott4190 23 сағат бұрын
The Harrier was rubbish. Limited range and payload. Cost lives and ships because it could not gain air superiority. Galahad, Tristram, Antelope,Sheffield, Atlantic conveyor,F4 just a few if the ships lost because it could not do the job.
@reggierico
@reggierico 2 жыл бұрын
I've just recently returned from holiday in Argentina and I was stationed, temporarily, in the UK during the 90's. Both countries are great, with wonderful citizens and beautiful countryside. It's sad that this conflict took place. War is horrible and it is the politicians that bear the most responsibility for things like this happening. But, while I was in Buenos Aires, I met a young British man. He also had nothing but good to say about the friendly nature and wonderful country of Argentina. Cheers!
@JuanSebastianRichard
@JuanSebastianRichard Жыл бұрын
It was indeed, a desperate move from the military dictatorship Argentina had been suffering for over a decade by the time. They tried to refuel their trust with a needless war. For over a century, British-Argentininan realationship had been nothing but great. The UK built half the country (trains, railroads, ports, factories, etc) and back in the WWs they traded with Argentina for supplies. There were far better ways to deal with the Falkland/Malvinas issue, and not a single citizen ever crossed it's mind the idea of going to war with the UK until that point. A sincere and historical good relationship between two countries trashed by a few already hated people.
@TheSniperGTO
@TheSniperGTO Жыл бұрын
Did you see the episode of Top Gear where they went to Argentina. I’m not sure I’d say they are all friendly, level headed people.
@thisismagacountry1318
@thisismagacountry1318 Жыл бұрын
Did you share any tea with the retired Nazis?
@reggierico
@reggierico Жыл бұрын
@@thisismagacountry1318 No, I did not. I would imagine most of those guys are long since passed away. It's been nearly 80 years?
@RodFleming-World
@RodFleming-World Жыл бұрын
We had an Argie sub in our newsroom in the later 80s. Had one of the driest senses of humour. He actually wrote and produced a staff newsletter. Its name? The Exocet.
@joegordon5117
@joegordon5117 2 жыл бұрын
Still remember BBC's Brian Hanrahan reporting from one of the carriers on the Harriers going on a raid, "I'm not allowed to say how many planes joined the raid, but I counted them all out, and I counted them all back." Quite a few still doubted the Harriers, thinking them more of an airshow novelty, their performance in the Falklands proved the worthiness of the aircraft and pilots beyond any doubt, all the more remarkable considering this was not the sort of deployment any of them had ever been designed for, but they did it anyway, in the best traditions of the Senior Service.
@vinnyganzano1930
@vinnyganzano1930 2 жыл бұрын
Put it this way. The USMC used the Harrier for years, the US military don't buy inferior aircraft.
@CannedCoochie
@CannedCoochie 2 жыл бұрын
@@vinnyganzano1930 PFFFFFFFFFT
@deeacosta2734
@deeacosta2734 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone loves BBC
@relwalretep
@relwalretep 2 жыл бұрын
Hanrahan's correspondence was quite the turning point of long distance, remote, near real-time journalism. Further, the reporting itself was of excellent quality - modest, unassuming, and also deeply informative.
@jamesyeh364
@jamesyeh364 2 жыл бұрын
@@vinnyganzano1930 Heck, the USMC bought up all of the UK's Harriers when they were retired.
@SeaHusker54
@SeaHusker54 2 жыл бұрын
As an American I have always been fascinated by the Falklands War. This series has been one of the most in depth analysis covering the war. Thank you for making such a brilliant series yet again!
@djdvhzjbsn
@djdvhzjbsn 2 жыл бұрын
What is wrong in this video is that it says that the Argentines had the air advantage. when it is the opposite since Argentina had many worse planes
@williammorley2401
@williammorley2401 2 жыл бұрын
@@djdvhzjbsn , Argentina had air advantage when you consider that they had almost 200 aircraft, compared to the UK's 40. Those Super Etendard, Skyhawks, and dagger aircraft were pretty good, when you consider that they were flying with exocet missiles!.
@sinergiamdp
@sinergiamdp 2 жыл бұрын
​@@williammorley2401 First of all; the real argentine fighters were a dozen of Mirage III's with outdated Magic-I; the rest were bombers and ground attack airplanes; none of them could be considered as a threat for the british fighters, so you cannot use the global number as a parameter to compare the real airpower to dispute the air superiority over the islands. And the Super Etendard were not fighters but naval attack airplanes; you cannot shot down a Harrier with an Exocet missile neither. Stop oversizing the argentine capabilities and numbers just to make them look overwhelming and frightening. Britain had american satellite information, chilean radar's early warning, better AA missiles, anti-radar missiles and everything they could ask for from their NATO allies. Ignoring that is very convenient when you try to depict an epic like the medieval times ones; the mighty and numerous enemies threatening the few but brave heroes of our story... yeah... right.
@trentweston8306
@trentweston8306 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate I've got a link for you to the most in depth and first hand documentary on the Falklands. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZmtfaiaZd6taM0
@trentweston8306
@trentweston8306 2 жыл бұрын
It's a fascinating bit of modern history. kzbin.info/aero/PLx2GRxi-rDiFhLTCxG66qNcrGlVc0XGQc
@JH-ck1nr
@JH-ck1nr 11 ай бұрын
May the fallen on both sides rest in peace.
@melliemooschannel3002
@melliemooschannel3002 Жыл бұрын
A really good short documentary. I was 12 at the time of the conflict and this absolutely had a bearing on my life. I joined the R.A.F. at the age of 20 and at 23 was on detachment on the HMS Ark Royal during the Yugoslavia conflict. To stand on the top decks and watch the Harriers on their sorties was a childhood dream, we can't all realise these can we. Respect to all of the casualties of that war, something you don't think about so much aged 12 and watching your Country go to war 8000 miles from home, in that I include all of the surviving troops who made it home on both sides.
@lucrecia152
@lucrecia152 7 ай бұрын
14.000 millas.
@andyrowe8652
@andyrowe8652 7 ай бұрын
@@lucrecia152 8064 UK to Falklands to be a little more precise
@user-og8zx2fe4n
@user-og8zx2fe4n 2 жыл бұрын
Outnumbered, thousands of miles away from homeland, all odds against them, yet they came out victorious! Respect from greece!
@richardvernon317
@richardvernon317 2 жыл бұрын
When it came to Radar equipped fighters with All Aspect missile capability, the Fleet Air Arm started the conflict at a 20 v 17 aircraft advantage!!! Every other Argentinian aircraft was a target!!!
@user-og8zx2fe4n
@user-og8zx2fe4n 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardvernon317 i know uk had the tech advantage but still...
@StevenSmith-mk5fg
@StevenSmith-mk5fg 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardvernon317 The UK didn't have all aspect missile capability during that conflict. The Harriers only carried WVR missiles (heat seeking Sidewinders). They did not carry BVRAAM (radar guided beyond visual range missiles).
@richardvernon317
@richardvernon317 2 жыл бұрын
​@@StevenSmith-mk5fg WRONG!!!! AIM-9L was an all aspect missile. All Sea Harrier missile kills in that war were with AIM-9L. There was at least one attempt at a head on shot with it by a Sea Harrier in the Conflict on 1st May by Lt Steve Thomas of 801 NAS. The Sidewinder Failed to lock on because the setting sun was behind the target (A Mirage IIIEA). He managed to get behind the Mirage and damage it with a stern missile shot, after which the Mirage pilot diverted to Stanley Airfield and was shot down by his own AAA. The Mirage IIIEA could carry a Radar guided AAM, The Matra R530, but that weapon was next to useless in fighter combat.
@StevenSmith-mk5fg
@StevenSmith-mk5fg 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardvernon317 AIM-9L was not both a short range infa-red guided and long range radar guided missile. There is no such missile even to this day. The AIM-9L is a short range heat seeking missile. The Harrier had no BVRAAM capability during that conflict
@M0rmagil
@M0rmagil 2 жыл бұрын
The efforts made to get the 2 Vulcans to reach Port Stanley were damn near Herculean. Difficult to overstate how impressive that mission was.
@biko331966
@biko331966 2 жыл бұрын
But unfortunately ofr UK didnt make any difference as the airfield was operative the entire actions.
@bigtony4829
@bigtony4829 Жыл бұрын
@@biko331966 I think it intended purpose was to send a message to the argies we can drop a nuke anywhere in the world if we wish ..you might want to think about a surrender
@markg4459
@markg4459 Жыл бұрын
As I understand it the Brits had begun to retire the Vulcan bomber & had no replacement bomber for the Falkland conflict. They had to scramble to ensure combat ready (& refillable) aircraft were available.
@tbrowniscool
@tbrowniscool Жыл бұрын
@@bigtony4829 Yeah that was the point of it. No way the Argentinian commanders thought they would be bombed, and when they were I bet it completely changed the way they planned. Either way it worked
@Raj-nh3fc
@Raj-nh3fc Жыл бұрын
Impressive yes but useful? No! Totally worthless exercise.
@ralphrepo
@ralphrepo Жыл бұрын
The long range bombing of the Stanley airfield was the equivalent of Doolittle's B25 Tokyo raid; tactically insignificant but politically and emotionally a huge blow for Argentina and a morale boost for Britain.
@mh53j
@mh53j Жыл бұрын
Led to many Mirages being reassigned to Buenos Aires for air defense; junta realized the city could be hit by Vulcan raids, though I don't think that was seriously considered by the British.
@nigelpilgrim4232
@nigelpilgrim4232 Жыл бұрын
The bombing raid although did slightly damage the airport runway it was enough for the Argentine to move their aircraft back the mainland & base them there not in the Falklands islands airport of Port-stanley !! With just the one Vulcan - bomber as the 2nd had to turn back after take off as it had problems.!! The mission was a success militarily & physiological reasons as it gave the Argentine the thought that the British could bomb the main land .. 👌
@Jeremiah59
@Jeremiah59 9 ай бұрын
The Ukraine war is also showing the importance of psychological warfare and morale. The loss of the leopards has been a significant boost to the Russians it's probably why they are witholding the challengers.
@johnbull1568
@johnbull1568 8 ай бұрын
@@Jeremiah59 Different story in Ukraine. Russian will never lose that war because they can't afford to. The West can thrown in all the tanks they have, but Russia will either repel them or resort to nukes.
@LordErnesto2008
@LordErnesto2008 6 ай бұрын
@@nigelpilgrim4232 The runway at that airport did not have the necessary length for A4 or Mirage to operate there, only the Pucará.
@mothmagic1
@mothmagic1 6 ай бұрын
I think there may well have been a certain amount of complacency on the part of Argentina. They probably couldn't believe we seriously intended to take them on with Harriers.
@ElParteDiscotecas
@ElParteDiscotecas 2 ай бұрын
Hello! Just trying to give some insight from the Argentine side. Basically we were taught that yes, as the 80s were a time of great turmoil (the whole US vs URSS, the problems that Thatcher faced, etc.) the ruling dictatorship in Argentina didn't really believe that the British forces would make the effort to try and recover the Falklands. That would have meant a huge boost in popularity for the dictators (supposedly) but as we know, that wasn't the case. There also was some distrust between the 3 branches of the forces and it is said that the Argentine Air Force was the last one to be noticed of the effort to retake the Falklands so it makes it all the more impressive the things they were able to accomplish. Hope this helps!
@ronaldmelia1172
@ronaldmelia1172 2 жыл бұрын
I was a Radar operator on board HMS Bristol. We took up the position vacated by HMS Sheffield. I can remember the punishing flight schedule of the Harriers, particular the CAP . Whilst there is no denying that the Harrier did well, however, if I had to be the flagship officer in command then I would have preferred the Phantom F4 fighters and a squadron of jags. Not having a proper aircraft carrier was a sin.
@KB4QAA
@KB4QAA 2 жыл бұрын
RM: The Harrier 'Rose to the occasion" in a role it should never have been placed. A carrier with AEW would have saved ships and lives. Such a shame.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 2 жыл бұрын
There was no AEW…and no CIWS, either. It was sad and a bit tragic. The Sea Harrier is still one of my favorite planes, though!
@silvesby
@silvesby 2 жыл бұрын
One of my family members met an aussie who served on Bristol. I'm not sure where they met, it was long ago, but he gifted a sailor's cap with the ship's name that we still have somewhere around. Interesting to see a view from someone who served on her
@will2000ism
@will2000ism 2 жыл бұрын
That affected Britain then and when they had the chance to do a full sized carrier with the 2 latest ones didn't.
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ron. There's a few lines in Shakespeare's "Henry V" about how gentlemen now abed in England will hold their manhood cheap, because they weren't at the battle. That's me. I was the right age but not in the forces. I wish I'd been there. The risks of death, amputation, burning or drowning would be a throw of the dice. You did good work, sir, and I'm jealous.
@noworriesnoproblems6382
@noworriesnoproblems6382 2 жыл бұрын
me and my pals watched when the Sheffield was struck. I ll never forget the sick feeling in my stomach as she was nearly broken in half. It brings tears to my eyea even now.
@JamesNeave1978
@JamesNeave1978 2 жыл бұрын
We learnt so much from the Falklands, as always written in blood. Everybody knows 'CIWS' but that's just a fallback, you don't rely on it. The big lesson was Radar Is Life. Those crappy old Type 965/6 radars are what got Sheffield, Coventry killed and Glasgow put out the war. Secondary was the mechanical and electronic unreliability but today didn't matter of you can't see the enemy. Once the two batch 2 or 3 T42s turned up with, Dr, 1022 was it? Or 966. I forget. Then sea Dart was swatting stuff good. And but the time we got to the gulf war sea Dart, based on 1950s technology, shot down missiles. Something it was neither designed or supposed to be able to do. And all because Gloucester had advanced 3D radar with MTI. And multiple redundant fire mains And multiple redundant electric distribution systems.
@JamesNeave1978
@JamesNeave1978 2 жыл бұрын
My dad left Coventry weeks before this for his shore stint. He lost some friends. I just barely remember Coventry and it being on TV, I was 4 or 5 or something.
@hantykje3005
@hantykje3005 2 жыл бұрын
@@JamesNeave1978 Awacs was missing in the war too.
@JamesNeave1978
@JamesNeave1978 2 жыл бұрын
@@hantykje3005 It seems to be lack of procedure as well? Like, who's in charge. The system seems to faildeadly instead of failsafe. In this case, the incoming attackers were detected and then promptly ignored and forgotten about. This is faildeadly. The entire fleet should have been kicked into high gear, launch ready fighters if they were available, recon by fire to get them to blink. Turn toward, launch chaff etc. That's failsafe. Yeah they might still get you but for god's sake don't fall asleep at the wheel like they did
@MichaelKng-fk5jk
@MichaelKng-fk5jk 2 жыл бұрын
@@hantykje3005 UK used what it had, the Nimrod, the largest ever fighter as it was armed with sidewinders. Nimrod performed well, though flying from Ascension. US refused to give UK AWACs
@jordanbeech12
@jordanbeech12 9 ай бұрын
Once again out numbered but won. History doesn't lie. Never under estimate us Brits
@maxostermeier4416
@maxostermeier4416 3 күн бұрын
Remember only USA keeps you running.
@anubis20049999
@anubis20049999 7 ай бұрын
Is it weird to love old wars. Like not for the death but the storyline and details of every move made on each side, and the events that prevent new wars from starting and peace talks.
@TripDownBritishTown
@TripDownBritishTown 3 ай бұрын
Not weird. Just love for history
@johndastoli8572
@johndastoli8572 2 жыл бұрын
As a 9 year old boy in the US, this was the first war I remember following. Eleven years later and was a US Marine Lance Corporal training with the RM Commandos. By that time many of the RM corporals, sergeants, and color sergeants that trained me were veterans of the "yomp" to Port Stanley. I learned a good deal from them. The more I study the Falklands conflict the more I become impressed with what an impressive feat of arms and daring this operation was. It remains an important case study for those of us who are looking at the future of naval campaigns in the littoral operating environment. It is extremely relevant to current US concepts of expeditionary advanced base operations. (EABO). If the Argentines had the engineering capability to repair the Port Stanley Airfield, that could have been a game changer. That airfield was single point of failure for Argentine airpower. They failed to protect it and that probably lost them the war.
@colderwar
@colderwar 2 жыл бұрын
The Port Stanley runway was too short for fast jets, the Argentines were trying to extend it when the Black Buck raid stuffed that idea up for them. Even if Black Buck had failed it's a matter of debate as to whether they could have gotten the runway operational, and also transferred their jets and support equipment over to it safely before the matter was decided. There were some Argentine air force jet trainers available initially, with a very basic combat fit - but there wasn't the infrastructure needed to keep them operational, I think they only flew one sortie and then sat the rest of the war out.
@johndastoli8572
@johndastoli8572 2 жыл бұрын
@@colderwar do you know if the Argentines attempted any battle damage repair of the airfield after the airstrikes?
@Foxtrop13
@Foxtrop13 2 жыл бұрын
@@colderwar thats BS there was never the intention to put jets on Stanley, the logistic for the mirage and skyhawks were too big, if someone should take the credit were the submarine fleet of the royal navy, the airfield operated c130 until the last day of the war
@jetpigeon8758
@jetpigeon8758 2 жыл бұрын
Although the Royal Navy did indeed suffer some loses, many years later information was released from the Ministry of Defence, that should it look likely that the British forces would lose the war in the Falklands, there was a signed document with plans to attack Buenos Aires with a nuclear device. Fortunately this was not required. In Britain government documents are not allowed to be released to the public/press until a certain number of years have passed, I think it is 25 or 30 years, and this information was brought to light.
@colderwar
@colderwar 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndastoli8572 They definitely filled the crater in, but I don't know if you could call it a real repair. It had to be fixed properly by the Royal Engineers shortly after the war ended. It wasn't enough to completely stop the Argentine C-130 logistics flights, but it made them a lot more dangerous. The Harriers were also toss bombing the airfield from a point outside the range of the defensive AA, it wasn't all that accurate, but it would have served to make any repairs more awkward.
@davidanderson4091
@davidanderson4091 2 жыл бұрын
The A4 Skyhawk was one of the most seriously underestimated ground attack fast jets in the history of air combat.
@jamesjross
@jamesjross 2 жыл бұрын
I love how we can praise the aircraft and the men who flew them despite being an adversary.
@johnkidd1226
@johnkidd1226 Жыл бұрын
The skyhawk was the favorite of the small units penetrating NVA areas in Vietnam for cover as well. Slow speed but big bomb load and most time over target capability.
@iamasmurf1122
@iamasmurf1122 Жыл бұрын
skyhawk was one of the only jets of its size capable of carrying nuclear bombs
@RodFleming-World
@RodFleming-World Жыл бұрын
The A4 Skyhawk was brilliantly featured in 'Top Gun'.
@19580822
@19580822 Жыл бұрын
Yes it was designed as a light ground-attack aircraft, but it was as fast and maneuverable as the British Sea Harriers. If configured as a fighter, it would have made a dangerous opponent. As it happened however, they were laden with bombs and flown to the very edge of their range. They had no A-A missiles or radar, and as a result they were savaged by the Sea Harriers.
@theharper1
@theharper1 2 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly recommend the book Vulcan 607 which describes the Vulcan attack in detail. The mission was incredibly complex and they were extremely lucky to get there and back. I mentioned the book to a colleague who was ex-navy, and it turned out that he was mentioned in the book. He flew a helicopter during the conflict.
@chrisgs8727
@chrisgs8727 Жыл бұрын
Useless, a gr3 with a laser bomb could do much better... 40 bombs and only ONE hit on the side... C130 hercules and the other planes operated without problems until the last day of the war
@raymondcollier3140
@raymondcollier3140 Жыл бұрын
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@501sqn3
@501sqn3 10 ай бұрын
....Lucky!!!... Extremely Lucky!!. Bloody cheek 😒
@Buster_Piles
@Buster_Piles 7 ай бұрын
Black Buck is one of the proudest moments of British military aviation history. The odds against success were huge & success was down to sheer grit, bravery & professionalism on the part of the RAF personnel taking part, they are heroes.
@geoffbentley8774
@geoffbentley8774 4 ай бұрын
I've got the book.
@guyavni3206
@guyavni3206 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this Falkland video series. I have heard many times about this war but in fact, knew very little about it.
@AlfFieldArt
@AlfFieldArt 2 жыл бұрын
I had the honour of meeting a Falkland helicopter veteran. He crashed, and was trapped in his aircraft. A very brave man. I don't think he ever received the care he needed afterwards.
@thelmaviaduct
@thelmaviaduct 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds just like the MoD that.....
@sleeping4cat
@sleeping4cat 2 жыл бұрын
That's actually sad reality! England doesn't really care about you much after you retire from Military expect if you're a high ranking individual! My Great Grandfather and almost entire bloodline served for English Empire but after WWI and WWII my family never again pursued the Military again!
@stewartwebb5699
@stewartwebb5699 2 жыл бұрын
Typical. Help For Heroes shoud not exist. Pay your men government
@SpookyFox1000
@SpookyFox1000 2 жыл бұрын
Not bothered !
@davidb6403
@davidb6403 2 жыл бұрын
@@stewartwebb5699 and yet many veterans vote for these politicians believing the usual nationalistic dogma
@stanielsoncoochiesmellehsm6114
@stanielsoncoochiesmellehsm6114 2 жыл бұрын
We will always have a special place in our hearts for the people of Chile 🇨🇱 ♥️ 🇬🇧
@EG-cs1wl
@EG-cs1wl 2 жыл бұрын
Chileans feel the same way about the british ;) Greetings from Chile
@elfraca_06897
@elfraca_06897 2 жыл бұрын
And then chilean people ask why they are the most hated latin-american country.......
@EG-cs1wl
@EG-cs1wl 2 жыл бұрын
@@elfraca_06897 nope, nobody really cares what argentinians think about us in here. Latin American? Since when did argentinians stared paying attention to the region? If I remember correctly you guys always though of yourselves as europeans and not part of this continent or it's peoples... Is funny how your nation only cares about latin America when the Falklands becomes an issue in a topic .
@elfraca_06897
@elfraca_06897 2 жыл бұрын
@@EG-cs1wl its not argentina, peru, bolivia, brasil, literally most of south america hates chile because they think they are the most european country..... the only part of argentina that starts saying that europe is superior is porteños (people who live in C.A.B.A) and..... ¿¿¿We dont care about other regions??? BRO WE LITERALLY MADE A REVOLUTION TO MAKE YOU INDEPENDENT, YOU SHOULD BE PART OF SPAIN IF IT WASNT BECAUSE US, And not only chile, Peru too, remember that YOUR country started a war against peru and bolivia, and the way you guys made for us is: Nothing
@littleshep5502
@littleshep5502 2 жыл бұрын
@@EG-cs1wl you definitely have a point there. It's always something I find mildly amusing. They deny the Falkland islanders human rights based upon them not being "original inhabitants", yet 98.5% of Argentina is made up of people from Europe or Africa
@kevanskelton9982
@kevanskelton9982 Жыл бұрын
I would recommend the book by Nigel ‘Sharky’ Ward - Sea Harrier over the Falklands. Detailed account from one of the Sea Harrier commanding officers.
@jonathanbaum3499
@jonathanbaum3499 Жыл бұрын
It's a little like the Doolittle Raid; the effect on the enemy's morale was more important than the physical damage inflicted.
@albertomanfredi3675
@albertomanfredi3675 4 ай бұрын
Con la diferencia que Puerto Stanley no es Tokyo, las Malvinas no son Japón, y las fuerzas argentinas ni arrimaban al ejército imperial japonés. No exageremos, amigo.
@florescentadolescent8534
@florescentadolescent8534 2 жыл бұрын
I can remember 2 harriers flying over our school in bradford on their way to the deployment to the Falklands conflict. I was 11 i think, i couldnt believe how loud they were but as typical boys we were thrilled at the sight of them. What machines!! Nothing but respect for pilots of both sides of this carry on.
@AnalogueInTheUK
@AnalogueInTheUK 2 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the live intelligence sent by Chile (obs and long range radar), letting the task force know that the AAF was on its way, and allowing the Harrier to get airborne without wasting too much fuel.
@sirbob562
@sirbob562 Жыл бұрын
And don't forget the Satellite intelligence that was given to Argentina by the USSR, The French technicians who still worked on the Exocets and the Peruvian fighter aircraft flown to Argentina painted as Argentinian planes and given to replace losses sustained....
@samuelortiz3641
@samuelortiz3641 Жыл бұрын
Chile temía de una invasión Argentina!! no se concretó por la aventura de los generales Argentinos de nada menos desafiar a una potencia militar como Gran Bretaña!!!
@chrislye8912
@chrislye8912 Жыл бұрын
@@sirbob562 so it’s a contractual issue with the Exocets; they had sold a weapon system and had fsrs on site; they did their job…
@Vrey662
@Vrey662 Жыл бұрын
@@sirbob562 theres no proof of any of that
@sirbob562
@sirbob562 Жыл бұрын
@rolandgarroz Look it up if you don't believe me.. Just saying no doesn't mean it's not so !!
@Techiejt
@Techiejt Жыл бұрын
Never ceases to amaze me when I see footage of Harriers vertical landing.
@allgood6760
@allgood6760 Жыл бұрын
Thanks... A4 Skyhawks operated with our RNZAF... HMS Invincible visited NZ in the 80's and I thought the Sea Harrier was amazing.! .a mate of mine was Tactical Radar Operator on HMS Invincible during the Falklands War and he didn't know if he was going to live or die! and also there is a GR3 Harrier in a museum here in NZ.. thanks from down under 👍✈️🇳🇿
@emilianoruizbmw
@emilianoruizbmw 2 жыл бұрын
we never stood a chance against those sea harriers , those planes are one of the best in human history ever made .plus they look so handsome
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 2 жыл бұрын
Being Portuguese and pro British during that war, I nevertheless feel sorry and have the greatest respect for the Argentine Air Force and C.A.N.A. pilots. They were absolutely fearless, took terrible losses, were immensely Patriotic and fought the whole war alone, without the support of the Argentinian Navy who for some unfathomable reason was allowed not to fight anymore after losing one ship. (just imagine the Royal Navy doing the same after losing the Sheffield!) The Argentinian Air Force, on the other hand, was forced to make sortie after sortie and suffer accordingly, operating in the limit of their combat radius and using free fall bombs that they strove to drop at point blank. They appeared not to be properly trained in Air Combat maneuvers too. Pierre Clostermann, a French former RAF Wing Commander in the Fighter Command who also praised their courage, was then criticized by some British newspaper on the grounds that being a former RAF pilot he should not praise the enemy publicly. Frankly, the world is awash with stupid people!
@peterp7541
@peterp7541 2 жыл бұрын
Argentina lost just one ship with the Belgrano sinking but 355 people lost their lives with it, more than all the British casualties in the whole conflict, and more than all other casualties Argentina experienced in the rest of the conflict, so it was just one ship but with terrible human losses, so I think for this reason they decided to employ the air force only to engage in the attacks.
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterp7541 Certainly; the loss of life with the sinking of the Belgrano was huge, I myself was very shaken when I saw the newspapers. But the Argentinians should have understood that they could not afford not to engage their Navy if they intended to keep the Falklands. Possibly, had the Argentinian Navy been engaged the Royal Navy losses could have become unacceptable. More recently we had the sinking of the Cruiser Moskva, which of course did not preclude the Russian Navy to remain in the area. I actually visited this Cruiser in Lisbon harbor in 2008 and cannot help feeling sorry for that beautiful ship and its garrison; at least those I met then were terrific people. But they're Russians, so I'm glad they went to the bottom.
@peterp7541
@peterp7541 2 жыл бұрын
@@duartesimoes508 The Argentinian government at the time, an unelected group of military generals, had a very flawed strategy about the whole thing and did not expect that the UK would engage in a full war over those tiny islands that at the time they had come close to discuss sovereignty over, so the whole plan went the wrong way as soon as the UK decided to send their entire military to take the islands back. I do agree that Argentina kept a lot of its main fire power in Argentina and this helped the British win the war clearly, and that things would have gone a different way if like you are saying the navy had got engaged as well, etc., but the reality is this would have just increased the human cost terribly for both countries and I think sooner or later the UK would have won it anyway because the US was on their side, as well as most of the western powers, so they would have both supplied the UK with everything they needed to win while at the same time kept the arms embargo on Argentina that had been put in place already which was going to make it hard for Argentina to resupply the army (e.g.: they were already struggling to buy the exocet missiles from France..) If you look at the big picture, the interesting fact is that the war was the nail on the coffin of the military junta in Argentina, there was never another military coup in Argentina since then and I am pretty sure there will never be another one, and the war increased Tatcher's popularity in the UK which helped her get a second term which otherwise would have likely not happened, and her transformation / modernization of the UK economy would have not happened ( I know some people in the UK don't agree with her legacy been positive but I think it was overall...) so if you think of that, it was a win-win for both countries, of course despite the human cost that was paid regrettably.
@ohgosh5892
@ohgosh5892 Жыл бұрын
The right-wing tabloid newspapers exist by fomenting hatred and bigotry. The idea that Johnny Foreigner might not be a craven coward does not fit the right-wing tabloid playbook in any way.
@Gamer-do7qv
@Gamer-do7qv 18 күн бұрын
@ peterp7541 oh look an American trying to make take the claim for British 7,000 miles away from home victory. By the way the British did not send their entire military to the falklands , they sent 2,500 and the military had over 300 thousand at the time so stop talking gibberish
@DreamyReme
@DreamyReme 7 ай бұрын
I've seen one of those 20 Sea Harriers at the Boscombe Down Aviation Collection, the story is quite impressive.
@sirfer6969
@sirfer6969 Жыл бұрын
Some of the footage early in this piece showing the low flying Argentinian forces is just mind blowing. I was 12 when this war broke out and will never forget the scenes of carnage on the nightly news in NZ
@tonyyates2012
@tonyyates2012 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent training, focused and courageous pilots and a thorough understanding of the Harriers limitations and how to work around them.
@AnonNomad
@AnonNomad 2 жыл бұрын
Entire story of the FAA, though the Harrier is a slight jump in performance from Swordfish I suppose.
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnonNomad Just a tad.
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 2 жыл бұрын
The Argentinian pilots get 10/10 for courage but were never a match for their British counterparts.
@randomotter6346
@randomotter6346 2 жыл бұрын
The harriers limitations were only a consequence of their advantages and design.
@madhukarjonathanminj2772
@madhukarjonathanminj2772 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigblue6917 their aircraft and equipment were also terrible, not to mention the lack of fuel.
@vinnyganzano1930
@vinnyganzano1930 2 жыл бұрын
British professionalism was always going to tell against the Argentine military.
@Kysushanz
@Kysushanz Жыл бұрын
Fascinating war - as a young Infantry Major RNZIR, I did a presentation to 1 Task Force RNZA on the Falklands Campaign, it was of course more infantry based but did deal somewhat briefly with the air and sea component. I believe I still have the actual presentation! Enjoyed the video you produced.
@brando6BL
@brando6BL 2 жыл бұрын
My late father-in-law worked for BAe and was the pattern-maker for the jet 'nozzles' to be cast around. He was a time-served carpenter/joiner and worked the patterns up in lignum vitae. Patterns are usually formed in pieces so that the pattern can be dismantled and removed from the casting and re-used. Interestingly, he had worked building Mosquitoes during WW2.
@RobCraig-wf3yi
@RobCraig-wf3yi 7 ай бұрын
Wow, interesting allright. Those mosquitoes could take some punishment.
@stue2298
@stue2298 2 жыл бұрын
No mention of how Chile helped the UK with the setting up of a secret early warning radar station on Chilian soil, which was able to detect Argentinian aircraft taking off to attack the British shipping. The continual use of this radar eventually caused it to break down for repairs, which directly lead to the loss a of British Frigate. This early warning radar allowed the 20 Sea Harriers to be used more effectively, since they where warned of attacks by Argentinian aircraft taking off from the mainland.
@luisandresvelosogutierrez2123
@luisandresvelosogutierrez2123 2 жыл бұрын
Correcto se te olvido mencionar que pilotos chilenos tripularon algunas naves inglesas durante los ataques
@jorgemayorga6934
@jorgemayorga6934 2 жыл бұрын
@@luisandresvelosogutierrez2123 Vamos con el verso acostumbrado; pero........!
@javier8341
@javier8341 2 жыл бұрын
exctly actualy that was the most important thing in the air battle, not the harriers, not the missiles, the fact of knowing when the argentines were taking off, making the perfect timing for the harriers take off and intercept the argys aircraft was the most important thing in the war and Chilean radars gave that.
@bobhoward4686
@bobhoward4686 Жыл бұрын
@@luisandresvelosogutierrez2123 No Chileans on Royal Navy Warships during the Falklands War !!
@adandiaz9180
@adandiaz9180 Жыл бұрын
@@bobhoward4686 he must refer to the secret operation of british awacs painted as chilean air force planes operating from chilean soil
@christopherbishop5014
@christopherbishop5014 2 жыл бұрын
Respect to the pilots of the Argentinian airforce even our forces said the fought bravely . Lest we forget all those who died bravely in that conflict .
@albertomanfredi3675
@albertomanfredi3675 4 ай бұрын
@@Al-iv3mb Los argentinos de lo único que están pendientes es del fútbol.
@veritasvincit2745
@veritasvincit2745 7 ай бұрын
I was a school child when this happened and avidly followed events. In over four decades I've yet to read derogatory comments from those who were there about the Argentine pilots. A guy I once worked with was there and witnessed much first hand. The Argentinian pilots pressed home their attacks with success under heavy fire without flinching. They were also savvy enough to clear off when Sea Harriers were around. Appalling loss of life for my nation and their's.
@lavaljeantet
@lavaljeantet 5 ай бұрын
Crystal clear explanations ! Very well structured and documented storytelling which is deeply captivating attention of the viewer....BRAVO !!!!
@davidmoore1477
@davidmoore1477 2 жыл бұрын
I was there as a cadet for the launching of HMS Invincible A Harrier stopped in front of the queen, bowed , stood on it's tail and then went vertical So cool!
@davidmoore1477
@davidmoore1477 Жыл бұрын
@Will interesting side story, when I joined the Army at 16, we went on a canoeing expedition. Ark Royal had been scrapped and was awaiting the guys to come and cut her up I went up close and touched the hull, a bow wave off anothership caught me and I head butted the Ark Royal! Not many people can say that, I bet! 😆😆
@RoderickMacdonald
@RoderickMacdonald 2 жыл бұрын
The Harrier Forward Operating Base (FOB) was constructed at Port San Carlos, not San Carlos as stated in this video. It based four Harriers, two Sea Harriers and two GR3s each day and was pumping 40,000 gallons of AVCAT into Harriers and helicopters each day. Argentine aircraft were focused on the ships in San Carlos and missed the construction of the airstrip and refueling installation at Port San Carlos which was impossible to camouflage. I was the engineer commander within 3 Commando Brigade Royal Marines, responsible for choosing the location and overseeing the construction of this FOB by 59 Independent Commando Squadron Royal Engineers who built the fuel supply system and 11 Field Squadron Royal Engineers who build the strip and then operated the facility. The Royal Navy named this location, HMS Sheathbill Royal Naval Air Station Port San Carlos. Once Argentine commanders realized Harriers were ashore it was too late for them to do anything about it. From talking to Argentine commanders post conflict, they informed me that once the British had Harriers flying and refueling from a base on shore they realized they could not win.
@johndastoli8572
@johndastoli8572 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating story and very relevant how we would fight in the littorals today. Building and being able to repair/maintain expeditionary airfields are essential to holding key maritime terrain against air and naval attacks. I think the Falklands and Guadalcanal are two of the best examples of this.
@RoderickMacdonald
@RoderickMacdonald 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndastoli8572 You are right. This is one of the reasons the USMC is so interested in the Falklands Conflict and why I lecture on the Advanced Expeditionary Logistics Operations Course at the Marine Air Ground Force Training Command Twenty-Nine Palms
@johndastoli8572
@johndastoli8572 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoderickMacdonald I used to work at MCTOG we should chat!
@av8bvma513
@av8bvma513 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, that man!
@richardvernon317
@richardvernon317 2 жыл бұрын
Argentines stopped low level attacks on San Carlos around the 29th May 1982 as the place had become a Hornets nest. Pretty much every aircraft that entered the AOA from 23rd May 82 onwards landed back in Argentina with more holes in it than it had in it when it took off. (mostly 7.62mm in diameter or bigger (one Skyhawk landed with an unexploded 20 or 40mm cannon shell embedded in its wing). That was if they got home at all.
@AlbertDongler
@AlbertDongler 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully put together. Thank you for taking the time to put this part of our history together. Subbed 🙂
@_Raven_
@_Raven_ Жыл бұрын
The Harrier truly is a beautiful machine. There's just something about seeing it landing in VTOL mode that never fails to take my breath away.
@britishpatriot7386
@britishpatriot7386 4 ай бұрын
Stand closer it'll certainly take your breath away 😂
@davec8730
@davec8730 4 ай бұрын
the widowmaker.
@Gorbyrev
@Gorbyrev 2 жыл бұрын
Good episode. It is also worthy of note that the Harrier's vectored thrust allowed them to decelerate much faster turning the tables on any aircraft attacking from the rear, turning prey into hunter. It was one of those circumstances where the pilot's skill and confidence in their airframe and their understanding of its unique capabilities made it lethal to aircraft that at an initial glance seemed to be superior.
@robertjennings745
@robertjennings745 2 жыл бұрын
Cmdr Sharkey Ward's book illustrates this so well. Forward roll in a jet anyone?
@keithwand1125
@keithwand1125 2 жыл бұрын
RAF Called it viffing!
@prepperjonpnw6482
@prepperjonpnw6482 2 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of something I saw a russian jet do recently. It was zipping along at a pretty good clip when suddenly it pointed it’s nose straight up but the plane continued in it’s original flight path. This only took a couple of seconds with the result being the russian jet slowed down incredibly fast then pointed its nose forward or level again. The jet that had been on its tail was suddenly way past and was now the prey. It happened so quick that I had to replay the video several times to make sure it wasn’t a trick of editing. Lol
@TheAngmarwitch
@TheAngmarwitch 2 жыл бұрын
@@keithwand1125 Vectoring In Forward Flight?
@TheAngmarwitch
@TheAngmarwitch 2 жыл бұрын
@@prepperjonpnw6482 Its a move known as the Cobra I think ..kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJKWpKVqfdZ5aac
@amphilbey
@amphilbey 2 жыл бұрын
Great series, always remember a friend in middle school who’s dad was in the conflict bringing back pictures of downed Argentinian aircraft, very brave pilots on both sides. Worth including the famous ITV news broadcast from Brian Hanrahan
@TheBioniXman
@TheBioniXman 7 ай бұрын
I was stationed at RAF Gutersloh in Germany on Harriers at that time. I remember the hours that we put in to prepare and modify our GR3s to operate from carriers. Never drilled any holes in the aircraft to let sea water out though.
@colinstewart1432
@colinstewart1432 Жыл бұрын
Love the Harrier. Made loads of Airfix models of these as a kid. My dad was born in the Falklands. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@profesercreeper
@profesercreeper 2 жыл бұрын
just love how much respect the veterans have for each other. The British talking about how brave the Argentinean pilots were. For me this is a stark contrast with the Argentinean naval and ground forces who seem very unprofessional.
@ramonandrajo6348
@ramonandrajo6348 2 жыл бұрын
The dictatorship in Argentina ordered the attack on the Malvinas Islands, knowing that it was not a good tactic.
@carlchallinor4933
@carlchallinor4933 2 жыл бұрын
The Navy was screwed from day one. The most unprofessional thing they did was not withdraw once the exclusion zone was set. The Belgrano was very predictable and extremely avoidable. The Army wasnt so bad. 40% conscripts was always going to cause moral issues. Especially given a lot had been recalled having already served, and the rest were barely out of training. But overall their land forces had trained to fight Chile. Now they were trapped on an island with a bunch of angry paras; some of the best ground forces in the world with proper support. And they had to watch their navy and airforce withdraw leaving them to fend for themselves with what they had. Its the Airforce who actually have all the what ifs...and whilst they did well, they are the only force who you can realistically could have done better. That is NOT to call into question their bravery, but their doctrine and training. i.e. if you want to invade a bunch of islands, and you know the response can come in the form of extremely vulnerable task force of ships - you make sure you are able to meet that threat. That is the failure that cost Argentina the war. They met the threat on the fly and suffered the consequences. As things stand the plaudits given to the airforce are justified but in the same vein, you kinda dont want to be in the RAF situation of applauding training and professionalism. Rather than the Argentinian airforce situation of applauding improvisation and bravery because those arent things you want modern jets to be doing.
@mookie2637
@mookie2637 2 жыл бұрын
I' m not sure that's fair in terms of the Argentinian ground forces. They had been on Longdon, Harriet, etc for months -and even then then many of them stubbornly held out.
@danielw5850
@danielw5850 2 жыл бұрын
A good point. Their ORBAT placed formations with conscripts on all the high ground, supported by direct & indirect fire, which had weeks to zero-in. Also, their positions were behind mine fields and were flanked by regulars and (so called) Special Forces. At Darwin/Goose Green, 20mm and 30mm anti-aircraft guns were depressed, to fire over “open sights”; all the aforementioned is regularly forgotten by people pushing the, “conscripts- Lambs to the slaughter “ narrative.
@joeblogger5687
@joeblogger5687 2 жыл бұрын
Unfair. A lot of the Argentine soldiers were conscripts who really didn't want to be there, who were badly supplied and ill equipped. By the time the land battles happened, you had poorly trained, cold, wet and hungry conscripts against motivated, well fed professionals. On the few occasions that we (The British) came face to face with Argentine Regulars, they proved themselves to be damn good soldiers and were treated with respect!
@jamesjross
@jamesjross 2 жыл бұрын
so glad we recognise Argentinian pilots heroics.
@christopher9979
@christopher9979 Жыл бұрын
This is a great series for sure. I would like to hear more about the logistics of supporting the RN fleet so far from home.
@mattmatt7305
@mattmatt7305 Жыл бұрын
The psychological impact on the Argentinian Air Force of the Black Buck raids was priceless. It said “We can get at you on the ground, and we will.”
@hadleyscott1160
@hadleyscott1160 2 жыл бұрын
Harriers are an awesome fighter plane. I worked with them in 1975. On my ship they landed like a helicopter but mostly took off down the deck. The thrust being so powerful it would rip the surface off of it.It was like a hurricane at the beach. Tiny pieces hitting you everywhere. You had to watch if a pilot moved the nozzles while taxing around. The thrust would blister your skin quickly and I mean blister painfully. I saw many deckhands drop their equipment and run. After the cruise was done they showed us the maneuverability of the aircraft. Forward/ Backwards and Sideways as well as standing still alongside the ship.
@iamasmurf1122
@iamasmurf1122 Жыл бұрын
so awesome that half ever made dropped out of the SKY , they were notorious pieces of garbage , you fool no one
@hadleyscott1160
@hadleyscott1160 Жыл бұрын
They went from 0-50,000 feet faster than the F-4 phantom and they didn’t have after-burners. The Ace of Spades squadron. But then again it was 1975. We spent most of winter at Guantanamo Cuba putting a new deck coat on and within a day the deck got blasted apart. Harriers were powerful.
@hithere7382
@hithere7382 Жыл бұрын
If you think the Harrier hurts on deck you should go try out a F-35B or C on the deck heh.
@user-nv7gx3qm8u
@user-nv7gx3qm8u 7 ай бұрын
The UK government made a big mistake in retiring their Harriers. (So what's new with them?!) Not only was the aircraft unique there was still nothing to match its VSTOL capabilities. Thank goodness our American allies had the good sense to see just how important the Harriers are and snapped a few up for themselves. The British are clever, there's no doubt about it and via competition between various aircraft companies came amazing aircraft. Then along came the politicians who know nothing worth knowing about industry and technology, who decided to stick all their eggs in one basket that led to the winding up of independent aircraft manufactures. No competition, means much less innovation. If I didn't know better (and I don't?) the present government and those of the past three decades have been anti-British industry. This has led to the collapse of UK industry and the world has suffered by this due to more lack of competition and inventiveness. Lets face it, what inventions that are really advanced have been introduced lately? Some countries may have super fast trains, but they're still trains. The jet engine was a massive breakthrough by the British, along with the jump jet. These days, there appears to be nothing really new under the sun, just offspring's of tech that we already know. Inventiveness ona world shattering scale appears to be no more..
@22carmoon
@22carmoon 2 жыл бұрын
This content is so good in quality. Love this Falklands series, one of the best channels on YT.
@azarelpillay8538
@azarelpillay8538 Жыл бұрын
Around 10:00 it's amazing to hear the admiration and respect that "enemies" have for each other.
@johnrussell3961
@johnrussell3961 Жыл бұрын
It’s only the civilians who never went to war who have an issue. It’s the same with Vietnam and WW2.
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 Жыл бұрын
The Reformers like Sprey and Boyd seems to have discounted Harriers downing their opponents using missiles as an example of mature tech being beneficial to fighter aircraft.
@pajodato5339
@pajodato5339 2 жыл бұрын
Argentina did have 100 OLD aircrafts (5 of them modern), and only two air refuelling C130, Only 12 could fly at the same time. Under the best conditions that's very little airpower considering they have to strike a 100 ship fleet (2 of them aircraft carriers with 12 modern planes each) + a strategic bomber squadron. Regarding the Black Buck raids, those were an utter failure, it did negligible damage to the runway itself or military support units. The 1200m airstrip was a small civilian airport unable to support high performance combat airplanes in Argentina inventory. It was useful to medium cargo planes. My uncle fought in Darwin and he was present and almost killed at the shoot down of a Harrier on may 4 during a extremely low level attack, at the morning hours. He was in his trench and the Harrier sudden attack was met with antiaircraft fire and very little small arms fire from some of the troops who were able to react. The british pilot ejection seat catapulted him in the same exact moment the plane hit the ground while desintegrating in a rolling fireball. The fireball rolled 400 meters in the fields neaw Darwin and the pieces showered his trench and many fighting positions called fox holes. He was unharmed, but the british pilot (a very tall man) was tangled in a wirefence and killed in his airplane seat, still with smoke and fumes from the rocket. As the burial was given with military honors, my uncle Hugo was in the guard and he can be seen in the video of the burial of the british pilot. The pilot name was Lt. Nicholas Taylor. watch?v=MyZ5ipzXgEo
@Soulflytribe04
@Soulflytribe04 2 жыл бұрын
Was Hugo British or Argentine? It's unclear.
@pajodato5339
@pajodato5339 2 жыл бұрын
@@Soulflytribe04 Argentine 1963 conscript soldier (mandatory military service).
@stijnvandamme76
@stijnvandamme76 Жыл бұрын
you are right the Black Buck raids were just a desperate attempt by the RAF to be part of the action. Their major achievement is turning HUGE quantities of Jetfuel into exhaust gasses.
@21142317
@21142317 Жыл бұрын
The Argentinians had lots of aircraft with superior performance to the Harrier, age is irrelevant. Harrier whilst new was compromised by the need to hover.
@petertyson4022
@petertyson4022 Жыл бұрын
I forgot about the V-bomber in that war. I was going to join the army , but told I was to old. 3 years later . The Falkland wars started. Few of my friends left the army a few years before as well. Watched it on the news. Listened and Showed what was happening with bad news from both sides. It's only from dominated TV shows that you saw the real horrors of that war. Hoped that Britain would never be in a war again. But I was wrong. . Good show. 😊
@Steamerbeen
@Steamerbeen Жыл бұрын
I know an Argy POW who said the British when captured treated him better than his regiment.
@josephstevens9888
@josephstevens9888 2 жыл бұрын
The Falklands campaign demonstrated the superb abilities of the Raytheon AIM-9L Sidewinder, which was a vast improvement over earlier versions of the Sidewinder. The AIM-9L's reputation was further cemented when in June 1982, during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, 80 Syrian aircraft were downed by the IAF, mostly utilizing AIM-9L' s. It was been proven before that given the better trained pilot and superior technology, a smaller force can defeat a much larger one. I hope Mr. Putin heeds this lesson of history if he tries to mess with NATO, whose members militaries are some of the best-trained in the world.
@defcon1africa676
@defcon1africa676 2 жыл бұрын
Supplied by the Americans. The country you love to loath.
@josephstevens9888
@josephstevens9888 2 жыл бұрын
@@defcon1africa676 I do not loath America. I have been in service to the United States for 33 years.
@rightiswrongrightiswrong806
@rightiswrongrightiswrong806 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephstevens9888 You do realise the Nazis in Kiev have lost their airforce?
@TheChrissy1977
@TheChrissy1977 2 жыл бұрын
Argentina had an ex carrier from the Royal Navy and dropped British bombs luckily lower than they arm. Not to say the Argentinian pilots were at all slack. The French denied training with the dausard, excuse spelling. Harrier was amazing but would not able to take 200 plus.
@Xyzabc998
@Xyzabc998 2 жыл бұрын
yes, yes, not all about Merica. Many Mericans think the Harrier is also Merican.....Good combination, the Harrier and Sidewinder.
@philipcrabtree1679
@philipcrabtree1679 2 жыл бұрын
I was part of 801 Sqdn throughout the Falklands War. Some of the facts quoted during the video I believe are not correct. The harrier GR3 was never fitted with RADAR. The GR3 was approved for the fitment of RWR, which is not a RADAR. It’s a means of detecting when a RADAR is scanning the aircraft. My second point is that I am not sure how your SHAR CO from 809 can comment on the 1st May raid on port Stanley, when he didn’t arrive in the theatre until 18th May on SS Atlantic Conveyor. The SHAR aircraft on Atlantic Conveyor were used as attrition spares for 800 / 801, therefore 809 did not exist or take part in combat operations during the Falklands War.
@draigygoch
@draigygoch 2 жыл бұрын
There were a few mistakes in this video
@14rnr
@14rnr 2 жыл бұрын
First, thank you for your service to our Country and territories. Second, thank you for my freedom. Third, thank you for sharing your knowledge of events.
@leggett2287
@leggett2287 2 жыл бұрын
809 absolutely took part in the Falklands War, they arrived before the start of Operation Sutton. Also, why couldn't the CO of 809 comment on the Port Stanley Raid? You don't have to be directly in theatre to comment on an operation. The fact that not 1 single bomb from the May 1st Harrier raid is a big indicator.
@richardvernon317
@richardvernon317 2 жыл бұрын
The RAF harriers did get fitted with an I band transponder under their LRMTS housing for Op Corporate. Definitely a piece of radar equipment not fitted to the aircraft at the time. The RWR system had been there from the GR 3 upgrade.
@philipcrabtree1679
@philipcrabtree1679 2 жыл бұрын
@@leggett2287 You are correct to say that 809 did arrive on Atlantic Conveyor before Operation Sutton on the 18th May, but on the 18/19 May four SHAR went to Hermes to be part of 800 NAS and four SHAR went to Invincible to be part of 801 NAS. I was there so I know what happened. There was an attempt by the CO of 809 to keep 809 going on Invincible but the CO of 801 & the Captain JJ Black dismissed this idea, so the aircraft became part of 801 and had 801 markings put on the aircraft. If your information is from the 809 book. I can tell you it’s wrong and Sharkey Ward has told the author.
@orange42
@orange42 Жыл бұрын
These videos are superb! (but don't need to say the aircraft is behind you;) Keep up the great job. Can't wait to get back for another visit.
@DSROBB
@DSROBB Жыл бұрын
A very interesting video and superb commentary by Paris. Very knowledgeable and clear on this. As normal in war a lot of skill required as well as an equal measure of luck.
@GrahamWalters
@GrahamWalters 2 жыл бұрын
We never had air superiority over the Falklands, losing those ships proves that fact. The carriers were never close enough and we never had enough aircraft to that
@edtrine8692
@edtrine8692 2 жыл бұрын
What they needed was an AEW aircraft like the E-2 but their carriers could handle it?
@charlesbarbour2331
@charlesbarbour2331 2 жыл бұрын
@@edtrine8692 absolutely right and they belated came up with the solution: an AEW Sea king (Harrier 809 by Rowland White:pg 251) shame that they hadn’t thought of it before the Falklands
@edtrine8692
@edtrine8692 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesbarbour2331 Not sure if it's just in the video game Harpoon but I saw something about a later version of the Harrier that could carry the AIM-120 know as the US Slammer? That would have come in handy?
@DuraLexSedLex
@DuraLexSedLex 2 жыл бұрын
@@edtrine8692 The AMRAAM was not yet in service during the Falklands War. The FA2 version of Sea Harrier, which could carry AMRAAM came in '88, while AMRAAM itself came in late '91. While such weapons could have indeed given the British an immense and decisive advantage, they did not yet exist.
@edtrine8692
@edtrine8692 2 жыл бұрын
Not even sure if the Harrier used in the Falklands had airborne radar to support even the Sparrow?
@yourdrummer2034
@yourdrummer2034 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job and getting the video out at the 40th anniversary of the daring mission! I loved it!
@jessehamm3573
@jessehamm3573 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say the Argentine Air Force also beat the odds by employing unguided ordinance with such impeccable accuracy, which would have otherwise inflicted much graver losses on the Royal Navy, if only so many of their bombs hadn't failed to explode. Very few actual dogfights occurred during the course of the actual campaign, as, once the AAF aircraft had completed their attacks, they were compelled to speed back to the mainland on their remaining fuel, completely vulnerable and with no time to engage in a turning duel.
@oscarbosio9881
@oscarbosio9881 Жыл бұрын
El Comandante de la Royal Navy dijo que de haber explotado las bombas en seis de sus barcos, la campaña de Malvinas se hacía insostenible, rercordando que solo le quedaba el 45% de su flota utilizable y no al 100%. La aviación argentina les hundió 8 naves y le tocó el 70% de la flota de superficie y con muy pocos recursos por el bloqueo de armas que sufría, especialmente los exocet.
@Fiasco3
@Fiasco3 Жыл бұрын
There was a reason, the bombs they had were screw/fin armament and they were dropping them too low to arm.
@mh53j
@mh53j Жыл бұрын
@@oscarbosio9881 8 ships? Check your math: Ardent, Antelope, Atlantic Conveyor, Sheffield, Coventry. Think that's 5.... Edit: I made a mistake too... Should be 6 including Sir Galahad, even though she was sunk by the British due to irreparable damage and as a war grave.
@oscarbosio9881
@oscarbosio9881 Жыл бұрын
@@mh53j Buques perdidos (Hundidos o destruidos) 8. HNS Sheffield. HMS Coventry. HMS Ardent. HMS Antelope. RFA Sir Galahad. RFA Sir Tristam. Portacontenedor de Gran Porte Atlantic Conveyor. Lancha de desembarco Foxtrot. cero que son 8. Aparte quedaron fuera de combate o inactivas las siguientes naves: HMS Onyx. HMS Alacrity. HMS Avenger. HMS Arrow. HMS Argonaut. HMS Antrim. HMS Glasmorgan. HMS Glasgw. eL total de buques perjudicados fue 31 (tengo la lista completa y con los días en los que fueron tocados). El 40% de los buques de guerra de superficie quedaron fuera e combate, y un 70% tocado por la aviación argentina. Cuatro de las seis unidades de apoyo logístico fueron dañadas, dos destruidas y dos dañadas. El 13 de Junio solo le quedaba a Gran Bretaña 3 buques de guerra en perfectas condiciones, según expresó el Almirante Woodward Comandante de la Flota Real. (Períodico "el malvinense". Libros de Historia Naval británica, informes desclasificados , libros oficiales de la FA Argentina, Veteranos de Guerra de ambos bandos, etc). No fueron solo 5. Saludos.
@andypeterson3070
@andypeterson3070 Жыл бұрын
@@mh53j And the Sir Galahad in Bluff Cove. Still not 8 though.
@infantryattacks
@infantryattacks 2 жыл бұрын
We had an Argentine Navy pilot on our staff at LANTFLT a few decades ago. He flew A4s during the Falklands War. He explained that his aircraft carried enough bombs and fuel to hit the target and return to base but only if he took no evasive action. According to him, the FAA and RAF Harriers mostly conducted stern chases against nonmaneuvering targets. This tactic was effective, he admitted, but it took little skill and was more akin to clubbing baby seals than fighter combat. He also admitted that the Argentine Navy Air arm went to war with little experience wrt setting bomb fuzes for low altitude delivery. According to him, about half of the Argentine bombs that struck RN ships failed to detonate. If they had detonated, the RN would have lost many more ships and this might have tilted the war in Argentina's favor. He wasn't bitter and could be seen drinking beer with RN officers at official functions. Just another pilot thrust into a politician's war.
@richardvernon317
@richardvernon317 2 жыл бұрын
Argentinian navy A-4 Skyhawk fleet was Fooked before the war even started. I think they had around 12 still on inventory. 3 airframes were in a fully serviceable condition, the rest had fatigue cracks in the airframe which on survey lead to 4 of the aircraft being declared totally unflyable. Thus they only had 8 flyable aircraft and none of them had a fully reliable ejection seat as all of the explosive cartridges in them were life expired due to a US Arms embargo. They lost 3 Aircraft to Sea Harriers on 21st May and an Aircraft crashed on landing on 23rd May. They were pretty much out of the fight after that. As for the Bomb Fuzing, there was nothing wrong with the settings of them. The Argentine ground crew set them to the minimum arming times that the bomb fuzes would allow. The problem was the pilots dropped them from too low and too close to the target for the weapons to arm even at minimum arming settings .
@infantryattacks
@infantryattacks 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardvernon317 Good to know. Thank you.
@PayYourTick
@PayYourTick 2 жыл бұрын
Cope
@christopherbishop5014
@christopherbishop5014 2 жыл бұрын
Respect to the argentine pilots . A lot of them knew and were prepared to fly impossible maneuvers that most were not even trained for . True bravery
@ivangruer5326
@ivangruer5326 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardvernon317 France sell to Argentinsa 14 Super Ettendard with 14 exocet, only five was to Malvinas war
@54mgtf22
@54mgtf22 2 жыл бұрын
Great series. Thank you. Love your work 👍
@ImperialWarMuseums
@ImperialWarMuseums 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@plusafdotcom959
@plusafdotcom959 Жыл бұрын
I've got a few personal historical notes to add.... My (ex-) wife and I were probably the first civilians to set foot on the Falkland Islands after the war, as it was one of the first ports on the Lindblad Cruising Antarctic tour that year. Port Stanley may have been one of our first stops... memory's fuzzy on that, and it WAS many years ago, but we found the people we encountered to be warm and welcoming and happy to see friendly faces. The people, the accents and the countryside were very reminiscent of our visits to Scotland in previous years, and it was clear to us that the British BELONGED there, as opposed to the Argies. On one of our excursions into the countryside, we came upon an abandoned Argentinian cannon, surrounded by spent cartridges and round shot from spent shells. I brought many of each home as souvenirs and still have many of the round shot in my workshop. I use the shot in baby rattles I make as gifts and for sale of my woodturning items. Another story came from local farmers we talked to. When the Argentinian Army spread thousands of land mines all over the place, they left off the metallic rings specified in international agreements that made the mines magnetically detectable. The farmers couldn't leave their homes until authorities cleared the area, so, as one gent described it, "all we could do is sit in our homes and listen to our sheep exploding around us." Was that a War Crime, Argentina? And, finally, we had many naturalist talks onboard ship every week, and one bit of information stuck with me... Why would Argentina want the Falklands, anyway?? Well consider this factoid: The Falklands, (like, coincidentally [?] Vietnam) are connected to the continental mainland by a large 'continental shelf.' As many of you might recall, What is found under many of the world's continental shelves? Yep, oil. I never found that mentioned in any reports or analysis of the Falkland's War or the Vietnam conflict, but it always struck me that there might have been some unmentioned motivations involved in each. Our trip continued to an incredibly memorable tour of the Antarctic Peninsula, Deception Island and several national research outposts near the shores of the Strait. I shot several thousand slides and upon our arrival in Santiago, Chile, a correspondent for National Geographic borrowed a dozen or two of my slides for consideration of publication, but, unfortunately, the War was 'old news' by then, and too late for a spot in any upcoming issue. We winnowed the slide collection down to "the best 200," which created a two-hour slide show of our voyage, which virtually nobody had the stamina to sit through. I still have the slides, but digitizing them is too expensive for me and too time-consuming to do by myself at home. So, in the context of that War, I hope this description is/was of some value or interest to you all.
@fabianacura5817
@fabianacura5817 Ай бұрын
Of course you would think they feel british BECAUSE THEY ARE BRITISH WHO WERE PUT THERE BY YOUR POLITITIANS. Why would argentina want those island.... BECAUSE THEY ARE THEIRS. Simple as that. Imean... it certainly wasnt yours. Why do you want it? Why did you send british people to live so far from your country? You need the space? Of couse it has to do with oil... but the ambition comes from thw britiah part.
@terryaherne6186
@terryaherne6186 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, as a british military analyst in the aftermath of these events pointed out, the crucial factor was geography. If the falklands Islands had been just 35 miles further from mainland Argentina, their warplanes had not the range to return to base. 35 miles closer, and their attacks would have benefited from dummy runs to survey their targets with lethal consequences
@ramonandrajo6348
@ramonandrajo6348 2 жыл бұрын
Malvinas Islands, correction.
@fitz.g3240
@fitz.g3240 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramonandrajo6348 Falklands (correction) you have to take territory to earn the right to name it!
@ramonandrajo6348
@ramonandrajo6348 2 жыл бұрын
@@fitz.g3240 Whatever, dude. XD
@carlchallinor4933
@carlchallinor4933 2 жыл бұрын
Call them what you like, they dont belong to the UK, they dont belong to Argentina, they get to self determine, and they want to be part of the British overseas territories. Maybe one day they will want to come to Argentina, and the UK wont stop them. Thats what you should understand, Argentina wants to override their will and take away their right to self determination. And as for why they dont like you...well randomly invading them and screwing up their lives because your dictator wanted to make himself look tough really did not do Argentina any favours with Falkland public opinion.
@richardvernon317
@richardvernon317 2 жыл бұрын
Daggers and Mirages would have been Screwed. SUper E's and Skyhawks had IFR. Limiting factor was only 2 C-130 Tankers.
@guglielmotranchina249
@guglielmotranchina249 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I have ever clicked on a video this fast. This mini series is one of the best I have seen on the topic, especially as a naturalized Brit who would like to learn more and more about our country. I look forward to the episode about the ground combat operations. Keep up the good work IMW!
@jesusandresramirezblanco2134
@jesusandresramirezblanco2134 Жыл бұрын
Soy venezolano, la guerra Malvinas/Malvinas es uno de los conflictos más interesantes. Según todos los informes, y puedo decir con seguridad una cosa: ninguna de las partes tenía una ventaja absoluta sobre la otra. Los argentinos por un lado. Poseía una enorme flota de combate de más de cien aviones de combate. Su ala de combate consistía en cazas Mirage IIIEA e IAI Mirage-V Dagger, armados con misiles Magic-I y Shafir II respectivamente. Su ala de combate consistía en aviones de ataque A-4B / C / Q Shykawk, bombarderos Canberra y aviones de ataque IA-58 Pucara. Pero hubo dos problemas que afectaron mucho a su flota. 1. Su ámbito de aplicación; la flota argentina estaba desprovista de pistas de despegue y aterrizaje en la zona. Dependiendo del 95% de las pistas del continente, los cazas Mirage III y Dagger no tenían reabastecimiento aéreo, por lo tanto, sus patrullas aéreas solo podían durar 5 o 7 minutos. Los A-4 eran los únicos con capacidad de reabastecimiento, pero sin la escolta de los Deltas argentinos tenían que volar al nivel del agua y totalmente indefensos contra los PACs británicos. Sumado al hecho de que el ala de ataque a tierra IA-58 fue destruida por el SAS en una operación magistral, dejó el apoyo terrestre en nada. Los británicos por otro, su ala de cazas navales Sea Harries para el combate aéreo con misiles AIM-9L Sidewinder. Con su ala de ataque de cazas Harriers Gr.3, bombarderos Avro Vulcan y varios helicópteros de ataque (que no mencionaré porque hay muchos). Aunque los británicos tenían una enorme superioridad tecnológica, sufrían de un número muy limitado de aviones para el teatro donde se llevaban a cabo los combates. Las parejas de Sea Harrier tuvieron que cubrir un área de patrulla que era dos veces más grande de lo que su alcance y tiempo de vuelo permitían, con aproximadamente el 69% de los PAC Harrier logrando interceptar a los grupos de ataque argentinos. Por otro lado, la mala comunicación entre los PAC fue otra contribución a este problema, además, el radar del Sea Harrier, Ferranti Blue Fox, demostró ser incapaz de atacar a los cazas argentinos en barrido bajo. Solo cuando las rutas de ataque pudieran descifrarse en medio del conflicto se podría usar la ventaja de los Harriers y Sidewinders. Los ataques terrestres se realizaron de manera extraña. Por un lado, los Harriers Gr.3 lograron destruir algunas posiciones en tierra, nunca lograron eliminar un activo importante, el radar Puerto Argentino/Stanley operó durante toda la guerra, mientras que las posiciones de artillería y búnkeres no fueron muy relevantes. en su uso. Como resumen, la guerra fue interesante, ambas fuerzas aéreas utilizaron el ingenio a mano para llevar a cabo sus tareas, hubo combates aéreos interesantes, como el 1 de mayo entre el Mirage III y Daggers contra los Sea Harriers, los ataques contra el Conventry y Shefield, la lucha en San Carlos como la primera batalla aérea naval moderna. Entre otros, pero si hay algo que decir, es que este conflicto abrió un nuevo paradigma para las estrategias aéreas que se tomarían pronto, ambas partes aprendieron de sus debilidades. Saludos desde Venezuela.
@littleshep5502
@littleshep5502 Жыл бұрын
Just a quick point, Puerto Argentino doesn't exist, it never has, it was a name Argentina tried to apply during their invasion, but they failed
@fernandog.dabramo9664
@fernandog.dabramo9664 4 ай бұрын
Muy bueno y detallado su informe, con datos técnicos sobre ambas fuerzas. Sin duda la diferencia tecnológica del armamento jugó a favor de los británicos, y de nuestro lado debió compensarse con ingenio y coraje. Un dato es que las tropas argentinas no quisieron tomar acciones represivas sobre la población civil de las islas, a la cual por haber nacido en suelo que consideramos argentino, eran compatriotas argentinos por el ius soli, y porque se debía respetar a la población civil según los códigos de la guerra. Claro que fué ingenuo ya que colaboraron abiertamente con los británicos. Esto según lo que se escribió en medios según relatos de los oficiales y soldados. Cordial saludo.
@robertsansone1680
@robertsansone1680 10 ай бұрын
Very excellent as always. Thank You
@johnkendall6962
@johnkendall6962 2 жыл бұрын
The harrier pilots regularly trained against NATO pilots flying high performance fighters like the F-16 or the tornado. One pilot said they were a nightmare in a dogfight because of VIF. Dog fights are always subsonic and the Harriers had the unique ability to move in ways a conventional jet couldn't follow.
@AA-xo9uw
@AA-xo9uw 2 жыл бұрын
VIFFing - a technique developed by then Marine Corps Captain Harry Blot in 1970 - was never an operational tactic with the Brits. VIFFing is little more than a gimmick.
@spawnof200
@spawnof200 2 жыл бұрын
the harrier was also a hot rod at low altitudes, it was aerodynamics that prevented it from going supersonic - not a lack of thrust.
@spankflaps1365
@spankflaps1365 2 жыл бұрын
9:37 The ship on the left with the twin funnels is the cruise ship SS Canberra, which was commandeered for the conflict as a troop carrier. It’s seen here in ‘bomb alley’ with Argentinian jets attacking the British ships. Later, Argentinian pilots said they didn’t attack the Canberra because they thought it was a hospital ship (because of its white colour). It was actually a troop ship, full of troops. If it had been attacked the carnage would have been huge. It had an aluminium superstructure so it would have gone up like a box of matches.
@farmerned6
@farmerned6 2 жыл бұрын
Nearly every member of Canberas peacetime crew volenteered to go with her, from the Entertainers to the ships Barber, she became a hospital ship, teating Many Argentine wounded, who refused to believe they were on the Canberra (they'd been told it had been sunk) the crew resorted to showing them every plate & cup with "Canberra"on it onboard , she then transported many POWs to argentina itself
@EurojuegosBsAs
@EurojuegosBsAs 2 жыл бұрын
Argentina had its own hospital ship near the islands, the Bahia Paraiso IIRC. It was very exposed but was not attacked by the British, so it was understood that hospital ships were off limits, so Canberra was not attacked by Argentina.
@farmerned6
@farmerned6 2 жыл бұрын
@@EurojuegosBsAs yet Argentina had claimed to have sunk Canberra repeatly? square that circle Canberra did not claim hospital ship status and the crew were informed of that fact Bahia Paraiso was PAINTED as hospital ship, probably in the same way Argentine Soldiers had painted Ammo dumps with red crosses as well
@patopato9668
@patopato9668 2 жыл бұрын
@@farmerned6 "Argentine Soldiers had painted Ammo dumps with red crosses as well" You got evidence of that? show them, thanks
@glastonbury4304
@glastonbury4304 Жыл бұрын
​@@patopato9668 he's just a farmer , he won't have any references
@timcolder8782
@timcolder8782 6 ай бұрын
No question that the Harrier's unique abilities gave it a great advantage in such a small war zone with limited landing space/run ways, whether it lacked the speed of the Argentine jets or not. If it happened today we would certainly miss it. The Vulcan missions an amazing feat considering the distances involved. My stepfather was in the RN on nuclear subs. at the time and one of his mates was on HMS Conqueror that sank the Belgrano. Not exactly a fan of Thatcher but at least she had the guts not to back down like our current PM would.
@nieljosephpalca7849
@nieljosephpalca7849 5 ай бұрын
The British Task Forces were superior in the air and in the sea but the threat of Argentinian submarines are undeniable. Simply the British were lucky enough that Argentinian submarine forces were full of malfunction weaponry. But what if the Argentinian Navy poses an effective torpedoes, and mix of few standard diesel submarines and dozen midget/small submarines. For sure, it would be difficult to conduct amphibious operations.
@user-in9in8hf9w
@user-in9in8hf9w 7 ай бұрын
The sea harriers were able to intercept the argentinian air force as we were using the chilean radar stations, (sea book called my falklands war), there was even a british radar station operating in chile and a nimrod operated from chilean bases. No1 squadron using harriers actually did the first naval flying trials from hms eagle and were the ones who realised they could operate in worse weather than standard carrier aircraft. (809 squadron Roland White)
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 2 жыл бұрын
The latest missile variant was an enormous help (thanks USA), I hope that gets a mention. Diplomacy and skullduggery was another front in the conflict. It did and Sharkey gets a line too, his book on the Sea Harrier combat air patrols is excellent.
@a41166
@a41166 2 жыл бұрын
Cierto, la entrega de los Sidewinders de última generación fue una ayuda enorme en la guerra de las Malvinas contra aviones que no tenían ni radio altímetro... Me pregunto qué habría pasado con los Harriers si los primos americanos no hubieran regalado los AIM-9L y además qué habría pasado en la 1ª y 2ª Guerra Mundial si no hubiera habido ayuda de los yankis...¿Eh? Recuerdos de Blas de Lezo para el "invencido" almirante Vernon...Los habitantes de las Islas Canarias y los de la ciudad de La Coruña también envían saludos y recuerdos al almirane Nelson...
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 2 жыл бұрын
@@a41166 esta pregunta no vale nada
@JamesNeave1978
@JamesNeave1978 2 жыл бұрын
@@RobBCactive What question?
@SNOWDONTRYFAN
@SNOWDONTRYFAN 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't see eye to eye with the carrier group admiral , who under estimated the aircrafts true potential as an air sentry
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 2 жыл бұрын
@@JamesNeave1978Looks like YT got rid of the very long off topic passive aggressive questions in Spanish. I guessed an Argie with some beef 😉😉 I speak Spanish but didn't want to waste any time
@hlynnkeith9334
@hlynnkeith9334 2 жыл бұрын
5:24 "One bomb cratered the runway [at Port Stanley]." Satellite reconnaissance provided the BDA for that bombing mission. Our post-war briefing reported that the sat-recce got it wrong. The Argentines painted the runway to look like it had been hit. In fact, the Argentine Air Force flew sorties to and from that airstrip until the end of the war. We had to improve our sat-recce to find ways to overcome phony images.
@hippopotamus86
@hippopotamus86 2 жыл бұрын
Can't find a single reliable source for this. Can you share a source?
@hlynnkeith9334
@hlynnkeith9334 2 жыл бұрын
@@hippopotamus86 Sorry, I cannot share my source for the BDA or the post-war brief. IIRC International Defense Review Magazine published a short piece on this in an issue in 1983. A quick search revealed that IDR ceased publishing in 1995. That the Argies continued to use the runway did not mean so much. The runway was too short to support Argentine Air Force jets. All the runway traffic was transport; that is, no combat aircraft. ETA: Royal Navy Task Force 317 -- the Falklands task force -- pulled ships from NATO duties. President Reagan ordered the US Navy to fill in for the Brits and fulfill their NATO commitments. Why do you think the Queen knighted Sir Ronnie? You may find it hard to discover public sources for this, too, but it is still true.
@rorigomazzuchini2324
@rorigomazzuchini2324 Жыл бұрын
@@hippopotamus86 El último HÉRCULES C130 argentino abandonó las islas el 14 de Junio de 1982 a las 00:00 horas llevando heridos y periodistas.
@anandmorris
@anandmorris Жыл бұрын
The Operations Room channel has an amazing video on the details of Operation Black Buck. Definitely worth a watch.
@timothymorehouse1255
@timothymorehouse1255 Жыл бұрын
Crazy epic footage almost feels unreal
@LeeTillbury
@LeeTillbury 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. The Rapier ground to air missiles were a great defence for the British too.
@mh53j
@mh53j Жыл бұрын
Didn't work all that well. Think it only accounted for 1 aircraft. There were problems getting them set up after the voyage and rough handling loading/unloading.
@LordKingPotato
@LordKingPotato 2 жыл бұрын
Sea Harrier was a legendary, multi role aircraft that showed who was boss.💪🇬🇧
@tims2501
@tims2501 2 жыл бұрын
Without US supplying sidewinders it would have been useless. Put the Harrier up against F-4 or F-14 with USN pilots.
@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii7738
@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii7738 2 жыл бұрын
@@tims2501 Bro who tf asked literally out here replying to every comment like ‘uGh AcTcHuAlLy tHe SiDeWiNdEr’ literally nobody cares you can keep telling yourself it was the Americans who saved us poor defenceless Brits all you want but at least shut up abt it
@urmum3773
@urmum3773 9 ай бұрын
​@@tims2501 At least you tried, yank. The F-4 and F-14 serve different purposes to the harrier, and the sidewinders were used just as conventional air to air missiles are used (straight from behind not from the side). British military training and tactics is indisputably (except for by insecure Anglophobes) more advanced than the American military, you train with us, not the other way round.
@MondoBeno
@MondoBeno Жыл бұрын
The Black Buck raid was meant as a deterrent. It was public knowledge that the Avro Vulcan was meant to drop bombs on the USSR, so by sending the bombers all the way to the Falklands, it might scare the Argentines.
@leejohnson3068
@leejohnson3068 Жыл бұрын
Plus the RAF felt left out and were fearful of the upcoming defence review/cuts
@driver2212
@driver2212 6 ай бұрын
And it did!! I would love to know whether "Blackbuck" was intended to scare Argentine aircraft into stay at home, or whether it was an unexpected Xmas present!😮
@LMays-cu2hp
@LMays-cu2hp 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@oldcremona
@oldcremona 2 жыл бұрын
I would think that the Argentine advantage in moustaches would have had a greater effect than it actually did.
@paganphil100
@paganphil100 2 жыл бұрын
Old Cremonia: The RAF had an advantage in Brylcreem (which can defeat any moustache) :-)
@weasel4060
@weasel4060 2 жыл бұрын
Our lads did a brilliant job! Rule Britannia!
@weasel4060
@weasel4060 2 жыл бұрын
we win we win!!
@rmstitanic8163
@rmstitanic8163 2 жыл бұрын
History has shown many times that it is not always about numbers. It's about professional military and planning. Something that Britain has shown to have many times.
@Randomhandlename
@Randomhandlename Жыл бұрын
Afghans have joined the chat
@davidwong6515
@davidwong6515 8 ай бұрын
@@Randomhandlename Afghans had their country occupied by an outside force thousands of miles away for 20 years.....that's a catastrophic failure
@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69
@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69 5 ай бұрын
Except in this case, the British actually outnumbered their Argentinian counterparts, as well as outgunned them. The Argentinians were conscripts, many of which were poorly trained and poorly armed, and much of Argentine's kit was in disrepair. The US, France, and Chile heavily supported the UK with weapons, fuel, HUMINT, SIGINT, and other ISR assets, and even hampered their ability to maintain, arm, and replace the Exocets they had through embargos and covert means.
@rmstitanic8163
@rmstitanic8163 5 ай бұрын
@@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69 Funny that, because I don't remember anyone helping the British. They sat back and watched us, to see how we would fair against the argies, baring in mind how far we had to go to deploy our military. Our Harriers, Vulcans, Warships and Cruise ships that were turned into troup ships, and our soldiers, airmen and navy were all British. Funny also that you mention America. The Argentinian ship Belgrano was originally American, of which the British destroyed with ease. And the Mirage fighters used by the Argies were French. People hate the British so much that they are always trying to put us down. But you can't. 🇬🇧
@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69
@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69 5 ай бұрын
@rmstitanic8163 except that's not how any of that happened, but nice try. The world certainly didn't sit back and watch. Chile provided ground intelligence and radar intelligence, allowing the UK to know troop movements and aircraft deployments. The United States not only refueled your ships, which were almost empty by the time they reached Ascension Island, but also provided Sidewinders from our own stocks, spy satellite intelligence, mortars, ammunition, refueling tankers, and even offered to loan you an aircraft carrier. The US also took over many of the UK's NATO duties in Europe so the UK could focus on the Falklands. The French also did their best to block the sale and repair of the Exocet missiles, including blocking the arming codes, forcing the Argentinians to have to guess half of the time. The Belgrano was an old, obsolete naval vessel from WWII, sold long before hostilities broke out between the UK and Argentina. I'm not sure why you're applauding that as some mean feat. The US Navy literally decimated Iran's Navy in four hours during Operation Praying Mantis. You spent the majority of your time losing several ships to two Argentinian pilots flying Entarnds. If so many try to put you guys down all the time, maybe you should look in the mirror and ask yourselves why that is. You're some of the most self-centered, egotistical, loud-mouthed, arrogant clowns I've ever come across. You make the loudest Americans look tame.
@HorsleyLandy88
@HorsleyLandy88 3 ай бұрын
I was at Portsmouth Poly at the time and we had the Harriers fly round the tower block on their way to the carriers, made it a bit more real.
@unscentednapalm8547
@unscentednapalm8547 2 жыл бұрын
So ..the RAF asked for the Vulcan back to fight in a war and you guys said 'no'? Wow.
@graveperil2169
@graveperil2169 2 жыл бұрын
if they really needed it they would have taken it, sound like they just raided it for parts and left the frame there
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 2 жыл бұрын
@@graveperil2169 exactly, I saw Vulcans on Lincolnshire bases just a few years earlier, I cannot believe the RAF were totally out of stock
@unscentednapalm8547
@unscentednapalm8547 2 жыл бұрын
@@graveperil2169 'the ministry of defence actually asked if they could have the Vulcan back'
@MinesAGuinness
@MinesAGuinness 2 жыл бұрын
@@Carlh2003 It's called humour, lad, and no more 'disappointing' than a joke about some kids asking their grumpy neighbour for their ball back. Paris Agar's a curator at the IWM, so it's within the bounds of reason to make a joke about the museum making a small fuss at the time about its property. British bureaucracy is renowned for such stickling over details. But nobody was suggesting that the incident resulted in the denial of vital materiel or risk to British forces. The MoD took the parts they needed.
@Carlh2003
@Carlh2003 2 жыл бұрын
@@MinesAGuinness "...but the museum managed to persuade them otherwise". Neither her choice of words nor her tone of voice implies a joke, sarcastic or otherwise. Perhaps your sense of humour is a little different to mine, lad.
@tonyjames5444
@tonyjames5444 2 жыл бұрын
The MI6 operation to monitor outgoing Argentine aircraft from the mainland was key to the UK's air superiority.
@biko331966
@biko331966 2 жыл бұрын
Chile's help was the key!!! every flight was informed to the fleet. UK provided a big radar and had personnel on site. Remember Maggie thanking to Pinochet in person!
@dogsnads5634
@dogsnads5634 Жыл бұрын
@@biko331966 The radar provided some coverage... But most air raid warning was from the patrol line of 5 SSN's doing signals intercept off the Argentinian coast. They piced up radio chatter from airfields and from Air to Air refueling operations.
@arthurblundell6128
@arthurblundell6128 Жыл бұрын
One of the British ships (hms glasgow) picked up a signal they knew well, the exocet, but hms sheffield was incommunicado, sending data and unable to receive a warning
@harosokman
@harosokman Жыл бұрын
Blackbuck is an operation that will go down in history, where the physical effect is vastly dwarfed by the operational affect. A few holes in a runway which can be repaired, meant dozens of aircraft being withdrawn and the balance of air-power being transferred.
@Evergleam
@Evergleam 2 жыл бұрын
The Argentines didn't "just" surrender. They killed and were killed. This misses the biggest parts of the bloodiest of the battles. God rest all of the souls left died there in that soil
@stephenphillip5656
@stephenphillip5656 2 жыл бұрын
If ever you needed proof of the saying "It's not the size of the dog in the fight which counts, it's the size of the fight in the dog" this is it. The air battle was hard won (& I pay due respect to the Argentine air force here) but not for the first time in our history, British land, sea & air forces proved that adaptability, training & dedication count for more than sheer numbers. The Harrier won its spurs as well. Britain received much help from America, Chile and France (who I understand prevented Argentina from replacing missiles & spares for aircraft) & other friendly nations but a British victory still wasn't a "done deal".
@jetpigeon8758
@jetpigeon8758 2 жыл бұрын
Although the Royal Navy did indeed suffer some loses, many years later information was released from the Ministry of Defence, that should it look likely that the British forces would lose the war in the Falklands, there was a signed document with plans to attack Buenos Aires with a nuclear device. Fortunately this was not required. In Britain government documents are not allowed to be released to the public/press until a certain number of years have passed, I think it is 25 or 30 years, and this information was brought to light.
@el_Contra
@el_Contra 2 жыл бұрын
@@jetpigeon8758 that is such a ridiculous statement, the city (and in the rest of Argentina) at that time had a huge english population, many economic interests owned by them... a lot of property owned by even english royals...
@CaptainCarling
@CaptainCarling Жыл бұрын
I was 9 years old during this war and didn't pay much attention as a child. It's interesting now listening to how it unfolded
@davegregory4291
@davegregory4291 Жыл бұрын
Full respect for pilots on both sides, just a great shame it had to happen.
@zacksung11
@zacksung11 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Though I'm sad so little time was spent discussing Operation Black Buck and the Vulcans involved. And I would like to hear the story of a Vulcan that landed in Brazil after completing a Black Buck raid. Especially interested at how the Brazillians thought of the Vulcan and the war itself.
@indigohammer5732
@indigohammer5732 2 жыл бұрын
That particular Vulcan is at East Fortune, just outside Edinburgh. I visited the Museum a few years ago, and on the fuselage is painted a little Brazilian flag and two silhouettes of missiles with Argentinian flags. These are to mark the aircraft firing two anti radar missiles at Argentinian air defence, and it's "internment" in Brazil. Well worth a visit. Awesome aircraft.
@stuartjoseph3438
@stuartjoseph3438 2 жыл бұрын
Black Buck was a stupid pointless PR excercise nothing more. Simply an excuse for those moronic incompetent RAF dimwit to get in on the act. Utterly pointless, costly and wholly ineffective.
@graveperil2169
@graveperil2169 2 жыл бұрын
@@indigohammer5732 the US was less than please on us losing their cutting edge missiles
@indigohammer5732
@indigohammer5732 2 жыл бұрын
@@graveperil2169 Oops! At least the Argentinians got the good news!
@Soulflytribe04
@Soulflytribe04 2 жыл бұрын
My father used to tell me that story when I was a kid here in Brazil. The plane was intercepted and then landed in Rio. The other option for them was to eject above the sea and then lose the Vulcan. There are interviews with the Brazilian pilots who intercepted it, and they were pretty impressed with the Vulcan. I've always seen Brazilians side with the UK on that war, of course we have the communists who side with Argentina, but they are not the average man. The Falklands are British and I hope our PHM-Atlantico gives support to the Royal Navy if the Argies invade sovereign land again.
@truckerfromreno
@truckerfromreno 2 жыл бұрын
The Vulcan bombing raid was just breathtaking.
@SpookyFox1000
@SpookyFox1000 2 жыл бұрын
So British !
@chrisgs8727
@chrisgs8727 Жыл бұрын
and useless
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