Fall In 2023 Convention Recap

"Fall In" is one of the largest historical wargaming shows in the USA, and the 2023 show was a blast! The convention was well attended and we saw some fantastic games when several of the Little Wars TV guys stopped by on Saturday. We hit the vendor hall, raided the flea market, met old friends from across the country, and filmed more than a few memorable games. In this video report, we bring you a tiny slice of the weekend festivities.
And is truly is just a snapshot of the vast number of games and events being run from Thursday through Sunday. If you want the full HMGS show experience...come visit one! The crowds at these conventions enthusiastic and exceptionally welcoming to gamers of any experience level.
Fall In 2023 was held at the Wyndham in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. All of us who attended this show owe a huge "thanks" to the volunteer staff of HMGS, the Historical Miniatures Gaming Society, for putting on another successful convention. We'll see you all at Historicon next summer! Mark your calendars!

[@j.b.macadam6516]

Thanks guys! I just opened a game shop and your videos inspire me to put on better games in order to attract both old and new gamers! Keep up the great work!

[@LittleWarsTV]

That’s awesome! Good luck with the shop! Hope it’s a great success!

[@AusHammer40k]

Where is it located and what’s the name?

[@andrewtodd5919]

Tony is not only humble he is a world class philanthropist tutored by Miles lol good stuff guys

[@natewatts195]

I learned that Miles is a lot taller in person. That’s my main take away this convention.

[@LittleWarsTV]

We edit him in post to look 5’ tall in order to help keep his ego cut down to size

[@milesreidy7864]

@@LittleWarsTV lifts

[@ericfarrington366]

I love Force-on-Force. Thanks for showing Martin's game! Also surprised to see the old All Quiet on the Martian Front and in such quantity.

[@LittleWarsTV]

David spent years assembling the necessary minis!

[@flashgordon1262]

55 days at peking..must have seen that movie 6 times will watch it another 6 i would imagen.

[@dutchgijoe]

Yeah must have watched the movie at least 15 times and it is right here on YT.

[@flashgordon1262]

Its a classic!@@dutchgijoe

[@inplumbumnosfides3883]

Tony. Investments? Priceless. Though you either intentionally or accidentally failed to mention whether they were profitable or not. You should offer your consulting services to gamers who are having “investment “ issues with their significant others and credit card companies. Nice work boys. Cheers.

[@peteenglish8773]

Great convention, wonderful recap.

[@orthoff123]

Thank you Guys! Greetings from Germany!

[@LittleWarsTV]

Always fun to hear from gamers around the world! Thanks for popping over Orthoff!

[@lorenzovive5801]

From this day forward, I will gladly use the word, "invest" when I go to the dealer hall at Historicon.

[@kwinland]

Saturday seemed a bit light, but Friday was PACKED with people and games. I had a GREAT time, as always. GREAT venue. I will miss Cold Wars being cancelled this year, but Historicon is only 8 months away.... Good showing by dealers this weekend as well.

[@gmnotyet]

Lancaster, PA is where I used to order APBA sports games from back in the 80s.

[@rcgunner7086]

I really enjoyed myself too. It was a great con with lots of cool games. I do wish I got into that great looking All Quiet on the Martian Front game. The extras- a land ironclad carrier, biplanes, and human mecha just looked amazing! I bet they had a blast. I personally enjoyed learning about Heavy Gear and getting in several games of it. Easily one of my best HMGS con experiences ever. Next time I'll keep an eye open for you guys.

[@LittleWarsTV]

Glad to hear you had a good con! Seemed like another enthusiastic crowd. See you at HCON!

[@hamsteronthepaintingtable6465]

Invested LOL!!! 👍

[@tadcoder2848]

LONG LIVE THE NERDS !!!!!!!

[@ZeththeVile]

This was a great convention! My son Liam was through the roof when you guys remembered him. Love the content. Keep doing what you do and be blessed guys!

[@LittleWarsTV]

Great to see you guys at the show! Liam’s hat has gotten some wear and tear!

[@cavemanbum]

2:16 - The Star Wars miniatures being used here were the ones from West End Games Star Wars Miniatures Battles from 1990 and its Companion in 1994. The minis were sold in boxed sets and blister packs; although marketed as 25mm, they were definitely smaller. WEG's Star Wars Miniatures was winner of the 1991 Origins Award for Best New Miniatures Rules.

[@LittleWarsTV]

Thanks for the scoop on this! We were wondering!

[@cavemanbum]

Happy to help. I know tons about that rules set (having purchased it in the mid-1990s), but I never could get anyone in my gaming circle to play it with me. 😭@@LittleWarsTV

[@greyjedi4794]

Also... Varus minis has some 15mms STL files for Star Wars

[@Rothgar68]

Perhaps the Bantha was, but the rest of the minis were from not West End Games. Some were from Galoob's Micro Machines line of Star Wars miniatures.

[@garyclarkson5246]

So is it the opinion of most people that this was the rule set for the Star Wars game?@@LittleWarsTV

[@duffymakowski5400]

Nice video! That Star Wars game might have been the old West End Games miniatures game. I dont remember the scale, but the pieces look like it. Thanks for sharing! 🍻

[@underarmbowlingincidentof1981]

Saw the thumbnail and thought "That can't be a 28mm 55 days at Peking game..." Amazing!!!

[@kevenpinder7025]

I went, determined not to spend a dime. At Diabolical I found a 28mm Caribbean pirate fortress I had been coveting since I saw it in the artwork in the Blood And Plunder rules set. I tried to get one years ago, but cost and availability convinced me it was simply never gonna happen. They made me an offer I could not refuse. 😊😊😊

[@LittleWarsTV]

Hahah you are not alone Keven. It’s hard to get out of there without some toys in tow

[@milesreidy7864]

@@LittleWarsTV how in the heck did I walk away with 4 boxes of 28mm plastic Byzantines?

[@baliusd]

Big fan of All Quite on the Martian Front. The Con looked fun. I haven't made a Fall in yet, but might see you guys at Historicon next year. I'm going to start using the term "Investment" .

[@lordhamster9452]

Martian front looks very cool. Never took the plunge myself but perhaps in the future. How is it? Dad says that the stuff I paint is too darn tiny to see and soon, I won’t be able to see it too. So perhaps Tripods = future retreat point?

[@baliusd]

@@lordhamster9452 They have a new Kickstarter to re-release the game. The models are big, but not as big as the first release. You can get the STL files and make them as big as you want I guess.

[@StormofSteelWargaming]

Great update, it's always interesting to see the shows on the other side of the pond!

[@tonymarano913]

When are making the trek?

[@StormofSteelWargaming]

when I can convince the wife...@@tonymarano913

[@BoysOfCinnamonCat]

Looks like fun!

[@bigsarge2085]

Dang, wish we could have made it! Looks like a blast.

[@antoniomendoza2682]

That's the way to start a video. Great music! Thanks for sharing this. A lot of good stuff

[@LittleWarsTV]

Thanks! It’s fun sourcing music. KZbin makes it pretty easy with a library of free songs

[@anathardayaldar]

Every one of those games masters should have made a video of their playthrough and posted it on their yt channel, or leased the recording to LWTV for their quality editing and revenue sharing. Then we can all enjoy those amazing setups.

[@LittleWarsTV]

We’d be sharing literal nickels of wealth! Haha. KZbin ad revenue is so pathetic that we usually just disable it intentionally. It’s not even worth the viewing hassle. It would take a lot of manpower to film entire convention games, and the audio would be a disaster (way too loud in these spaces), but the sentiment is certainly shared. There are so many cool games to see and it would be great to find ways to share more of them beyond the peeks we show

[@markbrown8154]

So that's what I tell my Wife. It's an INVESTMENT. Great video guys.

[@seanmcbride8]

Barons’ War is great.

[@JonSteitzer]

Great coverage. I spent more than I meant to! I mean.... invested!

[@LittleWarsTV]

Tony and Miles coined a new euphemism for us all!

[@jwhippet8313]

The Peiking game looks so dope.

[@jakubkorenko]

Looks fantastic!🤩

[@jameswhite8238]

Looks like a great convention!

[@105Gunner]

Are y’all going to be at Pax Unplugged in December? Also can you recommend a website that lists when/where shows like this are being held in the US? Thanks for the continued great content!

[@LittleWarsTV]

A couple guys might be there, but the channel won’t have a presence at Pax this year. Scheduling conflicts!

[@lordhamster9452]

I can’t not say it but Greg looks like a resistance fighter NPC from Half Life 2 in this one. Seriously, the hat and the jacket makes him look like an unreleased character model. Perfect. Also Damn those tripods and land dreads look cool. I feel pretty bad that I have a land-ship project already, since there’s an new expansion for Martian front coming out. (With cool new Jerries) You gotta pick your battles I guess.

[@MrGunnar177]

Someday I’ll make it to a hmgs show!

[@flashgordon1262]

looks good!

[@GreyhawkGrognard]

This was the first HMGS con I've been at in years where I didn't get to play one of your games. 😞

[@LittleWarsTV]

This is the first show in many years that we didn’t run anything! Just there to browse. Challenging scheduling weekend for a number of reasons. But we will no doubt be back in force at Historicon!

[@TheRendar]

Great video !

[@LittleWarsTV]

Thanks Matt! It was a great show and fun to wander about seeing old friends and new games

[@3tacoman]

Greg looks high ! Hell ya !

[@indianajon7980]

There are some amazing tables there! Wow! Bizarre pronouncination of Colloden though.

[@LittleWarsTV]

We have a long standing reputation to uphold for bizarre pronunciations around here.

[@kellydavis3108]

So good to see the covid going away and cons coming back

[@john-peterhundt5662]

Dan at 8;40

[@Simon-gp2zw]

I'm 58 and still love toy soldiers.. The miniature ones though

[@JackieItaleri]

Nice

[@joey1475]

Great video! Where can I find conventions near me?? Would love to attend some in the future (west coast/ CA)

[@tonymarano913]

Check out hmgs-psw they organize cons in the CA area

[@belligerent19]

Should come to adepticon

[@LittleWarsTV]

Yes, yes we should!

[@michaelmay5120]

Looks like a lot of fun! I'll be missing our Millennium Gaming Convention in Texas this year. Now I don't want to poop on anyone's party, but I think I saw a tv broadcasting a football game @ 5:35. A tv broadcast of anything during a miniatures game would be a major distraction, for me at least. Otherwise, great looking tables and minis!

[@LittleWarsTV]

Same! College football on in the background is a problem!

[@davefranklin4136]

Purchase vs. investment - nice rationalization! Reminds me of a response the question, I'm contemplating getting into 25/28mm Napoleonics, what do you think? Response: I'd recommend a serious recreational drug habit instead, it will be cheaper in the long run...

[@LicensedTerrorist]

This convention looks so good! I wish I was there. Also how do you know if you won the minis from the peleliu game?

[@LittleWarsTV]

We made public comments in reply to every winner from last weeks PicoArmor giveaway!

[@LicensedTerrorist]

@LittleWarsTv Thanks for the info, but that also means I didn't win damn 😔

[@terryd7852]

Re 5:32 Nice to hear you call it an "American Revolution" game & not the often used "American War of Independence". We'll make Brits of you all yet!☂👍

[@LittleWarsTV]

Back in the day, that’s what we used to call it in school textbooks! The whole “American War of Independence” lingo is a more recent push. 20 years ago in school it was just “the Revolution.”

[@tonymarano913]

Ha, I'm old enough to be taught that it was The Revolution. We only added "American" when we found out that other coyntries were copying the idea 😅

[@fariswolven]

Super curious what the ruleset was like for the 15 mm Star Wars

[@LittleWarsTV]

Didn’t catch that. If anyone knows, please chime in! Table was super cool and the scale was eye catching.

[@Rothgar68]

Those are house rules I made based on a set of pod racing rules, which was a modded version of X-wing miniature rules.

[@Rothgar68]

Thanks to Little Wars TV for the shout out! I'm still working on the rules, but I'll make them available when they are ready. I'll be running it again at H-con and possibly Muster.

[@gamerhalim4717]

I want visit to see gameplay, respect from Indonesia 🇮🇩

[@CesarIsaacPerez]

What's the name of that War of the worlds game?!!! And where can I get it. Looked like something I want to check out!

[@jasonthayer762]

Dang! Where can I see that Helm's Deep game!?!

[@LittleWarsTV]

It was so cool. Chris will surely bring that to future shows. He did an amazing job with the custom terrain and armies. Lingered there checking it out for awhile

[@BootsontheTable]

That 55 day’s game looked amazing 😮

[@AngryDogPerformance]

Would be cool to do a time-travel battle. 50 marines vs 1 roman leigon???

[@savagex466-qt1io]

Did I miss something ! ? No warhammer 40k or age of sigmar ? 40k is my favorite sci fi of all time and the best table top game iv played. The only I dont like about it is the price lol That War of the Worlds looks wicked !

[@LIR_Clarkey_Boy]

0:03 Maine uber alles!

[@eugenioderevell3826]

Praying you someday try to give it a taste to the xix century pacific war!

[@panagiotisgkotsis2518]

❤🇬🇷❤

[@Mikedadof2]

I play flames of war, but not much available too buy in my town

[@farpointgamingdirect]

They need to keep those damn dealers open until the con officially closes. I could only come up on Sunday and it was a wasted trip from Baltimore

[@LittleWarsTV]

HMGS does try to insist on dealers staying through Sunday, but some do load out a bit early. I get it-Sunday is usually a slow day for them and some travel quite far to get to the shows. Friday is often the busiest day in the dealer hall, followed by Saturdays

[@liamfishwick2943]

Il love to see more of the 10mm lord of the rings game. Does Chris have an Instagram page or other socials, if so please send me the details.

[@warrenbruhn5888]

Any Pulp Alley played there?

[@jarrodeverhart9072]

Where is this located?

[@CrichtonNo5]

Christ lads, you love to drink "scotch" but you butchered the name "Culloden" there, didn't ya 🤣 Crackin wee video though, wish I'd been there!

[@LittleWarsTV]

We drink Scotch, but we don’t live there!

[@CrichtonNo5]

@@LittleWarsTV clearly 🤣

[@tonymarano913]

Well then, you should come over for Historicon. We'll drink whiskey til the wee hours & you can help us with our pronunciation

[@CrichtonNo5]

@@tonymarano913 I don't think I need to. You guys were entirely capable of pronouncing Zulu language names on your excellent Isandhlwana video, a Scottish one should be easy peasy for you. Unfortunately I only drink whisky, but thanks for the offer. Keep up the good work, love your videos. Nice to see you can take a bit of banter too 😉

[@dcb5176]

The game shown at 3:50 is NOT Volley and Bayonet, but Carnage and Glory Computer Moderated.

[@LittleWarsTV]

Oddly, the sign at the table said “Volley and Bayonet Rules.”

[@dcb5176]

Didn't see the sign but the units all have CG number tags. I have never seen a Volley and Bayonet game with unit tags.@@LittleWarsTV

[@northernpaladin66]

Crowds seem thin?

[@sebastienhardinger4149]

Hello - do you have any information you could pass me about the Wargaming Association of Metropolitan Philadelphia? I'm in the area and am looking for people to play with

[@martynkelly6918]

W.A.M.P along with several other wargaming groups have a games day held at Covenant United Methodist Church, 212 W Springfield Rd, Springfield PA 19064 once a month on a Saturday. The next one is the 18th Nov and the following one is 2nd December. The time is 9am - 7pm. The cost is $5 for the day. Just show up and introduce yourself.

[@sebastienhardinger4149]

Oh that's fantastic, I don't have a car but that's right off the 101 trolley. Do you have any contact information you could pass along? Wouldn't want to show up cold!@@martynkelly6918

[@ethanmcfarland8240]

I would go, but I’m seventeen so I think I would be kinda out of place

[@LittleWarsTV]

No sir! Plenty of teenagers here actually. It’s an older crowd overall, but lots of kids younger than 17. There are guys playing games as young as 10 I’d say. And everyone is very welcoming and encouraging of younger gamers. I was attending HMGS shows at 14 when my parents had to drive me and drop me off for the day!

[@tonymarano913]

You would not be out of place at all

[@animationground3412]

Мужики такие типо: "да нет у нас никакой депрессии", а потом устраивают такое

[@basileusp5494]

Tell us more about your Byzantine project and also the Castle project.

[@JPGotrokkits]

25mm Star Wars, not 15mm. Back then 25mm was 25mm, scale creep is the bane of our hobby.

[@Rothgar68]

Those are 15mm minis in my Star Wars game.

[@divafever9754]

Why didn't you take any footage of all the attractive young women there?

[@Poshypaws]

CollUden

[@davidbirt4643]

Oooo listen to you yanks talking in mm,s . Metric 😮 it makes sense.

[@kobicaruthers]

Where is this located?

[@LittleWarsTV]

This show is held in Pennsylvania each year