Fall Lawn Care Program - My Fall Lawn Application

[@kevinb.4271]

I'm using Coastal here in the DFW Texas area, it has Prodiamine, Simazine, and Imazaquin. I tried it for the first time last fall with very good results, I'm running behind this season so I'll still be applying in November, depending on the results of the late applications, this just might be my go-to spring and fall service.

[@mirabify]

I hope your subs appreciate all the tips and advice you give and the time you save them from having to learn all this info on their own!

[@lawncarelife]

+Simple Steve thank you. Glad the videos are helpful

[@grassmonkeylawncare6056]

in the case of many people out there overseeding is going on, when you can apply the fall application to not affect the new grass.

[@grassmonkeylawncare6056]

we have cool season grass up here in kansas, would you use it in the spring when putting down the first treatment in feb.

[@timryan1360]

You can use Tupersan as a pre for crab grass and seed into it. You can use quinclorac to kill germinated grabgrass without killing the lawn (need MSO). I spot spray as a homeowner. Not professionally. Takes time, but I mix my own. Allows for seeding while preventing and killing. I use 2,4-d throughout the year through ortho line asa spot spray, but if its only a couple danelions? Steak knife and pull. My back yard needs a different plan of attack than the front, but slowly catching the back up to the front. Cant wait for Spring 18. Mine is mostly fescue with rye and blue mixed in. Northern KY.

[@gradyconnell1449]

Jason I really like your Channel I've learned a lot what would you recommend to spray on centipede grass in the fall for fall weeds thanks.

[@gaucho5204]

Thanks for doing it! you're really an awesome guy ,I'm ordering the stuff in the video now, I didn't even know about summer and Winter weeds. thanks a lot! I really appreciate it,have a good one!!!

[@jonathans1472]

I am in Texas. I really Iike MSM that you recommended versus 2,4D. I find it kills clover a lot better. When I use 2,4D, it just seems to stunt the clover. Thanks for your help. I have learned so much from you.

[@a-veteranlandscapesitework2413]

I'm in Texas, I appreciate the advice. Few You-tubers are in Texas.

[@lawncarelife]

I am in Alabama but I imagine we deal with many of the same types of grasses and weeds

[@fixitmekanik412]

Thanks Jason, always enjoy the video! I'm currently renovating my lawn. Cool season though, but I always enjoy hearing 'whats in the tank'....

[@lawncarelife]

Thanks for the comment. Some people think there is one magic product in the tank but it is usually a combination. We have very little cool season grass. Just too hot in the summer

[@davidflippin7173]

I'm in the panhandle area of Texas and we are already going dormat

[@markgray2931]

Jason for the Princep Liquid Herbicide what is the ounces per gallon mixture. I have a 5G sprayer. The mixing instructions refers to acres and large containers for commercial use presumably.

[@AlexB-bb5mm]

I need to try princep out on my lawn sometime. I get poa bad in my yard so that stuff should help it. Whats the shelf life on it?

[@butch7384]

I just put down pre emergent for the first time ever. Found some Halts granules. Hopefully that'll help me get some control over weeds in my weed lot, aka lawn.

[@lawncarelife]

Sometimes a lawn can make an amazing turnaround rather quickly.

[@jabirmuhajidel-beychristop487]

Great info ...would like to know if any special license requirement to spread and spray fertilizer ... What certifications do you hold ? Jibril El-Bey Paradise Turf Care

[@lambert1702]

Jason, do you ever put down preemergent (more likely in spring) that targets broad leaf weeds like chamber bitter and Virginia buttonweed? Gallery maybe?

[@lawncarelife]

+lambert1702 I use the same pre emergent in the spring though I don't think it has much affect on those two weeds. Changeup is good for both of those weeds as a post emergent

[@lambert1702]

Thanks Jason.

[@ChrisXCXCX]

Do you walk spray lawns or hop on a z spray?

[@koomo801]

For a homeowner, would it be a little better to apply prodiamine in late August to mid September (it has a long lasting effect) and do the Princep later (maybe mid October to early November) since it doesn’t last as long? Thanks as always for your helpful advice!

[@harryl7946]

Good stuff Jason!! Thanks!!

[@jeremiahkendrick5366]

Why prodiamine in fall it's mainly good for crabgrass only?

[@jimmyraney6931]

Jason I put out Barricade granulated a couple of days ago to prevent the PO Anna from germinating. Yesterday and today we received about 4 inches of rain and tonight it is suppose to get down to The lower 50 rain tomorrow again then get in the 40’s by Monday! Should I worry about putting down more pre- emergent or is it to late! I am assuming that the Barricade got washed away!

[@lawncarelife]

I wouldn't think the barricade got washed away but that still doesn't mean that you might not have some poa. It's possible that some of the poa has already germinated before you applied and it's also possible that some poa will still not be stopped by using barricade. We usually add simazine with the pre-emergent to help control poa

[@eliteoutdoors2748]

We've found Specticle does a much more effective job on most cool season weed prevention when applied at the right time. Prodiamine will let some of that Poa through. It's an expensive application but Specticle at 6-8oz per acre will save you a lot of headaches come March and April!

[@lawncarelife]

+Elite Outdoors thanks for the comment. I am planning on using spectacle on about half of my properties this fall. Looking forward to seeing the difference. Do you notice a difference on other weeds other than poa?

[@eliteoutdoors2748]

Lawn Care Life yes absolutely. We are about 20 miles north of Atlanta. It's VERY obvious around here come spring time which properties had Specticle applied. Timing is everything as I'm sure you know. It's already a couple weeks late to be most effective on annual grassy weeds for my area. Specticle is very broad spectrum and has a long residual so it has allowed us to eliminate the pridiamine we would normally add to our late November round. We get the last of our Specticle down by September 1 and do not apply any other pre emergent until dimension in early February. This along with proper nutrition and post emergent control has given us 100% clean Bermuda grass in spring/early summer

[@lawncarelife]

+Elite Outdoors that is great to hear. This year should allow me to see the difference between specticle and prodiamine. If my results are as good as yours then I may switch to 100% specticle next year. At least on my Bermuda lawns, which for me is about 80% of my customers. Do you think specticle also helps with burnweed the following spring? I have heard mixed reports on that

[@eliteoutdoors2748]

Lawn Care Life burnweed has not been a problem at all for us. It's hard to say if it's due to the Specticle or the Dimension and barricade we use in early spring since burnweed typically germinates in the spring.

[@lawncarelife]

+Elite Outdoors okay. Thanks for the info

[@joannabrister3384]

Good info, but a little to technical for me. Thank you for sharing. Good info.

[@ericsopp3962]

What do you think about a 0-0-60 pot ash application on warm season grasses as fall comes around? I've seen some sources (NC State) recommend this. I imagine this helps to improve diesease resistance during winter dormancy?

[@lawncarelife]

+Eric Sopp not sure about that one

[@harryl7946]

Clemson University Extension says to lay down 0-0-50 or 0-0-60 at least 6 weeks BEFORE the first frost. Mine went down 2 weeks ago. I live in Columbia, SC. My turf is Centipede grass. My rate for 0-0-60 was 1.6 lbs per 1k sq/ft. Check with your local Extension office to be sure where you live.

[@ericsopp3962]

I'm in Raleigh and have Zenith Zoysia. I just put mine down as well. 1.6 lb per 1k sqft.

[@harryl7946]

Eric Sopp Have you set any dates for your spring app of pre em yet? I'm shooting for 1st or 2nd weekend in Feb then a core aerate and over seed about 9 weeks later but just not too sure if that's enough time after the pre em goes down. Any thoughts? My fall app went down today. Might do another December 9th

[@ericsopp3962]

Harry Pouncey not sure on a date yet, but I better get it right. I didn't use pre this past spring since I did a lawn rehab by seed. The crabgrass was insane and I was amazed at how much it can take over. It was a real battle.

[@chadlindsley1970]

So you mix all these together in your sprayer? I'm asking because I just purchased the suggested chemicals and I am ready to apply. Just want to make sure they work together.

[@lawncarelife]

Yes, I mix them all together

[@Grassology-vs1hn]

Jason, What can input down right me to push growth? I'm in Long Island New York I just over seeded and aerate and put down Milorgranite

[@lavalleeturfcare7523]

Curious.. Up here in the north we're in full swing aer/seed season.. If you do 2 pre-emergent apps a year, where in that schedule do you fit in aeration season?

[@lawncarelife]

Aeration is not a standard part of the program here. Some companies offer it, others don't. I think most people aerate in the spring here. Because we have warm season grasses that go dormant in the winter, there is not much overseeding going on in the fall. I do 3 pre emergent apps. One in the fall, one in January/feb, and one in march/april

[@lavalleeturfcare7523]

Ahh.. I see. Aeration season = $$

[@straightfromthefield7244]

Is that simazine safe on bermuda or zoysia? I never used simazine, but know that atrazine will injure both turf types.

[@hughbo52]

What kind of application rate??? Please!!!

[@fordguyfordguy]

I can appreciate the high-tech mechanical churning and agitation in your high tech tank. :) But I have you beat by a mile - I chug along, jerking my 25 gallon tank in little herky-jerky movements, back and forth like a topwater lure zig zagging across the lawn, to the point where my whole apparatus is begging to fly apart. It is constantly agitated, and so are my innards as I ride my mower.

[@kareemgibson6984]

Can you do a video of you actually mixing the chemical accordingly to the label and actually spraying it.

[@lawncarelife]

+Kareem Gibson good suggestion. I can try to do that

[@kareemgibson6984]

Lawn Care Life thanks I really think the people would appreciate that.

[@coachmaxton]

What app rate do you use for each?

[@kimberlystanley2965]

Can I put milorganite on my grass now...I live in michigan?

[@lawncarelife]

+Kimberly Stanley I don't see a problem with that

[@bignbeefy9378]

Any day is good for milorganite

[@barrywuthrich8530]

Thanks for the info. I started buying my fertilizer for the year at Wal-Mart in Sept., when it goes on clearance. My yard is 1/2 acre with fruit trees. I got 33lb bags of 13-13-13 for $2.00, 40 lb bags of 10-10-10 for $2.50, and 12.5 lb bags of Bayer 35-0-3 3 in 1 Weed and Feed (6 months weed barrier) for $5.. So I basically bought around $350 worth of fertilizer for $60. I just put down the Bayer, hoping the weed barrier will work as my pre-emergent for the winter. I have enough Bayer left to use it again in March. The active ingredients are Dicamba acid, Penoxulam, and Indaziflam. Do you think I will be disappointed with this product?

[@lawncarelife]

+Barry Wuthrich sounds like you got a great deal. Looks like the Bayer product has both a pre and post emergent in it. I am not familiar with that particular product so I don't have an opinion on it. I would like to hear how it works for you

[@barrywuthrich8530]

I'll try and remember to follow up with you. I had a lot of clover and crabgrass this year for the first time, due to some really dumb mistakes I made last year with the lawn. Never had that problem before and never put down pre or post emergent or much fertilizer. So I'm in repair mode.

[@bassmaster1953]

The Specticle Flo is the way to go.

[@lawncarelife]

It is expensive but i have been impressed with the results

[@maryharris2871]

Thank you.

[@treymatlock3775]

Live in Hoover, I put down Scott's Halt in September..but have Poa exposed..so the Princep will kill what I have now? I have zoysia.

[@lawncarelife]

It is probably too late for princep to get the poa now. Revolver is the best option I know of for post emergent poa control but it is expensive. High rate of celsius has been said to work also. Tribute total should also work. None of those are cheap to buy

[@rbljackson]

Jason, am I too late to get the pre em out for my fall treatment? its October 11th here, and temps are getting into the 40s at night here in West Texas. I REALLY want to improve my lawn quality next year and had a bad POA and crabgrass problem this season. I want to step it up in 2018. Thanks!

[@lawncarelife]

+rbljackson if you are having night temperatures in the 40s then most likely some cool season weeds have already germinated but that does not mean it would not be worth putting down a pre-emergent. And you can still prevent some that have not germinated yet. Also by adding post-emergent to the mix you can hopefully control some of the weeds that have already germinated

[@markhitchens7629]

I had new sod laid on July 21 (zeon zoysia). Would it be ok to put Barricade down to stop the winter weeds on sod that has been down 8 to 9 weeks?

[@lawncarelife]

I would check to make sure it is rooted well. You can wait longer to make sure it is rooted or just wait until spring if you don't want to take any chances with new sod. If you wait until spring, you will probably have some cool season weeds pop up buy that's not a big deal in the long run

[@gradyconnell1449]

I live in South Georgia Jackson thanks

[@4engle]

Centipede...what are effective alternatives for 2,4-D?

[@lawncarelife]

+4engle I use trimec southern along with prodiamine and simazine

[@jonmernick780]

what about applying roundup for lawns?

[@lawncarelife]

I would have to check the active ingredients on that but I am sure it will get some weeds. I don't think it contains a pre-emergent. I believe it is just post

[@brad9662]

Can Celsius, Prodiamine and 2,4 D be tank mixed together and applied all at the same time?

[@lawncarelife]

+Bradley Jones I would need to check the labels on those products. I typically don't tank mix Celsius because it is more expensive. I usually spot treat with it

[@harryl7946]

Lawn Care Life You got that right Jason!! Money is spelled C E L S I U S !!!

[@brotherslawncare4041]

Isn't princep a pre emergent ?

[@lawncarelife]

+Brothers Lawn Care I think it has some pre and post-emergent qualities. The main reason I am using it is to try to kill any poa annua that has already germinated at the time of my application

[@brotherslawncare4041]

Ok, read some of that last night. When your mixing up your tanks, what kind of rate are you mixing the two. Full label rates or half rate on each one? Have poa pretty bad in one yard and it's an acre

[@lawncarelife]

+Brothers Lawn Care 2 pints per acre on princep. 2 pints per acre on 2 4 D. As for the prodiamine, I use half of the annual max rate in my fall application

[@brotherslawncare4041]

Ok, wht do you put down for winter application, late January/early February

[@lawncarelife]

+Brothers Lawn Care prodiamine, atrazine, triplet. That is for Bermuda and Zoysia lawns. There are different programs for different grass types

[@armandolanda5082]

What impact does 2,4d have on st augustine grass,

[@lawncarelife]

+armando landa 2 4D is not labeled for St Augustine so I do not spray it. I would imagine it would cause some discoloration at the very least

[@strongarmlandscaping257]

What gpm gun are you using while applying this mixture??

[@lawncarelife]

+Strong Arm Landscaping I use a Lesco spray gun with a green nozzle. Currently I am calibrated at 2 gallons per thousand square feet

[@maryharris2871]

is there a seed for St Agustin grass. Im from south Texas and I had some weeds growing so i got something to kill them , and so did my grass.. Any thoughts. Thank you

[@SherrodX]

Mary Harris St Augustine doesn't come in seed form. It comes in the form of sod or plugs

[@barrywuthrich8530]

Mary, You have to use weed killer in early spring, before temps get above 85 degrees. You can probably use it again in a few weeks as we cool down. Otherwise, you're gonna kill your St Augustine grass. It has a broader leaf than bermuda.

[@coronadowalter]

What can I used to kill minblewill weed in Bermuda grass?

[@lawncarelife]

Not sure on that one. Sorry

[@davejcarroll]

Love the videos, can we get to the point

[@jordangolson4508]

What part of Alabama are you in? Would love to have you look at my lawn

[@lawncarelife]

+Jordan Golson I am just north of Birmingham. Where do you live?

[@jordangolson4508]

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