FALLOUT 1x8 REACTION | The Beginning episode 8

The Beginning - Lucy and Norm, independently, learn the truth of the war, while the Ghoul also reminisces about that truth. Pre-War, Cooper eavesdrops on Barb and her colleague, Bud Askins, to his horror learning they are explicitly managing Vault-Tec's plans to start a nuclear war to eliminate its competitors. Cooper also meets young Betty Pearson and Hank MacLean. Norm discovers Vault 31 contains the cryogenically stored junior executives of Vault-Tec, overseen by the cyborg brain-on-wheels of Bud, who traps Norm in Vault 31. Lucy turns the head over to Moldaver, who reveals that Rose had fled Vault 33 with her children years earlier. Hank tracked her down and was responsible for the nuclear bombing of Shady Sands, turning Rose into a feral ghoul. Maximus is forgiven by the Brotherhood and joins the battle against Moldaver's forces. Lucy convinces Hank to give Moldaver the code activating her fusion reactor. Maximus frees Lucy's father but attacks him after learning Hank's role in Shady Sands destruction. Lucy disowns Hank for his actions after he attacks Maximus. The Ghoul, believing his family might still be alive, invites Lucy to travel with him and Dogmeat to find Vault-Tec's leaders. Lucy kills Rose and takes the Ghoul up on his offer. Moldaver activates the fusion reactor, powering Los Angeles just before she dies from her wounds. The Brotherhood forces assume that Maximus is responsible for Moldaver's death and acclaim him as Knight Maximus. Hank flees to the remains of New Vegas.
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[@Trev81]

Bro if I was Norm, I'd just start unplugging pods and tell Bud I'll stop when he lets me out.

[@76marex]

thats probably in season 2 we can see how he finds out

[@mikegilgenbach4840]

Norm has the hacking perk. He will be able to let himself out when the time comes. Im thinking he has a lot to do in 31 before that happens though.

[@DeashasAlwaysWatching]

@trev81 Ohhhh that would be such a good plan!!!

[@Tijuanabill]

@@76marex I'm hoping before the pod actually shuts, the outer door opens again, and this time it's Chet, wearing Steph's Pip-Boy, with all the admin features.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

So the Bud’s Buds in the pods you’ve unplugged are defrosted now and they deal with you, plug the cryopods back in, and go back into hibernation. Great plan. You’ve effectively multiplied the forces against you from one brain on a Roomba to however many you manage to unplug. The pods aren’t keeping them alive. The pods are keeping them frozen. Right now the worst Vault Tec can say about Norm is that he was too curious. So Bud’s brain offers him hibernation. If Norm takes hostile action as you suggest, why wouldn’t they just kill him?

[@rowenatulley852]

I think you missed Cooper thanking "Betty." Yep, THAT Betty . . .

[@jagutichsachma]

Shes not only missed that. Gotta have to talk all the time you know.

[@chandlermorgan708]

Hank deada** nuked Shady Sands because his wife (Lucy's mom) saw Shady Sands as proof that civilization had returned to the world outside the vault and she wanted to raise her children there. But Hank saw Shady Sands as everything wrong with the world and didn't want his children out there. He says in episode 8 that he "had to make a choice between their violent world and our peaceful one." A choice between Shady Sands and Vault 33. He says that if wasteland factions can't stop fighting, then factions should be eliminated and only vault dwellers should survive to make a better world. It's the theme of the entire show, what Max says at one point about how everyone wants to save the world but they disagree how. Hank's drunk on Vault Tec koolaid and thinks this is how he will make things better. But I think there's also some anger in there, too, because Lucy's mom wasn't a "true believer" any more.

[@adamcarlson2192]

It's also implied that she had a romantic relationship with Moldaver, which Hank probably wasn't too keen on.

[@caffeinedelusions]

And the thing is... the NCR are an outgrowth of a Vault community that had their reclamation day. They weren't competing with Vault Tec, they were PROVING THE CONCEPT.

[@Tijuanabill]

Having Lucy kill her mother, before Moldaver could turn the lights on, which was probably the whole point in keeping Rose alive in a room with a view, is so.......Fallout. They just can't be nice.

[@namechamps]

"a scary promotion" good way of putting it

[@Fmanzo10]

Imagine that. The bombing of Shady Sands came down to a child custody dispute.

[@ravenigmaamonzuhnamunal-sa6815]

some people would do it just for fun

[@evilwelshman]

For what it's worth, I think Dane intentionally proclaimed glory for Maximus for Moldaver's death before others could hear him say otherwise because they are not fully indoctrinated into The Brotherhood's ideology. Like Thaddeus, Dane can see the dangers and flaws of the organisation. Hence, they did what they did in hopes of safeguarding the cold fusion technology from being wholly in the hands of the cleric / leader and his followers.

[@thomasolson1154]

I don't know if it was about the Cold Fusion but Dane saw an opening. Dane knows that Maximus didn't kill Muldaver but by saying he did it puts Max into the hierarchy and he can help Dane and they can influence The Brotherhood in the future. It was the best possible option for them, and good on Dane for the quick thinking.

[@TrismegistusMx]

Dane is devious, willing to do anything to maximize their safety. By elevating Maximus, they elevate themselves. Dane is grabbing power the way the elder believed Maximus would. It's a great dynamic that will definitely pay off in season 2.

[@yungboomer8272]

When Barb was looking up when everyone was arguing there was a shadowy figure watching them, which was more than likely a member of the Enclave, which is like the illuminati of fallout. They're the shadow government from before the war and they were the main antagonists of fallout 2 and 3!

[@BigCowProductions]

10:03 I love this moment. It mirrors Cooper's reaction in a way, at least insofar as surprise.

[@pinklefoo]

That aspirant dane confession is crazy I know a stomach ache wouldn't be enough to get him out of going to the wilds... but skipping all the way to carving off your calf muscle is wild..

[@EvilOdysseus]

So when those execs were listing off hypothetical valut experiments, they are all real vaults you can find in the games. "We could overcrowd a Vault so people have to compete to survive inside it." - Vault 27 "We have been developing a robot to deliver milk, it's quite intelligent. I would like to see a Vault governed by it." - Vault 7 "What about using a Vault to develop a Super-Mutant soldier using illegal immigrants?" - Vault 87 "We could pump psychoactive drugs into the air supply." - Vault 106 "We could separate parents and children and only the smartest kids reach adulthood." - Vault 75

[@mckrackin5324]

I'm guessing you're the type of person that noticed the cold fusion code was the release date of the original Fallout game. Like me. lol

[@jmjackson2041]

My favourite vault is a vault that just has 54 clones of some bloke called Gary. Great show.

[@happyslapsgiving5421]

And they all just say "Gary" with different intonations. While trying to kill you. Amazing! 🤩

[@Vaultboy-ke2jj]

Haha Gaaarry

[@sonosoloio]

3:21 that car is a real-life Messerschmitt KR200, very similar to a car model that we can see in games.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

And it’s foreshadowing of how we see Bud in the vault.

[@JoeyEnn]

I think 31,32,33 were all Bud's vaults. It seems like each of the people sitting in the room each had a group of their own vaults so that might include the Coop's wife.

[@rookie1178]

What does that evil bitch's vault look like?

[@TrismegistusMx]

I love the multiple levels in Maximus believing monsters live in the vaults. He grew up near Vault 4, so it was probably huge news when the gulpers escaped. He was also right because Vaut-Tec is monstrous.

[@rromano158]

It's not that Barb found out someone was listening, she got a message on her Pip-Boy, then looked up at that shadowy figure, then took over the meeting. I am under the belief that Barb is higher up in the organization, either a senior executive or head of a division. All of the frozen people in vault 31 were junior executives under Bud's Buds program. Even though it might have been Vault-Tec's plan to drop the bomb, they were not ready yet and somebody else beat them to it.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

I agree pretty much with your take, except that at the beginning of the meeting, Bud is the company CEO (answerable to the Chairman of the Board and the Board of Directors) and Barb is a trusted lieutenant, a senior VP. The other bosses reject Bud’s pitch, and that’s when Barb steps in and saves the meeting. Bud couldn’t close the deal, but Barb could and did. So the upshot is that Bud was left in charge of 3 vaults and his pet Bud’s Buds project, but Barb was put in charge of the Vault Tec. I suspect you’re right about who started the nuclear exchange. Barb suggests it’s a back up plan to “insure results”.

[@FlowmingoShow69]

Niceeeee! I am very happy with this reaction! I'll see how you react at the end of the season.

[@dusty1987]

I like her pov on the show she asks good questions.like are all dots on the map vaults

[@elvisibra]

Knight is NOT leadership in the Brotherhood. It is just higher ranked soldier (like low officer rank) following orders like anyone else.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

But as the guy who killed Moldaver and captured the technology, who was already being groomed by the elder cleric, and who has Dane as an advisor? What is a leader? It’s someone with followers. The troops seem willing to follow Maximus. Dane acted quickly (and audaciously) to promote him by acclamation. They’re clever. I’m not sure what Dane’s own motivation is, but Dane probably needs Max as much as Max needs them. The Brotherhood of Steel aren’t the evil bad guys. As Theo says in episode 7, it’s complicated. Think of the BoS as the Catholic Church, not a weird cult. I don’t think they’re the good guys, either. But it’s better to think of the Brotherhood as its own thing, with its own organizational goals and capabilities.

[@elvisibra]

@@MarcosElMalo2 Max didn't capture anything. BoS did, they all FOUGHT. Dane in the end is just hyping Max, we will see if he becomes a knight, and then, nothing much changes. As for what Quintus said to Max before battle, it was just manipulation and to extract more truth, cause Quintus didn't want to send BoS into wild goose chase battle, and then when battle commenced, Max was assigned to Vanguard (high probability KIA) same as Dane as "a reward for such loyalty" i.e. as punishment for being a liar and a coward, while Quintus already new Max didn't sabotage Dane, but didn't know who did, while he obviously knew Max was lying about the head. So in Filly he staged a theatre, applied pressure, and both cases got solved, each suspect solving their own case. Ofc, do I have to mention that Dane's confession didn't save Max, instead just solved "Dane case", while Max' admission about the head saved his life..

[@mckrackin5324]

That was New Vegas that Hank was arriving at. Another Fallout game. Also, the cold fusion code was the original release date of the first Fallout game.

[@vodkablond]

The vaults mentioned were from the games but I can't wait to see what others are shown in the next season

[@frankdillard2522]

I was stoked to see Lucy and Cooper team up. They aren't even two sides of the same coin, they're fellow victims of Vault-Tec now. Cooper is further down the same path Lucy is on, he just made different choices. Like the song says... "There's still time to change the road you're on."

[@nathandc]

Loved your reactions, looking forward to season two. :-)

[@JustNotEverybody_]

Everybody is a form of gray in the wasteland.... Hank loved Lucy, so much so that it kinda surprises him and the idea that the mom took his treasured daughter outside where Hank believes it is nothing but violent mobs out there (he wasn't upper management so unclear how much he knew). So in Hank's view, he had to rescue his kids and his wife was the one who put them in danger in his view... Cooper's wife also makes a lot of sense: sitting alone (or with infant) while her husband is in war in Alaska with faulty armor she had to plan for everything alone which probably led her to get a job at Vaultec. In her view, all of this is happening anyways, they live in a broken world, so she did everything in her power to ensure her family would be safe in the worst case scenario and actually accomplished that. She was aware that the bombs were being dropped by her company, but she lived with the idea that bombs could drop at any time for any moment so, much like those in the wasteland, did everything in her power to make her loved ones as safe as possible..

[@rookie1178]

yeah, empathizing with genocidal maniacs is not a good look. There is no good f**king excuse to mass murder people

[@to0muchtoan]

What a great season. Hank wins the award for shittiest all around 🐍.

[@AretaicGames]

In the scenes where he's trying to gaslight Lucy into opening the cage and/or not shooting him, he also wins the award for Most Punchable Face. All credit to Kyle MacLachlan for his acting, though. You could see him calculating just how to manipulate Lucy next . . .

[@Trev81]

He's bringing back the Tunnel Snakes

[@dwnkaomwn3953]

Coop's family could be in Vault 31 like Hank and Betty were.

[@SonnyTiger74]

Those are Bud's buds, junior executives. Cooper's wife is much higher rank. She is probably in a vault that is for upper management, maybe New Vegas.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

Could be, but probably aren’t.

[@christopherpeters6365]

Just thought of this, it would be anazing to do another Fallout series only each season is another vault and another experiment explained! ❤

[@linny_456]

After I finished the season, I watched a video that went through all the known vaults in the franchise and talked about what their experiments were and what ended up happening to them. If you don't plan on playing the games, that could be a fun reaction video.

[@DocLunarwind]

Brotherhood with electricity means red lasers

[@dom3267]

Cooper most likely got his spot in a vault revoked once he separated with Barb. In the game (fallout 4) you need a spot/be on the list. The vaults didn’t take random people, kinda F’d up but that’s fallout lol

[@Brent_P]

Shady Oaks, lol.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

I figured it was a stand in for Glendale 😂. (Its name suggests a half dozen different places in the L.A. area.)

[@Throwaway-hv2ej]

9:42 PUT SOME DAMN RESPECT ON MR.HOUSE

[@spurgurius]

Most vaults are not occupied atleast with the original citizens. 200 years a long time. Shady Sands was was created by Vault Dwellers. Hope you play fallout, new vegas was at the ending of the series so its great game to start!

[@Scyth0r]

I think we'll find in Season 2 that none of the Vaults were intended to actually succeed. They were supposed to show if the 'idea' of a particular Vault worked. At which point a certain other group would swoop in, wipe them out and use that idea. The concept of sharing the Vaults between the other corporations came from the shadowy figure above the meeting, who sent Barb the message on her PipBoy. Game fans will have a very good idea who that group is.

[@DarkDragonDave]

About the only one that seems, and I stress seems, to have worked as intended, was Vault 76.

[@thenotoriousgryyn342]

A great series 👍 I hope Amazon does a BioShock Series next!

[@drchaos2000]

oh yeah, that universe has a lot of potential if treated with the same care as fallout.

[@ramz1377]

There are channels of the whole fallout lore

[@thenotoriousgryyn342]

Daesha please do a Nuka Cola Pin-up Model Cosplay 👍

[@DeashasAlwaysWatching]

Maybe for season 2 :)

[@user-et8js8qc8y]

22:10 vault 21

[@stevenmacknight9960]

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