FALLOUT 2 REMAKE - Remake vs Original Comparison [Project Arroyo]

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[@fedman55]

I always thought that the gritty 2d atmosphere of original fallout can't be recreated in the creation engine or in 3d at all, this proves me wrong. Amazing work !!!

[@trentr9762]

Welcome to what happens when a team who care about the world and themeingof fallout are in charge it. Very rare these days

[@hihosilver1234]

​@@trentr9762you're so full of it it's hilarious. Fallout 3 and 4 are the best Fallouts I still play them regularly.

[@matijajuric5479]

​@@hihosilver1234let me guess.. you havent been f***king in the 90s?😂

[@AlmondFlour]

It's definitely closer to that original feel

[@reivax8777]

It can, if you do it with due respect to the og, and you care about the franchise more than money

[@kitsunevoices]

Incredible. Fallout 2 is my all time favorite entry in the franchise and the love you guys are putting into it is beyond words. Please don't stop.

[@oxygenasturia5706]

The question is, how to remake the car ;)

[@elloboksi]

@@oxygenasturia5706 There actually are some vehicle mods in Fallout 4. So this shouldn't be a problem.

[@elloboksi]

Ok. I know, the mods still suck. But "maybe". ;-)

[@liluziflop966]

@@elloboksithe one reason I’d prefer this mod to be in new vegas is because of the highwayman mod. It’s actually really well done and it drives extremely well for a mod. But other than that I’d rather have it in 4 because of the better graphics lol

[@sethyork1164]

​@@liluziflop966theoretically the highwayman mod is quite possible in FO4. New Vegas engine is practicaly unchanged from FO3, and FO4 physics are pretty similar.

[@texasman1836]

You have no clue how excited I am at seeing Fallout 4 Project Arroyo coming to fruition. I can hardly walk in a straight line, I'm so excited.☺

[@SmittyWJManJensen]

You are not ready for it, but zig zagging around is what peak movement looks like.

[@texasman1836]

It's binding in the crotch area!

[@poweredbydecaf1915]

Imagine having to take a sobriety test and trying to explain to the cops that you aren't drunk, just excited.

[@IchNachtLiebe]

The good news is that not walking in a straight line will make it less likely that you fall into a vat of radioactive waste. They tend to be on staggering, alternating sides.

[@philsoro491]

Yea the jet does that 2 ya

[@georgekhayat8039]

feel bad for the sap who has to voice myron

[@sigmamaverick9215]

If F4NV comes a while after this, whoever voices Myron HAS to voice Boone

[@Pop-A-Squatch]

Boone

[@chilbiyito]

Low int female player interaction

[@imabigbadgirl1273]

They can use ai so

[@sigmamaverick9215]

@@imabigbadgirl1273 that's shitty tho

[@DarkraiDiety]

I can't wait to see Frank Horrigan.

[@andrewsv9729]

Это Fallout который мы все заслужили.

[@StitchesLovesRats]

So happy to see you guys haven't quit.

[@akikaurismaki_]

I don't want to be the bad guy here but what's the reason to re-create oldschool 2D Fallout with totally different mechanics in 3D? Really it's yet another project that won't be even done at all because it make's no sense to do so. Author's of those projects can feels original but they're not. C'mon guys. It would be 100x better if some indie game developers and artists try to refresh the game to nowadays standards - with new hd textures, more details, more ux friendly approach, better but familiar user interface. Making another 2d => 3d trailers is just pointless.

[@xboxplzfixme]

​@@akikaurismaki_ Please explain how this "makes no sense to do" ?

[@wolfgang_h3t]

Hopefully the recent update to fallout 4 won't fuck with it like it did fallout London, just found out about this project

[@fegemarsilang5746]

​@@akikaurismaki_ what's the reason to create old 2D games? none other than to simply do what Bethesda isn't doing

[@snickerdoooodle]

@@akikaurismaki_ Your comment gives me the impression that you want to whine about a project for the sole reason just to whine. You didn't even have a real criticism.

[@memeckiy]

The fact that I started playing the original game recently make me want to play this masterpiece already ❤ Good work guys

[@CaedoGenesis]

More power to ya, this is ambitious as heck!

[@tt128556]

I guess the hardest part will be filling in the 90 % of the map that's couldn't be fast traveled to.

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

No, I think the hardest part is trying to replicate the level design of the original version while trying not to expose some of the issues that occurs with the translation in perspectives. (Like when they showcased the Temple of Trials; The hallways being so boxy sticks out in 3D like a sore thumb and feels extremely gamey.)

[@chasecsgo7041]

@@dragonbornexpress5650 i dont think this is the case here at all they did an extremely good job i cant see what you are talking about, and how hard would it be to use the same system of travel with the map and random encounters dont they already have a mod for that, then they only need to fill in most areas. Making these areas are much harder than the actual empty map areas thats easy to lay out its hard to make all the models for everything in these buildings that arent already made, trees and terrain are easily replicated and repurposed for many different games and things they can change the colors and make it work otherwise i doubt they would have spent the time making half of the game.

[@eclipsegst9419]

There are two solutions. first would be a system just like the original with an overworld travel map that you warp to when you walk into a travel zone and select yes on a prompt, and within it the random encounter rng that could drop you off at one of the same random encounters but in full 3d. If that isn't possible, the world could just be scaled down enough to be travelable and the random encounters sprinkled about the wastes. I would be fine with either if the game has working quests that's all i care about really.

[@AviTwesvii]

​​​​@@eclipsegst9419I think the first option is the best because one thing I really liked about the originals was that thanks to the world map, the (lorewise) game area felt huge and it felt very significant travelling from one place to another, seeing the days passing and all. It truly added to the role-playing element for me but I truly understand if they'd prefer to scale down the map, since this is a mod and it's already mind blowing by itself that they're remaking Fallout 2 into a whole different game engine!! :)

[@eclipsegst9419]

@@AviTwesvii it would be really cool I just don't personally know if the mod tools allow that kind of adding mechanics that didn't ship with the game or not.

[@thesnowmn2]

Can't even comprehend how I would feel playing this,I don't even know if I want to risk my nostalgia.

[@ciaacho1]

love how you turned the temple of trials into a museum of sorts, with the non functional ceiling lights replaced by torches etc. And then the toxic caves are especially atmospheric, love the amount of detail in the final room as well! This makes me so happy to see PS I kind of wish you used the same original, cartoonish green toxic goo for the Arroyo hunting grounds as well. I feel like it really lent itself to the absurd comic book style aesthetic of the originals.

[@DSlyde]

Hunting geckos in the rocks and trees has the potential to be terrifying at low levels

[@SmittyWJManJensen]

You are the one being hunted by them in the early game lol

[@fibliss]

Guys you're awesome!!! What an atmosphere! You really catch and transfer F2 spirit which is my favorite part ever! Keep doin what you do, wait for next episodes!

[@VanlockFR]

This looks amazing, i'm very happy to see all the progress that's being made ! Many congrats and thanks to all the people involved in this project !

[@Luke_H98]

This is terrific! I've recently been playing through F2 again and seeing these 3d recreations are fantastic. I hope to see this mod have a long lifetime and come out great. Best of luck guys!

[@Vlad_Porva]

Если эта игра выйдет, она станет легендарной. Выглядит очень красиво и очень похоже на Fallout 2. Я бы с удовольствием в такое поиграл и порекомендовал бы всем знакомым. После четвёртой части не могу играть в первые два из-за очень устаревшего геймплея. Здесь же - серьёзный AAA-проект

[@WarraxBFP]

Ну, не ААА, конечно, но реально с удовольствием бы переиграл.

[@user-ez7zl8yv7i]

Весь шарм Второго фаллаута в его изометрии, переделай BG3 в 3D от первого лица и это будет шляпа. Просто нужно перезапустить 2 часть с графикой BG3 и это будет хит. А делать такую ерунду , просто терять время.

[@Vlad_Porva]

@@user-ez7zl8yv7i не согласен. Я ценю старый Фолыч за мрачную атмосферу, интересный сюжет (не как в Fallout 4), нелинейность и интересная прокачка (Fallout 4 и здесь антиэталон). А изометрия... Прикольная фишка, но мне вот не нравится такой геймплей. Сделать бы его как в Fallout 4, только резни поменьше и весь хлам вроде мастерских убрать. И будет супер. Опять же - вкусовщина. Мне нравится геймплей и графика четвёрки, но там не хватает мрачной атмосферы, да и квесты, сюжет и прокачка убогие. Скучно. Так что я бы хотел увидеть лучшее из разных игр серии в одном проекте

[@WarraxBFP]

@@Vlad_Porva, поддерживаю. Изометрия была хороша, но сейчас уже не радует. Но, конечно, дело вкуса.

[@yastyman]

Это вообще могло бы стать новой эпохой для игр, ещё бы Planescape Torment так же качественно перенести.

[@interfusor]

Amazing work! Looking forward to seeing some enemy models, especially Frank Horrigan.

[@koboldlord]

Looking amazing so far! Great work!

[@robbieburns3564]

Amazing work. This is such a massive undertaking that I don't know whether I'll be around in the far future when it's complete - but I sure hope I am.

[@wesleycolvin7158]

WOW! This looks fantastic. Using the original as a comparison was a great way to show how it's staying true to the original while establishing something new.

[@ThePigeonmilk]

This looks great! Awesome work so far. Looking forward to the release if one is coming. Kudos

[@tizodd6]

Awesome work. Subbed and turned on notifications. Can't wait to see this completed.

[@HalfricanJones]

Words cannot express how much hope I have for all of you on the team! I understand this mod might be six years or more out, but goddamn am I willing to wait.

[@evolbetty4598]

Fallout 2 was the first real RPG I ever played. This makes me so happy to see.

[@Meettch]

looks incredible, great work to all involved

[@user-un5xj1wl6p]

The Aroyo tribak temple assets look a bit morrowindesque , but the vibe is a huge positive. Maybe a bit less smooth ceilings and rougher materials could make it feel less like an elder scrolls dungeon...

[@Bobba_raekus]

Since it made no sense lore-wise for tribals to build something to that scale post-war they took advice from the Fallout Bible and made it into a pre-war museum that survived intact. Everything inside is plastic and cement, if it looks fake it's because it is meant to be.

[@CrizzyEyes]

The added rope cordons seem to suggest they're going with a popular fan theory, which is that The Temple of Trials was formerly some kind of hokey tourist trap before the bombs dropped.

[@krefulin8582]

I dont remember where I read, I thibk it was in the Fallout Bible, that the temple of trials was a church​@@CrizzyEyes

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@Bobba_raekus. I guess, but that doesn't explain just how boxy the hallways appear to be; Why not collapsed walls revealing abandoned offices or old maintenance tunnels?

[@aron_e39b77]

I don't often get hyped anymore but this seriously got me going, those working on this are amazing!!!

[@Kreollife]

Как же хочу я поиграть в этот обновленный шедевр. С такой реалистичностью понимаешь, что в жизни бы не смог подойти к этим пещерам даже близко...

[@davidortiz6405]

Looks great, congratulations for the team

[@RingManofChaos]

Amazing job guys

[@8-bitrick133]

Amazing job, you’re doing great, keep at it, we believe in you!

[@djobnoxious6407]

I'm very thankful to you guys. Let's see how these well-designed quests and storylines translate to the new medium. Your experiments are invaluable.

[@gitarmats]

This looks really cool! Would love to be able to play it like this!

[@craigwood4873]

Love these games, have played them multiple time start to finish, I didn't realised I needed a fps version of this till now, I thank you! 🎉❤

[@hellabread5706]

So happy to see that this project is still being worked on

[@Brubarov]

Please keep working on this gem! Love you guys

[@3Angry1nches]

This is looking so good! Fantastic work!

[@stevedowning3892]

Superb work guys, can't wait to get my hands on this when it comes out. Keep the faith! ☢✊

[@RetroJack]

Looks great - you've captured that Creation Engine jank perfectly!

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

Not as if Fallout 2 wasn't already broken; The original version is filled to the brim with bugs and glitches. (Almost like developing a full sequel for PC's in only a year is gonna leave the final product busted.)

[@badnewsjp]

Looks great, can't wait to see what you do with the den and new reno!

[@sarcasticguy4311]

I'm not one to usually give comments on videos like this but this is very well done. Kudos. Now, show us the end area with the president.

[@bigsuavecito7]

This is so awesome. Looks, like the project is in great hands.

[@felipecel]

What a beauty, i really really hope this come true, all of my support!

[@mercock1]

Amazing work guys!!! Keep it up!!! I would love to try it

[@wagnerags]

Looks great! May I suggest vaulted ceilings for the dungeons? It will make the rooms feel bigger and more impressive.

[@ErkenbrandDarkblade]

I can't tell you how much I'm hyped with this, it's incredible.

[@C_Games]

Very beautyful! Waiting release

[@conza1989]

This is excellent, subbed, I hope fans of the original can appreciate this, I have had this on my list to play for a long time, along with the first game which I've seen the let's play of, so a remake would be really really cool

[@TrystaneTheBlack]

I can't wait for this, so many great Fallout 4 mods on the radar

[@calripkenturner]

Amazing! Excited for this.

[@gregnezz]

subbed, very excited well done!

[@AttaKru]

just awesome, and the presentation is excellent, showing the old 2d and new 3d places, keep it up!

[@TheTenthArt]

Nice! You guys are heroes! It will be amazing to revisit this game in another flavor. Kudos!

[@arek3078]

Can't wait to see Your work on Navarro/San Francisco. Amazing job.

[@regisk]

Looks incredible! It captures the feeling the world of F2 gives

[@xLacryman]

I played F1 and F2 since release, let me tell you, seeing this is a great excuse to revisit the game after decades.

[@ahealthkit2745]

These environments are a huge step up! Marvellous work.

[@TravellerChris]

It looks so good! I can't wait for the final result!

[@Somebody_Someone]

Absolutely awesome!

[@artorias550]

Proper remaster. It shows how small fallout 2 really was

[@void7837]

Its a remake, not a remaster

[@artorias550]

@@void7837 it is disputable. It is remake which seems to copy original content, just makes it 3d. Let's just call it good remake

[@WindiChilliwack]

@@artorias550 I wonder how they're gonna implement the car, idk if it'll actually be drivable or there's a cutscene where you enter and it zooms and fades away to reveal the world map in the car looking at the pipboy

[@chilbiyito]

​@@WindiChilliwackprobably a static object that opens an interactive map but would be cool if it had an animation of entering the car opening a map and selecting the location for immersion

[@stormcry8202]

Fallout 2 was HUGE. It spanned STATES, not just a major city like DC or Boston, STATES.....

[@sleepydeveloper]

Doing the lord's work! Can't wait to play this!

[@captainpoptarts]

Looking forward to this, hopefully this and the other remakes get finished and are great

[@JaneDentonGaming]

This looks so amazing!!!! I can't wait to play it!!!

[@adammacko7256]

This looks amazing, good job of creating right atmosphere. Just playing Fallout 2 right now 😁

[@bakioztepe]

Looks good! Keep up the good work!

[@panwu6602]

This looks AMAZING

[@tsivils1987]

Love what you got going. I think it needs to look a little grittier, tho. Keep up the good work

[@riordian2]

amazing brawe showstopping courageus. Holy crap man, THIS! THIS IS IT! whatever the form, in the end it shouws that you guys get it. amazing, please don't stop :&

[@leolevec1244]

Keep this up guys, its just awesome 🍻

[@BiGuyJedi]

Love this, can't wait to see more :)

[@drcrowlee]

Looks phenomenal

[@thesoundofV8]

Looks great and detailed. Would be great to try it out

[@Finn_7117]

That looks amazing!

[@user-ht4wd6ld3r]

When worse graphics, then better imagination work. It is a secret atmosphere in the old type of RPG.

[@danialshamshuddin]

I can’t wait to see that old Sentry Bot come to life. Hope to have that as a stand-alone Automatron mod, too.

[@ukaszpiastowski5191]

so freakin cool. I'm waiting for the final version :)

[@hodumx]

Off the scale crazy and absurd. On another level that you are sir.

[@kinggimped]

Amazing work

[@edwardmartinez749]

Can't wait see to how New Reno turns out looking 😳

[@Anviification]

For me FO2 is still best game in the series :) This looks amazing! Fingers crossed, that the team will be able to publish a finished mod someday!

[@PrestonGarvey69]

I just bought it for 2.50$

[@devlaminckx3382]

Keep up the good work, I wished I could play it right now! I grew up with Fallout 1 and 2 (and the rest as well).

[@victorhugo-ld3wk]

Bro this looks fantastic

[@BlackLabelBerserkerSeattle]

This looks so fucking good. Good job guys!

[@SSMLivingPictures]

Subbed with notifications. Im looking to play the original 2 again so Ill be keeping my eyes on this

[@MrOshimitsu]

Go go! guys you are all great!!!

[@PandaJerk007]

Looks great!

[@Pandavid_86]

This is so awesome, can't wait!

[@Sleepy_DOOD1701]

I am so excited for this

[@aleksandrsv.1465]

This is marvelous! The main question is - when? I want it so bad!

[@troublesome07]

Looks awesome

[@mobarakjama5570]

I'd buy this no questions asked, this looks AMAZING.

[@GillespieGaming]

Man this would be so sick!

[@WatcherEight]

This literallly gave me goose bumps o.O

[@rustyesh]

i am AMAZED!

[@JeffThePoustman]

Exciting project!

[@jhov22]

This is awesome!! Never played Fallout 2 and would love to play this mod!! Hopefully it will be ready in a few years 🤞.....or sooner 😁

[@surge1229]

Nice

[@reconmon5267]

I’m so glad this is happening!

[@przemysawjankowski3219]

Pełen szacunek nie mogę się doczekać kiedy będzie gotowy

[@movienerd202]

Chwała Polsce! 🇺🇲🤜🤛🇵🇱

[@_the_dare_devil_]

I tak gówno z tego wyniknie, kolejny remake, który będzie chciał zarobić na naszych wspomnieniach o najlepszych czesciach Fallouta, czyli jedynce i dwójce. Wersje 3D do pięt nie dorastają tym kultowym grom. I nigdy się to nie zmieni, bo Fallout 2 to nie gierka z widokiem 1 osoby. Nigdy się tego nie nauczą. Jedynie młodsze pokolenia, które przyjęły wersję 3+ się będą cieszyć. Stare chuje jak ja będą tylko przeżywać rozczarowanie. ;D