Fallout 4 & 76's APC is a Hot Mess

In this Fallout 4 lore video, I discuss the unnamed APC design found in the commonwealth, starting with some theory crafting to give the vehicle a name. Then I dive into the known specifications and attempt to derive a few of the unknown. Then I talk about what I liked, disliked, and what I found to be interesting.
Thanks so much for the support on my previous video, and hopefully on this one!
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[@spydingo]

Thank you so much for your support on my previous video! I can't believe it has over 100k views now, that's just insane! Now that I know so many of you fine people are watching, I really put my all into this chat about the unnamed fallout APC. I hope you enjoy.

[@mohsinimtiaz3575]

keep this series up man youre doing a great job love and best wishes from pakistan

[@CLCasual]

Don't be so surprised, your video quality, editing and writing are all great and this is called succeeding

[@thebasedspectre3048]

I think you should work up to the prydwen

[@TheNerovar]

You find your milk cow. Dont stop only on Fallout univers tho. There a lot of strange tech in other games.

[@boxfoxscoot1614]

My head cannon for the apc being so tall is its actually using a heavily modified drivertrain from a one of the civilizan vans. Its purpose would be equivalent to modern day swat vans its meant to look scary but its not actually designed for overseas conflicts its armor and weapons would not hold up to military grade explosives however it would be decent against civilian mobs with small arms weaponry. It uses the drive train from pre existing vehicles to stay cheap and affordable without too much rnd so the money can be put towards the war effort (This is all conjecture and isnt backed up by anything solid)

[@xXbrokenvoidXx]

There's a slightly different version of this "APC" in Fallout 76, as a skin for the portable survival tent. Among other things it actually has tracks instead of wheels and a much smaller cannon.

[@Jan_Strzelecki]

Oh, you're right! And it seems to be a bit more sensible design, with a smaller cannon (like you said) and some shot traps removed 🙂

[@spydingo]

Yeah! It's much better, wish I knew about it when I was making the video.

[@mantabloke8141]

Lore on holo tapes say it got stuck in the cranberry bog near the prime site

[@jasperlazuly6623]

@@spydingo pues el lodo atasca las orugas, pero para el terreno montañoso de virginia occidental, es mucho mejor, los otros apc estaban en zonas urbanas o aledañas a ellas, por lo que serian una variante de combate ligero adaptado a la guerrilla urbana, en apalachia nesecitaban una variante capaz de atravesar los bosques y campos en caso de una invasion extranjera, que curiosamente, si llego pero por parte de mama'dolces 😅

[@williambrown6797]

​@@spydingowould you consider doing a part 2 comparing the Wheeled Hermit to the Tracked hermit while also doing a breakdown of the Tracked variant?

[@legdig]

I wouldn't mind seeing you do a breakdown on the crazy train from fallout 4, that thing is nuts and apparently entirely automated. makes me wonder if they would still be limping along if the track was in better shape.

[@AlanGChenery]

Just don't pair it with R.R.A.G.G. from Planet Story (by Harry Harrison and Jim Burns). It's a fully autonomous rail track laying construction robot which even uses materials from the environment to construct bridges, tunnels, etc. Everything it takes to get the train from A to B.

[@LordS1MP]

I like this idea as well

[@wormwoodbecomedelphinus4131]

FULL STEAM AHEAD

[@spydingo]

Choo Choo. This will be my next video after the Vertibird one I'm currently working on. It will be nice to have only 1 model to work with again!

[@HighRaptorjr]

Fallout Metro Exodus wen

[@RenLokison]

I’d love to see the Aircraft Carrier that was turned into Rivet city in fallout 3. Despite the fact it was cracked in half and all that, it should be doable.

[@spydingo]

Good idea, I'll have to find a new way to rant on rivets though. Would also be fun to take a deep dive to see if my personal theory of it actually being a museum ship holds any water. Thanks for commenting!

[@johndoeyo]

The USS Eden was designed based on older generations of aircraft carriers that served during WW2 albeit scaled up

[@ancaplanaoriginal5303]

That thing doesn't make any damn sense, it looks ridiculous, like an oversized USS Enterprise. It should have been an actual supercarrier as those were invented and built before the timeline split.

[@royalpain6338]

​@@ancaplanaoriginal5303 I always thought it was a museum ship with the load of outdated aircraft cluttering the hanger and the p51.

[@ancaplanaoriginal5303]

@@royalpain6338 Nah, it's just that Bethesda devs think the whole world got stuck at korean war technology for over a century, meanwhile we see UH-1s, F-4 phantoms, P90's and M16s during the original fallouts

[@paulmurgatroyd6372]

The top mounted cannon might be a low pressure gun, which has historically been fitted to light, wheeled vehicles to avoid pushing themselves over.

[@nirvashneo8400]

I agree, it looks and is probably similar to the 2A28 gun on the BMP-1 and BMD-1

[@hanzzel6086]

Still way too big.

[@johnnyk617]

Looks like an amphibious vehicle also, but these medium gun vans look like they would work exceptionally well to support the tanks from the previous video

[@spydingo]

Hey, thanks for watching em' both. I really appreciate it. I agree they do fit together pretty well. At least as long as they stay near roads lol.

[@Grombrindal]

The twin main guns don't exactly instill me with confidence. It looks like a tank for wazzocks.

[@garrettverville9564]

In fallout 76 you can have a tent setup that is an APC, but instead of the 3 wheels it has a track configuration, maybe it’s an improved variant of the standard apc

[@spydingo]

Oh yeah! I've seen that version now, I like it more. They added the tracks as you said and removed some of the shot traps, certainly a step in the right direction!

[@DIEGhostfish]

I always figured the ball turrets were concealing machineguns under armored jackets.

[@spydingo]

It's certainly possible, all we know for sure is the width of the jackets lol

[@JustJove]

The amount of effort put into the editing along with the niche lore dump earned you a sub. It's rare to see a new channel posting such quality content, good luck!

[@spydingo]

Thank you!

[@BoisegangGaming]

I really enjoy seeing these sort of fanon takes on fallout vehicles. Because of how the games aren't super-focused on them, it's interesting to kind of imagine how they operated and also what others may have existed.

[@spydingo]

Thanks for commenting! Seems like a lot of people enjoy this type of thing, I'm still surprised how well these videos are doing.

[@bocktordaytona5656]

@@spydingo yep I actually think the same as boisegang... I always from years ago searched on the vault wiki about fallout machines: vehicles weapons power armor... and I liked to imagine my own stuff to fill the voids, and I'm really glad for this videos. You put a lot of effort and I really like the green and yellow vehicles in your schematics, just fresh from the pipboy render.

[@k9builder]

In FO76, if you follow highway 90 north from the vault you will find an APC with the number 1370220. Could be a serial number or model number. Also, the vans give some indication they are Chryslus.

[@simonr9870]

don't know why but when that Sugar Bomb commercial rolled in i believe that yeah i'd see the marketing team raiding dentists office at gunpoint for them to approve the product.

[@spydingo]

Or at the very least holding their families hostage at gunpoint lol

[@Cookiescool2]

Great analysis man!! You're right that there's no real-world direct analogue to this, but I would say the M75 APC is the closest real-life approximation. Kind of an obscure vehicle but in the 50's it was this oversized APC meant for a nuclear battlefield, but ultimately scrapped bc it was a massive target. Not really useful for carrying troops

[@spydingo]

Thank you! Wow, I totally see it, its even got the viewing ports in the hatch and a van like silhouette, that's wild.

[@wr1ght939]

The name Hermit kinda grew on me :). Please continue these! This series has so much potential! Maybe you could do the corvega models or any sort of civilian models? Edit: I just realized the ball guns could look like crab eyes! I’m totally going with Hermit.

[@spydingo]

I'm glad! Will do!

[@adeptuscustode115]

To me it also looks like it could be used to make amphibious landings

[@spydingo]

Awesome, glad I'm not alone!

[@MitsukiTakeda]

@@spydingo It reminded me of cross between the AAVP-7A1 and the LAV-25 that the USMC uses.

[@wolfox6954]

I'd love to see you do the trains next, mainly the oversized steam engine like one found in 4 and 76.

[@spydingo]

I think that will be my next video after the vertibird video I'm currently working on!

[@pokeyscorpion8224]

Riot suppression was definitely a major use for this vehicle, especially since power armor was very commonly used for crowd control. Considering there doesn’t seem to be any space to store ammo for the ball or dorsal turrets, they were probably energy-based and drew power directly from the on-board reactor. The gun ports not being present on the interior is probably just a minor oversight, mirelurks were supposed to have visible gills but they got covered on the model and forgotten about.

[@spydingo]

I would love them to be energy based, I'd also love the ball turrets to be plasma throwers! Also thank you for the fun fact about the mirelurks!

[@RRVCrinale]

The turrets could be shell-based, but low-velocity, more like grenade launchers. Stinger/gas shells probably saw a lot of use in the riot suppression role. And when things got worse...

[@pokeyscorpion8224]

@@RRVCrinale Good point. The secondary turrets could’ve been small ordinance, with the main gun being energy

[@ExternalDialogue]

Yeah it makes a ton of sense for fallout's vehicles to mainly use Energy Armaments considering they already have the powerplant for it.

[@bonglambitco80]

Poseidon Energy Riots.....

[@kingshisa8266]

I like the name🤣. Would have been cool to see a unique hermit crab using one of them as a shell.

[@spydingo]

Right!? Maybe in the next one you never know.

[@left-2-write28]

I NEED a mod for that now. Someone hit up the mod author for Mutant Menagerie for Fallout 4!

[@martydearmodillyou4231]

@@left-2-write28 this man needs a promotion,he's a godamn genius

[@markkumyllykoski5444]

Someone already mentioned the weird train locomotive so I'm going to suggest those crashed flying wing passenger planes you can find.

[@spydingo]

Good idea! Also thanks for commenting!

[@mikeemous1410]

The visuals are very well done in this looks very professional

[@spydingo]

Thank you!

[@normalicious9734]

I love videos examining fictional tanks and fighting vehicles, like this and some of Spookston's videos

[@spydingo]

Thanks for being a subscriber! I recognize Spookston's avatar, not sure from what videos though. I'll have to check that channel out.

[@michaelblum4968]

Perhaps one of the installed weapon types were designed to use the Fat Boy. Low recoil, high damage! 40mm "high velocity" grenade launchers nowadays are pretty "low recoil" compared to any "regular tank-type cannon". Is there a way to measure the diameter of a Fat Boy?

[@spydingo]

Certainly possible, though I'm not sure where they would store such munitions. Well, there is a distance measuring pistol mod I've been using, not the most accurate thing, but approximately possible I think.

[@Datttsnake]

Fat Boy was mostly a prototype though.

[@williamsiegle8205]

Loving your Fallout Content, thank you so much!

[@spydingo]

No problem. Thanks for the support!

[@donnym3415]

Infantry fighting van 🤣 Reminded me of the battle taxi, the M113

[@spydingo]

I really enjoyed that joke, I'm glad you did to! Certainly shares the lack of angles that's for sure.

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

M113, more like Battle Lunchbox

[@Skystrike1535]

Feel like I should mention, its very possible that the 105MM turret was similar to the gun/launcher systems found on some cold war era tanks where the main gun doubled as a TOW missile launcher. This APC/IFV could exclusively use 105 TOW missiles, though I have no idea what the twin forward facing guns would fire, as secondary weapons it wouldn't make much sense to give those similar guided rounds. Profile also makes me think it would be way more prone to falling over with its top heavy design and short wheelbase. Entirely possible that the weight is under the 30 ton range, which combined with its very tall profile would give some credit to the amphibious idea.....if it had props or water jets on the back that is. Look at the AAV and you'll see what I mean, but the AAVs are also far longer and much more boat shaped, still sitting very low in the water.

[@ozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

As the main gun was automated the ball turrets could also be automated and the slots on the sides could be cams

[@Horus9123]

Hi! I like that someone decided to discuss the vehicles from the Fallout universe. It would be good if you prepared something about this rocket artillery from the intro to Fallout 4 or about airplanes, although I will not complain if something else appears in the next episodes. Now I will definitely pay more attention to looking at the vehicles when I play.

[@Destroyer_V0]

I know the aircraft do actually have a name in lore.

[@spydingo]

Hey there! I can certainly try, but those rocket artillery will be tough since they don't seem to exist anywhere. A challenge is never a bad thing though =)

[@Horus9123]

If I remember correctly, there were some rocket launchers in Fallout 3 when the Brotherhood of Steel fought the Enclave after the main storyline ended. I just don't remember if they were self-propelled or stationary launchers.

[@centuriondominicus7871]

thank you for explaining the difference between acronyms and abbreviations. More people need to know.

[@spydingo]

Ha ha no problem!

[@laupatual7137]

The amount of military hardware found in boston is immense! From military vehicles to PA and Weapon factories. If the sole survivor ever chooses rebuild or make a successful government with the faction they chose, they'd definitely could become a super power. Maybe even able to rival the NCR and several chapters of BoS.

[@wastelesslearning1245]

Yeah could you imagine what the minutes men could do with it?

[@pokeyscorpion8224]

Hell, the Minutemen alone could easily protect the entire commonwealth with just a few of the vehicles

[@wastelesslearning1245]

@@pokeyscorpion8224 yes allied with ballistic Weave and stealth boy makers (rail road) that can predict the future PAM, a network of atumatron and factory DLC sole survivor communities, armed with laser Muskets able to discharge 6 fusion cells worth of energy per snipe (a Normal laser rifle uses 1/30th a fusion cell per shot and minute men use 6 cells per Blast! That’s what 180x the shot power minus some inefficiencies since laser muskets use fusion cells and even the automatic muskets shooting 30 normal laser shots in 1?). Oh and the memory den for enhanced interrogation. Yeah with some vehicles, the common wealth will be insanely formidable even ignoring the battle for quickly payed mod workshop with minutemen power armor.

[@spydingo]

And if you managed to steal the Prydwen and USS constitution the new nation would even have an Air Navy.

[@lukewc2256]

​@@spydingo I believe, that is known, as an air force

[@braindeadjet8086]

Could you do the stingray or vertibird. The stingray might be hard tho as the only examples are a crashed opposite the posiden energy turbine and outside of arc jet inc.

[@spydingo]

For sure. I actually worked in aeronautics for a while so that's actually the area I'm most interested in. Not gunna lie, I've been very disappointed with the seeming lack of an air force in the fallout universe. I'm actually working on making some art at the moment for the vertibird, but I'd love to explore the stingray too. Would be a lot of theory crafting for sure, sounds like a fun challenge though.

[@braindeadjet8086]

@@spydingo the Brotherhood of Steel has a couple more vehicles or things aka the prydwen and Liberty prime. There is quite a bit of info on both, the prydwen has I think 3-4 hydrogen envelopes ( I don’t know the terminology for the gas things).

[@braindeadjet8086]

@@spydingo other thing could include the uss democracy sub from far harbour, the ufo and the Yangtze sub

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@spydingo It is funny how ALL the crashed Vtols in f4 are vertibirds despite those being pretty much brand new at the time the bombs went off. (Tactics may have gone too far in the other direction since the crashed helicopters on some maps seem to be Hueys)

[@Von_Langstein]

There is also the Shi's advanced fighters they were trying to make. The old Western brotherhoods massive expedition Zepplins even larger than the prydwen, that were designed to go out and establish a chapter / expedition fighting force, one crashed during the era of the Master. There is also the possibility of jump jet / jetpack troopers. Not all of it is cannon but there is a really cool fan mod project that I find puts the fallout verse and its vehicle tech in a more understandable perspective. Its the Old World Blues mod for Hearts of Iron 4 on steam workshop, one of the best mods I've seen for a paradox game with a pretty big mod team and a few years under their belt already. They have taken all the lore from every fallout game, yes even tactics, and have also filled in the gaps with their own ideas

[@justanotherghost4589]

I just randomly came across your channel with the giant Fallout nuclear steam locomotive and I gotta say I already love these! The way you style and go through everything is amazing, I really like how you try to work out related companies and figure out the lore of these machines. I've always had a fascination with fictional vehicles and machinery in games like this, GTA, and others. I haven't played fallout in a while but it would be cool to see these made into makeshift homes.

[@125deadstar]

First off fantastic video, loved how deep you go into these things and how much thought is behind it. Keep it up ❤ Next on the design aspect, while multi turreted tanks in the past have failed in their own ways due to either overworking the 1 or 2 gunners or having an oversized crew of "a decent sized village", the vehicle looks like it would do pretty well in an urban environment being that the assumed to be low velocity 76mm guns would be able to be utilized on things like intersections with the main 185mm always having a back up to fire when creeping past corners corners. The vehicle, being so tall, could also be perfect for being behind the tank in a convoy order as it would be able to rely on the tracks of the tank to compress any loose dirt creating a path and could fire above it with HE or (drum roll please) canister shells to clear pockets of infantry. I mention it again as its quite an overlooked shell when it comes to the design of a lot of things, and is a very valid shell, no I am not biased to the spicy salt shaker, I don't know what you're talking about. Now with the vehicle being all over Boston that brings another thought that it could have been made for countering domestic situations which leads a bit back into the idea that it was designed for urban combat purposes. Tldr, could have been made for primarily urban combat with low velocity guns in mind and we need to show love to the spicy salt shaker more.

[@spydingo]

Thank you, I'll try! I like your idea of a tracked vehicle compressing the ground for the Hermit, just wish the existing tracked vehicles in universe were better for such a leading role. lol "Spicy Salt Shaker" I love it.

[@kazak8926]

This is a fair point, however keep in mind these multiturrets could actually be similar in role to a Co-Axial Machine Gun, of which many Tanks have had many. (Generally one on the turret and one fixed in the hull).

[@LordS1MP]

The detail into things we've all passed by in our hours of gameplay finally gets a place in our hearts, LET THE LORE CONTINUE!!!!!! Could you do some research in branding? Like the Nuke-A-Cola lore etc.? I'm sure there's already tons out there but in an entertaining and dumbed down way that isnt gonna make me take a metal fork to a glass plate due to being bored. Keep up the good work and I'm ready to see you prosper my guy!!!

[@spydingo]

Thank you! I certainly plan to branch out and do lore in different areas of the fallout universe in this channel. Since y'all seem to be enjoying the vehicle run downs I'll probably main with that, but I want to test out different type of lore videos every few videos for sure. That and the Nuka Cola magnet on my fridge, pretty much guarantees this will happen eventually lol

[@LordS1MP]

@@spydingo I can't wait for you to get into the groove of things!! We support you already and I've got notifications on!! I listen to these things while I sleep or while I work so this is gonna be a new channel that pops up here and there. Thank you for showing interest in the platform and stay 100% no matter what happens!! It'll get rough but we're here man!!! Don't hesitate to ask for anything man!! IM READY FOR THE DINGO PACK TO PROSPER!!!!!

[@Jackalope20999]

You are an undiscovered gem dude. I really love staring at fallout art and imagining the deeper lore behind it. You make videos out of this stuff and really make my day. Keep it up!

[@EJownu43]

Definitely keep up with the content, and your editing style is great, actually enjoyed watching both videos

[@spydingo]

Thanks, will do!

[@ice111110]

I like the names you keep coming up with. I really love these videos.

[@spydingo]

Glad you like them! I'll have to find more unnamed vehicles in the future. Think most others, at least in the fallout universe are named.

[@Southwestchickensalad]

Another thing I noticed about this vehicle, just look how the front and rear of the vehicle sticks out. It would probably be kinda crappy for off road use for its weird looking/approach and departure angle. Reminds me of the Saint Chamond tank the French had in WW1 those suckers got stuck all the time lol. Glad to flhave found your channel you make some interesting stuff bro. I can see this channel going places in the future 🙂

[@TimUmax]

Man, thats some high quality content. Keep up the good work! Subbed.

[@spydingo]

lol looks like you comment went through 3 times. I still appreciate it though!

[@TimUmax]

@@spydingo lmao. Anyway, i rly like ur fallout videos. So much attention to small details.

[@ZippingHorizon]

Honestly with how often people are fixing up power armor, and some cars, itd be nice to see these in use post-war

[@Puffalupagus360]

I just love the attitude of these videos.

[@QutalToddHoward]

11:02 those plates with slots might be mounting points for gear, or more probably points of securement to attach to a crane or maybe even a vertibird for transport. Perhaps they served to tie down the vehicle to a trainbed or ships hold.

[@TheGreatThicc]

Somebody that knows the difference between an APC and IFV. Instantly subbed.

[@psykology9299]

South Africa's IFV the Ratel does have a Denel GT-2 90mm cannon variant which is bigger than our primary AFV, the Rooikat 76 (though the rooikat does have a 105 variant and rumoured 120mm cannon variants). Its also literally like 99.9% immune to most anti-tank mines post cold war in terms of crew survivability, and most were made mobile again with minor field repairs. South Africa was one of the first nations to move towards larger wheeled fighting vehicles due to the unique conditions of the angolan border war, we needed our vehicles to be able to do 100+kph on public roads to get out to the border, the Ratel 90 came in at 19tons and could hit 65mph though a lot of the oakes ive spoken to that used to drive them have said they sit happy at 120 (i think thats 70mph)

[@camer5371]

yo a point that may be interesting to think about as there arent any real exhausts perhaps the ports on the side that look like crew weapon slots could actually be exhaust ports and the hatches are there so that crew can close these ports for short periods to either help with stealth so there are no plumes of smoke leaving the vehicle or so you can close them when going through muddy and dirty terrain to stop things heading straight to the reactor and damaging it similar in nature to how the sentry guard bots can cover their fusion cores to reduce damage to the vital components but after a while of use need to be vented to allow for cooling. This would explain why most if not all of the ones we see are open because they were engaged and could not close them before persishing and also you would not need to close them in residential areas because the likelihood of a bullet perfectly ricocheting down one of the exhaust ports all the way to the engine is slim to none.

[@karlniewinski8671]

Great quality video! Subscribed

[@spydingo]

Thank you and welcome!

[@Snailman1999]

I also feel the two 76mm ball turrets might have been used as oversized riot launchers before the bombs fell, just with a low pressure charge and a massive less lethal payload like CS gas or a stack pf rubber pucks or pellets, the guns could also be akin to 40k bolters in that a solid often cased charge is used to launch the rocket out of the barrel at lethal velocity before the rocket motors ignite, although with plasma or most impact detonated rounds initial velocity is less important

[@Hassan_2030]

This is no APC it is a wheeled IFV!

[@asian_devistation6051]

I don't know about the nuclear powerplant making it faster, the nuclear power would probably be used to turn a turbine for electric motors (Like the M1's turbine engine). I was also going to mention power to weight but fallout nuclear power works different I guess. I'm mostly just looking at fusion core stations when I think of this unless the fusion cores provide heat to water or something to turn the internal turbine/generator combo

[@cerealslayer7291]

only thing im really thinkin about is how the power armor soldier may not have been able to sit down in the vehicle because of their armor bulging out on the back, because the chair being sat on by the power armor clad soldier in the beginning sequence doesnt have a back to it. just a thought though, amazing video

[@colonelautumn4169]

I'm so glad you I found your channel, perhaps maybe in addition in your videos, maybe explain how you would make design choices to make the vehicle better and your opinion?

[@spydingo]

I'm glad too! That's a good idea. A "What would Dingo do?" type of segment. I'll take a look at doing such a thing in my next next video (The one I've been working on is already done).

[@colonelautumn4169]

@@spydingo love it! It would be cool to see your take on how to improve some designs especially since if I was in fallout universe's army I would pray so hard not to end up as a tank crewman😂. Another idea that I think would be pretty cool if maybe sometimes you had a video where some fans would submit their designs on either improving already presisting fallout military vehicles, tanks, etc or brand new ones. Maybe ths best would be voted on🤷‍♂️

[@dexterharris176]

great work love ur vid keep em coming plz

[@spydingo]

Thanks! I'll try!

[@lolingstones9262]

To help with the physics as long as the large turret fires straight forward or backwards it will remain stable with little movement, almost no movement of the air brakes is engage (assuming it has air brakes) if it fires side to side it won’t flip but it can really f up the vehicle platform making one side lower to the ground,

[@spydingo]

Both very fair points, but I really wanted to throw in those simple animations lol

[@commandergaming3808]

would really enjoy seeing you cover the VTOL

[@spydingo]

Thank you! That's actually what I'm working on now, the script is already up to 13 min, its going to be a while and boy howdy am I going to be busy. I hope it ends up being worth the wait for y'all.

[@yourwifesboyfriend1485]

The missing gunports make sense if you consider the war is probably taking up the best most advanced vehicles and that these are probably older models that may have been retrofited with newer parts thus blocking the interior gunports.

[@spydingo]

That's a good theory! I prefer that over developer oversight for sure.

[@josif409]

Would love to see a video about the survival camp apc

[@georgesgranger6362]

Honestly seeing the APC, tank and the Jets? I always wanted them to be a special addition to WarThunder just to see how it would be modeled and what the physics would look like as well as how 'effective' it would be as an IFV given the gun on the very top and the MGs looking like they could be atleast a 50 cal or 20mm HMG

[@sofielee4122]

I always figured that top gun and turret were meant to be a like, fallout-ified version of the M551 Sheridan's turret and 152mm low velocity gun/atgm launcher

[@yeoldewar1014]

The cannons could be low velocity recoilless guns designed mainly to throw out HE rounds thus minimizing the stress on the vehicles suspension.

[@mxcokoko]

Two notes: 1 - The 'Hermit' could actually be made by whomever made the buses seen throughout the Commonwealth; the frontal silhouette looks quite familiar. 2 - I think a crew of 3 would make sense. Commander, Driver, and Gunner (on the two 76mm or machine gun ball turrets; if the main gun is autonomous it stands to reason the two frontal guns would at the very least be semi-automated). The Commander, if needed, could probably manually fire the dorsal gun, letting the Driver and Gunner continue doing their thing.

[@mattp2557]

The side plates look like they got added late like some sort of upgrade pack or maybe done by the crew like they did with tanks in ww2 best known for it was the sherman they add plates to the front and sides sometimes they even added concrete

[@spydingo]

Thanks for the comment! That's an interesting thought. Kinda like the cages being put on Russian tanks in the current conflict, and equally non effective in this case I would suspect. I mean, there is so much surface area those plates don't cover.

[@mattp2557]

@@spydingo it was more of a moral boost for the crew or thinking about it maybe they can be taken off to make some sort of barrier the cutouts being slots to join them?

[@Jake-dh9qk]

@@mattp2557 Those plates on the side of sherman actually did offer protection against smaller anti-tank weapons like the german 37mm who would often ambush tanks. Those plates cover mainly ammo locations so they can't be blown up by an ambushing it. When angled it can also stop some larger cannons too

[@mattp2557]

@@Jake-dh9qk yes they did offer some practical use but against the rocket launchers of the time and bigger gun they didn't help is what I ment I could have worded it better if the plates had a gap like with the panzer 4 g it might have been better. The firefly was probably the best version before the e8 in ww2 the sherman was heavily upgraded by the end of the war.

[@skinny878]

You know, following the pattern of your previous video, "Chryslus Hermit" sounds like an ace name for it! Also maybe add '4 and 76' after Fallout in the title to match the first video? It might get more views that way

[@spydingo]

I think if I was going to go with the Chryslus corp as the manufacturer I'd use Corvega, just for some variety... and I guess because the hermit is slightly more sporty? idk lol. That's a good idea, I completely forgot the Chryslus Patton was even in 76 to be honest.

[@skinny878]

@@spydingo so what's next? Maybe that Chimera 'fake' tank from the Operation Anchorage DLC?

[@Maxa12]

I can see your points, my first thought is: What if we think about this the wrong way? What if it was made for crowdcontroll first, and then huried to be adapted to military use? might help explaine some of the weird quircks you mentioned. Like the shoting slots and the lack of angles. It might also explaine the size of the main armament, as it might originaly have been a watercannon, and thus the hight actualy being a positive.

[@Sundance967]

I love the name you gave it, but I’ll be honest “West Tek Hermit” sounds like some sort of folk tale about a hermit living in a west tek facility, able to control everything in it

[@Duke_of_Petchington]

with the 105mm gun, the vehicle is actually a Mobile Gun System or MGS.

[@AlbinoRhino1886]

You just got a sub based on quality alone . If I didnt see your sub count and had to guess I'd have to say atleast 400k-500k

[@spydingo]

Hey thanks for the sub! I'm glad those advance animation and multimedia courses I took in high school over a decade ago are finally paying off lol

[@WardenWolf]

The value of crew comfort in an APC cannot be overstated. A unit that arrives well-rested is going to be far more combat effective than one that's fatigued from being bumped around for hours. That's why the new JLTV is such a huge deal beyond just better armor: improved suspension and air conditioning that actually works. The original Humvees had windows that could open and doors that could easily be removed. As they up-armored them, the windows no longer opened and the doors had to stay on, and the suspension was overstressed so the ride got worse. This coupled with an unreliable 1980s-era air conditioning system meant crew members would often arrive to the field drenched in their own sweat. As for the design of the Fallout APC, at least they're not still using the M113 in 2077, something I could unfortunately see happening.

[@odst2247]

Maybe the variants we see are Natuonal guard or home variants. Theyre suppose to be used in urban areas, which makes it make a little more sense why they have wheeps.

[@josephmontanaro2350]

This might be what an APC would evolve into in a power armor world, the heavy arment might seem excessive for today but could be needed for defense against other light armor or the potential use of hostile power armor (granted I don't think china at the time had a counterpart, this might just be future proofing), the wheeled nature could mean this is mainly a battle taxi, it brings your power armor up to the front line, drops them off, extending their range, saving fuel (probably uses way less nuclear fuel to move the power armor this way then walk it out there) and giving a slightly more durable package (something that might be able to mess up power armor could probably damage this vehicle but would probably take way more punishment as long as a critical system isn't hit), even if it can only hold 2 suits at once, would you rather walk a section across open ground where they could get blasted by artillery and light anti armor weapons or truck them as close as you can safely then drop them off), the weapons also might not be energy or conventional cannons but possibly grenade launchers, low pressure guns (like on the AML-90 and the BMP-1) or even a downscaled demolition mortar like you would see on something like the 165mm on the M728 CEV or even flamethrowers (some actual flamethrower vehicles had dummy guns that had smaller barrels for the flamethrowers to prevent them from getting singled out when trying to close the gap to engage)

[@spydingo]

I like your battle taxi interpretation, it makes a lot of sense to me. Also now that you mentioned flamethrowers, I really, really, want to see a vehicle with plasma throwers. That would be awesome!

[@kezmsfilms1300]

Thinking, the fireing slots could be view ports for the drivers or more exhausts. But also some are labled as "Steps" so they seem like a way to get ontop of the vehicle. Also, an easy way to explain away the extra slots and gun ports is you could say they where Dummy Ports, so enemy soldiers would be firing at these supposed holes to the crew, rather than important structural places like the door hinges or wheels. Also, they could just be hair vents to allow the cew inside the main compartment to breath, being ableto be closed and sealed if you want to tread water, which seems likely with ghat submersible look that was mentioned. But, all these are just possible excuses, as most likely it just comes down to design decisions that they either forgot about or chose cause it looks cool, as is a take as old as time

[@leaaronsanchez]

I thought the same thing about the gun slots when I first saw it.

[@jandraelune1]

BTR and Bradley were both first designed with radiation survival in mind.

[@skinny878]

Hell yeah brother! More of that obscure Fallout lore

[@spydingo]

Thanks! I appreciate the support!

[@BouncingTribbles]

I remember I laughed out loud when I first saw the APCs. That top cannon is insane, and having two more ball turrets that are also huge is hilarious. The fact that they're in shot traps was also glaringly obvious. A 5mm on top and a couple MG turrets would make sense, but that kind of firepower on a wheeled apc is silly.

[@magwumpus]

I love the name. It’s the Hermit in my head canon now.

[@wrenchtheroo6557]

for the main gun, it could be possible that it would use a rocket system similar to what bmp 1 uses

[@battysparton65]

Huh.. Laser weapons actually makes a lot of sense. Also I have a theory about crew complement myself. My guess is its two man. The driver and the Commander/radio operator/co-driver. My guess is the driver operates the forward facing weapons from his station like some older vehicles with fixed machine guns like older model M2 and M3 light tanks, M3 Mediums, BMDs and other similar vics. The driver probably sits in the driver hatch while the Commander either operates the gun turret, if extremely cramped, or like you suggested remotely but there's not clear station for him to use or enter. This also could support the vehicle is just one man and the driver does everything, only using the top turret when the vehicle is parked. Though a tandem seat arrangement could also work, though entry would mean commander first while exit is driver first. Not very good for rapid entry or rapid escape in a combat situation. Laser weapons do make sense as you are right there are no ways to get arid of spent shell casings. Though I doubt a cannon would cause it to flip. The M1128 MGS sure doesn't have that problem. At least not that I am aware of. And its armed with a 105mm in a remote gun position.

[@spydingo]

Hello there! Thanks for your comment. I think the tandem seat arrangement makes sense given the drivers slits present lower in the cabin and in the upper hatch. Each crew member would get their own vison slit, must be nice lol. Though, now that I look at it again, upper crew man would be practically sitting on the other's shoulders...hmm. Your right of coarse, the cannon probably would not cause it to flip, but I really liked the animation to illustrate my point lol.

[@shawnfortine3199]

I could of swore I’ve seen some tract versions of the hermit and what if those firing slots aren’t firing slots but instead meant for something else and the little doors closed to make it more water proof to float or literally drive at the bottom of a lake or river

[@shawnfortine3199]

Update I played this last night and one of the quick camps is a tracked version

[@bobdickens3674]

I’d like to add that shot traps didn’t really matter all that much post-WW2 as chemical rounds weren’t affected by them, and higher velocity rounds would shatter before every being able to abuse a shot trap. So I wouldn’t really say that that is a design flaw necessarily

[@takeeto9894]

Remember, Mass scales exponentially, so if the actual Dragoon is 25T, the Hermit is probably more like 60 Tons, especially considering how thick that steel is.

[@FalloutProto]

You mentioned there being no real-world nuclear APC (which I assume means nuclear powered) but the concept of the APC and IFV first became a concept for hauling troops through irradiated battlefields and for hauling nuclear materials themselves, much like you see in-game.

[@wonderflounium]

Wouldn't a hermit crab have an easier time going in the back? If the rear doors were blown/rusted/stolen off, and the transmission was left in neutral it would be what I would pick if I was a giant hermit crab.

[@CaptainBlythe]

I'm forever going to be calling this thing Hermit now. Thank you!

[@thatcrazyguy1208]

Well at least with the Fallout series out now, we know there are flaw designs present in Power Armor made by West Tek, meaning they probably ignored similar flaws in anything else they sold the military, more concerned with rushing production to get it to the front and make some money than make a good product.

[@satlypepsi]

The dragoon I swear one time I saw at least 30 of them being transported by train one time

[@kolinmartz]

6:31 I do love all this attention to detail. But I hate how it’s lacking in a troop door that’s independent of the ramp. Sometimes you need that infantry out real quick.

[@devilgamer-rr8639]

the apc with the hermit looks likte something straight out of Metal Slug

[@maxxtoan8596]

Ah yes,1st boss from Metal Slug 3

[@spydingo]

Thanks for pointing that out!

[@Oatmealism]

The Survival Tent APC version of this thing is actually tracked in 76

[@Beepers559]

‘Kay, imma be real, I love how this and the tanks look

[@panzerjagertigerporsche]

11:25 if you think about it, those might be extra slits for cameras so the driver can see the sides of the APC/IFV to see if they have enemies sneaking up on their sides

[@spydingo]

Thanks for commenting! That is an interesting thought and an interesting tradeoff. Leave the gap in the armor for increased survivability for the cameras, or just mount the cameras external and not have the potential vulnerability.

[@ImmortalAbsol]

I don't know how fast a vehicle with tracks can go but it would have to be significantly faster than you can sprint in power armour to make sense in this application.

[@traehanson6013]

The Striker has a 105mm gun and is a vehicle that's wheeled. It does shake but not much when firing and weighs less than this fallout APC.

[@jocax188723]

APC is technically a specific variant of an acronym known as an initialism, actually. Acronyms are usually pronounced as one word (ie. NASA, NATO, GIF) while initialisms use the letters (ie. APC, CIA, YMCA).

[@GregItUp]

HERMIT - Harsh Environmental Recon and Mechanized Infantry Transport

[@accalt6519]

Subscribed because of that Acronym and Abbreviation fact 💯

[@XOFInfantryman]

Look wise it kinda has silhouette of a very chubby LAV-25 IFV mixed M551 Sheridan Light Tank, mainly Gun which kinda looks to me like M81E1 Rifled 152 mm Gun/Launcher

[@spydingo]

I wish the 'Hermit' had 8 wheels to spread out its weight like the LAV-25 IFV you mentioned does, oh man and that vehicle is only 12 tones. You arn't kidding, a veeeeery chubby silhouette indeed. I also see the similarities in the Sheridans gun, I think mainly because its so short and thick. Thanks for the comment!

[@shadecaelus7605]

I'd go with ATV (Armored Transport Vehicle) since the vehicle is used for not just troops, but medical equipment and hazardous materials. Plus I'm unaware of any in-game vehicles similar to the real world's atv's/quads for powersports, or other vehicles that may already have that title.

[@shadecaelus7605]

Decision based on information at 0:40

[@RocketHarry865]

Honestly I wonder if they should have gone with experimental APC projects from the 50's to the 70's. The FMC XM723 and the XM765 would be great choices

[@Jake-dh9qk]

It's possible this vehicle was designed mainly for US soil as homeland defense against mostly small arms and hand-held carried anti-tank weapons, hence the lack of conventional IFV designs you would find in real world examples where it's focused on concealment and maximum utilization of angled armor. This is why we also see a lot of these vehicles littered around checkpoints because it seems to act as a barrier-vehicle as well. This then makes it likely that the vehicle's main guns would likely to be firing low-velocity ammunition since they will be facing mostly infantry and light airborne vehicles at short distances. Another big giveaway is the space between outside layer of armor and the inner compartment. This indicates spaced armor which are excellent at defeating chemical weapons that airborne-units would bring with them. It's also a pretty heavy vehicle so it can't be deployed rapidly overseas as well. It's weight + wheeled configuration meant that it can only perform well on paved road.

[@spydingo]

Very well said, I think I agree with all of that!

[@milanmali9013]

8:04 Compared to the tank, the APC would have the same turning radius, as it has the skid steering/steering like a tank, meaning it can skid turn/rotate around itself, thus, same performance as the tank.

[@ryang2573]

The army should have had ROBCO make their APCs. Even after nuclear Armageddon, two centuries of exposure to the elements, and no maintenance, you still see hundreds of ROBCO terminals not only operational, but still actively operating.