I’ve always thought that the canon ending to fo4 was the minutemen ending and this reveal only makes me more certain
@Snappybiscuits6 ай бұрын
So Preston finally won? I can't tell if that's a good or bad thing.....
@ButtersPringles6 ай бұрын
@@Snappybiscuits I mean as annoying as he may be, his morals are probably better than Maxon’s 😂
@Alex-pj8nz6 ай бұрын
Nope, if they won the BOS will eventually start a war with each other due to the railroad. It’s a BOS ending.
@Magalas6 ай бұрын
@@Alex-pj8nz the minutemen have no direct affiliation with the railroad, and awar with the minutemen sound pretty unlikely as most bos hugh graded support the lone wanderer's choice of using the minutemen to destroy the institute
@erickalv_23356 ай бұрын
@@MagalasI agree
@PoweredbyidTech6 ай бұрын
I think a Brotherhood/Minutemen ending would be best. The show mentions "highest clerics of the Commonwealth" so it sounds like the Brotherhood stuck around and didn't all go back to DC. At this rate they must have a pretty firm grip on the East Coast
@count-countess84646 ай бұрын
I want a specific Minutemen ending its honestly the only ending where you only lose the institute the Railroad isn't destroyed just will Have a different purpose and your still friendly to the Brotherhood
@flawlessgamer75496 ай бұрын
Could the sole survivor be that high cleric? Or perhaps and elder.
@brokengamer96756 ай бұрын
Considering they are so thin on the west, I'd say their main command is now in the East.
@rockettalk12206 ай бұрын
@@brokengamer9675well, they came out of the west. You don’t hear much about the real brotherhood HQ though
@Alex-pj8nz6 ай бұрын
Yup, a minute man ending will have the railroad cause a war between the BOS and minuteman so it’s not canon.
@morgansthatsus61826 ай бұрын
I think my head cannon is my character steps out the vault and almost instantly dies
@davidlz8306 ай бұрын
Realistic
@dependent-ability86315 ай бұрын
immediately gets rad flu and dies in excruciating pain (they don't have any immunity to post war diseases)
@Clownk1ller2 ай бұрын
Considering I played on survival. YEAH you're probably right
@sketchflix64252 ай бұрын
Ultra realism 8k Dolby surround sound.
@YorikoificationАй бұрын
You took a wrong turn and you get eaten by Deathclaws. Or you picked Nora and you get hosed down by all the raiders at the museum because she has no military training whatsoever. Or like others have said, radiation and diseases. So many ways to die...
@yeetmcskeet95336 ай бұрын
The whole theme of FO4 is colonial/being in the commonwealth. It makes sense the intended cannon ending is the Minutemen ending.
@nade72425 ай бұрын
if it isn't I am gonna riot
@jonathancunningham87395 ай бұрын
@@nade7242 Don't worry this will be west coasts they won't mention much of the Commonwealth.
@Giliver5 ай бұрын
@@nade7242it genuinely doesn't matter.
@XIIOSRS5 ай бұрын
Nah I disagree
@Porterpotty344 ай бұрын
I’ll mark on your map
@thomasspielman5775 ай бұрын
Bethesda has a hard-on for BoS so you can pretty much guarantee that they are going to come out on top or at least survive every scenario in the series.
@raven_ARKNETsWarfare3 ай бұрын
"Somehow the enclave return"
@GTAVictor91282 ай бұрын
@@raven_ARKNETsWarfare And the supermutants
@dank-n-clips2 ай бұрын
I mean they're the jedi of fallout, protecting others even if it means killing innocents to save humans as a whole. Too many soyboy's crying about fascism in a nuclear apocalypse when world before was 100x worse with corporations controlling the country
@mrscaryfox39552 ай бұрын
Bro the BoS are amazing and complex of course they needed to be in the show
@thomasspielman5772 ай бұрын
@mrscaryfox3955 A group of self-righteous pretentious hoarders isn't that amazing or complex. They're interesting, but not much more interesting than any other group/faction.
@salzysisters57996 ай бұрын
Lots of evidence the Minuteman survived. Including the radio station. Not only was it playing the Minutemen's music, but he also knew clearly what was going on when the vertibird showed up
@manfridchicken12635 ай бұрын
ah yes the minutemen own all classical music and anyone who has classical music is a minuteman
@salzysisters57995 ай бұрын
@@manfridchicken1263 they certainly use that music for recruitment and information dissemination on their broadcast network. Seems logical that it's what it's being used for in this instance.
@masonajmufasamurphy24964 ай бұрын
@@salzysisters5799so minute men jump ship carpooled other side country with manifest destiny with music
@daninda16654 ай бұрын
While the reference to the Minutemen was fun, I highly doubt the Minutemen faction has the resources to even get some form of influence across the country. Perhaps through the years traders and caravans have passed along stories of the Minutemen from the Commonwealth, but I severely doubt they have any connection to the west coast
@masonajmufasamurphy24964 ай бұрын
Just one dude radio operator castle
@SebastianArredondo-i2t6 ай бұрын
Dude it's possible the minutemen won the fallout 4 because if you play close attention to one of the episodes you will hear the minutemen radio you know from the castle
@nicholasbrown6686 ай бұрын
its shown later on that its just some crazy dude playing the original recordings over the radio (and a lot of people have tried to stop him because of how terrible the music is)
@SyIis6 ай бұрын
@nicholasbrown668 Doesn't that seem fallout odd to you? A loan, seemingly dorky weak type held off all these people with just booby traps? Seems like a good cover
@GuderianZ6 ай бұрын
What the whole season
@GuderianZ6 ай бұрын
@@nicholasbrown668the guy was never crazy or that old
@SyIis6 ай бұрын
@@nicholasbrown668 Some nerdy music guy that somehow wards off all these people who just walk into booby traps all day is a great front cover for a secret organization or agent.
@xavierkazoo16196 ай бұрын
You can get a Minuteman Ending where both the Brotherhood and the Railroad survive with the only casualty being the Institute.
@ryanator79356 ай бұрын
Yes he states that in the video
@JhonAbiko6 ай бұрын
I always kill the railroad the moment they give me the stuff i need i fell like the world is a better place without them
@raverdeath1006 ай бұрын
you can but Capt Kells and PAM will give you the quests to wipeout the other if you talk to them. not really an "ending"
@jacobsalter86536 ай бұрын
I reckon it’s the minutemen and brother hood
@davidinass6 ай бұрын
@@JhonAbikowhat the railroad did to you? If anything it's the brotherhood is the most problematic. Forcing people to give them food and don't care about saving people and only taking or stealing technology. Let's not forget they tried to kill my boy danse.
@ianbailey39246 ай бұрын
I think the minutemen ending with a shaky non aggression pact with the BoS is pretty much canon. I can see the general forcing the brotherhood to leave after the destruction of the institute. "Go or we blow your ship up" basically.
@midgetman42062 күн бұрын
I doubt he'd force them to leave. With Nate in charge of pretty much every civilian, the BoS wouldn't be able to rob food and resources anymore. It'd be more of a strong armed cooperation. They'd take all of the technology they deem useful in the area and then leave, leaving behind a force for continued cooperation.
@hmorrison1556 ай бұрын
I think it’s definitely the minutemen route. I can see the Sole Survivor siding with the MM the most since they are the general and leader of it.
@TheSlimCognito4 ай бұрын
That's true, but I believe the more important reason is what the minutemen stand for. They are the only faction doing what they do for others and not for themselves or out of hatred of others. They genuinely want to help the citizens and keep them safe. Railroad I feel is doing what they do out of spite and activism. BOS and institute are self explanatory. All that said, the sole survivor is pre-war and hasn't been corrupted by the wasteland, so they have the same values as was found before the war and more closely relate to their goals.
@SLKibara2 ай бұрын
@@TheSlimCognitoESPECIALLY with Nate and Nora's backstories. Nate was a soldier and Nora was a lawyer. They both value law and order above all else. But they won't sacrifices their morals and values to achieve it.
@Latvijas_Amēlija2 ай бұрын
Nate or nora surviving that lomg is just not plausable. It wouldnt be canon. Crawling out of a vault after 200 years on ice. You would be SEVERELY weak for starters. And leaving the vault with nothing but a suit and a 9mm? Lol...🤔 @@SLKibara
@SLKibara2 ай бұрын
@@Latvijas_Amēlija Ghouls and Robobrains also don't exist in the real world and it wouldn't be possible for either to survive severe radiation or extended suspended animation. So I think a cryo chamber that has some life support would be far more believable than either of those two things combined.
@Latvijas_Amēlija2 ай бұрын
@@SLKibara whos talking about real life? Lol wtf
@mr.tbutler42946 ай бұрын
Plot twist The Institute successfully create a Synth of Elder Maxon & now control The Brotherhood Of Steel.
@imonthemoonrn6 ай бұрын
Subversion mod ahh ending
@imonthemoonrn6 ай бұрын
Subversion mod ahh ending
@aeleeya6 ай бұрын
Just like DiMA in Far Harbor
@Thekilleroftanks6 ай бұрын
They only would be controlling the east brotherhood The other major factions of brotherhood are very separated and wants to keep it that way. The mid west and Texas have very much separated themselves from even the extreme branches of the BOS and even the western BOS likely would butt heads with the eastern BOS.
@nicholasbrown6686 ай бұрын
@@ThekilleroftanksThe Western Brotherhood declared Maxon as the Supreme Commander of the Brotherhood and the High Elder in F04, there are terminal entries stating they started to conform to his vision and put down cults that worshipped him as a messiah
@gpheonix16 ай бұрын
wait a minute. that's actually really big. that means liberty prime being alive is now canon.
@BrotatoeGod6 ай бұрын
Which possible canon ending are you thinking of? I asume the BOS
@UraniumFever766 ай бұрын
@@BrotatoeGod yeah it’s not a guarantee in the minuteman one but is possible. Using Professor Scara and acquiring the beryllium agitator+nukes post-game does seem possible with no war against the Institute active
@isaacgould59746 ай бұрын
Possible cannon. It's like a 50/50 chance.
@theoneandonlyMauser6 ай бұрын
WE GOT THE SAME PFP WOOOO
@dildonius6 ай бұрын
@@BrotatoeGodIt's obviously Minutemen. That always seemed like the route they WANTED you to go down.
@chewbacca71546 ай бұрын
I always felt that minute men was cannon as the game pushes you into their quests immediately, while the others take some more work
@mr.factoid1056 ай бұрын
The only reason I doubted that was that It wasn't easy to trigger it. I found that you have to go out of your way to get it
@Feonir446 ай бұрын
The Minutemen ending is the safety net, it is the only ending that, without bugs or mods, you cannot fail your way out of. All other factional endings can be failed.
@FurukawaAkane6 ай бұрын
@@Feonir44Pursuing the Raiders quest line in Nuka-World can fail the Minutemen, as Preston Garvey can get so pissed at you he will no longer talk to you depending on how much you’ve interacted with the Minutemen quests.
@yatrtiah6 ай бұрын
That's a weird logic, not gonna lie
@Feonir446 ай бұрын
@@FurukawaAkane Preston hating you does not lock you out of the minimen ending.
@DABOLICALC4 ай бұрын
Since the ghoul was in Alaska and probably saw liberty prime imagine he is just fighting against the brotherhood and hears “liberty prime, back online” dude would shit bricks
@AnestiiW7.30.243 ай бұрын
Liberty Prime was never deployed to Alaska. The project was scrapped due to power issues that made the robot inoperable. The first use was 200 years after the bombs dropped.
@RedHatter41Ай бұрын
*"You gotta be fuckin' kiddin' me."*
@vectorphoenix59925 ай бұрын
Note that when asking Captain kells about prydwin, he mentions that there are other airships like it. Plus, the producers themselves said they won't touch any of the previous games' protagonists or their outcome either.
@MEGAyognauts6 ай бұрын
It’s a shame we didn’t see or hear about Arthur Maxon. I was hoping he would still be in the picture. Also the brotherhood chapter on the West coast we see seem rather radical. Killing squires seems a bit insane.
@UraniumFever766 ай бұрын
Honestly I’m sure he is. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the one behind these radical changes we’ve seen.
@gpheonix16 ай бұрын
@@UraniumFever76 what kind of changes?
@UraniumFever766 ай бұрын
@@gpheonix1 I’m working on a big lore roundup at the moment where I will cover all the new stuff mate
@bootsfluffy94766 ай бұрын
Who wouldn't become radical if the god damn NCR beat them
@davidcrist59596 ай бұрын
I feel like if they are fighting a war… a new war they need every single person they can get their hands on… now unless you have proven your worth… you are completely disposable.
@icelord026 ай бұрын
Lets all not forget you see a Lazer Musket in the general store in philly run by ma june. When lucy goes in there during the ghouls attack to look at the ledger, you can see a lazer musket on the wall in the back. Clearly indicates minutemen presence.
@kyosokutai6 ай бұрын
Ah yes, because only one faction can slap together a mason jar with a car battery and break apart a working laser rifle to make a shittier laser rifle.
@nicholasbrown6686 ай бұрын
@@kyosokutaiwhy would another faction make a crank operated laser musket? the Minutemen really only did it to fit the picture of their group
@2ndrangersww26 ай бұрын
I'd like to think in the 10 or so years since fallout 4 the commonwealth has become more civilized and tame, allowing people to make their way across the country. Possibly a minuteman vet sold it to someone who sold it to someone who sold it to someone else and ended up there.
@christianwilson59566 ай бұрын
The brotherhood of steel ending does not involve any conflict with the minutemen. The only ending that does is the minutemen if you choose to destroy the prydwen. This means the cannon endings are brotherhood or minutemen ending without attacking the brotherhood.
@caliber53026 ай бұрын
Not to be that guy, but im pretty sure that the laser muskets are made from broken/dysfunctional laser rifles, or maybe were just completely jury rigged together from a few pieces of the shell, and yeah, a mason jar and a 2x4@@kyosokutai
@ashcarrier66066 ай бұрын
It can't be the Pridwyn. I watched my artillery bring that thing down.
@Nerazmus6 ай бұрын
It isn't Prydwyn. The airship in the TV series is named The Caswennan.
@TheOGHodor6 ай бұрын
He literally shows the name in the show…it’s the prydwen
@Nerazmus6 ай бұрын
@@TheOGHodor Nope. Producers literally confirmed that it is not the Prydwen. It even looks completely different from FO4 Prydwen.
@TheDarkZoren6 ай бұрын
@@Nerazmusthat was pre release misdirection. The name Pridwyn is literally written on the ship in the show.
@jonathanking73616 ай бұрын
It's not....the brotherhood in the show is from the western bos. The founder chapter. The eastern bos we meet in fallout 3 and 4 hates the western because they have different beliefs.
@doctor-61236 ай бұрын
Three actually, there is an ending where the minutemen, railroad, and brotherhood all survive. It’s hard to do and takes many steps, but it is a possibility.
@zachfila4 ай бұрын
It’s not hard just don’t do any railroad missions once you join and don’t do the missions where you have to kill another faction.
@doctor-61234 ай бұрын
@@zachfila nope, there is a video on it. You use the minutemen to enter the institute, make sure you get tradecraft, get banished, join the brotherhood, gather all side missions but don’t do mission where you attack the island with the super mutants, do all the rail road missions, done.
@iminvigorator72456 ай бұрын
Cant wait for the new season for Preston to pop up and ask the dweller a settlement needs her help.
@hillweggs6414 ай бұрын
*tell
@JamesMJaime6 ай бұрын
Bethesda can't go 5 mins without shoving the BoS and Liberty Prime in every single piece of Fallout media.
@hammyofdoom83556 ай бұрын
I’m not complaining. The BoS is the coolest faction excluding maybe the enclave.
@Tattletale-Delta6 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, Interplay/Black Isle made 2 games entirely dedicated to them, and also retconned most of FO1/FO2's lore.
@JamesMJaime6 ай бұрын
@Tattletale__ And people hated it back then too.
@Tattletale-Delta6 ай бұрын
Sure, but New Vegas fans sure love to ignore it ever happened. It's funny. Everyone else, almost every other Fallout fan, all seem to love the show. It's just the New Vegas crybabies. They cried so hard the New Vegas subreddit had to temporarily shut down and go private.
@tylersuarez73556 ай бұрын
I mean if you look at the lore they’re literally the main faction it canonically makes sense they’re everywhere we’ve seen them
@Incogneato6 ай бұрын
Didn't the director say the show wouldn't make any of the games' endings canon?
@samuelbishop17016 ай бұрын
I don't recall. But considering the Institute being destroyed is definitely canon anyway I am not sure it affects too much.
@martinsonneborn68206 ай бұрын
Where did U hear that?@@samuelbishop1701
@mtk18086 ай бұрын
It didn't make any ending canon. Inferior beings can't think critically and are unable to come up with logical conclusions as to why the prydwen is in the show. It could've been rebuilt if destroyed, it could've been because the brotherhood won, maybe it's another vessel with the same name in honor of the original given that Massachusetts and California are in 2 different sides of the country. Given how many options there are for the prydwen to exist we can all rest easy knowing no endings are canonized.
@justsomebody54506 ай бұрын
@@mtk1808no because if i remember correctly they just found the thing also the brotherhood cannot rebuild the vessel if was destroyed considering they don't know how it was made the brotherhood would probably another 100 years before they could another and that is with luck.
@nigelthornberry75136 ай бұрын
@@justsomebody5450 nope they made it after the war with the enclave, they did not find it, so they could rebuild it. But tbh to say that this does not make any ending cannon is nothing but massive cope. The exact same ship, with the exact name, that looks identical, I mean come on put the copeium tank down lol.
@Bison066 ай бұрын
The minutemen being the canon ending makes the most sense, they were always fallout 4s back up if you went against every other faction
@smward876 ай бұрын
Yup. Even if you become a raider in Nuka World and take over all your own settlements, you're still the General of the Minuteman and no one can stop you lol. It's the only faction where your character is actually in charge so there are no consequences for your actions.
@Themunnyman4 ай бұрын
Bro you dont know how excited i was when they first showed the guys digging up the ghoul and i thought the brick building in the background was The Castle
@SadBugBurger6 ай бұрын
It’s disappointing that the institute is basically gone forever now, they had a lot of potential
@dimitrivasyulivich35916 ай бұрын
Yeah my favorite faction
@Predated25 ай бұрын
I mean, it is theoretically possible that the Sole Survivor was never awakened. That does allow the institute and the BOS remaining alive, since the BOS has no way of finding out where the institute is. And the institute doesnt really fight back untill the Sole Survivor entering the institute. It is entirely possible the Sole Survivor ends up finding Sean without siding with any faction too. This is entirely possible, since Fallout 3 and NV dont really have canon endings either. They have canon moments, but what is and isnt canon to the next games is spread out over different endings.
@silverjohn60375 ай бұрын
Their base is gone, not necessarily the Institute as an organization.
@mysteriousclem19805 ай бұрын
I wouldn't rule out there being some kind of institute remnant. There's no way to say for certain that all of them were in the institute when it went up in flames
@SadBugBurger5 ай бұрын
@@silverjohn6037 when you enter the institute, you are welcomed to THE institute, not an institute base/hub. I highly doubt anyone survived the explosion either
@itsaidanwithaneh6 ай бұрын
Minutemen Ending has always been my go-to. There's something poetic about essentially building the faction up and having the entire Commonwealth come together to destroy the Institute
@tugalord6 ай бұрын
maybe we could see them becoming its own nation, maybe learning from the mistakes of the NCR (i'd say it would be interesting to see them becoming a constitutional monarchy with the SS as the King, since many People wanted George Washington to become King after the U.S independence).
@MrVictor12276 ай бұрын
Boring
@itsaidanwithaneh6 ай бұрын
@@MrVictor1227 Better than being like "Haha cool power armor and lasers" and then blasting settlements that don't give you food
@MrVictor12276 ай бұрын
@@itsaidanwithaneh I dont care what is the best. I care what looks cool or unique and BoS is cooler than Minutemen
@tugalord6 ай бұрын
My idea took inspiration from the articles of confederation (and early U.S, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, the Holy Roman Empire and the First French Empire). It would be somewhat of an "anti-NCR" (having a "similar" system yet having a much different culture (possibly very socially conservative, even if it would vary from place to place), somewhat different economics (laissez faire capitalism and fiscal conservatism,) and being more isolationist by the time they consolidate power in the North East. It would be interesting if the minutemen have to strip some of their idealism so the Commonwealth is able to survive in the world of Fallout, with policies that could be seen as contradicting their original values (such as a swiss style conscription system and a relatively large military).
@BrotatoeGod6 ай бұрын
I believe Minutemen ending to be canon because they leave possible future storys about the Railroad, Minutemen, and BOS to be developed For people saying the Railroad is pointless without the Institute, then I say they can still help stray synths and destroy Institute pockets, and maybe they can develop a new mission
@Tattletale-Delta6 ай бұрын
However with the Institute destroyed, the Railroad become entirely pointless as a faction. They literally only existed to free synths and destroy the Institute.
@TheBestPybro6 ай бұрын
@@Tattletale-Delta The railroad would either dissolve or shift focus to something else after the institutes destruction. They might just join the minutemen as a black ops unit or something weird. That's what I'd do
@Tattletale-Delta6 ай бұрын
@@TheBestPybro If they weren't so extreme in their ideology I could definitely see the integrating into the Minutemen. Deacon, Tinker Tom, and some of the background members I could see, but Desdemona? Glory? I couldn't see them integrating into anything.
@biohazard_the_potato_muncher6 ай бұрын
@@Tattletale-Delta destroying the institute makes all synth free but there still some to hunt/save like the diamond city mayor which regardless of the institute being destroyed he still loyal to them They would probably focus on that and maybe ally with the minutemen by sending the synths to live on minutemen settlements
@JJK102936 ай бұрын
Yeah, without the Railroad there would be absolutely no social integration that Synths could have as a race in the universe. There would still be public suspicion and scare towards Synths in some way, and the RR is the only faction that cares about dispelling these rumors. I think the Sole Survivor as the General of the MM could have allied with the RR and had peace talks with Maxis' BoS if they were on good terms to at least have a ceasefire. The extremist views on Synths, Ghouls & Super Mutants that Maxis' BoS displays could tip the scales a bit more in the result tho towards further war. We'll have to wait to find out, hopefully things will change for the better.
@keeganbanse86256 ай бұрын
I love how Todd Howard explicitly asked them to not do anything with the law of Fallout 4 or New Vegas in the show writers just straight up said fuck you
@brain7246 ай бұрын
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@Linterna0016 ай бұрын
I mean, he can always pull a reverse card and say “The show is AU” similar to how Disney pulled that on all previously established lore of Star Wars after episode 6 and before episode 1.
@brain7246 ай бұрын
@@Linterna001 I don't think even Todd is THAT stupid. If he could decanonize anything not made by Bethesda without insane backlash he would've already decanonized the first two games from his roster os narcissism.
@replayymedia6 ай бұрын
@@brain724he did. Fallout Tactics and Brotherhood haven’t been canon since before fallout 3… Fallout 76-The TV Series is the chosen canon for a reason I’m guessing even if it comes with its problems.
@trustme10756 ай бұрын
I love how I saw the clip of a guy not knowing how to fly power armor and how it looks like every single other modern movies joke/humor.
@ChemesLamont6 ай бұрын
Not necessarily. This could be a stretch, but it could have been rebuilt. Captain Kells said it took over two years to design the Prydwen and over twice that to build. I know it’s cutting it close, but you could fit that in the 9 years between FO4 and the show. Plus you wouldn’t need the “over two years” if you still had the blueprints.
@justnoob81415 ай бұрын
literally impossible, there is no blueprint nor resource to build another one
@jonathancunningham87395 ай бұрын
@@justnoob8141 Uh yes there is the BOS would have made a blue print as the built the ship that is one of the main tenants of the BOS.
@justnoob81415 ай бұрын
@@jonathancunningham8739 great! You now have a useless blue paper, where did you find another MOBILE BASE CRAWLER, I ask?
@junebug3132 ай бұрын
I always loved when Prime straight slammed that behemoth into the bridge 😂
@nekoali26 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it will be the Minuteman/Peaceful ending. Too much effort was put in to the Minutemen and Railroad as being the 'plucky underdog good guys' for them to get rid of them.
@Ex-memegoditaАй бұрын
Minutemen underdogs? By the ending they have the potential to be as big as the NCR
@Stone_Horn6 ай бұрын
Minutemen, and Brotherhood are Usually the two endings I pick. Since Minutemen are embedded within the culture of America itself, and they protect the people. As for the Eastern Brotherhood, they have been popular since fallout 3, and have only grown in power in fallout 4
@MiniCerberus9916 ай бұрын
honestly? I could see the Minutemen and the Brotherhood allying at some point, with the Minutemen acting as a region holder, allowing for the Brotherhood to expand to other regions without spending resources beyond belief each time
@TheseUseless6 ай бұрын
But the brotherhood is insane
@TheseUseless6 ай бұрын
@@MiniCerberus991how? Their values don’t really align much at all.
@max79716 ай бұрын
@@MiniCerberus991 it’s a miracle BoS didn’t confiscate all those laser muskets yet lol.
@2ndrangersww26 ай бұрын
@@TheseUselessthey both don't like synths. Commonwealth citizens fear and hate the institute, and that alone makes it easy to allow the brotherhood to "help". Then the next steps would be to eliminate mutants and take prewar tech. Maxson even says he cares about the people of the commonwealth when you first meet him. The minutemen would probably allow the brotherhood to take prewar tech and kill all mutants in exchange for helping to prop up a commonwealth government that Allies with the BoS. Would make sense to the BoS to have a strong regional alliance as to avoid another situation they were in with the NCR
@hulicesgarciaruiz17746 ай бұрын
I think it's the minute men ending where all factions are still around and the Commonwealth united under the minutemen but had a truce/working relationship with the BoS.
@JD8676 ай бұрын
You know, the Brotherhood having PAM would help explain how inexplicably large and powerful they've become.
@craigunshallach49515 ай бұрын
When Liberty Prime grabs that Behemoth like it is a rabbit, ready to be slaugthered, it gives me goosebumps.
@albertofarizamata32536 ай бұрын
Probably the minutmen expelled the brotherhood of steel from Boston but they still on the west coast
@_JamesMorrell_6 ай бұрын
I don't think the guys with wind up guns beats an professional army with superior tech
@alexrazim44676 ай бұрын
Easier than you’d think. Probably just send a message over the radio saying something like “Brotherhood Airship: the Institute has been annihilated by our militia, and as such your mandate here is no longer valid. Kindly step the fuck off and head home or we will nail you with every one of our artillery guns across the city. This is not a request.” After all, if they come to blows, all it ended up taking to destroy that airship was some old artillery. It’s not invulnerable if you have a large enough caliber.
@funnycorner28026 ай бұрын
@@_JamesMorrell_According the the last episode of the show and the battle we saw I would say that the minutemen militia has a decent chance against BOS.
@_JamesMorrell_6 ай бұрын
@@funnycorner2802 based on the tech and munitions Bos have east and west they would win they literally have a death bot problem.with artillery it's very susceptible to air attack which is Bo's main transport And the attack on the institute for minutemen was an infiltration butcher bolt whereas bos pushed on the surface through the enemy
@confusedchocolate52605 ай бұрын
@@_JamesMorrell_correct me if I'm wrong but if it is the minute men ending wouldn't that mean that the brotherhood don't have liberty prime? As the sole survivor was a large part in liberty prime's rebuilding.
@explorinjenkins3496 ай бұрын
The show calls Fred Armisan's DJ character Minuteman Radio. He could be from Boston. He even plays the Minuteman music.
@shroom85116 ай бұрын
an institute reconstructed prydwen full of synths pretending to be the brotherhood would be crazy!
@justnoob81415 ай бұрын
and utterly stupid
@BIGBOSS-bu1jt5 ай бұрын
thats what I would do as director of the institute and general of the MM cover you're base command and conquer
@nichtmenschlich61333 ай бұрын
The wreckage was there. They could probably reverse engineer it and rebuild it with a large group of synth construction workers
@falconraider796 ай бұрын
The Elder mentions in episode 1 that the “mission comes from the highest clerics in the Commonwealth”, so if 9 years after Fallout 4 the Brotherhood’s high command is there rather than the Capital Wasteland, it makes the most sense that the Brotherhood ending is canon
@ManVsCliff5 ай бұрын
The institute ending is still possible, albeit stretched. In tactics (which isn’t cannon) they mentioned the BOS having multiple airships, and ‘Prydwyn’ could be a generic name for them like Vertibird. I think they also alluded to something like that in 3 also.
@awesomedolphin96755 ай бұрын
Yeaaahh no sorry, that's a bit of a stretch there, you don't put the model of a military vehicle on the outside of it in big bold lettering. Besides in FO4 they routinely mention the airship as "The Prydwen" meaning it was named and not termed, if it was a model it would've been something like this "let's head back to our Prydwen ship" "Our Prydwen can outgun any other ship" "No one can take on our Prydwens". And since they don't talk like that in the game, it's definitely the same ship. Lastly, Tactics wasn't confirmed as 100% Canon for the lore so we can't use that accurately.
@misterputin88982 ай бұрын
@@awesomedolphin9675 Also, the Prydwen was made with what was left of the Enclave mobile base in Adams Air Force Base. There are no more of these bad boys as far as we know.
@ZeonicFenrir6 ай бұрын
Unless someone from the show or Emil come to outright confirm that the initial claims about the ship being the Caswennan were wrong, I will continue considering this a different ship from the Prydwen.
@UraniumFever766 ай бұрын
That’s very strange logic seeing as it looks identical and says Prydwen on the side… thought that would been a big giveaway
@BlackScisir6 ай бұрын
it does literally say Prydwen on the side though. And the wiki now confirms it.
@UraniumFever766 ай бұрын
@@BlackScisir honestly I can’t understand the amounts of comments rationalising them rebuilding it or apparently not bothering to write a new name
@ZeonicFenrir6 ай бұрын
@@UraniumFever76There are a few possible explanations, going from a simple mistake, like being told to make a new 3D model of the Prydwen for the series, but in some part of the process forgetting to tell them to remove or change the name (or even just using and older/wrong model). Even an in-universe explanation is possible, such as the Prydwen being sunk in the east and the new ship being given its name, as in the case of the USS Enterprise, a name used by about 5 different ships. There’s also in-universe technical problems for the same Prydwen to fly coast to coast, such as its coolant consumption, a problem that almost forced the BoS to ground the ship after arriving at the Commonwealth.
@ZeonicFenrir6 ай бұрын
@@BlackScisirThe wiki is written by fans and the only evidence it provides is the name of the ship, which is contradiction to the earlier announcement. And as I pointed out to UraniumFever76 in my later response, there’s room for assuming that an error was made (reusing an earlier 3D model) or it could be a case of multiple ships using the same name (ex: USS Enterprise). And that’s leaving aside in-universe technical problems such as the poor efficiency of the Prydwen’s coolant consumption, as indicated in FO4 (almost forced the BoS to ground the ship at Boston).
@teph12566 ай бұрын
You can end the game with both brotherhood and railroad alive if you side with the minutemen
@slowazzd21656 ай бұрын
Because two airships existing is such a wild concept. Also why are we acting like they HAVE to pick one of the game endings. Weve also seen various brotherhood factions be destroyed throughout the games and others keep functioning fine
@kop15226 ай бұрын
It's because the Prydwyn gets vaporized in multiple fallout endings, blown up by C4 by railroad, erased by an institute hacked Liberty Prime, or obliterated by Minutemen artillery
@jaconator12456 ай бұрын
@@kop1522the show never said it was the prydwyn so thats just speculation. Not at all impossible that theres another airship
@alphaxbox37286 ай бұрын
@@jaconator1245 If zoomed in the ship literally has the name Prydwyn.
@funnycorner28026 ай бұрын
@@alphaxbox3728It could be an eastern egg, like the radio thing.
@justnoob81416 ай бұрын
Technically 3 airships
@piercewehrle1484 ай бұрын
Its stated multiple times by paladin danse and preston garvey that they might not approve of siding with the other faction, but at least they are both fighting for a noble cause.
@tealwraith90456 ай бұрын
My ending for Fallout 4 was Institute vaporized, Railroad disbanded, BoS doing their collection thing and the Minutemen building up all the settlements I had to liberate and constantly defend. Constantly.
@dottietyre90626 ай бұрын
Dang it even if the Institute was evil they had so much tech it's a shame it got lost
@KalebB.466 ай бұрын
They arent evil tho they are actively remaking the world, their end goal isnt to replace every human with synths, synths are only meant to be tools, imo the best ending for the future of boston is to side with the institute and minutemen
@ausar5676 ай бұрын
@@KalebB.46have you seen what they done in the name of science, shit looked like 1940s japan research team in china
@robinvegas43676 ай бұрын
The brotherhood would not have nuked the institute. They would have captured it and placed Doctor Li in charge. The scientists that capitulated to working for the BoS would be spared while the others executed.
@4dealliance5986 ай бұрын
I want to see Institute peeps turn up in the Enclave, just really want to see that. And maybe Enclave using "clone troopers". Basically in season 2 or 3 I want to Enclave to be fearsome and just immediately wipe the floor with the Brotherhood.
@matthimfsmfs71946 ай бұрын
@@KalebB.46I think eventually replacing humans with Synths was the way to go, I believe Father would rather see them as the Thralls you find morally exceptable.
@stitchfan086 ай бұрын
I think we all knew if there was one ending that would definitely not be canon is the railroad ending i always believed the minutemen and the institute felt like more canon and since we now know the institute is gone im thinking the minutemen ending is most likely canon and doctor li is with the brotherhood of steel
@alyarin90006 ай бұрын
Deacon's spying on the SS makes the Railroad ending a good story IMO.
@ChefJoJo226 ай бұрын
It always made sense to me that the ending which had the brotherhood and minutemen both survive was canon. Like it showed an iconic fallout faction remain in power and gives a great underdog story of the sole survivor basically rebuilding a broken down faction from the ground up. Gives the player's actions much more meaning in the grand scheme of things
@hexyila524 ай бұрын
I personally always took the “paladin danse becomes elder” cut content as the cannon ending bc it leaves the minute men, the brotherhood, and the railroad alive in theory. Danse is more sympathetic to synths even tho they’re technology that shouldn’t exist but they’re still human enough that they shouldn’t be wiped out. Danse understands that synths are not fully machine but also aren’t fully human. I like to think the brotherhood stayed in Boston and helped the railroad relocate and possibly absorb as many synths as possible and then eventually either left to go back to California or stayed in Boston permanently. Alternatively it would be cool if half of the Boston brotherhood stayed including danse and the sole survivor, and the rest took the pridwyn back to California
@Ex-memegoditaАй бұрын
With the minutemen ending you can save everyone except the institute too
@RuneFoot6 ай бұрын
I made the minite men and the brotherhood make peace at a standoff afterwards
@themrlupo35916 ай бұрын
Ah yes the traditional stand off, a bunch of farmers with laser muskets vs the guys in mech suits with laser rifles, mini guns, laser Gatling guns, assault helicopters, a laser/nuke throwing 30ft tall robot and massive airship, I wonder who will win
@SOAVGaming6 ай бұрын
@themrlupo3591 when the late game minutemen you control and fight the institute with is basically the entirety of Massachusetts, and the BOS almost entirely made up of only the soldiers who came on the Prydwen, I'm not sure. Especially since most of the BOS aren't armed with power armor or heavy weapons.
@RuneFoot6 ай бұрын
@@themrlupo3591 whomever I side with.
@trickytraveller32726 ай бұрын
@@themrlupo3591 that's accurate if you don't develop your Minute Men at all I guess, they severely outnumber the brotherhood, and with enough help from the sole survivor they could collectively outgun the brotherhood few soldiers who actually have power Armour. Liberty Prime is an automatic win condition, though.
@themrlupo35916 ай бұрын
@@SOAVGaming those soldiers still have heavy body armour, and they still have tons of t-60 everywhere plus training. It would be costly but they could definitely take on the minutemen. Also the institute’s synths are so easily broken down that the only real threat are the coarsers
@jimbog48736 ай бұрын
Which episode of the show states the airships name being Prydwyn?!? I don't recall the show saying a name...so the promo material for show still stands and this is a sister airship to F4 airship (unless you heard a line in show i missed)!!!
@UraniumFever766 ай бұрын
It’s written on the side mate, you might need to pause it and zoom in
@jimbog48736 ай бұрын
@@UraniumFever76 ... Okie-dokie...although it's also possible they used some sort of Fallout 4 Prydwyn prop from Bethesda (instead of just CGI) & that prop had the Prydwyn name on it and they never thought anyone would ever zoom in so close as to see the letters on prop & therefore made a goof error?
@inductivegrunt946 ай бұрын
Minutemen and Brotherhood were the endings I chose as they felt like they would lead to a more stable Commonwealth. I hope it's the Minutemen as that would allow for much greater storytelling potential compared to just more Brotherhood that we've already seen.
@TheseUseless6 ай бұрын
The logical escalation of what the brotherhood believes is that all the synths will be exterminated, and the ghouls heavily discriminated against
@jodiepalmer24046 ай бұрын
@@TheseUseless I thought the Brotherhood wanted to eradicate even the Ghouls and Super mutants.
@TheseUseless6 ай бұрын
@@jodiepalmer2404 They did, i'm just not sure if they could without pushbackl. Ghouls are far less despised in the commonwealth than synths
@ethanedwards4226 ай бұрын
@@jodiepalmer2404their ghoul policy depends on how much they cooperate with the west coast BOS. The east coast chapters seem to take a different stance, instead of exterminating then they just seem to discriminate against them.
@crunchysalmons6 ай бұрын
if you chose the brotherhood ending in f4 you dont understand the series at all. i hate normies......
@Zloy5855 ай бұрын
A thing I theorized about was that the series plays before fallout 4. Codsworth says you were asleep for 230 years actually if you wanna be precise, but in the first episode it says "200 years later".
@antirevomag8345 ай бұрын
At least they gave a conclusive ending this time. One of the biggest gripes i had about prior games, including fo3 was that they were very quick to skirt canonicity of endings, and fo4 made so many references back to 3, but refused to give concrete information on the ends of events that it was starting to get obnoxious.
@hazard43496 ай бұрын
Honestly the show is so accurate that they even included reused assets from previous games and forgot to rename them!!!
@ijustlivehere156 ай бұрын
Minutemen will always be my favourite cause theyre an army of the people, by the people for the people.
@ericjohnson66756 ай бұрын
Locals wanting to make their world better. Self governance and all that.
@adianto11226 ай бұрын
Of the people for the people? Oh brother....
@citogonzalez81776 ай бұрын
Minutemen ending is by far the best for the commonwealth they want the best for the people they help with no alternative goals
@Drownedinblood6 ай бұрын
Seeing a flashback to liberty prime messing synths up would be a nice surprise for the series.
@Evan-yy6zo6 ай бұрын
Canon has always been obviously the peaceful minutemen
@urbanchaos3996 ай бұрын
That also means our boi democracy robot is still alive and active
@confusedchocolate52605 ай бұрын
Only if it's the BoS ending and not the minutemen ending
@jonathancunningham87395 ай бұрын
@@confusedchocolate5260 Yes the Minutemen ending as well though it is more of a logic base ending get the key from the Building you nuke the Institute use the elevator get the agitator then sell it to the BOS.
@confusedchocolate52605 ай бұрын
@@jonathancunningham8739 I'm afraid your wording is confusing me a bit, do you mean that the minute men ending would still see the brotherhood with liberty prime?
@confusedchocolate52605 ай бұрын
@@jonathancunningham8739 oh wait I think I see what you mean now, personally I disagree as I can't see a newly reformed military like the minute men willingly selling something so powerful to a potentually hostile power.
@js32326 ай бұрын
BoS and Minuteman will always be Canon ending, even if the Minuteman didn't come out on top, they are people of the Commonwealth and they bear arms regardless of the BoS so I think they just let the BoS be and defeated the Institute and Railroad. Prywden flew off and Boston was secured by both factions.
@scotginger46905 ай бұрын
The biggest reason the BoS was in the Commonwealth was the Institute, due to the Institute having very powerful technology and the BoS has their stupid hippocratic rule that they follow. Once the Institute is gone I assume that they hung around for a while, got any important tech they needed and then dipped out.
@js32325 ай бұрын
@@scotginger4690 yeah wasn't there a side mission to collect pre war docs to turn in? I'm guessing once they collected those and more from the past yeah they left, no reason to hang about.
@homelander4285 ай бұрын
Nate was a soldier so it makes sense for him to join some type of militarised organisation. As for Nora its like shes carrying on his legacy through joining too
@calvary25716 ай бұрын
There is an ending where the minutemen, railroad, and BOS all live peacefully and you're still in good standing with them
@James-kv3ll6 ай бұрын
Wtv the cannon ending is I’m sure Preston still thinks there’s another settlement that could use my help.
@thelukeman2796 ай бұрын
I honestly would say as a whole, Minutemen because think about it like this. No matter what faction upon the four you pick you can still pick Minutemen with the other three. Though with those three again, you can still pick the minute men so I would have to say brotherhood of steel and Minutemen? Because it would make more sense by lore standpoint
@sonyblank14876 ай бұрын
Oh yes, Fallout canon The thing that changes depending on how assblasted Todd feels on a day-to-day basis.
@ohnoastein44416 ай бұрын
I just hope that its something where the Institute survives, its far to interesting to just be destroyed
@daftspecial20726 ай бұрын
No
@ScuffedJeo6 ай бұрын
There's definitely more Institute operatives out there and possibly another headquarters. Zimmerman if I recall correctly wasn't in FO4 due to his work, so he could start over.
@menghao7376 ай бұрын
It can't survive intact. They would eventually grow too powerful, necessitating all out war in the wastelands and beyond. They were well on their way to building a synth army while infiltrating every faction out there. They could have won and took over the world, committed mass genocide, and repopulated with their own given enough time. They had to be defeated, and it had to be then and there, before they could expand beyond the Commonwealth.
@itsaidanwithaneh6 ай бұрын
@@ScuffedJeoWith what? He's one scientist and maybe a Courser
@tristanlambert6586 ай бұрын
Bro the Institute is literally just a more boring reskin of the Enclave. Bethesda wanted to do something different to make Fo4 stand out and so they turned the Institute into main antagonist material but wrote them the exact same as how they wrote the Enclave in Fo3. The way to save the Institute as it’s own faction was if we learned in Fo4 that they were puppets to the Enclave so that they could be absolved of guilt as their own independent facility.
@InktheImpassiveАй бұрын
I kind of wish they referenced the previous protagonists in the show. Something like "there were multiple vault dwellers like you, looking for someone." Or along the lines of legends, myths, clues, obscure items about them.
@_-nexus-_62576 ай бұрын
Institute exploding, but all the scientists being let go free out of mercy.
@nonamegiven2026 ай бұрын
"we were asked not to canonize a ending.....but they didn't say anything about canonizing what's didn't happen!" Tho honestly, putting aside if it was a misdirect or just a production error (since they are in the commonwealth either way), this outcome wasn't much of a surprise since BGS feels they need to be in every game and that's a lot easier with airship.
@alexandruoprea6996 ай бұрын
Damn it... Finished with the Institute on all but one ending, where I went with the Minutemen - I think... Loved sending Prydwen down in flames.
@crazyyobbo6 ай бұрын
I feel like the minutemen ending was the original planned canon ending but they changed it to the brotherhood ending for the sake of the show
@Tattletale-Delta6 ай бұрын
You know the Minutemen ending results in the Brotherhood surviving as well right? It's only after the Institute is destroyed, if you've made enemies with the Brotherhood for some dumb reason or another, that you get the Artillery ending.
@crazyyobbo6 ай бұрын
@@Tattletale-Delta yes but with the brotherhood being this powerful and acting like they came from a commonwealth where they are the boss it makes it seem more likely their ending was canon
@smokedbeefandcheese41446 ай бұрын
😂 lol nah also Bos doesn’t need to ask Permission to travel through the minute men’s airspace if they put all of the helicopters on the blimp they will not be shot down by rifles. So theoretically even if they were in hostilities the brotherhood could literally just fly over Minutemen turf it wouldn’t matter because you can only attack Verta birds when they are attacking you
@smokedbeefandcheese41446 ай бұрын
@@Tattletale-Deltaprydwin Does not survive a minute men ending. Unless we are to assume after it got blown up they rebuilt it after a few years
@darklordkuro79536 ай бұрын
@@smokedbeefandcheese4144 minute man actually have a few ending including one where the only defeated faction is the institute.
@ziltzerzapper84496 ай бұрын
We ought to just do the comic solution: multiple timelines spread across multiple universes with no one singular “cannon” thread.
@protomahawker1566 ай бұрын
I like the minuteman makes me feel like im building my own PMC
@AZOMBIEGUY6 ай бұрын
IS THAT STRONG IN FUCKING POWER ARMOR?
@UraniumFever766 ай бұрын
Indeed, he was very unhappy
@SenseiSov6 ай бұрын
@@UraniumFever76 Frank Horrigan jr
@sealake79356 ай бұрын
Brotherhood always made the most sense as the canonical ending. The Sole Survivor is a war veteran, so I always saw him siding with the Brotherhood since they would be the most familiar with that environment. Also, the Brotherhood has the most firepower and manpower to take down the advanced Institute
@shadelord29496 ай бұрын
Now we wait for the season 2 where we see LP in the background just destroying a supermutant camp
@thizzmonkey78463 ай бұрын
The Minuteman seems pretty likely now. I've spent the time doing all the crap for their quest line and it was actually really nice to be able to call for artillery fire anywhere I went in the open areas. I've wiped out whole swarms of enemies with it. It takes a little time but the fireworks are oh so pretty
@RGE-NOELLE6 ай бұрын
Finding out that it was the prydwin made my inner brotherhood of steel fan jump and cheer like crazy
@ram5s8586 ай бұрын
There is an ending where the bos and minutemen work together and both win if i am correct, i honestly don't remember i need to play it again
@edwardsallow89316 ай бұрын
Man, the series threw a lot of the lore out of the window in that last episode, so I don't know how will they juggle that.
@vincent_morrow_6 ай бұрын
It sucks to much inconsistency
@wiwopkxmapknt62516 ай бұрын
@@vincent_morrow_keep crying about it
@Litterbugtaylor6 ай бұрын
@@wiwopkxmapknt6251 i love that you can always spot the new vegas fans because they immediately start screaming retcon or "that was a bunch of lore they just got rid of" despite them literally not knowing what retcon means
@hazard43496 ай бұрын
@@Litterbugtaylorthe bad writing meat riding is crazy
@Litterbugtaylor6 ай бұрын
@@hazard4349 what bad writing, they beat up your favourite faction so it's bad, same shit different day
@robbieweirdick24176 ай бұрын
The show pretty much confirmed the minutemen/brotherhood ending with the minute men music being heard and the high clerics of the commonwealth being mentioned. This is not a debate
@Psycho69-YT4 ай бұрын
I like to believe that the minutemen would eventually be absorbed into the brotherhood and they would become their own sector of the brotherhood
@johnclement189Ай бұрын
My headcannon that after the Institute was defeated by the Brotherhood, a peace pact was established between the Minutemen and BoS to bring order to Boston, the Prywen left but leaving a garrison behind in the Boston Airport probably for recruitment and HQ.
@JustPlainRex6 ай бұрын
Would’ve been awesome to see liberty prime in the show
@misterpotato4276 ай бұрын
Omg the brotherhood ending is canon! What a shocker! Bethesda writing never fails to suprise me 😐
@LetsGoCatchUsSomeFISH6 ай бұрын
They’d redeem themselves if they made Fallout 5 with the Enclave in it as a joinable faction. Enclave needs to return, it would put the Brotherhood into the dirt.
@soyhugo3906 ай бұрын
If they return would be to be "we evil cause reasons" @@LetsGoCatchUsSomeFISH
@justnoob81416 ай бұрын
Like first 2 games, which is by Black Isle
@misterpotato4273 ай бұрын
@@justnoob8141lmao have you played Fo2, they're pathetic 😂
@mremington86 ай бұрын
sad the institute is gone, they were humanities best option
@acendantoverlord57375 ай бұрын
No they really weren’t? They actively worked against the progression of the commonwealth people, and they had no intention of using their technology for any “greater good”. They were purely a selfish organization that looked at everything outside of their institute with indifference and cruelty.
@justnoob81415 ай бұрын
so does Enclave and look what they want to do with you
@scotginger46905 ай бұрын
Where did you get that take? Put it back. The Institute was literally just the Enclave but for Technocrats, they actively harmed people, kidnapped children, never helped anyone and saw themselves as better than anyone. They were literally Techno-Nazis.
@anthonywynn18125 ай бұрын
Plot Twist: Most of the institutes people and research was moved into the unfinished vault 88.
@methuselahh_4 ай бұрын
i think the fact that the brotherhood in the commonwealth are moving on to the west coast again proves their ending is the canon one. they achieved all their goals in the east, rebuilding liberty prime and getting pam, so now they’re going to meet back up with the higher ups in the original chapters to strengthen them/take over as the main brotherhood. also (to my knowledge at least) you can complete the brotherhood ending while keeping the minutemen around, i never was given any order by maxson to target them.
@Periit86446 ай бұрын
I feel like brotherhood was cannon. Institute literally had no end goal a d were the evil faction, railroad are way too weak amd shouldve heen a side faction and the minute men were more for players who wanted to get all settlements amd keep all factions. Brotherhood were the most developed and definetly the main characters
@plantainsame20496 ай бұрын
The brotherhood is also an evil faction.The minute men were the good guys who would have rebuilt the Commonwealth The brotherhood Is back to its old tech cult roots You know That combined with my theories about new vegas makes me wonder if they've canonically Made the courier and the soul survivor Jerks I mean It's a change from the first three games where the good endings are cannon
@hammyofdoom83556 ай бұрын
@@plantainsame2049the brotherhood isn’t evil. Institute was evil, brotherhood aren’t nice, they’re bigots, but not evil. They protected random caravans with their vertibirds, and some of the chapters are purely good, purifying water or in fo76 protecting the east lands
@plantainsame20496 ай бұрын
@hammyofdoom8355 There are cult that forces there will on other people that is textbook evil They might claim to be doing it to protect people but so do most evil empires Certain chapters are but as I hold the brotherhood is a faction that does more harm than good Because instead of using technology to rebuild the wasteland they hoard it And they don't really get anything other than combat technology Also, the legion protected caravans.That's not an example of good.That's just logic.Don't fuck with the people who bring the supply
@alyarin90006 ай бұрын
@@hammyofdoom8355 The Brotherhood flits between good, neutral and evil. FO4 Brotherhood was overtly genocidal and shook down locals for their supplies, so they are 100% evil.
@CocaoDemon6 ай бұрын
@@alyarin9000 It's kind of shocking to me how people are able to say "they're bigots, they steal and kill and force themselves into everything... but they're not evil." The Brotherhood has always been a negative force in the series. The poster boys, sure, but negative all the same. They wage one-sided wars at worst and hoard and make an attempt to essentially wait out everyone else at the best of times. Lyon's Pride was the best they'd ever been and 99% of the brotherhood at large hated him and the people who followed him -- hence his banishment to the east coast in the first place.
@Nerazmus6 ай бұрын
The airship is literally not Prydwyn tho. It's called The Caswennan.
@ChemesLamont6 ай бұрын
That was a mistake by a news outlet, and was misquoted a lot after. But if you watch the ship coming into the base (in the show), you can see the Prydwen written on the side. Pay attention to the front end, left of the BOS symbol.
@Nerazmus6 ай бұрын
@@ChemesLamont Incorrrect. The clip is a mistake as confirmed by literally everyone involved by the show. My guess is that they intended it to be Prydwyn, but got a smack from Betherstda, so they just decided to call it something else in the show and hope people won't notice the writing in few second of blurry clip.
@ChemesLamont6 ай бұрын
@@Nerazmuswhy didn’t they edit it out then? I just watched the show myself to confirm that. It would have been a very easy fix since it’s hard to catch in the first place. If so… links? All I can find is it originally being referred to by vanity fair as caswennan. There is a debate on Reddit, but again… I don’t see anything with official people correcting what’s is displayed in the show.
@gimon96736 ай бұрын
BECAUSE GOD FUCKING FORBID WE DO ANYTHING WITH FALLOUT THAT ISNT THE BROTHERHOOD OF STEEL
@straumboney19036 ай бұрын
The Enclave is gone and the NCR just joined them, all we got left is the guys in the football gear with skirts.
@funnycorner28026 ай бұрын
@@straumboney1903Well on my memory in FNV centurions with thermospears were fully capable of doing dirty things to BOS…
@MrSmothers696 ай бұрын
Its kinda funny how hardcore todd howard and normies have butchered the fuck out of this series. Tv show literally canceled any lore from player choice in two games.
@kingt02956 ай бұрын
@@straumboney1903 Aaron Hernandez?
@confusedchocolate52605 ай бұрын
@@straumboney1903I don't think they did? I'm pretty certain the NCR and brotherhood have some pretty serious beef, especially in new vegas.
@RollMeAFat16 ай бұрын
I’ve always assumed the brotherhood because they constantly push you towards them, at least on a first playthrough, like the police station and meeting danse and the arrival of the prydwyn
@Austin65395 ай бұрын
I’ve always thought it was the brotherhood it was my first play through and it makes most sense because of the background of “Nate” being a military man himself
@Vandrock6 ай бұрын
I think it is bad writing to do that, but then again bethesda has NEVER made a good game to begin with.
@Aydin_4204 ай бұрын
I think canonically the sole survivor met and did the first quest with every faction but ultimately sides with the minute men, and with the institute gone, the railroad disbands by the events of the show.
@Grunglefum5 ай бұрын
If we follow how the factions are introduced in fallout 4 it has to be the minute men. Theyre the first people you meet and they send you further down the main quest while you have to discover the other factions through gameplay.
@eckyflump42866 ай бұрын
The airship in the TV series is the original prydwen, the one in fallout 4 was named after the original prydwen
@granziii126 ай бұрын
To be fair, the Luberty Prime in FO4 isn't the same one from previous games. They could have built another Predwin and gave it the same name as a way to boost morale. Doing this would still allow the players our own independence.
@granziii126 ай бұрын
Omg I just saw the LUBErty Prime. You know what? I'm not changing it.
@justnoob81416 ай бұрын
It’s the same Liberty Prime, the plating is just missing from being FUBAR
@spedsam88056 ай бұрын
I like to think the ending is the main character just chilling at nukaworld as the overboss