Fallout 4: Some Ways to Keep Your Weapons and Ammo Secure

[@russellshaw8479]

Thank you. This video did not get the support or viewing it deserves. Very professional and informative.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

Thanks!

[@BozhidarBG]

Agree with Russell

[@johnsmithgames6132]

@@BozhidarBG Thanks (to both of you)!

[@Xanar]

Me: Puts all my guns in a safe to keep them safe! Settlers: It's free real estate

[@johnsmithgames6132]

Do you lock the safe?

[@dallasdandigitalproduction393]

@@johnsmithgames6132 How does that work on a PS4 ? Is it possible to lock them then?

[@prime_optimus]

@@johnsmithgames6132 You can't lock them.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

@@prime_optimus You can with a console command or a mod.

[@prime_optimus]

@@johnsmithgames6132 Ok.

[@BloodyMobile]

John: Two settlers took 26 weapons... Todd: It just works! Also: Rocket Launchers and Miniguns are hilariously underpowered. I've seen Airsoft's do more damage than those xD

[@WUZLE]

Heavy weapons in general are underpowered for the weight and other drawbacks. Flamers aren't terrible given the ammo is so cheap. HW guys don't get a good "use anytime" weapon until they get a charging barrel gatling laser.

[@valakarhtelgrem5210]

use brutality mod on survival difficulty. heavy weapons become overpowered. i have an exploding minigun that killed a behemoth within seconds. the mod basically removes bullet sponges so the heavy weapons are more enjoyable to use, as well as any weapon there is. it basically makes damage more realistic.

[@WUZLE]

@@valakarhtelgrem5210 But you won the lottery getting that weapon, especially in survival. Explosive miniguns and shotguns are always crazy overpowered.

[@NomadxElliot]

Minigun is so disappointing.

[@jonathanpilcher337]

In my fo4 they seem just fine

[@Billyisyourdad]

This video is weirdly soothing

[@TM-Xotic-_]

It's also annoying when the settlers steal your power armor

[@johnsmithgames6132]

Never leave a fusion core where they can get it.

[@dallasdandigitalproduction393]

Ive had the same problem. Lots of ppl suggest pulling the fusion cores out when you get out of them, like keys from a car.

[@blinkusfishus2052]

You find so many sets, you can even buy them, I ended up deliberately leaving PA with fusion cores in my settlements for them use during attacks, Several provisioners patrol the wasteland in PA too. It’s funny seeing a farmer hop in a set and then proceed to slaughter a bunch of raiders before going back to his day job of picking tato’s.

[@MrAnimeWolf]

I'm pretty sure with settlers though you can tell them to get out of it, but God forbid if Trash Can Carla gets a hold of one of your suits. . . well let's just hope she takes one you don't care about because you're not gettin it back.

[@danm2084]

Always take the fusion core with you.

[@tussled1]

I found this all out the hard way. Off subject but don’t ever leave incendiary throwing objects around. They will accidentally kill you with them.

[@patricklee8552]

I have had the game for 5 years and didn't even know this was a problem until this came up on youtube right now? haven't noticed anything like this happening in my game, I have all my companions (no settlers) at Sanctuary Hills and every gun I have found and bought is there too (legendary and guns I plan to scrap), so far everything is right where I left it, guns, ammo, armor. To be honest my game did sit for a while (4 years) after I bought a Ultra widescreen (21:9), it was just unplayable. Just recently found Flawless Widescreen and was able to get back into it again.

[@davidsimmons6307]

This is a terrific and very thorough test, but even with the ability to lock a safe, if you want to have access to it, you still have to do that through the console and then re-lock it each time. I think I'm going to make a concrete room for my storage containers as Tabbing a wall into the Workshop and then putting it back requires fewer and less complicated steps. Still, this was an excellent video and I highly recommend it!

[@johnsmithgames6132]

You can unlock the safe the regular way, and get the XP as well.

[@Nosferopathy]

how do you lock your own safe? i made a safe from the workshop and havent seen an option to lock it

[@Kh1m3ra]

I typically just make a storage room where the only entrance is a powered door with a switch. Can place weapons in any containers I want because the AI isn't programmed to know that the switch activates the door, therefore making it an inaccessible area like how he boxed the plasma pistols off in the video.

[@donkeysunited]

I do the exact same, works every time. That room is full of chests and lockers and drawers and ammo containers and everything stays put as long as I lock the door behind me. Do NOT put chairs or beds in there as settlers can teleport into rooms containing things for them to do.

[@Aragain-son-of-Aratrain]

This 100% does not work. NPCs spawn anywhere on your base. This has been proven.

[@Kh1m3ra]

@@Aragain-son-of-Aratrain I mean.. I've been using this method since I first started playing Fallout 4 when it first came out, so.. I might know if it works or not. So far, not a single NPC has teleported to that area to steal my weapons because I leave no intractable objects in there for them to teleport and NPCs only interact with containers if they can path to them.

[@donkeysunited]

@@Kh1m3ra I'm the same, been using this type of room for years and nobody has appeared or spawned or teleported into it or taken anything from it. They will only go in you put a chair or bed or something similar in there. I usually build a separate area that is my home with bed, chairs, showers etc. It's technically impossible to get to as I leave a large gap outside the door that I have to jump over, but NPCs will phase through the walls to get to those objects.

[@Coleman77]

Just built a center room and console locked the safe. Kinda annoying but this info prevents discovering the issues on my own. Thanks! 👍

[@A_piece_of_broccoli]

you could also do two different things use the air port as your armory: there is no settler ability at that settlement, so no settlers means no guns being taken. or you could arm all of your settlers with a gun with only a single upgrade, (this makes it so they mark their weapon as special so they don't try to replace it,) and then give them a few rounds for it followed by a single round of 5mm. if you do it correctly, when you add the 5mm they should equip the correct ammunition for their gun, and that will freeze their ammo into infinite ammo.

[@robbakes1694]

I've accidentally always done the second thing lmao

[@g3synth205]

Or just store things in Armor Racks? Seems pretty simple.

[@user-isntavailable]

Does this still work?

[@yessir2033]

@@user-isntavailable I would imagine it does. Old engine + I don’t think Bethesda would care enough to patch it out. They don’t even patch their live service game

[@yessir2033]

I am definitely nabbing that airport armory idea though makes too much sense.

[@jess2obsess]

Wow. Years later and I'm still learning new things about FO4, I always thought workshops were the only safe container! That's crazy! Thanks for the thorough testing!

[@johnsmithgames6132]

You're welcome!

[@indecisivewolf5620]

Wish this got more attention. All good stuff to know that I wasn't aware of before, thanks for making this.

[@richlee3777]

I noticed something unusual in your video that changes things a bit. While the settlers took items from workplace storage, they only took items from the big red workplace storage item that you use to activate the settlement initially (can't remember the name of it). I tested it out and found that yes, they steal from that red workplace storage item. However, then I put concrete walls tightly around the red workplace storage item and instead put a chemistry station near them. When I did this, they did not take items from the chemistry station. I think that NPCs can only access your workplace storage through the red workplace storage item. I think that if you block that off and access your storage through the workstations, it might actually be secure. Currently I've been using armour racks for all my weapons, but it'd be nice to have more options. Thanks again for this video, btw. It's the best one for this topic that I've found. Clear and methodical.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

I had heard settlers won't take items from armor workbenches, chem stations etc but I never tested it (I think the red one is actually called the "Workshop"). If you can keep settlers even a small distance away from a storage area they can't steal stuff from it. The square floor piece with four walls in the video shows that. (Got a good chuckle out of your icon.)

[@williamzarek9520]

I make a room (with chest in it) with a powered door (with a switch to open and close it) to keep all my ammo and guns i dont want stolen. Easier to access than doing console commands to lock safes and keeps the immersion high. I havent had any problems with this so far. Example: Steel prefab corner, powered door, pylon switch. 4 walls with a roof and floor super easy to lock everyone out.

[@PlasmaBurns]

I had a settlement attacked while one of the traveling merchants was there. The merchant took some power armor and now wears it everywhere she goes.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

If it was Carla she usually leaves it near where she stands at Bunker Hill. It's possible Cricket does the same.

[@davekachel]

this is one of the worst features in the game... Im searching for righteous authority for days and now I think one of my idiots stole it. (hopefully not an despawned enemy...)

[@busta4296]

Same here lol.. Im using bell to gather them all.. Search all of them but still can't find it.. Idk where it is.. Dammit!

[@Fuzzy_Spork]

This was helpful! I use Hangman's as my base and had to put a platform at the very top of the build area (it's only 2 floors up) and put my important weapons in a container up there. An armor manikin is way easier! I appreciate showing all the outcomes. It was also interesting that sometimes the settler without armor ran and ducked before engaging the enemy. So I'm definitely going to armor up my settlers now. Thanks!

[@boofuu3145]

i make home plate my base , i only take junk to other settlements when building it , then empty it , workshop wont refill when full anyway

[@Ecliptor.]

Home Plate as base is a pain in the ass in survival. And load screens are pretty massive in Boston, specially the one when you exit Diamond City.

[@951258tike22]

@@Ecliptor. If you're playing on PC there's a mod on nexusmods called load accelerator, super simple install and doesn't affect achievements or anything. IDK if there's a console equivalent tho

[@Ecliptor.]

@@951258tike22 yeah I saw it, but it's only noticeable on ssds, it basically unlocks the framerate during load screens, but it doesnt do anything on hdds (my case)

[@951258tike22]

@@Ecliptor. ah, bummer! I tried fo4 on my friends base PS4 and yeah, slow loads really kill the experience in a lot of areas :(

[@gordontheobald]

Useful video. Cheers! Worth noting that in my tests, settlers would never pass through a concrete doorway, so that may be a useful access-prevention to your treasure rooms.

[@PlayshotKalo]

I use a concrete hall end with a powered door to store my stuff. And I unplug the door from the generator when I’m leaving the settlement just in case. Nothing ever went missing

[@harrydbastard]

I learned they take your weapons the hard way when trashcan carla stole my fatman and killed me when she was trying to defend my settlement

[@bobosims1848]

I consider this VERY useful information. Thanks for sharing, John.!

[@Popeyegsh89]

Settlers have problem with elevated spots, if u make Shops on first and second or other level, the sometimes bug like don't go to the shoop and u can buy items from location they are now, one secure space for every item from settlers am currently using is: One Shack Stairwell, one Shack floor (where are all my containers two or tree) and one scavanging station on last stair. Work like charm, they can't pass it u jusr enter in Workshop mode and use E on it untill u pass it then then leave workshop mode.

[@EZEfallout]

This was a very useful test. Thanks for sharing👌

[@zegermanscientist2667]

I built a warehouse in Sanctuary when Trashcan Carla nicked my Tesla cannon from the workshop. Got a regular box containing all my legendary loot in it and closed the warehouse with a powered rolling door. They just can't seem to throw the switch right next to it. So I also put all my power armors there and built an upstairs ammo plant. All safe and sound now.

[@richardbelliveau8881]

Homeplate. Done. Although i am still learning about this game. I put all my stuff at Sanctuary. Wish there was a supply line to Homeplate.. going to take forever to move it all.

[@Ecliptor.]

Home plate sucks ass for survival. No linked workshop and 2 load screens, one of it being long as fuck.

[@randomaccount-dq1jq]

Just build a wall around a house in Sanctuary, workshop mode to move the wall when you need anything.

[@unknownunkown4992]

They did not draw the pipe guns because they "knew" the plasma guns were in the safe. You found a problem with their logic.

[@SuperTwonky]

I just got done putting all my legendary weapons on weapon racks. Guess I'm going to need some extra measures to keep them safe.

[@Sinsults]

It's interesting how they will forget about their default weapons in certain situations and just go full pugilist.

[@Pacheyolow]

Lmaooo

[@amusingautomatons2692]

Thanks for this video - well done! The weapon rack example makes me wonder if you ran that experiment a dozen times (or more) would you get the same result each time? e.g. is there some RNG involved in settlers grabbing weapons.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

Thank you. I don't know the answer to your question. Settlers won't go out of their way to steal weapons (You wouldn't be happy if during an attack they ran the wrong way).

[@bellatorum]

Thanks, super useful. just the info I were looking for.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

You are welcome.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

You are welcome!

[@Steve-ln3kl]

What about cabinets, weapon racks & workshop behind a powered door with a switch. Will the settlers flip the switch to open the door?

[@johnsmithgames6132]

They can't open a power door. Don't put anything inside settlers can use - like workstations, beds etc. They'll spawn inside and that can lead to problems. Instead of a power door make your building without a door at all. When you want in, enter workshop mode, select one of the walls and walk in. After you get inside hit cancel and the wall returns to where it was. Works the same on the way out.

[@russellshaw8479]

@@johnsmithgames6132 probably the best advice for us noobs playing a vanilla version of fallout 4. Thanks again for your sage advice.

[@williamzarek9520]

@@johnsmithgames6132 Not having a door breaks the immersion and I rather just hit a switch than have to open up the workshop, select a wall, move it and deselect than repeat the whole process to leave.

[@BrindleChase]

I've heard people say settlers will do this, but didn't believe it until now. I store all my legendary weapons in cabinets in Sanctuary, with no real obstacles to keep settlers out, and they have yet to steal anything. Maybe it's because those cabinets are in the farthest eastern area of Sanctuary Hills, where Settlers seldom wander. Raiders and such always attack from the Vault 111 path or the Southwest corner along the river, and I have them working in the center, or guarding those two approaches. So maybe they can't detect the weapon stash from that far away? Anyway, this is good info in case my settlers find my stash. Hehehe.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

During an attack settlers won't go very far out of their way to get a weapon, but if one is near your stash when an attack starts they might steal something.

[@BrindleChase]

@@johnsmithgames6132 That makes sense then. My stash is too far away then and explains why they've never stolen anything. Hehehe.

[@John-gm8ty]

my tactic is a ladder with a platform attached to the top then tool boxes around the edge then move the ladder just away from touching, the settlers cannot get to boxes but you can. a simple easy fix.

[@jacowboy]

Little bit late, but I've found equipping your settlers with good guns will bypass this issue... I gave all of my settlers maxed-out gauss riffles (600dmg), and they never steal anything despite me having all sorts of weapons and greandes laying around or on display in my settlement.

[@Themasterjtg]

I did something sorta similar, only with maxed out auto Assault Rifles and gave everyone a healthy amount of 5.56. Dunno why, but it felt nice to me when I give settlers some good gear.

[@heyojayo8642]

@@Themasterjtg You don't need to give loads of ammo to a setler. The way the game works is any settler can use any gun with infinite ammo as long as they have 1 type of ammo matching the gun. So 1 fusion cell for laser guns or 1 plasma cartridge for plasma. Same with 1 5mm round for miniguns etc. Its weird but its true. Wish the same worked for your companions but they chew through ammo like the player character.

[@mikemckinlay7270]

It’s easy. Build your own settlement for your self. There’s three sites with no people that you can take that won’t conflict with the story line one that does ( the castle ). One in Nuka world. Not sure about fat harbor don’t like the area. Too much fog. Build your house just don’t put a beacon.

[@njones52]

I used the elevators from one of the settlement Dlc to separate my storage from them.

[@Dsullivann]

"Thats commonwealth justice for ya"

[@SewerTapes]

Interesting video. I've had problems in the past with settlers raiding the workshop for weapons, but putting them anywhere else seemed to end that. I typically use lockers to store weapons, and I haven't had settlers use anything other than the weapons I assigned them. I'm on PS4, and don't know if maybe there's a difference in the AI.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

Settlers won't go very far out of their way to get a weapon (that's why I had to move them so close to the workbench). As long as your stuff isn't between them and attackers you're OK.

[@SewerTapes]

@@johnsmithgames6132 Ok, that makes sense. My lockers are typically in an area I've created for myself. No settler beds, work areas/posts, etc.

[@magusi9029]

Nice testing video. I’ve been playing this game recently (after all the modding stability work) and this settler robbing has been a constant question of mine. “What are my best options for keeping my goods safe vs free for all items”? Solid work. 👍

[@johnsmithgames6132]

Thanks!

[@alidottxt]

"god, look at all that blood"

[@reecebower6313]

Place your bed in a corner and put a floor safe underneath in the corner of the room. Then put a sleeping bag under the bed. Leave a small gap in the corner to access safe.

[@Foxtrot2F]

So room with electrical switch will not work, as the npcs can be spawned into it. But if there no bed or chairs in this room will they spawned in? So most reliable option to make Rocket Ga station as base for saving items and without any npcs and caravan routes.

[@ZtotheMills]

and this is why you fill your main hub settlement with robots.

[@nodak81]

I always just build a multi-story base with elevators as the only access up. Settlers have never bothered my power armor or weapons when stored up there.

[@youjustreadthis897]

Awesome video! Did you completely rule out the Armour Rack method by trying more than once to ensure it is 100% safe? My worry is that it was perhaps a 'one off' where both NPC's just so happened not to pick up. A bit like how at 4:29 one NPC did not pick up from the Weapon Rack but the other did when attacking the same enemy If the Armour Rack is a safe way of storing weapons it's most probably because settlers are programmed to collect weapons from Weapon Racks, Containers, Toolboxes, Work Benches or similar but not programmed to collect weapons from Armour Racks as they were not designed to store weapons but armour instead. I only have 15 hours game time (I'm a Fallout noob but a really good shooter and puzzle solver) but do you know if settlers equip themselves automatically with armour as well? If so, I might test to store armour on Weapons Racks to see if that works, using the same ideology as above for Armour Racks and weapons

[@johnsmithgames6132]

My plan for the tests was to run them all five times, so that with two settlers there would be ten trials. Most of the containers failed on the first test so I saw no point in doing another. The display cabinets didn't fail until the third test, the armor racks and console locked safes survived all ten. Is that 100% proof armor racks are secure? Not at all. You could run a million tests then have a failure on the next one. Armor racks aren't your usual container though. To create them Bethesda used an immobilized NPC, which means anything in it is "owned" and the other NPCs in the game are programmed not to steal owned things, which makes armor racks secure.

[@youjustreadthis897]

@@johnsmithgames6132 You're right, despite the Armour Rack passing ten tests still doesn't make it 100% but I'm happy to rely on it. Will let you know on here if I catch them stealing from Armour Rack And that's an interesting point RE immobilized NPC, sounds like that's the answer! Thanks

[@Dimeron]

@@johnsmithgames6132 Very useful information. I put all my stuff inside containers, and the containers inside a concrete box (very much like yours) except with a power door. Nothing inside the box that can be activated. Has worked well so far. Just have to make sure all the door is closed whenever I'm not using anything.

[@Humangarbage_7]

I set the weapons that I didn’t need but still wanted to keep in like a sort of weapon storage unit on shelves. But I put up walls around the building. Will that keep them out or will the A.I. be actually intelligent for once and somehow get in?

[@johnsmithgames6132]

If you have something inside the walls that settlers use, like beds or work stations, the game can spawn them next to it. If an attack happened while they were there they might grab something. I'm on PC and having been using the "Locksmith" mod. It sets doors and containers to "inaccessible" which makes the lock impossible to pick without the mod or console commands.

[@richlee3777]

Did they have the ammunition ahead of time? In other words, would they bother getting out miniguns if they don't have 5mm ammo? Also, what version of the game are you running? I'm using GOTY on PC, and I've often wished that I could get settlers to arm themselves and I haven't had any luck.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

I gave them one round a each type of ammo so they would be free to choose. Settlers only take a better weapon during an attack, and only if they are fairly close to where the weapon is stored. It should work that way with any version of the game.

[@richlee3777]

@@johnsmithgames6132 Thanks. I'll give it another shot.

[@danielh4836]

I think having an armoury settlement is a good solution; a settlement with no settlers for keeping guns and armour safe. I use the mechanists lair from Automatron because I don't think it can be attacked, but you can still send caravans to ensure it has supplies for crafting.

[@jones81381]

Been a long time since I played, video randomly popped up in my recommended so I decided to watch it, but I believe that any settlement is safe from attack so long as there is no food or water production. Since it was so small and very difficult to build up into a proper, living settlement, I usually turned Hangman's Alley into my private workshop settlement where I kept the vast majority of my crafting mats and all the spare weapons and armors, no settlers or food or water production, just storages full of different things and crafting stations and it never did get attacked.

[@PlayshotKalo]

Home Plate is my main storage place, all my legendaries and rare items go there

[@danielh4836]

@PlayshotKalo Home plate is nice, but the main issue with it is that without mods, you can't send caravans to it to have access to supplies from other settlements for crafting/modding weapons

[@LloydSummers]

This was great thank you

[@ward9]

Is there a mod that will allow terminals to lock safes in your settlement?

[@johnsmithgames6132]

For PC there's one called Locksmith.

[@johnarbuckle6583]

Its not a problem unless they have ammo for the weapon, then?

[@johnsmithgames6132]

That's correct. They can get ammo from a dead NPC during an/after an attack though.

[@thoriated]

I've had a settler fire a Fatman in a Hangman's Alley fight. I must have put ammo in a chest as well. Or maybe a suicide bomber got killed before theirs went off.

[@Ledzepisbest1]

What if you built a wall, then add a roof to said wall. Then add a chest/container on top of the roof? Leave no stairs or easy access to chest. You place weapon in chest by jumping and adding it that way? Just curious cause that's what I've been doing.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

I briefly tested a similar idea that seems to work. Build a tall set of stairs and add a floor piece at the top. Put a container on top and add your stuff, then store the stairs, leaving the floor hanging. Just put the stairs back when you need to. The only drawback is having to remember to remove the stairs absolutely every time.

[@Ledzepisbest1]

@@johnsmithgames6132 Can you just jump to reach your container? If not, try my method cause all you have to do is jump, open the container menu, and transport goods into it. Thanks again

[@johnsmithgames6132]

@@Ledzepisbest1 I actually just use armor racks.

[@Ledzepisbest1]

@@johnsmithgames6132 Ok so armor racks do conceal the weapons from settlers even during an attack?

[@johnsmithgames6132]

@@Ledzepisbest1 That they do - it's in the video, the settlers run right by the armor racks.

[@WUZLE]

I've only ever found a legandary weapon from my chests on a settler once, and I may have given it to him by accident. Maybe it's because I arm them pretty well as soon as I have the weapons to do so, and I only keep legendaries at one settlement.

[@DevBytesWithAdil]

how do build a player house that's only used by myself? can i put a lock on the door or something? i build a basic house, brought piper with me, woke up with her only to find out a random settler taking a dump in my toilet...

[@johnsmithgames6132]

If there's anything inside your house that a settler can use, like a chair, a bed, or a workstation, the game sometimes will spawn them inside the building. I use the mod "Locksmith" to lock doors and containers. It locks them to the "inaccessible" level so nobody can pick them. If you're on PC you can do the same thing with a console command.

[@haurenox7686]

Wait, settlers can loot stuff from the mannequins? I always heard pretty much everybody say that settlers can't take items from them which seemed to work for me, now I'm wondering if it was just a fluke. Also I would have reservations about the 'concrete box', I've witnessed settlers take weapons from storage that was inaccessible for them, they just do the grabbing animation and remotely loot it.

[@unknownrider3071]

Watch that part again - the settlers ran right past the armor racks without taking anything.

[@haurenox7686]

​@@unknownrider3071Thanks, you're right, for some reason I missed that part and confused it with the weapon racks.

[@rzgaming5678]

I ran into these issues especially with random power armor suits i would find, so i would just use either the commander room in the castle or Home base as my main storage rooms

[@jkohlers]

even in 2024 is still useful information. love that video. Can attackers steal the weapons from the workshop too?

[@johnsmithgames6132]

Yes they can.

[@alexandredescheneaux938]

More safe if your wall is more high and put turret on it. Its work for sure

[@andreivasileiorga287]

Thats why i prefere to store anything in vault 111. Of course with a mod that clean the vault.

[@noobgun12]

There is my minigun ja My rocketlauncher My dead spouse my flamethrower etc

[@kevindavis5966]

Did you give the settlers bobby pins to even have a chance of opening the locked safes?

[@johnsmithgames6132]

Settlers can't pick locks without a mod.

[@kevindavis5966]

@@johnsmithgames6132 oic

[@michaelbiri6676]

You forgot that steps seem to also prevent them from getting to a storage :D

[@johnsmithgames6132]

After making this video I tested using stairs to build a platform for storage, then removing the stairs. It worked.

[@DandyMonty]

So those of us without the DLC have to keep them stored up in a floating container far from reach.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

Console locked containers and concrete boxes don't need DLCs.

[@tesityr6722]

@@johnsmithgames6132 If I may, Concrete Walls/Structures/etc is part of the Wasteland Workshop DLC (included with Game Of The Year, but many may not have that version).

[@adamp2572]

Well done!!

[@johnsmithgames6132]

Thanks!

[@danm2084]

Ive always kept my guns in my workshop and nothing has ever gone missing. Weird. Did they have a gun on them already? Or were they completely unarmed?

[@johnsmithgames6132]

During an attack if a settler is close to your workbench, or goes close to it, and there is a better weapon and ammo there they will take it. Given enough time and attacks it'll happen. For your other question I'm pretty sure they were unarmed or just had pipe pistols.

[@danm2084]

@@johnsmithgames6132 damn really? Maybe I just haven't noticed because there's so many weapons in my weapons tab of the workshop. Also, sanctuary seems to rarely get attacked for me, which is where i keep basically everything. Also, do they take it if you dont have ammo to match the weapon? Cuz i dont store any ammo, as i just play on very hard, so maybe they dont grab a weapon if theres no ammo to go with it?

[@johnsmithgames6132]

@@danm2084 They have to have ammo, which they can get from dead attackers. So if a settler picks up a laser weapon and ammo from a dead raider they then can take any weapon that uses fusion cells.

[@danm2084]

@@johnsmithgames6132 ahh okay thank you. I just noticed when i went to defend a settlement one of my settlers was using a minigun, and i checked her out and she had 500 5mm ammo on her from the super mutant warlords. There were so many of them with miniguns lol. I cant believe i never noticed this before. Thanks, subbing for being kind enough to respond.

[@kylespringer2355]

Give the settlers strong weapons with decent damage an in my experience they rarely try to pull more weapons off of the gun racks.

[@TheInsaneShecklador]

What happens to the locked safe if the settlers have bobby pins?

[@johnsmithgames6132]

I don't think settlers are programmed to pick locks.

[@prime_optimus]

Why would they even gave bobby pins?

[@thoriated]

@@prime_optimus The settlers can spawn with random objects in their inventory. I'm pretty sure I've seen bobby pins when I've re-equipped settlers. I usually take anything they don't need to have.

[@Raistlin2k]

The Problem with your test is you are in the cell ... In game if your settlement is attacked, with you in another cell, nothing helps anymore ... You try to hord an ammo typ and a weapon on survival and for later use and they fuck you over ... years ago you could buld a multi level building and store you stuff on the highest level but that don't works anylonger to.

[@boofuu3145]

make home plate the base

[@robertravena]

I keep all my Legendaries and special items at Home Plate as it has NO trader connection at all.

[@tedcook9621]

I tend to store weapons and ammo separately. I learned to do this after getting killed when Marcy Long fried me with my own fatman a couple times during a raider attack.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

If a settler picks up just one round from an attacker all of your weapons that use that ammo are up for grabs.

[@tedcook9621]

@@johnsmithgames6132 Damn. I had but two mini nukes, she used both of them. Crispy crittered me. Since when do raiders carry mini nukes?

[@frosty23silver87]

The way to keep items secure... well i put stuff in that room at diamond city , I only I have the key for it. It secured

[@scubaguy007]

I’ve noticed that if I put weapons in the blue cooler that they never get touched by my settlers, but if I put them in the workbench they always get stolen. And they steal him from the green ammo crates yellow explosive boxes too. But I never put weapons in furniture, that’s just silly. 😉

[@johnsmithgames6132]

Settlers won't go very far out of their way to get a weapon, so you've probably just had the cooler in a good spot. The workbench and crafting stations are all linked. If you put a weapon in one they can steal it from another.

[@ghislainpitre7031]

build concrete walls around and move parts of the wall when you need to go inside

[@johnsmithgames6132]

That's in the video.

[@enzobolilan2170]

I even put it the workshop and they still steal.

[@JadeDude1973]

Settlers can't use elevators; make a private storage room accessible only by elevator.

[@kevk7769]

What are the codes for the game?

[@johnsmithgames6132]

What codes do you mean?

[@richiearruda3761]

Good God thankfully I'm only level 14 right not but I have a ton of weapons and armor and shit just sitting in a safe in sanctuary😮😮😮 I thought they would be secure seeing as it's a freaking safe!!! Holy crap I have so much crap to move right now.... This is going to be fun🙄

[@unknownrider3071]

Settlers and attackers don't steal armor or clothing as far as I know. I've always put them wherever it was convenient.

[@sonet2116]

Create a floating platform and everytime you want to take some shit, just put a ladder, grab your stuff and then just erase the stairs.

[@tmbarry]

I leave all of my special armor and guns at Home Plate

[@spacemarinesruleall]

Nah, just carry all of it. Every single thing

[@flelllilx]

Is this a mod or you can do this in game.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

That's all in game. Some of the items, like the armor racks, are from DLCs though.

[@NinjaZXRR]

You can leave all your items in a box no one will take them as its an offline only game. I never had my items taken when I played

[@johnsmithgames6132]

You might be thinking Fallout 76. NPCs in FO4 are programmed to take better weapons if one is available and not too far out of their way. If you watch this video you can see how it happens.

[@GeneralSantucci1st]

I thought the safe was secure like only you can get in it .

[@unknownrider3071]

Before I did these tests I probably thought the same thing.

[@macgamer1973]

Their mod now to lock the containers

[@zachdemand4508]

All you need to do is create something the AI cant find a path through. A small gap between floor tiles or between stairs and the floor that the player can easily jump across can cause pathing issues for the AI. Problem solved.

[@Qu1rqy9190]

Can’t steal my stuff if they’re all dead.

[@NomadxElliot]

I've literally never had this happen to me.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

I have. Just because your home has never been burglarized doesn't mean it won't be tomorrow.

[@NomadxElliot]

Well usually what's on my workshop is throwaway weapons that I haven't scrapped or mean to give to settlers anyways, and my main weapons and collectible guns are always at a separate area where settlers never really go or wander, so I guess that's a way to avoid it happening, dunno, but good to know it's a thing that happens.

[@Asamixrin]

Nice. Too bad weapon racks can be stolen from, wonder why? since armour racks are safe.. oh bethesda. thanks dude!

[@paulus121212]

Or download the lockable door mod

[@Dienow3xw]

Just fill the settlement with custom assaultron dominators from the automatron DLC lmao

[@Mabra51]

That "bureau" doesn't look like a bureau at all.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Bureau

[@Mabra51]

@@johnsmithgames6132 But why is it called a bureau if it's not one?

[@johnsmithgames6132]

@@Mabra51 Sorry, you were talking about real life and not the game. The definition of "bureau" is a bit vague, but there are some that look like FO4's version: touchthewood.co.uk/waiting-room/

[@Mabra51]

@@johnsmithgames6132 Bureau just means desk, and some of these (and the ones in Fo4) look more like wardrobes, that's why it's really confusing to me.

[@quadg5296]

@@Mabra51 a bureau is actually a folding desk. it has a door that folds down into a desk. or it has like a roller shutter and an extending desk with a desk you have to move everything and lock it in the draws. or lock the room. with a bureau you just close it and lock it. to secure everything. my mum always did the accounts in a bureau and locked it to keep it away from us pesky kids. it also looks nice when its not being used. and takes up far less space. the cupboard on top which makes it look like a wardrobe, just gives you more lockable space. they were especially used for letter writing. and storing. you lock your phone to hide your texts from your spouse. letter writers used a bureau.

[@alecbuxton5515]

That is why I don't make settlements in fallout 4 the settlers are lazy and have lite fingers it takes you hours of grinding or tons of junk to make decent weapons then dummies want to take them because they don't want to make or buy them

[@rebelrouzer3799]

I hate when they steal your power armor

[@Godzillah]

It’s easier just to build a storage and put it in there

[@divyajnana]

Wow, armor racks safe, Never heard that. That is cool info as you don't have to lock Armor racks. Wish I had heard that before my playthroughs. Had heard of workstations being looted, but never really bothered. Wonder how much of my stuff got ripped off, Considering that you're 2 Settlers ran off with multiple chain guns. Thank you for the info.

[@johnsmithgames6132]

You are welcome! My first playthrough I got Danse's weapon (Self-Rightous Authority) and was really proud of it. A bit later it wasn't in the workshop so I started checking the settlers. Just a stroke of luck the first one had it, and also had five more weapons. I've been a lot more careful since.

[@divyajnana]

@@johnsmithgames6132 I always kept my weapons/armor in my bedroom in Sanctuary. Guess that is why I never missed things BUT god know what got pilfered from the workshop.