Fallout 76 - Is The Gauss Shotgun Actually Bad?

Рет қаралды 7,152

Wiggle Plays

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 93

@ImperatorNocturne 3 ай бұрын

i used it as a sidearm for my melee build, went from 1 shotting supermutants to it tacking 4-5 shots, stashed it

@ToyotaCorolla-en2mv 3 ай бұрын

You saw those posts and just took them as fact and are parroting that huh lol

@ImperatorNocturne 3 ай бұрын

@@ToyotaCorolla-en2mv no, i tried it out myself

@casty6339 3 ай бұрын

Try cold shoulder

@ToyotaCorolla-en2mv 3 ай бұрын

@@ImperatorNocturne feel like thats you doin something wrong

@elbubsio4947 2 ай бұрын

@@ToyotaCorolla-en2mv I don't think he/she is. I came here to watch this video because I've just logged back into the game after taking a break for a few months. My gauss shotty used to do 99x8 dmg. I noticed it didn't seem to be as good when I tried it again. Checked it's stats and it now only does 62x8. That's nearly a 40% nerf. It's made it pretty useless now. What makes it worse is according to the patch notes I read, it was supoposed to be getting an upgrade 😡

@asazycat5467 3 ай бұрын

Still sucks. 1.Cold shoulder spam has similar dps than uncharged rapid fire gauss shotgun (keeping in mind gauss shotty fires faster in third person due to a bug) 2.Gauss rifle has the same base damage, more range and can have a suppressor attached for more consistent stealth damage 3.Both of the stated weapons are easier to get than a gauss shotgun because they aren't locked behind a reputation grind Everything you killed in this video could have been killed faster with either weapons. Never mind you have to invest time so many perks just to make it work If I can kill a demolisher with 1 charged gauss rifle (on the torso) shot as a bloodied stealth rifleman then I should be able to do the same with a loud bloodied aggressive gauss shotgun but I can't. This thing relies on headshots/crits to one shot mildly tougher enemies while the rifle doesn't.

@mikeoneal6715 3 ай бұрын

The reason why the cold shoulder does so well is because it has CRYO damage which not many enemies have that resistance while the gauss shotgun has ballistic/energy damage witch everything in the game has and because of those differences the gauss shotgun's damage is heavily resisted while the cold shoulder isn't as resisted because of the cryo damage and the lack of enemies with cryo resistance

@asazycat5467 3 ай бұрын

@mikeoneal6715 most enemies are having their resistances reduced in all types. That hardly matters at all

@KasumiKills 3 ай бұрын

@@mikeoneal6715 basically its not as cost efficient vs other weapons in the same category, low budget investments like the gauss rifle and even the pistol is way better then the gauss shotgun now

@2shoes155 2 ай бұрын

Cold shoulder is way better. Every gauss uncharged shot seems inconsistent. If you’re going to charge it you’re better off with a bloodied bow with flaming arrows. Or even a Gauss rifle without sneaking lol.

@Silversmith70 3 ай бұрын

The thing with that particular shotgun is its special. Its harder to get, you have to grind reputation for it. Its okay but it should be in the really good range IMO.

@2shoes155 2 ай бұрын

Compare it to a commando build where you can 2 tap with 20-30 in the mag at a much greater distance. I think it needs to be doing what it did when wastelanders launched. Minus the glitched damage to scorch queen. If you need to be next to the mob and only have 8 in the mag you should be one tapping everything.

@HayastAnFedayi 3 ай бұрын

For those that remember and ran with it when it first came out then yes it does suck now, but for those who weren’t around for that it’s more acceptable and fun imo, too much of a bitter taste in my mouth with how much fun it was running with it back in the day. Hard to put into words but it just smacked harder back in say 2021.

@cycleboy8028 3 ай бұрын

Smacked harder in first half of 2024 too... not OP, but good and solid. Wiggle had to fully dedicate the build here... max Shotgunner, Demo, all Science cards, etc. No room for any "alt weapon" cards for situational use.

@KasumiKills 3 ай бұрын

@@cycleboy8028 Yup exactly, not to mention the god roll effect for it right now is the explosive 2nd star is boosting it higher than normal

@HayastAnFedayi 3 ай бұрын

@@cycleboy8028totally agree…I remember getting it after grinding for the Settler Rep and it actually felt like it was worth the grind…just like losing legacies or having the Cremator nerfed we all move on and adapt and still have fun but I can’t convince myself some weapons are still top notch and or fun in their present state.

@jdh9676 3 ай бұрын

I never used the weapon back then but did begin using it before its recent nerf into the ground. It was amazing. I know many OG users put it away after its range nerf but for those who started using it later? It was still amazing. Great range, immense stopping power, a truly unique shotgun in game. Some who thought the Cold Shoulder was better? They most likely just didn't know how to set a Gauss shotty up. Now? It's "just another" shotgun, really. I still use it...I've adjusted. But its not the same experience, exactly. I've had to change Legendary effects, weapon mods, and playstyle to make it viable in more than a few scenarios. Bethesda put out a dev statement regarding the issue which offers a little light at the end of the tunnel, however: "We realize the initial update to the Gauss Shotgun was not sufficient in making up for damage lost with the earlier change to how explosive damage is calculated. We'll continue to observe this weapons performance and will make further updates if needed to ensure it meets expectations." Well...I have my fingers crossed. At this point I'd take even 70% back of what they took from it.

@HayastAnFedayi 3 ай бұрын

@@jdh9676 I’m as well hoping they return it to its former glory because it was amazing! And I agree with everything you said! I never really liked the Cold Shoulder, don’t get me wrong extremely powerful but it just lacked that “oomph” feeling when shooting it, would have been amazing if they did explosive cryo rounds instead of just cryo rounds, that way it would feel and sound better and it would spread the cryo splash damage all over the place. Shottys in general I used to love, ran forever with a Bloodied Explosive Combat shotty until it was pummeled into the ground!

@iapprovelolis5123 3 ай бұрын

Since the update that added the caravans I been experiencing a glitch where the reloading animation plays out completely but the gauss shotgun doesn’t reload any bullets and it’s been getting so frustrating

@michaelbenecke1842 3 ай бұрын

I'm have that reload glitch with every weapon

@Hedgehobbit 3 ай бұрын

Angry Turtle was just talking about how Assassin's armor (which reduces damage from humans) actually works against the damage from your own explosive weapons. That way you could use this weapon up close.

@ianhorn5466 3 ай бұрын

My shotgunner only really uses Cold Shoulder and a vampires VATS hit chance reduced AP cost gauss shotgun which work very well. Also carry a M79 for range and a melee/gauntlet weapon. I'm wearing Civil Engineer but will change it to Thorn eventually.

@Bubbstar 3 ай бұрын

Sounds like a pretty fun build tbf. I like the inclusion of the m79

@bryan-7997 3 ай бұрын

Ay. I’m in the Same boat too but without the M79 and with Vamp Ogua/Fist. I’m also running Unyeilding Thorn 4/5.

@OddRickk 3 ай бұрын

I use the Gauss and the Cold Shoulder all the time and im happy with both

@Prisoner1O5 16 күн бұрын

I’m finding that science perks don’t increase the damage at all. So that would save you some. Also vampire is so good with this.

@FLUXXEUS 3 ай бұрын

I just got my gauss shotgun after the revamp and only use it for event tagging _😅😅_

@sephirothdoug Ай бұрын

I try a lot to like this weapon, but it is very bad right now, coldsholder is way more strong than this, and easy to get, pepper shaker is better than this too, so there is no reason to use this one sadly

@lissanderknight6567 Ай бұрын

But does it good for farming ultracite gauss ammo for gauss minigun on daily ops?

@Steve-go6oq 3 ай бұрын

So this evening I was in the same world as someone with a Pepperahaker. Not a PA build, they were dropping mutants long range in two shots. PC so not sure if we're seeing hacked weapons back but I haven't seen something drop a super mutant like that since legacies got removed let alone something in the shotgun lineup. Interesting times.

@exoticify5073 3 ай бұрын

I run a vamp/exp/90%reduced and with vats u can easily take down super mutants if you use the fusion mag

@Steve-go6oq 3 ай бұрын

@@exoticify5073 I'm always happy to test new combos. I can craft Vamps and Exp now so will give it a go. 😁

@exoticify5073 3 ай бұрын

@@Steve-go6oq just make sure to use skeet shooter or else you won't be hitting much 😅

@Steve-go6oq 3 ай бұрын

@@exoticify5073 yeah the Pepperahaker is an interesting beast with it's cross over between heavy and shotty. 😁

@exoticify5073 3 ай бұрын

@@Steve-go6oq if u want even more damage run bloodied, but i like staying alive so vampires is for me 🤣

@lunarhexagon8108 3 ай бұрын

I am thinking to return to shotgunner build but sadly reach may be issue I guess, but I remember it be fun a bit, except getting to much used to cripple anything and be done with it, also vampire for shotguns was awfully nerfed since you can have single instance per shot.. why even, it do work easily with flamers for spamming free healing but cant work with shorguns for healing bursts for some reasons

@Bubbstar 3 ай бұрын

Crazy how a shotgun has 56% explosive damage 😅

@himynamelscolin 2 ай бұрын

I still use it but it’s definitely a pale shadow of its former self-thing used to absolutely melt

@Salvation4U 3 ай бұрын

The paint came from Nuclear Winter😢

@RedVoteRedemption 3 ай бұрын

I have it and didn’t know how 😅

@JACKALz 2 ай бұрын

The fact that I have to sacrifice my 50crit for an explosive mod is absolute B.S, so it sucks

@cycleboy8028 3 ай бұрын

I will revise my complaints. However I will have to change 1 of my Shotties to Explo on second star. I'm wondering if the extra explosive is mitigating the drop in other damage with my build. Also, I usually run some "alt weapon" cards for versatility. The changes were very noticeable after update. Again, I'll check with another weapon modded with Explo to see if there is a vast change. EDIT: Oh... and you are running all Science cards... that's a lot of dedication to one weapon.

@wiggle_plays 3 ай бұрын

I agree. I'm not a fan of the way science perks are handled. By changing them to add energy weapon damage, they are admitting that energy guns are generally lacking. The better option would have to been to buff the weapons. 15 perk points is too high of cost for weapon damage perks.

@willblake72 3 ай бұрын

I agree, these are as good as they have ever been (since the range nerf) and explosive is a nice party trick. Most of the hand wringing comes from the nerf to Vampires. My shotgun character has always run low health and relied on Vampires to stay alive and now that's a little bit less reliable because of the change. I might switch my shotgunner to PA or just go full health with it. It's still plenty of damage and very fun. I also have yet to die with that character since the update...so maybe the vampires was overkill anyway.

@wiggle_plays 3 ай бұрын

The Vampire's change makes it much less attractive for shotguns. I used to run a Vamp combat shotty and don't bother with it anymore.

@willblake72 3 ай бұрын

@@wiggle_plays I still enjoy the ricochet synergy and mainly run vampire weapons on most low health builds. It's lazy but I like to not have to think about about healing.

@wiggle_plays 3 ай бұрын

I tested Ricochet recently and it's broken/changed. Works for the first hit from an enemy. After that, it will make the sound but won't give you healing from Vampire's.

@willblake72 3 ай бұрын

@@wiggle_plays I was unintentionally "testing" it a couple days ago at a freezing eviction notice. I was continuously healing as I was slowly walking towards muties shooting with a minigun, and at the time I was in the stealth suit because I was trying to get to the rad scrubber. But I trust you too so now I need to keep looking into it. It was definitely keeping me alive. I was on the bow character, so should have been getting a pretty big dose of health from any triggered heal, maybe that's what was making it constantly regen. I was also taking hits from multiple enemies so maybe that made a difference? Interesting. We need a manual.

@wiggle_plays 3 ай бұрын

My testing was not extensive. I went into a silo and stood under a turret. I had ricochet and a vamp weapon equipped. I was also wearing Solar armor. Prior to the update, my health would have pegged at full. It was gradually dropping. Ricochet would still trigger but there was no healing associated with it. I didn't do any testing beyond that.

@samuelalleman4697 3 ай бұрын

I have a double explosive with anti armor and perforating rounds, 3* slot is still negotiable. P.S. I’m not a VATS user. And i enjoy using it with the cold shoulder

@cyrilkian9097 3 ай бұрын

Uses a weapon with a charge up mechanic. Proceed to note use it

@bryan-7997 3 ай бұрын

It’s good for mine since I’m just running towards enemies and VATS their heads up close and personal lol.

@gram1313 3 ай бұрын

Having a lot of fun with my two shot explosive +15 ! When i miss the First shot in Vats i back out load Vats up again it will hit the second time around ❤

@jakefletch8405 3 ай бұрын

I loved this gun a couple of years ago but eventually got tired of it jamming up all the time. Bethesda refused to fix it so I gave up on it.

@beachmaster9042 3 ай бұрын

Alot of the exp mod is just for show, oddly it works good on the fixer. I am all in on gauss shotty build, frustrating, remember quad mod does not add damage.

@Myst291 15 күн бұрын

When you have to do sneak vats criticals to do any damage and give it so many excuses it's not a good gun

@OnlineHipHopTV 3 ай бұрын

It used to be one of the most fun and best weapons. Now you are better off using the cold shoulder.

@julianmorris7954 3 ай бұрын

I think is lame that explosive effect on the flamer and cryolater are useless.

@mantistabbogan1731 3 ай бұрын

Man I wish shottys were good 😔

@mikeoneal6715 3 ай бұрын

The problem with the gauss shotgun you need so many perks to make it work and then you got the gauss minigun that only needs 5 perks to make it work good the heavy gunner perks bloody mess and stabilized and for reference my gauss minigun is anti armor not explosive and it shreds all the normal enemies in the game This goes to show that shotguns need more perks for armor penetration because without armor Pent the enemy defenses is just gonna EAT the damage like it's nothing

@bradleygronski817 2 ай бұрын

I loved this gun and now it's garbage.

@Glenningway 3 ай бұрын

Not too bad, I read torso shots spread the explosive effect better than headshots. Many shotgunners just do headshots with this weapon, but it's not as effective as torso shots. I think AA/EX/-25 is the best roll for this since vat criticals got nerfed as well. Though I've embraced auto-melee/carnivore. It's a better build for everything this game throws at you.

@Kampfirekid 3 ай бұрын

Yes. I paid bullion for it like two days ago and regretted it. Just 20 minutes ago, I got it from the Purveyor. Either way, I feel your version is the best one you could get. Even with all science, and I remove my grounded mutation - it won't do jack shit. Id rather stick to my two shot explosive gatling gun

@Mr3ppozz 3 ай бұрын

Gauss shotty goes pew pew boom boom

@RedVoteRedemption 3 ай бұрын

Saw on PTS it’s getting a buff so I crafted 1. It rolled B/LS/25 so I just had to slap 50c on it 😈

@Dutchvande1899 Ай бұрын

It's not too bad but still bad at the same time. I do about 1,012 damage or a bit more.

@willengage2661 3 ай бұрын

Wait... You're saying that I can't trust everything I see on the internet? 🤣

@wiggle_plays 3 ай бұрын

Surprising, I know.

@Mr3ppozz 3 ай бұрын

First time I've heard of it!!

@RedVoteRedemption 3 ай бұрын

“Don’t trust everything you see on the internet” - Abraham Lincoln

@DadamL97 3 ай бұрын

The real test for ANY damage is going to be on another player . . . PvE stats DON'T translate well to PvP; inversely, PvP stats, however, DO translate well to PvE . . . Especially as VATS becomes more prominent in F76 as a whole. Think about it . . . If PvP was more focused, and PvE is supposed to be a "challenge", in any way, to the player(s) . . . Then shouldn't mob hp/dmg be based off of the player's potential? (i.e. if it can't take down another player, then logically, how could it handle a ScorchedBeast Queen?)

@asazycat5467 3 ай бұрын

Pvp is close to dead.

@funfun701 3 ай бұрын

My favorite shotgun

@Thanoswasright_ 3 ай бұрын

How

@albusplaustrum06 3 ай бұрын

"Not everything you read on the Internet is true." - Wiggles Plays The Internet is not going to let that slide dude...stay strapped. 🤣

@renanpereira1445 3 ай бұрын

Explosive gauss pistol is amazing too! But I got the feeling that the explosive legendary damage on gauss is a unintended effect... I'm afraid that might me a nerf on this.

@asazycat5467 3 ай бұрын

It's intended. Hydraskillz, a bethesda developer said so sometime ago in the pts

@ViolinPilot 3 ай бұрын

Are you Canadian? Curious since you pronounce Gauss as Gaoooose like Moose instead of Gauss like moss.

@Outnumbered001 Ай бұрын

Yes

@donnerblitzen1388 3 ай бұрын

No. It’s still good, but everyone has been using it as a rifle - not as a shotgun. Also, everyone might be forgetting about the energy perks that are needed to boost the weapon damage as well. The update did nerf it slightly, but it now requires multiple perks to maximize damage instead of what it was previously required. It needs: Science perks Shotgun perks Demolition expert Skeet shooter Concentrated fire - if you have a VATS legend effect and that’s not even a guarantee you will hit. Batteries included for ammo The shotgun reload perk If you don’t use VATS, you will have a better chance of getting middle of the body shots or even head shots. It’s considered an end game item and should be treated as such and one should have the necessary perks to use the weapon.

@KasumiKills 3 ай бұрын

Eh thats the problem people compare it to other weapons that require less build to make it work whereas this you need to put in the build to make it function that same as an otherwise top tier weapon. lol so you're just proving them right.

@briang4411 3 ай бұрын

Why do you mainly heat aristocrats and not anti armor for full health/bloodied for low? I know you personally like it but isn't there way better damage output with AA and B?

@sirdigbychickencaesar71 3 ай бұрын

nah its still poopoo, but it had a moment just before the milepost update that it was useable and then they messed it up again.

@Thing696 3 ай бұрын

Folks really tend to exaggerate everything with this game. “It’s terrible! I’m useless! Bethesda doesn’t want me to have fun! They should be arrested!” 😂 This game is easy AF. If someone is struggling AT ALL with a gauss shotgun, that’s on them. The issue is mostly range. It’s a shotgun..