Fallout 76 - Secret Service Armor vs T-65 Power Armor (Which is the BEST?)

[@cuzzintodd5939]

You left out the most important reason Secret Service beats T-65 (or any power armor): When I'm in power armor nobody can see how good I look in my red sequined cocktail dress.

[@ThePdog3k]

That dress rules.

[@user-ie1cq3bc5j]

@Zane Black how can I get it?

[@undernetjack]

Gold is the new Red, mah frien' I add the Mirror Sunglasses and the Captain's hat (sailor captain). A 10 on stage anywhere....lol.

[@QB941g]

Best answer Cuzzin!

[@wildfeuer]

Ja! Exactly!

[@anthonyc5525]

As one of your subscribers that use headphones when watching your content. Your voice sounds EXCELLENT. Keep up the good work! Cheers

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Thank YOU so much. Still tweaking and getting used to the microphone but this voice audio only had a noise removal, compression and amplification done to it - zero other post processing like increasing bass. I'm really happy with it!

[@illusion-]

Regarding heavy guns being the sole reason to run in power armor. Do not neglect the rifles who aren't silenced like laser. Plasma and railway rifle to name a few. Personally I run with a bloodied railway rifle with a plasma flamer on swap and both are extremely loud weapons that does not lend well to a sneaky playstyle. But the powerarmor protects me so much more than the secret service set i have underneath. Mainly for getting better result crafting and scrapping ( unyielding ) Next patch pa users can get poison resistance from legendary perks and I think we'll see more pa users then

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Haha yeah that's what I hinted to later in the video :P

[@rodemic]

Yesss! The Procaster sounds SO good! Love it ❤️

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

You're the best 😍

[@boistory6339]

@@LoneVaultWanderer i'm just a lonevaultwanderer

[@bloodsuckinflea]

I think the real reason that you feel more protected in the T-65 is that you're dealing with consistent reduction in damage in power armor versus burst damage taken in SSA. So you have a lot more control of the stimpak situation because you can see the damage coming rather than in bursts.

[@teipkep]

In power armor, you don't need all those cards with damage ressistance tho, thats the "benefit" of power armor.

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Yeah for sure!

[@BeKind1Love]

I still use blocker and ricochet

[@photofinish8607]

Bigger target, easier to hit. Don't need any armor if you don't get hit.

[@teipkep]

@@photofinish8607 Did you ever play the game at any point at all after daily ops ?

[@photofinish8607]

@@teipkep What do you mean...

[@greatomegax8175]

I love how the secret service armor in looks and actual tanky stats it's like a mini power armor more like a mini t65 power armor almost identical too

[@professorcunningham8106]

Now that I've played with both, I can say in my experience that the T-65 is much more durable than SS, even with good legendary effects. When I'm in the T65, I almost never have to worry about dying. When in SS, I actually have to keep track of my health in combat. ...of course, I do much more damage in SS, so it really depends on what role you want to play.

[@ERG_elmejorcountryball]

I will only grind for the ss PA because I’m a heavy gunner PA build so that dmg resist is amazing for me also I just like how it looks

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Yeah for sure! The damage resist plus the inherent protection (a flat % damage reduction for each piece), makes it great

[@jksanford]

Thanks for the comparison. I've gotten the complete set of normal armor and am now grinding out the T-65. I'm glad I went with the regular armor first, but I can't wait to have the complete T-65 in my inventory.

[@afnao]

T-65 is NEVER worth it. Well, unless you have bought everything else and want to throw some gold away. FInd a t-51b suit and use it instead. Only difference is a a bit more rads in blast zones. If you care that much about rads go for x-01. T-65 would be good if it had legendary effect, but a few more points of damage resistance make little difference. Save your gold for SS armor.

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

I do think it's worth it if you want the best of the best and you use heavy guns a lot, but yeah, secret service armour is better for most out there

[@rockstarskinnys3370]

Agree

[@BeKind1Love]

There is no question. One for pa and one not. I have both and love both equally like some children lol. Id go for strangler heart but cant find protocol torso and calibrated shocks.

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Haha yeah! That's the downside with most other power armours - the T-65 is very easy to get the mods since it's just gold

[@user-zz5xx4ld1r]

The strangler heart runs off ultracite PA mods so if you have ultracite mods or plans you can mod strangler heart just FYI

[@BeKind1Love]

@@user-zz5xx4ld1r yeah calibrated shocks are insanely rare

[@IgorTurgenev-UK]

I have both the T65 and SS Unyielding and they took so long to grind for but its so worth it. I also have every other power armour in the game with every other mod which turned out to be really expensive just in caps and not bullion. Day to day play i use SS but for the harder enemies i like to jump in my T65. Great video as always 👍

[@Spartan51692]

T-65 armor just looks so great. That reason was enough for me to spend the gold on it.

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Oh doesn't it just? It's my favourite looking, honestly!

[@mattpaxton8247]

How much is it total?

[@Spartan51692]

@@mattpaxton8247 6900 bullion before mods.

[@rileyenia9388]

I love the look of t65 but idk I think xo1 is still the sexiest

[@rileyenia9388]

F P omg yes if I don’t have time to grind I’m gonna buy the season for that alone cuz green house will def become gold vendor item

[@erikdevos8482]

The reason you die slower on a bloody build in power armor is emergencie protocol.that mod allone is the best reason on a bloody build heavy gunner to run power armor if your running a full health build or any other bloody build its best to use normal armor

[@ErikAnger]

Honestly wish I had more time to grind out the armors, I just have the legs and chest for t-65 but I also want SS armor, it just takes to long for me

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

You'll get there mate! Just get those treasury notes and it won't take you long to get the pieces

[@INC823]

Ss armor is better now with the deep pocket mods for the arms good luck on the grind for it

[@diablerietandino1941]

I hear you man. I honestly can't stand time gated content. I can generate treasury notes faster than I can turn them in. I absolutely hate we are capped at 200 a day (and yes I know about the 300 we can buy per week) I just decided I want to pursue a set of secret service armor and it is daunting to think I'll be spending the next couple of months getting enough gold to get the armor and mods I want, let alone the rng of crafting good pieces.

[@INC823]

Diablerie Tandino it’s insane I have over 800 treasury notes and can only return 20 everyday

[@squids5755]

If you use the legendary perk what rads and get it to like rank two, you should have about 500 rad resistance and with the rad regeneration it provides you should be able to stay in nuke zones

[@daneflynn4979]

It suits my medic build perfectly when I have to sprint across the battle zone to give assistance. I need to be able to absorb the damage while coming to stim you.

[@Goblin.The.Bastard]

That t-65 like a two month grind i just got my gauss minigun and this suit is a power armor man's dream right here

[@o_Ol]

if a power armor is not greater than a armor, then this game would be just a nonsense.

[@Reaper-hn1jt]

Sounds pretty legit buddy with the new mic and set up :) Next thing we know you'll be doing your own podcast on fallout 76 all professional like :) Love your rundowns on how the armor and weapon affixes stack up !!

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Thanks so much mate! Haha I'd love to get back into podcasts...

[@Reaper-hn1jt]

@@LoneVaultWanderer You should we are sorely lacking in good fallout 76 related podcast so you would be much appreciated if you have the time and or desire to :)

[@3000KJH]

Finished my SS armour build last night and rolled my final 3 star vanguard piece. But I have 3 builds now SBQ/ Daily ops Heavy Armour build. Rifleman and my newest is the guass shotgun. Which has become my favourite, I can get it close to 1000 Damage now. Which seems good for a full health build.

[@joshstewart9754]

I had started my fallout 76 experience about a month ago now and you were one of the first that I had watched and I am a heavy gun build but I’m torn between using power armor and not using it because of all the pros and cons of both especially the perks of the backpacks and resistances but I’m still unsure what I should shift my build towards

[@teipkep]

Speed also not reduced from using heavy guns while in power armor.

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Forgot that! Excellent point

[@teipkep]

@@LoneVaultWanderer ty for answer, Im a fan! Have a nice day

[@dannykelley8646]

The super mutants must be so confused that you are just standing there and taking it.

[@Catcherzzz]

I really don't like the look of the Secret Service armor and T-65 Power Armor, so Secret Service wins for me, simply cause I can overwrite the armor with a outfit. Fashion > Meta So T-60 is still gonna be my favorite Power Armor, personally think it's the best looking PA set in 76.

[@ChangedCauseYT-HateFoxNames]

I won't lie. You putting time stamps is a good reason to sub win combined with tips.

[@marykfcjane]

Regular armour/heavy guns users can use anti armour weapons to get that armour pen that you just can’t get through the perk system.

[@sallylong5908]

Thanks for all the input on armor choices and perk card combos to go with each one. What about guns? I've mainly been using X-01 and heavy guns lately, but am working on getting the SS armor. What weapons do you prefer with the SS armor? Rifles? Ballistic or energy? There are so many choices and possible perk cards to go with them, it gets confusing. BTW, the new mic sounds good. I do notice a bit of a whistle on your "s" sounds, though. You might be able to correct that in your settings. Congrats on getting your upgrades!

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Generally I prefer ballistic - it performs better than energy. However, the Gauss Minigun is the best heavy gun in the game, and even though it's technically an energy weapon, it deals ballistic and explosive damage :). My main gun is then a gatling gun. Thanks so much Sally! Yeah I noticed the s sounds too. I'm going to try train my voice to not make those S sounds. I try not to post process as much, since it's a tad quicker for me to produce videos.

[@diablerietandino1941]

If you're using heavy guns I'd say just stick with your power armor because of the stabilized perk like what was mentioned in the video. You'll just get more mileage out of it. Ballistic heavy guns are nice, but don't sleep on a good gatling laser for one reason - you can get ammo for it REALLY easily as well as cores for your armor. Take over the poseidon power plant and just turn on the fusion core machine and it will crank out 3 cores roughly every 20 or 30 minutes. I tend to use a gatling laser for normal stuff and pull out my gauss minigun for scorchbeasts or if I fight the wendigo colossus.

[@itelene]

Nice mic, and I have been wondering which set should I invest my gold bullion!! Thanks a lot !

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Thanks Ken! And you're very welcome 😄 Good luck!

[@Ti___ny_______]

I love power armor not just the looks but the idea of it and the feeling of invincibility but since secret serving unyielding is a thing I only pull out the power armor for nuke zones until I finish my perk cards then I will go back to power armor.

[@shmason740]

You’re forgetting one thing, the T65 power armor looks badass

[@HereIsSuperman82]

Ohh yess!!

[@maxneale3328]

Looks and sounds great Lone, love seeing the updates!

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Thanks Max!

[@bellaing6963]

Your a 💯 percent right, it make your voice sound more Natural. Very good Quality. It was good to begin with as well. Thanks again loan😎✌🏻

[@Glenningway]

I've found with SBQ, most drag it away from the nuke zone for the bloodied SS armor people to burn it down. Only hard part is Earle, you leave the cave into a nuke zone but I guess you could just fast travel out too. I'm a former HGB, working on shotguns and just finished Wastelanders so I have ways to go to get a full set of SS armor. Eventually I plan on respec to a stealth shotgun build.

[@RedlegJim]

Not sure if it’s my hearing....the new mic takes out the “tinny” sound in your voice.....and some how reduces your Australian accent.

[@ChistiSabri313]

It's not your hearing i can confirm

[@Mr3ppozz]

Nice description indeed

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Yeah I completely agree! The Blue Yeti doesn't do nearly as well on the low end :)

[@marlenedegrood]

Great explanation… thank you. Where is your camp located in this video? I love it!

[@ChistiSabri313]

Great And very informative video lone! I know when you upload it's always a high quality video That's just your charm , also your new mic sound's more clear Ps. Thanks for this vid i got two really good secret service service legs but could'nt decide if i should continue or grind for T65 this helped me a lot you'r an awesome KZbinr i wish you the best!

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Thanks so much Retro, that means a lot mate. I'd continue finishing your secret service set and then get T-65 when done :)

[@texasboy5680]

I have both and to be honest, I suggest to my friends and use mainly my secret service armour. The reason for this is that you loose all clothing and backpack perks when in pa. My damage and energy resistance is not horribly out of whack, however my rad resistance is greatly dimminished inarmour versus pa.

[@LowbrowDeluxe]

Cntrl-F "Emergency Protocols". If you're using a bloodied build, why wouldn't you?

[@Mr3ppozz]

The audio difference on the Mic is clearly heard and just sounds more clear and crisp... fantastic upgrade imo Quick question on the blue yeti, is it a Mic condenser Mic with a very small audio capture cone (can't think of the correct word atm, if anyone knows please feel free to add or correct me :) ) On the armour differences... I love the SS armour.... got a full unyielding set with deep pocketed and trying for +1 INT and weapon weight reduction or poison resist :p most pieces are with only 2 useful stars atm so I'll try and get them upgraded in time... And literally just bought my first 2 plans for the t65 :p but I really love my excavator simply because of the +200 carry weight xD

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

I'm really glad you think so mate! Thank you :) Yup the Yeti is a condenser microphone, though I'm not sure how large the capture cone is. It's a solid choice if you're just getting into the game, but yeah, dynamic is really where most people should be even if it's just for the external noise removal

[@Mr3ppozz]

@@LoneVaultWanderer thanks Lone! I'm looking to replace my headphone Mic xD so I want to straight away get a dynamic one to save me the double expense... so really helpful to know what to look at and for

[@johnny_2603]

Skip ahead?!?! It wouldn’t be a LVW video without a 5 minute intro 😂

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Hahahahah

[@tyeman3039]

Ok, I can tell you right off, the new microphone has an 1” diaphragm and Yeti I know doesn’t. You can hear the crispness and body of your voice. I use AKG’s C Series. Have since the late 80’s when I did studio work.

[@MrOldandslow]

Great video, as usual. Thanks for all the explanations.

[@aw738]

I have a mixed match of regular armor. Max out Fireproof perk card and the scorch beast attack is almost not even noticeable. I tested this last night. Also I stood on a car and had a friend shoot it. When it exploded my HP never moved.

[@mcfowl]

Actually I don't hear any difference, but then again I watch the youtube videos on my TV with 7.1 DTS surround sound. I use the Blue Yeticaster Studio USB Microphoone that is I purchased from Sweetwater for $219.99 and have adjusted to front pickup door doesn't pick-up everything. You can get it on payments of $5.00 a month for 48 month if you're approved for thier in store credit card. It's an ideal place to purchase streaming along with everything musician and DJ related equipment.

[@mrbobajango7482]

Very good guide! I've been considering buying t65 but gonna stick SS for now. I can't understand how you're achieving 697 BD though. I'm only getting 532 without the armor plated backpack

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Thanks so much mate! It's because I run iron clad, evasive and other things which boost my DR. Have a look at the perk cards and mutations which can help you with resistance :)

[@mrbobajango7482]

@@LoneVaultWanderer no problem at all! Tyvm that really helps! I've also just realised I wasn't in nerd rage as well. Currently grinding for possum badges to get backpack mod 😊

[@accuracynammo6419]

Ultra light or deep pocketed? SSA is coming up in Minerva aswell as Under armor starting tomorrow on the 16th. UL and Lighter sound good but im thinking Deep Pocket all the way

[@accuracynammo6419]

12d and no reply thanks alot man

[@known3617]

You can certainly push your resistance significantly higher with secret service armor with maximum damage resistant perks mutations, full bolstering SS armor and armored backpack mod + sheilded SS under armor you are looking at 902,762, 390. That all sounds great but T-65 is still much better considering emergency protocol cuts all incoming damage in half, throwing blocker and ricochet onto makes you become incredibly tanky and you’ll never die from PVE enemies unless you are under 5% health. In SS armor with serendipity and 400 higher ballistic resistance to T-65 you can still be one shot by larger enemies such as fog crawlers and deathclaws. Fallout 76 damage reduction formula is arbitrarily logarithmic. So the difference between 50 and 250 armor is an order of magnitude greater than the difference between 250 and 500. Thats why its always been said to this day around 350-400 armor is all you really need. At 400 DR your damage reduction is 65%. At 900 damage resistance your reduction is only 80%, it’s 15% better but considering you have over double resistance you gained very little in return. While it’s impossible to ignore 100% of damage from armor alone the formula caps at around 91.98% damage reduction but you need an insane 2,755 Of armor.

[@smitefulaxe1344]

11:20 bear in mind if you're watching this at the same time I am, in the next update power armor will also be able to get legendary mods.

[@mickyovts3872]

Dude sorry i know this is an old video but what would you go for, unyielding secret service or bolstering ?? I have both and the bolstering seems to be worse than unyielding, but its supposed to take more abuse right ?? Also were did you get the secret service backpack plan from please??

[@pariah5473]

6:45 to skip intro and get into what you came for

[@willblake72]

I'm really on the fence between T-65 and strangler and have to make a decision soon since that toon is close to 5k gold and the build is PA only. Already feel invincible in my T-60 or even X01. I never PVP with that guy, but might. Not sure if I want the bonus damage or the extra DR.

[@Al99NextGeneration]

Great video! How about reviewing the new Legendary Perks?

[@lobby76_]

I think your voice is a tag warmer with the new mic. I have both armors and am a bloody heavy gunner. I have made the unyealding ss armor buttressed and i have a poisoners chest piece on standby 😊 thanx for the info 👊

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Yes I agree! It is way less tinny. Awesome set mate. Once legendary perk cards are out, you'll have even more options!

[@lobby76_]

@LoneVaultWanderer thanx mate. I am a builder in game. Are you interested in camp builds? If so i can send a build to you on twitter. 👊

[@rileyenia9388]

Another reason to use power armor is cuz u like it I mean if I’m in the mood I’d run t45 just for the look

[@DH-is6oj]

I just notice the Quantum cup behind you. I need one!!! Was that part of some loot box or you think i can just find one like that?

[@carsonkouts]

I finally got some vanguard secret service pieces and its nasty.

[@REX-gk8wl]

The only thing T65 has over SSA is a targeting hud but that’s gonna change soon. Are you wearing the under Armor?

[@pcraft8785]

Nice 5 minute commercial plug in the beginning

[@BMXguy1989]

I have SS and T65 sets. They're great etc but I prefer the Strangler power armor with my BE 50cal. I can tank Earl at 20% hp lol. and do some mad dps.

[@thewarden237]

Nice video very helpful 👍

[@cadenwilkerson369]

I’ll eventually get T-65 but I’ll stick to my T-51B or X-01. I think the benefits of the secret service is better short term over the long term benefits of T-65. That and Bethesda system of 200 Gold bullion per day. Not worth holding it for that long. I rather get all other items as they are far cheaper and more benefits overall with general gameplay.

[@diablerietandino1941]

yep, I mean the t-65 looks good for example, but just wearing x 01 provides more than enough protection for anything we can currently face in the game, what's a little more dr in the grand scheme? I will get the ss armor on my non power armor using alt most likely simply to do things a bit different, plus it's annoying crawling in and out of PA at times, especially when I need to craft.

[@x_-yx9wc]

Secret service armor looks like a storm trooper

[@tarderis2933]

Secret Service Armor is a mini Power Amor.

[@nitadeal9576]

Thank you for current updates everything else in here is so old it doesn't take into consideration that there have been improvements since last year.

[@hmpang4996]

The real answer is "It depends"

[@encryptedwithin]

There are pros and cons for each. Ss lack cosmetics vs pa but pa lack stats compared to ss as in 1 to 3 star stats

[@I3arbarian]

Yeah, power armor is fantastic for heavy gunners and the reason many love normal armor is because Unyielding is ridiculous. Not to mention the backpacks and legendaries. Also, sneaking is obviously ideal not in power armor lol. I'm looking forward to Funky Duds and Sizzling Style.

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Unyielding really is so good. I enjoy getting so much experience because of the high intelligence

[@dohvahkiin1177]

Anyone else blue with envy of that Vault-Tec gaming chair? How sweet is it? Rock on fellow Aussie Vault Wanderer. 🤘🏼😎🇦🇺

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Haha it is very cool! Was lucky enough to get one :)

[@partyrobbins4690]

This is a underrated channel.

[@benjaminfrost2780]

Ok noob question as someone new to 76. Why in all videos are people running with so much of their health consumed by Radiation? Is it to keep a number of mutations? Because if you aren't melee I didn't see more than a couple mutations worth running vs just having the health. Again I am new aka a noob so I am assuming I am missing something here.

[@jedhlousek128]

Well the thing is in general like you're saying different builds for different situations I have two different builds one I use a t65 power armor and one I do not is a stealth commando that's the only point I don't use power armor is when I'm using my stealth commando

[@xmanb8193]

Got both armors absolutely badass,by far the best in the game

[@markwarren7959]

That's your mic in your hand? I thought you were just happy to see us. 🤣

[@REX-gk8wl]

Skeleton plus bird bones and you can jump naked off the highest cliff zero damage

[@ValathorGT]

PA needs a serious buff to be comparable to the laundry list of benefits armor has over it.

[@spencerswart9227]

Emergency protocol is the reason why power armour is still a very good option. And u dont need t65 power armour to be that resistant even ultracite and xo1 will do

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Yeah Ultracite is a SOLID choice!

[@brothatscrazy3418]

How in the actual fuck is a non power armor set going to be better than power armor. Holy fuck, I hate the balancing in this game.

[@vinicequintilius6529]

do you think the upcoming legendary perk what rads will boost you up enough to work in a nuke zone with out power armor?

[@kejaby]

what weapon are you using during the comparison?

[@ShonenBeats]

uff tha uny/apregen on every ss part dude. Godroll af.

[@colinjones4686]

T-65 cause it kicks ass!!

[@Burial_Site]

Are your secret service armor elbow pads bugged too? Mine are camo for some reason

[@horridfuture3835]

Heavy guns will be the meta as long as sneak isn’t an option for new content.

[@B-dude-]

Honestly I like power armor cuz I don’t have to worry about the rng of getting legendary pieces which especially lately has been a huge downside for people in the game

[@randomcommenter4719]

I play with power armor always so T-65 is my go to. I dont even wear armor under the PA.

[@rileyenia9388]

Random Commenter I tend to use pa all the time but still kit out my guy for when I decide to take a stroll outside without pa and doesn’t hurt to look sexy as fus. Right now out of pa my guy looks like a heavy gunner cowboy

[@chaosmarine8166]

Yes a slim light armor vs a juggernaut steel plated suit of death Sounds fair.

[@Rschont11]

I’m currently grinding this game to get myself a full set of the Secret Service Armor. I hate wearing power armor, the only time I put it on is when I am in the Nuke Zone, other than that, I don’t because it’s clunky, and I just don’t like it.

[@jamesricciutiGenXFed]

It sounds very clear. Nice.

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Thanks James! Glad you think so :)

[@Tyzen7]

Let’s be honest though, Power Armor is THEE staple of Fallout protection. If you aren’t wearing power armor, you aren’t playing Fallout

[@robzilla8084]

Helmets off should be an option.. i didnt master the character creation for nothing..

[@gagaga298]

I’m a level 180 and I don’t have some of those perks wtf

[@Mr.Green918]

I have a full set of Bolstering SS Armor and get around 850 DR!!!

[@harmless_hades33]

I really want all types of power armor

[@dingspingle9121]

Level up (69) heh, nice

[@kaiden8953]

What is your carry weight outside of pa

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

Around the mid 300s from memory

[@Artlas1]

well my sneaking build is definetely not going around in power armor so 👀

[@LoneVaultWanderer]

hahaha yup

[@hunterhudson3293]

yall using 1080p im stuck 720p

[@davidsabillon5182]

I used to be a full health PA build but then I took a handmade bloodied 50 crits 25 vats to the knee.