Fallout 76: What's The Best Auto Axe and Why it's Furious. ;) Turtle's Lab.

[@therealharshlycritical]

This shit is fucking exhausting shit changes every fucking week

[@CUSTOM_V9]

People just test more and find more out pretty normal at the start of a impactful update

[@andrewbrock3675]

If you guys would stop trying to cheese everything and just normally do the content they wouldn't have to change everything.

[@billy_cross]

My friend, nothing has changed about this in oh since the auto act came out really, but you do have to take into account. The boss you’re fighting or the critters are fighting. That boss has almost no resistances. He does have a few immunities, but he has almost no resistances compared to a queen or Earl or something which both have massive resistances now and yes, that changed so when the queen was all about damage reduction 70% damage reduction, she had very little in the way of resistance is like 275 across the board. I don’t know what they are now but they’re in four digit numbers and she has no damage reduction so now it’s all about armor penetration before it was all about quitting Getting through that damage reduction, but the EN06 is not a major boss. It doesn’t have massive resistances. So ballistic damage energy damage or fire damage are all very effective against that boss in fact, holy fire or a regular flame or would probably be very effective if you can hit it from you know if you have the range to hit it. An armor penetration is almost unnecessary on that boss although I obviously would suggest you use whatever perk cards for sure but because it has very low resistances furious is a great first star executioners is not well. Executioners will ramp the damage up a lot. It won’t do it until the thing is more than halfway dead versus furious will be doing it in the first rotation of your auto ask however that auto wax is only going to be good for that boss cause for every other boss you’re gonna want anti armor

[@CUSTOM_V9]

@@andrewbrock3675 that's not cheesing the pounders mod is bugged its good to fix stuff that is insanely broken. It's not us that put it there we just use it because it's there and if more people use use it Bethesda will finally notice how buggy their 4 Stars are

[@andrewbrock3675]

@CUSTOM_V9 using the autoxe in general in that gight is the cheese boss. It's why they're patching it out.

[@sunshinevalley3369]

Crounching and using autoaxe on EN06 can get multiple sneak attacks. With rank 3 of ninja perk, the message indicating 'x2.9 sneak attack' displayed several times when I solo axe EN06. It really helps farming EN06 before I got pounder mod.

[@itsmehere1]

I have been running ninja for a few weeks now and it helps a lot, I think the sneak works because you can hide inside the body of the Guardian, and the turrets can't see you, that and when the shield is broken I'm pretty sure the Guardian is basically knocked out and can't detect you either.

[@frankblack1014]

Why tho? To kill him in 50 seconds opposed to 59 seconds 😒

[@sunshinevalley3369]

@@frankblack1014 I don't need any melee buff with pounder mod, but BEFORE I got the pounder mod, every little bit of melee damage buff helps

[@itsmehere1]

@@frankblack1014 I mean that's 1/5th faster, so yes lol, if it takes you that long in comparison you are getting am extra run every 5 runs, that kind of time save adds up quick.

[@ImOnFire]

I'm a fairly new player, started in late september, only hit lvl200 on one character and then decided to create another one to do the second side of the Wastelander quests. I decided to go full melee with that char (purchased the auto axe with the free atoms because there's no way I'm farming 500 stamps for it), and was basically farming events on a casual team one day, and I guess one of the other guys on the team realised I was auto-axing everything and at some point decided to pop into the Whitespring Mall while I was there, drop mod boxes of Anti-armor, Heavy Hitter's, Strength and Pounder's for me to pick up, waved at me and then left. It's safe to say I'm auto axe for life now, haha. I may not remember your username king, but your gifts are being put to good use. 🙏

[@claypierce6967]

Want to help a brother out😂 I’m lvl 96 and about to get into auto axe but obviously can’t get ponders from raids and don’t have furious and anti armor

[@pz7510]

glad you tested and showed off Executioner's, I've been trying to tell people it's a good legendary effect for a while

[@Teh_Bean]

One explanation I heard is that Furious and Pounder's add together to give you 15% damage per stack up to 109 stacks, vs. the regular 5% for 9 and 10% for 100 respectively. Makes more sense to me than 'Furious is multiplicative when used with Pounder's for some reason.' Edit: I was curious whether or not this was correct so I tested this myself, with a non-auto melee for simplicity. Level 1 combat knife with Furious, Rapid and Pounder's on a demobilized mirelurk queen's legs with no damage boosts other than Incisor and 18 Strength. And Twisted Muscles because I was too lazy to get rid of it. Damage increased for 19 hits by a similar amount each time up to more than 3× the original damage (13 up to 41.) Very consistent with my hypothesis that I would get 9 more max stacks from Furious and an extra 5% damage per stack, totalling +285% more damage at 19 stacks. I suspect I got a bigger increase than that only because of the enemy's DR.

[@AngryTurtle]

nice test it makes sense

[@billy_cross]

This is nonsense. First of all furious is going to be additive with all other damage boosts and furious is going to cap out any increase in the first rotation of the ax whereas pounders is almost certainly multiplicative and it’s going to go up to what 100% damage boost, I forget One percent per attack until it gets to 100% I think is assuming it’s been fixed and it’s not giving 10% in any case they’re not even calculated in the same place or time in the calculation ones multiplicative and ones additive they literally don’t have anything to do with each other

[@billy_cross]

By the way, pounders is not supposed to be giving 10% and that’s going to get patched. You do know that right it’s supposed to be giving one percent on an automatically weapon up to 100%. There’s no one09 in any way shape or form OK by the ninth attack is going to be doing 45% more damage pounders by the ninth attack should be adding 9% damage. And again I feel certain that that is multiplicative 9% by the 100th attack pounders should be adding 100% damage to an auto ax but it’s fogged and it’s actually adding 10% per attack not one percent again that’s gonna be fixed and I don’t know why you guys are worrying about it anyway because you’ve already figured out how to kill this boss and that’s going to be patched too. I think it’s already patched out in the PTS so I wouldn’t be spending your legendary mods making an auto wax with pounders to do this cause it’s not gonna be possible soon.

[@Ryu_R.]

​@@billy_cross ain't reading all that im happy for you tho or sorry that happened

[@billykl2790]

Who cares

[@jessem3143]

I found between Poison and Electric that, while the damage numbers were greater with electric, the kill time with the Poison DOT made up for it where it was almost unmeasurable after a few video comparisons. Because of this, I took Poison so I don't need to use Science perks

[@troydube8168]

This is the way

[@duppex3163]

Poisonous GMod = 6 More Usable Perk Points 🤔

[@LeftysRage]

How so ? I think you meant Electrified.

[@finnaflexofficial]

@@LeftysRageno. Electrified gives you 6 LESS perk points as you have to use all the science cards for no reason and electrified does more damage anyway. I did a video on this on my channel, the poisoners mod always kills it 2 seconds faster with NO perk cards needed

[@IamHomelander]

I have one of each, no science or melee perks, and feel no tangible difference. Doing it solo, he still dies before the room goes black either way. You can make separate PA for different stages but I wouldn’t make a build around- or a weapon for- the first and easiest stage of the raid.

[@finnaflexofficial]

@@IamHomelander this is what I have been saying to people, it makes absolutely no real feeling difference in the game except for using science perks you will waste 6 points in intelligence that could have been put on luck for more chance of ricochet to kick in

[@billy_cross]

You, you are both incorrect electrified and poisonous do exactly the same same damage unless you use the science per cards so if you want to get the most damage out of it, then you want the science for cards and electrified and that’s assuming that the critter that you’re attacking, doesn’t have energy resistbut as far as the weapon goes, they are exactly the same damage unless you have grounded or you use the science perks

[@dustinsutton7777]

Use stranglers heart, vipers and poisoned mod...you will have some bloody fun with the auto axe. If I was a KZbinr I would show you, but I am not.

[@prodjlane]

Miasma too why not lmao

[@michaelmckenzie5477]

Turtle go 1st person for the shield when you see white damage numbers jump up to the middle then change to third person. Aka Flying Turtle

[@Ima184mm]

If the electrified mod is used, then you must also equip science perks.

[@Maruchannnnnnn]

I made a video about a week ago detailing why furious is the GOAT for auto axe. Glad to see it's becoming a more mainstream thing now, hopefully more people will learn now that an actual big creator has made a video on it and more people can start getting even faster raids before next patch!

[@VgAce135]

I'm my testing poisoners did around 2400/ hit. Higher than electrified.

[@finnaflexofficial]

Thank you. People finally paying attention to this. Turtle is wrong on this video. I have the real test on my channel that proves poisoners is better!

[@billy_cross]

I feel certain that any difference in the damage outcome is explained by the fact that you have grounded. As the poison mod and the electrified mod do exactly the same damage. In fact, all three auto axes do exactly the same ballistic damage because they start with the same ballistic damage and they’re reduced by 40% when you put an element onnow the fire mod is not nearly as powerful in instant damage or in the damage as the poison mod, but as far as instant damage goes poison damage and electric damage on that weapon are exactly the same

[@VgAce135]

@billy_cross I don't use the grounded mutation. Could be the different arm mods on the power armor. But regardless, poison is doing 2400 DPS for me which is higher than what he gets in this video.

[@JungleBunnyBob]

I don’t know what to tell you cuz I hit 3200+ with electrified

[@finnaflexofficial]

@@JungleBunnyBob I hit 3300 in poisoners with proof in the video on my channel as I keep saying. Which goes back to my point none of it matters as the game is broken. Stop wasting your perk points for science when you could move it to luck for better chances of ricochet to work

[@xr9790]

I’m working on finishing my Shotgun build and converting it into a melee build, since my main can flip between commando rifleman and heavy guns. So I’m gonna make my shotgun build also be melee to test the ghoul stuff when it’s out but the thought of how that looks in universe is funny you have the “Get off me lawn!” Guy turn into the Tasmanian devil with a chainsaw when they go feral lol

[@JDougyJ]

Vamp+pounders is all you need. Hits for over 2k and can’t be killed while using it.

[@CantThinkOfAHandleSoItsThis]

Why would a healing effect be useful against the guardian when he stops attacking you after the shield is down? Other bosses? Sure, if you're a glass cannon I guess. 🤔🤷‍♂️

[@atgvdvwhi6534]

Turtle, Does damage reduction Benefits (Troubleshooters, OE etc) Reduce the damage of reflection or does it just reflect what you would of taken without any percentages?

[@KinaIchi]

Reflect takes into account the physical projectile, ignoring buffs of everything BESIDES your weapons first star

[@nastyispeak]

@@KinaIchidon’t think it’s just the first star, think it’s every star on your weapons. 50% limb damage definitely does improve damage.

[@AngryTurtle]

those effects are good for reflecting the damage, you need to stop at least 75% off incoming damage to get full reflection damage

[@billy_cross]

The thing about electric turtle is that electric is affected by grounded and grounded is deducting 13% from each element you’re attacking with so instead of just losing 13% of your damage with grounded you’re losing 26% and sure you know those of us that can afford it can just Pop grounded serum but if you don’t electric is doing far less damage 26% less damage than poison and fire is just sad right now on both the auto wax and the chainsaw. I mean the flame mod is not doing a lot of fire damage however I guess in the grand scheme that thing got no resistance to fire so

[@mjasax]

Executioners is better for the robot because the robot regenerates at low health (I think its some sort of nerd rage mechanic, or maybe the projectiles it shoots out are healing it like it has vampires effect or something), but the executioners damage helps to really push through that rubber banding. I can solo the robot in 35 seconds :)

[@billy_cross]

Turtle it doesn’t matter when you die. It’s not a matter of timing other than if you take the shield off and then you die and you don’t reset to go right back in is not gonna work right that’s a well-known glitch that’s been going on since the raid went live, and people were using Ballistic weapons like the LMG to stand around the corner of the pillars and shoot at his arms that no longer have a shield so what did the glitch was as you would take a shield off with have a gun activating a bullet shield and ricochet at happening then you would just die suicide you’ve come back in you use ballistic weapons because they’re easier to keep on point and you shoot at like his extended laser canon one of his arms And you can takeoff his house without taking the shield off again and you can literally kill him because the room will not heat up the timer doesn’t start until the shield goes away. That’s a known glitch that’s been going on since the rate drop at least is probably on PD as well But the way it gets started is by taking his shield off and dying. His shield does not function right after that that’s still I presume a valid way to kill him with all of this autoracks nonsense trying to stand closer on him or whatever because you can do it with Well pretty much every time but mostly people were using LMG‘s red terror comes to mine seems like that be good at it. I did it a couple of times on custom world just to see if it would work, but I’m not the one. I don’t really like the glitch. I’m not saying don’t do it. I just would rather do it the honest waythat’s clearly a glitch. I mean you’re taking a shield off Eiding and coming back in and taking advantage of a shield not working correctly anymore maybe they intended that maybe they didn’t. I don’t know.

[@billy_cross]

Immune to poison that’s why it’s doing more damage but in day-to-day use if you pick a target that doesn’t have poison immunity or more accurately has the same poison resist as it’s electric resist and it’s ballistic resist is gonna not gonna matter cause they both do the same ballistic all the auto waxes do the same ballistic then you’re gonna get exactly the same damage out of it But the robot is supposedly immune to poison check with awareness. It says immunity for poison and radiation energy can’t take the shield down with your electric auto wax. Then that tells you something right the people that are using ballistic only on their auto wax have figured out that he’s immune to poison and that his shield is not really that easy to take off with electric so they use ballistic

[@MattLehman715]

You need to show off the shield method using the sledgehammer. Regular sledgehammer with heavy spiked rocket and crippler as the 2nd star. Using ricochet perk you just stand still holding the sledgehammer and it drops the shield very fast. No ammo spent, just stimpaks to tank the shots. But you gain them back faster than you use them. That a long with the auto axe I can beat the bot in a minute. Edit: Just did solo 46 seconds. Longest solo is just over a minute when it doesn't cooperate and stops shooting me.

[@AlainSiscan]

Thanks Turtle👌i ask few videos ago why furious was better than aristocrats on the auto-axe with pounders. Now I know. Appreciate your in-depth knowledge.

[@billy_cross]

How much damage or weapon shows doesn’t have anything to do with how much actual damage it does what were the damage numbers you were seeing on the boss with poison? Was it half as big as the damaged numbers from the electric auto wax I’m betting it was because againwhen you look at that boss with awareness, he is immune to radiation and poison

[@billy_cross]

Yeah, ironically though they’re going to fix it so you can’t stand on him and he’ll probably at the same time fix pounders so that you’re only getting 100% damaging increase in which case you’ll be lucky to be doing you know a little over 200 damage

[@jeeptangler0043]

I’ve been messing around with unarmed. Inspired by your dragon video, I can get guardians shield down before he rises up by using bear arm

[@AngryTurtle]

bear arm with heavy mod?

[@jeeptangler0043]

@yes, still tuning it, but unyeilding armor with 2**strength, **** bruisers (I think it’s called), bloody heavy bear arm with pounders(not using power attack cause it’s too slow) carnivore with “tasty” foods bonuses, unarmed bobble and that magazine that buffs unarmed/knife damage

[@billykl2790]

Waste of time it's being patched out in March. No more standing up by robot

[@jeeptangler0043]

@@billykl2790 that’s a month and a half away

[@eprofengr6670]

Nice info. Now how to best get all of the materials and also no go over weight. Some of us do not have any Fallout 1st, so just managing the weight and storage is one of the toughest part.

[@theqcgamer]

Without 1rst you would need like 10 mules 😂

[@meerloo.]

Whats the dragon build to do that big chunk of the shield?

[@joaovasco3059]

I knew you would eventually realize the best actual config...mainly for this poor bot...still, the absolutely best thing is, if if you have 2 pounders, have 2 autoaxes exactly the same, but one with electrified and the other without mod. The one without mod destroy the shield before the bot shoots, that position is easy to get after a couple times, slowly point up and its allways a win, than jump to the front little bit to the side and change to the other auto and done. The whole thing its about 30 or 40 seconds, without fail, every time. Its been amazing lol

[@GremlinSciences]

I was about to argue about how it has lower energy defense and the electric mod is technically still more damage, but it actually makes sense that unmodded would be more damage. It isn't splitting the damage after all, so the combined physical damage rips through the DR better than the split damage goes through the individual resistances. Makes me wonder if AA and turbo might be even faster?

[@joaovasco3059]

@GremlinSciences I dont think, cause whats making this so fast and easy is the synergy between pounders and furious, as Turtle kind of explains. I just knew there was something, and it realy is, some multiplicative over multiplicative effect that results in such OP damage

[@billy_cross]

@@GremlinSciences exactly that’s what I’ve been trying to tell people for a while now in many cases in most cases really you don’t want two different kinds of damage. If you’re fighting anything with resist, you want all of your damage in the lowest resist it will be most effective if you do one type of damage against the lowest resist, but since you can’t do that on an auto X, you can only either be ballistic damage or some combination, it could easily be argued. That ballistic damage is the best and the thing is this boss doesn’t have any real resistance. It’s not like a queen the queen has massive resistance ever since they changed them and took away their damage reduction all the bosses the OG bosses all have massive resistance so you want all your damage in one and they’re all the same by the way the boss is mostly have the same exact resist in DR ER cryo- fire and poison and then they’re all immune to radiation so you don’t wanna split your damage between two different elements. If you could get your your auto wax to be all electric or all energy damage that would be awesome because energy is the lowest, but the fact is you would be better off using fire because that boss is not immune fire.

[@GremlinSciences]

@@joaovasco3059 The damage is due to multiplicative stacking, but Turbo costs you 33% damage to _double_ the attack speed. Anti-armor cuts the resistance in half, which would allow a larger portion of the damage through and should mostly cancel out the reduced damage, the doubled attack speed should then be a larger increase to DPS than Furious was. Theoretically, this could be taken to an even further extreme by swapping out a Slugger perk card for Martial Artist to boost the attack rate an additional 30%. I suppose the utility of AA could be argued though if you're running Incisor, you'd already ignore 75% of armor and wouldn't see a significant benefit from AA since those effects stack multiplicatively.

[@a7xogg]

I have only crafted one auto axe in my time playing fallout. It is an executioners +power attack, and +3 strength. Only perfect rol I've ever gotten or crafted

[@billy_cross]

OK, so if you’re making an auto axe just for the guardian EN06 it should be furious/pwr att/dur/pounders. You probably should not mod the autoracks at all to focus all of your damage in DR. Keep in mind this boss is immune to rads cryo-poison. He can’t be staggered or crippled, but he’s not immune to fire and has no resists. Also keep in mind that of the resistance he does have energy is the lowest.

[@SRGGamers]

How do you power attack with an auto axe? I have 25% for standing still

[@atomicf.e.v.1015]

I keep bullet shield on and ricochet and take it's shield out and a little damage to his torso before i switch to my auto axe. Sometimes i have to do it take it's shield down twice but i haven't died in a while and the respawn time does kinda factor into the whole time it takes to defeat en06 because you're not getting any rewards and you have to start at square one. If you're doing it solo it's okay if you gotta go into the blast rooms once

[@atomicf.e.v.1015]

I don't equip heavy gunner tho I keep slugger on and just use my gatling plasma to melt the shield

[@billykl2790]

That all ends in March

[@shawnlee5482]

I get 3800 on 1st boss in raids with executioner auto axe & pounder … only have inscistor equip no buffs And instantly kills sbq 😂 Furious only gets 2,200 Executioner looks to be about 2x more powerful than furious…. Im lost to why people say its better 🤔 Im using electric mod, if that means anything … maybe poison ?

[@luansouza9783]

Why is changing to The Dragon destroys the Guardian Shields here at 8:52 ,is a something about Ricochet?but what is doing that?

[@AngryTurtle]

Fallout 76: Battle Loaders Dragons - The Fastest and Most Fun Way to Destroy EN06 Guardian Shield. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZzconeZqcSGY5I

[@Page001B]

What is that skin for the auto axe?

[@Jules-77]

I think it’s Fanatic. I’ll have to check my melee girl who has it.

[@grogu411]

Just read. It’s clearly says fanatic paint

[@nxtgnmstr1961]

How does Heavy Hitters help when you didn't do any heavy hit. Isn't the heavy hit a power hit? I have: Troubleshooter's Crippling ...Something don't remember Pounder's Poison mod. I did defeat the robot but only once its shield was down. I'd like to take down its shield or bypass it like you do here. I'm just not sure on Heavy Hitter's, when exactly or how does it activate on the auto axe?

[@marksimpson1723]

Any automatic melee weapon is always a heavy hit as far as I understand anyway.

[@nxtgnmstr1961]

@@marksimpson1723 Thanks for the answer. I didn't even know that. I'll go ahead and change it to this recommended build.

[@billy_cross]

No, they’re not turtle troubleshooter for instance, all things being equal changing from troubleshooter to armor and armor did 100 more damage troubleshooters has to overcome a little bit of armor that creature has and because of that it did 100 less damage than the same weapon with anti-arm armor

[@chrishinkley5743]

So this confuses me ... i go solo i use a full melee build no food bonus and v4025ap pounders auto axe ... my initial hit on guardian is around 800 then damage ticks up to 1600 so im not getting 1000% damage increase ...and against any other enemy my damage numbers also only double ....so is the 1000% instant or is it just how the health and dr of the guardian read cause there is no difference anywhere else in the game and no increase to damage beyond 100% on any other enemy in game ... yes my set up still kills guardian just as fast as this video so i dont feel the need to swap from vampires outside the fact that i have a full reflective vulcan set and a full rejuvinators set and in that with how strong rejuvinators is ... all other content i dont really need the vampire effect anymore im still effectively immortal so the 1000% seems to only be a raid thing and it seems to me it is only effecting the raid bosses if its not just a placebo due to how the raids change fusion core drain damage to player and wear on equipment vs outside the raid ... to me the raid isnt really a true test of an effect cause there is some kind of variable put innplace to make the raid feel more deadly when its more likely just bethesda creating a false sense of difficulty by temporarily nerfing our armor and damage inside the raid sbq earle and giant rat are not being damaged at that rate like guardian and last phase of snake fight maybe the numbers we see are not what is actually happening in raids ???

[@AngryTurtle]

to get 800 you need about 1000% bonus damage increasing bonus to 2000% and you have 1600 everything seems correct

[@chrishinkley5743]

@@AngryTurtle ok but the initial 1000% only shows up in the raid everywhere else in game its normal damage then doubled after full stacks applied it feels like this is abraid only "feature" sbq big rat and earle arent having the same effect just the double damage ie... 200dmg vs 100 without pounders

[@AngryTurtle]

@ try it without melee perks and with low strength

[@billy_cross]

Serious is 100% probably the best thing to put on the first star of that for every day use and full health or even a low health build bloodied various. They’re the same thing really you’re on a weapon that’s going to reach maximum damage in one revolution of the blade Furious is great and fast attacking weapons and the reason furious and pounders interact so well is because they’re multiplicative together pounders is multiplicative so when you have a legendary effect of furious adding 45% damage additively with your slugger cards adding 60 you’re talking over 100% damage right there and then when you multiplicatively add another 50% from a pound or I mean 1000% from pounders You can see where the math is going right versus an armor which is adding nothing no damage at all, and that target has very low armor. His highest armor is his ballistic, his damage resist and his cry resistor the two highest and they’re not that high unlike any of the OG bosses that guardian doesn’t have a lot of resistances so furious 100% would be good all by itself but what it’s doing is adding 45% more damage more base damage so that when pounders multiplicatively adds 1000% once you’ve cranked it all the way up which happens very quickly like in a second or two your multiplicatively are hitting 45% higher base damage. That’s why it works well together I mean what’s that thing got like 300 DR even less ER and the same cryo- I think it’s immune to radiation and immune to poison but you’re doing a ballistic and energy. If you’re using an electric ax I wouldn’t. I’d be using one without a mod on it if I were you, but he has very little armor compared to say the scorch be queen, which is probably the lowest armored one of the OJ bosses they kind of get tougher as you go up I mean the newer the boss is the more armor they have right that I know that they were they were progressively more difficult. Earl had more damage reduction than the queen And the ultra one he had the most damage reduction. I assumed the resistance is match at this point in any case furious is always good turtle I don’t know why you would pretend it isn’t on a weapon like an auto ax or a chainsaw or if it would work on the shredder it doesn’t but if it would, those are all very fast attacking weapons when you’re hitting a boss You’re already at maximum and under a second I mean almost immediately you’re getting 45% more damage for full health bills that’s one of the only ways to do that that doesn’t have problems like aristocrats where you gotta keep money to keep the most damage you gotta keep 130 K to be at the highest damage or I see people recommend Gormans in juggernaut, both of which require things of you and your damage drafts when you don’t meet the criteria Versus mutants, which gives you 25% all the time as long as you have five mutations also by the way, a good full health damage buff seems to me like all of your KZbinrs would have your time better spent if you tried to figure out a good way to tell all of us how to do it without using methodologies that are one either glitchy or two going to get patched I’ve been trying hard to find some catch friends since I just realized that even though every document says that thing is immune to cryo-when you look at it with awareness, it’s not immune has the same cry, resist as it as damage resist so freezing it is fastly an option that nobody’s tried because when you look it up on the Internet, it says it’s immune to cryo-but that’s not with the awareness per cart says

[@billy_cross]

Yeah, but that guardian has no resist to fire turtle so that might be the one case when the fire autoracks is actually useful and I’m not sure why your damage is so low. My auto wax damage is much higher than that I don’t have slugger for cards just incisor, and my autoracks damage is like 57 ballistic and I forget what the poison is or or the electricity either one course I do have grounded so I have to take a serum if I want to use electric, but it’s like nearly double the numbers you were just talking about. Do you not have 20 strength?

[@frankblack1014]

Furious is better than anti armor in power armor. Especially on the gatling plasma with stinger core. With 3 point stabilized card you get almost full anti armor plus furious effect. Those that know know and run like this

[@billy_cross]

Unfortunately, though for every day play, you’re going to white either vampires or an armor because all of the bosses have massive armor help just the scavengers at Emmett Mountain have 3200 DR ER and poison and they are immune to radiation

[@imdarizzler]

? No stop doing that seriously disturbing watching do dumb mistakes like that, put vampire on your weapon the auto axe kills to quick and you want it to heal you?

[@eprimchad2576]

​@@imdarizzler you say that like its impossible to get another auto axe or vampires its literally a free stay alive forever weapon with vamps who cares

[@rothanx427]

It just works 😂

[@jacobsommer2830]

I’m curious what type of armor you’re using, because you’re very tanky

[@stevenmcginnis9726]

Does Crippling on the Auto-Axe bring down the shield faster (Like the Dragon video)?

[@stevenmcginnis9726]

I tried a few tests and can't tell if it's helping, but I'm getting real good at hitting him in 3rd person and he's down before he fully gets out of the hole

[@AngryTurtle]

you will not see much difference because power attack bonus is 40% crippling is 50% and only vs shield

[@shawnlee5482]

@@AngryTurtlei get 3,800 using exe axe on that robot, only have inscistor …ur furious barely got 2,200 …i think furious is not better

[@shadowarrows5996]

Hey turtle you need to do a timing run, the damage numbers that it shows when your hitting the guarding a iffy at best, when i ran poisoners it was knocking 5-10 secs off the electrified, and that was with the science perks, TBH i can’t explain why but after 10 hours of running it poisoners did better.

[@AngryTurtle]

I did it on the stream so something else must be affecting poisoners as in my test it was slightly worse than electrified

[@shadowarrows5996]

@@AngryTurtle gotcha, well consistency has never been the games strong point lol.

[@nifftwatkins3135]

Without Pounders, is Executioner's better than AA against the EN06 turret?

[@KevinRay2]

@@nifftwatkins3135 Yes but not when it comes to armored bosses.

[@nifftwatkins3135]

To answer my own question I tried it, custom world. Executioners is much better than AA against EN06. I went from 750 to over 1200 for the last 40% of the turret's health.

[@billy_cross]

Keep saying this, but I don’t think anybody really understands it. Ian 06 has almost no armor what it does have is immunities in several elements but no armor very very little armor unlike a queen or any of the OG bosses which all have massive amounts of armor and are only immune to radiation, but to be fair furious on an auto ask is always going to be better than executioners. Executioners is decent but an auto ax is a really fast attacking weapon. It’s gonna be at max damage for furious almost instantaneously way way before you get something with a lot of hit points below 40%if you’re making.

[@KevinRay2]

@@billy_cross agreed

[@nifftwatkins3135]

In my hands Furious was ok, but no better than AA. The multiplicative bonus of Executioners was far superior. Give it a try on a custom world.

[@aaronheater7583]

I been using auto axe since it released and even then with full health build it out damaged my legacy TSE flamer. And look at it now, lol. With the right bloody build it's basically a modern day legacy for now until it gets nerfed into the dirt because "it just works" slightly better than expected, lol.

[@billy_cross]

No boss immune to poison. I haven’t tried you know comparatively tried poison configured auto ax versus an electric configured one but isn’t that blossom to poison and wouldn’t the poison damage just have no effect I mean the poison damage is half the damage roughly not even counting the poison, which really is immaterial the poison damage itself happening you know many many times a second isn’t that being ignored by the poison immunity on that boss

[@LocustaVampa]

I gave my Pounders mod to my Bloodies character, I hope it does ok lol. Really it's overkill on most enemies.

[@BuenoMcgurski]

Damage numbers cant be trusted. When the raid first came out and I had an AA pounders auto axe I was somehow doing 2700 damage to the guardian. Now I use furious and get like 2-2.2k damage numbers and he dies wayy faster. And sometimes the damage jumps to 3k for no apparent reason. I’m paying attention to all buffs and mutations and perks and everything that could affect damage. I’ve killed him 300 plus times. Sometimes weird stuff just happens is the point, and idk why the numbers are inaccurate but they cant be trusted

[@trippy_ninja3844]

Dose your weapon still do another of damage in the 3 part of the raid? Which one do you prefer?

[@BuenoMcgurski]

@ I just farm the guardian

[@chcheff2000]

3108 damage Up 4222 for a couple seconds F 40S 3S Pounder +no mod base damage 122

[@NorthernChev]

All this is VERY temporary as they're "fixing" Pounders soon AND removing the ability to melee the Guardian. So...

[@z-food]

I’ve seen sneak attack work come out of 10 tries for the shield. It’s a lot of work and really not worth the effort. Without any melee perks or food, furious pounders auto axe destroys it before the warning of “the room warming up.”

[@st3noxx511]

Ive been trying out the auto axe with poison mod and the new 4 star vipers mod wich seems to work realy wel for most stuff thats not poison immune 👌

[@bryang6675]

Is heavy hitters better to have over rapid on this weapon?

[@MrTwax39]

Yes hh is the g roll ether f/hh/3s/p or ex/hh/3s/p

[@bryang6675]

Thanks

[@MrTwax39]

@@bryang6675 hope it helps fam good luck

[@billy_cross]

Auntie armor would not be the winner on that boss only on other bosses that actually have resistances, and that boss raw damage is going to be the winner

[@ScottPeterson-kc9uo]

I thought it got nerfed😅😅😅😅 Furious, heavy hitters, +3 strength, pounders..... Furious was always good , everyone needs to look other than bloodied all the time..

[@wormwoodmain6677]

Great video but ttk? 😂 20 years playing video games and i have never heard that term. Dps is the usual universal term i have heard for damage over a period of time. Time to kill sounds made up haha, it made me chuckle. Always learn something new.

[@AngryTurtle]

Here's Grok so I didn't make it up ;) TTK can refer to several things depending on the context: 1. **Time To Kill** - In video games, particularly first-person shooters, TTK is an acronym for "Time To Kill," which measures how long it takes to kill an enemy or player from full health. 2. **Tcl/Tk Toolkit** - In the realm of programming, TTK stands for "Tile Toolkit," which is an extension of the Tk GUI toolkit for Tcl (Tool Command Language). It provides themed Tk widget set, meaning it supports modern, customizable widgets with a more consistent look across different platforms. 3. **Turkish Airlines** - Sometimes, TTK is used as an abbreviation for "Türk Hava Yolları" (Turkish Airlines) in certain contexts, although "THY" is more common. 4. **Other Uses** - There might be other lesser-known uses or acronyms in specific industries or communities. Without more context about which area you're interested in, it's hard to pinpoint exactly which "TTK" you're referring to. Could you please provide more details or specify the context?

[@wormwoodmain6677]

@AngryTurtle yeah I believe you, it just sounded funny to me. The gaming world is a lot bigger than I thought. Or maybe I need to spend more time in speedrunning communities where I probably would have been exposed to the term.

[@osamabinlaggin3281]

Apparently doing this is an "exploit" on the Fallout 76 server lol some dude got banned just by asking how to solo the robot with the auto axe

[@carenthusiast9255]

Until it gets fixed with an update, and you have to switch the mods up again. Other guy is right. This is very exhausting that unintended things are carrying the fun of the game. Bully's is also working in VATS which isn't intended. I wonder when that will get fixed. They're already about to fix gun fu (I suspect it was always acting as a multiplicitive bonus).

[@billykl2790]

They are already fixing it so you can't stand anywhere near robot. Can't wait til March to see all the crying

[@billy_cross]

No, it isn’t when you get down to doing the math two is not the best time to kill first of all it only kicks in after 60% of the health is gone and even though it’s multiplicative, it is not gonna make up for all the lost time on a boss Ignoring armor is the most damaging way to kill a boss executioners is not adding to your armor. ignore it, subtracting from it by replacing anti-armor in the old days when the queen didn’t have any armor to speak of like 275 in each then excuses would be really good against her if it were not for her damage Reduction Furious even when it’s additive because it is an additive legendary effect don’t mistake it. It’s not a multiplicative one it’s additive the only multiplicative legendary effect on the first star left after all the changes was executioners probably because executioners is already a little gimp by the fact that it doesn’t kick in till below half the health bar I didn’t give you added up all the damage. It takes to kill a queen and did it with executioners and then did it with an armor you’d find an armor still king? Well, not still is more appropriate today than it ever was before really because now they have massive armor.

[@jaidencoolidge105]

Where do I find the Pounders mod

[@michaelclarke6153]

Drops from the raid on a very low chance. I only just got one after about 100 attempts.

[@jaidencoolidge105]

Thanks for telling me

[@lullabyformoonlight3138]

Why does equiping dragon do more damage

[@AngryTurtle]

Fallout 76: Battle Loaders Dragons - The Fastest and Most Fun Way to Destroy EN06 Guardian Shield. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZzconeZqcSGY5I

[@Dem3ntia-Gaming]

I was in your stream “Blackmanwithmilk” I explained why furious is better than anti-armor as Incisor already makes it max anti-armor which is 75%. And that furious makes it 45%x1000%. Poison is only good for the Epsilon squad and snake, but I don't use furious, I use bloodied since it might be multiplicative and does show better results when killing the snake against AA40+3 Electric and Poisoners Auto Axe, and F40+3 No mod, poisoners, and electric. So bloodied did more damage than all of these when below 50-40% hp(all of them have pounders.) So in summary use 2 auto axes specified for the raid, 1st auto axe is no mod, F40+3 Pounders, my testing shows that electrified does no difference as it doesn't matter even with science cards and if you don't have enough perks this would be perfect also. 2nd one is used in all of the raids after En06, which is Bloodied 40+3 Pounders poisoners auto axe. Just for the epsilon squad make sure your health is at 50-55% Hp since bloodhound or the person with the chainsaw doesn't one-shot you. The crystal part with ultragenetic, use a Quad faster fire rate laser rifle with a beam splitter.

[@dylafym]

You're called WHAT on stream??

[@XxPolloV1412xX]

Thought science perks dont work on heavy weapons.. Auto axe is a heavy weapon no?

[@shaunphares8995]

It’s not 1000 percent damage, they give weapon damage buff for all weapons in raid.

[@billy_cross]

Executioners would not be the best time to kill not even close. It’s a 50% boost after the critter has lost 60% of its health versus a 45% boost nearly the entire time you’re attacking of course furious is going to kill quicker than executioners on any boss or anything with high health. Executioners only shines when you’re doing massive damage in a single hit and you’re killing in just several hits.

[@The-Spanish-Inquisition490]

Everyone: lets farm ED-09 with the Auto Axe cheese. Bethesda: hmmm 🤔 instead of fixing the cheese.... 💡we should nerf Auto Axe again!!!

[@billykl2790]

That is being fixed in next patch but hopefully they nerf all things bloodied and the auto axe also

[@JamesWhite-m6n]

Is the auto axe better than the duel flaming chainsaw,

[@GenDrake3]

Has been for a few months since chainsaw was nerfed

[@billy_cross]

Guarantee electrified is not the best mod he actually has energy resistances. He has no fire resistance.

[@OGtheGodzilla]

they should fix the bug that gives error code every single hour of playing

[@kyrieclutchirving3348]

Solo the bot with this in about 40 seconds

[@maximage3091]

Their art department is getting lazier and lazier, a giant robot just 'emerges' through the lid, as if the metal lid of the well is made of whip cream ☕

[@billy_cross]

Turtle EN06 isn’t really a boss. Bosses are denoted by extremely high resistances and radiation immunity. So testing anything on the EN06 is only gonna result in knowing what’s good for the EN06.

[@WinterdeathDak]

It’s more of a mini boss and the snake is the boss of the raid they are all just mini bosses but calling them bosses is just easier

[@thereal1650]

Correct mini boss they did fix the bots damage resistance. Big difference now than when the raid first came out

[@Bravilor]

I have done the turret boss maybe 150 times. Once, and only once, did the stars align in a very weird way, which made it so that when I shot him with my vampire minigun to heal myself, while his shield was functional, there were GOLD DAMAGE NUMBERS bouncing from him (which were higher than 0). I did damage to his main body, while his shield was up. Edit: Could that have been thanks to dying at the same time as the turret on the previous attempt?

[@AngryTurtle]

yes

[@kurthimmen4578]

Nice! What PA skin is that?

[@AngryTurtle]

raid runner

[@Karvoc]

There are no bugs its just a feature you have yet to understand.

[@zxmrmayhemxz8191]

I dont know for sure, but my theory is the devs have to had increase the chances for content creators to learn mod box plans after scrapping a legendary weapon. Because since the uodate I've only learned 10 and they're all shit with the exception of instigating. But im just baffled by how many youve learned and have unlocked in such a short amount of time. While I still get nothing after scrapping 100s of legendary weapons.

[@billy_cross]

I’m sorry I don’t I don’t believe you that so what you’re saying is is that when you have pounders and furious on the weapon together becomes a multiplicative boost instead of an additive boost I mean, if that’s true that’s incredible but that’s I don’t think that’s intended like all other boost was changed to additive a long time ago And I’m not sure how you’d be verifying that in any case I mean, you can verify if it’s additive or multiplicative pretty easy but not in the entirety of all that calculation, it would be difficult not saying it’s impossible but how do you know it? That’s what I’m asking. How do you know that it’s becoming multiplicative I mean you do understand that pounders is multiplicative all the time so as Pinpointer so is I’m pretty sure they’re all multiplicative all the four star damage boost. I think they’re all multiplicative I put vipers on my mini gun shredder and now without any perk cards giving it damage other than bloody mass which it always had. It feels like I have three fully maxed out heavy gun cards when I shoot that gun, which tells me that viper is multiplicative not additive because if it was additive, it would feel like almost as good as three max don’t have gotten cards but now it feels better. I think they’re all multiplicative all the four star damage boost or multiplicative. I believe I’m not sure that but some of them don’t have that kind of affect like fracture fractures I think it adds a flat 50 but things like pyromaniac and viper and pin pointers and N and pounders and andwhat’s the one that adds 60% up to 60% polished I have a feeling those are all multiplicative

[@williamnelson9898]

i dont know maybe the xbox servers maybe different my bloodied still out powers my AA and vampire all stats are the same for 2 and 3 star none have pounders and i always get around 1k DPS for like 5 seconds then a steep fall off i am a bloodied build

[@Sabahes_ASMR]

But how does furious compare to say 65% bloodied?

[@KingDusk278]

It’s Furious is bugged. No point in doing a video about a bugged legendary perk when it’ll eventually get patch.

[@bw1532]

Has Bethesda said this was unintended? Perhaps for a few months they could allow the players to actually discover something that does not immediately get removed. High level players that grind hard should be able to beat the games content....

[@ThatBugBehindYou]

@KingDusk278 my brother, it's Bethesda, they couldn't even fix the Christmas scorched, eventually could be a year.

[@KingDusk278]

@ you definitely don’t need furious auto axe to beat content. There’s multiple alternatives that works just fine.

[@OGtheGodzilla]

can someone help me put the upgrades to my Gatling Plasma i dont have any of the plans unfortunately

[@ajf4693]

The watoga bot vendors have the mods(stinging core, accelerated nozzle) but it’s low rate. Took me hours to fully mod 2 of them for vampires and bloody with 50%crit and 25% vats

[@Jeeper906]

Im confused. I keep seeing different videos on what is best. Each person has video "proof" of why each is best. Now angry turtle says electrified is best. Just a few days ago another guy (finna flex) says poisoners is best. Idk who is right about this.

[@KevinRay2]

2219-2250 are the same numbers I get when I solo the boss and when I'm on a team I get over 3,000 and that is with anti-armor. There is no difference between aa and furious.

[@COLDFIRE_0284]

I can’t believe I was two weeks ahead of turtle on something! 🎉😂

[@billy_cross]

Again executioners doesn’t even enter into it on a boss with a large health bar. It’s not even in running against an armor for heavily armored bosses or something like furious or junkies or yes aristocrats if you never spend any money even additive 50% is going to be better than Executioners that doesn’t kick in until 40% and only for this boss on every other boss you want anti-armor and for regular critters it doesn’t matter vampire power attack damage on your ax is just fine for every day use until you get to a boss

[@TwoThuggaTune]

thanks for the next patch turtle....

[@shawnlee5482]

Angry *Patch* Turtle should be his nickname 😂

[@imdarizzler]

I already knew furious was the best with my testing, im nee tested everyday all day and i found the best auto axe and now turtle using my build wtf is going on?!?!😂 my axe can do 6k+

[@chester__83]

nice to know. but I'll stick to Vampires. I don't farm the bot, I use the auto axe every now and then but mainly for resilient mutated Op or events. so V40p90rw it is, with pounders the damage went up a lot anyways.

[@billy_cross]

Wrong again you’re talking about executioners in general, but you’re talking about doing a boss with a lot of hip points. Executioners is never the choice for a boss that has a lot of hip points. You’re going to be attacking it for quite a long time to get it below that 40% threshold, then executioners is a ridiculously stupid choice And again I can’t stress this enough whether it’s multiplicative or additive it’s still adding 45% multiplicatively it’s going to add 45% to the sum assuming you’re correct and it’s changing it to a multiplicative value but if it’s additive, you’re going to have 60% from your slugger cards 45% from furious 15% from bloody mass 10% from tenderizer all of that is going to be added together and then your face damage is going to be multiplied by one point whatever that is the only difference would be take away the 45% from that first bit of math and now multiply the number you got from that by 1.45. It’s literally only going to marginally be higher and it’s not a matter of it being real 45 or whatever you said it’s always 45%. The reason that your numbers are so high is because you’re getting 1045% dam increase from pounders and furious and you’re probably not using any other boost except maybe bloody mess and tenderizer I’m betting you don’t have slugger cards that’s 60% right there either way on that boss under any circumstance furious is the way to go with the first star unless you’re bloody of course if you’re doing that first boss bloody then you wanna bloody autoracks if you’re not bloody if you’re full health, then you want furious power attack +3 strength or durability if you don’t like fixing your act all the time and pounders but for any other boss you want antiarmor even if you’re bloodied

[@not-somiraculousjunkietige3798]

thank you for these videos they are very helpful and very appreciated

[@JACKALz]

Mistake, with electrified mod and pounders, my numbers were 1419, without electrified mod it was 1300 on the robot.

[@ashwilliams7964]

Aristocrat's is better than anti armor

[@GenkiTheEthical]

Every day a new video so people waste their time and resources obtaining box mods to follow like lemmings. Remember, everything is doing 1000% more damage including a broken stick because some guy with 2nd hand data says so. /eyeroll Aristocrats still does more damage than Furious on that boss with stacked buffs.

[@billy_cross]

No turtle it’s normally 45% damaging increase additive damage isn’t less because it’s additive multiplicative damage is more because it’s multiplicative but it also depends on how much additive damage you have right if you’re not adding, let’s say you’re one of those people running an auto ax with no slugger cards Pounders is not nearly as effective when it’s 1000% more multiplicative damage when all you have is the base damage of the weapon but when you additively put 60% for sluggers and 15% for bloody mass and 45% for furious you’re now talking about 120% more base damage pounders is going to make that 1000 times more whatever that number is so if you’re additive damage is 200% higher and you have 100 damage you’re gonna end up with 300 damage times 1000% instead of 100 damage times 1000% do you see why it’s important to not inform people that additive damage sucks it’s not important. It is important. You’re multiplicative damage is calculated after your additive damage based on that some That’s why additive damage is so high 45% is almost as high as it gets whether it’s aristocrats or bloodied or or or executioners once you get to 40% of the health or junkies the 45% doesn’t depend on shit and it takes your auto wax under a second to reach thatand the reason this interaction is so good is because it’s adding 45% more damage before pounders calculates, its gigantic multiplicative damage the more you add on additively the better that multiplicative number is going to be think of that

[@MultiMarcoco]

Aristocrats gives me +50 % dmg (so they say). Isnt that better than Furious ? I always walk with 40K b/c there is nothing worth to buy ...

[@Hopalongtom]

If it worked correctly yes, but furious is bugged right now.

[@MultiMarcoco]

@@Hopalongtom What do you mean, is it better than aristocrates ?

[@Hopalongtom]

@@MultiMarcoco temporarily until they fix it yes.

[@MultiMarcoco]

@@Hopalongtom Oke thanks. I have Furious and Aristocrats and try it. Not a tester ... Thanks again.

[@bhenrichs30]

Bloodied is the best

[@JoeyIsGaming]

so youre telling me i should start selling furious mods mhm

[@MrDterryberry]

Good stuff

[@atomicfiend9956]

Guh

[@enchanted7076]

i kept freaking telling you and you kept ignoring me ... well played angryturtle