Fallout Antagonist Tier List

[@veraxiana9993]

Biggest antagonist in New Vegas: Invisible Walls

[@ReapeeRon]

Very true

[@bravalloy]

Plus Fallout 3, 4 and Skyrim. Never forget that arrows that hit the thin air and land on your feet.

[@claymore295]

That and the game crashing😂

[@veraxiana9993]

@claymore295 in the words of Ted Peterson "it's not a bug it's a feature" 😂

[@katoka143]

My arch enemy is a Dead Money Bear Trap

[@DirtyDev]

Mobius is a godamn hero in this household.

[@davidhong1934]

Mobius? Don't you mean MOBIUS?

[@crackersphdinwumbology2831]

Mobius was a genuinely good guy who discovered his friends were awful, awful people--but lacked the heart to hurt them. He's still the antagonist of OWB tho

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

Exactly

[@JuanGarcia-gy8vl]

I love DR. MOBIUS and his addiction to tasty and refreshing Mentats. *Nom nom nom*

[@mappingshaman5280]

He was gay, dr mobius?

[@Hollyclown]

I love how much they hyped Kellog just for a quick fight and an on rails mission. They had so much potential when he took over Valentine for a moment.

[@shorewall]

That is a REAL what if moment. Hell, I'm amazed that in all the DLC, and now with Creation Club content, no one has touched that.

[@davidhong1934]

I like to imagine that Kellog and Nick worked out a living arrangement in one of the following formats: - V and Johnny Silverhand (Cyberpunk 2077) - Piccolo and Nail (Dragon Ball Z - Abridged)

[@anhluuviet5793]

Frank doesnt have a minigun, he has the "End boss plasma cannon".

[@bruhgod123]

Is that actually what its called?

[@anhluuviet5793]

@@bruhgod123 i cant remember if it's a plasma cannon or rifle but the end boss part is true.

[@ReapeeRon]

That is true, I was getting it mixed up with an early scene where they are gunning down muties as he says.

[@anhluuviet5793]

@@ReapeeRon that was a unskippable cutscene where 2 enclave soldiers used their miniguns to gun down a family of someone who supposedly had some ties with them. That said, i still appreciated this video a lot, thank you.

[@Khrazilkree]

@@anhluuviet5793 it's End Boss Plasma Gun

[@TommyLaoGanMa]

With Kimball I think it's important to take into consideration how other characters talk about him. Yeah he's only physically in the game for one scene but also pretty much everyone who has met him agrees that he's a terrible leader, corrupt and incompetent, he plays favorites with people like Oliver who are also described as incompetent throughout the game, he sends troops in complete bogus unwinnable missions, wasting time and resources and getting regular troops killed for no real reason. It seems like one of the main reasons why the NCR is in such a terrible state is bc Kimball just sucks as president which I think is interesting and goes unnoticed by the average player.

[@ianmason96]

And the most damning thing about him is that Caesar LIKES him

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

​@@ianmason96Caesar has a brain tumor

[@davidhong1934]

@@ianmason96 Cassar has less intelligence than Snuffles the Mole Rat

[@gam3ro90]

yeah you are right and this is noticable near the end of the fallout tv series when they tell you about the end of shady sands

[@mareklukas9726]

If only he sucked at hid job. He is quiet competent and calculated, He knows hes dragging the nation down he just wants fame and fortune for himself

[@chilarius]

The fact that you forget Lou-tenant, and that is in F1, not 2, dissapoint me and i will put you in the FEV tank.

[@ReapeeRon]

Hope I turn out like Marcus for Fawkes.

[@BeefSupreme641]

Nope, you get Mean Sonofabitch

[@Ruby_Eve]

Just goes to show how forgettable he was

[@chilarius]

@@Ruby_Eve Simply you got bad memory

[@__TK___]

@@Ruby_Eve or you are like me and haven’t gotten to that part of the game at all because you don’t explore enough

[@Six_iffinder]

18:21 they’re automatically ultimate villains in my book for creating the cazador

[@The_CoomSlayer]

When you take Kellogg's past into consideration, he could have been a great character, but he just ends up being wasted as a common thug.

[@ReapeeRon]

I agree, he is setup well but not payed off the best.

[@peytongonavy]

Who tf "Mercer"? U mean Werner.

[@KrayerInkghast2219]

Frank Horrigan easily clears, he’s truely a badass villain.

[@michaellemmons4759]

it's MICHAEL F*CKING DORN ffs. Of course he's badass!

[@Sarahsqueak]

Horrigan is cool, but hes not as prevalent as a lot of the other ones, you only really see him at the end of the game.

[@nickcooper7959]

Wouldn’t say he clears. The master is super cool and very close

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

​@@Sarahsqueakthere's a random encounter you'll likely find, one where Horrigan and his guards kill an Ex-Enclave member and then tells you to gtfo

[@Sarahsqueak]

@@AzumarillConGafasBv Yeah, but that happens later in the game, the closer you get to navarro that stuff happens.

[@conorosullivan3546]

Dr Braun imo should have been higher due to just how sadistic they were as they literally tortured the vault residents for 2 centuries whilst also being significantly in the design of the other vault experiments meaning that the the amount of suffering caused by that one man is staggering.

[@Rj-pw7zs]

Old World Blues is easily the best dlc in Fallout. Mobius and the Think Tank are such fantastic characters.

[@gabrielespindola4461]

The fact that the worst new Vegas DLC, story wise, is honest hearts wich still on par with Far Harbor and the pit shows How much Betesda droped the ball with the series.

[@michabaron4129]

To each his own and i'm not looking for smoke - its funny how different people are because OWB is the worst DLC for me by far. Walls upon walls of dialogue that's not as funny as it thinks it's being (and it leaves very little space for meaningful player input), poorly balanced combat and most quests being hollow chores

[@CopeSeethorntin]

I loved the Dialogue and jokes and story wise OWB is the best by far right next to honest hearts. But game play and quest wise it kind of sucks as it's basically and endless fetch quest that just never ends. No unique plot points to go off game play wise and honestly my final confrontation with Mobuis was basicly a 30 minute boss fight with a robotic bullet sponge that throws cancer at you. Not to mention your chances of getting jumped with almost no safe zones that isn't just the big dome are effectively 90 percent guaranteed and all in all it just becomes an endless drain. Don't get it twisted story and dialogue wise I loved it, but as as DLC game play wise I absolutely despised the quest due to how auxusting it all was as the only meaningfully plot progression that actually links up with the game play is in the begining and in the end. Everything in the middle is just straight filler with the only part that put a smile on my face is when I got to speak to the think tank or when they are present. As doctor borouse beefing with his highschool bully who's been dead for 200 years and declaring himself the God king principle of his entire highschool school, and any one who calls him out on his insecure fatherless antics as communist unpatriots. Will never not be funny and it will forever be the biggest high lite of my entire new Vegas playthrough🤣

[@Rj-pw7zs]

@michabaron4129 perfectly fair. Not everyone is going to enjoy the same things.

[@Videodrome1991]

I think I like the Legate Lanius and the Legion because it's basically "What if Cormac McCarthy made a Fallout fraction?" While the lore is incomplete due to time constraints, what is there is very interesting and grim. The premise of conquering a violent wasteland through violence is an interesting one.

[@kaizenregimen]

While I would want more Legion content, I'm pretty sure Lanius being as mysterious as he is was intentional

[@benitolopezespinosa5991]

So about Colonel Atumn... you CAN'T actually side with him (unless you want to get randomly shot by him because "evil guy" i guess), you can only side with John Henry Eden, wich in my opinion is BS, Autumn has one of the most interesting perspectives and could have make the Enclave an actually good written faction, instead of the boring generic villains they are. He makes a coup against the plans of the president, who followed Richardson's "program", to instead get the wastelands on his side, it would have been amazing to see a "New Enclave" return to be a joinable faction under the premisse of "we are no longer this guys, we are going to be ruthless in our aproach and leave morality aside when needed, but in exchange we are going to preserve life as a concept" Also there is something poetic about the fact that Autumn's followers are the human Enclave soldiers and Eden's are machines, i mean... it seems almost simbolic that the Enclave will turn to be a more humane faction, leaving behind Eden's and Richardson's cold (and cliché) ideas, so they make you question if the guys responsible for that apocalypse might be the only ones able to fix it, leaving room for more complex flaws for the player to meditate about like "does the end justify the means"? Or "how much are we willing to sacrifice to get a solution?" "Would it even be worth it" You know... treat your audience a little bit more like adults and dont hold their hands telling them who is right or wrong/good or bad.. IDK the waste of potential always bothered me with this franchise, is like they are one mf step away for being near perfect haha. Just something i always wanted to get off my chest.

[@shorewall]

Autumn is a generic bad guy. He kills that assistant for no reason, he kills you if you help him. It actually feels out of character for him to oppose Eden's plan. I think it would have made more sense for Eden to actually be a good and humane president, even though he is a computer. And Autumn is the genocidal maniac, even though he is human. And since he is boots on the ground, Eden can't stop him until you show up.

[@benitolopezespinosa5991]

@@shorewall Exactly, i think is a missed oportunity to rewrite a horribly written faction, though i never thought about the point you presented, "the people to blame for all of this are more heartles, cold and less human than actual machines" that could also work wonders to take the faction into a less generic direction, like they did with the BOS, splitting them into Lyons resonable and joinable brotherhood and the dogamtic, aimless "technofetishists" Outcasts. Also... cant the guy be talked down the boss fight by making him question his loyalty to the very same organization he is already revolting against? "You're right lone wanderer, the president im currently couping against isnt someone to trust as a president, im going to try to purify some water so i dont run out inocents to shoot, deuces" Lol, so lazy.

[@windwalker5765]

Frank Horrigan's voice actor is Michael Dorn, best known as Lt. Worf on Star Trek: TNG and DS9

[@ReapeeRon]

That makes sense, Thanks!

[@Dr.Beam_likes_Fallout]

Who also plays marcus

[@tflp1950]

Holy shit I never realised this. Its so obvious now that you say

[@silverjohn6037]

One character that should go on the list, simply because he is the one character that Fallout New Vegas fans most enjoy killing, is Vulpes Inculta, the legion scout who orchestrates the massacre at Nipton. Psychopathic personality coupled with the creepiest voice in the game. And considering this is a game with cannibals in tuxedoes that's saying something.

[@shorewall]

I think he definitely makes a psycho first impression, but when you meet the rest of the Legion, he makes sense. He is a spy who is sowing terror behind enemy lines. I don't even know if he believes his own justifications, since he is supposed to do dirty and malicious acts to demoralize enemy populations.

[@mappingshaman5280]

Lmao no, new vegas fans enjoy killing oliver swanick and malcolm himmes far more than vulpes.

[@dumpanimator]

What i can say yeah

[@johanbjorkman1914]

@@silverjohn6037 Vulpes 🥰

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

​@@mappingshaman5280 debatable

[@shadedergu9921]

Frank Horrigan is actually a Behemoth He is 12 Feet Tall, the Size of a Behemoth *Which makes it all the more insane that you get locked in a room with him.*

[@heirkaiba]

The Lieutenant is from Fallout 1 he’s more memorable because of his speech

[@anhluuviet5793]

Lou is in fallout 1, he's in the mariposa millitary base which is filled wth super mutants, not Enclave soldiers, you got that and Navaro mixed up.

[@manny7289]

Can';t believe you remember the Leiutenant from fallout 1

[@sniper-fd5ug]

But we know about Caesar? That he’s from the followers of the apocalypse and how he became the way he was?

[@rajorajo7429]

Wasn't expecting The Roach King to be your top rated villain, but I respect it. Good list.

[@jameskaravites9359]

Just a couple of notes I got from this ranking: 7/12 of the top two Tiers are from Fallout new Vegas Only 3/12 in those tiers are from fallout 3 and fallout 4 combined, and they are ALL from DLC I know this list isn’t an objective ranking of quality, nor was it fully intended to be, but it’s really hard for me to imagine a list with the complete opposite takes (ie, 3 and 4 dominating the top tiers) because their writing is just simply a lot less layered and memorable across the board. The only exceptions that I even hear my own friends bring up at the dlc characters

[@natelavallee4034]

Get a life

[@ijneb1248]

@@jameskaravites9359 bethesda just has a different approach to fallout than obsidian does, they prefer to tell a wider story set in the scope of a smaller one while obsidian focuses on the narrative thats tied to the game itself

[@jameskaravites9359]

@@ijneb1248 I see what you’re saying, but I don’t think they did it particularly well. I still enjoy fallout 3 a lot for instance, but I don’t give a shit about the characters and I think they could have managed both

[@jameskaravites9359]

@@natelavallee4034 *kicking and screaming* 😭 I won’t I won’t!

[@benjimotsi4732]

31:37 I’ve had the same idea but with the BoS and Minutemen teaming up. Both of them want to destroy the institute, both aren’t super fond of synths (besides Nick Valentine) and both could’ve helped each other with securing the commonwealth

[@fritzman6483]

Frank is easily the ultimate villain because you get shown how horrific he is from executing civilians to crushing deathclaws and murdering a man in power armor after feeling nothing from being hit with a energy weapon

[@nicholasvandonkersgoed3758]

Father Elijah the Goat. Also Mobius is a hero.

[@bigiron1182]

We all know the real biggest antagonist in Fallout history is the toaster. Only the toaster could be as despicable to want the world to burn in nuclear fire AGAIN! Even after he's gone, he's still the winner because one day the sink will have bread and no way to toast it.

[@1yu8omir]

The toaster was funny xD

[@FatherGiraffeKaku]

Frank is literally as close to a behemoth as a super mutant can get without being a behemoth with a full suit of power armor and the intelligence of a military trained soldier, he has a Gatling gun on one arm and he has max special stats in a game where your special stats matter far more than in the modern fps games, he’s literally neg-diffed a deathclaw with his bare hands. He’s probably the most powerful character in all of fallout besides the playable characters.

[@pseudonymgaming3541]

The Think Tank is what the Institute should have been. Change my mind.

[@ReapeeRon]

I agree, that would have made them better.

[@MrGhosta5]

If you join the railroad or brotherhood and then complete the minutemen route the leaders will congratulate you on taking down the institute by yourself.

[@ReapeeRon]

That's pretty awesome!

[@michaellemmons4759]

Sadly, I gotta agree on Desdemona and the Railroad. The meta is join the Railroad, get the best gun, get the armor weave, beat the game with a better faction (for me, usually the Minutemen).

[@CelibateSaihara]

For me it's the Brotherhood. The Sentinel's Plasma Caster is actually broken.

[@FuntimeByzantium]

what is this gun exactly? i haven't played f4 in ages

[@bruhgod123]

@@FuntimeByzantium Deliverer pistol.

[@michaellemmons4759]

@@FuntimeByzantium Deliverer.

[@bluejayblaze6887]

I recently got back into New Vegas and have been as a result watching many of your videos on it again. Its good to be back :)

[@ZandorClegane]

If master isn't S I'll cry

[@ReapeeRon]

No need to cry.

[@Ethonra]

I am disappointed in how Shaun was handled as I feel if he was used better, he could have been an interesting villain. But from his Institute name to his decisions, he is a failure. So much potential lost...That said, I never get tired of people talking about him. It is always amusing and informative. Also, just to clarify, I know why he is called "Father", just it is handled so clunkily, I feel him just being Shaun or Leader Shaun or whatever, but all Institute-aligned Gen 3 Synths calling him Father would have caused greater intrigue. You'd then find out through charisma checks and/or terminals on why and the reason is genuinely fascinating. But for "Father" to be treated as his name in general is just silly. Then there's his condition. Given the multiple ways the Institute could have saved his life, yet he tries nothing, makes it feel like he wants to perish. If so, fine, but why not at least have Nate or Nora point this out (or Synth Curie) and Shaun shoots down the reasons? The fact everyone just accepts it, no questions asked, is immersion breaking for me. Given the Institute's vast knowledge, highly advanced technology, and immense web of intelligence gathering, there is no way they wouldn't have several ways to preserve Shaun. But like I said, wasted potential. But if you think that is bad, don't even get me started on how bad the waste is for Nick Kellogg.

[@kotzpenner]

Imagine if they put him into a synth body (the technology exists) that would be cool. But the plot needs him to die unfortunately.

[@Ethonra]

@@kotzpenner Does he, though? I alluded to it but didn't outright say it, but yes, Shuan could have been transfered to a young Synth body. Or a full robot (like Kellogg). Note that obviously these ideas are for a different Shaun, hence rewritting. I even thought that (in a rewritten scenario) once you fully side with the Institute, with his new body, Shuan would become a companion (then it doesn't matter who leads the Institute). While he obviously wouldn't go around telling people he's the Boogeyman of the Commonwealth, his commentary on people, places, and situations would have been nice to experience. Also, he'd obviously not romanceable, so no perk for sleeping. Instead, to make up for that and given his powerful new body, being a companion you must side fully with, and basically at the end of the game, and being YOUR son (Nate/Nore are built different), I'd like to believe his companion perk would have been quite strong. Moreover, given the Institute's stance on Synths, imagine the story ramifications. Would Shaun, prior to stepping down, make it so Synths are treated better or just himself? Would he have it done in secret? What happens if others find out? Would he use tech from the Memory Den to rewrite people's memeories so they forget his appearance, but not his name and rank, then create false memories of his new body? Would he simply "retire" any staff that knew about his true body and just refresh the ranks with Synths? So many options. As for him having to die, I wouldn't if I rewrote the story. If the story is A, B, C, D and there's a problem with C (Shuan must die), I'll simply rewrite A, B, C, and D. Again, even a brain in a jar would suffice. But even then, if his illness is destroying his brain, he could just have his mind digitized. But let's say no matter what, no matter how we rewrite the story, Shaun has to die. Not because he is terminal, but because he WANTS to. Shaun choosing to do nothing to save himself could have even been very interesting, maybe even emotional, if he actually gave reasons why he chose the big sleep. Maybe it could have been his hollow existence as an Institue experiment and always wondering about the life he could have had, but never will and was simply sleepwalking through his "life" until you arrived. And while he could have saved himself, he elected not to because of reasons X, Y, and Z. True, one of his other parents perishes, but he still has the one. Even that wasn't enough to get him to try to live. We just get nothing. This is what I meant by Shaun is such an interesting character to talk about, but not an interesting character himself.

[@mappingshaman5280]

Most fans favourite is frank but mine is the master. He's very intimidating and he has the strongest motives for why he acts the way he does. Frank never gives any motives. And don't even get me started on the jokesters that make up bethesda antagonists

[@MJ-mk8jg]

Perfect timing, many thanks

[@ReapeeRon]

Very welcome!

[@skeletonnoise6178]

Fun Fact about Frank Horrigan, he shares the same VA as battle beast from invincible

[@ReapeeRon]

Yeah, he also is the guy who played Worf in Startrek. He has an awesome voice!

[@PeterGriffin-rp9iq]

Lou Tennant is from fallout 1. Basically the Master’s right hand mutant

[@michaellemmons4759]

"Just murder, murder, murder everywhere" Yeah, that's Pittsburg.

[@Thagomizer]

I would rank Morpheus as average, as he's quite intimidating to talk to. I love David Warner's voice. And the Master's Lieutenant I would rank as a formidable foe, as he's a real bitch to fight, and he'll torture you mercilessly should you turn yourself in, which brings us one of the most horrifying downer endings in the entire series.

[@richardjones9513]

The Brotherhood has a pretty major role in Fallout 1 imo, as they teach the Vault Dweller that female supermutants are infertile. I believe they also mark the location of the supermutant base. Also where's Gizmo :( shoutout Jim Cummings

[@filipemello6146]

In fact Kellogg is the most interesting Institute character. Interesting and kinda justifiable back story, makes you still feel angry, but knowing it really was not personal.

[@BernatDukat]

Thank you for placing Elijah where he belong. Soo many people sleeps on that character while he so well written and undeniable EVIL.

[@OttoOctavius77]

The best villain is obviously Oliver swanwick

[@alexharvey7660]

The Lieutenant from Fallout 1 is a sick villain imo, I find the concept of an intelligent super mutant interesting, and his voice acting is really great.

[@shaunholt]

Father as the greatest Fallout antagonist. Bold pick.

[@shorewall]

I think Fallout 3's Enclave works better if Eden and Autumn switch roles. Autumn is a vicious attack dog, killing that assistant at the water purifier at a moment's notice, and killing you if you try to work with him. Whereas Eden is programed with all the positive traits of America's greatest presidents. Eden even tries to help you escape, while Autumn tries to kill you. So it comes out of no where when Eden asks you to poison the water supply, and Autumn doesn't want to. Eden is a wise computer, and Autumn is just dumb muscle. I think it makes more sense if Autumn is the one who wants to do what the Enclave tried to do before, and wipe out all mutants. Whereas Eden, though he is a machine, is more humane and asks you to stop him, since Eden can't control him anymore. And the battle for the Purifier is to stop Autumn's plan, instead of for no reason. And it could justify why you need to overload the purifier and put someone in danger, to destroy the virus, instead of just because plot.

[@ieuannightingale4380]

@3:55 Mercer? I remember his name as wernher?

[@evan_ception]

It is. He got the name wrong.

[@Hatsworthful]

Lou Tenant was interesing moreso as a threatenign presence than a villain, really. Like a look at the 'peak' of super mutant power (until frank horrigan appeared, of course). The master still remains the highlight of fo1's antagonists.

[@AesirUnlimited]

Frank Horrigan’s goals: “Kill all Muties.” Father’s goals: “You wouldn’t understand.”

[@randomdude2546]

Lets go tier list man! I dont like tier list videos but for some reason I watch all of your new vegas tierlists lol

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

Mobius is the fuckint GOAT of Old World Blues, definitively my all time favorite Fallout character

[@emerald6489]

Lou Tenant is from Fallout 1, not 2. Asides from that good video

[@TommyLaoGanMa]

Justice for the Lieutenant! Easily the smartest super mutant in the series and very intimidating in how cruel he is for seemingly no reason other than his own enjoyment.

[@silverjohn6037]

Indeed. You meet him if you get captured by the super mutants in the Necropolis or if you fully explore the Mariposa Military Base. I believe he's unique for villains the Fallout series as I don't recall there being any speech option when you meet. You either surrender to him, in which case you immediately get the bad ending to the game, or fighting him.

[@natesalisbury2196]

did you say "presumiddidley?" are you related to Ned Flanders? (around 17:00, probably a little before)

[@gioc2512]

I agree with most of the list i would just move Lanius and House up. Lanius is basically gladiator version of Frank Horrigan and House with an upgraded army is extremely powerful but i guess his secret chamber not being a very hard lock keeps him down a spot lol

[@madsaasted2272]

Kimballs ultimate goal is to enforce taxation. Easily puts him above ultimate villain ranking

[@kotzpenner]

Bro really put Lou Tenant into second to last tier. He is the smartest supermutant of the franchise next to Marcus.

[@turtletipper1851]

General Oliver is memorable because you can get Yes Man to throw him off the dam which is funny.

[@xXMcniblettsXx]

As a new parent when fallout 4 came out I was gutted when Shawn was revealed to be Father. I see now that objectively the writing for fallout 4 is pretty bad and there’s a lot of tells that this will be the outcome but at the time that really hit home for me.

[@archibald_raven]

"we own the east" "waht about the west" "we will own the west" "waht about the east" "ok I give up"

[@Fastwinstondoom]

I'd personally put John Henry Eden higher because of his eye bots / radio propaganda. Him constantly talking about "true american values" is great forshadowing for his plans imo. Ofc I only really knew about that because I eventually got so tired of Three Dog that I had to swich off his radio channel :D ...so, radio channel tier list when?

[@ctxx]

Your channel is so good man🌹

[@flamingdeathbanana]

The Lieutenant is kinda one of the most important enemies in FO1 lmao.

[@Loveofdestruction]

Dr. Klein, my beloved

[@Shinyshoesz]

Great list. I'd bump Mr. House into S-tier villain just based on vibes haha. I think he's one of the most iconic parts of that game, and I always felt like if they were given more time, he might be even more intimidating/they might have had a longer route you'd have to go through to kill him. His dialogue tree alone is probably my favorite I've encountered across the series!

[@DigiEvoluido]

Goes to show how good New Vegas writing is, almost everything at the top is New Vegas

[@SuperFriendBFG]

The early Brotherhood of Steel in between Fallout 1 / 2 did provide some support to early Wastelanders in the form of food and such. Fairly sure this was established in Fallout 2. That doesn't change too much with your assessment except perhaps that they're marginally more involved.

[@Avatar1977]

Way to generous to Eden, a villain you can defeat with a half-assed science skill

[@Arutima]

Aliens back story is more flesh out in Fallout 76. Desmond Lockheart and Professor Calvert are both part of the Great Game, a post-War rivalry and struggle between pre-War geniuses and billionaires. The Great Game is alleged in Point Lookout, Far Harbour, Fallout 76, Fallout New Vegas and the TV show.

[@ElDrHouse2010]

I thought Desmond: The Brain in Pointlook Out was very forgettable. He suffices as a villain but he is the definition of forgettable. Pointlook Out was made in like 4 months tho we gotta keep that in mind. None of them came in with any backstory for the characters which showcases how awful is so start something with barely any conceptualization first. Bet they just said: Secret Agent vs Mad Scientist James Bond typa story! Barely anything to build up these character arcs...

[@ViperMach5]

When I played Point Lookout for the first time and saw Desmond and Prof. Calvert (the damn brain), it reminded me of that one Dexter's Laboratory movie that had Old Man Dexter and Mandark's brain in a tube.

[@KorbentMarksman]

Big ups for appreciating DiMA, he's a great character.

[@shanewilliams9991]

I feel like the Minutemen and Railroad had different objectives; certainly different enough for them to not be perceived allies. The minutemen are for the people of the commonwealth where as the railroad are for the liberation of the synths. When in doubt look to the radiant quests

[@DustyPazner]

Dima is ult? Doesnt he like just cry and shit? You get him his momories back and he just cries and welcomes you to the dark brotherhood so you can kill a zelot and a woman.

[@rojaws1183]

General Barnaky from Fallout Tactics is a good antagonist who deserves to be on this list.

[@schmoe5869]

The respect for Father Elijah is great

[@crazycresp2373]

shouldnt less storied villains like motor runner and eulogy jones be on here?

[@crazycresp2373]

or even the vault 12 overseer 🥸

[@Kavou]

Caesar is an S tier. Your choices are always on spot.

[@jorgecastillo2391]

Depending how you interpret this tier list, Todd Howard is either S tier or F tier. There’s absolutely no in between

[@MavvodoHall]

I was gonna lose it to not see. Is mobius on top I love his giant robo Scorpion, boss.

[@briantrafford4871]

I would bump Betty up to "Formidible* based on the character's level of evil. I would also add a Eulogy Jones to this list for the same reason. The slavers of Paradis Falls were a great addition to Fallout 3, and in some ways more interesting than the slavers in Nuka World. Maybe a tier for pure evil antagonists makes more sense for characters like this.

[@silverjohn6037]

Considering she's the simulation persona for Stanislaus Braun, the scientist who designed all the Vault "experiment" (which considering his sadistic personality make a bit more sense), she/he is probably the most evil character in the series.

[@briantrafford4871]

@silverjohn6037 Unlike Caesar, Braun can't even claim brain trauma or insanity. He/she is definitely pure evil. Eulogy is no better, enslaving children, bomb collar and all. New Vegas was definitely dark, but Fallout 3 was no less twisted.

[@briantrafford4871]

@silverjohn6037 Braun/Betty was definitely pure evil, but so was Eulogy. Enslaving children, bomb collar and all was among the most twisted things ever done in the series.

[@cloudyvortex]

You forgot (_very_ understandably) the other Fallout 4 DLC antagonists: Tektus, Allen Lee, Colter, the Black siblings, Mason, Nessa, and Valery Barstow. I wouldn't blame anyone for forgetting them. DiMA is fascinating and Isabel might be the most relatable 'villain' in the franchise. The rest, not so much. (Ok, Valery's at least funny.)

[@idkthenameXD]

@@cloudyvortex its prob cause its a community tierlist and he's just ranking what is there already

[@brandonferrell3773]

Do a companion tier list

[@forrestwallis7885]

I was woundering where eulogy jones was but considering hes not here he probably would go under forgetable

[@galdersrontgorrth]

i dunno if you've ever fought salt-upon-wounds, but he and his two cronies can easily knock joshua graham unconscious. at least if you're playing the dlc at a medium to high lvl (25+).

[@terryrodgers9560]

Great list ron, but cmon, salt upon wounds is poo tier.

[@jakeeb2441]

I love the look and feel of Point Lookout, but it really feels like they threw in the towel with the quest and individual location design. The only quest I like doing is the Chinese spy one, and the replay value of that quest is not high.

[@jakobgustafsson7898]

The Lieutenant is in Fallout 1, not 2

[@G1antPurpleHipp0]

Where's the Ant-Agonizer? Yes-Man? Elder Lyons? Joshua Graham?

[@onehandstance]

I see the thumbnail. I really hope this isn't new vagas elitism

[@Scowleasy]

Every time I play OWB I hate Borous just a little bit more

[@hades_deathgod9496]

House is definitely Ultimate villain, and when you first meet him he is very intimidating, I think you’re coming at it with end game knowledge, where yea we know then he’s not that much of a threat himself, but his resources, his intelligence and his charisma, along with his lofty goals for the wasteland are not just admirable, but awe inspiring, so much so that people still debate him and his philosophies today, Mr House IS New Vegas there is nothing without him, there is no fallout without him, no pip boys, not vaults no trons, nothing, this is Robert goddamn house and you need to put respect on his name. I think the think tank should be in ultimate villain tier for the same reason mobius is, they’re just scientists with dementia, but they all have such incredible personalities that you can’t help but be endeared by them, or disgusted, despite their appearance they are very human and their wackiness is one of the best parts about (in my opinion) the best DLC in NV

[@shorewall]

He's not really a villain, unless you betray him. From the start, he seems to place total trust in you, and offers you a lot in return. Even then, he will never directly go against you, only defend himself when you try to kill him.

[@hades_deathgod9496]

@@shorewall I mean there are a few here that you wouldn’t consider a villain, at least if you’re not against them, but that’s why they’re the antagonists, they’re against you (at some point or another)

[@LONESTARx51B]

Link to this tier list?

[@LONESTARx51B]

Nvm

[@southernSCkid]

Mercer in formidable foes is wild …..

[@1yu8omir]

I have the feeling he had somehow to balance stuff out between the games, because NV has way more memorable characters. It's just better at story telling, with more adult approach to world building, while F3 and F4 are following the parody (?) theme and it feeling fictional.

[@charliebottom_ramen498]

21:38 Shout out to SODAZ

[@stonecoldsteverharvey7862]

It’s Werner bro lmao

[@shorewall]

My brain and heart hurt every time I have to listen to Caesar bloviate his brain dead "philosophy" at me. I like him as a monster who has caused more suffering on Earth than many of history's worst monsters, intentionally and without remorse. What bothers me is when people try to defend the Legion. I feel the same way about the Institute. Evil for the sake of evil, but people try to read more into it. People try to say that it is necessary, but to that I just point at the NCR and Minutemen. You can build a good society in the Wasteland. Nothing justifies the pointless atrocities of the Legion and Institute.

[@madeofgrease9220]

Fallout 76 has honestly a decent antagonist for it being straight garbage.

[@doublem1975x]

Put some respect on Lou-tenant’s name. Btw he’s from FO1 not FO2.

[@180treehousegang8]

I thought he easily tops formidable foes, but I guess Ron doesn't remember him? I don't know why either because he was by far the second most memorable character of fallout 1 and his accent alone gives me chills.

[@doublem1975x]

@@180treehousegang8 Voiced by the legendary Tony Jay. Big Lou was terrifying like all of the super mutants in FO1, those clay talking heads were nightmare fuel.

[@KiiBon]

I'm just wondering why Desdemona is here lmaooo