Fallout: New Vegas - CAESAR Conversations (ALL DIALOGUE, MODDED, UNCUT)

The dialogue of Edward Sallow, founder and leader of Caesar's Legion. The thumbnail art is by Gem Ryan Guerrero.
#caesarslegion #caesar #falloutnewvegas
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The Platinum Chip: (0:00)
History of The Legion: (3:12)
Enlisting The Boomers (20:13)
Chief Hanlon's Death (22:45)
Destroying the Rangers (23:38)
Enlisting The White Glove Society (24:26)
Destroying the Brotherhood (25:46)
The Surgery (29:04)
Veni, Vidi, Vici (32:49)
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[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

"It means a Nationalist, Imperialist, Totalitarian, Homogeneous culture that obliterates the identity of every group it conquers." - Caesar If you enjoyed this video make sure to like, subscribe and comment. New Vegas ULTIMATE Legion Walkthrough - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZWspXanjJ2siNE New California ULTIMATE Enclave Walkthrough - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKfMYpiYlLGSb9U Ulysses Caesar's Legion Dialogue - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqmWXpashtlnmLc Caesar's Legion Ending - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKfCpZauj7GJjLM Father Elijah Dialogue - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mICsfYqYpK6XfpI Chief Hanlon Full Speech - kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXjTYnqmqr2SprM Joshua Graham Full Speech - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnSUm3SIfLGBm5o

[@trippy9865]

Caesar wants to have the ultimate gamer moment.

[@Tom.Ireland]

Greatings fellow legionnaire!

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

@@Tom.Ireland Hello!

[@maleexile9053]

Hirdmen on stand by

[@caesarleaderofthelegion612]

I think I was drunk when I said that

[@urthofthenewsun8465]

Out of all the members of the Legion, Caesar himself is the only person who doesn’t speak in a formal dialect. He swears like a sailor.

[@totmgsrockxd9900]

"What a f&&king waste of time!" "Losers don't matter in the history books. He's a f&&king footnote."

[@amymeadows9834]

That's the only thing I like about him

[@bbluva20]

“Do as I say, not as I do.” Hallmark of a firm leader.

[@MoskHotel]

“So go to the building and take this f&&ing Platinum Chip with you.”

[@Glassandcandy]

Most of the legion were trained and drilled by Joshua Graham, who speaks very eloquently. I think he set the precedent for how the legion chooses to speak.

[@_MaZTeR_]

Meanwhile in Fallout 4: You're too stupid to understand and I'm too smart to have to explain it to you.

[@basedbattledroid3507]

DAMNIT SHAUN

[@Kreia.]

more like Emil has no idea what to write.

[@TurKlack]

I love the Institute, my favorite Faction. But damn. Bethesda went all out and gave them an identity Crisis. The thing is, the reason why I like the Institute so much is not because they convinced through dialogue. Rather it's more what I can do with it as soon as I'm it's Leader. I'm sure Bethesda only made them look evil because they can't think of a Fallout without god damn Super Mutants crawling around like Bugs. Fucking annoying. Killing and replacing the Leaders of different Factions with Androids? Yeah, from a tactical and strategic pov this makes a lot of sense. But what's with all the random replacements that serve no purpose other than delivering the brunt "Institute bad" message? If you take out everything illogical and unnecessary, the Institute is very arrogant and ignorant, but they aren't the fucking Monsters F4 wants us to believe.

[@EveryoneElseIsWeirdImNormal]

More like ceaser thinks himself better but still knows that he needs other people and as such he explains everything in dialogue while the institute doesn't think they need anyone so they don't explain anything and In order to figure out what's going on you have to search around looking for clues about super mutants and the such

[@cassierbutler6073]

Oh no, a unitoligist

[@Jesse-fd5bv]

''He's a fucking footnote.''' Probably my favourite line in all his dialogue.

[@Spongebrain97]

Mine is either "what a fucking waste of time" or when he says that he used the idea of Rome for his legion because it was the most advanced and sophisticated state of its time and it's mirrored society could and would survive the post apocalyptic war

[@alexdamand9003]

Timestamp pls?

[@stefanchr7715]

@@alexdamand9003 12:12

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Mr. House doesn't stand a chance.

[@BENOTAFRAID689]

"Yo Kate, what ever happened to that guy you were dating?" > Insert

[@GuyWithTriangle]

One thing I really like is that normally Caesar is very demanding, bombastic, and dignified in his dialogue, but when he's speaking to you about his tumor in his tent he's much more subdued, intimate even. A nice touch

[@MR.LMR1996]

Probably due to the fact that he's speaking with someone who knows what's making him sick. Last thing he'd want to do there is piss off someone who is in a position to help him now that he has an answer to his headaches.

[@basedbattledroid3507]

True, he trusts the courier but is afraid that mentioning his tumor to his other subordinates would make him appear weak.

[@maestreiluminati87]

@@MR.LMR1996 i think because it's best to be on good terms with the person that would be potentially poking around his exposed brain with a scalpel

[@TheEmpiresStrongest]

I find it still funny that when kill Caesar everyone loves you. That aside at least him and Benny both share the same opinion about the Omertas. The Omertas are degenerates.

[@JW-zx5dr]

Very true!

[@Charles-e4x]

"I may have taken the torch part more literally than they intended." OH YOU!

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Such a lad.

[@hisholiness4537]

"Losers don't matter in the history books. He's a fucking footnote." OOOH DAAAAMN

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Mr. House is pretty lame compared to Caesar.

[@JDG-hq8gy]

“How do I put this basically enough? It’s a philosophical theory, the kind you might encounter if you took time to read some books” The actual sass on this madlad

[@JudgeSpektre]

He might not understand that using the word philosophical might be a bit over the head of a one intelligence character. Lol.

[@crimsondynamo615]

“Well Caesar it’s quite difficult to find intact books these days when most of it is burnt up or in the hands of private collectors.”

[@Deadsea_1993]

@@crimsondynamo615 . Or Brotherhood of Steel hoarding them

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

The courier needs to educate himself.

[@BENOTAFRAID689]

When you decide you'd rather die than not make a witty retort: "Oh, people still read books?"

[@finnegan5038]

Me 2 seconds into a zoom lecture: 23:24

[@bionicmanspeedruns]

Best comment ever

[@sigmanerd8553]

U made my day lol

[@animq4ionboi.153]

Same

[@TacticalProjectGaming]

I burst out laughing

[@ctnke]

based

[@Marcus280898]

Caesar's dialogue is so well written, "Helegian Dialectics"! In what other game do you have such conversations with characters?

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

There is none. Fallout: New Vegas is simply the best game of all time.

[@maleexile9053]

Kotor 2 or dues ex revolution

[@matthewgaviola8885]

Hopefully this level of awesomeness will be present in Outer Worlds

[@maleexile9053]

I'm more of a fan of nietzsche then georg hegal tbh

[@technoblode4604]

Kotor 2 kreia speech, New vegas, and Kotor 2, were actually written by the same guy.

[@yeungscs]

20:12 that's Joshua Graham's armor. cheeky bastard lol.

[@theuberedredspy8791]

Imagine a random ass mailman you hired asks about a general you had executed and you just change the subject, then a week or so later they come back wearing that former general's clothes like it's just something they have in their wardrobe for fancy occasions.

[@chiconico9738]

New Vegas is one of the few games in the world that I have played and still debate and think about the factions and their purpose after 10 years of a first playthrough. New vegas is a work of art

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

The greatest game of all time.

[@L-Archange]

As long as you don’t consider the legion lmao

[@toprope_]

This is what happens when you shell out money for a good VA. Amazing script, but if nuclear winter guy was reading this no one would remember Caesar.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

You're totally right. Truly amazing voice acting. Chief Hanlon is another favourite of mine.

[@kredl756]

I love how Ceasar is lover of History, he knew about Pretorian guards become so influential because of lack of respect and them being compliant so he just get rid of the compliant part by culling them in most natural way.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

It keeps them from getting complacent.

[@noriyakigumble3011]

BUT yet again, the Praetorians originally had a lot more Checks on their power out in place by Caesar (Augustus) himself. It was his successor who strengthened the Praetorians as an arm of the government and that caused the guard to devolve into a corrupt institution and power behind the throne. Whenever anyone asks whether or not Caesars peace would last, history works against him.

[@maleexile9053]

The Chad caesar vs the Virgin general Oliver

[@hardcorenicotineaddict5517]

Throw his ass off that dam.

[@fatalos6855]

The Chin Mr House

[@ismayonaiseaninstrumentno7105]

Cheek yesman

[@isecream]

President Aaron Kimball

[@b3nl555]

Even on his own turf, General "Extra Virgin" Olive Oil is a virgin to Chads like Chief Chadlon.

[@tahircamalanoglu]

children if you read enough old books you might be ceaser some day

[@floorfungus4209]

His name is spelled CAESAR not CEASER you absolute profligate

[@ill8485]

Sounds like a good deal to me

[@animq4ionboi.153]

@@floorfungus4209 no it's spelled Kaiser

[@Kreia.]

@@animq4ionboi.153 no. CAESAR

[@leriotic4628]

@@Kreia. NO , its E D W A R D

[@Hugh_Morris]

It’s a great character because he shows how horrifically violent these ancient societies were; the ones we study and idolise, like Rome. They massacred millions, wiped out entire civilisations that opposed them by way of slaughter and enslavement. His namesake killed over a million people in Gaul, enslaved a million more and was victorious by way of “divide et impera.” Putting a conqueror of antiquity into the near future was a bold move and it paid off really well, in my opinion. What a character.

[@maleexile9053]

All civilizations that had the power to conquer conquered

[@MrMichealHouse]

It's too bad Caeser's Legion as it stands in the game forgets that Rome uses technology and diplomacy extensively, which the Legion does not. As Caeser says himself, they're more barbarians than the Roman Empire. It's ironic; NCR, for all its faults, emulates the actual Rome better than the Legion itself does.

[@Hugh_Morris]

Mr. House good point. Caesar’s Legion operates more like the Roman Kingdom in my opinion. They’re inherently barbarian like before Rome became “civilised” or “Hellenised” and scorned that type of government. But I believe neither truly operate like the Rome that came to be idolised; the NCR operates quite well as a pre-war democracy but if there is any similarities to the idolised Rome it is the needless bureaucracy, which Caesar even addresses in the game. Like I said great character, serious writing. For a potential successor to Rome in this world, then there would need to be a synthesis of the two factions. Which is entirely plausible if the Legion wins, and the educated elite in California band together and depose the Caesar, mirroring the founding of the Roman Republic and the rise of Roman civilisation.

[@MrMichealHouse]

@@Hugh_Morris Idk. The diversity of competing interests and people is what makes large civilizations prosper. The Legion, at its core, its just a massive indoctrinated slave army with little in the way of innovation, or non-combat related intellect or creativity. The huge bureaucracy is unavoidable with large governments, while the Legion is held together by a single person, who is suffering from both cancer and that fact that he is a bad shit deluded on the sheer amount of death and destruction he causes. Several characters in the game, Marcus, Mr. House among others, know that without Caeser, the Legion will rip itself apart, while the NCR would simply elect a new leader if Kimball is killed. The NCR has vehicles and monorails, and can successfully supply the Mojave campaign with troops and supplies, which it has been barely doing since the Mojave campaign isn't exactly the most popular back home. The Legion could hope to do some damage earlier on a western campaign, but it would not be able to outfight the NCR on its home soil going Total War mode without systemic changes to its way of operation. The Legions supply lines are safer, but they powered by slave foot power, or braham caravans I guess. Even if the Legion manages to take Vegas and march West, their supply lines will be the death of them unless they can break their technology rules and create more efficient means of resupply. The Courier can even point out to the Legate during their confrontation over the Dam, which is the blow that gets him to walk away. The likelihood of them being able to merge seems low; the legion would be demonized, and rightly so, in the eyes of NCR citizens.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

@@MrMichealHouse You're mistaken about the Legion's intentions, at least in my view. At the end of the Lonesome Road DLC there is an option to bomb I-15, which is the only viable road into California. There will be no invasion, no march west. The Legion will be forced to begin the dialectical transition by incorporating the infrastructure of the New Vegas area and become a modern efficient state mirroring the NCR or it will perish. This is the do or die moment for the Legion.

[@chillis4314]

So many great details in these interactions 6:49 Caesar pronounces et cetera with a hard c like it should be pronounced in classical Latin instead of the soft c that pretty much every English speaker would use. It shows so much attention to detail that they maintained the legion using the proper Latin pronouncation beyond just the Caesar/Kaiser detail.

[@gothxm]

I was wondering why he pronounces everything differently. Was Caesar's name really pronounced like that?

[@Notaffiliated64]

No it wasn’t C-ae-saR but C-AE(I sound,diphthong)ser so more a Kaiser sound

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

K

[@taronguyen1]

27:33 10 y/o me explaining to my parents why i shouldn’t go to school

[@cdf360]

This is such an underrated comment

[@SithEmpiredidnothingwrong]

I can't stop laughing xDD

[@gum8191]

lmao

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Hahahah amazin.

[@totmgsrockxd9900]

Though I disagree with Legion ideology I completely admire how well-made the writing behind Caesar's Legion was. Some may agree with their brutal efforts to forge a civilization in a wasteland just as brutal, and the idea behind a military dictatorship conquering a corrupt Republic for the greater good. No faction in 4 or 76 goes anywhere closer to New Vegas when it comes to writing, lore, and faction depth. Viva Fallout New Vegas.

[@ERROR-hf3wx]

I like him as a character not as a leader. I love listening to what he has to say.

[@nikotheophanis8795]

Vini veni vici

[@critica77y77]

It’s not just 4 and 76. NONE of the other Fallout games do factions as well as New Vegas. And yes, I am including 1 and 2 in that statement.

[@Fuck_handles]

​@@critica77y77huh

[@MakotoComeMiojo]

Sometimes I see myself coming back to this video. The dialog is god-tier, holy shit, its kinda of a pleasure of mine to simply hear Ceaser sometimes, and I dont even agree with his ideology, it just that well written. New Vegas truly is a one of a kind game. True to Ceaser!

[@sigmanerd8553]

I don’t agree with his ideology too but damn can he convince the player that he is right just if we listen to him the way he describes Kimball in such a way that makes u Think he admires him but feels bad for him is just too good imo him and Mr House are two of the greatest written Villains in a game ever

[@OXY187]

@@sigmanerd8553 half of the players who crossed the river just to kill him changed their minds and sided with him. Caesar is the definition of a leader.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Couldn't agree more. Simply amazing dialogue.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

I wish we could get a Fallout game where Obsidian wrote the dialogue and Bethesda did everything else.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

@@Dennis-nc3vw I disagree. I don't like bethesda's mechanics much. The settlement building in Fallout 4 is completely stupid and doesn't belong in fallout.

[@mudstick]

20:15 deadass this is what i used to say to ask my supervisor at work what was going on with managment

[@dasonbane2839]

I love that "relax, I'm fucking with you."

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Caesar is really a comedian at heart.

[@Jacob-gi6ig]

I actually really like ceasar as a character. Type of fella I'd want to kick back and discuss philosophy, history & politics with.

[@witnessgem2504]

Yeah like Arcade Gannon but without the slave collar and suicide

[@Jacob-gi6ig]

@@witnessgem2504 😂😂 true. I don't side with the legion. But Caesar is just an interesting man.

[@viciousrage5548]

Are you related to Robert Leckie by any chance mate? And same. I’d never join the legion but to not say Caesar is a hell of an interesting character is heresy

[@Jacob-gi6ig]

@@viciousrage5548 I don't have any relation that I know of. But honestly who knows, leckie isn't exactly that common of a last name.

[@ocean7849]

I actually pretty much dislike him. He is just a Caesar fanboy and a history buff. He imitates Caesar and is even open about it.

[@jetmaster2315]

Parents: Please don't get political at your little cousins birthday party Me: Ok Me after 6 beers: 16:47

[@TimtheEnchanter1121]

17:42

[@Hulgore]

After 8 beers : 15:19

[@BeaverChainsaw]

Me when I play civ

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Me.

[@Satellite_Of_Love]

Despite being well-read and intelligent, Caesar brings to mind this quote from A Fish Called Wanda: "Apes don't read philosophy!" "Yes they do, Otto, they just don't understand it!"

[@VaultDweller804]

Interestingly, Caesar's intelligence is only a 4 in-game. For comparison, Arcade has a 10 in Intelligence. From Caesar's dubious understanding of both history and philosophy, it's possible that this was done to suggest that Caesar's little more than a pseudo-intellectual. Though, It could also be because of the tumor...

[@conorgleeson2453]

Yup! He only has a basic grasp of Hegel and just assumes the Legion will be transformed by incorporating NCR’s territory when he hasn’t built up the right kind of administrative, anthropological, or societal apparatus to move the Legion from conquering warriors to peacetime. Vulpes, MAYBE, but the centurions? They’ve spent so long as Caesar’s hammer that everything looks like a nail. Caesar’s a very interesting character who has several points about building resilient societies, but walked too far from the Followers of the Apocalypse and ignored that while mighty, human society had moved on from Roman governance for a reason. Ultimately, no system of governance will ever be perfect, because it is inhabited by humans.

[@kaiser4883]

@@VaultDweller804 this is taking only in consideration caesar philosophy and understanding of it as a way of measuring his intellect, you have to take into account what the man has achieved, he has turned tribes into a highly efficient nation with a ruthless discipline and effective war machine that is shaking the world, he is both respected and followed by others who seem to be highly intelligent like vulpes and he knows how to use people in the most efficient way

[@Zanoscar]

@@VaultDweller804 There is a difference between Wisdom and Intelligence, as well as there being different types of intelligence. One thing I immediately think about is when talking to Joshua Graham, he says that he wouldn't have been able to lead the Legion, as he never had a mind for logistics like Caesar. The man is clearly intelligent, and has achieved great things. He may not be a genius but he's the only man who could've lead the Legion.

[@quadroninja2708]

​@@VaultDweller804i don't think SPECIAL stats indicate anything. Frank Horrigan has intelligence of 10, him not being the brightest person before transformation, and his mind deteriorated by FEV after

[@chara2038]

Now that's how you write a villain, Cesar and Lanius dialogues are amazing

[@TimtheEnchanter1121]

He's not a villain.

[@dweller8712]

Villain?

[@animq4ionboi.153]

Villain? Oh what is this a shitty black and white game?

[@binks808]

Villain?

[@kevingalt6658]

Reminds me a bit of Thanos. A man hellbent on achieving his purpose with no regard for the destruction that must be taken en route to it

[@luxither7354]

It's so interesting to see that even now, these comment sections filled with such rich conversation of a game that is now over a decade old. If FNV gets a sequel, I hope to god it creates conversation just like this.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

No way that will ever happen. I'm sorry to say gaming will never reach the heights it reached in this game in terms of writing. We will never see a phenomenon like this game again.

[@armorpiercing3277]

Father of the Institute - "My motivations are too complex for me to explain, just do what I tell you because I'm smart. Trust me." Caesar of the Legion - "My goal is to forge humanity in a crucible of blood and steel, humanity and strength will out weigh technology and corruption in my new world, as those ideals lead to the death of civilization. Rather than reforming a civilization which ended humanity I will re form a civilization which practically start a concept of civilization in and of itself. Along with this; republican democracies have proven to not work and be ineffective forms of government. Therefore rather than looking to the past for the death of humanity I will look to the past for civilizations which stood proud for a thousand years. The post apocalypse shares many struggles with the pre civilized world therefore I will use a civilization which had forged civility to bring civilization back to an uncivilized world."

[@angelo8304]

It terms of writing, story, and characters, New Vegas is superior

[@VictorIV0310]

Temple OS

[@joshuakirkham4024]

Average institute fan vs average legion enjoyer

[@Deadsea_1993]

I mentioned this on Fallout Reddit. People said "NV fanboy". Lmao. They said "Institute is made up of scientists that are meant to screw around, that's the point cause CIT". Terrible writing. How about Father wants to unite technology and people together to form a new being in the post apocalypse. Mr. House was a good example of this, but Institute could take it further. 4's story was shit as much as I love the gameplay

[@Syrus2006]

@@Deadsea_1993 ->Reddit There's your problem my man

[@PirateFunk]

It's a shame that they had to cut content from the Legion. Even then the Legion is the most fascinating, although often misunderstood, faction in the game. I hope that one day we will be able to see a re-release or mod that fully fleshes out the Legion as the desigers envisioned it.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

I believe there is a Legion Arizona mod project to explore Legion territory as it is back East where it's not purely a military organization, but that is still in development. In terms of the base game, the best quests to use are: Legion Quests Expanded, My kind of town Legion option and A Golden opportunity.

[@matthewgaviola8885]

All things considered, Obsidian did will in the time Bethesda alotted them to make this game

[@MWPRO1000]

Albert Cole Acta non verba.

[@SSJKirik]

I don't think they were misunderstood. Their society is generally noted to be safer, and the Legion does not have the supply problems the NCR suffers from. Additionally, the Legion can pivot strategically far easier than the Bureaucratic NCR can. So many of the NCR's quests have the player dealing with problems relating to things a simple as manpower. The Legion's quests mainly deal with operating in territory that is actively hostile to you. That being said, the Legion has a ton of issues both ideologically, and fundamentally. Caesar acts as if thesis and antithesis is an immutable truth rather than a simple philosophy. It is a hallmark to Caesar's arrogance. He even sees the NCR as this challenge to overcome and over take. Diplomacy *never* enters into his mind. In this way, he is very much a personification of his Legion: A single-minded Entity bent only on conquering at any cost. It is in his tactics, and his philosophy. His best General emulates this. (Any one else find it amusing that Lanius can be convinced to give up the campaign for New Vegas for the overall health of the Legion in the long term?) This is the major issue with the Legion; it's ideology will die with Caesar. This is even stated in the ending slides if Caesar dies. This doesn't even begin to go into the issues that women in this particular society face.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

@@SSJKirik "Caesar acts as if thesis and antithesis is an immutable truth rather than a simple philosophy." There are some objective measures for this philosophy though, for instance as the NCR is conquered, the Legion will take over its civilian infrastructure - dams, electrical grids, agriculture, etc. By necessity it will develop a class of citizenry to adapt to this change. So, the idea of synthesizing different ideologies and societies is not purely theoretical, it has some objective measures. The Legion has changed throughout its 30 year conquest of the East, Caesar simply believes this process will be expedited by conquering the NCR and transforming it into a military dictatorship. "Diplomacy never enters into his mind." Diplomacy would contradict the entire purpose of the Legion, which is to forcibly integrate and synthesize territory, to destroy differing identities and replace with a single monolithic culture. Caesar could negotiate with the NCR, but that would mean undermining the entire principles of the Legion, he may as well abdicate at that point. "This doesn't even begin to go into the issues that women in this particular society face." No worse than the issues men face in this society, in fact male death rates are much higher, so it could be argued that they have it worse. Also, don't think of the Legion as static, like I said, hegelian dialectics are not just an idea in Caesar's head, they're an ongoing process of fusion through expansion. The idea that Caesar's Legion will remain a warband as seen in 2281 for the next century is ridiculous, the Blackfoot tribe under Edward Sallow was a backward group that didn't even know the most basics of technology and were about to be wiped out by the 7 other tribes in the area in 2245. 30 years later they were the 2nd largest society in the post war world.

[@brandonbungcayao4156]

Ave, true to Caesar.

[@humbertocobian4740]

Truly a testament to the talent in obsidian alas formerly black isle. The best makers of rpgs i have ever known.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Truly an amazing developer.

[@tripmann268]

Absolutely love the story of the blackfoot tribe

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Yeah, I can listen to that story all day. I'd say Caesar describing the Grand Canyon mission and how he formed the Legion is the best dialogue in the game.

[@crimsondynamo615]

If one wants to make Van Buren canon, the Blackfoot are tied to your companion Sulik from Fallout 2, because his sister is leader of the Blackfoot tribe.

[@true5382]

This is what I like about Fallout New Vegas: Each faction isn’t necessarily right or wrong. The NCR is rife with corruption and sluggishly slow (as expected for most democracies), yet provides stability to those they annex and civilize, allowing for citizens to have relative safety and the construction of projects that benefit the people (NCR citizens only though), hence why NCR settlements are considered the safest places in Fallout. Caesar’s legion allows for complete and utter stability through conquests, conquering every tribe and actually making the wasteland, especially the roads, a little safer for people passing by, but rely on classical-era ideologies and slavery while also rejecting most modernization, which holds them back. There are other factions as well, but it would be lengthy, but in the end, that is the beauty of this game, there is truly no right or wrong answer, because each faction in the end can fix some problems, but also makes some problems in the process (compare this to Fallout 4, which is way too straightforward with who is good or bad).

[@armadyl1212]

To me, Caesar's Legion is still worse, as it incorporates sexual slavery, raiding, and child soldiers, which I can not possibly justify

[@Journey_Awaits]

War is inevitable for humanity, a good empire will lead the people to war once in a while or else the people will turn on each other, that’s where the legion has a advantage

[@gerald1495]

@@armadyl1212 those have been going on for 99% of our existence, stop protecting modern world morals into the hellscape that is the fallout wasteland

[@armadyl1212]

@@gerald1495 The fact that something happened doesn't make it morally permissible.. Also, I'm projecting "modern morals" into this discussion because thats what the OP discussion is about, right and wrong. Otherwise, of course i don't care, its just a game lol, its just for this discussion.. But are you saying "modern morals" is what deems sexual slavery as wrong, like that somehow shouldn't be condemned?

[@alfredospautzgranemannjuni5864]

@@armadyl1212 you are literally expressing modern morals lol. If you want to argue that way, let’s bring racism and lgtv’s altogether to the discussion too! And islamophobia!

[@NoOne-hr9ti]

“Come back victorious, or don’t come back.” One of the greatest anti-villains ever

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Very ominous. He's clearly hinting about what happened to Graham.

[@futabagaming]

'anti-villian'? Do you understand what that word means? Just because he has understandable motivations, that doesn't make him an anti-vilian

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

@@futabagaming Maybe he meant anti hero

[@BENOTAFRAID689]

Allegedly, the quote is based on an old Roman proverb, in which mothers would tell their sons "Come back on your shield or not at all." Something to the effect of "Better you give your all and die in battle, than hold back and shame us."

[@Accountfella8267]

​@@BENOTAFRAID689that was from greek spartans, not romans But close lol

[@TheKing-uc4og]

"What else did you want to know?" - Caesar, New Vegas -

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

He's ready to educate you.

[@HalfToothReplica]

I would say in my opinion Caesar is one of the best written characters in all video games and the voice actor did a great job capturing the strong dialogue. Caesar has some very strong points that can make you believe him and work for his legion. which is very hard to do when your character is literally a vicious, ruthless and merciless dictator. how to make this man a compelling choice? this is how you do it boys. i love New Vegas, it's in my eyes one of the best open-world RPGs ever made.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

New Vegas is the greatest game of all time.

[@kadenpeters8647]

Fun fact: how he pronounces “Caesar” is the actual original latin pronunciation of Caesar. I take a Latin class, I’m a nerd.

[@alexanderthegreat1270]

From my memory, “Caesar” is Latin right? While “Kaiser” is Greek?

[@JohnSmith-jz2ke]

@Noon Kaiser is a title, it’s the equivalent to Emperor but it was taken from the name Caeser, made into a title, same as the Russian Czar.

[@sirmount2636]

Seezer

[@pr1ckly200]

@Grim Looters as a european i can attest to this, in germanic language the "c" is interchangeable and the further south you go the more common it gets pronounced "k" rather than "s".

[@dogwater5499]

si quis tu melius instructus fortuna finem

[@hyperion6902]

“Take this fucking platinum chip”

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

It's garbage anyway.

[@Journey_Awaits]

20:15 Gen X business meetings

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Zoomers FTW

[@allhandsondik7803]

He's easily one of the most detestable characters, while also being one of the most interesting and intriguing to listen to, a conversation with him and Arcade would be incredible to listen to.

[@quinnlee-miller9792]

Caesar: Lanius is incapable of caring for the Legion; very useful. Also Caesar: Yeah he's my successor

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Successor until he finds a new one. Like Darth Vader and the Emperor.

[@thebandofbastards4934]

It's more that he know that his Legion would most likely follow Lanius.

[@caesarleaderofthelegion612]

Ok so I was very drunk when this happens so...

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

I forgive you Caesar.

[@totmgsrockxd9900]

0:51 Lmfao

[@LukazChrom]

I remember the first time I got that in-game when I did a Pro-Legion campaign. I REALLY fell for it and was like ... WHAT ?! XD Good memories.

[@moose8332]

Caesar is such a good character.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

The best villain in gaming history.

[@germanwojtek3576]

Really miss playing this game for the first time . So much depth and violence . Masterpiece. Too bad I played it to death! My last playthrough I did the Dead Money DLC last , and I remember trapping myself in the vault . That was the last thing I did .

[@Hulgore]

The game is in my opinion hard to enjoy beyond first playthrough, as the game engine feels weak, the map is small, the level design is poor, the map is unimpressive on what it looks, the combats are tedious. Outside dialogues it's hard to have a good time once you already know the factions and story plots

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

@@Hulgore I disagree. I still enjoy the game to this day.

[@nickmeyer8431]

20:12 caesar was probably pissed/horrified to see you wearing grahams clothes but said nothing so as to not reveal the truth of the burned man; just put on a poker face

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

It's also a subtle way of the Courier communicating that Graham is dead without publicly saying his name. I always love to do that in my game.

[@rotraven]

Courier: **asks a question** Caesar: READ A FUCKING BOOK

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

He's right you know.

[@kieranhurst8543]

I love how forthcoming he is with everything except his health and Joshua Graham.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

He's also very touchy about the first dam battle. "It's not going to happen again that's all I have to say about it!"

[@Tony-The-Motherfucking-Tiger]

I don't get why they'd cut off this content. It's not much, and it would have made The Legion have more missions.

[@123GOHANZ]

Time constraints my friend

[@Duke0Forever]

Killing Hanlon, whilst interesting addition, kinda makes no sense to me. Yes, the Legion is killing the NCR members left and right. But if Hanlon is captured after Legion's victory (under Caesar), he's treated with respect and is given a swift death.

[@savvyslie1833]

@@Duke0Forever But killing such a big figure in the NCR would be a huge blow, yes, killing the president is one thing but assassinating perhaps the NCR's best field commander, that would cause terror

[@Duke0Forever]

@@savvyslie1833 best field commander who had no authority over the troops anymore - Oliver wad the one fully in charge.

[@JazzyRiot79]

@@Duke0Forever It's about morale. The Rangers (who just so happen to be the greatest threat the NCR has against the Legion) respect and follow Hanlon more than Oliver, even in the endings if Hanlon commits suicide or is killed or disgraced bc of his lies it shatters the Rangers morale and they even crumble to almost nothing in one ending. Same thing goes with if Caesar dies and leadership is given to Lanius, Legion wouldn't last more than a decade bc the Legion idolizes and follows Caesar more than they do his ideals.

[@realdaggerman105]

Incredibly well-written and interesting character. Complete opposite to the players vision of his faction, yet tragically wrong and flawed. After Caesar dies, his empire falls apart, no matter what happens at Hoover Dam.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

"After Caesar dies, his empire falls apart, no matter what happens at Hoover Dam." Where did you learn this? You think because Marcus and Joshua Graham said this it's an axiomatic truth?

[@infinitnrg1088]

@@AlbertColeUnleashed well house does comment on Caesar's death and mentions how even though the legion's aggression will outlast Caesar's death in the battle for hoover dam, it will ultimatly fall due to "in fighting". And while house's predictions/calculations may not be the 100% truth, they are still very accurate.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

@@infinitnrg1088 That's before the 2nd battle of Hoover Dam, it doesn't take into account later events.

[@SaintJames14]

@@AlbertColeUnleashed fighting the good fight, brother. Ave.

[@MasteringJohn]

Possibly. The U.S. had similar hopes about Stalin, yet the Soviets kept chugging along for decades afterwards. Dictatorships can last for far longer than is comfortable, only to collapse suddenly at an unexpected moment. The black box nature of their internal politics makes such things very difficult to predict.

[@maxthebrave228]

Imagine if you could play a game that focuses on caesar's backstory

[@RaidenMustDie3594]

Or better yet, Joshua Graham :)

[@shapkapetrovich1723]

Umm.... Civilization?

[@ShadowMokujin]

When talking to each faction they arent wrong when speaking on each other

[@Hulgore]

except maybe for the brotherhood which feels very loss

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

@@Hulgore Brotherhood suck.

[@justaguy6133]

Edwards discovered 4chan in a pre-war book and established a tribe out of it

[@willsplayify]

i always thought that he was some deluded fool but seems like he has a plan and clearly knows what he is doing

[@noriakikakyoin1423]

I mean he still is a deluded fool thinking he's gonna be able to build an entire empire in the wasteland with nothing but a bunch of guys in foot ball gear and machetes

[@trenaceandblackmetal5621]

@@noriakikakyoin1423 Literally doing better than the NCR

[@googane7755]

@@noriakikakyoin1423 That's the thing, he's being purposely destroying every identity of the tribes he conquers and replaces with his singular culture and idea of a unified Rome bringing order to the wasteland. The people have nothing to back to, their old customs, traditions and tribes had been smashed and the remnants assimilated. Their identity no longer matters, there is only the Legion now. Its why virtually nothing changed when ceaser dies.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

He definitely has a plan but who knows if he can hold it together long enough to pull it off.

[@praisemidir]

@@noriakikakyoin1423 said football gear is more effective than any NCR equipment imfao

[@Dartyus]

And you thought your boss was bad.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

If you make a mistake and you got crucified.

[@Lizzardtong]

It's always a joy to discuss the 4 new vegas fractions, eh? to chalk each fraction down to their pro and cons: Legion: Stable and secure regions, but loss of individualism. NCR: the typical issues and good things that arrive about democracy. the most "human" group. but horrible logistics and massive courruption. House: a Visionary who has proven he has the will and intellect to make his visions come true, at the cost of practically electing a dictator. Wildcard: True freedom or simple Anarchy?

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

It basically encapsulates the major 4 worldviews that we have in real life. Masterful writing.

[@DrewFr33m4nn]

Had to come back to a game with actual good writing, after that frontier mess.

[@pogicus89]

Ave, true to sneedsar

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

I wonder if new updates have fixed the frontier mess.

[@pigmentpeddler5811]

Frontier is pog

[@seneca4134]

Life in the legion is brutal and unforgiving, but you will be stronger.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

So true.

[@Lazyguy22]

Stronger to what end? What is the point of all the annihilation of identity, the subjugation of women, the torture, the slaughter, the crucifixions? All that, just to build stronger men? Better annihilators of identity, better subjugators of women? Better torturers, better slaughterers, better crucifiers? Is that your vision for the future of mankind?

[@L-Archange]

As long as you’re not a woman…

[@jeremyrossi2716]

Regardless of whether you despise Caesar and his Legion or not, can we all agree that John Doman makes the character a joy to listen to; similar to Keith Szarabajka and Joshua Graham.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Yeah, another commenter noted that without the voice acting the character wouldn't be nearly as memorable which I agree with.

[@Dennis-nc3vw]

"Any invasion by a democracy is a half-measure." Damn, son!

[@dickonmanwoody7599]

Afghanistan. Lol.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

[@Sam-hy2rc]

The thing i find quite cool about caesars dialog is that he doesnt make any effort to shore himself up in terms of his speech, he speaks plainly and bluntly because he can, he has no need to put on false pretenses or to impress.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

He's still trying to win you over.

[@alvodisco]

Cool NPC especially when you crit him with bloody mess on

[@animq4ionboi.153]

With a knife too in March 15th either irl or in game

[@yeoremuthare677]

Caesar will die without the courier's help. He lives his life ignoring the cries of the weak, so when mortality comes, he can't save himself. No amount of "divide et impera" will save him here. Maybe valuing human life a little more would have helped him save his own. Or he could be blessed with a little deus ex machina and just have the oh so talented courier save his ass. At the end of the day, Caesar's just as weak as any man, and just as stupid and desperate too. He's such a good character, they don't write em like that anymore

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

What advanced medicine do you think they have in the East that Caesar could've taken advantage of? These tribes use only herbal remedies. It's entirely a moot point whether he would outlaw medicine, because the Legion simply hasn't had access to any advanced medical equipment or personnel since its inception. The Legion does ban painkillers and stimpaks, which are objective flaws, but that may change in time as they come into contact with armies with better medicinal procedures. And as I said, it's mostly a moot point because for the first 30 years of their 35 year existence they simply wouldn't have had access to these medicines even if they were allowed. It's not a matter of believing those who are injured are "weak". If you get shot in the chest, you're not weak. It's a matter of availability primarily, and suspicion of drugs secondarily. Some suspicion of drugs is warranted, as many are addictive and can ruin lives, but they take the principle too far. Caesar is perfectly willing to use the auto doc, in fact he says "sometimes I bestow its use upon someone I favor." He has no problem using these technologies, but they are extremely limited in the Legion, that's why you don't see an auto doc in every tent. The same thing happens with guns. Some people really are convinced that the Legion doesn't use guns, even though in the game they are often armed with very advanced weaponry, often outclassing their NCR counterparts. In the quest "Birds of a feather", the Legion tries to secure a large energy weapons shipment from the van graffs. People really don't do the research into the faction to understand it, they just make assumptions and extrapolate from those.

[@paulgallagher5092]

@@AlbertColeUnleashed I read another comment chain and someone had a good alternate to that theory. He claimed the weapons shipment was to supply the Fiends and make them a more formidable thorn in the NCR and Strip's sides. He also said there's direct correlation in the game if you succeed the Fiends start spawning with Laser weaponry more often. Thoughts? (I haven't played NV enough to warrant having any opinions lol.)

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

@@paulgallagher5092 That must be incorrect because there is no way to complete Birds of A Feather for the Legion in vanilla New Vegas. When you complete the quest, you must kill the Legion in the warehouse at the end, as they are hostile. Therefore, there is no way for the fiends to actually receive the weapons in the vanilla game. This was changed by the mod "Legion Quests Expanded", which allows you to side with the Legion and kill the NCR troops and Van Graffs. In that mod, a laser rifle will also be added to the list of weapons a veteran Legionary and the (prime and veteran) Legion reinforcements can spawn with, indicating the mod author believes that the Legion want the weapons for themselves, not the fiends. I couldn't find any reference on the fallout wiki to fiends being the recipient of this weapons shipment either. It's an interesting theory, but has no supporting evidence beyond conjecture. Caesar also describes it as a "promising weapons deal" - which indicates he has a personal interest in the weapons, although you could argue that he considers it promising because they can be used to arm the fiends.

[@DevilishBeaver0]

Absolutely fantastic character, conversations with ceased always felt equal in a way. The writers at obsidian did a phenomenal job in the shirt time they had with the game. Far better than any modern Bethesda writer could pull out their ass

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Yeah it feels equal because he is willing to engage with what you say and treat it like a debate. Makes him feel like a living breathing person.

[@mydreamer3868]

This is how you make him the best villain not some stupid Father saying that we don’t understand.

[@jasonparker2616]

Caesar isn't THE villain, it just depends on which faction you side with.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Fallout 4 is truly terrible.

[@Neldonax]

I like the detail of Caesar thinking everything up on the spot, yet still making sound arguments. He isn't like the NCR, a cacophony of confused voices, or Mr. House, who i believe wrote down and thought a lot about what to say to you (i mean he hasn't been doing anything for 3000 years). Caesar is an excellent speaker, leader and tactician, unlike the other factions, he can get shit done. I mean man's doing so much doing his head started eating itself

[@sigmaaicore1652]

I want to see him have a conversation with Mr. House

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

That conversation would end with House being blown up.

[@sirmount2636]

Well-made video!

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Thank you!

[@caesar5593]

“My legionnaires will be more frightened of the commander behind them, than the enemy before them.” Just like the real Caesar on his campaign into Greece

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

I am pretty ignorant on Roman history.

[@maleexile9053]

The Roman civil war

[@LastofusEllie]

Patrolling the Mojave Desert almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter I still wonder why I couldn't drink nothing from my water canteen

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

LMAO

[@flasher6597]

"...Relax. I'm fucking with you."

[@sillygoose9791]

"These are for you, Courier. This one, is going up your narrow Profligate ass, and this bad boy over here is in your fucking eye"

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

I don't even know what to say to that.

[@SaintJames14]

Based.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

And Redpilled.

[@TacBans]

i remember once trying to talk to Caesar about his tumor before finishing the Brotherhood. it went something like this (paraphrased): "hey, we need to talk about what happened with you." 'we'll talk after you defeat the Brotherhood.' "yeah yeah, i'm being serious abou-" 'DID I STUTTER?'

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Caesar doesn't tolerate any nonsense.

[@not_ryuka]

i look forward to this every playthrough

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

It's definitely a great reveal. You hear him spoken about and built up and then you finally meet him surrounded by all his most fanatical supporters.

[@nopenothanks08]

I've always loved the detail of how things like caesar, or et cetera, are said. The mispronunciation is such a cool attention to detail imo

[@McDicker96]

It's the proper pronunciation for classical latin.

[@nopenothanks08]

@@McDicker96 wait, are you serious? Have i been fooling myself?

[@McDicker96]

@@nopenothanks08 In classical latin all "c"s make "k" sounds so "et ketera" would be the proper pronunciation.

[@nopenothanks08]

@@McDicker96 well shit, learn something new every day

[@lollikabosso.w.n7153]

Doesnt matter, if you like Caesar or not. Its still fun to be with him and listening to him.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Definitely some of the best dialogue ever written.

[@someguy9293]

I love the NCR more than the Legion. But I still love how Ceaser swears like a sailor.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Someguy

[@themrsaltysplatoon7100]

0.06 *BRAHMIN STEAK HAS WORN OFF*

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Don't want to talk to Caesar with a full stomach.

[@irrelevant1242]

I respect the hell out of Caesar himself yet I would never actually side with the legion because I believe mr house is the better alternative.

[@paulgallagher5092]

I want Scavs on the moon STAT.

[@fukcingweeabos3167]

>simping for some old ass boomer instead of rolling with caesar

[@irrelevant1242]

@@fukcingweeabos3167 no it would be more like simping for someone from the silent generation, boomers have done nothing worthy of respect whereas they fought and survived Ww2 - mr house was a pre war genius that not only survived but thrives and created a new civilisation from the ashes. Damn right I’m gonna simp for him.

[@SaintJames14]

I thought that siding with Yes Man would mean I get to make my own army and start conquering. So I chose that. But when I got to see the end credits and it was all "gambling, vices, terrible policing, riots, etc." I wept. Wiped that save and got shot by Benny again just so I could make it right on Caesar's side.

[@neverloggingout]

27:30 my life

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Relatable.

[@maleexile9053]

When degeneracy is promoted yes relatable

[@HR_PaperStacks]

Sit the fuck down, courier. You see this courier? You see them? *raises Middle Fingers* these are for you, courier. These are for you as long as it takes me to get even.

[@bigoof37]

All dislikes are ncr soldiers

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

NCR seething.

[@GabrielGarcia-eu6vr]

As far as writing and literary dialogue goes, this game is a work of art, a masterpiece.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Totally agree, it is a true masterpiece.

[@rigajykra3159]

I often forget how good it is. It feels like a great book of the western world in video game form. So much philosophy. There is no greater game.

[@monkeyskitz]

I remember when i first started new vegas and met the legion i thought it was pretty sloppy and weird of obsidian to have a load of nutters dressed as romans running about. But to then meet caesar and have him explain in detail exactly why they imitate rome? And have it make a vicious yet perfect sense? Absolutely stellar character building.

[@mksmike]

11:20 This coming from a Caesar that only imitates Rome's brutality and greed.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

He thinks he's doing these things for the greater good.

[@TheCakeIsNotLie]

I listen to him and think to myself to ally with Caesar for the first time in fuck-knows-how-many-years

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

The Legion run through is definitely the most fun.

[@shiny1556]

Not saying the Legion are the good guys, I am just saying they have some good points.

[@Satellite_Of_Love]

Ceaser's short-sightedness will be the reason it falls apart after his death. Unlike the more successful Emperors who made sure whoever followed them was fit to take over, Caesar instead plans to leave it to a brute who he knows is not on the same intellectual and charismatic level as he is. Lanius' military prowess amd brutality will only get him so far. The emperor Maximinus Thrax won the purple due to his military prowess and the loyalty of his legions. However, when power got to his head and he starting brutalizing his own men, they overthrew him. I can see the same happening to Lanius. Caesar's not preparing for the future, and that'll be the Legion's undoing.

[@shiny1556]

@@Satellite_Of_Love I agree, The Legion will fall apart as soon as Caesar’s death spreads. His unwillingness to industrialize aswell kills the Legion greatly and is quite possibly the reason the Legion failed to take the Dam in the first place. As you said aswell, Lanius is a awful successor with all in the legion hating him, even his own troops. If it wasn’t for Caesar’s loss of temper he may still have Joshua as a Legate and a actual viable candidate for succession.

[@SaintJames14]

If you believe history has "good guys" then you're not doing history. You're doing mythology. The Legion is the best choice for the Mojave out of what's offered.

[@shiny1556]

@@SaintJames14 but we aren’t talking about history, we are talking about a video game. The Legion are still generally the villains. They have good points but the game does make them out as the villains but not like 4 with how the Institute were with the whole “We do these things to help but you wouldn’t understand” thing.

[@SaintJames14]

@@shiny1556 no shit this is a video game. There's still history involved, but beyond that under what moral framework are you judging the Legion to be villains? The game's apparent lean? Then you're normalizing the moral frame the devs were using which is the western neoliberal democratic capitalist morality, so my point stands lmfao Same applies if you mean internal to the game as the NCR is literally the aforementioned moral frame. If not the game then what? You don't have to answer bc I'm correct regardless.

[@josefmengele181]

Absolutely love coming here tiime to time and get a good fix from philosophy

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Thank you Josef.

[@josefmengele181]

@@AlbertColeUnleashed anytime Albert

[@wyattmaness1151]

I just learned this is the same actor that played Major Rawls on The Wire. Fuck

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Never seen the Wire although people tell me it's one of the best shows ever. I'll check it out one day.

[@Glassandcandy]

33:14 One of the few instances of incorrect Latin in the game. It should read “in hoc signo tauri vinces” Taurus can only be the subject of the sentence, so when Caesar uses it here it sounds like direct address, that is to say, as if he is talking to a literal bull and saying to him “you, bull, will conquer under this banner” rather than the intended “under this banner of the bull, you shall conquer” Additionally, just as trivia for those who don’t know, the line is a famous Roman quote, it was allegedly heard by the emperor Constantine at the decisive battle of milvian bridge from God himself (the sign being the Christian Chi-Rho sign) as he was told to mark his men’s shields with the holy symbol to ensure their victory. He won decisively and thus began the process of converting Rome to a Christian empire under the edict of toleration. The fact that Caesar uses it here, in part to justify the return to a pagan cult of Mars, has a beautiful irony to it.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

I appreciate your knowledge of Latin.

[@somewhatreallycoolguy7439]

THIS is how to write a villain. every other writer tries to make their villain relatable and tragic, but this is what happens when a writer breaks the formula. Caesar is the most compelling villain i've ever encountered in a video game, maybe even in any form of media

[@TimtheEnchanter1121]

He's not a villain.

[@somewhatreallycoolguy7439]

@@TimtheEnchanter1121 ave, true to caesar

[@Kreia.]

Villain? I doubt that. Villains don't exist in Fallout, the closest thing you could get as a villain is Father Elijah from the Dead Money DLC.

[@TimtheEnchanter1121]

@@Kreia. Yeah, he's the only one who seems like a stereotypically evil villain, wanting to kill literally everyone for... What? But I suppose he is supposed to be absolutely insane. Yet still a genius, a mad genius.

[@Kreia.]

@@TimtheEnchanter1121 To understand Father Elijah, you must understand the human psychology first. He is a narcissist with OCD. He is pretty much obsessed with everything and reached to a point where he is no longer capable of thinking like a normal individual. He cares about nothing but his own goals, and he must achieve them in order to complete this quest of his. Only this way, he will gain the psychological relaxation which will end his mental suffering. He is also trying to prove himself. Not to everyone, just himself. That's the worst type of mental state someone ever could have. Losing everything you have and becoming a fool in front of everyone, spending too much time seeking something alone could do that to you. According to your logic, Caesar is a stereotypical villain who desires to destroy everything in his way because he read some books.

[@vicvinegar2067]

They would fuck it up somehow but a mini series about the history of the NCR and/or Legion would be so rad.

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

If it was made by the fallout lanius people it would be good.

[@mkratos17]

I don't remember having to help the omertas

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

It's from the mod Legion Quests Expanded. You can still do the quest to help the Omertas in the vanilla game, but it's hard to activate. Here, Caesar tells you to do it directly.

[@mkratos17]

@@AlbertColeUnleashed oh I see

[@jackmorrison1752]

Here I am sitting here smoking a blunt just listening to this man talk like a damn podcast the writing on this game wow

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

You can listen to this at the gym for motivation.

[@basedbattledroid3507]

Looks like Gunther from F.R.I.E.N.D.S. and sounds like John Goodman, I don't know why I find it so attractive.

[@maleexile9053]

John doman is the guys name

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Looks can be deceptive.

[@silvergraphz8458]

I love when I ruin all of Caesar's plans, go to the Fort after being given the safety conduct, grab Caesar's speech of hate towards you, and come back with Boone to finish off Caesar.

[@silvergraphz8458]

Hu Kares? More like, Who Cares.

[@cartervoltfire4933]

You are no longer well rested in the presence of Caesar

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

He keeps me up at night.

[@jameslynch2110]

Have you brought word of the boomers? "Yea they are cranky and say alot of stupid shit like being able to pay off college debt with a part time job"

[@AlbertColeUnleashed]

Boomers never change.