FALLOUT TV Series ENDING EXPLAINED | Story Breakdown, Season 2 Theories & Review | Prime Video

[@JBuckStudios]

UPDATE: Check out my full Easter Egg video HERE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJW5Yoduo6ljh80..... *I absolutely LOVED Fallout, one of the BEST video game adaptations in my opinion! What did you think of FALLOUT Season 1? What theories do you have for SEASON 2?*

[@moviedudez5788]

enjoyed it. The ending was too quick, thought there should have been 10 episodes

[@jonnym4670]

still doesnt explain how the lady who created cold fusion lived over 200 years

[@JBuckStudios]

@@jonnym4670 I think we were to assume she was frozen in a cryo-chamber

[@jonnym4670]

@@JBuckStudios I think she was wrote at the last second the mess with the enclave having her tech and all I think her mother was supposed to be the leader and Prime was like stick a chick in it and make her gay so they wrote her in last second to get dei approval

[@MiyanK]

@@jonnym4670 why she died so easily. if she servived 200 years. they messed the show

[@craigs71]

One easter egg that intrigued was the line where a character asked 'what experiment is going on in your vault?' (or something similar).

[@AlbertCastillo-vd6cz]

how is that a Easter egg

[@mysticfreeze2611]

More of foreshadowing then an easter egg

[@R4t_L0rd.02]

@@AlbertCastillo-vd6cz have you played the games

[@mr.neqtan]

Wonder if they know about the control vaults as well

[@MRDYNAMITEDAWG]

@@R4t_L0rd.02did you watch the show

[@Sunbum267]

Are we not going to mention the fact that the show confirms that Vault-tec canonically dropped the first bomb

[@PHANTASMGODD]

So sick

[@danielcarrera886]

So from what I understood Vault Tec, The Enclave, [possibly] The Institute, and every other major pre-war player are all the same fraction

[@canned_balls]

even tho cris avalon himself said china dropped the bombs first legit stated it in a post

[@JBuckStudios]

I think that’s the biggest official reveal. Always assumed they were connected, but yeah Vault-Tec be bad

[@mortagon1451]

This has been so heavily hinted at in the games that the reveal was inevitable sooner or later.

[@laloTav1972]

“The fall of shady sands” in 2277 is the decline after the first hoover damn battle which is referenced multiple times in new vegas, that things are going bad back home. It then points an arrow toward the bomb with no year about it, the chalk board is NOT saying shady sands was bombed in 2277, also maximus is literally about 6 years old in the flashback, Lucy and max are definitely supposed to be around 20/21 years old, which would line up with the city being destroyed in 2281 or the year or two after.

[@mp-xm6bq]

Could be that courier 6 chose to nuke shady sands at the end of lonesome road. That could be the cannon answer to the nuke. Somehow vault Tec persuaded him to do it

[@laloTav1972]

@@mp-xm6bq well Hank nuked shady sands, but I think season 2 will definitely confirm canon endings to new vegas and Lonesome road

[@t84t748748t6]

@@mp-xm6bq that was what i was thinking before i saw the last episode also the closing credits show broken down securetrons so it seem the courior went the dark time line

[@WeDontHaveToBreed88]

Lucy has to be around 25-26. She said up until she was 6 she believed the sun was real. And she stopped believing that after her mom 'died', which she thought was in a vault famine in 2277 and its 2296. Also the decade of um cousin stuff. I think you're right about Max's age, for a surface dweller he's still naive and acts like someone younger would. I'll agree the booms have to take place concurrent with New Vegas happening (2281) and now it's 15years later since that game's story. But everything is hazy there and we'll see hopefully Season 2

[@IzzetTempo]

So many people missed this and got so mad!! The sign outside Shady Sands also called it “The First Capital of the NCR” implying there were others. I think the “fall of shady sands” is when stuff started going south for the NCR, which we heard about in new Vegas. Then at some point the capital was moved, and THEN it was bombed some time after that. My theory anyway.

[@baboof2318]

Did they ever say how the main raider lady from before the war managed to survive that long? Was she also in Vault 31 or was she kept alive somewhere else?

[@JBuckStudios]

That was one of the small “plot holes” I noticed. I think we were to assume she was in a random cryo-chamber like Hank

[@Docmain3]

Didn't she say her company was absorbed by vault tec, thus getting a spot...

[@ApparentlyJade]

Her company was bought by vault-tec so I'm assuming she's considered high profile vault-tec staff and was also placed in Cryo.

[@cryptophoenix2023]

It was never stated, though I don't think it's that much of a plot hole. It's a mystery I'm wondering about as well, as it insinuates that there were other vaults with cryo pods. I think with Vault 31 being a cryo pod vault it is implied that she was frozen too, but that's all we can deduce--I bet Season 2 will provide an answer, since we are definitely not done with Cooper Howard's story, and he only just met Muldaver in Season 1. So, there's plenty of room to explain how she got there in Season 2.

[@DaiMie]

It look like they came from Cryo Pod.....if you don't mind being spoiled.

[@TheTrueAegonTargaryen]

Literally just finished it and WOW ITS AMAZING

[@JBuckStudios]

Sooooo good! I really enjoyed all of the storylines, espy the vault one

[@TheTrueAegonTargaryen]

@@JBuckStudios the vault storyline had me ON THROUGH EDGE. It really hit hard when it all came to light.

[@nowsmile790]

@@TheTrueAegonTargaryen yeah I honestly didn’t think a lot about it at first, but it really had me on edge.

[@Jeffrey_zeta]

Just finished it as well it is so amazing I loved it!

[@boy_with_sleeveless_jacket]

​@@JBuckStudios you sure it's not a bot

[@DarksideGmss0513]

I don't think they retconned anything. It's been stated by the show runners they aren't going to change anything about the endings of any if the games. Vegas is in ruin's most likely due to the aftermath of the Legion - NCR war.

[@crashnbyrne]

Just going to New Vegas will make it hard not to mess with the possible endings of that game.

[@flawlessgamer7549]

Just the ghoul stuff

[@ellis-ui9ue]

@@crashnbyrne Considering how messed up it looked, this might be the ending where the courier fucked up literally every faction.

[@mp-xm6bq]

@@ellis-ui9uethat’s what I was thinking. Lonesome road ending where he nuked NCR and Legion

[@Tonius126]

Tunnelers were poised to invade the mohave anyway. New Vegas also needed the tourist from the NCR, they were going to fall either way.

[@suspiciouschicken]

Dear old friends remember New Vegas

[@Yuta_Respecter]

Wow a Fallout TV show set on the West Coast! I cant wait to see what they choose to adapt! >NCR destroyed by plot >No Legion >Vegas destroyed >"Somehow the BOS has returned" > Shady Sands destroyed prior to NV >what sort of nation holds a military op when their captial is gone Its over Vegas bros, the house won

[@canned_balls]

actually ur wrong on a lot except ncr being destroyed everything in new vegas is retcon and even events and places in fallout 2 not to mention bc of the this the legion doesn’t even fucking exist nor do the dlcs and the lore we got hell even pre war lore we got from the games are retcon like vaultec didn’t drop the bombs nor did robert house know about westek experiments and was not appart of vaultec

[@JohnDoe-sl6di]

You forgot to mention the return of the enclave even though they got nuked in fallout 2 and annihilated by liberty prime in the third game. Bethesda shits on there own shitty lore

[@canned_balls]

@@JohnDoe-sl6di any enclave people that were left either wandered east or integrated into NCR after nevaro and any remaining during the shows time they are like old or fucking dead basically this show retcon all of 2 and nv in a span of 6 episodes

[@stirlinggerbic-forsyth3345]

​@@canned_balls any Enclave remaining in NCR territory fled, went into hiding, or was executed for engaging in attempted genocide. Hiding *yet another* Enclave base in NCR territory is ridiculous and it's "somehow Palpatine returned" levels of dumb

[@Ghost1828]

@@JohnDoe-sl6diyou’re it very clever

[@Mojavay]

Loved the series, however some big stuff wasn’t explained: >why the brotherhood is so big in the west coast all of a sudden >the master not being mentioned at all, pretty important cuz he looked for vaults in LA yet he didn’t find 33 or 4. >Shady Sands being in the city? In fallout 2 and 1 it was further out. >the boneyards 700000 citizens going nowhere?

[@dr.rockso2703]

They kinda hinted at why the east coast brotherhood is on the west coast in episode 1 when maximus gets the bounty. They say it comes directly from the commonwealth so it seems the brotherhood destroying the institute in fallout 4 is cannon and then they reconnected with the west coast factions.

[@saifag6685]

The master was long time ago so it make sense when ppl don’t mention him anymore (most likely he is considered a legend or a myth) Shady sands technically can be anywhere since the location in the show or the game didn’t pin point where it is.

[@zachsaccount323]

@@saifag6685 only reason it would make sense to talk about the master tho is bc he was such an integral part of shady sands history with the vault dweller and all, i also wished that they could have mentioned what happened to arroyo and the chosen one

[@saifag6685]

@@zachsaccount323 yes it would make sense but knowing the evet of the show happened in 2290sish i doubt ppl would talk about the master espacially since well shady sands was nucked. who knows maybe the events of New Vegas was what destoryed the NCR since NCR losing the second battle of hoover dam is canon.

[@warbossgrotsmasha23]

i have a feeling this brotherhood of steel chapter is from the midwest, they had airships and i wouldn't be surprised they made a move towards the west hearing about the ncr growing weak and vulnerable

[@nowsmile790]

One of the things I dislike about the fallout TV show that is minor, but so very irritating is that they don’t bring up any of the other cities that are power houses that should be thriving right now in the wasteland. Vault City, San Francisco, Arroyo. Hell even new Reno they don’t even bring up. Don’t get me wrong. I know they’re not mandatory but they’re very important locations that are very interesting to the series that expand the game is more than just wasteland. Bethesda has this obsession for some reason that every single thing that is any form of civilization has to go even if people want to keep it around. Also, also like somebody else pointed out if shady sands was bombed within 2277 fallout new Vegas can no longer be canon into the storyline.

[@dybixs1400]

All those cities would have been completely destroyed if they showed up. The whole west coast has now devolved 100+ years back thanks to this show a 1 guy who had the power to destroy a whole country

[@JahFries]

My first predictions when I first saw Shady Sands was I immediately thought it was the Courier 6 from the lonely road or it was from vault dwellers from 76 dropping bombs along the wasteland as they travelled. But the reveal of who did drop it blindsided me completely

[@dathunderman4]

What’s the reason for mentioning them? If there’s no story reason for mentioning those cities then they’re just Easter Eggs.

[@JahFries]

@@dathunderman4 because big business wants control

[@LyllianaofMirrah]

@@JahFries if shady sands was rly the divide, Lucy and Max should've encounter more ghouls more of that tunneler monsters and ofc the Marked men

[@Coasterteam]

my biggest question, who cleaned up vault 32??

[@JBuckStudios]

Exactly! Even more to the mystery

[@RCascade1996]

*SPOILER* I think the only possible answer is everyone living in 33 who were from vault 31.

[@mistahj7568]

Better question who did hank send to get his kids back for shady sands because he didn't just bomb Enclave maybe are robots remember there should be a f ton of robots

[@sparkeyjames]

@@mistahj7568 Yup missing protectrons. Also only one brain in a box aka a robo-brain and that from vault 31.

[@rickyesney2273]

Well first off the cryo chambers, thats setting up possibly a 3rd season. I remember someone mentioning in the series that their mother was a "courier" season 2 takes us to new vegas where, in the games the "courier" was the protagonist. The NCR seem to be the good guys in the series, you can get an NCR ending in new vegas. Hopefully we'll meet the great khans and caesars legion in season 2. As for how the story goes, don't know but can't wait.

[@JBuckStudios]

Ahhh that would be cool!

[@JahFries]

I really loved this show, It revealed, confirmed and made even more questions and theories. Did anyone else notice the mysterious strangers leaving the vault tec building?

[@alixritter9851]

Mr house ending is canon now guarenteed....ncr lost then was bombed by vault tec.....maxson will probably show up next season

[@rainbowsixODST]

Except…the timeline. Shady Sands was destroyed “BEFORE” the events of New Vegas and Vegas itself looks almost abandoned(which is not what you would expect if the House Always Wins was the canon ending).

[@corypowercat7277]

Why'd House let The Strip get bombed?

[@Ghost1828]

I’d imagine the minutemen are canon

[@Ghost1828]

@@rainbowsixODSThow 2077? 10 years after vegas

[@alixritter9851]

@@Ghost1828 well they said in the show that the commonwealth was in contact so if it destroyed they won

[@smellykelly2353]

Idk about the ending. How is it going to tie in with the endings from the games? What is technically "canon"?

[@leatherDarkhorse]

theres a chance maximus/lucy reboot ncr, cause the icon theme song only play on ncr.

[@LyllianaofMirrah]

plus the father and son doing lead farming wearing the iconic ncr ranger outfit

[@dwaynemason177]

And that was Eric Estrada, lol

[@17valleyforge76]

Here lately Amazon has not done well with shows needing a 2 season. Peripheral was a good show left off with a Clif hanger and they cancelled season 2. So I believe that companies need to film everything and then they can release it in seasons

[@scottthong9274]

Vault 32, what went wrong before the raiders came actually? Did i miss it

[@JBuckStudios]

They never fully mention it, but it’s assumed they figured out Vault 31 was manipulating everything with the frozen managers. Mutiny set in and they tried to escape. BUT there could be more to it because how the heck did Vault 32 get cleaned up so fast

[@jaimepena2052]

Is the Enclave the faction that secretely controls Vault-Tec?

[@JustAnotherAlex3D]

We can also get closure on what is canon for new vegas

[@AnneJudy-vq3rs]

11:21 um...the tabs...

[@Hunter5xx5]

When you think of fallout you think of the Ranger. Even when the father and son wore the armor they purposely made the helmet look stupid as a two piece. I honestly think this is a huge pr stunt to completely make people stop thinking of Obsidian's version of fallout and focus on their "cool because power armor" bos. They also confirmed the brotherhood survived in the Commonwealth in the first episode, so they basically control the whole country at this point according to the show. I had to stop and look up the timeline trying to figure out if shady sands being gone made sense. But 2277 is fallout 2. But what's confusing is in the strange NCR ritual in vault 4 they had a picture of the president in fallout nv!!!! I noticed it almost immediately. They never mentioned the strange Enclave base the old man runs away from either. It's like all of the NCR's feats have been erased from the timeline all in favor for the brotherhood. When you think fallout Bethesda wants you to think brotherhood and their games, not NCR and Obsidian's game.

[@zacharydavis8197]

Well, the Ranger helmets have always been two pieces, since it's impossible to put on without it. They are wearing it badly to show that they ARNT Rangers, but seems like they wanted to at least reference them. And I think your looking really far into this. I doubt they are trying to do this on purpose

[@BasedHorrigan]

They're setting up NCR to actually kick the BoS in the balls one last time, HELIOS ONE style.

[@Littlejohnnymarston1]

2277 is not fallout 2 it’s the first battle of Hoover dam and fallout 3

[@Hunter5xx5]

@@Littlejohnnymarston1 omg your right I'm a idiot lol. Thanks for pointing that out to me when I googled it last night some website said it was fallout 2. Don't trust the Internet lol. I just really hope the NCR isnt just gonna be this raider cult hybrid that we've seen so far.

[@saifag6685]

@@Littlejohnnymarston1holy shit that actually kinda explain the “fall of shady sands” since Caesar did talk about instability in the NCR.

[@AMGify]

Hey I have doubt, Howard's(ghouls) wife also a part of that shady sands right she said the plan of the bomb right?

[@SeanWMODonnell]

Robert House was in that vault Tec meeting, think we get an attack against new Vegas by Bos with liberty prime?

[@Executive_chicken_gentleman]

I think the first season was mostly made to get a. Understanding of our characters and their motives as well as raise questions I hear a lot of people say the show changes the Lore or has too many plot holes but considering how far into the future it is since we last seen the ncr or the enclave in this world that's always changing and we're not exactly viewing the story from the perspective of somebody who knows much about the interworkings of the wasteland Maximus has spent most of his life in the lower ranks of the brotherhood the goal probably has more information than anybody but he's on his own specific mission and our vault dweller obviously has the least information on what's going on I don't know I'm losing track of my thought but I'm really excited for season 2 it's going to go so crazy pulling all these plot threads together

[@louskywalker9656]

Stephanie's last name is Hawthorne. That says so much

[@JBuckStudios]

Oooohh dang! Great catch

[@realLagMaster]

Vault 21 was one of the bigger vaults and it's literally on the strip. It's experiment was that all conflicts to be solved through gambling

[@maartent9697]

Also Maximus his backstory is the same as the kid you find in the fridge in Fallout 3, atleast the scene of him getting out of the milk fridge.

[@_shades_2599]

I’m so happy we know who vault boy was in real life that’s pretty cool trivia and maybe we’ll see other of his cowboy movies in games moving further

[@cylus13]

I personally think that Cooper's wife is in vault 31 as one of the mangers as she had mentioned in to cooper out by the pool. The daughter might be dead or maybe if Cooper's wife left the vault, might of had her reprinted as a sinth. That one does not have enough clues for me yet. And it you be just like Bethesda to have you run back and forth to complete a quest.

[@iceydicey77]

Makes more sense for somone we know to be in control of new vegas rather than the courier so it doesn't ruin what path our courier took specifically and better that certain characters appear to give nods or easter eggs about the player

[@Rgonzo490071981]

Great video,. Just what I wanted and expected.. great verbal breakdown of all the crucial story elements in a reasonable amount of time,.

[@Rgonzo490071981]

Just subscribed!

[@Mike_The_Hog_A_Nator]

Ole Coop is sporting that Stetson like R. Givens in Justified.

[@JMO898]

Wait why didn’t the ghoul just kill t60 armor when he first pulled up in philly but at the end my guy took out like 4 armors down with the knowledge he had of the suits

[@freeatleast]

I liked the in game vehicles in the flashbacks, but didn’t like that there were none out in the world. I’m also unsure if finally identifying that vault tech were responsible for the war is a good idea or not. I am however looking forward to season 2!

[@wurzella1]

I wouldn't say they confirmed who dropped the first bomb, just that vault tech were willing to do it if nobody else did.

[@freeatleast]

@@wurzella1 that’s true. I guess we’ll see if they did and if they can pull off another really good season.

[@hendrawan1369]

if they introduce new vegas and im 100% sure that house appears on season 2 i think fnv ending is with house ending

[@JBuckStudios]

That would be my guess. It’s weird because the games have multiple endings so they’ll have to pick a canon one

[@BigBootyDuty]

@@JBuckStudios As long as the Courier shows up in Ranger Armor for a tiny cameo, I'll be happy.

[@yaboitheredux]

@@BigBootyDutythe ganon family tesla armour would be better imo

[@devinc9]

Its written on the white board, a mushroom cloud in place of 2281

[@sigmasauce-tg9gj]

11:16 Why has no one said that he had fallout rule 34 open?!?

[@jayalon566]

Retconned the best fallout game and a single man destroyed an entire nation. I hope they at least have some NCR remnants other than that weak final fight, didn't even get to see a ranger.

[@rainbowsixODST]

Oh we saw “the rangers”. The father and son pair. And they looked dumb as hell. This was Bethesda taking a steaming dump all over the Obsidian lore.

[@XanderJones55]

I think Max's arc is gonna be rebuilding the NCR. This allows 1. NCR to be the de facto good guys due to the viewer's connection with Max. And 2. This allows Bethesda to reset thr NCR in their own image

[@BasedHorrigan]

​@@XanderJones55exactly, finally someone acknowledges that NCR was actually tippin on the dark side in NV. This is a clean start for the faction.

[@barewitness2281]

@@BasedHorriganyeah idk why people are sad abt this brotherhood has always slaughtered NCR in any fallout installment lmfao and they were no better than the brotherhood too

[@BasedHorrigan]

@@barewitness2281 And also, the NCR was kinda shitting on everyone in NV, including House. Like they were the ones holding Hoover Dam come on.

[@Griffin-rh1cu]

Vault tec may have worked with china to drop the bombs in fallout 3 the megaton nuke has a vault tec logo but at the same time their is a chinese submarine in fallout 4 Yangtze

[@SteelPanzer]

Bruh, even New Vegas looks destroyed. Bethesda really hates Obsidian and Fallout NV.

[@JBuckStudios]

😂😂

[@marcoslopez832]

It looks like it’s still up tho. It was a distant shot from over a sunset horizon. And it’s 16 years after nv. So things have def changed

[@JBuckStudios]

@@marcoslopez832 I'm curious if they rebuilt

[@dathunderman4]

If they hated NV they wouldn’t have put Vegas on the show and instead act like it never existed (but there were numerous references to NV). NV is my favorite game but my god do NV fans have the biggest victim mentality in the gaming world.

[@adhirajb]

Bethesda and Obsidian are sister studios now. The team leads and directors in both studios respect each other's work. Stop BSing and looking up stuff from twitter

[@Themistocles30]

Cooper also mentions something about the T-45... Shame we did not see the bos use the t45 and t51 since they are the best looking.

[@npierce14]

Ok one thing that doesn’t make since is if vault 32 got destroyed 2 years prior management had to have known and idk why they would open the doors to 32 for Lucy to get married

[@weybye91]

Yes that also doesn't make sense, unless the management knew, and hopes it was one of the icecubes from 31

[@boooop4340]

Remember the “management” of vault 31 is just a roomba with a brain that opened vault 31 to a stranger not far fetched he opened 32 as well

[@Loganberry]

Love that they showed the Junk Jet

[@jellymaster123]

I'm almost 100% positive they're going to introduce Mr house

[@RoyLevan]

He’s in the show. Just a quick cameo but he’s there already

[@Docmain3]

Ole Robert was literally at the meeting scene of the big wigs.

[@Thagomizer]

I'm almost 100% positive they'll butcher him.

[@Tony27654]

*Spoilers* Shady sands being nuked in 2277 definitely doesn’t line up with the lore of Fallout NV at all, NV takes place in 2281 and Shady Sands is still up and running fine. They definitely retconned the f*ck out of it. What a shame.

[@weybye91]

But shady sands is not a big town, only a few houses, while here it's a big fucking town. So it would make sense, if they shift the timeline around

[@hieutruong7456]

@@weybye91Shady sands is a large city in the second game

[@weybye91]

@@hieutruong7456 my bad, but as I have said in other comments, they might have shifted the timelines, to fit the story better. Cause if all other games are reconed why show new Vegas

[@rainbowsixODST]

@@weybye91Because the fans love New Vegas. This is typical Bethesda bullshit. They are steal seething mad that Obsidian made New Vegas, which was better than anything they have released story wise. They have long wanted a way to “fix” this and now they have. Oh we will still get “New Vegas” it’ll just be the fucked up version that Bethesda craps out. I loved this show, I am excited for season 2 but still FUCK BETHESDA!!!

[@canned_balls]

they retcon fallout 2 and 1 aswell and even pre war lore

[@ktm6668]

The Ghouls Family is in VAULT 31, she was a High Worker in Vault Tec an she said alot of times her Family( ghoul and child) gets in the oveseer Vault Which is Vault 31

[@patfanortiz8973]

I bet season 2 has the courier running new Vegas with yes man. The end credits images might allude to this with the dead security bots

[@Thri11craft]

Lol dude this series is perfect for the return of webisodes lol I would love to see occasional short visits back to the wastelands of new Vegas

[@dirtyhorrorpodcast4621]

I just binged the whole season and loved it!!

[@deeel5692]

I hope they have the budget for 12 episodes next season with a nice budget.

[@LibertyPrime6969]

I can hear Jerry 😂in that Overseer.😂

[@britinpoland2392]

Loved the series! Have been a big fan of the games for many years now…started with Fallout 2 back in the day (of course went back to 1 later!) The style was very in tune with the Bethesda games for sure… Though anyone else think they made Power Armour…well a bit too powerful? 😅 Personal hope for future seasons is more of a focus on the Enclave, would love them to delve into their history from the first bombs being dropped to present timeline!

[@greggknapp3450]

Ok I know for a fact you didn’t watch the whole series because I started it at 12 am and just finished it😭😭💯

[@UlyssesM]

same bro lol 3am just finished it

[@wtfmanicanthaveaname]

Goodmorning Ghoulia, I built this house myself from the crown molding to the 200 ceiling fans. Thats the kinda ghoul youre getting.

[@peckneck2439]

I freaking dare them to bring back Caesar's Legion into the season 2. Come on let's go. Let's see audience's reaction to a faction like this.

[@kiidmarzgamez1602]

Yeah the az cardinals uniforms will go hard !!!

[@felisasininus1784]

I wish to see more monsters too, but if the budget can't be spared for that much CGI or maybe even animatronics (prolly not), then I'd rather they'd just do what they did, and use CG monsters sparingly. The first season is such a compelling story, and story is exactly what matters the most imo.

[@Patrick1985McMahon]

I hope they can add more episodes per season. 12 would be amazing. 8 just wasn't enough.

[@ronaldmcdonald3340]

Bro so is the best game new Vegas not cannon now or what bc of shady stands being destroyed in 2277 and fnv taking place in 2281, also new Vegas looks kinda destroyed idk if thats what they were trying to show but if it is that makes the events of fnv meaningless and thats a problem for me

[@rainbowsixODST]

I’m a terribly afraid that that is exactly what just happened. They said the show “wasn’t for fans” and now we see what they meant. This just retconned New Vegas to its core. Enjoy the game because there will not be a “true sequel” to it. Bethesda for all intent and purpose just tossed the Obsidian lore away.

[@zaab-yaoh9302]

Y'all upset about something we already knew for years, Bethesda never made it a point to include NV into their lore because it was never meant to be. They are just saying the quiet part out loud. Just accept it move on. This is the way

[@XanderJones55]

I don't understand all the NV complaints...it states in NV that the NCR is crumbling....Shady Sands having a downfall in 2077 doesn't mean it was in ruins, simply that things were coming apart, then it was bombed sometime later, but they didn't put a definitive date over the mushroom cloud on the board. NV being destroyed at the end, also shows downed NCR aircraft which denotes a struggle in the area at a time still unstated, so the only thing that is ACTUALLY messed up was the amalgamation of the Boneyard and Shady Sands...right?

[@Eagl3xStrik3]

Nuked after, city was a shadow if itself before the nuke

[@onewontdo]

Cry about it.

[@Dranx9031]

I hope to see the courier in season 2

[@1800imawake]

The hidden messages in this series are genius. Quantum irony.

[@ZoglerRandomiel]

I liked the show a lot, many goods things about it, from the small details to the overall tone. But i do not like how they seem to change or implicate stuff about lore that happened in the games. I guess we can just have it be a different/alternate setting than the game. After all what is canon is personal to each and every one of us players, based on what we did in the games.

[@paladinpaterson5385]

The reveal that VaultTec dropped the first bomb is HUGE. Even the Enclave (the US government) thinks that China dropped the first bomb! One of my favorite parts about this show was that Mr House (CEO of Roboco) was in the room with all of the other corpos when they decided to drop the first bomb. I think this season was amazing but next season is going to be very divisive for fans. The best part of the ending of Fallout: New Vegas is that it's been very open-ended at this point in the story. With Howard and Lucy going to New Vegas to find her dad, we are going to find out many things. If Lucy's dad is going to New Vegas, it means that Mr House might still be alive. If that's the case then we are going to settle once-and-for-all if The Outer Words is a sequel sage to the Fallout franchise. I mean, Microsoft now owns Bethesda and Obsidian at this point which means they own Fallout and the Outer Worlds!

[@Tonius126]

No, the chinese beat them to it. They just subbotaged peace talks and convince the USA to for for Beijiing even though Alaska was long retaken. Switchboard in fallout 4 confimred that china launched first.

[@survivalhax6594]

Honestly i had very little faith in this show when i first heard about it ive been a fallout fan forver and i thought the live action couldnt be good but man was i wrong they captured the series very well it felt like fallout quests i would definitely recommend this to most people

[@EDTheOneable]

This show turned out great.

[@JBuckStudios]

Bring on season 2!

[@oriontheraptor8119]

The comments are making my head spin in confusion

[@EverythingHenry]

So lore rich. What the paramount halo series should have been!!

[@MrTruthseeker1776]

Should have said “crack a nuka-cola” 😂

[@nightdust4280]

So what happened in fallout nv isn't cannon anymore? That sucks

[@JBuckStudios]

Well it might kinda sorta be, but also this is 16 years after the events of that game

[@TheTrueAegonTargaryen]

It looks like the NCR got nuked to hell after new Vegas, so New Vegas must be thriving and is probably significantly better than how we saw it after New Vegas.

[@awesomecomputers7076]

If the show writers aren't straying from old lore, then it's likely the NCR had its way in fallout NV which made Mr. House mad. So I'm going on a stretch here, but it's possible that mr. house was the guy who ordered shady sands to get nuked. Also the NCR wasn't exactly in the best state of affairs during NV, they weren't on the verge of collapse but they were overextended. I do hope that the NCR makes a resurgence in season two but I honestly doubt that'd happen knowing the writer. All things considered though, it's a fun show and a good adaptation of the more recent fallout games in my opinion.

[@noitskathelyn]

is there an actual canon new vegas ending??

[@ferret3423]

@@noitskathelyn No but the game happens, which is why the capitol of the NCR getting nuked 4 years prior is a big fuck you to New Vegas.

[@Makoto03]

I enjoyed the Fallout show alot. So excited to see New Vegas in season 2.

[@bartonlynch]

Loved the show! Disappointed that Three Dog was not in it.

[@foxmulder8139]

Wrong Coast for Three Daaaaaawg to show up

[@joeygrant3983]

This guy feels like a new fallout fan

[@leedex]

Finished the show in two days and decided to give Fallout 4 another run 🏃

[@dal2122]

Bio shock tv show would be awesome too

[@Str8Rippin93]

Yesss!!

[@WallabytheThumper]

If I had to be honest I think Maximus’ story line was disappointing but still a great premier for Fallout

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

What's to explain? It's Retcon City all over again.

[@secretagentcat]

fallout player cope. ur just mad things are different

[@nipsynuggets4930]

@@secretagentcat of course we are mad things are different, because Bethesda doesn't have any media literacy, and zero respect for the source material.

[@sluumppp]

@@secretagentcatnone of it add ups anyways but ok sped

[@secretagentcat]

@@sluumppp fallout is a fantasy rpg, keyword 'fantasy'. stop acting like things over 10 years old will stay the same.

[@sluumppp]

@@secretagentcat it already has lore that ties everything up , they changed it for no reason

[@Pahricida]

Shady Sands became the NCR if this show deviates from that it IS NOT Fallout.

[@Thagomizer]

Right. The NCR isn't just Shady Sands in the same way that the U.S. isn't just Washington D.C.

[@Pahricida]

@@Thagomizer I rescued Tandi, talked to her again 80 years later and fought at Hoover Fam I know 😉

[@frankstrong9178]

3 episodes in and maybe my favorite show since TLOU

[@canadiangamer3807]

Maybe it will be like a walking dead series. Same story with some changes to it different antagonist every two maybe three seasons. So first couple seasons enclave then maybe the other half the institute

[@chrismatteson1312]

They could get years of content out of the Ghoul alone.

[@jimmyolsenblues]

i loved this tv show. i never played the game, i thought the vault tech/conspiracy 31 very good stuff. maybe nod to section 31 of star trek lol.

[@sparkeyjames]

The only thing not making an appearance in the series so far is the super mutants. I'll bet season two will have something about them in it. Though rounding up a bunch of 6ft8in actors is going to be tough. Now that Vault Tec has been named as the source of the start of the war it is going to be Canon from here on out. The conspiracy between all the major corporate players is new. The destruction of the Republic of California can be cross referenced to the Fallout New Vegas DLC The Divide. The ending scene is the father approaching the remnants of Las Vegas. We won't know about WHO controls Las Vegas until next season or beyond. Oh and as to the Gulpers those were prevalent in the Fallout 4 DLC Far Harbor. How they made it to both coasts is something not yet revealed. SPOILER: The three big reveals are 1: Vault Tec Started the war. 2: The conspiracy between the other major corporations and Vault Tec 3: Where all the executives of those corporations went when the 2077 war started.

[@hypermonk33y56]

are we going to meet mr house?

[@JBuckStudios]

Fingers crossed

[@jasonpeacock9735]

Episode 8

[@weybye91]

1 minor thing, why are vault 31-33 connected, since all otjer vaults are seperate vaults And another thing, how the fuck can they make man made ghouls, I thought it was due to radiation and not drugs. And your wrong about the Institute, since they are based out of Boston Massachusetts, and nor California. Unless the Institute is former enclave members that moved to Boston, but I highly doubt that

[@Nugget04]

It’s explained in the show as an experiment.

[@weybye91]

@@Nugget04 32 lost their food, but beyond that it's not explained, beyond giving quick access to the cryo tubes for new overseers

[@PHANTASMGODD]

The “serum” was just extremely radiated most likely. His skins not gonna change instantaneously obviously

[@mortagon1451]

Everything is explained in the show.

[@chuckchuck4016]

31-33 act as an HQ for vault tec

[@arune_gaming1061]

Dang nabbit!! It would have been so cool to have Matthew Perry play a role for season 2. Rest in peace, you magnificent bastard!

[@JohnDoe-sl6di]

Also rene auberjonois aka Mr house. Rip

[@foxmulder8139]

Benny would be long dead IF they follow The Courier's lore of getting revenge in NV

[@SifisoMathebulaV86]

About to watch it, I must confess yes I have had multiple times to play the games 😢just never had. Feeling somewhat guilty over here, I should fire the first two games at least.

[@beans3170]

Imagine if his wife and kid are living in vault 21

[@TheLeedgelodge]

All im saying is that whoever did the CGI on Lucy's dads face during the flashback when hes "young" needs to be fired. Otherwise great season overall

[@oakinson1585]

Yall can’t run from this show it’s canon. It messed up the timeline and retcon Fallout new Vegas out of existence, the game that kept people interested in this series before fallout 4. Think of all the great characters from New Vegas Father Elijah, Joshua graham, Benny, Veronica, Boone, Gannon how many more none of it matters they don’t exist and yall can’t pretend this show ain’t canon cause the games are now are gonna follow this timeline of events now so fuck fallout 5 too and whatever after.

[@zaab-yaoh9302]

dawg the game still exists, you can go play it right now :)

[@corypowercat7277]

Maybe if Todd sees how angry we get maybe he'll change it?

[@Ghost1828]

They didn’t retcon it did they

[@barewitness2281]

@@Ghost1828no people are stupid, they saw that it says 2277 then AFTER they bombed it, they think it says it was bombed in 2277 it’s crazy how many people don’t know how to read a timeline lmfao ITS CALLED A TIME - LINE

[@Ghost1828]

@@barewitness2281 like the shows said to be 10 years AFTER fallout 4 so how could it take place in 2277? These people aren’t very clever

[@Thomasfoolery69]

I feel like chet is gonna turn into some psycho or bad ass killer

[@R4t_L0rd.02]

did anyone pick up on bethesda poking fun at theyre npcs dialogue with some of the conversations between the vault dwellers? if not go back watch those vault scenes again and i promise itll make you laugh

[@Beattheodds-c2r]

Tbh i don't think vault tec dropped the first bombs even though its implied remember the ghouls wife worked for vault tec and we see when the bombs drop he's caught completely off guard and his wife being a ceo off vault tec guaranteed their spot in a vault

[@wurzella1]

Someone at the birthday asked how they got Cooper Howard and he answered alimony, so I assume that means they got divorced. Still doesn't explain why she would let Janey go with her father when she knows the bombs are going to drop. I think they were just letting us know vault tech were ruthless enough to start the holocaust if nobody else did.

[@foxmulder8139]

It could make sense that China dropped bombs in major areas and Vault-Tec decided to drop the rest to achieve their goal and blame China for all of them

[@foxmulder8139]

It's also implied that Coop and his wife were split up as one guy says Coop is doing the cowboy gig to help pay alimony, maybe the wife didn't expect that Coop and their daughter would be so close to a blast radius

[@kathyvallejo7884]

They should make Fallout 5

[@RampidWarthogStudios]

The show was awesome. But why didn't the lady just take hanks kids too. Dosnt make sense

[@SausageWardog]

Im gutted mathew perry will not reprise his role as benny 😢

[@foxmulder8139]

I doubt Benny would be in the show IF they follow the lore of The Courier getting revenge

[@markmorris6721]

I think it could’ve been better if they should people falling out of things more. The show is called fallout. How often do that actually happened?

[@Vaultboy-qi5bu]

I give it a 10/10

[@martinroosjen]

Moldaver synth? Anyone?