Luna's Howl is Basically an Exotic

LUNA'S HOWL drops today in Destiny 2! Luna's Howl is the newest Hand Cannon in the INTO THE LIGHT Brave Arsenal (Blast Furnace also drops today, more on that later). Here's my official review of the new Luna's Howl, and its unique perk, Magnificent Howl! It's gonna go HARD in PVP and do respectably well in PvE (Incandescent / Heal Clip is hard to beat)
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[@FalloutPlays]

Mag Howl: kind of a meme in PvE, but that 2-tap potential is oh so sweet in PvP. Things gonna go hard for sure. In PvE just go for Heal Clip / Incan, no one will question you there 😄 Also, check this pinned comment later today. As mentioned, I would bet any amount of money re: Slideshot NOT pre-emptively proccing Mag Howl and being the go-to perk in Column 3. I will update the comment when I get one with Slideshot / Mag Howl to confirm 👍

[@mr.shlikem7448]

wouldn't T steps simulate slideshot?

[@DafTacoustics]

Would you bet having to wear the conductor hat on stream for the remainder of the year? 🙏

[@Dragoon200022]

you are able to autoload with tsteps as well without proc'ing mag howl with nf and lunas so unless they change it when new lunas goes live that is also a option and slideshot would 100% be able to load without proc'ing the perk.

[@vampirelordx1]

Na fam. Go for the the heal clip kill clip wombs combo.

[@Plag-Dmon98]

Sad mag howl isn't good in PvE

[@Forcer69]

Hawkmoon: “Indeed.”

[@BBCsandwich]

Not Hawk moon " indeed " More like f***** "indeed"

[@Pankake]

Remembering the times when Hawkmoon used to be able to 1-tap 😢

[@brandondennis7527]

@@Pankake It still can, can't it?

[@naylor7495]

@@Pankakei believe if you acquire this thing called skill, you can still 1 tap with the hawk

[@notchs0son]

Indeed hawk

[@heyyou9472]

luna's howl exotic perk - the thing that kills people effect: it kills people

[@solace2005]

At least it kills people

[@Lrbearclaw]

4:00 - Personally, I want Mag Howl and Subsistence for that reason. Give more ammo back for kills could give you more time to get kills before reloading.

[@CaptainKush420]

Watch them synergize and you get 2 Mag Howl bullets back on a kill

[@jesseritchie9282]

​@@CaptainKush420Imagine?

[@zeffyeer]

You can also restore those shots with Tsteps if you play Warlock, or Strand Grapple with Aspect if you care enough about getting the shots back Edit: you can still use Subsistence tho, just showing alternatives😅

[@jesseritchie9282]

@@zeffyeer You dirty guardian. I love it!

[@zeffyeer]

@@jesseritchie9282 Magnificent Howl go brrrrrr

[@MythicMagus]

I have a heal clip + incandescent "Darkest Before" and I LOVE that thing. Definitely want a Luna with that stuff on it. Howl + Subsistence is the other PvE roll I want to mess with. Dumping a clip of only Howl bullets into a boss could be pretty good.

[@ReZoIution]

THE GUN AIN'T OUT YET FALLOUT! (Edit: Guns out now :3)

[@mikecampbell1669]

Lunas and NF are both still in the game, and Magnificent howl was already changed, this is just speculation on the new version with other perks

[@ReZoIution]

@@mikecampbell1669 I will makeout with you

[@TheDaveCave_]

If only someone actually watched the video. There’s zero chance Fallout talks about that. I guarantee it.

[@JinYasha]

This is what I’ve been the most excited for!

[@Haseo2541]

This is the version that came from comp back in the day

[@nireas570]

The thumbnail brought back so much memories. First Fallout vid I saw was of a godroll Bygones back in Forsaken. Love you dude. Keep making awesome vids.

[@dapresson5133]

Heal clip and Incan is bout to go crazy in onslaught isnt it

[@Kideem]

yup, my pyrogale titan build boutta go even more crazy

[@KillaManReaper2]

Probably. I personally like my laouli's. But free cure x2 for yourself and cure x1 for your allies does seem kind of nice.

[@EggyWeggyIII]

Maybe, I’d say just run eyes or double specials and you’d get way more value but it could be interesting.

[@tayloranderson1993]

Yessiiirrrrr

[@MrMilks_]

no. zaoulis bane is better

[@Kreau]

I just started playing again after taking a break back in June and my god the content creators have been hitting their strides. Good to be back!

[@CarlosGarcia-ov8sr]

Me too let’s do raid tomorrow

[@CFEKOSMOS]

I want a luna with heal clip and magnificent howl. I love heal clip, and that 50% damage buff sounds really juicy. Definitely gonna be grinding for that roll.

[@bekindrewind15]

Definitely going for encore and magnificent howl

[@jakenotjake899]

i miss old magnificent howl and the 180 round per minute, shit was fire

[@shadowfoxprower4412]

Yeah they should have changed it back to its original rate of fire if they’re going to change magnificent howl.

[@Black2overlord]

I don’t 😭 that mixed with OeM, and Flawless execution made for the most stale and obnoxious PvP scene outside of people finding out that shatter dive was broken asf 😂

[@This_Pleases_The_Nut]

​@@Black2overlordAs if pvp isn't stale with everyone using Handcannons 24/7 😹

[@nathanflinchum1153]

@@shadowfoxprower4412I’m so glad it’s not 180, they need like 50% more damage to be worth a damn in pve, plus a 140 with precision recoil and AE bonus is just awesome

[@Zevox144]

Specifically for pve. Shit would have stacked so good with lucky pants.

[@innocuous526]

i absolutely fell in love with this gun and its backstory when it originally came out, i doubt it will leave me loadout in both pve and pvp

[@ringomandingo1015]

Going to the moon to stomp some Hive never felt so good after reading the lore

[@snowboundwhale6860]

Heal clip seems like it'd be a good compliment to mag howl since both trigger from reloading shortly after a kill. The cure should make it easier moving quickly between shootouts.

[@shredstein]

Been saving all my shaxx rep and engrams for this moment 🙌

[@patyolo9627]

Still going for that heal clip + incandescent roll, love that combo on this season pulse, I just need it on this hand cannon and side arm

[@shadowfoxprower4412]

Enlightened action and precision instrument will be interesting roll that I will go for.

[@OpinionatedCabbage]

Really enjoying the shiny Shaxx gives you with Tusk of the Boar

[@iShieldMaiden]

can't wait to grind for it!

[@bozo6049]

I've been a PvE Handcannon main since d1 release, and I'm very happy with how they feel rn.

[@Tromboo]

Slideshot opening with the recoil direction goes crazy

[@Dei-Noor]

I actually will be using MagHowl in PVE mostly for the casual adclear in legend final shape. Could be fun to build some stacks and tear through some reds.

[@brianhunt914]

Love my heal clip incandescent IG hammer! Such a weapon. But the faster reload on Luna could be really good.

[@LyuSapphire]

Gotta love the footage of you still destroying with the gun, but constantly having the reflex to attempt reloading after a kill, only to cancel it upon remembering how the perk works. I can tell that despite how good the perk is, it will take some time fighting against muscle memory lol

[@Barber00117]

Dude fallout…. You’re so close to 1mil subs. Keep going for it bro!!!

[@thababybeastsz]

Inlove that not forgotten will still ne better in lightfall imma love it

[@talion4033]

Got a shiny Luna with encore and mag howl for my first legend onslaught drop after the update. I think I’m set, range masterwork too

[@Ima9ineBreak3r]

I'm thinking a subsistence desperate measures roll might be really good for a lucky pants hunter. Either that, or something with heal clip and/or precision instrument

[@TehBakerye]

Luna's was my absolute favorite hand cannon and I'm prepared to grind for hours just to get the roll I want

[@nathanddrews]

I've been loving Epochal Integration with Stats For All / Incandescent. I'm not sure I've switched off my solar Titan build all season... I'm curious where Luna will fit in since I don't really play any PVP. If it could roll with Incandescent / Howl, that would be amazing.

[@rameseO]

The additional part of the Mag-Howl perk, the increased range, is something worth noting... not 100% testing accuracy, but magic bullets are hitting at 40m range using Not Forgotten... so the range stat must be well beyond 100...

[@Technizor]

You thinking it's a range scalar like Killing Wind?

[@rameseO]

@@Technizor Could very well be that, seems like a ~25% range boost, might depend on the current range stat, but could just be a flat bump...

[@stephbenson7340]

The curated Luna's the quest gives you is serviceable for PvP, with Eye of the Storm and Magnificent Howl. Probably what I'll keep for PvP purposes. I'm going to use Heal Clip Incandescent for PvE, though, especially since I want it for Ember of Benevolence.

[@DukeOfCarolina]

Can you make a video speculating on what Tesselation will do once the Prismatic sub class combinations drop with Final Shape. The exotic perk is the gun's element matches your equipped subclass. Do you think this will end up being some wild new exotic weapon with Final Shape?

[@DatboiZyion]

This may be one of the best hand cannons in the game now, as it’s perk poll is great for both PvP and PvE

[@testme242]

There are better HCs than Lunas for PvP. MH is not viable in comp or trials. 6s sure it can be fun. The chances of 2 HS kills to 2 tap a 3rd guardian is incredibly rare.

[@Plag-Dmon98]

​@testme242 it being a 140 precision will be the reason it's going to be strong in 3s, it's going to be super easy to kill with because it's pure vertical recoil that barely moves, eye of the storm precision instrument for 3s and you'll probably wreck

[@DatboiZyion]

@@testme242 I’m looking at Luna’s in the sense that it has handful of good PvP perks, as well as some good PvE perks. It has a good deal of options to choose from

[@testme242]

​@@DatboiZyionfor sure tbh I see it better on the pve side. I'll be grinding for that Healing Clip and Incandescent roll

[@ryanrobins945]

Definitely not PvE Zaoli's is still better legendary wise. If you play right, you don't need heal clip. Also incandescent is pointless this season.

[@terences5236]

Getting Luna’s Howl when it first came out took an entire season. (almost 3 months ) Then it took me weeks to master it. Then it got Nerfed one week afterwards. I was salty about that for a while. I just reacquired it… and it’s OK. In fact, the best part about acquiring this weapon was realizing how good Crimson was in the crucible . 😂

[@Shwampi]

Going for the shiny Luna's with: Column 1: Arrowhead/ Fluted Column 2: Ricochet / Flared Column 3: EotS/ Heal Clip Column 4: Mag-howl/ Incandussy Masterwork: Range or Handling I'm probably asking too much from RNJesus but hey, if we grind, we grind

[@grapes7767]

If there ever is a destiny 3 I do think that Luna’s howl would work as an exotic instead of a legendary, the gun has a story and everything, not to mention an upgraded version of the magnificent howl perk would be awesome

[@bradrizzo3950]

I totally forgot about holster mods, thanks

[@Ya_Boy_Cheech]

Pulled my not forgotten out and smacked oj every one on one. A beast is a beast

[@jman4293]

I received the slideshot/mag howl perk combo and it is great! Just wish I could aim better lol

[@aLousyBum83]

This might cause some problems. Although a shadow of its former self. I remember the grind to get this back in the day, and the pure menace it was. I loved it! 🤣

[@brandondennis7527]

The base gun given to you by Shaxx is a God roll, and it's nuts. Went 4.25 with it my first game. Of note, Transversive Steps will let you get ammo back without procing magnificent howl.

[@KillaManReaper2]

Pve roll for me is going to be 2 different ones. Magnificent howl subsistence and incandescent something. Was thinking heal clip. Right now it doesn't seem like a good perk, but once this season ends and we lose the artifact I think heal clip will become more viable then it potentially already is. Honestly the first perk column leaves a lot to be desired for me since I only ever go into pvp when I have to.

[@nathanflinchum1153]

Enlightened action is genuinely amazing for Lunas on paper. You can max reload stat with flared magwell and max stacks of enlightened action, which literally only requires landing bullets

[@KillaManReaper2]

@@nathanflinchum1153 I will get a ton of roll of this weapon and that does sound really nice. I kind of wish they would have put more options in the first perk column that, for me at least, are better for pve, but I guess in the long run luna's is mainly a pvp weapon.

[@CupUhhJo]

I need that heal clip incandescent roll in my life. And I’m absolutely dog water in PVP but slideshot mag howl does sound kinda funny to play

[@IASEAGLE5]

I have heal clip and incandescent. Works great in Onslaught.

[@svahn1]

IMPORTANT INFO: You can get the old version of Luna's and even Not Forgotten in the kiosk in the tower. So no, them having zen moment isn't FOMO, it's easier to get than the new version even.

[@tuxedoterrorwrist]

Will Not Forgotten be straight up better than any Lunas Howl you can get? Especially since you can just buy it from the exotic kiosk for 3 ascendant shards and its getting unsunset, how will Zen Moment stack up compared to the new perks?

[@mrshark117]

You assume I will change off of yeehaw gun

[@5ylokTheDefiled]

Two shotting is nice, but I was happy with a 3-tap ;)

[@kidneystone1345]

nah, the value of not forgotten has just sky rocketed

[@lupuskitsu248]

Meme roll I'm looking for is slideshot +extended/backup mag for 3 rounds instead of 2 loaded on the slide. Just gotta hit 14 mag.

[@darksabrz]

I just got Heal Clip/Incandescent for PvE, so I'm hyped for that. I think my personal PvP godroll would be Hammer-Forged / Ricochet / Encore / Magnificent Howl, probably with a Handling masterwork -- but I won't turn down Slideshot/Mag Howl either.

[@FrankKnife1]

Try rain of fire with this it might let you reload without procing the damage rounds. Then you have more shots to get precision kills

[@shanemiller7486]

So if the old guns are modified also and since they are undoing sunsetting not forgotten will be the goat again since it has way more range. Am I missing something lol

[@scrapplesshack2246]

you can old Lunas/Not Forgotten from the monument if you haven't gotten them before, just FYI

[@dylankim4279]

I recently got a Luna's with Hammer-Forged, Ricochet, Encore, and Precision Instrument with a Range Masterwork. Let me tell you: This gun is absolutely insane once you get it going. Being able to 2H1B like what Fallout said is nuts, but when you constantly get ramping damage, it becomes an absolute monster. I'm tryna get a roll similar to this, but with Mag Howl. May the RNG gods be with you as you guys farm.

[@Nimbl3_f0xx]

I got a heal clip/incandescent shiny on my first normal drop with a side of enlightened action and Mag howl lol

[@rotan1693]

Looking more for pve on luna but if i get a pvp one i wont mind heal clip incandescent is my goal subsistance incandescent would be good as well hoping for something decent to drop today

[@brandoncarter3042]

I have a slide shot/howl roll. Can confirm it works the way you think.

[@poodamagic]

Anything crazy with Magnificent Howl + Lucky Pants?

[@77dlawson]

what this weird raid exotic you have paired with it? Would love if the game finally acquainted me.

[@Narfwak]

Keep in mind that because the gun is solar and we are still technically in Season of the Wish we still have Flint Striker. Automagical radiant allows for a lot of shenanigans with other perks

[@Bondrewd_the_Novel]

Can precision instrument allow a 140 to 2 crit 1 body a Guardian?

[@mattyice3332]

will the new one have the 180 recoil pattern as well?

[@brandoncarter3042]

Any speculation on what an enhanced version of Magnificent Howl will do?

[@k1ll3rpr0xy8]

I kinda want to experiment with a Mag Howl plus Subsistence roll in pve, it'll probably be hard to test on edz nerds but if you bring it to like neomina maybe it could pop off idk

[@nacht9339]

Still use my Not Forgotten to this day, and it’s still good as hell

[@yunginunicorn]

Got a shiny luna's with heal clip/incandescent on my FIRST drop.

[@pizzahunter69]

I dont understand or missed it, why not subsistence instead of slideshot? Doesnt that auto reload without needed to do extra input?

[@nathanielwalker8762]

PvP players prefer slideshot because of a few reasons, first most of them are sliding anyways because it moves your hitbox and makes you a harder target so for most people it's not an extra input, two subsistence requires a kill to activate and slideshot is a neutral game perk it's not a ground shaking difference but if you play PvP a lot you'll find scenarios where you don't have enough ammo in your gun to get a kill but if you reload there's a more then likely chance that someone is gonna pop around a corner and start shooting you and you'll die before you can get your gun reloaded, and third slideshot just does more it gives extra range and stability ontop of reloading every time you slide i think it gives aim assist as well but i'm not entirely too sure about that part, so it's a perk that doesn't require any extra to activate, is situationally easier to activate then subsistence, and has more benefit.

[@pizzahunter69]

@nathanielwalker8762 Oke understandably, it has more perks. I get it now, thanks. But using Luna's to get the magnificent howl you need to make kills anyway, so I thought subsistence would literally synergize with it..

[@hashim4512]

PSA : starting from Final shape , for prismatic hunters , you will lose the ability to have healing grenades / devour or vanishing step , so a heal clip incandescent will allow you to ...heal , but most importantly if you kill a scotched ennemy , you will become invisible ( new fragments say any kill against any ennemy affected by any verb debuff will grant invisible ...aka jolted , voltatile or ....scortched ☺️) ...so there you go , the invisibility will allow you to reload at ease and keep the loop going

[@ImTheLetterP]

Does magnificent howl stack with lucky pants?

[@shivm941]

Wait! Does Mag Howl and Lucky Pants stack? I would imagine not, but *if* they did...

[@roguebot7873]

the private vs public game damage and health values were mentioned by bungie so i believe they are intentional, not bugged

[@EUI_Nulltype]

I'm gonna actually go for subsistence/mag howl. Build stacks, waste a shot to reload for bonus rounds, profit. Not optimal PVE but funni.

[@fromtheashes2794]

I originally wanted a Subsistence/Mag Howl roll for PvE. I thought once you got Mag Howl ready, you'd be able to just infinitely keep it going through continued headshot kills and Subsistence feeding you ammo (which you kinda can on piddly red bars). But instead, you do so much work to get Mag Howl going, then blow those shots on a beefier target that usually doesn't even die. Then you're just left with a basic ass hand cannon plinking away at some tank of an enemy.

[@jamarkushall4481]

Mag howl and eye of the storm absolutely kills

[@oddkikisdragon1833]

Fallout precision instrument ups crit damage but the stacks increase with any shot, body or crit

[@tenacity25]

Old Luna unironically tempts me in a way the new one doesn't because of Zen

[@juliuswallace6783]

I have a roll with eye of the storm. This gun is nuts.

[@gameboyhunter3603]

I wonder if mag howl is proc-able with lucky pants?? that could go crazy tbh

[@rogoth01themasterwizard11]

here's a notion, the quests so far have all given the 'original' rolls of each weapon as they were when they released, so if this is the case with luna's howl, it will be the first and only weapon since the perk was deprecated to have drop mag as a barrel perk on the quest reward version.

[@OGCodeDelta]

Drop mag won't be on Luna's; it's not in the part pool; check light gg

[@rogoth01themasterwizard11]

@@OGCodeDelta re-read what i said, then try again, I'm fully aware it won't be able to drop with it as a random roll, I said SPECIFICALLY the quest reward shiny version for completing the quest.

[@OGCodeDelta]

​@@rogoth01themasterwizard11 The curated roll on Light GG's weapon page tells you exactly what the quest drop is; it's not happening, no matter how hard you champion the idea or insist that I misinterpreted your comment, lol.

[@taromc4166]

Major pve player. I want to go for a Brave Luna with Subsistence/Heal Clip in 3rd and Incandescent and Precision Instrument in 4th. Subsistence and Heal are both very viable for pve and with Incan and Precision these combos will pair well with celestial nighthawk or Orpheus rig specifically because of the seasonal artifact mods and Precision hits/kills with solar weapons giving radiant and all. (edit: slideshot Precision Instrument with Lucky Pants mugnt also work)

[@EchoDoctrine]

“Granted you have to get two headshot kills before “ Well RiP. I’m out. Thanks for video I’ll stick with Dad Furnace.

[@soulseptem5281]

I want to try a mag howl, get max stacks in PvE and then use it with lucky pants. Just imagine the burst damage!

[@Volkor88]

You can get not forgotten from the monument kiosk btw

[@Vengeful_Fir]

I have one issue with wye of the storm. My 1v1s nevwr stay that way. They turn into like 1v3s most of the time

[@shredstein]

Oh shit the lights on the back show when you have a two tap ready to go! 😮

[@Mr_Ruhl]

It's always had that. It used to just light one up each time you got a crit. When it was full you knew you had a mag howl bullet ready.

[@drifters_premium_collectib1095]

Do we know if slideshot will proc howl?

[@Laxaholic82]

The roll you’ll get from the quest will have eye of the storm and mag howl

[@burningpuppy476]

First random roll I got was heal clip mag. Howl.

[@Lighthousegamer]

We need to see Mag howl fully procced with Lucky pants.

[@DiabolicNick]

I have a zen headseeker elsie's... now that right there is a 2 tapping monster.

[@warsmith1294]

I can't wait for heal clip + incandecent, the only guns that could have roled with that combo so far is a sidearm, a 360 auto, and a 600 auto that's locked to trials. It's going to be so nice for proc-ing ember of beneficence.

[@nathanflinchum1153]

Igneous could also get HC/incan, but yeah, locked to fucking trials. Such a waste sadly. Lunas has a special recoil pattern anyways for it’s archetype and better mag size and reload so I’m definitely farming a shiny heal clip incan roll lol

[@darelaxationstation3252]

I've been saving tokens just for this moment!😁

[@Sam16Adams]

PVE rolls for me. Incandescent/heal clip and incandescent/subsistence.

[@jriddlej]

Does it just randomly drop after an onslaught match?

[@stilllooking4aname673]

Transversive also works with mag howl but it maxs out at 10

[@IM_Arcades]

I have a Slideshot/Mag Howl roll and you can keep slide reloading until you get 6 shots of mag howl if you so wish. Better players can probably do a lot with this in 6s.

[@chrisennis5241]

The super shots don’t do enough with body damage and they have range drop off!!!

[@Djoki1]

Precision frame recoil on a 140 is so strange to me as i rarely use 180s outside malfeasance inside pve. Not sure why they changed the rate of fire as not forgotten is now the same. Id honestly prefer if it was either a normal 140 or a 180 but that would just make it a nicer looking Zaouli's. Anyway, ive been waiting for a good legendary solar HC to use on solar hunter as ive gotten tired after 25k kills on my sunshot this season (Most of those kills have been accumulated in onslaught. Yes, im that crazy).