False Pagan Religions: Animism, Hinduism, and Buddhism - Apologetics Series - Episode 38

On today’s episode of the SSPX Podcast, we’ll start our last batch of episodes - those dealing with the “why not” questions about what is reasonable to believe. Today we’ll be looking at the basic premise of Paganism - why Polytheism, animism, spiritualism, even if they have been at times very popular in history, and seem to be trendy now, simply don’t make sense to the reasonable person. We’ll see how, based on logic, the ideas inherent in Hinduism, Buddhism, and native or aboriginal spiritualities simply won’t match up to reality.
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[@gregcook9856]

Again and again Society priests manifest their excellent formation, thanks to Abp. Lefebvre., who set the course. People are hungry for solid teaching, and this series fits the bill.

[@gracewhite1601]

More now than ever

[@donaldmorgan9149]

Thank you Fr. Reuter.

[@KG-np9vz]

Very interesting! Thank you, Father Reuter, for another great podcast!

[@shobhitraj7674]

A christian trying to interpret hinduism for another christian . ironic

[@sunnyday7843]

I just love listening to the talks on this channel

[@horizon-one]

Excellent episode. Thank you Fr Reuter.

[@motherof1132]

Very informative and it was easy to follow what Fr was saying.

[@franciscaarruda6622]

Amazing! I loved this chat and learned a lot from it. 🙏💚💛🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷💛💚🙏

[@Luscious007771]

+JMJ+ This was one of the clearest and must accurate contrasts of Catholicism with Buddhism thatb I've ever seen (I'd lapsed into Buddhism before reversion). Prominent Buddhists would say that the assessment is accurate. The best part was the prescription of Catholicism

[@vaidassuopys4295]

Thank You Father!

[@Terabapu3156]

Thankyou sir God bless you

[@lezmajz4677]

; what happened with the verse Mathew 17 verse 21, except Douay Rheims there isn’t in any other Bible. Why?

[@ronaldbobeck9636]

Fr what about Thomas Merton Trappist Monk? His writing on Social Justice and poverty Are inspiring.

[@gabrielleeliseo6062]

The explanation of Buddhism/Hinduism given here is very specific. The reality is murkier than that. Buddhism has some adherents who are also Hindus. Some treat it merely as a way of thinking/or social mindset about their variety of Hinduism. Many believe in several gods, including Buddha. Others believe in several gods, with Siddhartha being merely a prophet or a holy man. Sikhs in some localities, treat Buddha with reverence as a reincarnation of a holy guru. Then, there are those who combined with Japanese Shinto, which is a whole, long historical/political fight. Now groups of Japanese have a combo of both that they consider to be their religion.

[@anng.4542]

This discussion is a perfectly good introduction to a complicated subject.

[@lansingmanor]

In Turkey I felt a terrible uneasiness outside the Sultanahmet mosque (across from Hagia Sophia) and ultimately decided not to enter it. However, there's still enough Catholicity in the architecture of Hagia Sophia (despite being converted into a mosque), that a Catholic tourist would find peace in that structure. In Japan, the Buddhist temples I visited for artistic pleasure were eerie in that they use the same incense you'd find in a Catholic church. One temple even had almost the same pews of my home parish, which was SUPER weird. The Shinto Temples I visited are absolutely beautiful from the exterior, but the interiors were so creepy to me because they were extremely underlit and moody, with a LOT of fetish items / paraphernalia, compared to the organized decoration in Catholic church interiors.

[@artifexdei3671]

Many people say that there's something creepy and weird about mosques, temples. As if some wicked spirits dwelled there.

[@SurelyLord]

Andrew @sspx would you be so kind as to add a link to the book you are reading? For some reason 🙄 Google is not bringing it up...Old Testament by Petry?

[@SSPX]

@SurelyLord Sure thing - I called it by the wrong name in the episode - you can see me looking around for it desperately. :) www.amazon.com/Catholic-Introduction-Bible-Old-Testament/dp/1586177222/ref=asc_df_1586177222/ "A Catholic Introduction to the Bible: The Old Testament" by John Bergsma and Brant Pitre. It isn't cheap or an "easy" read, but it's really great. I've made it all the way through, and can't wait until they release the New Testament! -A

[@auniversalwoman]

Thank you for teaching me a new word. Sad I never really knew what irascibility was ---

[@gilbertleopold2411]

Excellent show. Next time my Buddhist family members annoy me with their nonsenses, at least I know how to answer them.

[@biddy2134]

If you want solid teaching read Mauto Biglino and watch his interviews. He puts these people in the shade.

[@auniversalwoman]

Marvel and DC Superheroes seem to be the new Roman and Greek gods of our time

[@cjones3710]

Cartoons? What? Not in my family they are just woke junk now. The respect commanded by Batman from Animated Series is no longer present.

[@femaleKCRoyalsFan]

Well Thor is the only marvel character that is from Norse mythology. Captain America is cool if he fights the nazis and doesn't join them.

[@user-KK812]

Not a very accurate representation of hinduism . It is always misrepresented - mainly because it is so vast and it is hard for many people to grasp . Vishishta advaita and dvaita are hindu philosophies where brahman and atman are separate. And life on earth itself isn't torment , but life on earth without devotion and faith and only focus on gifts and materialistic goods is torment . You can live a fulfilling familial life on earth with renounciation not of action but of the fruit of action. Recommend anyone curious to look into this using the srimad bhagavatam - a hindu text which is parallel in a way to the bible (more than the gita which is one conversation). The bhagavatam has the story of creation , god's attributes and forms , devotees , messages from god , apocalypses etc. where a parallel can be drawn to the bible. The main differentiator of hinduism is that we believe that there are different paths to god - as long as they are done with devotion they are acceptable (they have to be pure or sattvic in nature not evil or tamasic) . And lastly I would like to conclude by saying hinduism in its root is monotheistic . One true form - brahman or parabrahma . Each attribute of God manifests as an incarnation.

[@Y2KMillenniumBug]

If you aren't in the right location, of course you don't see the Truth. 😂

[@anthonytan7134]

In my humble opinion, I would not say that Buddhism rejects revelation per se, because as father stated correctly, Buddhism founded by 500 bc, that's before Christ, Buddhism is kinda "pelagianism", the 4th noble truth teaches ways to curb the desires to escape wheel of suffering , more like commandments of Moses, so I reckon if Buddha was to meet Jesus, he would follow Jesus definitely. We just have to bring "revelation" to them, like Paul in Roman 1 or Acts 17. God bless

[@M5guitar1]

Vatican II says that Hindus seek the Divine Mysteries....I've always found that absurd. Worshipping elephants, monkeys, & demons is seeking the Divine Mysteries? Ridiculous.

[@beatricec9238]

Through creation perhaps 😅

[@bobtosi9346]

That is actually said in v2?

[@aliceshaletdsouza8252]

Pray for The Restoration of Traditional Latin Mass in India

[@femaleKCRoyalsFan]

You forgot cows....they think the cow is a god. I believe beef is not allowed to be eaten there. Before I switched to the tlm, there was a priest from India at my parish and I am pretty sure he was only allowed to eat chicken and pork back home.

[@drft743er3]

You're clearly out of your depth, it's not for the shallow minded to understand vedanta and the true liberation

[@terezka5340]

Can you please do more of these on buddhism and new age. There is so much on Islam but almost nothing on buddhism and no one wants to touch new age because it´s such an umbrella term and itś so ridiculous but here almost all my nation is new age. And most my friends are buddhist, new age or full blown occultists. It would be very helpful

[@DanielHowardIRE]

Well Buddhism is an ancient religion with millions of followers and a very strong belief system which predates Christianity. That some of your friends have chosen to follow the path of Buddhism is a personal one, just as your Christian path is. It doesn't seem like you show much respect or tolerance for others' beliefs which don't align with your own. A world of religious tolerance and peace is one we need to aim for, not sectarianism.

[@FrancisCarmel]

Fr Mitch Pacwa gave a deep series of talks on the history of the new age movement

[@news_internationale2035]

​@@DanielHowardIRE Seems you don't understand why somebody would take a particular belief seriously. How shallow are you?

[@NewMoonDay]

​@@DanielHowardIRE You are good man sir. Peace to you whatever religion you follow.

[@micahstallings5799]

Buddhism isnt a religon

[@nicholasdasilva9]

This is not a good analysis of Buddhism.

[@RoanOC]

It is pronounced: 'vayda' not: 'veeda' The Vedas were brought to India by the Aryans. What is today called "Hinduism" (accurate name: Sanatana Dharma [The Eternal Religion] ) developed out of the Vedic 'religion' receiving some admixture from Dravidian folk religions. The Vedas today serve (among other things) as the purity test of what might be considered 'orthodox' Hinduism: if a writing or thought does not comport with the Veda's, it is probably not an orthodox Hindu dogma or practice.

[@franciscaarruda6622]

🙏💚💛🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷💛💚🙏

[@alfgand8040]

This passage against paganism is one of the most beautiful passages in Scripture. All pagans should read. But all men are vain, in whom there is not the knowledge of God: and who by these good things that are seen, could not understand him that is, neither by attending to the works have acknowledged who was the workman: But have imagined either the fire, or the wind, or the swift air, or the circle of the stars, or the great water, or the sun and moon, to be the gods that rule the world. With whose beauty, if they, being delighted, took them to be gods: let them know how much the Lord of them is more beautiful than they: for the first author of beauty made all those things. Or if they admired their power and their effects, let them understand by them, that he that made them, is mightier than they: For by the greatness of the beauty, and of the creature, the creator of them may be seen, so as to be known thereby. (Wisdom 13 1-5)

[@miguelatkinson]

I don't think you know what paganism is

[@anng.4542]

@alfgand8040 - Only problem is, modern pagans don't believe any of those warnings apply to them. They believe they're enlightened, uncommonly wise, and that we're the fools. If only they knew what awaits them. Pray for conversions! If the former satanist high wizard Zachary King could swim the Tiber, so can these lost souls.

[@anng.4542]

​​@@miguelatkinson See, we have the experience of exorcists over hundreds of years who inform us that satan always presents himself as a beautiful, luminous being who will grant your every wish. Only later does satan reveal himself. While certainly not all pagans are possessed, you are leaving yourselves open to that condition because the "gods" and idols you worship are only representations of satan. Think I'll skip that part, thank you.

[@catholicintoeternity5679]

Re: SSPX I always sort of shrink when I hear that society speaking like there are two levels in Catholicism... Their level as being superior and holy (better dressed) and (better postures), and the Holy Catholic Church as being sort of irreverent... At 78, I lived through the Latin Mass, and came out of the Mass not having understood much in that language. I still love to reminisce about those good old days, but since Mother Church is a good mother; she decided that each faithful would be better served hearing the Mass in their own language...I immediately cheered that decision indeed. Please don*t tell me that back in those days that I was receiving Holy Communion in a more reverent way, as one grows in the love of receiving the Body, Blood Soul and Divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ. Ps One should not even notice if others are receiving on the tongue or in the hand if one is concentrated on who one receives.

[@bruno-bnvm]

You are not participating in the same mass in your native tong. Is a completely new invention. With a different theology.

[@aliceshaletdsouza8252]

AVE CHRISTUS REX AVE MARIA REGINA

[@enmac500]

Paganism is beautiful

[@anng.4542]

For now, anyway. Or until you reach the particular judgement.

[@the_tax_consultant]

@@anng.4542How are you so sure it isn’t the Buddha, or any of the myriad Hindu gods, or Allah and His Prophet Muhammad waiting on the other side?

[@Y2KMillenniumBug]

When it comes to details, believe me, it's true because it's Chinese...

[@NewMoonDay]

So much indirect hatred for other belief systems. Live and let live.

[@anng.4542]

Annoying as it is, we're used to getting trolled by Protestants-- especially Evangelicals, Fundamentalists and Pentacostals-- as well as misinformed Catholics, even atheists. But getting trolled by a pagan is something really special! 🤣

[@Y2KMillenniumBug]

At least I am not vague about the preaching of nonsense.. See you in Malaysia 😂

[@enriquefonseca2391]

Can we conclude then that Archbishop ML was wrong by holding the idea that souls can be saved outside the Holy Catholic Church and even in false religions??

[@Y2KMillenniumBug]

Darling you are so wrong

[@marystarseed2497]

Thank you exactly

[@aliceshaletdsouza8252]

God Loves you

[@news_internationale2035]

Accept Christ.

[@Y2KMillenniumBug]

Buddhism is True when it comes to reincarnation.. History tends to repeat itself well at least it rhymes 😂

[@smlanka4u]

The concept of creator God developed from time to time, and the definitions of creator God can't make a creator God. The concept of creator God is illogical, selfish, and childish. The universe is mathematical, and I made an equation to prove the origin of the universe. It is explained in a book called verifying the origin of everything binary mathematical physics and Buddhism. It explains the origin of quantum objects and observers.

[@capraagricola]

You're a pinhead

[@ordinarycitizenn]

Lay off the pipe and take a basic course in metaphysics.

[@crabmaster3338]

All you did is make affirmations and use pejoratives, as opposed to proving anything. Typical.

[@josecolon2104]

A majority of what scientists push is based on nothing more than theory and speculation based on flawed computer models. Sometimes they are right, not always. They are also the ones who would have us believe that there is no such thing as evil, because as is their argument against God, they consider it a human creation.

[@godwin3101]

Research about exorcisms and demons, tell me which equation is used there