NO! You are NOT Irish! History of a big myth in genealogy!

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Family Tree Nuts, History & Genealogy Service

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NO! You are NOT Irish! You aren’t a child of Erin, you don’t have the “Luck of the Irish”, and you can’t blame that temper of yours on Irish roots. When Americans are asked what their ethnicity is, millions of us list Irish first. Why is that? Where did this misconception come from? So, if you aren’t Irish, then what are you? In this video, I’ll explain my point, and a little about the migrations of Irish immigrants to America and why so many of us have been told incorrectly all our lives that we are Irish. By the way, you’re not Cherokee either, so be sure to see our video about that topic as well.
Before I get too deep in this video, I guess I need to state the obvious. Of course, some of you ARE Irish. Some of you, or your close ancestors were born there. Some of you have done your family trees and discovered your Irish ancestors names and maybe even where in Ireland that they came from. This video is not aimed at you, it is aimed at those that have been told that they are Irish, assumed it, or simply just wanted to be Irish. Hopefully by the end of this video you will have a deeper understanding of what you are and where your ancestors came from.
To better understand the chances of you having Irish roots, you not only need to know the story of your ancestors, but also when and where the Irish came to America. For the first century of settlement in the New World, hardly any Irish immigrated to America.
The next wave of Irish immigration was the time of the dreaded Irish Potato Famine. During the mid 1840s until the early 1850s hundreds of thousands of Irish left the shamrock shores of Ireland and immigrated all over the world, many of them to America, especially to the Boston area. By the mid 1850s the population of Boston was estimated to be about 25% Irish, with 85% of them being born in Ireland.
Another wave of Irish immigration happened in the 1880s due to economically hard times in Ireland. Many of these immigrants took jobs building the railroads that were quickly connecting the country. And some became coal miners, often in Western Pennsylvania, and other regions in Appalachia.
When I was a boy I asked my mom, where are we from, what are we? The first thing she mentioned was Irish, and I declared Saint Patrick’s Day as my favorite holiday. However, as I got older and did my research, I confirmed that I was Irish, but it was on my father’s side, not my mothers. Why did she think that she had Irish roots?
The fact is, my mother is mostly Scots-Irish, as is my father for that matter. However, the family stories that were passed down said that we were Irish, not Scots-Irish, why is that? What is the difference between Scots-Irish, and “regular Irish”?
I’ll sum up the Scots-Irish as fast as I possibly can. Beginning in the early 1600s, for many reasons, Great Britain, under the leadership of Kings James I, began to relocate many Lowland Scots, and some English that lived along the tumultuous border of Scotland and England. These people were mostly Protestant and had a warrior culture due almost continuous fighting in the region that they were from. They were relocated to Northern Ireland and became known as the Ulster Scots.
In the early 1700s this group of people were heavily recruited to settle in the back country of the British Colonies to serve as a buffer between the native tribes and the English settlements. Their hardy and warrior culture made them a perfect fit for their new home. Like every other ethnic group, the Scots-Irish did spread out all over the map, but they concentrated into Appalachia.
For centuries the Irish have been discriminated against in the British Empire. Their often refusal to assimilate into British society has caused them to be exploited and even enslaved. Many of us have never been told how the Irish were often thought of as a subspecies of humans and how businesses used to display “NINA signs” which were “Help Wanted, No Irish Need Apply”.
For some reason we as humans are attracted to what is often called the “Lost Cause”. It’s similar to why it’s said that many people want to relate to the Confederate States, Native American Tribes, Poor Hillbillies, or even the Civil Rights Movement for some. We have a longing and a desire to relate to those who struggled and overcame, more than we do to those that had it easier.
Links to videos talked about in this video:
NO! You're NOT Cherokee!: • NO! You are NOT Cherok...
Ireland History Playlist: • IRELAND
Visit to Home of My Irish Ancestors: • VISIT TO HOMETOWN OF M...
Our two videos about the Scots-Irish: • THE SCOTS-IRISH, A BRI... &. kzbin.info...
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@docsquish
@docsquish Жыл бұрын
Haha. The first minute. You told me I’m not Irish, nor Cherokee. That made me laugh. My great grandfather came from Ireland and married a Cherokee. 😂
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
💥 😆
@montananerd8244
@montananerd8244 Жыл бұрын
🦄
@roadhouse1234
@roadhouse1234 Жыл бұрын
Same here my great great great grandfather (Seañ. W. Stapleton) came to America from Offaly, in mid 1800s. He made money continuing his career as an Irish boxer. He used the money he’d saved to move to Pennington Virginia.
@1rarestar
@1rarestar Жыл бұрын
LOL mine too But not Cherokee. We all thought she was Blackfoot but ended up being Inuit instead. A Neal marrying a Smith. I'm also irish on my mom's side Walker family.
@Ripplesinthewaters
@Ripplesinthewaters Жыл бұрын
Same! The Cherokee line was only one person and I have no DNA left from her. My family is Scottish, but they married into Irish families early in the 1880s in America. 😊
@righty-o3585
@righty-o3585 Жыл бұрын
My mom was born in Dublin, and I am the first generation born American in my family. I do not claim to be Irish. I am American of Irish descent. And proud of it 🍀🤘
@Porks_TV
@Porks_TV Жыл бұрын
I tracked my earliest family related to me to dublin would love to visit some day
@HenRy-bm9ww
@HenRy-bm9ww Жыл бұрын
That makes you more Irish than many so called "Irish" Americans who are really just mutts that don't know their own roots.
@minhteaa
@minhteaa 11 ай бұрын
That’s the distinguishing factor here! Too many Americans give us bad names as people with Irish descent. Most probably don’t even have that and just say they are something to fit in with the caricature that som Americans make Irish folks out to be. It’s disheartening.
@righty-o3585
@righty-o3585 11 ай бұрын
@@minhteaa I'm actually a legal citizen of Ireland 😁
@ScotchIrishHoundsman
@ScotchIrishHoundsman 10 ай бұрын
You can literally have Irish citizenship, you’re Irish lol.
@cindy844
@cindy844 Жыл бұрын
I have an Irish last name. But in researching my ancestors and building my family tree, I found that most of my ancestors in that line were actually Scottish. They spent roughly a century in Ireland, during which time my great-something grandmother married an Irishman. Then some of them came to colonial America, settling in North Carolina. That's where we've been ever since, lol
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Yes! This story is one of the biggest reasons that I made this video! I talk about this exact same thing in the video.
@cindy844
@cindy844 Жыл бұрын
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy I like to think that if I could trace my Scottish ancestry back far enough, I would find Scandinavian roots.
@dantownsend761
@dantownsend761 Жыл бұрын
We are probably related! I had scots irish ancestors settle in south carolina
@stephenmcloughlin7718
@stephenmcloughlin7718 Жыл бұрын
The Scots were originally an Irish tribe who inhabited Scotland from Ireland. So the Scots are really Irish. The Scots language comes from Irish. The stone of Scone on which Scottish kings were crowned was brought to Scotland from Ireland and was the stone on which the old Irish kings were crowned.
@cindy844
@cindy844 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenmcloughlin7718 thank you for the info! I watched a video a few days ago that said the same thing, but I don't remember any mention of the stone.
@MarkRipley-h3w
@MarkRipley-h3w 4 ай бұрын
I'm half Irish and half Scots, quite hard really, one part of me wants to get drunk and the other part doesn't want to pay for it.
@clouddz
@clouddz 3 ай бұрын
I dont know what one is what, as a Irish dude living in Scotland, pretty much the same shit. lol
@caoillainn
@caoillainn 2 ай бұрын
I'm 25% Scots and 100% cheap! LOL!! :)
@bobalbin3659
@bobalbin3659 2 ай бұрын
Did you hear about the Scotsman that loaned the Irishman a dollar?
@bobalbin3659
@bobalbin3659 2 ай бұрын
Did you hear about the Scotsman that loaned the Irishman a dollar?
@lucascoval828
@lucascoval828 2 ай бұрын
And it's okay to make those jokes!
@roberthuck5589
@roberthuck5589 Жыл бұрын
I had the exact opposite experience. Growing up, I was always told we had no Irish ancestors. They were all from Germany or England. Turns out, I have two Irish ancestors after all.
@thomsboys77
@thomsboys77 Жыл бұрын
Okay….
@JusticeForNicholeAlloway
@JusticeForNicholeAlloway Жыл бұрын
Me too! Only mine were all supposed to be from Germany and Norway. Nope!
@heavenlyboy34
@heavenlyboy34 Жыл бұрын
Same here! Had to do geneology research to find out for sure because I didn't have reliable family records.
@maggietaskila8606
@maggietaskila8606 Жыл бұрын
Highland Scot, ( Stewart of Apin), Hebridian Scot ( MacLean of Duart )with a smattering of Norwegian ( probably a Viking that stayed in the Hebridies ) Ulster Scot( Donegal) Irish ( Dublin ) and Norman French. What I was told and it proved true on DNA.
@7overland514
@7overland514 Жыл бұрын
Kinda similar story, but my family never mentioned any lineage. I was 20ish before someone asked if I was Irish because of my last name. After genealogical research, it turned out that both sides of my family are Irish.
@COUNTYGAINS
@COUNTYGAINS Жыл бұрын
i think a tonne of Americans look Irish and genetically are irish but for some reason living in Ireland irish people dont wanna say that americans are irish when they clearly are!! During rhe famine 1 million irish went to usa thats why you guys are irish!! i always defend the yanks here!! love from Galway, Ireland!
@risinggael1685
@risinggael1685 6 ай бұрын
Same here...
@JNeace-er9yg
@JNeace-er9yg 5 ай бұрын
We have Irish heritage. Period.
@kcirtapelyk6060
@kcirtapelyk6060 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, there are so few full blooded Irish left in America as most have long assimilated into mainstream American society and intermarried with other ethnic groups to the point where it no longer makes sense to claim to be Irish. So I understand why a lot of Irish in Ireland get annoyed at Americans when we claim we’re just as Irish as they are.
@Baldwin-iv445
@Baldwin-iv445 4 ай бұрын
Plus if you look at numbers there are more Irish in north America than the rest of the world combined.
@paddyo3841
@paddyo3841 3 ай бұрын
Irish have been systematically demoralized and indoctrinated to hate themselves and especially Irish Americans who could mount a real revolution if allowed right of return…ireland desperately needs its diaspora to be welcomed back to their ancestral homeland
@gw7624
@gw7624 5 ай бұрын
What's remarkable about Americans is that they'll claim they're anything BUT English when describing their ancestry despite the fact their country was literally founded by Englishmen.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy 5 ай бұрын
Check out our video called “It’s OK to be English”.
@patricka.crawley6572
@patricka.crawley6572 2 ай бұрын
Half of the Border Scots were Briton and Anglo-Saxon.
@BurmaShane
@BurmaShane 2 ай бұрын
"Literally founded by Englishmen" 😂
@ulyssees30y
@ulyssees30y Ай бұрын
@@gw7624 There are many millions who are very proud to say their ancestors arrived on the Mayflower. That means they came from England. Maybe many Americans of English ancestry feel that they don't have to state the obvious. They have last names. If anybody doesn't want to talk about their ancestry it's the folks with German ancestry. Half of them pretend their ancestors were English. They anglicized their names.
@rodadair7333
@rodadair7333 26 күн бұрын
@@BurmaShaneSo why is it that that is riotously hilarious? Just curious.
@Hollowluna
@Hollowluna 6 ай бұрын
That’s something I still want to someday, is visiting Ireland. Seeing where my ancestors of the clan Caoṁánaċ, had been laid to rest, and where they ruled.
@abanico_rodilla
@abanico_rodilla Жыл бұрын
As far as being 100% Irish in Ireland you also need to keep in mind that there were Viking settlements on the East Coast of Ireland in the early Middle Ages (c.800AD), then there is the Norman (Norman-French aristocrats who also ruled England after conquering it in 1066) Invasion in 1169. They left a big legacy in surnames with the Fitz- prefix being thanks to them (and their version of French) and then you had the English Pale which was the English controlled area of East Ireland (including the Dublin area). The Pale would have had some English influence, including the introduction of English surnames (and DNA). Some Irish surnames were also Anglicised to 'fit in' to the English ascendancy. So, you had at least 3 peoples inputting their languages, cultures, surnames and above all genetics between about 800 - 1600 AD, before even the Protestant Plantations in the north began. How much genetic mixing went on between the Irish and: the Viking, Normans and English, is hard to say. Probably less as you went further west. It should be noted however that the Vikings were quite taken - and not fussy - in 'marrying' women from different cultures...they often raided and took as slaves/wives: English, Scots and Irish Women. Many ending up in Iceland!
@johnoneal1234
@johnoneal1234 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why people bother posting if they don't accept replies. This was not a bad post but incomplete. It doesn't make note of the many centuries of intermarriage with Ulster Irish and Coastal and Highland Scots. And it also gives short shrift to the massive influx of Scots Presbyterian Lowland Scots in the Plantation. This makes five gene pools, and the Highlanders being Culturally Garlic but Genetically Viking complicates the picture as well.
@smallfeet4581
@smallfeet4581 Жыл бұрын
​@@johnoneal1234 garlic ? Hmm , was that the Italian influence 😂, I know what you meant , just joking
@smallfeet4581
@smallfeet4581 Жыл бұрын
The lowland Scots were the rievers of borders area , sent because they were troublesome , bells Elliott's Armstrong's etc , before that there was the vikings , Norse and Danes , who both took sides in the fighting of the two biggest families in Ireland thus against each other too , then the Normans who were there to stop the wht slave trade in Dublin , then the Scots (scotti) , Bruce's brother was king of Ireland for a short time , before all this the dal riada from Ireland around 400 ad went to Scotland and settled in Argyll pushing the Picts back , intermarrying as well as fighting , I'm sure the Picts and Scots (it was said the Dal riada were the scotti tribe which is where Scotland got its name from as they were called Caledonii or alba at that time ) , the Picts and Scotti joined to fight the vikings , there was marriages between Norse queens and Scots kings to stop the fightings , one queen brought influence from Jerusalem with her , now we have ones saying the scotti were eastern scythians (is that nomadic \gypsy Iranians as some say ? , Which is why Irish are now told they are not wht 🤷 but the scotti were kicked out of Ireland after a dispute and went to Argyll and caused trouble there , William Wallaces grandfather was french and got land in Scotland from David 1 of Scotland for helping his scottish sister Matilda in the barons wars asshe married an English nobleman , Walter fitzalan came with Wallace's g\grandfather and got the job of high steward of Glasgow , in 1200s I think the huguenot protestants fled to Scotland as they were being killed in France so long before Henry 8th time , some of the planters or maybe Ulster Scots farmers were killed at Portadown , not sure if it was all of them or if more came or brought over , against their will I think , the Ulster Scots were willing to go to Appalachia as they were hardy and it looked like home and no one else wanted that area , the Highland clearances made Scots move to coastal areas and eventually to Canada , the vikings of which there were different ones settled on Scottish islands too after the battle of largs , the battle had no winner they just kept their distances 😂 , Walter Fitzalan (the norman Frenchman high steward of Glasgow) fought with the Scottish king against somerled , the viking lord of the isles
@smallfeet4581
@smallfeet4581 Жыл бұрын
Forgot the Spanish and basque that went to Ireland ,
@LampWaters
@LampWaters Жыл бұрын
Yep vikings loved those Irish princesses.
@mtreuil
@mtreuil Жыл бұрын
I was told all of my life that we were French. Since we're Cajun, that made sense to me. Then I took a DNA test and found out there's also German, Spanish, and IRISH in my ancestry. It turns out, my 2nd great grandma on my dad's side was Irish from County Cork.
@therealmcgoy4968
@therealmcgoy4968 Жыл бұрын
French ancestry gets put into other categories because genetic testing is illegal in France (only gif medical purposes). So people with French backgrounds get results for neighboring countries.
@tonyd3266
@tonyd3266 11 ай бұрын
Research Cork county - depending on the year, the vikings took over Cork and much of that cork dna can actually be viking.
@kcirtapelyk6060
@kcirtapelyk6060 11 ай бұрын
The Cajuns are ethnically and culturally distinct from modern day French people. The Acadians who migrated to Louisiana mixed with other groups of people overtime and developed their own distinct culture.
@jimtom4878
@jimtom4878 11 ай бұрын
​@@tonyd3266that can go for anyone in Ireland
@petermedcalf1191
@petermedcalf1191 10 ай бұрын
What Americans claim as their ancestry is often a matter of fashion. Bring "Scottish" was made fashionable after the film "Braveheart" but ceased after the release by the Scottish government of the Lockerbie plane bomb terrorist. Be proud of who YOU are and of being American.
@marymary5494
@marymary5494 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I’m British born of Irish parents, grandparents etc. I now live in Ireland. My husband is Irish born, he somehow claims he’s more Irish than I am. 🙄 Like its a competition. I obviously have a British accent, so when my husband has introduced me in Ireland to an Irish person, they may say “Oh, where about’s in England are you from?” My husband usually jumps saying “she’s Irish” and goes on to reel off my Irish heritage.☺️
@silverkitty2503
@silverkitty2503 Жыл бұрын
He is OBVIOUSLY more Irish than you. No it's not a competition?? Obviously you have Irish heritage. But you have British culture too. Which is cool embrace your diversity.
@johnnywarnerperfectroad66
@johnnywarnerperfectroad66 Жыл бұрын
Think it's like saying the Ulster and Eire accents are the same, very distinct difference between the Scottish accent, Welsh and English, I don't think Britain has it's own accent unless it is BBC English (Received Pronunciation). Great thing about accents is their multitude of variation county to county and so on. That said my Scottish wife sounds Scottish to me but her family think she sounds English. And definitely sounds Inverness, not Glasgow, Edinburgh or Baffshire.
@silverkitty2503
@silverkitty2503 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnywarnerperfectroad66 Dude part of ulster is in the republic in fact 3 counties donegal cavan and monaghan and YES they are irish and have an ulster accent they would sound like a northern irish accent.
@johnnywarnerperfectroad66
@johnnywarnerperfectroad66 Жыл бұрын
@@silverkitty2503 fair point only 6 countries in Northern Ireland and sorry to use the more Unionist term. Indeed 9 counties in Ulster 3 of which are in the Republic and not having been to that part of Ireland I made the assumption that the accents would be more Belfast in sound. Sorry to offend
@silverkitty2503
@silverkitty2503 Жыл бұрын
​@@johnnywarnerperfectroad66 what are you talking about belfast is in northern ireland??? Actually tbh it sounds more like the accent from derry...also in northern ireland tbh you wouldn't be able to distinguish some donegal accents from a derry accent. But most derry people are irish even though its in the uk technically.
@timothymurphy7127
@timothymurphy7127 7 ай бұрын
My father was an Irish immigrant. Spoke Gaelic. Pretty sure Im Irish.
@jenburrows6219
@jenburrows6219 Ай бұрын
With a name like Timothy Murphy you are most likely Italian
@juliefreds4594
@juliefreds4594 Жыл бұрын
I was told my ancestors came from Ireland during the potato famine. The men worked in the salt mines on the east coast until they settled in Michigan and that’s where most of our family lives today. When I had my DNA test done it showed that I’m nearly half Irish and the rest is German, Dutch and 8% East African. I was genuinely shocked by the last one because I’m blonde and as white as you can get!😂
@PushandGlide365
@PushandGlide365 Жыл бұрын
When i did my DNA i was Norwegian 45% and Irish 35% with trace amount of Greece 10%, and 1% traces amount not accounted for. We also live in southern Michigan. All my son's and daughters are Blonde hair and blue eyes. A total of all 6 children.
@roselee4445
@roselee4445 Жыл бұрын
There was that white encyclopedia salesman.. . Well it was papyrus. 🤣
@LupinGaius-ls1or
@LupinGaius-ls1or Жыл бұрын
The Berbers are indigenous N. Africans and could pass for N. European
@mikeb8013
@mikeb8013 Жыл бұрын
Your not blk. You are not negroid. Africans are not Irish. Just like Europeans or Irish are not Nigerian, Ghanian or Congolese. Understand. Go live with sub Saharan Africans see if your negroid african.
@hummingbirdofgumption3263
@hummingbirdofgumption3263 Жыл бұрын
You're probably East African on the Dutch side. I had a cousin show up with E African and Khmer. I couldn't figure out how, but then I found Dutch ancestry and sure enough, a 3rd great grandmother was from South Africa.
@felishahauswirth9336
@felishahauswirth9336 Жыл бұрын
Amen!!!! Be proud of who you are and the people who made you who you are!!!
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! And there we find our true identity.
@forgottenboy9778
@forgottenboy9778 Жыл бұрын
I had the opposite experience! I was always told by my mom that we were super Polish and French as well as German! But my dad was super Irish, and our last name is incredibly Irish. Turns out I’m 55 percent Irish and like 30 percent for the rest of Europe. I swear that my dad knew something, my mom was disappointed hahaha
@vaskylark
@vaskylark 11 ай бұрын
You know those DNA tests are bogus right? Identical twins tested all of them and in many they came out different haha My husband is a card carrying Native American and his nephew did 23 and Me and came out no Native American and they aren't a little Native American they are only 2 generations off the reservation. Don't beleive those tests. They admitted it's only a guess. It can be fun but don't bet on it being at all accurate.
@jimtom4878
@jimtom4878 11 ай бұрын
Your last name is Irish because your dad is Irish lol
@EpicAelflaed
@EpicAelflaed 7 ай бұрын
The Irish weren’t white originally
@anthonyfox585
@anthonyfox585 7 ай бұрын
​@@EpicAelflaed late 1800s to early 1900s Anglo eugenics
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 6 ай бұрын
@@EpicAelflaed What were they then? - and did their skin color change?
@helenamcginty4920
@helenamcginty4920 24 күн бұрын
Fun fact. Since Brexit when as many folk as could got EU passports based on parents and or grandparents nationality anyone who had Irish grandparents and wanted one got an Irish passport. Now there are more Irish passport holders in England than Irish in Ireland.
@dcyates
@dcyates 6 ай бұрын
Genetic testing tells me I’m 70% Irish, 10% Icelandic, 10% Indigenous, and the final 10% is mostly Scottish and Welsh, etc. This was a huge surprise to us because my mother thought she was Icelandic and Scottish-Welsh. She had no idea she had any Irish blood at all, but I obviously can’t be 70% Irish unless my mother is at least part-Irish, too. ☘️🇮🇪☘️
@christigoth
@christigoth 6 ай бұрын
lots of irish blood in iceland tho.
@dcyates
@dcyates 6 ай бұрын
@@christigoth Yeah, exactly. I think I remember reading that somewhere around 63% of Icelandic women bear Irish genes.
@terrencerose3186
@terrencerose3186 6 ай бұрын
I have a little Irish heritage. My wife’s family was born in America but I call them Irish. My wife is 98 precent. Her Father is 100 precent, did not know you could be. Her mom was 98 precent. I am sorry, they were born in America but they are Irish
@johnhealy4233
@johnhealy4233 Ай бұрын
No
@thepenultimateninja5797
@thepenultimateninja5797 10 ай бұрын
A friend of a friend's family were all of Irish descent. They were very proud of this, and always made a huge deal of St Patrick's Day, and they were all covered in Leprechaun and lucky shamrock tattoos etc. Anyway, they all decided to do one of those genetic test things, and it turned out they had zero Irish ancestry lol. I feel a bit guilty laughing about it because they were actually really nice people, but it is kind of funny. I don't know what happened after their discovery, because I moved to a different state shortly afterwards and lost touch with them.
@enkisdaughter4795
@enkisdaughter4795 9 ай бұрын
A friend of mine has three daughters, one of whom was a researcher for the BBC. One time she and her colleagues were on their way to Nashville to film something. My friend’s parents-in-law were from Ireland, but were old enough to remember when the whole of Ireland was part of the UK. Her father-in-law fought for Britain during WWI. Once Southern Ireland gained independence, they decided they wished to remain British, so moved to the UK. Fast forward and their granddaughter and her colleagues did a stopover in New York. It was 16th March. They went out for something to eat and called in on a bar on their way back to the hotel. The bartender started chatting to them and discovered they worked for the BBC. They noticed the entire bar was dressed in green, strewn with cardboard leprechauns, crocks of gold and shamrocks (a type of clover). One of the party mentioned it and the barman started gushing over St Patrick’s Day (*_a saints day_*). One of the colleagues said to my friend’s daughter “Aren’t your Dad’s parents Irish?” She nodded. The barman almost ran to her. She then asked where in Ireland his family came from. He was a little surprised and replied that both his parents had emigrated to America after WWII from Germany. He didn’t have one drop of Irish blood in him. She found this bizarre. BTW St Patrick was Welsh. He was approximately 16 years old when he was kidnapped and taken to Ireland to be a slave and mind his master’s flock.
@laurielovett8849
@laurielovett8849 6 ай бұрын
I'm Irish too and I'm laughing,I can just picture they're faces. Well I think I'm Irish but an awful lot if us are mostly viking not Irish, vikings raided Ireland a lot some settled married Irish women some took Irish women to the Norse countries.we are who we are and who cares
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 5 ай бұрын
@@laurielovett8849 Vikings make up only 6% of Irish population - you're a Viking wanabee.
@emcc8598
@emcc8598 4 ай бұрын
British?
@emcc8598
@emcc8598 4 ай бұрын
​@@laurielovett8849Don't know about ur antecedents but most Irish people today have only minor "viking" ancestry
@matthewmills5390
@matthewmills5390 8 ай бұрын
Great video. I am from Northern Ireland and am the “Scots Irish” that you refer to. Northern Ireland remains of course part of the United Kingdom and a lot of us still feel a lot more Scottish than Irish despite living on the “island of Ireland”. However, thankfully now we have peace and hopefully will have more respect between the two cultures as time goes on!
@markkavanagh4457
@markkavanagh4457 8 ай бұрын
Scots Irish weren't Irish, they were actually Scottish.
@EpicAelflaed
@EpicAelflaed 7 ай бұрын
@@markkavanagh4457 The Scot’s - Irish 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 They were from the lowlands of Scotland - Scottish and ENGLISH ancestry
@markkavanagh4457
@markkavanagh4457 7 ай бұрын
@89leemills complex topic but you're definitely not wrong👍
@markkavanagh4457
@markkavanagh4457 7 ай бұрын
You do realise that the plantations began in 1640 and as that was almost 400 years ago, the Scottish part of your DNA will have inevitably been decreased as a result of you living on the island of Ireland. Your own ancestor's, will have married into both Irish Catholic and Irish Protestant families. It's absolutely ridiculous for you to think you're still Scottish, and the fact that you are using religious bigotry, to divide the people of the entire island is puerile, especially when more Protestants than ever before are in favour of a united Ireland. In fact most Protestants North or South do not regard themselves as British or part of the UK, " in fact" you'd be shocked at how many Irish like myself, have Protestant relatives who will never consider themselves as anything but Irish. My late Mother's parents were protestants and staunch supporters of Irish freedom and unity, I'm not the only one by the way. We did the work for peace while the unionists, loyalists and Orange order pissed on the Catholics, Protestants and Presbyterians who didn't agree with their former colonialist masters bigotry. The Orange culture in Northern Ireland was born of colonialism, bigotry, racism jingoism, lies and gerrymandered politics.. time you stepped into the 21st century instead of still thinking its 1690! That's another historical fallacy by the way. The Battle of the Boyne was fought on the 1st of July, not the 12th. The Battle of Aughrim was on the 12th, I'd suggest you look it up and while you're at it I'd suggest a good read of the actual history rather than the fallacy that has been peddled for a hundred years or more. The United Irishmen were Protestants too!.
@SteveCondron
@SteveCondron 7 ай бұрын
Here's hoping.
@RobertWilke
@RobertWilke Жыл бұрын
Well I’m grew up German, my birth mother when I found her told me she was adopted. And that her original last name was Blankenship. Through ancestry dna test I was able to confirm that she was and that it was from Northumberland just below Scotland. The shock was when I found out my birth father was 100 percent Irish. I was able to trace that his family came from the center of Ireland. I’ve made contact with a second cousin that knew of my family there. I intend to see him when I go there hopefully later this year. From what I’ve put together my Grandfather who came here was back and forth a bit at the turn of the last century. I think he may have had some trouble with the authorities that made him come here.
@TerryWaitesRadiator
@TerryWaitesRadiator Жыл бұрын
Du sprichst sehr gut Englisch! Wo in Deutschland kommst du her?
@RobertWilke
@RobertWilke Жыл бұрын
@@TerryWaitesRadiator Ameriica sorry. My family I was raised by is of German ancestry (Wilke). As it is though I found out that I’m also 1/4 German from my birth grandmother (Terbruggen).
@maureen9115
@maureen9115 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather had to leave Ireland on the run from the British he was fighting against. He was what was called the flying Irish. He was only going to go abroad temporarily, but died leaving his Gaelic speaking wife in Canada with 5 young children. There was lots of turmoil back then in the 1920s through even the 60s+. Maybe your grandfather had similar reasons for running.
@johnoneal1234
@johnoneal1234 Жыл бұрын
That's a great story and I wish you continued success.
@jjbiggmann5576
@jjbiggmann5576 Жыл бұрын
BEING IRISH, IS A STATE OF MIND.....HAVE GREAT "CRAIC". HERE IN IRELAND.
@kasunex1772
@kasunex1772 Жыл бұрын
When I did my DNA test, I actually found out I had more Irish than I thought (25% vs 45%~). However I did have a similar surprise - my Dad had always told me he had some distant native while my Mom told us we had some Jewish (on the maternal line, significantly). Well, I took the test, and I've got both native and Jewish ancestry...from opposite sides. My Dad has distant Jewish ancestry from his Polish ancestry, while my Mother has distant indigenous ancestry from her Ecuadorian ancestry.
@TomShelley-u4l
@TomShelley-u4l Жыл бұрын
Jewish ancestry on the maternal line is VERY significant because it is through that line that "Jewishness" is established.
@kasunex1772
@kasunex1772 Жыл бұрын
@@TomShelley-u4l Yeah my Mom thought we were jewish, but no
@terrymurphy4401
@terrymurphy4401 Ай бұрын
Im Irish that's a fact Murchadha was our real name before It was Anglicised. We came in the late 1840s to Quebec on the coffin ships.
@caribshogun9772
@caribshogun9772 Жыл бұрын
For a while my mother said we were mixed with Irish, but I did the DNA test through ancestry and her family is predominantly English and Welsh from our European ancestors and Scottish mix on my dad's side. Like how you said must assume. One fact that you did leave out is that in England and Scotland there actually were minority groups of Irish immigrants that did mixed with the local people.
@jjbiggmann5576
@jjbiggmann5576 Жыл бұрын
25%...OF "ENGLISH" TODAY...HAVE IRISH ANCESTRY.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 Жыл бұрын
Yes - 22% of British population has Irish DNA! (a third of the Welsh and nearly half of the Scottish DNA is Irish).
@RebeccaC2007
@RebeccaC2007 Жыл бұрын
@@johnpatrick5307 All down to close proximity and mixing between the islands. Most of us in Britain and Ireland are of mixed ancestry.
@christianwithers7335
@christianwithers7335 Жыл бұрын
The Irish invaded Ireland, Ireland belongs to the welsh. Irish and British DNA is very different
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 Жыл бұрын
@@christianwithers7335 Ireland belongs to the Welsh? First time I've ever heard that. Irish DNA is the most Indo-European(Aryan) in Europe. British DNA is really mixed. See: Son of Manu.
@rebeccawebb2298
@rebeccawebb2298 Жыл бұрын
When we moved to Appalachia, my two boys were very young. The first time I went to the school to pick up my kindergartener, I could not spot him in a group of his classmates because they all looked the same! I've never lived anywhere else where the genetics were so strong. I supect there's a lot of Scots Irish in my husband's line, and my sons have always looked like him.
@kcirtapelyk6060
@kcirtapelyk6060 11 ай бұрын
Your husband likely does have Scots-Irish ancestry, but he most likely has more English ancestry than anything else. The amount of Scots-Irish in Appalachia is often over exaggerated by historians. My family has deep Appalachian roots since my grandparents were from Eastern Kentucky. While we do have some Scots-Irish ancestry, it’s only our third most common ethnic group in our family tree. We have more English than anything else. Weirdly enough, we have more French Huguenot ancestry than Scots-Irish.
@risinggael1685
@risinggael1685 6 ай бұрын
Scots irish for the most part are english descendents of the lowland anglo scots...its the same with biden he calls himself irish but he is descended from anglo irish who are descended from the English...trump is actually more irish that biden trumps mother was a Scottish gael and Scottish gael the true scots are descended from the irish lol so trump is ultimately half irish and biden is english...ethnicly.
@modawg1111
@modawg1111 Жыл бұрын
All four of my Grandparents were born & raised in Ireland. My Parents are 1st generation Irish American. So, I’m 2nd gen Irish American. I claim the title as American. We are a melting pot of all races of the ppl of the world ! Proud to be American & Free ! 😉☘️🇺🇸🙏🤙
@Mugdorna
@Mugdorna Жыл бұрын
Non-Americans can also be “free”
@hueybridwell7756
@hueybridwell7756 Жыл бұрын
Because people aren’t free in Ireland?
@pedclarkemobile
@pedclarkemobile Жыл бұрын
"Free" in the militarised police state. Btw you only need 1 grandparent born in Ireland (any of the 32 counties) to qualify as an Irish Citizen, best passport you could have.
@charlesd3a
@charlesd3a Жыл бұрын
You're entitled to apply fir your Irish passport as you through Irish law are Irish also.
@pedclarkemobile
@pedclarkemobile Жыл бұрын
@@charlesd3a your only Irish if you apply for and receive citizenship. Citizenship is backdated to birth once the process is complete. There is a 2 year wait at the DFA currently, my son was born abroad and it's taking forever to get him registered as a foreign birth (first step to getting a passport).
@dylanandmolly3739
@dylanandmolly3739 2 ай бұрын
My Dad's English. My mum's from Kildare, Ireland from Anglo-Norman ancestry that went to Ireland in the mid 16th century. I was born in the Isle of Man, so Manx by birth. But I've always lived and worked in England, so I'm English through and through.
@sigurdfenrisson2446
@sigurdfenrisson2446 Жыл бұрын
One of my great grandfathers… William “Willy of Tildarg” Gilliland was a Coventor who fought the king and had to flee to Ulster. If you do a web search for him, there’s an account of his medieval John Wick actions, killing English dragoons because they found his hideout and killed his beloved doggo and stole his white mare. Which he took back upon spearing the dragoon who was on it, yelling to the others, “now, ride for it, you dogs!!” and led them on a 30 mile chase, before ultimately escaping. He was later captured and imprisoned, but then some time later released and granted land by the king. His son came to America… so, really not even a full generation in Ireland as Ulster Scots before becoming southern hillbillies.
@DaithiKerr68
@DaithiKerr68 7 ай бұрын
So let me get this right, you have a covenanter who is medieval? Who fled from the Kingdom of Scotland ruled by the Stuart dynasty at the time of the covenanting wars and he fled to Ulster which was ruled by the same Kings and where all Presbyterian males had To take the black oath and submit to Royal power. He then fought as a rebel in Ulster and was captured but pardoned and give a Pat. On the back and then went whistling off to the colonies at a time period when Scottish ships and merchants were not allowed access to American ports. OK any evidence for this big tale?
@sigurdfenrisson2446
@sigurdfenrisson2446 7 ай бұрын
@@DaithiKerr68 yup… go ahead and do a web search for William “Willie of Tildarg” Gilliland. There’s also a ballad from the 1700s about him called “Willy Gilliland, an Ulster Ballad”, written by Samuel Ferguson. There seems to be conflicting information about whether he was exiled to the “new country”, or his son John was. The also had another son, also named William. The Covenanter one was born 1647, and apparently died in 1679. I’ve read that he died in Londonderry and also New Jersey. So I’m assuming the New Jersey one was his son.
@GAMER123GAMING
@GAMER123GAMING 7 ай бұрын
Fvck off you have demons in your ancestry. you arent no human.
@McNastyxx95
@McNastyxx95 6 ай бұрын
I have ancestors who were from Ireland and some who were born native Americans from both parents natives. But I’m not Irish or native, I’m just American. 🇺🇸 From PA / WV and then OH.
@JNeace-er9yg
@JNeace-er9yg 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. I have Irish and Native heritage, but it's removed by 100 years, so I am not them.
@andym9571
@andym9571 Жыл бұрын
Even St Patrick wasn't Irish. He was from ( what is now ) Britain !
@marke4576
@marke4576 5 ай бұрын
Whales
@emcc8598
@emcc8598 4 ай бұрын
​@@marke4576Wales!
@nullusanxietas2379
@nullusanxietas2379 Ай бұрын
I'm a quarter irish from direct descent. But grandma was from the arse end of Kerry, so that counts for double. Her fecking accent was inscrutable. Even my dad would say, "I have no idea what she's on about." (If you have never heard a THICC Kerry accent, google it, it doesn't disappoint.)
@deborahpacheco2799
@deborahpacheco2799 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I've the name of the ship and the passengers record showing my ancestors on my Dad's side were indeed from Ireland, & have the documents from my Mom's side showing my Grandmother was indeed a Cherokee.
@Maw0
@Maw0 Жыл бұрын
At least you can actually claim those traits. I can claim the Irish one, not the Cherokee one.
@honey-feeney9800
@honey-feeney9800 5 ай бұрын
The scot-Irish were Protestant .
@ravenmccall5486
@ravenmccall5486 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I have been working on my tree for years. On my paternal side of the family, one branch always said they were Scots - Irish, while the other side is Scottish. I never understood the term Scots - Irish, and it's nice that you cleared that up for me. The timeline you laid out for the Irish immigrations' to America fits perfectly with what I have been able to find about my Scots - Irish branch! On my maternal side, Irish all the way, as I am only third generation American on that side. At least I have a better understanding as to why they came thanks to you! Slainte!
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 Жыл бұрын
There are no people called the "Scots-Irish" - that is an American racist term, invented in the 1800s. They were Irish before that.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 6 ай бұрын
Scots-Irish means Irish. The Irish have been there for three centuries.
@mxmamma_774
@mxmamma_774 11 күн бұрын
I didn’t really think that we were of Irish ancestry although my grandfather had said so. Then my brother got a DNA test and it showed north western Irish ancestry and Ui Naill genetic markers. Looked through my Ancestry history and sure enough my great grandma was from Donegal with the maiden name O’Neill. Always thought we were just a mix of Scottish, Norman, English and German on my paternal side.
@HowWeGotHere
@HowWeGotHere Жыл бұрын
Great video I've been finding a bit of the opposite in my family tree some of my family that had assumed were Scots are Ulster-Scots (preferred term in Canada still) so what I thought should have been almost a 50/50 split Irish (Paternal) / Scot (Maternal) isn't. The only reason is that I can think of is they were trying to assimilate better in what was a Scottish Presbyterian community
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the opposite of what he is saying - and I'd say they'd be far more who are Irish and DON'T know it!
@KingKumari
@KingKumari 3 ай бұрын
I’m a black man, my moms former life insurance agent was Irish with the full accent, he told me my last name which is Tullis was derived from Tully which he said was either Scottish or Irish which was interesting, after doing some research and talking to some older family members I found out my great grandfather was a “lily” white irish man by the the name of Charles Benjamin Tullis to my surprise, these are some of the people that I know with Scottish/Irish last names, McCorvey , McVay,McDonald, McDougal, McCalister, McKenzie, and McCormick, for the record they are all black, this can’t be just a coincidence, my cousin has red hair and freckles, his last name is Bailey, what gives??
@jamedia2454
@jamedia2454 2 ай бұрын
I’m Black and my ancestors from Iberia were Black not Lilly white.
@MrDoyle07
@MrDoyle07 2 ай бұрын
The “Mc” is usually a give-away to the Scot injections. The Irish did the “son-of” thing with the “O”.
@MsLhuntMartinez79
@MsLhuntMartinez79 2 ай бұрын
​@@MrDoyle07 Wow!! Really? 😮
@BurmaShane
@BurmaShane 2 ай бұрын
​@@MrDoyle07the Mc/Mac is also very common with Irish names, such as McMahon, McCarthy, McDonnell etc, etc. It's the family name that indicates Irish or Scottish. McGregor, McAllister, McDonald being examples of Scottish names.
@BurmaShane
@BurmaShane 2 ай бұрын
​@@MsLhuntMartinez79not really. Mc might be more common in Scotland but it's not a reliable rule.
@gwaptiva
@gwaptiva Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered about St Patrick's Day in the US, seeing that the majority of Irish in the US are protestants
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Yes after celebrating the holiday in Cork City, it was interesting to see the difference between there and the U.S.
@1952jodianne
@1952jodianne Жыл бұрын
Andrew Jackson was an Irish-American Presbyterian, but a member of the Hibernians & the Friendly Sons of St Patrick. And like most non-Anglican Irishmen, whether Catholic, Presbyterian, or otherwise, he hated the British with a passion.
@1952jodianne
@1952jodianne 7 ай бұрын
How so? I understand that the historical term, "Scots-Irish" or "Ulster Scots", refers to those people from the Scottish lowlands &/or Northumbria, who were planted in Ireland in the 16th through 18th centuries, & were primarily Presbyterian; however, my Scots-Irish ancestors were from Ulster, were of Highland Scots ancestry, & were either Anglican (Church of Ireland) or Catholic, & were descended from the Gallowglass who started coming to Ireland as mercenaries as early as the 9th century & as late as the Jacobite movement of the 17th & 18th centuries. They didn't fit the profile, but, nonetheless, were Irishmen of Scots ancestry. Many of my other Irish ancestors were not native Irish, but Hiberno-Norman, who often adopted native Irish ways, & became "more Irish than the Irish themselves". These folks were settled mostly in Leinster & eastern Munster, Dublin to Cork, & many places in between, having arrived in Ireland in the late 12th century, at the invitation of Dermot MacMurrough, the last native Irish king of Leinster, from whom I'm also descended.
@1952jodianne
@1952jodianne 7 ай бұрын
Irish-American Presbyterians of primarily lowland Scots planter ancestry. Doesn't really include me, my ancestors were mainly Church of Ireland or Catholic, & of Cambro-Norman origin. I'm Catholic myself (my father having been baptized a Maronite Catholic - different side of the family altogether, not Irish). @jonnyneace8928
@1952jodianne
@1952jodianne 7 ай бұрын
Anyway, the Scots-Irish Presbyterian, Andrew Jackson, proudly celebrated St. Patrick's Day, & was a member of both the "Friendly Sons of St. Patrick" & the "Ancient Order of Hibernians", which presumably wasn't an exclusively Catholic organization in Jackson's era. Of course, even today, non-Catholic Irish & non-Irish Catholics are eligible for associate membership.
@AnnieO100
@AnnieO100 4 ай бұрын
I’m Donaho on my dad’s side and Galloway on my mom’s side. I’m a street preacher at 63 years old. From what I can surmise we escaped in 1776. I also have Cherokee and Chickasaw grandmothers. Because they didn’t want to go down that trail of tears.
@kraziecatclady
@kraziecatclady Жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a little girl my mother once told me that we were Irish. I ran in the house to ask my grandfather because my mom often said inaccurate things. My grandfather reacted as if I had asked him something horrible and went into some kind of crazy almost incoherent rant about being Scottish. My grandmother, who normally would have said something to get him to stop ranting, went into her bedroom and was crying. I was very confused and decided not to ask that question again. At some point I got ahold of my grandmother's birth certificate and it said that her father was born in Ireland. She was also Roman Catholic and was in some manner disowned by her family for marrying my grandfather who was Southern Baptist. I found his birth certificate too and his mother was Protestant and was also born in Ireland. My grandmother had always claimed we were French and Canadian, so the birth certificate confused me quite a bit. My grandfather's birth certificate confused me too because of how vehemently he had reacted to the question compared to what I saw on his birth certificate. It wasn't until I was taking a college history course that talked about the Irish War of Independence that I put two and two together and realized what had happened that day. My grandmother must have been ashamed about her Irish heritage and my grandfather's mother must have been from the other side which I'm guessing is what you referred to as "Scot's Irish." I'm guessing that my grandmother must have hidden the fact that her father was Irish from my grandfather. They weren't very young when they got married, so it might not have been that difficult for her to hide. My grandmother always talked about being incredibly poor growing up and a lot of the struggles she went through. Sometimes she would talk about her father having trouble getting a job, but it was in a weird, hushed manner with a serious lack of detail. She was from Boston and my grandfather was from Ohio.
@laurielovett8849
@laurielovett8849 6 ай бұрын
Im Irish We are told crazy things by our parents. I was told my maternal grandfather was Methodist, but when I delved into genealogy I found that the marriage was not in his wife's parish as expected,couldn't find a record,then I was informed that marrying a Protestant she couldn't be married in her own parish but would have to travel 20 miles away and be married behind the altar. Right enough I found them married in Trim 25 miles away from Kildare. Quite a trot in 1882. In the 1901 census he was listed as RC ( perhaps wishful thinking on the part of someone) by 1911 census he was Church of England, not a mention of Methodist anywhere. No 1921 census available yet,but by then i think he had died. By all accounts a good husband and father, but I havnt a clue where he is buried,as none if his family attended his funeral R C Church didn't allow it. Would love to know where my grandfather is buried. Think he died 1911 as he left his job in the Railway that year, can't find his death record in civil records. His wife died 1931 I know where she is planted.
@therongjr
@therongjr Жыл бұрын
My father believed that he was 100% Irish. I did some research which showed that my last is from "MacGilleFhaolain" . . . and there was Scots branch and an Irish branch, but the Irish branch may have died out. This led me to believe that my father was actually Scots-Irish . . . except his family had been in western Pennsylvania (as farmers) since the early 1800s. So now I'm not sure anymore! 😆 My mom's family isn't any easier: a Polish spelling of a German (possibly Prussian) last name, but they immigrated from Austria-Hungary. 🤷‍♂️
@therongjr
@therongjr Жыл бұрын
Oh, my father was also proud that he was "lace curtain Irish" and not "shanty-town Irish." I later learned this wasn't exactly a compliment; I guess the lace-curtain Irish would try to affect a veneer of material success so as to pretend that they were better than their poorer counterparts.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Well if they were ok Western PA since the early 1800s, there is a VERY good chance that they are Scots-Irish since it was them and the Germans who predominantly settled there originally.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
I suppose we have lace curtain folks today too, lol.
@brucecollins641
@brucecollins641 Жыл бұрын
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy the english (mainly english) the welsh/scots/dutch/swedes/germans were the earliest settlers. the first settlement was a town called jamestown (named after the scottish king james who was also king of england and ireland at the time. these people woul have assimilated and morph into americans about a 100 years before their scots kin the ulster scots arrived then the later irish in the 1800s.
@Karl_with_a_K
@Karl_with_a_K Жыл бұрын
It's even more complicated than that 🤣, the Irish (gaels) settled Scotland, then came back to Ireland as Scots-Irish. The Mac or Mc in a surname means "Son of". The Irish branch of the name are still going strong but mainly known as O'Faoláin in the Irish (gaelic) language, the anglicised versions are Phelan, Whelan & McLellan.
@FRADAVE02
@FRADAVE02 Жыл бұрын
This is the same reason I call myself Sicilian, rather than Italian, as I referred to myself in my teens. When I got older and learned that Sicily was the crossroads of the ancient world, I realized that I was probably a patchwork of different ethnicities! 😊
@dannyregal
@dannyregal Жыл бұрын
Cecil Well said The further you go back then most of us are More in common than we realise
@georgiabelle5176
@georgiabelle5176 Ай бұрын
My ancestry DNA says I’m 58% from Ulster in Ireland. I was surprised because I thought I was Scottish 😂. I don’t know how I got so much Irish DNA since both sides of my family (as far as I know) were in the USA since before the Revolutionary War. My family did begin in the Chesapeake Bay Area before migrating South. I’m only 4%Scottish and the rest from England and Northwestern Europe.
@tommyanderson-filmmaker3976
@tommyanderson-filmmaker3976 Жыл бұрын
Growing up we were told we were Irish, when I got older and researched we had a rich Scot-Irish heritage coming to America in 1727 Philadelphia at Scott's Landing.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Yes sir, I actually bring up this situation in the video. The word “Scots-Irish” didn’t exist in their time, so they simply identified as Irish.
@Si_Mondo
@Si_Mondo Жыл бұрын
​@@familytreenutshistorygenealogyIt's a redundant term anyway, because Scotland is literally named after an Irish tribe which settled there.
@MiloManning05
@MiloManning05 Жыл бұрын
@@Si_Mondo Scot’s Irish means Anglo Saxon
@frankmorton1920
@frankmorton1920 Жыл бұрын
The Scots are a separate proud nation. The Irish are a separate nation. Americans always refer to the Scots/Irish who originally were Scottish immigrants to Ulster(Northern Ireland).
@THISISLolesh
@THISISLolesh Жыл бұрын
@@Si_Mondo Must be a yankee to say some shit like that.
@donnamatthews4250
@donnamatthews4250 Жыл бұрын
I had a DNA test taken and I am 16 percent Irish and 23 percent Scottish and mostly English. It's all interesting.
@lennysmom
@lennysmom Жыл бұрын
What I found doing my family tree is that you can trace English and German ancestors back for centuries, but trace someone born in Ireland and it’s a dead end. You would have to go back and look at parish records, if you could find them.
@katesleuth1156
@katesleuth1156 Жыл бұрын
@@shaunthompson8943 That’s what I’ve been told. There may however be parish records held in some parishes.
@jimbobarooney2861
@jimbobarooney2861 Жыл бұрын
Have you date of birth, or county or parish, many surnames in Ireland can still be very localised, there is 1901 & 1911 census freely available online, there is the tithe allotment book 1820s and 1830s, and Grifiths evaluation from 1850s, these only give head of household, some parish baptismal record also 1830s, not much earlier records, unless your ancestor was nobility or landowner
@lennysmom
@lennysmom Жыл бұрын
@@shaunthompson8943 Along with the 1890 census probably.
@lennysmom
@lennysmom Жыл бұрын
@@jimbobarooney2861 , thanks for the info and suggestions.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 6 ай бұрын
But they DO have clan names, there is ancestry right there - if you can tie in with a clan you can go back a long way!
@EqualOppSW
@EqualOppSW Ай бұрын
Yeah, my grandfather was born in Ireland and I am in the process of applying for dual citizenship (USA. Ireland). My mother is a first generation American. I am absolutely not Cherokee.
@maggied7368
@maggied7368 Жыл бұрын
It appears my Dads family came to Ireland from Scotland long ago before going to the USA. But some of my Moms ancestors were from County Clare. Of course we have plenty of German and Czech too lol.
@kathyborthwick6738LakotaEmoji
@kathyborthwick6738LakotaEmoji Жыл бұрын
My mother’s family is also from County Clare and My father’s family came from Donegal!
@jewabeus
@jewabeus Жыл бұрын
These are 2 of the greatest videos that I've ever seen. I'd say it turns my world upside down, but being born American isn't all that terrible. Seriously, from Alabama & have been told my entire life "great grandma was full blooded Cherokee" & mostly the rest is a mixture, but Irish for sure. LOL Wish the ones that told the tales when I was little were still alive. I do know the rest of my family stands firm in their beliefs, though. Guess I'm sticking with believing I'm a billionaire one call away from my true destiny. 🤣
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Thanks for the support! So, so common stories.
@TexasCorgiGun
@TexasCorgiGun 8 ай бұрын
I know, every white person in the US claims they are Irish. I find it hilarious
@patriciamurphy6730
@patriciamurphy6730 11 күн бұрын
My grandparents were from Dublin and Galway... Not Scott's Irish we like the Scottish people but not the Scott's Irish... Only because of England. We don't believe that England had the right to give away Irish land to those who were not Irish.
@AlienSpaceship471
@AlienSpaceship471 Жыл бұрын
You make very good videos, I learn a lot from them, on my dads side I'm mostly English and mixed with other Europeans groups; also I'm a little bit related to the Irish from the famine[ and the Scots Irish as well ] . My relatives are very pro British and were not discriminated against, my ancestors mixed and married with the English perfectly fine. Also many Irish both catholic and protestant served and serve in the army of the British Empire, IMO so many people like to play the victim card. Thanks again for your videos. I look forward to more.
@MiloManning05
@MiloManning05 Жыл бұрын
The Irish mixed with welsh settlers not English settlers
@AlienSpaceship471
@AlienSpaceship471 Жыл бұрын
@@MiloManning05 Understood, but mine mixed with the English. I'm a little bit related to the welsh also lol.
@jjbiggmann5576
@jjbiggmann5576 Жыл бұрын
@@AlienSpaceship471 YOU ARE A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING....ANY CHOREKEE..??
@AlienSpaceship471
@AlienSpaceship471 Жыл бұрын
@@jjbiggmann5576 lol , I could be a little bit related to them but I'm not sure, if I was related to them it would be very very far back.
@christianwithers7335
@christianwithers7335 Жыл бұрын
The Irish were ethnically English
@RobertJeffreyHill
@RobertJeffreyHill 11 ай бұрын
I was always told we were Irish-American growing up. It turns out, my mom’s family indeed were recent Irish Catholic immigrants to NYC. My father’s side, however, was Welsh and Scots-Irish who arrived in Appalachia pre-1776.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 6 ай бұрын
The Irish were there pre-1776. In fact, Washingtons troops celebrated St Patricks Day!
@honey-feeney9800
@honey-feeney9800 5 ай бұрын
All of my ancestors came to America in the 1880s . My name is Feeney. My mom was a Grier . Her mom was a Casey . My dad’s mom was an O’Malley . I’m not anything else but Irish . My family dug the Erie Canal , then settled in the hard coal in Scranton .
@LeeCaithness
@LeeCaithness Жыл бұрын
I understand what you say about relating to the lost cause. I’m from one of the Scottish islands (Stronsay in the Orkney archipelago) but my surname is the name of a highland region. (Caithness). As many highlanders were driven mercilessly from their homes, having them torched or knocked down to make way for modern farming due to the clearances. Many left for the US or Canada. However, some went only as far as the outlying islands. Hence I always suspected our ancestry lay with those poor people and I always felt I related to those people. I felt I couldn’t have a name like that without a connection to the area. My belief in this became greater when I read in a book of Orcadian Surnames that the name came to Orkney from Caithness around this point in history. Perhaps I’m just drawn to the nostalgic nature of the lost cause but I feel there must be something in that. I felt very proud in 2014 voting yes in that referendum even if it was unsuccessful. Who knows maybe it’s all coincidence. Anyway off to paint my face blue and yell freedom at the top of my lungs. (Yes I’m aware that film was a great piece of entertainment but horribly inaccurate.)
@duncancallum
@duncancallum 10 ай бұрын
You tell them Hen. Alba Gu Brath.
@sandex3000
@sandex3000 11 ай бұрын
What an amazingly eloquent video. As a Scottish person who has a Irish planter heritage, it is really nice to see you give so much info on an American perspective. It is hard enough for us who stayed within the British isles!! Well in, please spread this as far afield as you can!
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy 11 ай бұрын
Well thank you sir! I appreciate your support!
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy 9 ай бұрын
@user-xu6yl9qu5g That’s like saying humans originated in Africa and you are African. I get it, same Celts, etc. as you go back.
@leestirling4623
@leestirling4623 9 ай бұрын
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy except that humans didn't originate in Africa. That's been debunked time and again. When I lived in Scotland as a child they were all proud to tell me they originally came from Ireland, not sure if I really believed it as I was a child at the time though. I'm not sure what the scottish/Irish were originally called or why the name changes but here in Britain and Ireland we all originally come from the ten tribes of Israel. My people the Cymry have always been called the Cymry since the beginning. We had the name Welsh forced on us probably to hide who we really are. Maybe the same happened with the Irish. I do know that none of us are celts though.
@brucecollins641
@brucecollins641 9 ай бұрын
@user-xu6yl9qu5g rubbish. no scots came from ireland......other way round.
@tonymt2788
@tonymt2788 8 ай бұрын
What about st Patrick was he scots or is that rubbish as well 🤷‍♂️​@brucecollins641
@jessicamceachern602
@jessicamceachern602 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video! I’m Irish on my dad’s side -both his parents had family from Ireland. One I know was from County Clare, another from Galway. The comment about wanting to be a certain heritage because you want to identify with a certain struggle resonated with me. My grandfather was not just Irish, but Scottish as well, and I learned his ancestors on that side fought in the Battle of Culloden against the English (and paid for it when they lost…ended up moving to Canada to start their lives over).
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I’m glad that you enjoyed. Yes, it is an interesting concept that we are drawn to our ancestors that had struggles more than those who had it easier.
@tomjackson4374
@tomjackson4374 Жыл бұрын
I have a whole company of my family at Culloden (Gordon) and the family moved to South Carolina after they lost. I am Scots-Irish English but don't care. I am a Southerner, born in Mississippi and all my family fought for the Confederacy. That is my heritage.
@davidtrindle6473
@davidtrindle6473 Жыл бұрын
My ancestors are 100% irish as far back as we have records to 1728 when they emigrated to Pennsylvania.
@Ionabrodie69
@Ionabrodie69 Жыл бұрын
@@davidtrindle6473But YOU are American NOT Irish.. 😊👍
@leod-sigefast
@leod-sigefast Жыл бұрын
The battle of Culloden wasn't the Scottish vs English (another common misconception from history) it was pro-Jacobite Highland Scottish (mainly Catholic supporters of the exiled King James) rebelling against pro-British pro-William (later pro Hanoverian) mainly Protestants forces (the majority of England, Scotland, and Ulster supported this). So sides at Culloden were mainly some Highlander Scot clans (Jacobites) fighting against Scottish regiments and English regiments of the British Army/government forces. A rebellion in its truest sense. Culloden was a decisive battle of the long Jacobite rebellion which sought to restore the Stuart dynasty to the throne of Great Britain (there were supporters from Ireland, parts of Scotland, even some English). Because James II was Catholic the majority of England, Scotland and Ulster (Northern Ireland) supported the Protestant King and the British government. You seem to have been snared again by the American simplification of British and Irish history as: Scots & Irish (Goodies) vs English (Evil Baddies). Culloden was NOT a Scottish independence battle against the English as many wrongly like to portray it.
@michellekirwan-woods7623
@michellekirwan-woods7623 Ай бұрын
I've been able to trace both sides of my family to the Republic of Ireland via death certificates and Ancestry.
@redheaddetective8424
@redheaddetective8424 Жыл бұрын
This is interesting. I’ve seen people in Ireland that have taken a DNA test that was between like 50-75%. I was born in America, so we’re my parents, and grandparents, but my great grandparents were all Irish. My ancestry came out at 90%. We also have a lot of blue eyed redheads In my family.
@Sandwich13455
@Sandwich13455 Жыл бұрын
Inbreds
@seanfaherty
@seanfaherty Жыл бұрын
oh, but we're not Irish
@redheaddetective8424
@redheaddetective8424 Жыл бұрын
@@seanfaherty 😉
@eoghaincooper4248
@eoghaincooper4248 Жыл бұрын
I guarantee if you use a different DNA test company you'll get a completely different percentage... Your DNA test doesn't make you Irish... It's a matter of nationality and culture
@redheaddetective8424
@redheaddetective8424 Жыл бұрын
@@eoghaincooper4248 So, you’re an expert on DNA, then? I didn’t say that it made me Irish. I’m well aware that I’m American, but the majority of my ancestry is Irish, but apparently you know my ancestry better than I do. Kick rocks, buddy.
@richardjohnston3359
@richardjohnston3359 Жыл бұрын
I'm English and very proud of this did a Ancestry DNA test says I'm more Irish then English I don't know how accurate these things are great video ?
@obi-ron
@obi-ron Жыл бұрын
There are videos out there that explain the prehistoric migration of humans across Europe which might help put things about your ethnicity into perspective and realise that most of the nonsense used to identify people is more territorial than actual. If you go too far with this sort of stuff you could end up swearing fealty to the King of Wessex, or Duke of Milan.
@EpicAelflaed
@EpicAelflaed 7 ай бұрын
There is no Irish dna unless you’re referring to the basque region of Celtic peoples around Spain were the Irish came from originally Also Scot’s Irish ancestors came from the lowlands of Scotland and were of Scottish and English descent - they settled in Ireland and were called she Scot’s Irish as in Scotland to Ireland
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 6 ай бұрын
@@EpicAelflaed The Irish came from the Steppes, through Europe and Gaul. The Irish definitely have DNA - R1b.
@EpicAelflaed
@EpicAelflaed 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@johnpatrick5307 Yes though it’s not Irish DNA as they are an ethnicity. They are not a race. They are traced back to three types of genome from Europe mixed together. Depends how far you want to go back? Then centuries ago, the Germanic Scandinavian Vikings came to Ireland and many settled and mixed with the natives.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 6 ай бұрын
@@EpicAelflaed You really haven't a great handle on things have you: the Irish don't come from Spain, the British do. The people who now use the old name for the Irish, Scots, are a bit of a mystery.
@defenestrationfan
@defenestrationfan 6 ай бұрын
WE always thought we were English with American Indian mixed in since we had very pale complexions and dark hair. Several family members did the genetic ancestry tests - shocking result = 99.2 percent Irish, .8 percent Iberian Peninsula. So yes we ARE Irish - Black Irish if you will.
@Skitara71
@Skitara71 Жыл бұрын
Just to confuse it a little bit more the Scots that Scotland is named for are an Irish tribe that invaded and called the land Scotland after themselves
@brucecollins641
@brucecollins641 Жыл бұрын
skitara71.....you should do a bit research . there was no irish tribe raided scotland. that's a mythical tale written by medieval irish monks to create an identity from ireland. there is nothing(archaeological/historical) in scotland to suggest so.here's one to start you off.....type in......ireland and the celtic culture in search of ancient ireland knowth.........click on to the -irish pre-history part. there's more. scotland does not get its name from ireland.
@brucecollins641
@brucecollins641 8 ай бұрын
@skitara71.......jist to confuse it a bit more.....the scots were never a tribe from ireland who invaded scotland. onyhoo, before you mis-educate the world on the origins of scots......you must first educate it on your own history , so explain the origins of the mythical scots in ireland. from where/when and by what route did they git to ireland. this should be easy fer you.
@TXEROXT
@TXEROXT Жыл бұрын
Genetic testing revealed to me and all my friends how completely unreliable most parents are when it comes to where we REALLY came from. I was always told we were Souix Indian and German... 23 and me says Irish, English, and Scandinavian. Lol! 😆 🤣 😂
@mikesame8321
@mikesame8321 Жыл бұрын
What do you think the reason for that would be I mean that I know the Irish were looked upon very poorly when we first got here but why do you think your parents would lie about that? Or rather your ancestors because if your parents were told that they wouldn't be lying anymore than you would be if you told your kids without doing your 23andMe tree. But I think that's the only reason is because of you see Iris suffered on getting here and I had not heard a lot of them change their names I know a lot of Jewish people after the Holocaust change their names so that they could never be rounded up like they were so horribly. But I'd not heard of anyone changing their name to not sound Irish or telling their neighbors and their family that they're not ours to protect them suffer some reason like I said I know we were shit on when we got here but I had not heard anyone doing that before
@TXEROXT
@TXEROXT Жыл бұрын
@@mikesame8321 I think you Nailed it with their names! According to the research I've done so far and the experts I've spoken with, the Spanish in my family comes from Spanish conscripts which were forced by the English to colonize northern Ireland. After so many generations of intermingling with the Irish, they became a bit more Irish than Spanish. Eventually some made it to America but the experts I've spoken with so far all agree they were more likely than not brought to America as Irish slaves. As far as I can tell all of my ancestors in America changed their names from Irish last names to occupational names and the same set of first names were given to every generation over and over for multiple generations. It actually gets quite confusing (ie: James Fred has a son named Fred James who has a son named James Fred on and on and many similar variations even among the women). Even their last names changed every couple generations. It's as if they didn't want anyone to be able to trace their lineage. I've been told that they were probably hiding more than just their Irish heritage which I believe more and more as I do more research. It sounds as tho you are also of Irish descent. If so, I would love your feedback and to know what you've discovered as well.
@mikesame8321
@mikesame8321 Жыл бұрын
@@TXEROXT yeah the English were pretty damn bad back in the day they were worse than the Nazis they try to take over the whole world and make everybody pay them taxes which is why America became America. And it's why my Irish grandmother asked my older brother in the 80s in high school and she was at our house and he had a friend from London in the school come over and my grandmother pull them aside and asked him what he was doing hanging around with a red coat. I was like what the hell is a red coat? And then my grandmother started bitching about how bad the Irish for treason In America which turned out to be true as well but I certainly am not going to hold and living English person alive today responsible for that that would be utterly moronic and a total week victim mentality Chrissy jacket because the English have fucked over my ancestor so badly and literally chasing the fuck out of Ireland. but I still completely understand the idea of me saying hey you are English your ancestors to this to my ancestors I want money now is ridiculous it's moronic and it's for people that aren't able to make it on their own it's people that are looking for just another handout to say your ancestors treated my ancestors badly so you have to give me money. I think that's what's happening here in America? Yeah then blackfellas is doing it. Funny how they're not looking for any reparations from the black Africans and initially enslave their ancestors because of his 14 that we would have never had slaves in America other than the Indians they kept slaves they enslave each other and they also have black slaves after the civil war which which was literally the last legal slaves in the United States was African slaves owned by Indians on their reservations their sovereign Nations and they told him I know we bought these things they belong to us and we're not giving them away and you have no say over what goes on our sovereign landso the American government had to pay the Indians that had slaves on their tribal land pay for every single one of them and the Indians just set them off their land with nothing but the clothes on their. I all kinds of people do all kinds of horrible shit you know. Amazing coincidence though that the people with no money right now the people in this country with a lease fucking money are going after money the country that treated the slaves from the transatlantic slave trade better than any other country did and you better believe we did and we only got about 7% of the total slaves that were kidnapped by blacks and Africa and solcum merchant ships in Africa not one single American went to Africa and cook a slave they were brought here and sold. So how come the blacks are not interested in reparations from the black Africans that initially enslaved their ancestors could possibly be because those people don't have shit to take? Sounds like an ambulance-chasing lawyers lawsuits just Sue everybody that you can possibly making an argument against for your claim so this way you have as many people to collect from and that's not what's going on here with Africa because they'll never collect from them but it is just a money grab from America and then try to collect from the one with the deepest
@RebeccaC2007
@RebeccaC2007 Жыл бұрын
@@TXEROXT The English forced the Spanish to invade Ireland and colonise it lol! I've heard it all now. Please don't tell me you think Braveheart is real. Please educate yourself on history and not made up stuff. Look at what the Spanish did, invading coastal parts of Ireland, Wales and England. No one forced them - the Spanish were a seafaring people who conquered many places, including most of South America. Honestly some of the guff on here people spout and worryingly believe is cringe.
@TXEROXT
@TXEROXT Жыл бұрын
@@RebeccaC2007 I'm not here to fight with anyone... Nor did I claim to be a history teacher. I was simply relaying what I was told by self-proclaimed experts. EVERY Country on this planet teaches history from a very ethnocentric point of view. Perhaps, instead of coming across all confrontational, you could try approaching this conversation more as a just a teacher that understands that ignorance and prejudice exists everywhere and that any would-be students respond a thousand times better to a tiny pinch of sugar than 2 tons of salt. Perhaps you could even share a KZbin link or other sources that discusses this truth you speak of in a way that isn't biased by the views of other nations? Honestly, I don't claim to "know" anything. I'm just a seeker of the truth. Thanks for pointing this out. I've done a fair amount of research that keeps saying the British forced Spanish slaves to colonize parts of Ireland. I'll do more research. If anyone reading this comment has sources to share, that would be greatly appreciated. 🙏
@samjam2376
@samjam2376 6 ай бұрын
My mom's name was Green, and my dad's name was Collins, but I have never done my family tree. I'm also a poor Hillbilly from Prestonsburg KY.
@DaDoM123
@DaDoM123 Жыл бұрын
I'm mostly of English ancestry and proud of it.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
As you should be.
@matthew-dq8vk
@matthew-dq8vk 3 ай бұрын
You don't look it tbh
@DaDoM123
@DaDoM123 3 ай бұрын
@@matthew-dq8vk 59%
@lunalou8888
@lunalou8888 6 ай бұрын
Im australian and my grandmother was Irish ... i will always celebrate her and our heritage
@patrickmckiernan8706
@patrickmckiernan8706 Жыл бұрын
I’m 82% Irish, 11% English & 7% Scandinavian! Third generation, Irish, all my great-grandparents were from Ireland! Very proud to be Irish!
@JustinHH22
@JustinHH22 Жыл бұрын
I reckon you might be a Viking👍👍
@whelenhunter4469
@whelenhunter4469 Жыл бұрын
Good video. I'm happy to say I'm American.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Yes sir, that is a description that is becoming more, and more popular. Like the Scots-Irish became a distinctive group, we Americans are as well.
@TheTrueOnyxRose
@TheTrueOnyxRose Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s enough to say that, no matter how popular. That erases a lot and borders on lying-by-omission.
@kevinmurphy65
@kevinmurphy65 10 ай бұрын
When I did my DNA, and I did three different companies to get a good sample, you know, the scientific method, and with each one that came back I was informed that, even though I am an American, I had more actual Irish DNA than most existing Irish in Ireland. It averaged 87%. VERY interesting that you would highlight this.
@purplepanther2771
@purplepanther2771 9 ай бұрын
I was shocked when we had more British & Irish than the English, Scottish, and Welsh averages on 23andMe. It was close to 97%. My family is always labelled Scots-Irish because they've been in Appalachia for a zillion years. I have dozens of Native Irish, Highland Scottish, Welsh, and Western English ancestors and Gaelic surnames that start with Mc, but they still insist on labelling me Scots-Irish, which is in the mix too.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 6 ай бұрын
@@purplepanther2771 Term "Scots-Irish" was made up by Americans - they would originally been called Irish.
@laurielovett8849
@laurielovett8849 6 ай бұрын
Most Irish particularly around Eastern Ireland have a lit if Viking DNA as they intermarried and some took Irish wives back to Norse countries
@emcc8598
@emcc8598 4 ай бұрын
I'm Irish and have 99% Irish ancestry and 1% Norweigin from Viking raiders...
@clouddz
@clouddz 3 ай бұрын
I mean that would be Celtic DNA, not specifically Irish, this video is slightly misleading.
@Pattiizincognito
@Pattiizincognito 3 ай бұрын
My maiden name is Feagan. My aunt told me that her grandfather John Fagan added the e to avoid the draft. Caught a boat in Denmark and came here. My mother maiden name is O’Dell. My great grandfather married a full blood Cherokee. My mother said she remembered her having to cut her hair bc it was so long she was stepping on it
@jennaross6654
@jennaross6654 Жыл бұрын
3% Irish Lol. Found out I am far more Scot than Irish.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 Жыл бұрын
What does "Scottish" mean? - its nearly as big a mixture as the USA!
@jennaross6654
@jennaross6654 Жыл бұрын
@@johnpatrick5307 my DNA states it. Great grandfather was from Scotland. Lots of ancestors from there.
@brucecollins641
@brucecollins641 8 ай бұрын
@@jennaross6654 well, the scots were one of the first to migrate there along with the welsh and english(english being the most. then about a 100 years later their scots kin the ulster scots arrived. then the later irish.
@songsofsusannah
@songsofsusannah 3 ай бұрын
My dad was 1/4 Irish. I have two third great-grandparents from County Mayo, one from County Wexford, and one from County Monaghan. My mother also has ancestors from Ireland. Some of them are from old Irish families like Lauglis, and others are Scots-Irish. On my mother's side, I'm not always sure which are which. My father's sister's ancestry results do show 26% Irish. (I also have Cherokee ancestry on my mother's side, but that's a whole other subject!)
@chrisbricky7331
@chrisbricky7331 Жыл бұрын
An interesting topic and might apply to some people. But others have clear and very linear family trees. I can personally trace my family in America to 1638 and that same family to 138 AD in Ireland. My last name is fairly unique in the world. Mine is Bricky which was misspelled by the US Army because my dad was born without a birth certificate and they took the 'e' out of the name and would never fix it. So my family name is Brickey. That name is traceable right to two brothers both Irish mercenaries that immigrated to the Virginia Colony in 1638. They were 'Wild Geese' or Irish mercenaries fighting for catholic countries in the 30 years war during the early 1600's of Protestants vs Catholics, etc. They were granted minor nobility status in France under the marshall of France from the King and their titles and lands were stripped by Richelieu himself and given to his family because they supported the King of France and not Richelieu, plus the Cardinal stole more land from people than most know becoming the largest land holder in France. Before the Bricky, Brickey, O'Brickey, O'Brick family fled Ireland they were known as one of the septs that supported the king of Ireland and the name O'Brick goes back to 138 AD. Because our family name was misspelled by the government our family is quite unique. Are we Irish, no but we are of Irish descent. Are we Cherokee, that is even more clear as I am registered with the Bureau of Indian Affairs and had 3 of 4 grand parents on my Father's mother's side that were born either on the reservation or on the rolls in the Indian Territories and they are as close to 100% native as it gets according to their pictures and of course the paper work of the BIA. So very funny topic and hilariously doesn't really apply to some people. But keep kidding yourself. As for DNA for natives. In a recent excavation of a cemetery in Florida dating back to 13,000 years ago they found that all of the bodies had a DNA haplo group from Europe as well as what would be considered native DNA. That predates Columbus and the Viking trips to the new world and puts those people having been there at the time of the Clovis Point Culture. Which in my opinion was a culture from Europe as no known Siberian cultures ever produced Clovis style points and the points migrated East to West across the Americas not the other way. And there is a European stone age culture that made early style Clovis points that could have quite easily migrated island to island or along the ice shelf during the last few ice ages as sea levels were 600 feet lower and many islands now submerged in the north atlantic were visible during the entire trip from mainland Europe to America. Please keep up the good work and keep telling people they don't know their own family history. It is an interesting way to sell yourself and your business to taunt others about what they don't know. Chris
@TezzaCrow
@TezzaCrow Жыл бұрын
You're very fortunate to have an extensive knowledge of your ancestry. He did say, very pointedly in the beginning of the video, that it doesn't apply to everyone, so I fail to understand your snarkiness towards him at the end of your comment, but that's my problem, not yours. Congratulations 🎉 on knowing your family tree. I'm still working mine.
@aine1169
@aine1169 11 ай бұрын
I'm an Irish historian and you are either delusional or lying if you think you can trace your ancestors back to 138AD. 😂😂😂
@chrisbricky7331
@chrisbricky7331 11 ай бұрын
Where does the name O'Brick come from? He was one of the three sons of Con of the Hundred Battles. He is the sole progenitor of the name O'Brick, Brick, Bricky, Brickey. In America we can trace our family directly to two brothers 'Wild Geese' both of them who were Irish Mercenaries that moved to Virginia in 1638 after being chased out of France by Richelieu. Back from there its harder to trace, but the name is not hard to trace. There is only one place it came from. But is it solid, foolproof. No, its anecdotal just like all history is. His Story is not fact, its fiction. But since the story of O'Brick is third party and so is Con of the 100 battles. Its not hard to figure out where our last name comes from. But please, Irish Historian, enlighten me with your research. Instead you made a statement of fact without knowledge. Not much of a scientific method involved there. There is an entire book in the Library of Congress written about the two brothers and that follows the family tree to present day. But let's see what your research turns up. Or do you just walk into houses and throw fire bombs before finding out any of the important bits of the situation? Chris Bricky. Direct descendant of the first O'Brick son of Con of the Hundred battles. But that is according to Irish History and famous published historians. Or are you one of those bigoted Irish historians that get angry, mad and petulant when anybody not born in Ireland claims Irish ancestry and then must attack them to make yourself feel better? Please explain, extrapolate, show sources. I will await your research and results. Thanks, Chris
@jasoncallow860
@jasoncallow860 11 ай бұрын
It's all bullshit made up to take your money. Why are yanks so obsessed with lineage. I don't go round saying I'm Anglo-Saxon or my ancestors were the Beaker people. It's bloody weird.
@aine1169
@aine1169 10 ай бұрын
@@chrisbricky7331 lol. You're not Irish mate and your "family tree" is fabricated. The fact that you actually seem to think it's legitimate is pathetic.
@lindakillian3667
@lindakillian3667 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this interesting video. It clarified the difference between Irish and Scots-Irish for me. I became interested in studying UK history after doing my DNA. I had never heard about Irish or Scottish ancestors before those results came back. It might be of interest that my grandmother was a Vancleave, I see that they traveled and even married into the Boone family.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
I’m glad that you enjoyed! I’d say that in you had early settlers to the Kentucky frontier that you are certainly at least partially Scots-Irish.
@1952jodianne
@1952jodianne Жыл бұрын
Daniel Boone's wife was Rebecca Bryan Boone, whose grandfather, Morgan Bryan, was Irish. Her grandmother, Martha Strode(Stroud) Bryan's mother was a Redmond, definitely Irish, from County Wexford. I'm the grandson of Samuel Strode, Martha Bryan's nephew. My first Irish immigrant ancestor was Peter Butler, who came to Virginia from Ireland, ca. 1640-1660; my last was James McKay McKissick, who came to Kentucky from Ireland, with his parents, in 1806. In between, there were Redmonds, Laceys, Usshers, Carltons, Swifts, Perrys, Burkes, Storeys, McGills, McIntyres, Greggs, Hoppers, Nickells (Nicholls), Days, etc. Some of these names are Scots-Irish, some are Anglo-Irish (Hiberno-Norman), & some are native Irish. They're hard to sort out, as they have been throughout history, so I should caution "FTN,H&GS" not to over-generalize
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
@@johnpatrick5307 That is true, and from the many comments from your countrymen in this feed, they weren’t Irish in the first place. I have acknowledged that they certainly were mixed.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 Жыл бұрын
@@1952jodianne Yes - he'd mark you all as "Scots Irish", because he maintains the Irish were not in America at that time. He'd write the Irish out of history.
@brucecollins641
@brucecollins641 8 ай бұрын
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy type in.........ulster-scots came to america the first american census taken in 1790 by jeanette holland......by the way many of these ulster-scots would still have been full scots having lived in ireland a few years or even months then migrating to amerikay due to the ani-scotttish sentiment in ireland.
@repetemyname842
@repetemyname842 8 ай бұрын
My GGGrandfather stated in his marriage certificate he was from Ireland. I have met 3rd cousins online who also report their lineage going back to Ireland but none of us know which town or parish our people come from, its been a very frustrating journey despite all the DNA testing and whatnot. I have found some info online, people with the same name as his parents and possible siblings but nothing concrete. Someday, maybe.
@kellyhawkes3191
@kellyhawkes3191 Жыл бұрын
I'm Welsh and have really enjoyed hearing of Appalachian culture, a very vibrant people.
@jessikamoore5033
@jessikamoore5033 6 ай бұрын
Thank you and I love Wales, too!
@WNActivist88
@WNActivist88 Жыл бұрын
My grandmother 100 percent comes from Irish stock, we even checked the family tree. Her father was a first generation American, and both of his parents come from Ireland in the 1800's. Not sure exactly when they came over though.
@mikehcharles
@mikehcharles 9 ай бұрын
You may have solved a problem for me that I hadn’t thought of. I have one line from Lancaster, PA that is Scots-Irish but dead ends in Lancaster. From the census they claim their parents were born in this country and one census specifies PA however no record of their parents seems to exist. It now seems possible that they their parents were NOT born in the US but they recorded that they were to avoid stigmatizing. Thanks for giving me another road to try.
@MaryIannacone
@MaryIannacone 7 ай бұрын
My grandmother was an immigrant from county Meath in 1930. We’ve been to Ireland twice and have met all my cousins. My grandmother still has her brogue and was a second mom to me. My grandfather has Irish roots too but have some info about his family but not a lot. They came in the 1870’s ? I think. Had my DNA done and the Irish is there along with some scotch and wales and Scandinavia but those are very small amounts.
@Dhhhhj27
@Dhhhhj27 6 ай бұрын
Aren't they half English in that county?
@ny3683syr
@ny3683syr 9 ай бұрын
For most of my life I believed I was mostly Irish, but in my seventies I discovered that I am mostly Scots-Irish, English, Dutch, and have some Irish, too. I was completely shocked by this discovery.
@EpicAelflaed
@EpicAelflaed 7 ай бұрын
Scot’s Irish is Scottish and English descent .. they came from the lowlands of Scotland and they settled in Ireland or planted as the Irish say .. hence the name Scot’s Irish
@cliffordbowman6777
@cliffordbowman6777 6 ай бұрын
I’m American, yesterday is gone. If you can be American you wouldn’t want to be anything else. Screw all that don’t cherish their AMERICAN heritage.
@cookielady7662
@cookielady7662 Жыл бұрын
Late to the party, but I enjoyed this video. My mother always told me her mother's family was "Scotch-Irish," so at least my family used that term in the 50 and 60s. Since then I've verified it's true, learning they settled in Appalachia. I also have a smidgeon of "real" Irish, meaning not Scots Irish, but I'm mostly English. There's also some Native American in my background, but Nansemond, not Cherokee. We know this because of a verified paper trail. I am very proud of my roots and who I am. TFS.
@edmckay8001
@edmckay8001 Жыл бұрын
Proud?
@gregmcmillan3503
@gregmcmillan3503 11 ай бұрын
Just a heads up, no Scottish person would ever call themselves "Scotch". We are "Scots" not "Scotch".
@cookielady7662
@cookielady7662 11 ай бұрын
Yes, I'm aware of that and meant no disrespect. It's what my grandmother and mother said though, and why I put it in quotes. I'm a great grandmother so that gives you some idea of the time period my grandmother and mother would have used the term. And, if you'll notice, I used the term Scots Irish also in the reply because it's what I say. @@gregmcmillan3503​
@trishbirmingham2295
@trishbirmingham2295 Жыл бұрын
After doing an ancestral DNA test I was surprised how much Irish I am. My father was English with known Irish ancestors going back to 1705. My mother’s Irish connection is with the potato famine. So colour me surprised when my Irish percentage was 72 and the English was a mere 20. Looks like my father was more Irish than he knew. I am not from any f the areas you mentioned. I am Australian and my known Irish ancestors came from Limerick and Cork.
@johnoneal1234
@johnoneal1234 Жыл бұрын
You should consider that any siblings may have entirely contradictory results. Also, different companies use different markers and interpret them differently. That's why there are vids of multiple companies compared here on KZbin and siblings comparing differing results.
@maureen9115
@maureen9115 Жыл бұрын
My family left Ireland in the 1930s from Donegal. My dna shows all Irish accept 2% Iberian & 2% Norway. I have had these Ulster Irish Americans tell me I don’t look Irish. But upon visiting family in Ireland, the people can tell what county my family comes from.
@marieO07
@marieO07 Жыл бұрын
@@maureen9115 I've never heard of an Ulster Irish American . That's such a strange thing for someone to say cause it makes no sense and is incorrect...... they clearly don't know what side they're talking out of to be honest. My ancestors went to America less than 100 years ago too from Donegal, we could be related . Stay smiling x
@maureen9115
@maureen9115 Жыл бұрын
@@marieO07 I made up this definition based on history of the Brits placing their own people & the Protestant Scotch into Northern Ireland to try & convert the native Irish in this area in order for them to recognize the King of England as head of the church/country & hoped to have more control over the Irish. Many Americans claim Irish ancestry due to having an ancestor born in Ireland but not knowing that they are not of Irish descent. My immediate family lived west of Derry where there were many turmoils over this & allegiances. My grandmother who raised me was a hedge teacher & her sisters taught school there. There were 12 siblings. Most of the brothers died in the skirmishes & buried on the family farm land but the parents were later buried in Ballybofey. They were O’Donnells with a long history in Donegal back beyond King Red Hugh & my grandmother was born in 1882 in Claughan. My father’s family came from Letterkenny. I knew little of my parents, whereby they died & my grandmother died afterwards. I was sent to Ireland & brought back to the states by an uncle to live in a convent school. I have a cousin who has your name Marie McGlinchey that was Miss Balleybofey back in the day that still lives there. I am sure that in Donegal has a lot of inbreeding with their original residents that were 3rd cousins. My father’s family share not too distant cousins with my mother’s side when I did a dna. They didn’t even realize this having detached from their homeland.
@MrResearcher122
@MrResearcher122 Жыл бұрын
@@maureen9115 Donegal people tend to look Scottish. My grandad was from Lettermakward, Donegal. Donegal Gaelic is similar to Scottish Gaelic.
@independentcomicsfan2867
@independentcomicsfan2867 Ай бұрын
My moms side is Scottish and Scots-Irish and growing up my family just said we were Scottish, I didn't know about our Scots-Irish ancestors until I researched it. My family never associated as Irish so I was surprised to find that.
@jenniferbush41
@jenniferbush41 Жыл бұрын
I'm 8% Irish! 😂 A lot more British & Scottish though.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
That’s a common mix but definitely so much to be proud of.
@bigbird6039
@bigbird6039 Жыл бұрын
Jennifer My parents came from Galway, I was born in England and grew up in Wales. However even if I had a Scots influence, I’d still be 100% British. xx
@kurtbogle2973
@kurtbogle2973 19 күн бұрын
The Irish outlook is what makes the Irish the princes of the Celts. Their sense of fairplay is unmached.
@Whittdocs
@Whittdocs Жыл бұрын
Love these ancestry videos.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support! Love your channel as well!
@globaltraveller
@globaltraveller Ай бұрын
I’m not sure the Scots-Irish moniker is right in a sense. These people were Scottish not Irish. Or perhaps Ulster-Scottish is more appropriate?
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy Ай бұрын
The word they are described by depends on where you are from.
@maureen5132
@maureen5132 Жыл бұрын
I am Scottish, my father a Scotsman my mother an Irishwoman. Living in Ireland for many years and the Irish who can trace their line back seven generations are Irish. I can trace my Irish family back further and my Scottish ancestry back to Archibald Campbell (my maiden name) fifth Earl of Argyle, oh and by the way the spelling is "Scots" not "scotch" which is a whiskey.
@businessbuilder92
@businessbuilder92 Жыл бұрын
Sorry your not Irish
@maureen5132
@maureen5132 Жыл бұрын
@@businessbuilder92 Where did I say I am? Can you actually read?
@businessbuilder92
@businessbuilder92 Жыл бұрын
@@maureen5132 and I know that, I was just quoting the video lol
@richardhinman3046
@richardhinman3046 Жыл бұрын
"Scotch- Irish" is acceptable. (see Wikipedia). It's an Americanism and the same as Scots-Irish.
@johnpatrick5307
@johnpatrick5307 Жыл бұрын
@@businessbuilder92 Good one - You're not allowed to be Irish, he says, anything but Irish.
@shawnhoffman7120
@shawnhoffman7120 5 ай бұрын
Well, I already knew I have Irish ancestors, there’s a book published about my great great grandfather’s immigration and well, my mother’s side is undeniably extremely Irish to the point of keeping ties with politicians and catholic priests from our family still in Ireland. That being said, that Cherokee line gave me a good chuckle. My Father’s side just had been playing telephone with the information that we were “Indian” for years, my dad has all this Native American stuff in his house and you can clearly see how that side has been getting progressively less brown skinned over time. I took a DNA test and not a drop of Native American DNA detected, how could that be? Well, it turns out no one was lying, we’re “Indian”, as in from India. And some African thrown in as well to further explain the complexion. Somewhere during the generational telephone game someone figured it was easier to let their kids be part Native American than bother to explain it detail. They apparently just decided to omit the part about being Chinese as well. It’s pretty wild what you find out once you do some digging, can’t just take granny’s word for it!
@nicks3257
@nicks3257 Ай бұрын
My situation is a little different. I had no idea I had Irish ancestry until I underwent DNA testing. The verdict? At least 23% Irish, possibly more!
@LogosRespeckter
@LogosRespeckter Ай бұрын
The history of Ireland truly is a history of invasions and culture clashes. One of the most famous mythological/historical books of Ireland is literally called The Book of Invasions (Lebor Gabála Érenn)
@GreebleClown
@GreebleClown Ай бұрын
You saved yourself quite a tongue lashing after two minutes there lol. I was about to go off on you about how I have paperwork going back pre-civil war that says otherwise. My grandpop’s name was O’Neil. My father is known as “the Italian who married an Irishwoman” (despite having a German last name, but no one really talked about great grandpa for some reason and he’s the one who came from there. 🤔)
@vincentcorrigan5209
@vincentcorrigan5209 Ай бұрын
Grand parents on both sides ..Born in Co.Clare and in Armagh.. my Parents met in NYC.. in Irish neighborhood. We celebrate our heritage as Irish. Am I irish? Duh!
@meanleanbean1628
@meanleanbean1628 3 ай бұрын
The tricky thing I find about living in the Americas and not being of a recent immigrant background is it can be tricky to stake out an identity aside from just identifying with the primary culture of your home country because many of us are a blend of many, many European ethnic groups. That said, I generally align as being Canadian Gaelic, given most of my blood hails from the British isles, patrilineally my heritage comes from the Scottish highlands, and I was raised into a Highland Gaelic culture growing up.
@ShinobiNoMonoResearch
@ShinobiNoMonoResearch 6 ай бұрын
No you got it wrong, I don't want to find who is Irish and who is scottish, I want to find who is Ireland like the land itself
@ericward5557
@ericward5557 Жыл бұрын
On my Mom's side, whatever is not English and Welsh is "Irish." The Irish side is actually both "native Irish" and a Scottish woman named Mary Drummond who immigrated to Ireland for some reason. (It's unknown why in my family these days) She married a Murphy and had a lot of kids. I joke Mr. Murphy probably got bored of all the local ladies and tried out the cute foreign girl. Who knows? Haha. My grandmother some years before she died told me this Scottish woman was actually in Scotland's Catholic minority which was mostly in the Highlands before she went west. A fascinating exception to the rule of Scots Irish in Ulster and in Appalachia being Protestant. (I suspect mostly Presbyterian, Baptist, or possibly Methodist) Due to her migration from Scotland to Ireland and marrying a native man, I do consider myself "Scots-Irish" and "Irish." I do avoid the word "Irish Catholic" though which is sometimes used to distinguish some Irish from Scots-Irish. I am Protestant (Reformed Anglican to be specific) and in the Anglophone world at least describing oneself as "catholic" has too often been confused of having some kind of association with the Roman Catholic Church of which I do not claim. "Irish American" "Scots Irish" or even "Irish" in the heritage form is cool though.
@CharlesBryan1
@CharlesBryan1 Жыл бұрын
My last name is Bryan. After my own genealogical research and conferring with other scholarly people, I am part Irish from my paternal side. There is no question that I am related to descendants of Brian Boru. By name and composure.
@okcdog5439
@okcdog5439 Жыл бұрын
This was an interesting video. I found a copy of my great-grandparent's certificate of marriage, showing both of them came from Limerick so I knew I was part Irish. My DNA results also showed my Irish ancestry; although, DNA shows my ancestors were from the Connacht area (I'm trying to reconcile those things). However, I was confused when my DNA results also showed a fair amount of English ancestry. I know part of that came from my father, but this video helped me confirm that my Irish ancestors likely also contributed some of that English DNA.
@CarolynDavasligil
@CarolynDavasligil 9 ай бұрын
You should also know that when the English ruled Ireland their women were raped by English man to subjugate them.
@carlamarlene2927
@carlamarlene2927 7 ай бұрын
My mother in law's parents are both first generation born in America. Her father's father worked the railway from the east coast going to California. He'd work enough to send his luggage forward, work towards it, then repeat. At grand junction Colorado he "saw the redhead next door and I sent for me bags" So we say his blood is Irish. The fuse is short and there's no therapy for it. Our daughter is him through and through.
@Iceageonmars
@Iceageonmars 3 ай бұрын
Living in England, nobody wanted to acknowledge their Irish ancestry until fairly recently. For the past perhaps ten years, all these Irish descendants have come out of the woodwork and now proudly claim Irish heritage. I find it astonishing having spent the best part of my adult life being subjected to horrible racism. One of the first times I noted a changed attitude was when Margaret Thatcher at a dinner party astonished her fellow guests when she announced that her great grandmother was Irish, from Co. Kerry.
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