Fanatec CSL DD 8 Month Review - Trouble in Paradise

[@ulrichkleinhans5923]

Get SIMAGIC you will NOT be disappointed. Especially the P1000 pedals with the rumble motor. Total game changer

[@ulrichkleinhans5923]

Simagic Alpha mini bang for buck. You'll LOVE IT I PROMISE YOU!!!!

[@Road2Racer]

This wheel does look really good!

[@blacknovella]

i went from a fanatec dd1 to alpha u.. and its freakin amazing.. the mini and regular alpha are fantastic. totally worth it and the best part.. no more fanatec tax.. use whatever wheel you want, and you dont have to pay 200 bucks for a fanatec podium huib..

[@labpong7562]

This.....simucube or bust!

[@justinchin0]

And you can get a sigma cortex and use it on ps!

[@chillachriz27]

I start with Fanatec, sold it after 10 Months. Now i have Asetek and i'm just happy :)

[@Road2Racer]

Which Asetek did you go for???

[@chillachriz27]

@@Road2Racer With the Forte. You dont need more Power. Just sell the Forte Wheel because i have the ASCHER-RACING MCLAREN ARTURA ULTIMATE now :)

[@MrPichichi78]

Hilarious vid! 😂. Obvious answer if you have the cash is to go one of Simucube, Asetek or SimMagic.

[@Road2Racer]

.... I don't have the cash 😭

[@snippidippi]

@MrPichichi78 most for money would be asetek la prima bundle. Think it's like 1100$ for everything and asetek is premium brand within simracing

[@SIMRIG412]

⁠@@snippidippiAsetek isn’t premium! lol there shit always brakes check eBay mostly broken Asetek! Also asetek has the worse pedals ever!

[@THESHADOW97139]

@@Road2Racer French here, came across this video by chance 😅 . Your base is 5 nm and you have no money... personally, I would have gone with a base having almost double the torque, in order to feel a fairly significant change, without burning the bank card. Moza r9 ?? or something similar, having a good price ratio in your location... this is just an idea... 😉

[@MrPichichi78]

@@snippidippi I agree that Asetek is the best bang for your buck. Originally I wanted the Simucube but couldn't justify it against the Forte bundle I went for. No regrets as it's an awesome wheelbase. The QR system is also really good an interchangeable with 3rd party wheels.

[@FireDave59]

I started my DD journey with MOZA and I’m never looking back. Excellent quality and the price is right. Plus, their ecosystem has been growing exponentially with so many great rims, pedals, shifters, etc!

[@Road2Racer]

Yes! It just seems like the easy life!

[@TheInsaiyan]

They updated the FFB algorithm too.

[@henlienr22]

i felt that the csl dd pro wasnt what i hoped for, went from g29 to dd pro and was left a bit disappointed after a month or two. upgraded to Clubsport dd+ and omg what a diffrence! all you need is more than 8nm and the world feels so much better! with my old dd pro i was stuck at 100% force and it felt weak, with my dd+ im sitting at 35% and life couldnt be better, the detail is so much more detailed and if i ever need more power i can bust turn it up until my arms starta flailing around out of control while trykng to hold on for dear life

[@RacingTherapy]

What games do you play and what platform? I have the GT DD PRO 8Nm and I feel I want more power too..

[@iwishblog]

Asetek for life👍 Very happy with my Invicta kit❤

[@Two49]

Bought the GT DD Pro 5 NM bundle years ago and immediately ran into the same issues you had with the cheap plastic QR it came with. Swapping to the all metal one fixed my issues and I've been happy ever since. Edit: this was before the QR2 was even announced, I should say

[@Mrimsoretro]

I don't have experience with any other racing wheels, but the Logitech Pro wheelbase and pedals were an amazing upgrade. Every review I have read or watch says great things.

[@gasracing5000]

Corsair is buying them. Let's hope the quality control gets a bit better.

[@lucaslopes4257]

Hello, sir. Greetings from Brazil. I have just watched your videos. I have had a csl dd for 3 months now, i bought it on a trip to the usa. Mine is just like yours with boost kit and v2 pedals. I just have to say that i love this wheel. The fine details, the ffb (i have the boost kit - i bought the 8nm ready to race bundle), the build quality, it never overheats (actually, i have never seen it hot). The sound from the qr1 lite really happens but does not bother me. I only race on iRacing. I have never had any issues with my fanatec and i hope it keeps like this 🙏 I have tried other direct drive base, the moza r9. It is a good Wheel but it has a different feeling on the ffb. I would much prefer the fanatec. Well, i am pretty happy with it and, if i ever have to change wheels, i will stick with fanatec. Their new club Sport DD along with the new qr2 looks really good. That is my experience and i hope you make the right choice and spend your money wisely. It is not easy to earn. Cheers

[@Road2Racer]

Hey! I now have the QR2 and the boost kit on the way. Fixed all my issues. Thanks for the comment!

[@tarmacsoftee_sim_racing]

Cacking video Casey, had me laughing all the way through. Can't offer any advice regarding the wheel but the video was fantastic!🤣👍

[@Road2Racer]

Glad you had a laugh 😃

[@BobaFett-vl9jr]

Good that you are playing now on the Thrustmaster T598

[@Shaded]

I got myself a 8NM boost kit from Ali for the fraction of the cost and it works flawlessly and does make a huuuge difference! Maybe give it a try? Also for the quick release not sure what your issue is exactly but what I've done to remove some of the play and knocking is to put in a couple layers of Aluminum Tape inside of the groove on top of the shaft. I think I've done 3 or 4 layers, basically until I removed the play entirely, even under hard load. That removed the knocking for me completely. It's a bit harder to change wheels now but I don't have any other wheels anyways, so no issue from my side. Cheers mate! Your original reviews convinced me to buy the damn thing and I don't regret it a single bit. Especially considering it was one of the cheapest options for me by far compared to the competition.

[@Road2Racer]

Actually, have a QR2 on its way!

[@Road2Racer]

I'll look into the boost kit.

[@robertcarr4172]

Yes you can get a good 3rd party boost kit for a fraction of the price. Just got to do your homework and get a decent one

[@jbeeches1]

Asetek great stuff

[@TheAndyBrothers]

Bro your at 8k! I remember when you first hit 1k! Great job man!

[@Road2Racer]

Hey Andy! Going well, big goals!

[@tentaclemotorsports]

That's unfortunate you get such a noticeable knock. I also experience the clacking from the qr1. Just like you I have absolutely loved the hell out of this thing since I've gotten it. I wish you well on your next wheel journey!

[@andygunner8531]

Try some electrical tape cut 2 pieces and put it over grooves before wheel goes on hopefully it will stop the knocking.

[@tentaclemotorsports]

@@andygunner8531 I imagine it's pretty irrelevant but, did you put them on the wheel or base side?

[@andygunner8531]

Base side mate over the metal groove . It's not the perfect solution because u will need to change the tape evey now and again, but it did stop my knocking . Let me know how u get on if u try.

[@tentaclemotorsports]

@@andygunner8531 right on man, will do. Good lookin out

[@bentremblay7405]

Coming from a csl dd with boost kit ready to race bundle with the bmw wheel, after almost 11 months of use the wheel disconnected very often from the base and did'nt like the csl pedal with the added clutch . Gone for the simagic alpha mini with gts and gt neo wheel with p1000 pedal and it's game changing, not only you understand better what is going on the road but the braking is way more accurate. Best choice I made!

[@GregoryShtevensh]

Casey... One week into my Simagic Alpha and GT neo with extra QR for my round wheel, and I honestly think you should go this direction! You won't be disappointed and simagics nrg qr is rock solid with zero play at all

[@GregoryShtevensh]

I still think QR2 is a waste really. Even on Aliexpress they're not particularly cheap, when you compare them to an NRG style. And the fact you still cant just bolt them to a wheel and you'll need an emulator etc. Just go Simagic dude

[@KnowerofThings]

You have a cost-free risk-free solution. remove the QR lite then disassemble it by unscrewing the small screws, which will allow you to detach the larger collar. After that, you can use a hose clamp to firmly attach the inner collar to the shaft. This method provides a much sturdier connection compared to the plastic ring.

[@andygunner8531]

Cut 2 pieces of electrical tape over the grovves on the base before putting wheel on hopefully it will stop the knocking, it did on mine.

[@Road2Racer]

People recommending this like crazy!

[@beardalyankovic]

Hahaha brilliant video, im not sure what eco system i should go for. Moza and simagic are battling it out atm for ne

[@maxakamvp]

I fixed the knocking by placing tape in the ¿"dent"? in the base side of the QR, a couple of tape cuts on top of each other was enough for me. I also would suggest buying the power source for 8nm in any chinese app, I bought mine for 40€ and works great, I also bought a full QR2 (not the lite one), for 100€ in the same app. It hasn't arrived yet but is a piece of metal, I doubt it will give any problems. It works great and I'm having a blast but still... I wish I bought something else, like a moza r9 o r12, I feel moza's ecosystem is better and their quick release is miles ahead also You don't have to pay extra for it!!

[@Road2Racer]

This is so true! I got lucky and didn't have to pay for it all. I am excited to feel the 8 though!

[@BlueTeamRacing-Joshua]

Nice video I think many of us feel similar. I also am pretty annoyed with all the expensive quick release things way over priced. I think the knock you are talking about can be fixed/helped by putting a piece of electrical or even scotch tape over that groove in the shaft may have to do a couple layers with scotch tape- it really snugs the quick release up that is how I have been using mine for 2 years now on the CSL DD 8nm the knock completely went away and I have not had it happen unless I take the tape off. The scotch tape sticks the best....the first time I heard/felt this Knock I thought the wheel was going to brake for sure it is a very concerning noise its the wheel slipping on the shaft and the little metal bearings slam into the metal shaft making a very loud clank that feels horrible and like something is going to break apart like the pins connecting everything. Honestly to need to put tape on your brand new 500$ wheel base so it fits snug is a kick in the ****s in a way lol Im still using the QR lite (plastic twist on) honestly I have not had a problem other then needing to put tape on the shaft to make it fit tighter but recently my CSL BMW wheel rim cracked around the screw on the right side plastic housing under the paddle shifter so its just taped together a bit worried I really cant afford even a new wheel rim....I did reach out to fanatec no response at all and not even a record of me reaching out or confirmation email or anything. Probably around 1500 hours on mine though with the cheap csl bmw rim only so Idk personally for the price I expect at least 4-5 years of use not only 2 I think the csl rims are pretty bad honestly.....and the plastic seems to get brittle or something after a couple years I never had this with my cheap thrustmaster tmx and t-300. Ive always been slightly disappointed with the csl dd 8nm there was 1 thing my thrustmaster t-300 did much better and that was hold a solid force through a turn instead of being able to push past the grip really easy and overturn the front wheels I find this spot really hard to notice on the csl dd or easy to go past like you have to saw the wheel back and forth to find it.

[@Road2Racer]

Great reasonable comment! People keep telling me to do the tape, and you're right.... what in the trailer park is going on with that. I'm all good for a fix, but it does suck that you would even need to resort to this.

[@Canzhaz]

Hello! If you're looking to upgrade and not spend a fortune, go with Moza R12 and any wheel you might want! Excellent ecosystem and the driving experience is top notch!

[@driftingmajix]

Back in 2021 I went Fanatec because the market was waaaayyyy smaller back then and there weren't as many options especially in the price range of the CSL DD. Nowadays the only reason to go with Fanatec might only be console compatibility. Even with that there are some options now for example the Logitech G Pro.

[@jonycreed]

Really comparing a 1k wheel with a 300 wheel? One thing most people have it wrong is that there are now options in the same price range. No there aren't. You can't get a DD 8nm wheel for 300 anywhere but from Fanatec. Especially with such a big ecosystem and Upgradebility. You don't even have to go for 8nm you can go even cheaper with 5nm and LATER (very important) upgrade for 8. Moza R5 is 5.5 fixed, you want more later? You have to put it down and get a complete new wheel. So no, there still isn't enough competition for the CSL DD Yall forget what the CSL DD is for. It's for people getting into Sim racing with a straight path to direct drive for cheap. Not everyone has thousands layin around for a first set sim cube. And remember CSL DD is now AS CHEAP as other belt driven sets.

[@driftingmajix]

@@jonycreed You are undershooting that 300 price by a good margin. Maybe during black frinday it was like that but I was taking the price I bought it back in 2021 for. I did not exactly choose the cheapest option, because I wanted it to be able to swap the rim to a bigger one later which meant that I had to go with the Universal Hub (I wanted to keep buttons too) plus get a rim with it. I'm not taking the three pedal set and the shifter into acocount as this is also separate with Logitech. Going from todays prices I can buy a QR2 8 Nm base for 450 no extras and I'd have to add another 430 up to that becasue I would not want that cheap thing they added later on with it's poor quality. Oh and don't forget the table clamp if you don't have a rig already. Yes it's still cheaper than the Logitech G Pro but only 300 bucks not 700 like you said. Initially I wanns't even comparing them price wise, I just don't really know any other alternatives there might be for Playstation.

[@jonycreed]

@@driftingmajix I'm using current prices, you get full set for 500. With option to upgrade to 8nm instead of completely getting rid of the base. We are talking about current competition. So it's only fair you talk current Prices. About the table clamp: it's there as an option for convinence. If you don't have a rig you shouldn't even go for direct drive in the first place. That's what belt drive are for. To me its simple, for 500 currently still no better deal for a entry DD full set.

[@driftingmajix]

@@jonycreed No one is denying that Fanatech has one of the cheapest options for the DD market (although here in Germany I do not get it for 500 even as a 5 Nm version, maybe the US Dollar is weak right now or something). The only reason I mentioned the Logitech DD wheel was because it's the only option I know of for console gamers. I have a CSL DD 8 Nm with a table clamp. I don't have a rig yet but even back then I knew that I would go for a rig and I think this year I'll do it finally. And to this day my CSL DD hols up with no real problems. However that would not be the case if I would have gone for the cheapest possible option (QR1 lite wasn't a thing back then fortunately). If you go for the plastic quick release you set yourself up to buy twice.

[@MarleyDiesel]

mate - i recently jumped off the DD Pro and GT wheel across to the Simagic Alpha Mini 10nm with GT Neo wheel - OH MY LIFE - the thing is crazzzyy good!!! for pc im raving about this thing right now and im still using my v3 pedals - direct to pc they seem to be 'better' ( could just be me )........ but ive gone LFM and PC fully now...

[@Road2Racer]

That Neo Wheel 🤤

[@addos999]

My CSL DD lasted 7 months :) 5nm Dec 23. 8nm upgrade kit Mar 24. Got the shits with the shaft slipping out more regularly than it should, the flex in the wheel (Mclaren one) and the general low-ish build quality. Just ordered an Alpha Mini and GT Neo, looking forward to the next chapter!

[@Road2Racer]

Dude, I've heard nothing bad about that combo! 🫡

[@addos999]

@@Road2Racer Agreed! Based on the reviews I've seen people saying Asetek and Simagic best mid range bang for buck. Moza R12 and their GT wheel was about the same price but reviews saying the 10nm alpha mini still has better / stronger FFB and Moza can occasionally have Fanatec-like build quality. 1 more week and I'll be able to see for myself if Simagic hype is justified :) You decided which way you're going to go yet?

[@addos999]

@@Road2Racer ...and can now confirm the Alpha Mini / GT neo combo is leaps and bounds ahead of the csl dd! like many have reported, feels stronger than 10nm, but biggest thing - no flex, no creaks, no weird sounds and no having to constantly re-tighten the shaft ring. highly recommend if you havent decided yet!

[@jktravis]

So I have the GT DD pro which is basically a CSL DD with PS compatibility. I have the boost kit. I upgraded to QR1 and then QR2. I gotta say that all creaking has gone away with that upgrade and I’m pretty happen with it. I think the main reason I want Fanatec to survive is console compatibility. It’s a little less clear, but there’s not really a maker that sits nicely between the consoles and PC

[@Road2Racer]

This! I wonder how long till other companies get console compatibility, and will it come with weird purchases to make it happen?

[@moncimoov]

@@Road2Racerfanatec have long history with sony, just like thrustmasters and logitech.. its something like that not that easy anymore to get console like sony working together without paying extra $$$ than old partners

[@stephenmills1023]

Hi casey I had a fanatec cls elite from the start the upgrade to a cl dd 8nm I have two rims f1 v2 with magnetic paddles than then a bmw v2 rim plus fanatec v3 pedals but with the news of fanatce when the wheel dies it will be sim magic or mozar or just maybe someone buys fanatec 😉 I have to say it been a privileged to be a member fof road2racer and driving with a great community keep up the good work ak GO FUND ME 😂

[@thenetnet1343]

Simucube pro.. never look back

[@Road2Racer]

I hear good things...

[@thenetnet1343]

@Road2Racer it's expensive, but it was because of the issues with fanatec that I ultimately decided to skip them all together. I'm so glad I did because all of the recent crap about them came after I bought into simucube. Yes, I don't have console compatibility, but given I also love cars and track car is expensive...

[@johanhesselholt3253]

Asetek by far, great bases and by far the best pedals i've ever tried.

[@Road2Racer]

Nice!

[@-KelevraGaming-]

you should do a good full upgrade to a 20Nm+😁. your creativity always keeps me laughing and waiting to see what you will do next.

[@wwjnz9263]

I went with the QR2, and its a night and day difference over the QR1 and QR1 Lite. I used the QR1 Lite and regular QR1, and the QR2 Lite is better than the even the best fitting metal QR1. If anyone goes to the QR2, they won't be dissappointed. BUT I completely understand not wanting to pay $60 or $100 more on every steering wheel. Look into knockoff QR2s like Simube. They are priced closer to what Fanate ought to be charging IMO, and my next steering wheel will be sporting a Simube QR2 if Fanatec doesn't pull their heads out.

[@Road2Racer]

I got the QR2! It really is incredible.

[@shamppoopapi]

Would you still recommend this setup today? Been looking into buying a sim wheel for pc as of recent and the CSL DD Ready2Race QR2 bundle is going for $400, doesn't seem like a bad price but what do you think?

[@Road2Racer]

For $400, i think that would be a killer deal!

[@hansthepickle8138]

Asetek all the way

[@mcalbols]

love my dd 8nm added tape under qr and is fine i got mine on 1st wave

[@Road2Racer]

Nice! Just taped mine and seems to help the creaking.

[@bobboom8366]

I got the qr2 and formula v2.5 after using the McLaren rim with the qr1 lite and it fixed all of my flex, creaking and notchyness even with the boost kit.

[@Road2Racer]

Even the creaking!? 🤯 I thought that was the wheel more than anything

[@bobboom8366]

I haven’t used the wheel that you have but it fixed it for mine. Yours might be worse because it is a full round wheel tho

[@bobboom8366]

I also got the rs clubsport round wheel and it has absolutely no flex

[@Road2Racer]

@@bobboom8366 nice!

[@Glutzie]

Great vid I have the Simagic alpha mini and have no complaints except I blew my elbows out a few months back. Was I driving too much? Starting to dip back in the sim waters

[@Road2Racer]

Glutzie needs a montage.

[@phippsa3]

I used the plastic quick release on my 8nm base for quite a while and it worked fine, but going to the metal QR1 was definitely a big improvement. You can pick those up on Ebay now pretty cheap. I'm now using a Simagic GT Neo wheel on my Fanatec DD Pro and it works great. Used a tiny emulator from SRM and still using the metal QR1. Will probably upgrade to a Simagic Alpha at some point but I'm not in any hurry.

[@Road2Racer]

I've looked into this after the first time you told me. Definitely an option.

[@phippsa3]

​@Road2Racer if you need any info let me know👍

[@duncani3095]

Got this bundle myself. 5NM, upgraded with pedal tuning kit, QR1+podium hub and Cube controls F-Core wheel for the extra buttons and encoders. Been having a blast in LMU with my friends. Personaly, next update will be 8NM booster. And then i will stop spending money on hardware, promise... 😂

[@Road2Racer]

The spending is never done. 😈 For real, I'm glad you're loving it! Those flat spots on LMU got your whole rig shaking??? 🤣

[@duncani3095]

@@Road2Racer it's takes getting used to, the braking. But with some practice you will manage to avoid locking up and do multiple stints on a set of tyres. Great videos dude, respect. The comedy is excellent, and the delivery is top notch.

[@Road2Racer]

@@duncani3095 appreciate the kind words 🙏

[@RelaxSimmer]

So what you gonna get now? I personally went with full Sim magic setup

[@Road2Racer]

If I had the finances, I think I would go to all one ecosystem. Right now, I'm in 4 different ones. 😅

[@RelaxSimmer]

@@Road2Racer I know how that feels, I ended up just ripping the bandaid and got like 3k€ with of simMagic stuff

[@sheepmasterrace]

unlike the fanatec, this video is extremely well made!

[@digglerdiggler]

CSL DD with qr1 and aliexpress 8nm kit (sub 30 eur/usd) still going very strong. Even just bought the mc laren gt3 wheel before whatever happens at fanatec makes it unavailable. Definitevely staying with the wheel as long as it lasts.

[@Road2Racer]

Love it!

[@7MBoosted]

The knocking I had with my CSL DD went away with the qr2 upgrade. I am pretty sure it has to do with uneven clamping force on the collar holding the motor shaft in, you could try tightening the collar, or there are replacement collars on alliexpress I have seen that are supposed to even out the clamping force on the shaft so it is like a .5 upgrade if you do not want to go full qr2.

[@Road2Racer]

Judging from the comments, it seems this is the fix. Thanks!

[@woodcote7617]

knocking!... that does not sound good. I used to to get a single knock on the 8nm with McLaren GT wheel once or so in 10 races say..... until I changed the plastic QR for the metal one... and now no knock. Have you tried different FFB settings? I only race in ACC and the wheel stays on the base and is secured using the supplied locking bolt that came with the metal QR.... cheapest solution maybe in short term? At least if you do swap it out you can sell it all with the metal QR But after 3 years I am changing and only because I want too as since the metal QR my CSL DD working perfectly fine. Probably going to SIM magic only because I love the look of the GT wheel otherwise I would go to Asetek... I know I can mix and match base and wheel but I want a single eco system just struggling to justify the expense when I have a perfectly good working base and wheel

[@cltcoggy]

I went moza and have no regrets

[@Road2Racer]

What did you pick up?

[@CordellWoodworks]

I went Simagic and couldn't be happier. IMO not much pricier than Fanatec, better service, better quality than Moza (again my opinion), the GT Neo wheel is one of the nicest wheels you'll find under $500-600, and the ecosystem is growing so nicely.

[@luismendez841]

I had a fanatec dd1 and it started missing shifts with all my fanatec wheels. I switched to Asetek La Prima and I loooove that thing. Also u can get an Asetek button box and the wheel rims are all 100 bucks. Everything they sell is upgradable and top notch

[@Road2Racer]

Ngl. Their products look very good!

[@matthewbrennan6466]

Went with the La Prima as well and love it, FWIW.

[@luismendez841]

@@Road2Racer and the La prima can be upgraded from 12 to 19 NM

[@luismendez841]

But 12 is waaaaaay more than enough

[@TravisRhoads]

I have a CSL DD 5NM, that while I don't race for hours a day, I do a couple races each night and have for almost 8 months and have had no issues. I did change to the Mclaren GT wheel. But I won't lie, the biggest drawback is the pedals, the CSL pedals are not my favorite, and that is what has me looking to make a change at some point. I am not a streamer, or even post any of my racing to YT...I just love racing.

[@Road2Racer]

Definitely, my first upgrade was pedals! Those CSL pedals are not super great. But I will say they get the job done for a newbie.

[@supercededman]

Selling point for some (many?) simracers was that the Fanatec CSL/DD Pro wheels were PC and PS compatible. I have both, and have used them both. I 'upgraded' my DD Pro to a Logitech G Pro which also allows cross-platform use. To my knowledge these two wheels are the only two that can do this. I also have a VR2 headset, which can be used on PC. When are manufacturers gonna wake up?

[@Road2Racer]

Right!

[@RoyJohnPatrickTaylor]

Awesome video dude 😂

[@RotNside]

Logitech pro ftw !!! Have not once in the last year thought to myself “I need to upgrade” But I am sitting here waiting for a pro shifter Since I am extremely limited on usb ports to use Since I can connect everything to the base instead

[@Road2Racer]

I haven't even looked at this base. You can swap wheels on it?!

[@RotNside]

@@Road2Racer as of right now that’s a no for now they are supposed to to announce updates for the pro wheel in October tho so maybe then?

[@Rich-pj9wv]

An 8nh wheelbase, steering wheel and csl pedals bundle for 380 pounds/500 dollars is pretty good I think. Dont think Moza can compete with that. Problem is they are now insolvent so a bit risky.

[@ktos_PL726]

I bought the csl dd with the cr2 without the bundle. When i went to cart to check if i have everything i got -150euro discount so it costs like a bundle

[@Road2Racer]

Is that always available??

[@ktos_PL726]

@@Road2Racer i dont know. but there is a ready to race bundle now.

[@abulzz]

went for the Fanatec GT DD pro back in 2021, just in case someday I would buy a PS5 for Gran Turismo. Bought third party mod for the CSL pedals, since the default was unbearable. But the H-shifter was the one that does it for me. The miss-shifting keep happening even though I tried many solution from the forums. As I like to drive road cars with manual gears, it was a big let down. Right now I'm saving money to move to simagic ecosystem. the GT Neo feels fantastic, and I can't wait to get the alpha ultimate 🙈

[@Road2Racer]

I'm eyeballing Simagic hard! I have the Moza H Pattern and like it quite a lot. It's got a satisfying clunk. 🤣

[@laze7963]

I think imo moza should be it. I have a moza r9 with a formula wheel and it works pretty well for me. I heard about simagic and its awesome too but is a lil bit more expensive but the quality is a little bit more premium. So if ur not concerned about the money u can go with simagic i think for pc its a very good brand.

[@Road2Racer]

A couple buddies are really enjoying simagic!

[@Rangerracing1085]

My csl dd 8nm is doing well its it's only been a month so fingers crossed 🤞 with my QR1 not breaking

[@Road2Racer]

Nice! It appears so far, tape on the shaft fixed my issue.

[@wisniatd]

​@@Road2Racer You can try add a little bit lube on the shaft too. I chose Vaseline as it is compatible with plastic qr1 lite and metal shaft. That makes a little small moves feel quieter and smoother to the point I didn't bother. Also used tape mode on the groove. But I switch between wheels sometimes so need to retape a few wheel changes again. But before lubing wipe the shaft and inside of the qr1 from the little plastic dust that probably get collected due to friction between them.

[@cor_racing]

Well had same issue with Simagic... Got Mini that sings, GTS wheel that is not as advertised and after 1h stitching started to show wear, GT Neo that loses connecting (otherwise great wheel).... All of that in hopes for one system and one brand to learn that only 3 games actually properly working are iR, AC and ACC rest is mixed bag at best and many do not even recognise the base and wheel at all.... I guess I will be getting T300 RS F this DD nonsense for 1k when they can even put the servos right, T818 do not even have port for bloody TH8a and TLCMs, and intergrate or at lease offer custom profiles for different games (NOT presets for their software but custom game files like Moza did for FH5!!!) xD Moza was not my favorite but it turns out it was most stable and consistent LOL

[@olivante9513]

Just buy a Simucube

[@badrockjones]

The worst thing is, the metal QR1 solves the problems you're having but Fanatec won't sell you one anymore!

[@madhaz3359]

why won't they? I'm looking at one right now on their website. Fans of simracing you say?? Wow

[@badrockjones]

@@madhaz3359 They stopped selling to try and force upgrades to the QR2 instead. I bought a couple secondhand instead.

[@DavorinFischer-jx1sc]

Hey the wheel costet me 466 euros and it came perfectly i would say to you that you should thighten the shaft i would still be in the fanatec eco system

[@Road2Racer]

I get you! Mine was perfect too, until about 3 months ago. Collar and shaft have been seated and tightened. But I am looking to go higher than 8nm in my future.

[@TheGabberworld]

its a this plastic quick release issue. metal one not have this problem, also fanatec new stuff come with qr2 instead, what is even better than qr1, moza is-int cheap either if look all they prices,also usually people look that first. the price. later they find out that expensive ones could be better

[@ross1680]

I have the same thoughts except that I've unlocked 8nm in my base for free. So I've decided to feed Fanatec the last time and purchase a metal QR2, and then to have uncompromising simecube upgrade in future. There isn't really many reasons to change one base model for another base model of other brand. You'll get fooled anyway.

[@Road2Racer]

Right. Someone hooked me up with a QR2. It's way way better now. Have the boost kit coming in from Ali Express. How did you do it for free??

[@ross1680]

@@Road2Racer Sent you instructions on your e-mail

[@ross1680]

@@Road2Racer just received my QR2. It's day and night, like another wheel. They should've done this at the release of 8nm version at the first place. Only now I can tell it is as good as all YT bloggers were saying in their reviews. I've paid a double-price for and still pretty sure

[@Road2Racer]

@ross1680 got my 8nm last night and I have the QR2 now. It's unbelievable.... like a whole new setup.

[@serekkirikiri344]

You can still buy csl dd for 200 euros if you buy it with pedals and steeing wheel. Its just not in the bundles anymore.

[@Road2Racer]

Thanks for the info!

[@philliptheone]

Logitech !

[@Road2Racer]

We got people in here speaking up for the logitech DD! Let's go!

[@mattgrover3096]

Just bought into fanatec. The shit show with my processing and getting it shipped already has me questioning it all. Order 27 days ago. Still don't have. In USA, everything was in stock. Can't cancel. Nobody to call. Emails are useless. If i thought it would be relatively quick or easy I'd return them once i get them........

[@Road2Racer]

Oh god.... i hope it straightens up soon for you.

[@shattereddnb3268]

Fanatec has become such a joke of a company. It seems they are doing evrything they can to piss on their customers, and it would be a big surprice if they didn´t go bankrupt in the near future. Investing in any of Fanatecs products at this point would be a very bad idea!

[@DethEcrof]

Dude! Grab a logitech and crank that bad boy to 11Nm! It moonlights as a home gym! 👍🤪

[@Road2Racer]

The Logitech DD?? Does look pretty sweet.

[@DethEcrof]

Hasn't let me down yet!

[@Django45]

I don't like how limited the ecosystem is to this day. Generally just one wheel and pedals, the base is massive. They need to work on expanding the lineup for it to be truly viable

[@SIMRIG412]

Fuck fanajunk!!! Go moza or simagic! Owned 👇🏻 Logitech Thrustmaster Fanajunk Simucube Moza Simagic By far simagic or moza is the best value

[@Road2Racer]

This is colorful. 🤔 What issues did you have with simucube?

[@THESHADOW97139]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JaymondoGB]

Wish I could jump to Simagic, but its all out of reach, stuck with Fanatec, its not bad, just the company is crashing, no new drivers, crappy warranty. etc

[@Road2Racer]

Right! Not bad by any means but grass is definitely looking greener other places.

[@crazykosmikbunny]

There's no competition in the price range. Fanatec is the only one making affordable DD wheels. I paid ~600€ for the base, wheel and csl elite pedals. No one else can offer that for such price. Even logitech is more than 1500€ while simagic cheapest wheelbase alone is almost 600. I looked into moza and at least back then they were adding taxes on top of the price so base + wheel alone was more than that and pedals were super expensive. And i found as many negative feedback regarding moza as i found about fanatec. There's simply no competition and fanatec knew that so they became lazy. Now it starts biting them in the ass. All those companies want to compete and they putting a lot of money and effort into marketing by paying youtubers to promote their products. You just choose whichever you can afford and like the most. All of them could break.

[@Road2Racer]

Right! Like I said, I'm aware my situation is not super common. Hardware breaks, it's just the truth. However, for me, it's about logically looking at what company makes the most since for future purchases. You have to admit, quick releases and boost kits is not an appealing way to enter Sim Racing.

[@jbeeches1]

Asetek 12nm

[@Road2Racer]

This is a really good looking product.

[@redgumracing]

Moza dude, just go with Moza

[@snippidippi]

I'm buying csl base, csl pedals for nothing on the used market! If you want a really good dd kit for nothing buy fanate now

[@Road2Racer]

This is a great point! I bet used is the way to go. People are getting out when, in reality, the wheels are still good.

[@snippidippi]

@Road2Racer yes, fanatec actually has great quality, that's not the problem. Problem is that they created to big ecosystem that raised the cost of manufacturing and then they went wild with the sponsorship. RnD also got plenty money. They was to happy at the office and forgott to be adults

[@nickreestearsofaclown4661]

I have no choice but to use fanatec if I want to just play gt7 on ps5 with a wheel and base.

[@Road2Racer]

Yeah, compatibility is a real problem out there

[@supercededman]

Logitech G Pro is compatible for both. I have both.

[@bbcz]

just buy the normal qr1 it fixed all problems for me

[@Road2Racer]

How does that work for future wheel purchases? Will I need to buy QR1 attachments for them??

[@labpong7562]

Yup those plastic QR's are garbage and should never of been used. Get a QR1 or 2 and your good to go.

[@bbcz]

@@Road2Racer so as i know ,you can just unmonted the qr1 from wheel to another , but that takes some time ,if you want to switch fast mutible qr1 but i thinkt that you don t need that

[@Road2Racer]

@bbcz bro, someone sent me a Wheel side QR2! I'm just going to order the base!

[@bbcz]

@@Road2Racer your youtube connections always help you out :) hope you have a lot of fun with it ,locking on your youtube progress its very cool how you developed . Saw you first video had like 100 subs ;). I trying my best englisch her

[@Strangelove-41]

this is tragic

[@Road2Racer]

TO BEEEE OR NOT TO BEEEE!!!

[@RetroGenetic]

Just stay away from Moza :P

[@Road2Racer]

Weird! Mostly heard good things.

[@driftingmajix]

@@Road2Racer I've heard mixed things about Moza, recently more people turning their back towards them.

[@beardalyankovic]

Would you elaborate? As I'm looking to go down the moza or simagic route.

[@SIMRIG412]

@@beardalyankovicmoza and simagic are fine. I own both a r12 and an alpha. Dude has no clue what he is talking about

[@Django45]

I got R12 for 6 months now and have yet to find a massive drawback. The oscillation when you let go is pretty bad and the hands off protection can get activated when trying to vigorously heat the tyres. But no game breakers for me yet.

[@Torqxracing]

Fanatec doesn't have a QR 1,2,3,4,5,6,7. terrible video.

[@Road2Racer]

Bro... that was a joke...

[@madhaz3359]

Another simracing youtuber jumping on the 'bashing fanatec bandwagon.' Hmm really not helping the company that pushed our great hobby forwards the most!

[@jeff_tsc]

Seems like he’s just telling the truth to me 🤷‍♂️ Fanatec fell asleep at the wheel

[@Road2Racer]

Bro, you didn't watch the whole video. The wheels are great! I'm looking at this from a consumer standpoint. I even said I could care less about politics. Matters none to me.

[@sveininge]

I had mine for a year, using it on 8 nm . the qr 1 light thing was really bad also the steering wheel you have is not great when it comes to flexing. i uppgraded wheel to a much better one and qr1 . and there was some knocking sounds so it was so much better. i Have now qr2 lite on both my wheels and that is super great no flex or knocking with the qr2 lite. I dont think i had bougth fanatec now but maybye simagic . But changing out 2 wheels,base,pedals,gear and handbreake is expensive :/.

[@madhaz3359]

@@Road2Racer I like this guy and his some of his videos , but there is a trend here and it isn't helping Fanatec get back on track in any way shape or form .

[@Road2Racer]

@madhaz3359 This "trend" is truth from an actual Fanatec user. I couldn't have been any more honest about my experience. Unfortunately, it's not our job to get them back on their feet!

[@gasracing5000]

Drummers do it with a **ick in each hand... 🫨