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In an effort to thwart Grindelwald's plans of raising pure-blood wizards to rule over all non-magical beings, Albus Dumbledore enlists his former student Newt Scamander, who agrees to help, though he's unaware of the dangers that lie ahead. Lines are drawn as love and loyalty are tested, even among the truest friends and family, in an increasingly divided wizarding world.
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[@Maxime_G]

he was definitely more charismatic than Voldemort, no one can match him at this level. he was the best villain in this universe

[@kingnothing5678]

Recasting Johnny Depp was a mistake

[@th3m1st0cl3s]

grinelwald was a threat through manipulation Voldemort was a threat through intimidation

[@ories]

@@th3m1st0cl3s nyeheheheheh

[@MrMgkman13]

@@kingnothing5678 I feel like Mads Mikkelsen was better, but I don’t believe that Johnny should have lost the role that he already had. I liked his performance.

[@CircuitReborn]

​@@th3m1st0cl3suntil he wasn't. Heck,in the books ending he DEFINITELY had nobody afraid of him in the end.

[@kyletracht8276]

The way Jacob just whispers "Another war?" is amazing for a Muggle being shown World War II almost 13 years in advance.

[@Baldwin-iv445]

I can only imagine how the crowd would have reacted if Grindelwald had shown the Holocaust and the eastern front.

[@Endonia-ym3sl]

@Alexander V. Domanski You can actually see people marching towards cattle carts at 3:28. I think that was the most the studio was willing to show.

[@HrLBolle]

@@Endonia-ym3sl a very slight correctional observation if I may. take a closer look at said train-cars, and you'll see those are burnt. and the people seen marching are fleeing for what they have left to hold dear to ones heart

[@HrLBolle]

not to mention TRINITY unleashed

[@Endonia-ym3sl]

@@HrLBolle Ah, my mistake. Thanks x

[@Andre_APM]

It's scenes like these that make me realize the potential this franchise had.

[@CH3353N1NJ45]

They had Jude Law, Mads Mikkelsen, and it was all squandered because reasons.

[@AIejandroide]

I'm so sold on the idea of muggles vs wizards.

[@emberpowertcg7692]

Big shame

[@antibull4869]

It was squandered because the studio would rather side with a lying witch than Depp. *NEVER* let them forget that fact.

[@t.miranda176]

Part of the problem was JK Rowling herself, for believing that she could become a screenwriter just because she was a writer. The way all three films were paced felt more like books. Overly plotted for film, too many characters, too much backstory, too much everything. I'm not saying being a screenwriter is more difficult, it is equally difficult as being a writer, but you can't be an architect just because you're already an engineer. JK Rowling is a talented person, no question about it, but she has to understand her limits.

[@EmpressSectonia]

Jacob must've been horrified at this. He is a veteran of the First World War, and now he is seeing another war that will happen 13-14 years in advance.

[@isaiahmiller3180]

Didn’t know he was a veteran, if they said that in the movies then I must rewatch and pay way more attention

[@amaliabarefoot8931]

This is why we need Johnny Depp back as Grindelwald.

[@heavensalanguit4951]

Well I don't because Grindelwald is gay bruh

[@ThomasRobinson-by2wm]

@@heavensalanguit4951 So???

[@b16gav75]

I agree. Though I think that Mikkelson is far more suitable for the role when considering what kind of person Grindelwald is, Depp left his mark and cannot be cast aside. The fact remains that, if Mikkelson had been cast from the beginning, no-one would have batted an eye. Depp, however, is too charismatic for his own good and made the role his own. That cannot be replaced.

[@ThomasRobinson-by2wm]

@@b16gav75 Depp didn't really leave much of a mark on Grindelwald. He did a good job, but his performance as Grindelwald wasn't anything iconic. How do you know how things would have been if Mikkelsen had been cast as Grindelwald from the beginning? For all you and I know, and based on his performance, Mikkelsen could've played a great Grindelwald from the start of the FB franchise, and helped to make the movies better. Depp was charismatic as Grindelwald, but so was Mikkelsen. And the fact remains that Mikkelsen's performance as Grindelwald was praised by critics, who said he did a better job than Depp. So, guess a replacement did happen.

[@rc59191]

​@@heavensalanguit4951you seriously have a problem with who Grindelwald sleeps with while you have that avatar dude lol?

[@francheskajulien8799]

He’s much smarter than Voldemort, Grindelwald he understands and realizes he needs to win hearts ❤️ and minds 😘

[@nicholasvalentino4378]

Both are playing on the xenophobic tendencies of people, the upper class afraid of losing their status and the poor folks that only have magic to make them feel superior than others. But you bring up a great point. Which one is more powerful? The smart and charismatic leader or the one that has almost unmatched power?

[@patriley547]

What he was saying wasn't untrue .

[@francheskajulien8799]

@@nicholasvalentino4378 Grindelwald the smart and sophisticated bad guy obviously 😘

[@steampunkastronaut7081]

Tom Riddle was even more charismatic than Grindelwald

[@francheskajulien8799]

@@steampunkastronaut7081 no he wasn’t please name one time he was if you can 🤣

[@CougarTheCat258]

The way he says "les non-magiques" almost made me think Johnny Depp is able to speak French with a perfect accent lol

[@MeesdeFilmliefhebber]

If you liked that, just watch his most recent movie where he plays a French monarch!

[@onedae7587]

I mean bro did marry a french woman for like a decade + his daughter speaks french too, probs took up a couple of words since then lol

[@CougarTheCat258]

@@onedae7587 I didn't know, but now that I know I just find it logical

[@aginestet1]

He speaks French very fluently, just with an accent.

[@subutaynoyan5372]

This speech, is probably the most authentic thing that was ever written for this universe. The malevolence hidden behind Grinderlwald's rhetoric is so good. He isn't some charicaturistic villain which Voldemort kinda was. Also, firing Johnny Depp because of baseless accusations and slanders was a cardinal sin! This was his best performance since quite some time and although I fucking adore Mads Mikkelsen, it was also disservice to the Danish god to take this role

[@chasehedges6775]

👍

[@Temujin1991]

"Not another war," Anyone who has ever studied the horror of WW1 can hear the heartbreaking plea in Jacob's voice....

[@DoctorWhoKage]

I'm frankly surprised that almost none of the main characters (Newt and Tina, mainly) had any reaction to the prospect of another world war. You'd think they'd have *something* to say about it or some way to feel about it after defeating that fire monster (or whatever that was). But, nope, it's entirely brushed off in the face of the fact that the protagonists have the blood pact and that they're taking it to Dumbledore so he could destroy it, and then fight Grindelwald. I fucking hate that.

[@samalvey8168]

3:16 After seeing all of that, it's no wonder Grindelwald was able to rally so much support at first. Muggles outnumber wizards at least ten to one and major upheavals in one world affects the other; the First World War was already devastating enough and the prospect of a second, even worse one with even more terrifyingly destructive technology would frighten even the most Muggle-friendly wizard. I see this scene as an allegory for modern day fears over World War III; recall what terrible, terrible acts it took to end the last one and then imagine what it might take to end the next one.......

[@_martian101]

But maybe muggles need the war against wizards because only by that they can unite, the only target for the most powerful weapon of WW2 or ww3 would be outside the domain of their own world

[@elder7785]

“Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds” - Robert Oppenheimer 3:32

[@SotoSlasher57]

“Now we are all sons of bitches.” - Kenneth Bainbridge

[@Monkey_W8]

OH NOOOO THE WORLD TURN INTO A FALLOUT GAME ! (°Д°)

[@solidbeard8324]

Would be interesting if the wizards were involved with Oppenheimer.

[@donnalichvarcik9358]

So glad that Grindelwald spoke the truth about muggles who would torture witches and wizards with out malicious intended to do

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

we have no idea of what that era of the HP verse was really like. maybe wizards were just as brutal to them

[@HamguyBacon]

that was hundreds or thousands of years ago

[@gipsymelody1268]

@@godemperorofmankind3.091 what do you mean? it is litereally stated! the hp with harry potter started at 1991 and ended at 1998... actually it is a pretty clever thing cause rowling used that golden small flying ball and the last book when dubledore wrote how open that ball! ''i open at the close'' so the whole hp story ended aka the last year of hogwarts where rowling released the first book aka 1998. btw the story with grinderwald around 1926...

[@firxanza5172]

Grindewald sharing his "prophetic vision" was a tribute to how the Oracle of Delphi would share her "visions from Apollo" by inhaling "green mist" that put her into a trance Gellert Grindewald was said to be a natural born seer, he wasn't half a quack like Professor Trelawney, he could control his moments of "prophecy" and share them with an audience, while Professor Trelawney could not control her "prophetic predictions" and would instead fall into trances while spouting "prophecies", but she would not remember what she had said once she regains her senses

[@gipsymelody1268]

it was not a vision but a ''memory'' the muggle guy recognized as the big war!

[@princeytron]

@@gipsymelody1268No the vision was of WW2. The muggle was a vet from WW1, he was saying “not *another* war” horrified at the idea of a war happening again after the horrors of the last one.

[@gipsymelody1268]

@@princeytron are you sure? Because the muggle guy said the War which mean the First World War And just for case the mushroom form not nuclear bomb exclusive! It do any bomb which is enough big

[@princeytron]

@@gipsymelody1268 Yes I am sure. His exact words were “Not another war” another, meaning a second one. This is set between WW1 and WW2. He fought in the First World War, he was in the trenches and saw the horrible fighting, he is horrified at the prospect of *another* war starting after what he saw from the last one. The visions show the atomic bombs, concentration camps, and spitfire aircraft levelling European cities. All exclusively indicative of WW2. Grindlewald is known to have Seer abilities. This is a vision of the future he is showing the crowd, a vision of the war that mundanes will start.

[@gipsymelody1268]

@@princeytron I thought it is the first ww and I am sure even the ww1 technology easly dog walk the whole magician society!

[@rajiv45321]

Magical hitler warns about the Muggle one. Nice.

[@sam-ht6qv]

He's nothing like Hitler, get your pea sized brain to realize that there are distators who are justified 😂

[@lailai2288]

The difference between voldemort n grindelwald is voldemort only focused on harry n hogwarts but grindelwald focused on the world scale issue between muggle world n non-muggle world

[@InitialPC]

voldemort did focus on the whole world, he was just starting with the uk and its not that his entire focus was on harry and hogwarts, he took over the ministry by the last movies grindelwald shouldnt have started a war on multiple fronts "lets piss off america, the uk, AND the germans all at the same time!" - said no one smart ever

[@adnansz8930]

@@InitialPC i honestly think he could be a leader if wizard leader chose by people. but he failed to become a wizard leader because some of baby horse.

[@InitialPC]

@@adnansz8930 it was a vote, the horse thing is called a qilin basically it identifies the strongest or most capable person in a crowd or whatever, so when the qilin "bowed" to him (it was forced with magic) everyone voted for him

[@DoctorWhoKage]

​​@@InitialPCbut that's what the guy you're replying to is talking about. Why have elections when, for all intents and purposes, the Qilin can make the decision for you? The Qilin influenced the election and rigs in the favor of whoever is most "pure of heart" or whatever. Whoever is the best-est good guy of them all. Don't you think that's a tiny bit underhanded?

[@879SCSP]

While this story never did anything with it, I'd love to see a book tackle the impact an atom bomb would have on a world of witches and magical creatures. Like no matter how powerful your spells are, the non-magical people of the world have finally surpassed you and there's nothing you can do. Like imagine how horrifying that would be.

[@thedarkone9552]

@@decrox13 Those are hardly the reasons the 2nd and 3rd movie were thrashed so much.

[@asdfffs]

There's literally nothing the muggle world could do against a band of wizards and witches who can be in any place of the world at any time just by choosing to be somewhere, who can mind control without effort, who can do time-travel, who can burn down a country with a couple of wand swishes and be invisble :P Send a nuke? Alright, a single wizard flies up and turns it into a popsicle, or worse, redirects it back. They don't play by same rules. They have indestructible things that not even magic can penetrate, they have trinkets that allow them to time-travel. I don't think an "anti gun" spell be too difficult to figure out. I mean just imagine a fourth year who can apparate and cast the Imperius curse, this one kid could take control over every single nuke in the world would they choose

[@NoName-hg6cc]

​@@asdfffsExcept they cannot do anything of what you said

[@baneofbanes]

@@asdfffssure thing buddy.

[@MrBell-iq3sm]

Rowling never manages to create interesting or coherent sociable dynamics. That's why nothing about the wizard's society changes on HP. That's why awful aspects of the system are simply brushed off and people, who try to change things, are portrayed as annoying or wrong. According to Rowling, changing society is wrong, and it's never the systems, it s individuals to blame. A neoliberal hellhole.

[@S_J_banana]

I wish Johnny was still in this series. :(

[@rabidwolf]

Have you seen the awful new Grindelwald in the latest movie? Terrible they need to bring back Johnny asap

[@S_J_banana]

@@rabidwolf ikr

[@jasonevans8914]

Blame only one person

[@chriztianhusher8401]

We all know who to blame on this situation now, do we!?

[@GbengaAdewoyin]

@@jasonevans8914 Amber

[@princeytron]

The best part of this whole thing is that Grindlewald is *right.* Muggles are literally as he says they are, power-lustful and arrogant. Wizards are arrogant in their own way, and some are power-lustful. But the vast majority of Wixen are very “i just wanna live in blissful peace”. Why? Because Wizards don’t need to harm others to stave off privation. To get the resources they require they need only their magic. Sure some people need to produce food, but very, very few. That food can be ultimately distributed infinitely through magic. Other than that, no manual labour is required, magic solves almost all problems. This results in Wixen being very content with themselves. What would they need with stealing land and resources? Their land they can just make through dimensional enlarging, resources can almost always be transfigured temporarily or whatever. Even if some of these things dont apply (like a gold money system etc). For the most part, Wixen society has been stable for a long time, *but* it has been stagnant also. Muggles (who I’ll just call mundanes) this does not apply. They do not have an innate ability to offset manual labor. This means they need to create machines. (Machines being defined as anything that extends, improves, or automates manual labor). Anything from a basic pulley system, to a plot pulled by oxen. This requires more space and more resources. Those resources need themselves labor to extract and refine which requires people or more machines. This results in exploitation almost always. Even compensated exploitation. (I’m not using ‘exploitation’ as a moral term, simple a ‘I get something out of you’ thing, purely mechanical). This exploitation gives rise to temptation of power always. Those who can get a large amount of land and people under their control can exploit a larger amount of resources for themselves. This way of operating for thousands of years of human existence has hardwired us to view progress, expansion, and resource gathering this way. Wixen simply don’t think the same way. They want something? Almost always their innate magic can do it without needing to exploit someone else. And if they do it is almost always on a tiny scale. Even those exploitations are based on magic themselves. Like if you want a magical tent with internal space expansion, but don’t know the advanced magic required to create it, or the time. You can find someone who is specialised in this and purchase one from them. (This is why an economy is required even in Wixen society, no one can know every piece of magic to the degree necessary to create every magical entity) this trade is required. But it’s all based on the magic itself, or more broadly, knowledge. One person has the magical knowledge to create very complex magical objects, can produce them, and sell them to others who need them. It almost never requires outright exploitation of labor like in mundane societies. Leaders don’t need to be power hungry because of simply how easy it is for *everyone* to get everything they need with very little effort. Thus it’s just a hard fact that mundane and magical society *are* fundamentally different and based on different principles. This is a major foundation that begins to explain Grindlewald’s point. Secondly, recall how I mentioned how magical society is stagnant? The reason is actually their strength. Because they have magic for everything, they see no reason to change their ways or adapt or progress for efficiency. To them, they have all the efficiency they need to be satisfied. They don’t see “more as better” as a universal rule. They’ve always existed with having whatever they need. They see no need of massing more and more. (Except for pristine but that’s about cultural reasons like Pureblood shit which isn’t important to this). Because of this, magical society has remained socially and culturally the same almost forever. Only huge things like goblin wars have resulted in any change, and even then just political ones. This is where the major divergence in mundane society deviates. Because of mundane’s hardwired cultural/social background, efficiency, gathering more, expanding more, is always the sign of progress. Progress is the key. Without it, they’d still be hunting and gathering. Thus they are always pushing, always moving, never just content. Always needing to get more, make more, invent more. Thus they always exploit more, exploit people, exploit resources, etc. Grindlewald is saying that this is the core of mundane existence. He describes it as ‘barbarity and powerlust’ but I think I described it better. Their ways are inherently destructive and encroaching. Thus his “how long till they turn their weapons on us?” Line is far more than a fear-mongeirng statement, it is true. Due to the very nature of mundanes, if(actually when) they find magical existence, they will immediately begin exploitation as they will see magic as just another resource to enrich their society. Mundane society/culture is hardwired, they’d take magic/magicals and use it to feed *their* resource expanding process. This is inevitable. Magicals at the time of Grindlewald (and even into Harry Potters time) say stuff like “Pfft, muggles are so weak compared to us, they pose no threat” but that is the trap. That is the core flaw which spells their doom. Magical culture has been isolated from mundanes since the 1600s. Imagine even a magic Wixen against even an entire army of 1600s fighters. Some basic spells and the Wixen would win. This superiority complex is based on this paradigm. Even all these years later, the social consensus is that magicals are just so much more powerful than mundanes that they simply pose no threat. And that may actually be true in this video IN Grindlewald’s time. If for some reason magicals were discovered during Grindlewald’s time, even without Grindlewald, the magicals would stand a good chance of winning because the mundanes just aren’t technologically advanced enough. But that’s *now.* What of tomorrow? Ten years from now? A hundred? Due to the very nature of mundanes, they progress. Eventually, by literal definition, they *will* surpass the point where magicals will be able to defend themselves from them. Similarly, they will surpass a point where magicals will be able to hide. Even in Harry Potter’s time, it is becoming harder and harder to keep magicals hidden. Constant obliviate squads are set out *every day* to cover up constant exposures to magical phenomena. Plus space available for magical enclaves is shrinking. They have to squeeze themselves into mundane cities and isolated areas that will eventually be expanded into by mundanes. So, it is inevitable that mundanes *will* both discover and be able to exploit/defeat/exterminate magicals as they wish due to their nature as progressions vs the magical nature of stagnation. Grindlewald is trying to preempt this eventual confrontation by acting first. In his mind, magic is sacred, it provides everything mundanes have created this exploitative system to do anyway. Magicals have a more stable, prosperous (based on actual individual contentment, not material/resource possession) society. Thus, instead of waiting around for mundanes to discover then exploit magicals to fuel *their* exploitive system, magicals should do it in reverse, strike and take over mundane society to force the boons of magical society onto the mundanes. Sure Grindlewald does want personal power, he probably believes that magicals are superior because of the (in his eyes) negative nature of mundanes. But his ideology is consistent and factual. If he won I believe the world would be better off than the industrialised hellscape mundane society(our society) seems to be heading towards.

[@person7246]

I’m surprised no one has commented on how good of a point this is, really fun to read and think about!

[@alterralambda]

Wow, amazing point

[@bigj1905]

Your argument is interesting, but it does contain a couple of flaws: 1. I don’t buy that most Wizards are less ambitious/power hungry than their muggle counterparts. If that was true, then the entire story of the Deathly Hallows wouldn’t exist. 2. It is 100% clear that many wizards, even the good ones, look down on muggles and see themselves as superior. Not only is this fact debatable, but it nevertheless reveals a level of arrogance and ignorance in the wizard community. 3. To say that muggles would ‘exploit’ magic may be true, but the wizard community also exploits it as well. Even the most poor wizards lives much more fulfilling and happy lives than their muggle counterparts. They 100% use magic for their own benefit, even at a societal cost. 4. Innovation and progress are not inherently bad or good. Yes, we have developed terrible weapons of war and new systems of oppressions, but we have also created the ability to talk to people around the globe instantaneously and cure diseases that once killed millions. Overall, wizard’s ruling the world in Grindelwald’s vision would be bad for mankind. It would essentially become a stagnant, extremely hierarchical and apartheid society, where muggles are never allowed to have the same opportunities or resources as wizards

[@NoName-hg6cc]

​@@bigj1905Exactly

[@vishaksubramanyan1321]

Charismatic performance by Johnny Depp. Unfortunate he couldn't do the third. Would have been legendary..

[@rizukie]

the moment Grindelwald introduce a worthy opponent Oppenheimer

[@chrishamilton7516]

Sees a nuclear explosion, something never even thought of and that cannot be matched by magic and his reaction equates to: “Aw drat those muggles are gonna have another war.” MY BROTHER IN CHRIST THEY HAVE CREATED WEAPONS THAT SURPASS MAGIC.

[@yorgborg7899]

To be fair, I think magic could do far worse than a nuke. If they actually put effort into developing such a magical weapon. I mean think about it, they mastered both space and time manipulation. Creating a giant explosion should be a cake walk.

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

there is a spell that allows for total control over one's mind. that is far worse than a nuke

[@historicalshadow1454]

@@yorgborg7899 I feel like the atomic bomb scene wasn't so much them freaking out over the idea of magic being surpassed, but rather them freaking out over the power the muggles would soon have. If they can have that kind of power without magic, then what's stopping them from going even further to eventually surpass magic? Yeah, sure, they may not be able to surpass magic now, but the explosion shows that the muggles have the potential to do so.

[@OK-yy6qz]

You can argue they had already done that in WW1. Few spells have shown the same destructive capacity as artillery fire. Airplanes are Superior to brooms by far and Mustard gas was more terrible and more effective than any curse. But the idea of a second world war so closely to the first one was really Insane. WW1 was perceived by many as "the war that will end all wars". At this pace it was almost reasonable to think humanity would wipe themselves and potentially the Wizard as well out within a generation.

[@KrimzonFlygon1]

Jacob is a veteran of the Great War. The War to End All Wars. He’s seen the carnage and is certain such horrors are over and done, and then…

[@ramsesrhodes6241]

I feel kinda proud that despite us muggles not having magic we are still feared by the wizarding world

[@TheWinston86]

Yes. I’m also proud when the bomb hisses. It means we (muggles) can’t be ignored🫡

[@TheTriad001]

So the overarching villain of this trilogy is a wizard who wants to push the magical world to a more progressive way of working with Non-magical humans, get the Wizarding world out of hiding, and actively wants to stop World War 2 and the Holocaust from even starting... ... ...this is the villian?

[@IbnHamadi]

Afaik and if you watched the 3rd movie, he wanted to blow up all non-magical humans by starting a war against them lol

[@zaidq407]

@@IbnHamadi in reality, Grindelwald never wanted to destroy the muggle world but Dumbledore feared that Grindelwald will not be able to stop it from happening. Therefore they parted ways.

[@LaZonaDiRin3743]

He want slaved every muggle on the world.

[@steampunkastronaut7081]

This is the most stupid comment i have read in a while. Congratulations

[@lailai2288]

@@IbnHamadi just so suddenly.. I mad with the 3rd movie

[@Bsmith806]

Voldemort gained followers though fear Grindelwald gained followers through persuasion and charisma Grindelwald > Voldemort

[@subutaynoyan5372]

Also, Grindelwald's overall motives are kinda more real, wheras Voldemort was nothing but a manchild with a huge ego

[@SLOTHSRIDEUNICORNS]

His speech on how he views the Muggles warms my heart. I love it.

[@shubhsahay2577]

Grindelwald is way better dark lord than voldemort

[@jamesl4232]

I agree with you. Voldemort is powerful than Grindelwald. However, Grindelwald is dangerous than Voldemort. Voldemort’s loyal followers aka Death Eaters are afraid of their own leader. However, Grindelwald’s loyal followers are not afraid of their leader and they support him.

[@peter-josephlamusitele6296]

​@@jamesl4232Voldemort rules with Fear but Grindelwald ruled with respect

[@MrLucascanuto]

I can see why Dumbledore fell for him

[@Darksage1331]

Recasting Depp's Grindelwald was the biggest fucking mistake WB did with this series

[@rabidwolf]

Give Johnny back his role. He made this movie. Just saw 3rd movie and was so disappointed in the new Grindelwald. I'm no longer threatened by him or am impressed at all. He doesn't even look or dress the same. After Johnny's performance I used to go back n forth between who I liked better Voldemort ( my original favorite) or Grindelwald now after 3 rd movie no contest. The dark lord would destroy the new Grindelwald. Bring back Johnny for last 2 movies. Explain he looked different cuz he was in disguise like in the first. But bring Johnny back now

[@pirateeagleofficial]

I agree

[@abbybrowning2885]

YES I love how Johnny preformed in this movie and I’m not a fan of the new one he just doesn’t give off the intimidating vibe

[@dcspidey1218]

Nor does he act the same

[@khylerbane4523]

What would be interesting is if the Nuking of Japan actually took out part of the Japanese wizard world unintentionally. In Hiroshima or Nagasaki there was either a massive part of the wizard world or even worse, the Japanese wizarding school. But when the bomb dropped it took the place out along with everyone in it. The reason it went unnoticed by the muggles is because at that point there were just ruins and corpses so everything just blended together. So the didn’t notice anything or think twice, but tge Wizards were *horrified* with what happened and realized what Grindelwald was trying to say… Humanity’s inability to use magic doesn’t make them inferior, it just lets them find new ways to obtain unimaginable power.

[@metadude1234]

Could easily make a theory that the still standing archway was a gateway into the Japanese wizarding world; if they wanted to avoid the discomfort of nuking Japanese wizards

[@Arondeight]

This Grindelwald, Jonny Depp's depiction of Grindelwald, is what grows from its original depiction. When he was cast, he was still in the shadow of those overwhelming, unjust, aberrant accusations. Now his casting is seen as greater, charismatic, entrancing. I only hope the final chapter of Grindelwald's movie story encompasses both Mikkelsen and Depp. Let the rules of the universe's magic allow both to play the role simultaneously.

[@Arondeight]

10 months on, and my opinion hasn't weakened. They have strengthened. The Dumbledore vs. Grindelwald scene is ripe to allow both actors to shine. If the movie makers have the strength to do so.

[@HaoPieldeoso]

If muggles turn their weapons on wizards, its over for them. For the wizards of course.

[@HazbinHotelStaff]

Magic can be just as powerful as any nuke. Only difference is that muggles are faster and dedicated to advancing while Magic is used as an art, not war. But they can be dangerous if they tried.

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

Iirc both world wars advanced technology very fast so applying the same logic on magic means someone might figure out how to make a nuke level spell.

[@HazbinHotelStaff]

@@AxisChurchDevotee It’s definitely a possibility but of course the Minister of Magic will always not see it as a good idea.

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

@@HazbinHotelStaff Yeah it would instantly be considered an unforgivable curses due to its destruction potential

[@alexanderforrest1983]

@@AxisChurchDevotee not even that. It would be if you even know how to cast the curse you’d be put to death. It would either have to be near impossible to cast to rival how it is actually really hard to create a nuclear explosion, or be so deadly everyone who knew of it would be killed and all evidence erased.

[@AxisChurchDevotee]

@@alexanderforrest1983 Probably for the best.

[@joewhitehead3]

You can’t help but compare Grindelwald to Voldemort even though they’re very different. Grindelwald saw his fellow witches & wizards as his equals & wished to liberate them. He also didn’t hate muggles & didn’t love killing so much Voldemort, on the other hand, hated muggles, looked down on his fellow witches & wizards & wanted to rule of all of them. & he pretty much loved killing

[@princeytron]

Yeah the differences in their ideology is very interesting. Grindlewald saw magic itself as the determining factor of supremacy. He saw that the very fact magic chose someone to bestow itself on as proof of that person’s superiority. Thus it has no baring if they are born to muggles or to half bloods or anything else. His ideology was simply magic-supremacy. The idea that Wixen are inherently superior and deserve to rule because they have magic. It’s a clear Muggle/Wizard divine, clear cut, one vs the other. Thus it has wider impacts. He sought to subjugate the entire muggle population. His plans encompassed the entire world, both magical and not. Voldemort however looked down on and hated muggles, yes. But he was also largely dismissive of them. He had no care for the muggle world. In his ideal society, magicals would be completely separate from the muggle world, no mixing at all. Muggleborn babies would be taken from their muggle parents and the parents memories wiped. The magical babies would be raised in the magical world. No muggle-magical interaction. His discrimination was focused within the magical population and based on Pureblood philosophy of magical lineage. So while he saw Magicals as superior, he clearly much more clearly cared for *which* magicals are superior over others. Muggles are not even people to him, little more than chattel. Muggleborns are people, yes, but the lowest of people. Akin to an Untouchable in India or a Jew in Nazi Germany. Sure they can live, but always at the lowest station to show their place. If you compare the two sides, Grindewald is objectively the most destructive as he sought to infect/impress his will on everyone, magical or not. Whereas Voldemort wanted the Muggle world utterly separate and irrelevant to Wixen. So even if Voldemort completely won, the Muggles would be largely left alone except to sometimes serve as sadistic entertainment for him and his followers. But he had no grand visions for the muggle world itself, just the magical. But living under Voldemort was horrific and Grindlewald would have provided a better society. Grindlewald for all his faults at the very least was an idealist with an actual ideology he hoped to bring forth. He had a vision for the world. He had a coherent plan for governance and society etc. Voldemort as is clearly shown is almost entirely concerned with personal domination and power. He truly is the most selfish creature possible and only cares for his own survival and power. He would happily allow every Pureblood to die if it gave him something he wanted. He may care superficially about this cause but truly he cares almost entirely on his own selfish whims. Thus he is far worse because he is far less mature and more dangerous right? Cuz at least Grindewald had a worldview and would presumably not cross certain lines if it contradicts with his world goal. For example he didn’t want to eradicate muggles because he saw Wixen ruling them as better for everyone, muggles included. Voldemort would happily exterminate any group in the world if he felt he’d get something personal from it. Out of them both, Grindewald is the most effective and overall destructive. But Voldemort is the worst by far just due to how he is as a person. At least in my opinion.

[@anthonybramante2921]

Imagine Grindewald and Sebastian Shaw teaming up...

[@jamesvanitas]

X-Men First Class was underrated

[@jadeplanet]

Grindelwald is like Napoleon, while Voldemort is like Hitler.

[@isaiahmiller3180]

“Not another war!” Extremely underrated line

[@dcspidey1218]

Johnnie Depp is the one true Grendalwald!

[@Maxime_G]

yeeeah

[@ThomasRobinson-by2wm]

Maybe. Maybe not

[@arielfetters5662]

And the thing is, Grindlewald was right. I'm all for letting people choose their fate, but when nukes get involved I get a lot more 'aw hell naw'.

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

grindelwald was of course wrong and insane. your excuses for his crimes are horrifying

[@carnotaurusofficial1417]

Grindelwald want to enslave the non-magical people to wizards, like the Elfs, like animals. Do you want to be a slave of the wizards ?

[@Z.O.M.G]

3:15 and this is why Voldemort would be destroyed in a war with muggles

[@SLOTHSRIDEUNICORNS]

The sad truth is, he's right, yet ego gets in the way and they have to be right at all times. Which means we are left in the dark tied to the torture table.

[@Minnaloushe110]

Johnny is the real Grindelwald. Mikkelsen might be a good actor, but when it comes to Grindelwald, he just can't get it right.

[@patriciaariley5810]

He was right in theory but wrong in methods.

[@_martian101]

Pretty much Hitler

[@pen1smonster329]

looks like bro predicted the atomic bomb

[@Leslie_Burke]

He legitemately could see some future which made him OP as hell ever for a wizard. So ofc he did.

[@efma3589]

I'm not going to lie, if I were there, he would have convinced me lol

[@ZaidThePalestinian]

Same

[@donnalichvarcik9358]

Johnny looks so good as our favorite wizard king gellert Grindelwald ☠️🖤🤍

[@kelvinkaw5460]

Only amber heard can beat grinderwald 1vs 1

[@marcelloavanzini5801]

Beatiful video I like so much this scene when newt scamander and your brother they would capture gellert grindelwald🤩🤩

[@HrLBolle]

3:40 try to name one of man's many creations, something more terrifying then what bore this cloud rising

[@thedarkone9552]

Communism. A guideline of a death cult. So far it claimed hundreds of millions souls and still keeps reaping more.

[@agus_pax8796]

The tsar bomb

[@HrLBolle]

@@agus_pax8796 true, but do you know the other far more terrifying discoveries? A little help to find direction: The recent pandemic has been rumoured to be one the triumvirate

[@pedrocapitao9268]

It is funny, many people nowadays adore polititians like Grindelwald, they do not get that the "not worthless but of a different value" is a hoax.He said to one of his followers " we do not say those things outloud". Think twice, your savior might be a Grindelwald.

[@rc59191]

If you want to truly see how ineffective magic, sorcery, dragons, and all that other stuff is against modern technology watch the first two seasons of Gate. It's an amazing show that shows just how doomed the wizards would actually be if they got into a world war with modern armies.

[@jcbarron2783]

Ain't no way bro, that series was terrible. Their magic world their sucked ass. The enemies were stupid, why the hell would they send their army to suddenly attack through a portal without knowing what's on the other side? The enemies are dumb, and there was barely any magic, it's mostly just medieval men fighting the 21st century

[@HamguyBacon]

gate is roman era technology vs modern military, its not really fair. its also used a propaganda for the Japanese defense force.

[@jcbarron2783]

@@HamguyBacon agreed bro, there is almost 0 magic. only magical thing is dragons

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

@@HamguyBacon Actually calling it a Modern Military is grossly overselling it. The Japanese Defense Force are basically the national guard rather than an army who use older, less effective weapons. Propoganda or not, we'd still win.

[@HamguyBacon]

@@thefanwithoutaface8105 abe made a new law that they can be used for offensive military operations in retaliation to china.

[@donnalichvarcik5588]

This is the reason why we love gellert Grindelwald aka Johnny badass depp Jr

[@Prakriti-yi5kp]

Now I get that he predicted the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombing

[@vanstarate]

4:26 AMONGUS

[@moonlight.z6543]

"Not lesser, but other." I'm going to stick with that, actually.

[@SotoSlasher57]

Albert. When I came to you with those calculations. We thought we might start a chain reaction that would destroy the entire world. I remember it well. What of it? ……I believe we did.

[@brontiago]

I do not hate the no majeek, the mahgools

[@Hhhdjjernbr]

4:25 moment I heard this im like “oh shit he’s gonna murder the whole fucking room” 💀

[@HaadUmarKhadija]

Thing is grindelwald is not only powerful in the dark arts but all fields of magic

[@mustafakemal7701]

Çok etkileyici bir konuşma

[@nnaann7788]

when someone misspells a word on the internet: 1:19

[@noorykorky5056]

Theseus is a wondrous leader.

[@ufinc]

he's right you know

[@AlexisArtemisGreenHoward1]

He is the best, you can be the most virtuas and moral wizard in the world and he will still be successful in winning over your darker side, you'll be seduced instantly.

[@MrMgkman13]

I do think Mads was a better Grindelwald and should have probably been cast in the first place, but I liked Depp’s performance. As he got the role first I don’t think he should have lost it the way that he did. He should have been allowed to continue because now they do feel slightly different.

[@graw211]

Totally agree, people just fan over someone because just his name it's Just lame

[@sliceofgames8558]

Nah. Warner Brothers shit the bed getting rid of Depp. Mads was terrible

[@obbligato35]

​@@sliceofgames8558Mads Mikkelsen was not terrible, but he was more of a politician than a wizard..

[@ThomasRobinson-by2wm]

@@sliceofgames8558 While Johnny did an admirable job, Mads succeeded as Grindelwald where Johnny didn't/couldn't

[@sliceofgames8558]

@@ThomasRobinson-by2wm nah. The last thirty minutes of the first two Fantastic Beasts are phenomenal. NOTHING about the third is good. I know Depp was barely in the first but I’m speaking in general.

[@kairoward7738]

Wizards was scared about human weapons

[@stormbringer2840]

Rightfully so . We are used to our technology and understand it but objectively if an other species that rely on magic has to deal with us we are maddeningly terrifying . Like seriously people fly with brooms ? Well we can do that with plane and transport many people on very long distance. You have a killing curse that can kill someone each time you incant it ? That’s cute , may I introduce you to guns who can do that in one move without incantation and on repeat . Let’s not even talk about shot guns , missiles , grenades …etc

[@HazbinHotelStaff]

Grindelwald was literally about to Destory all of Paris in this movie... imagine more wizards with this power worldwide? Wizards will win.

[@corporatejones9126]

Wizards and muggle are both humans

[@sakaleyNn]

GRINDELWALDDD🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@Deathtrooper-kn7cr]

Johnny sin dudas fue un increíble Grindelwald. El debió haber continuado en la tercera. Mads no lo hizo mal pero ya se sintió como un villano genérico. En esta escena de 5 minutos con Johnny teníamos un Grindelwald más carismático y manipulador que realmente da buenos argumentos para sus motivaciones. Dan hasta ganas de seguirle. En una sola pelicula vi mejor villano a Grindelwald que Voldemort en toda su historia.

[@ClaireR3]

I still say this was the best of FBaWtFt seties

[@HazbinHotelStaff]

Grindelwald was literally about to destroy all of Paris in this movie... if he can do that, imagine how many trained wizards can do that throughout the world and destroy everything... Wizards would win.

[@Suprisedbuzz]

Guns. And tanks. And aircraft And the navy. And nukes all beg to differ. And there are way more muggles than wizards.

[@HazbinHotelStaff]

@@Suprisedbuzz Imperous Curse would be the winning tool. And don't forget that Wizards literally have demontors that are immune to everything and can bring cold freezing temperatures... that would be their wild card.

[@Suprisedbuzz]

@@HazbinHotelStaff um.... 1 percent of the population are wizards. Plus, the wizards rely on magic, and not all of Them are the same strength. We have massive armies, planes, naval ships, bombs, aircraft, and so much more. Not to factor in our numbers. Sure, wizards are powerful, but they don't have the numbers to win. If it was 10-20 percent of the population were wizards, they'd win. But it's less than 1 percent. Muggles win no diff.

[@HazbinHotelStaff]

@@Suprisedbuzz You're ignoring that Wizards have the Imperious curse. Don't you known how EASILY wizards can just get to the president or chain of command? You literally have wizards who work in the Army and can get to the president or Prime Ministers... Wizards can literally send out Demontors and destroy the muggles... Demontors literally can't be destroyed and they multiply like rabbits... the imperious curse can literally force the Government to nuke their own Allies and themselves... Heck, JK Rowlling stated that Wizards don't need to fight and that they can win with the secret of secrecy... we know Wizards are not experienced in combat. But they have ALOT of things up their sleeves like Time Travel and Reality Warp.

[@HazbinHotelStaff]

@@Suprisedbuzz You're ignoring that Wizards have the Imperious curse. Don't you known how EASILY wizards can just get to the president or chain of command? You literally have wizards who work in the Army and can get to the president or Prime Ministers... Wizards can literally send out Demontors and destroy the muggles... Demontors literally can't be destroyed and they multiply like rabbits... the imperious curse can literally force the Government to nuke their own Allies and themselves... Heck, JK Rowlling stated that Wizards don't need to fight and that they can win with the secret of secrecy... we know Wizards are not experienced in combat. But they have ALOT of things up their sleeves like Time Travel and Reality Warp.

[@donnalichvarcik5588]

Gellert Quinn Grindelwald is the wizard version of Adolf Hitler

[@Sumschmuck]

Wasn't voldemort supposed to be hitler since he actually was hellbent on killing all non wizards

[@Heligoland360]

Adolf Hitler wanted to stop WW2?

[@lockdown1057]

Spot on!

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

@@Heligoland360 grindelwald doesnt so whats your point?

[@Heligoland360]

@@godemperorofmankind3.091 OK sure but he did emphasise the upcoming destruction of WW2 in his propaganda.

[@GGritsun]

This is what you get when you let JohnnyDepp ACT. BRILLIANT

[@vaclavnovacek1035]

This was probably the only really good scene in the movie, but god, it sure as hell gave me chills

[@billalee3230]

I really love him as grindelwald ong he got that rizz

[@TallTrees420]

3:12 for Grindelwald vapes 😅

[@firxanza5172]

unlike You Know Who, who was simply a "mind reader" (legilimens), Grindewald was a natural born seer (kind of like Professor Trelawney, only he could control his "prophetic visions")

[@Arklay_98]

Fuck yeah team science for win!!!!

[@murtaza19alikhan]

Voldemort is so in your face... it's like as if he hates himself... a great villain must never hate himself/herself (meaning the actor essaying the character should not appear to be hating the character himself)... that's what makes Depp's Grindelwald so great... there is malice and deceit in equal parts... he surely can win elections far more easily than Voldemort... of course having a proper nose instead of just two nostrils also helps 😉

[@alvaroo.s.2083]

It's pretty curious, while the wizards limited themselves to observe the premonition of the WW II with curiosity and indifference, Jacob is the one who looks more in shock and in fear.

[@glennmandigo6069]

This man was the Wizard version of Hitler

[@futuristicgirl14]

Johnny’s inability to hold a consistent accent is insane

[@RussianNationalist]

bro is doing a hitler speech but in magic

[@left4deadian]

I would find it pretty funny if the vision showed them instead of ww2 it would be space battles with mech suits and space ships the size of cities duking it out destroying leveling continents and planets.

[@MHAOvercharged]

They'd pass out by that point lol. They'd be having existential crisis to see a once weak race being an unbeatable race.

[@mpourdelo1245]

He convinced me

[@0xDgalinha]

O Brasil precisa de um Grindewald, nesse momento.

[@baneofbanes]

No

[@prithvirajbasu4196]

Don't get me wrong, I am as mad as everyone else is about Johnny Depp getting unfairly fired (as well as understand that he's the real victim of the situation he was in) but especially in comparison to his Jack Sparrow, Mad Hatter and Sweeney Todd, I don't feel his heart was completely in for this character. Mads Mikkelsen was more threatening (feel free to disagree though, as long as the comments below are polite)

[@princej2742]

Do I hate him or follow him. I am confused

[@babakescobat8008]

He is a fool.

[@MrBell-iq3sm]

No, Rowling is just a bad writer, who believes that society mustn't be changed at all and that only individualistic actions can be taken, because the system is perfect, only some individuals are not. That's why nothing changes in HP and the heroes become part of the government.

[@dominicchallis2928]

@@MrBell-iq3smA fellow Shaun connoisseur perchance?

[@thomasharrison-zeronis2253]

Anyone think its like the Donald Trump of Harry Potter with the Maga?

[@MultiJames95]

I sense Benito Mussolini in Gellert Grindelwald as much as I saw Adolf Hitler in Tom Marvolo “Lord Voldemort” Riddle.

[@kevinthunder3375]

Hmm, I always pictured GG as Joseph Stalin.

[@mikecrusader2000]

makes you wonder how the wizarding world handled both ww wars/

[@mikecrusader2000]

Destruction was everywhere.

[@Josh-xh9qn]

While i think Mads was a good replacement, but no fault of his portrayal. Lacked that charismatic quality that Depp has mastered

[@GonzoZero]

Masterpiece

[@vuvuvu6291]

I mean, in 2000's the magic and wizardry community stuck with muggle's early 1900's technology. They have every rights to be afraid.

[@patriciaariley5810]

What I keep wondering is what happened to all those kids that Barebone woman had kidnapped " adopted".

[@user-qv9zv2qi9v]

Now please correct me if i am wrong. It was this speech that John jumped on this part? Forget everything that happened, and listen closely to the words he is speaking.. He truly ment them, even if it is a movie 🦋😇🧸😘

[@yanyanzhang5813]

Say what you want about the movies and their plot (though FB1 was legitimately awesome) but the acting and characters in this series just hit right.

[@Tae-Joon-Park]

As a German I normally don’t want to start a war and like commit genocide But you know… he’s quite convincing

[@th3m1st0cl3s]

so to boil this down into one sentence: the heroes of this series are actively fighting to ENSURE the holocaust happens.

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

what? no. his plan would have been ten times worse than that. earlier in the movie they blast some muggles, and grindelwald's like "we need to spare a few of them". he acted out of magical supremacy, and thought he deserved to be an absolute dictator because he had magic.

[@MrBell-iq3sm]

Yes.

[@MrBell-iq3sm]

@@godemperorofmankind3.091 So? Him wanting to be on top doesn't change the fact that the heroes did fight to ensure the holocaust happens. Nothing was done about WW2 and the only one, who tried to stop it, was portrayed as the villain. An awful story and poor attempt at deflecting the "Why didn't the Wizards stop WW2" criticism.

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

@@MrBell-iq3sm 1. they dont know for sure whether or not to trust the obviously evil supervillain's warnings 2. grindelwald is planning something worse. 3. wizards made a decision centuries ago not to interrfere in muggle affairs because doing that would reveal their own presence and potentially start a muggle vs wizard war. 4. wizards can't police human affairs forever and you shouldnt want them to. how long before they start abusing their new power? did you know that Voldemort could take over the entire goddamn world with two spells in a few hours and NOTHING would be able to stop him except other wizards? apparate and imperio. this problem has come up with eternals. people demand eternals do all the work for us, and protect us from ourselves. but how far would that go? 5. there's dark wizards arising all the time, so they simply have their own shit to deal with and cant constantly be worrying about muggles.

[@BlueRazor69]

This scene is why I like Grindelwald over Voldemort. I've always felt that Voldemort is the weakest part of the series. Tom Riddle is a cartoon character, a snake faced and dark cloaked evil wizard who wants to subjugate the world. He has no rhyme or reason for doing this other than a feeling of superiority. Grindelwald articulates himself in ways that Voldemort does not. He's more complex, dynamic. Charming and personable to a degree. The best villains are the hero's of their own story.

[@MrBell-iq3sm]

To be fair, everyone in the HP series is a cartoon character.

[@audreyharris7643]

Pure evil villains have a fun factor to them

[@fallenorrisen120]

3:43 How I feel about the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

[@trevor3013]

That cringe surprised gasp sound effect that is used in so many movies and shows at 3:16.