Is Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel Killing TCG?

[@matija5748]

Tcg is killing tcg.

[@CrimsonRedVoid]

He not wrong tho

[@bethoilamphim9571]

OCG is also killing the TCG with its lore cards

[@Dakesz]

was my first thought when I saw the title of this.

[@AlexCrisVFX]

yow dawg

[@Zerphy08]

Konami is killing tcg

[@pretends2know]

One thing not mentioned enough is there are no ruling disputes in Master Duel.

[@spicymemes7458]

I learned rulings this way too rather than getting in a fight with some rando in a backwards hat

[@Someone-lg6di]

Happened with me when I did physical person argued evenly didn't count itself so I'd have to exile board and the judge ruled his way (he was a friend of the judge)

[@CeeCeeCaldwell]

Evenly is still on the field at the time of its effect, therefore is always +1 to your board not much to argue about. Is it on the field resolving, or in the grave. Ez pz​@@Someone-lg6di

[@hurrdurrmurrgurr]

We've come along way from sitting around, yelling at each other over dueling book while waiting for a judge.

[@pspsmallz]

Yeah unless theres a bug, glitch or exploit that's not intended, this is the biggest reason for me why digital is superior.

[@trevormannsfield]

Master Duel lets me enjoy the game of Yu-Gi-Oh without ever having to meet a Yu-Gi-Oh player or interact with the Yu-Gi-Oh community. And it's free And Electrumite is legal

[@arandomflyingcat6254]

Pend best deck LET'S GOOOO

[@ShinerCCC]

Maxx C is a terrible price to pay. But anything for her

[@motivatedtoscapechildsupport]

And the other benefit is that there is no chat room or the entire game would have been toxic.

[@Honerkamp]

One of these is not like the others lmao

[@matasa7463]

You can use any card as long as you have crafting materials, and can farm for them for free. You don't need more than 3 copies per card. You don't need to keep track of things like LP and other data. It's just pure simple fun.

[@DevastatingWarrior]

I play exclusively Master Duel and it's what got me back into yugioh after not having played since early 2000's. I've been grinding ladder with an Evil Eye deck and yesterday I kinda got the urge to buy that deck in paper. Until I looked around and saw how much it would cost to get all the staples.

[@filipvadas7602]

Same tbh. Master Duel, while certainly not perfect, is a MUCH better experience for returning players than the IRL game.

[@dn526]

Nah it's just killing itself. But to be fair master duel is looking very good when compared to the alternative

[@motivatedtoscapechildsupport]

Also master duel is getting closer to modern day yugioh every day to the point that some cards are getting released at the same time or faster than tcg and reaching ocg . Vanquish soul is an example of its entire archetype getting released when tcg just recently got the entire archetype.

[@jimtsap04]

​@@motivatedtoscapechildsupportmd got promethean before even ocg

[@Ltp1305]

All we need is a way to play BO3 and incorporate older formats (GOAT, Edison. etc.) and it's golden

[@TupackYGO]

@@Ltp1305they wont do that coz that definetely will kill the tcg, dont know about the ocg

[@manchovieclemmons2380]

​@@TupackYGO probably not the ocg. Their cards are cheaper than tcg by a huge margin.

[@lancerguy3667]

Master Duel is a godsend for me. I've never had a "locals" that wasn't at least a 45 minute drive away... if I wanna play Magic, there'll always be a game shop around the block hosting events, but for some reason YGO event hosts are always spaced super far out. combine that with the price of paper creeping up, and I just can't justify the time or financial investment.

[@soulstarved4116]

If Fenrir declares an attack, both Hope and Fenrir would trigger. Turn priority so Fenrir chain 1 target, Hope chain 2. Resolve backward; Hope resolves, battles Fenrir and Fenrir would be destroyed by battle. Then Fenrir resolves and banishes target. You can completely avoid this scenario if you declare an attack on Hope because Hope can't switch attack targets if he's already the attack target.

[@ShinerCCC]

Brilliantly answered

[@TheGearFirst]

I think it’s wrong because hope harbinger uses the keyword “when” so to resolve the effect it should be chain link1

[@soulstarved4116]

@TheGearFirst Fenrir is also a when effect, but regardless, it's always turn player priority unless the effect is mandatory.

[@TheGearFirst]

@@soulstarved4116 yes and in this case the effect of fenrir should resolve because the turn player has priority but the effect of hope harbinger “loses timing”

[@soulstarved4116]

@TheGearFirst Timing is only lost if something happens before a when trigger effect has a chance to activate. In this scenario, Hope and Fenrir are basically triggering simotaneously at the same time, but you still have to order their effects, which creates a chain.

[@Gale42]

As a brazilian 18yo I'm 100% willing to take 2 buses and the almost 2h trip to my "local" shop, What I'm not willing to, however, is spending thousands (I don't even have that kind of money LOL) in my currency to play a deck that won't make me go 0-8

[@Marbons]

As Brazilian to, this fucking SUCKS, I don't have to travel that much, but every new deck feels exactly like this to me, even when I made a Labrynth deck relatively cheap (R$400/90US), the literal next month bring the new supports (Lab Buttler and Rollback), both of them cost MORE than the deck I just made, and like, Its still missing things that I will basically ONLY use in this specific strategy like Chaos Angel and Unchained links.. While in MD is like 12 URs AT MOST..

[@bernardosales1044]

As a brazilian, my city has 2 locals, both at least 1 hour away from me, and I can't play in them cause I play to win, and I can't win if a tier 2 deck costs like 2000 reais

[@runuponme3765]

you can get rogue decks waaaay cheaper. Pretty good ones too :D Edit: i dont know how the market for cards is in Brazil in terms of availability tho

[@Kaos9696]

The biggest benefit of MD over TCG is the timer. Nothing worse than burn for game 3 or malicious slow playing. MD just keeps it fair with same time available for both players.

[@lennyfeis5165]

until you play a cc

[@SloopYGO]

not to mention how stressful it is to go to time

[@BaxsStudios]

I always imagined that it would be kinda nice to have a clock like in chess its a 40 minute match everyone gets 20 mins to react or to play. Why not? It would maybe even stop playing decks that just do way to much and slow the game down. If the opponent wants to check the field he uses his time and so on you can also have a 3 min timer for siding. Maybe it would be terrible as for all the little interactions asking for effects and info but I would like to try that. Of course timer stops when asking for a judge.

[@drewmantheoriginal3106]

All of the locals around me have abandoned yugioh entirely. They don’t carry product anymore. They don’t host events anymore. I gotta travel out of state if I want to play the game at this point.

[@yogsothoth915]

Its kinda funny that the OCG has competitive pricing because there are so many card games in Japan. But the TCG kept having abusive pricing. But now the TCG is slowly going to realize it effectively needs to be competitive with the Master Duel pricing.

[@runningoncylinders3829]

MD but also Pokemon, Elestrals, Lorcana, and realistic about how much is lost when people aren’t using new products. I have seen many aging card packs on shelves that was uncommon during big sick year.

[@four-en-tee]

OCG has competitive pricing because of anti-gambling laws. They can't make products like they do in the TCG in Japan, it isn't legal.

[@frig7014]

@@four-en-teeive never seen someone deep dive explain exactly what in the law says they cant make good cards hard to pull. I think this is just something people started saying and others started believing its true.

[@yogsothoth915]

@four-en-tee that does not make any sense. The land of gacha is perfectly okay with making things hard to pull. I guarantee there is no way a law covers that.

[@abdurachmanromzy4778]

​@@yogsothoth915i think you should searching about monkeygate case by yoursel if you want to understand his context

[@nuclearcrayons3511]

Yugiboomer here: Back when I played the TCG, I hated the constant cheating and judge debates. MD is not only cheaper and more convenient, but I don't have to listen to some 300lbs mouth-breather telling how his twink cards work.

[@Chimeratech_O.D.]

Can I add that the opponent probably thinks buying all QCRs for triple the price somehow makes him a better man?

[@kingofgrim4761]

One of the biggest barriers to entry is the card text and how jumbled it is. I love how the OCG translations generally just say “You can use each of these effects once per turn. 1) search 2) special summon 3) etc Rather than needing to know what text you can effectively skip over

[@runningoncylinders3829]

Even without points or number effects the MD formatting has become popular enough to send waves of anti-paragraph wall of text remarks. The vernacular of cards is another barrier to entry besides costs, which can make things tough outside of MD, if we are really reading them.

[@__-be1gk]

It is absurdly embarassing to genuinely have to pull out your glasses to read a card's text

[@kingofgrim4761]

@@runningoncylinders3829 very true, I think it’s more important for the sheer fact that if it’s more clearly labeled, it’s easier to figure out which effect is used when you’re against a card ur unfamiliar with.

[@runningoncylinders3829]

@@kingofgrim4761 MD has another great tool for this that paper can’t replicate. The highlighting of the effect being used. If we have a future in VR or AR gaming this would be a must.

[@zaleww5824]

That wpuld kill fluffals tho even tho it's no where competitive sadly. They depend on spamming toy vendor over and over

[@madjester9844]

Oh, if they ever synch the releases of master duel and physical rather than having to wait a year or so paper will be so over

[@spicymemes7458]

That's not an issue unless you play paper as well. If you are online only, then what's the difference if you have to wait a few more months

[@runningoncylinders3829]

@@spicymemes7458True in that you’ll be able to see what people are saying about new cards, but if this is your first chance to see or use Yubel cards or Tenpai watch out, it’s new for that crowd.

[@sebastienbusque2312]

I stopped playing the real-life cards due to cost, but mostly because others stopped playing. It actually took me a few months after Master Duel went online to get in. While I do regret having put so much into it at times, playing casual is a nice way to unwind, learn new tactics and check stuff you wouldn't otherwise be able to see while playing IRL. For instance, it's hard to find off-the-wall decks and cooky strategies that work and are not Meta-locked offline, but there are channels dedicated to that online.

[@Iserior]

As some who only plays MD now, i say Konami is killing the TCG. But tbf, I am currently not playing anyway because I don't enjoy the current meta.

[@prosketch95]

And it will only get worse from here. Cant believe people used to cry about decks like Swordsoul and Vanquish Soul😂 the meta was fun back then

[@SHAO_L1N]

I'm a master duel baby, and tbh, I think the TGC is complete scam. I can't believe TCG players put up with the insane prices and non simultaneous releases. Feels completely inferior to the OCG.

[@easyygo3008]

Because you are not the target customer. You sre a cheap a s s. I'm sure you spend nothing in madter duel either

[@BaxsStudios]

You dont know how amazing the social aspect is. If you have good locals near you the interactions with friends you make is really great. Also driving together to other citys or countrys exploring them go to the tournament, go x2 dropping out and just having fun after. sitting next to each other testing hands, ratios, debating and such before tournaments is way more fun in real life then over discord. It also feels cool to have physical cards, to collect them and actually own something not just a account password. Master duel is great but so is playing in reallife. My locals never were hyper competitive so we always played fun rouge decks for the most part. We also just often played with proxys when not in a tournament setting so that also cuts the price argument. I wished they would have better pricing I would like to play meta there is certainly a lot wrong about that but tcg aint a scam it has a lot of value to do all this in person and in a community

[@TemporalDelusion]

Aging Farfa is getting more and more relatable. The price, the horrid quality of cardboard, the time, effort and annoyances of IRL play is just becoming too much of a burden combined with real life stuff. I love my locals, I love in person play, but there is just so many wounds the hobby is bleeding from...

[@aeowinh]

Yeah, at this point playing on my locals is becoming less and less fun and les and less popular, the compound of all the problems with prizing, meta and how in general the game is very very hard to get into even if you ignore the cost, a lot of people is just moving to other games when going to locals and playing YuGiOh online.

[@TheFizio]

Not even the "master duel is Free to play but goddamn you need to farm your ass off to build your deck" argument holds so perfectly... cause you can just start a new account and get showered in gems, crafting points from both achievements and "discovered secret packs", at which point the only decks you can't get right away are just the ones where almost every card is a craft-required UR

[@ZackSparks]

Also grinding is just... getting to play yugioh, the exact thing you want the cards to do its a win win

[@spicymemes7458]

You get even more now starting late because of the various celebration campaigns 2 years in that are backlogged

[@nojetplane]

Yeah seriously. Like it might not be the most seamless thing but there's nothing stopping someone from just making dozens of alts for every archetype they'd want to play without paying a cent

[@N1ghthawkL06]

also the grind is so minimal, we get so many events with gems, ranking up gies you gems, is not too har to get several decks going

[@lucynash3647]

The grind isn't even a grind. It's more like a tutorial for new player and refresher for veterans

[@francescolofaro8258]

No. Konami Is killing TCG by making every card remotely playable in the highest possible rarities.

[@neogem10]

At this point, it is better just to bring your device and play master duel in locals. It would be so much better than bringing the cards themselves.

[@tobo7580]

I've played competitive Yu-Gi-Oh until 2014. The biggest issue, that is facing Yu-Gi-Oh is the fact that the tournament structure didn't evolve with the maturing of the game and the audience, while other games like Magic, Pokémon and other card games aged with the players. Building a 1000$ deck to win a play mat and two displays is pathetic, if you compare it to a Pokémon tcg event, where doing well earns you cash or other cash related rewards. And a good pokémon deck is rarely more expensive then 150$. Yugioh never got out of its infancy in regards to these things. The opportunity cost is relatively low in comparison to the potential payout. Yu-Gi-Oh is way more volatile. And it isn't Master Duels fault. Pokémon does have an online client as well where you can play for free and craft cards for in game currency. So that isn't an argument.

[@easyygo3008]

In pokemon you need to own at least 4 decks to be remotely competitive. Is still cheaper than ygo, but you have to call things for what they sre

[@francescolofaro8258]

@@tobo7580 whats the platform tò play Pokémon?

[@Ltp1305]

Without Master Duel, I'd legit never going to touch YGO, period. The hassle of being in a small community, couple with high card price mean I will never touch paper regardless of the format anyway. And MD has been a godsend in that regards Also, I think another thing is that ... People only buy YGO cards for the gameplay, compare to other card games. Like, you don't see people buying YGO cards because they like the lore, or the artworks, or, in very rare cases, they're the fan of the characters from the anime, compare to, say, One Piece or Pokemon.

[@abdurachmanromzy4778]

Unironically beyond this decade the avaible meta deck was the one that had strong lore

[@pochi_tama]

nah, actually, I'm buying dragonmaid cards because i like the artworks and yeah, i only play MD

[@OrangeLightning86]

Konami USA is killing the TCG, Dragon Master Magia is the prime example. In the OCG, you can get it in multiple rarities. The TCG, Quarter Century Rare only and if Ruxin34 is any example, damn near impossible to pull in a pack.

[@katakuri9688]

I love master duel. tcg simply became far too expensive for me. I stopped in 2016. Of course, at the beginning I was a bit lost because I didn't know all the meta cards etc, but since MD I've been enjoying playing Yugioh again...at least online

[@andresl2596]

Its so wild to see how freely farfa seems to speak against certain aspects of the game now that he is not a konami employee. More yugitubers should be like this.

[@Freebird1994]

9:05 yes cause as we all know, the tutorial in master duel the the quickest and simplest way to learn the game of yugioh. Isn’t that right rarran?

[@monstermilk6092]

Master Duel being affordable isn’t killing the TCG, the TCG being too expensive to get into is killing the TCG

[@skysaber23]

TCG been killing itself and MD just helping accelerate it.. 😂😂😂

[@cmstokes5]

I feel like the banlist on Masterduel opens up more decks. Misc is at 3 and it doesn't even matter.

[@shakeweller]

Biggest one is Electrumite tbh opening up pendulum

[@blackbody3151]

exactly idk what farfa was talking about 36 minutes in

[@PhantomOfAhab]

The bad experience at locals does kill the interest in physical play of the game. For me, last year I started playing again since like the gx era, I played a bit about 2017 but fell off, so last year was my user where I reignited that interest in the game, I learned how to play synchros, xyzs, links, all that stuff through master duel and built my first deck to play at locals, I went there, went 1-3 because it was a small store, but with my second mach I played against a lab player who told the judge that I was marking my cards just because I had one sleeve that was a little bit smaller than the rest and It was my mistake and I told him that was my first time playing in person so I didn't knew like all the intricacies of physical play and he went on and on telling me that I was cheating. This wasn't like a ots tournament or anything just like a casual thing where people was testing out decks for the upcoming ycs. (Also I was winning that mach) Do anyway I felt like really dumb and slow, so now I prefer playing just MD where i can just take my time with the confines of the limitations and now one will look at me like I'm a dim witted fool.

[@bangster1869]

thats what discourges a lot of players i cant imagine being that much of a bum just becasue of a small gritty detail like that.Bro was just abusing rules

[@ChampionMarx]

As a man with a very busy schedule it can be hard putting aside multiple hours of my night to go to locals so the draw of getting to play any time is nice. Also never needing to worry about illegal actions is good too. However playing side by side with a real person is just such a high so there is a dichotomy

[@thetitsarefree]

Just a personal anecdote: I stopped playing TCG around Dragon Rulers, sold all my cards, but still enjoyed some content around yu-gi-oh. I didn’t start playing again til master duel because it’s free to play. Otherwise I still wouldn’t be playing

[@XxShindouxX]

Not going to lie I personally think Master Duel is the best thing Konami has put out since the original series. It is far and beyond the best way to play yugioh

[@boydthames1460]

10:13 I quite the tcg for master dual, this was about a year ago now, never been happier

[@TinPrince]

I don't think TCG is inherently less interesting, I think the issue is the lack of production value in the TCG events draws a much bigger contrast to the relative polish of the master duel ones.

[@kiranearitachi]

Farfa one mulchurmy isn't one pokemom deck it's like 5-6 decks

[@animevolution880]

Imo the best thing about md is just the variety you have You could have a full on salad deck, a full visas 60 card pile where you play all variants, a kashtira, a tear deck, a full on imsety horus pharao deck, use that engine in all decks as well, craft the board breakers for all your going second variants, get yourself your nibirus, all handtraps once and you are done for most of your life I:p, s:p, appo, acces code, zeus baron ect And the amount of gems you get is crazy, solo mode allow gives you a huge amount if you are in dire need, else all the events and mission give you the much needed ones Yes if you want to play every deck in the game its not doable, BUT if you only wanted to play one meta deck every meta for the competitive players, or certain archetypes that you specially like, its so easily doable The only thing/deck that doesnt allow it if you are a pendulum lover (me) and most of their cards are not generic enough for the other decks

[@rufuspilula247]

I haven't played the physical game since ~2015. Then I tried it again with Speed Duels and Edison last year. All the memes are real. The cards are too small and the text is tiny, while the effect box is an incomprehensible mess compared to every other physical card game I played. It's something you'll never notice unless you stop playing and go touch grass for a few years. When you come back you realize that ygo card text is like someone vomiting an alphabet soup into your eyes. Players don't notice this because they memorize the card text and associate it to card names and images. This way you rarely re-read the effects. That's why the "Yugioh players don't read" meme is true. And that's honestly the real issue. The pricing issue only affects people playing competitively, which are in the minority. Most players are just casuals playing tier 3 decks or using alternatives to the most expensive cards in their decks. The cute version of Maxx C being €100+ is irrelevant when the average player will just use a €1 card instead. Digital is the way to go. Be it official video games or unofficial sims.

[@ZackeroniAndCheese]

Master Duel has festivals with different card pools or rules. Festivals are my most played formats sure. My locals and other players may actually host fun events like this if Konami encouraged it.

[@Eltanin]

As someone who doesn't go to locals anymore but still wanna collect physical cards every now and then, the TCGs pricing problem is so god damn atrocious that it's even killing my desire to collect paper. Why do they do things where they see a card is doing well in the OCG, they'll make it so it's ONLY available as the highest rarity printing and nothing else in the TCG. Why is it that when accessible new-player friendly products like the Tactical Try Decks are introduced in the OCG, the TCG willfully ignores their existence because they don't want you to access easy reprints. Why is it that products like the Complete File -The White Story with the Branded story cards or the YuGiOh Card Game Art Works Book with the Sky Striker ROTA not even considered to be localized for the global market???? WHY TCG WHY????

[@spicymemes7458]

I got tired of complaining and moved entirely to MD. I want physical TCG to die out now

[@Entharias]

After coming back to playing YGO with Master Duel's release, i've been wanting to play TCG but due to the local scene being dead around me and the prices not being friendly at all, i decided against it. I think the TCG will always have its own charm but if Konami insists on shafting the players with meta options being shortprinted and/or expensive then i wouldn't be surprised if some just swapped to Master Duel.

[@ปัณณธรประชากุล]

I think prices is a deciding factor for me. If I want to play any deck, I can make a new Email, registered new Nintendo account and then start a new account on Master Duel. Took about 2-3 hours grinding I will get a semi completed version of the deck I wanted to play barring the staples. Only few exceptions like those that hasn't been added to secret pack yet or something like HERO.

[@Spookiester]

Miss playing locals but man TCG side is overpriced.

[@TheFizio]

4:10 You expect people who click the shiny yellow card to know how to use their gems and UR-CPs?😂

[@ziggystardust1973]

I wonder if the ocg is suffering in a similar way to the tcg, or if the cheaper cards make it less of a problem

[@tame1773]

Like half of yugiohs problem is price, meta be damned

[@realretrorager9418]

@@tame1773 Stapels and decks that have been upshifted in rarity by the TCG, and thus skyrocketed in price. Fuwaross, a $130 secret rare, is a STANDARD RARE in OCG.

[@arkanamaster4961]

Ocg decks are extremely cheaper due to decks not being high rarity like in the tcg. Yugioh ocg is on the price point of Pokémon

[@angrymom1515]

I live in rural texas ain't no way I'm driving 40 minutes to my nearest local when masterduel is right there.

[@huggelion]

you can make a new deck every month after you get the staples and that is with out getting rid of old decks

[@realretrorager9418]

Yet NEW staples, upped in rarity by the TCG, are needed. The new (mainly meta-) decks, UPPED IN RARITY BY THE TCG, become your new decks. it's just a problem of rarity-, and thus price-gouging in paper which turned me off of playing YGO in paper after attempting to get into it.

[@aeowinh]

Having Master Duel dealing with convoluted rulings and interactions in YuGiOh make it a lot more fun as well, you can actually focus on playing the deck you like instead of learning the thousands of interactions, the timings of card effects and rulings that you are force to deal with in paper.

[@CardboardCollect]

I learned how to play Yugioh Period on MD the fact it’s all guided and spelled out for you helped a lot

[@sofarsogood8680]

Konami obviously gonna push for VR game. They even ask us players in survey if we willingly to buy VR headset

[@spicymemes7458]

I would

[@bioniclelegend7]

I played Yugioh in 2018 - 2019 and quit because it just afford the travelling to to regionals, buy cards to compete events and do terrible lol I made it to Euros just felt I wasn't getting any fun out of it and when masterduel came out and it was a massive breath of fresh air and gave me what I want which was just to play yugioh whenever I want. I have enjoyed it so much to date from release I have spent $2,770 and have no regretted a cent and have loads of decks (most I haven't even played lol). I also have 1,000 hours in the game. I have enjoyed it so much I started playing Edison at my locals and even thought of playing the decks I had made in masterduel at my locals which was Scareclaw and omg I was shocked at the difference. Cards just so much more expensive and like even before the tins spending like 10 euro each on an astraloud when I wanted 2 was just eh especially when I needed other cards. Let alone wanting to play SP like how in masterduel it's 30 UR where as in TCG it was like 100 before and is like 50 now? but for that I could just make an entirely new deck in masterduel. I have made a budget Scareclaw deck though and told me friends and they all just told me to not play modern as it sucks. There are some bad personality people there which bring down the mood when playing against them, some not fun decks to play against decks like Kash and doesn't sound the best right now but I thought I might go sometime just periodically until I started thinking about actual TCG product. I was looking at the rarity collection 2 at first and was interested in buying a box as I wanted the Visas field spells and 1 was pretty good until I saw the price. Why did they increase it? Sure you get more cards but it's so much more expensive I just bought one pack and traded what I got at the shop for some edison cards.Then I looked forward to the tins as I would like some tins to keep cards in and there was some reprints and I liked the tins in 2018 and then the unboxing came out and I saw how awful the pulls and how anything good is in a way over bloated secret pool with no good rarity down grades. Why are Vanquish Souls secrets when they were ultras at release and really hard to get? really konami? I also thought about buying a box of ROTA as I want the insect stuff for beetroopers and it's all commons and super but if I bought a box I would probably get bad secrets and it's just better for me to buy singles than the box. All these things together has just really killed my mood to play TCG. If I feel like I get value for my time and money I will spend and play like in masterduel but they just ruining the products I feel and as you said with playing at locals, I have travel for over an hour to get to mine only to probably do ok and get an OTS pack with random stuff I don't care about. Really to be honest for me the biggest killer for playing TCG is just value for money. If the sets were like the OCG and you could get good cards at minimum super I would buy packs and actually try to play but they won't so I am just going to stick with masterduel and enjoy all the fun events and festivals like the current one I am having a lot of fun playing pure Scareclaw. Also on Masterduel worlds just being better I agree. I love the animations and visuals and I also love you can watch all the games in masterduel where as in worlds TCG I am pretty sure you can only watch like 1 feature match a round? I prefer seeing all the best players of yugioh playing against each other.

[@AKASyx]

Being an MtG player primarily, there are 2 major things that I think MD needs: a Bo3 format and earning rewards for just playing. Feels bad games decrease when you have the ability to side against top meta decks. Players should not be forced to play ranked to get rewards, and further, they should not be punished for conceding. One of the most sacred things in magic is the ability to concede for any reason or no reason at all. In MD it sucks knowing you've lost but needing to sit while your opp kills you so you can get your game actions to actually count.

[@prosketch95]

Not having to deal with the smell of a local event is also a positive

[@Randomperson-pv6lz]

If they did a little more effort with master duel. It would've been the perfect place to play and enjoy Yu-Gi-Oh. It has so much potential

[@jadajp1782]

I read slowly. So what i do often is ask my opponent for the sparknotes on their card. For example: simoon would be "i banish 1 from hand for cost then search black whirlwind. And then i can normal summon it with no tribute after if i want. And it dark locks me and i take 1k in end phase". Cuz that is always faster than me reading it all.

[@f687sNFM]

It's telling when the RC car hobby, a hobby where RC cars are literally hundreds of dollars to buy, is more affordable than Yu-Gi-Oh TCG. I only quit MD cuz of Maxx c, if they ban it I'll come back

[@LS-qs9ju]

Beyblade is now the hype in my area, and it cost a single OCG AE Fuwalos for one beyblade (or entire beyblade meta set for a single TCG Fuwalos) The funny thing about people saying OCG Yugioh is better is that OCG is still so damn expensive compared to meta OCG Pokemon deck.

[@f687sNFM]

@@LS-qs9ju so what you get, an arrma big rock 3s battery combo, or 3 malcummies?

[@solxakinrivera8651]

NA hasn’t had a challenger cup in such a long time, I think it’s time for NA to get one

[@gigamilk6981]

Paul has the best pause faces lmaoooo

[@lit_wick]

Watching tcg events has a very similar look to what we had back in 200whatever. Watching master duel events just feels modern

[@arglebargle5531]

I find the whole "my YGO friends and I got together outside of a YCS and didn't play YGO" part of this to be confusing. I'm an MTG player, if I get together with my other friends who play MTG then we're probably going to play MTG... because we enjoy the game? Is it just that YGO can't be played casually or something? Team APS gave me the impression that casual kitchen table YGO is a thing but maybe that's not the case?

[@arkanamaster4961]

I feel a lot of yugioh players don’t know how to play fun casual anime decks as it’s so much fun to play casual yugioh. The decks might be ass but if you love the deck, it’s fun.

[@ToddLawrence23]

That's the problem, in pokemon you get a battle deck and you have your fun for a few bucks, in yugioh you spend above 100 usd to have a casual deck.

[@mars99]

Stop, Skip 2:30, 2:40 4:57, 5:16 5:30, 6:16, 6:25, 6:32 6:40, 7:17 7:25, 7:34 7:55, 8:25 9:50, 10:01 10:12, 10:22 10:33, 11:05 11:30, 11:43 12:00, 12:20 12:45, 13:20 14:58, 15:15 15:33, 15:45 16:15, 16:23 17:15, 17:24 18:38, 18:50 19:23, 20:22 20:53, 21:17 21:44, 22:03 22:39, 25:30 26:06, 27:17 27:23, 27:59 29:22, 29:31 31:45, 33:00 33:15, 34:43 34:57, 35:25 36:25 TLDR; TCG too expensive and time consuming, sit on chair in front of laptop play card game free is easier

[@easyygo3008]

Internet ygo community isn't irl ygo community. In internet all you find are rants from people that don't buy products or the game at all. They try to find any opportunity to say "game us dying because i can't buy the cards" in desperate hope the game is affordable to them eventually. But this isn't how the game works at all. Gane us still selling well and the #2 tcg after pokemon around the world. Seeing how rota sold very well is actually a sign game is actually doing well. People that plays master duel but not physical is the old edo pro and dueling network crowd: unpaying customers

[@HapsterHap]

Just went to a case tourney today at locals and we literally capped on participation.

[@AlberichY]

If they update the card pool, they can even make 3 ranked, one with TCG, OCG and MD formats. TCG and OCG can go with reduced rewards and people will still play them.

[@mystZER0]

My crack at hope harbinger ruling. If hope harbinger didn't active it's negate yet, it will attach fenrir when fenrir active's it's banish effect on attack declaration. If hope's negate been used already and fenrir is attacking a different card but also active it's banishment effect on attack decoration, hope harbinger can change attack targets as a chain-link 2 and make fenrir miss-time due to it's attack variant being a "when" effect. but if the fenrir player is actually smart and hope harbinger happens to be in defense position or fenrir player actives a book of moon on hope harbinger as a chain-link 2, fenrir player will lose 100 LP but be able to active fenrir's effect after the battle.

[@coyot7959]

fenrir attacks anything, harbinger redirects, proceed to damage calc fenrir gets destroyed than a card is banished on harbinger's field

[@Some._.Random._.Person]

For the tcg side that’s they could set up the game play in MD digitally so they can watch it that way. It won’t be live live but it’s an option

[@AchilloTheStalker]

The second we get different formats online, master duel will take over officially

[@aka_Ingmar]

The best way to learn yugioh is not either suggestion. It's simply just playing with your friends and having fun. You see if you have an interest, then you do the MD stuff, or look at content creators. But have fun with your friends

[@Draciosama]

My homie and I haven't played yugioh in literal years. I stopped playing around when xyz monsters came out and he stopped caring around when GX CAME OUT. I finally decided to bite the bullet, and play master duel because a different friend told me I could essentially make any one deck fairly easily. 2 days later I had the basic version of my current main deck, and convinced my homie to join just to get me the campaign rewards, but he decided to build Trains on recommendation and we've been playing ever since.

[@hibari1026]

I don't have any friends who's interested in playing ygo, the nearest locals from where I live is 2 hrs and 30 mins just to get there and another 2 hrs and 30 mins to get back to my home. Master duel is a blessing for me when it came out.

[@IanDavid01]

In my hometown there is no local to play yu-gi-oh because almost nobody play it. Even when we play the card when we're kid, we didn't play it correctly and only have it because the anime looks cool. Im so thankful for MD because i can play it for free and easy to follow because MD give pretty much every basic how to play and the structure deck for newbies is not bad that even yu-gi-oh fosil like me can follow it quite easily

[@markdeth9130]

Completely agree on convenience being a massive advantage for Master Duel. TCG format is a lot better imo but pricing makes the gameplay at the higher level way too exclusive.

[@elemomnialpha]

The logical answer as to why MD is it's own thing is servers, if they made it follow specific regions they'd need to separate the servers between TCG and OCG so they couldn't duel each other

[@bullet4myex187]

I think MD is much better than tcg for me at the moment. I got back into the game when MD first came out, both MD and the tcg. I slowly realized that I started to go more and more over to MD. I can play from anywhere including home, on break at work, the doctors office, ect. I also don’t have to travel or spend a crap ton of money I don’t have, which is great because I have 3 small children and everything I have goes to taking care of them. I can play any deck I want for free as long as I’m not going crazy on making cards, I only spend money on rare occasions if I feel like it. The difference really is night and day especially when the cost of decks along with time for travel is taken into account. Plus I can still play on a more competitive level while also being able to put it down at any time to deal with my kids/life. All in all it’s just much better and I’ve even sold most of my tcg cards so that I have the money I need in normal life, it just wasn’t worth holding onto them anymore when I realized I only play virtually anymore.

[@johnknowles1891]

The tcg definitely needs to start adding a code card like pokemon does for some bonus in master duel. Would help bring the distance between thr two and help people who play master duel but still collect irl cards

[@ZackeroniAndCheese]

33:30 i am glad that Master Duel is different than real life. Magic Arena has done so much to decrease paper play in Magic since you can just play the paper format online instantly. Ealier in the video Farfa talked about how much more convenient Master Duel is. Being it's own format gives reasons for players to leave and try TCG for a new, different gameplay experience

[@myrddraal5331]

Even if you dont know what you're doing with your gems you get them so often you can basically build any deck you want somewhat regularly. For free.

[@TheNEPTY]

Farfa doesn’t realize that those are gangsters paradise lyrics but he’s old enough to… 😂

[@mrbubbles6468]

‘I think the Yu-Gi-Oh us a better card game than all the others’ You guys have a funny way of showing it.

[@mhead1117]

Explain

[@valornetwork508]

personally living in florida ive seen less card shops sell yugioh cards and if they do they sell the boxes for 50$ cause they done sell compared to one piece, magic, digimon, and lorcana like those game alre almost always sold out of recent product while yugioh product is on sale just to get it to be sold.

[@Metaknight145]

Okay to be fair to the content creators telling people to stop playing. That's kind of the only way to improve the game. To drive enough people away so that Konami starts losing money and is forced to make some changes.

[@YGOHermit]

they should also do best of 1 in TCG. Game is too far gone to play 3 games in 45 mins

[@jeanriviere2599]

>Is Master Duel killing a format killing itself with overpriced cards, bullshit banlists and people on locals and other events that are, hum, not the best ? Truly a question of all time. Truly a question of all time.

[@RiverHawthorn-i4j]

I really hope they add a tournament mode to Master Duel soon.

[@Synactive]

NGL md worlds went better imo bc of the gimmicks of the worlds format and the team gimmick, I think that was awesome and I’d love to see more stuff like it, made it so much cooler, and the animations and visuals do help but I think the gp of worlds was really cool and wish we could play a format like that in game as well

[@inazumatan7050]

14:03 This is an extremely valid statement but I don’t think it’s possible for YGO or any other card game for that matter to undercut Pokémon’s prices.

[@TheKeksmuzh]

I hadn’t touched Yugioh in ~20 years. While the learning curve was steep, MD was a practical way to try out the modern game and make decks for fun archetypes rather than worrying about competitiveness or tournament access. IDGAF if I never hit the top of the ladder playing Sky Strikers or Suships.

[@bigl56]

only change i would make to master duel worlds. make it so a player has to play with their backup deck before playing their main deck a 2nd game

[@Malao558]

I played paper Yugioh for a very short period, and came back after Master Duel got released, and I would never go back for the simple reason that everything is so convoluted in this fuckin game. I don't have to worry about whether I'm resolving my own cards correctly, whether my opponent is doing the same, or whether either of us would be able to tell the difference. As much as we make jokes about the people who just press the flashing buttons, those flashing buttons are shortcuts to highlighted portions of the paragraphs of effect text that tell you what the fuck you can actually do. I had cards in my deck that I was playing for months in paper that had effects that neither I nor my opponents were aware of that I only realized existed after I fucked up the combo in a sim.

[@Synactive]

the pricing of MD is JUST better, if the TCG was just reasonably priced like it is in the OCG I would play it, it’s that simple

[@mrbubbles6468]

Farfa: GUYS! I TOUCHED GRASS!

[@lit_wick]

I have wanted to buy an S:P Little Knight, realized that a single copy of the card was $100, built my first commander deck for $50 shipped instead. I still use that deck for when the pod wants to play a lower powered game.

[@traigongames]

36:04 for me it's so much that I haven't played the TCG since 2011 and I'm not really behind it cause I always kept up with it but I can't see myself playing the TCG anymore but I'll more than happily collect the cards

[@N3XTREVOLUTION]

Master duel: "you will own nothing physical and you will like it"

[@spicymemes7458]

Konami "look all we are saying is this card is worth $200 today"

[@ecthelionv2]

I don’t have to shill $1000’s for a deck is one thing. And that I don’t have to deal with OCG format that (which is played in my region) that only uses JP, KOR, or CN cards.

[@ArzneiPrediger]

Havent spent a cent on ygo over the last year and sticked to MD. Saved up some gems from the events and build two meta decks 4 free. I wonder how much longer tcg prizing is sustainable.

[@samuelllakaj5439]

I see TCG as just a format, and I love playing it on Duelingnexus. Just as I love playing Edison and other formats. Maybe more people would rather spend money on UR dust than actual cards and that's their call. If I had locals I'd be all over paper TCG.

[@kenndogGaming]

It’s just more entertaining than watching long boring duels in person no offense to those players but it looks better and the summon effects even the field destruction is nice

[@dewanegara8333]

If it is true, i hope so. That way the tcg can start to implant, at least, AE rarity distribution