Farm or Buy? Cenarion Circle rep - A practical guide - WoW Classic

[@DaintreeRogue]

*UPDATE* * Check out this vid for some sweet AQ20 loot: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYGnhoandp2og8k * Best case scenario @ 3k rep and hitting raiding EVERY lockout (3 days) is about 1.5 months * You can also get CC rep from from killing bosses (not trash) in AQ40. 150 on kill (500 on C'thun) and 100 via the Qiraji Lord's Insignia (thanks Ilsmat!). Except you should save the Insignias until Friendly Brood of Nozdormu. * Flamereavers, found in the cave in the north of Silithus, give rep up until Revered (there aren't many of them though, and they hurt!). Thanks Snikeduden! * Remember, if you plan to do any farming at all, you should try to save your texts until Honored. Thanks Chuby123!

[@dqptran]

I thought aq20 was cc rep and aq40 was brood rep?

[@DaintreeRogue]

@@dqptran Yup, but the bosses in AQ40 give CC as well as Brood. 150 per boss, and another 100 from the Insignia that they drop - but you don't want to spend the Insignia until Friendly Brood.

[@RocoPwnage]

I wish every WoW guide was this quick and to the point

[@DBSE2008]

I think your math on the time it takes to get exalted from just AQ20 is off, it's a 3 day reset (not a 7 day reset), so at 2k per run its 21 resets ~63 days and at 3k per run its 14 resets or 42 days.

[@DaintreeRogue]

Thank you, good point. I made the assumption most people would just raid once per week, but totally didn't make that clear, haha. Have added a note to pinned comment :)

[@slugonion]

Yours is my favorite wow channel since discovering you a few weeks ago! Great quality videos with very relevant and insightful info. Thanks for your work!

[@DaintreeRogue]

Thanks so much! It's awesome comments like yours that make it totally worthwhile :)

[@Lidond]

You also get 1100 rep per aq40 turning in all the idols u get from each boss

[@DaintreeRogue]

Awesome thanks - yeah, if you get everything down, haha. The bosses themselves also give a bit of rep too.

[@HiIThinkImReal]

Here's my question: I'm ~200 from Friendly with the Cenarion Circle. I haven't touched a single quest in the Cenarion Hold, which I believe reward reputation. Should I grind to Honored and then do the quests once the mobs no longer grant reputation?

[@DaintreeRogue]

Ideally, yes it will be better to hold off doing the quests. Although, if you are an enchanter for eg, you miss out on getting a few enchants sooner. Also, if you get any quest pieces from AQ20, you might not have the rep required for hand in. But, getting to Exalted will be easier in the long run!

[@HiIThinkImReal]

Daintree Rogue Yeah, I ran AQ20 last night and won the hilt for the Dagger, but I need to be Exalted. No problem, just something to work towards-thanks for the advice!

[@DaintreeRogue]

Nice! Yeah I am thinking of going for the 3pc. Haven’t snagged any pieces yet though

[@snikeduden2850]

There are some mobs inside the cave in the north that continues to give rep past honored (flame-something). They hurt quite a lot as a melee though.

[@DaintreeRogue]

True, the Flamereavers. They are nasty as! Thanks for the help - have added it to the pinned comment.

[@Jotunheimr]

Question.. If you have 20man raid only looking for rep farm.. Can't they just go AQ20 and clear trash without engaging boss - that way they dont get lockout. Clear trash -> Out reset. do it again?

[@hblax0]

Thx for crunching the numbers 🙏🏽

[@DaintreeRogue]

Oh we like the numbers, very much ;)

[@asmandria96]

Well, you can also make some good money and grind rep if you summon Dukes and Royals. Duke's BOE sell good in ah (in my server anywhere from 30 to 100g) and you can make people bid on Lord's BOP items. If you get lucky people can bid over 300g for an item, plus when you summon 3 lords you can turn in the scepters for a box with around 100g and some great (and expensive) potions. All of this is assuming you buy the twilight sets and summon the templars, then dukes then lords. In my server at least you can buy the full set for 2 to 2.5g

[@DaintreeRogue]

That is a great idea - a Silithus summon gkp run. And great note about the Chest of Spoils. Might have to organise a raid and give it a try to see how profitable it is. Thanks!

[@asmandria96]

@@DaintreeRogue It is very rng dependant, if you get good drops you are golden, but you can have shitty ones too. Make sure to fill up your raid when you are summoning the lords. The more people, the more likely it is that somebody will want to bid on an item and prices will get higher

[@luckyhands4995]

I finished my guardian of cenarius by gathering twilight texts in sithis,sites, took only about 3 weeks of casual grinding,it wasn't that bad

[@DaintreeRogue]

Nice! Yeah text prices have gone up as well so farming is back on the cards. What class/spec are you?

[@luckyhands4995]

@@DaintreeRogue druid,nelf

[@alexedingfield5222]

A beautiful analytical video I hope you continue making classic content. The prophet drops 7-10 pages. Also I think you need to consider the gold made from summoning. Sets into crests into signets and those boe pants and essences

[@DaintreeRogue]

Ah thank you - will do :) Yeah, someone else pointed that out - even more so if you make it a gkp raid.

[@robertp457]

I'm just going to raid instead. I'll be running AQ20 on every reset anyway might as well use my raid time to do two things at once rather than one.

[@DaintreeRogue]

Nice! Yeah I'd like to hit it every lockout but can't see it happening. Although I do have a few alts now, haha...

[@rachelblack1864]

Great vid with helpful info as always.

[@derasnan]

Greatly helpful vid - thanks man!

[@DaintreeRogue]

Excellent - glad it was of use. Thanks for the feedback!

[@RoopeRahkonen]

Atleast at the start lot of people will be raiding aq20 every lockout since you need all 3 of your class books from there which will propably be very high price at start

[@DaintreeRogue]

I keep forgetting about the books! Good point

[@Justaguyyoutubin]

What if texts are 35g each...? The state of Classic 3 years later.

[@Sanoskesagara]

You're forgetting about aq40! "Qiraji Lord's Insignia" drops off of every boss you kill in aq40, and each can be turned in for 250 cc rep each. With 11 bosses per raid, that's another 2,750 rep available to you per week! Just gotta get out there and earn it ;)

[@DaintreeRogue]

That's a really good point, ty. I was a little unsure about how tough AQ40 will be for the average guild, or if Blizz might make some changes to make fights harder/longer. Then how to factor in how many bosses you might clear each week - surely it will take most guilds a while to get Twins/C'Thun down? In any case, have added your note to a pinned comment - thanks :)

[@Chuby123]

Best way for most people: Farm to honored, DON'T do any quests in Silithus and DONT hand in any crests or texts. Just hold on to them. Once honored hand everything in, do ALL the quests in Silithus and simply do AQ20 until Revered or Exalted.

[@trunks41061]

Almost correct BUT better wait with the Texts till you hit Revered. You no longer will get Rep for Summoning those Dukes (only for the HUGE Stones!).

[@DaintreeRogue]

Yup totally agree. I mentioned this right at the end, but might have been too late for some people - will add it to the pinned comment. Cheers :)

[@DaintreeRogue]

@@trunks41061 Hmmm, good point... feels like that would be a pretty long grind though!

[@doctoronishispsychosislab1474]

you didnt even mention rep from quests. the ones i just did were super easy super fast and gave me 250 rep for 2 hand ins. Kill 10 geo lords/ go to cave slay dude

[@Septimusclassic]

Ended up buying revered with texts alone, set me back 5.2k gold.. atleast i didnt have to farm in silithus :D #pocketchange as a mage anyway

[@DaintreeRogue]

Yeah I feel like such a chump for not levelling a mage first - the opportunity cost! 5.2k is a bit more than I’d pay, I think... but then if my mage was 60 it wouldn’t matter so much, ha

[@Septimusclassic]

@@DaintreeRogue yeah, i probably should have mixed it up between aq20 and buying texts tho, but my guild is kinda tryhard so i just went for it

[@itzFenners]

Damn how did you accumulate that? I've got a mage but can't stomach farming for hours in DM:E etc

[@aadas4007]

The video is nice but the formula itself is pretty terrible because it doesn't actually consider any other loot you get while farming in silithus. Your example makes farming rep seem like a 68g/h farm because you only consider the gold. Someone getting 80g/h elsewhere might think "ok, I'm better of just farming gold and buying everything" but that may very well be wrong since during your silithus farm you can also expect greens etc. that may very well itself be a 25g/h farm that could be used for additional rep resulting in a 93g/h farm, making it the better choice.

[@DaintreeRogue]

Yeah, this is a fair point and I do mention it towards the end, but we didn't see anything near 25g/h in the 5 hours we spent testing for this vid... so someone making 80g would probably still be making the right choice at that price. In the end we thought including this - or any of the other variables that we could have factored in - added more complexity than was worth it for something meant to be a rough rule of thumb. So we kept the formula simple and called it out as an additional consideration instead.

[@youtoobz146]

As usually, fantastic video -Mcmini

[@DaintreeRogue]

Legend, thanks man! Going to come and pester you on discord today if you are about :)

[@chargindave70]

I solo grinded the mobs until honored. and sold everything on the ah. made a fortune lol

[@DaintreeRogue]

Haha nice. Good idea

[@eyefixstuff]

Good content. But your math is wrong on getting exalted just by raiding. AQ 20 is a 3 day reset. Your math would be correct if it were only once per week.

[@DaintreeRogue]

Thank you! Yeah, I kinda (secretly) made the assumption most people would only manage to get in once per week - have added a note to pinned comment so hopefully others will see.

[@zsoltvarga5358]

its too late i think to expect you buy the text AH on my server 2g+/ea i beat exalted 2 weeks ago but i start the buy txt THE begginig becouse lots ppl dont know what is it so i buy bundle txt less 1g :) i spend 4 k gold i beat exalted its worth ! if you have a mage just do some SM boost 8g/reset (cath+arm ) 160g/h

[@DaintreeRogue]

Oh that is interesting! The price on our server jumps about a bit, but I have seen the price slowly dropping and it's not too hard to get texts @ 1.5g atm. I wonder if it is going to go back up, or continue going down? I think I prefer farming gold anyway, so yeah, I'm happy with that :)

[@a1175779]

Dude sounds like he' narrating an internal training video for a company

[@DaintreeRogue]

Thanks - exactly what we’re going for!

[@siuisi]

So where you got this idea of getting under 3k rep per raid? You get also rep from aq40 so why you didn't include this? I asked veteran private server players about this rep grind and they said that it takes about 3 weeks by only doing raids...

[@DaintreeRogue]

Well your private server buddies are plain wrong. Assuming you kill every AQ40 boss on lockout, and assuming you can manage 3k rep in AQ20 (no skipping bosses), it will take 36 days of purely raiding. So that’s just over 5 weeks, meaning their estimates are out by a whopping 60%. My ideas are my own and are based off my personal experience in vanilla.

[@waoua6665]

twilight prophet give me only 6 text this morning

[@DaintreeRogue]

Yeah I made a mistake - I believe it is a chance for 6-10. Thanks for the update!

[@MMXLIVE15]

Human dagger rogue 😂🤣😂🤣

[@DaintreeRogue]

Yeah I really wanted to go dwarf but went Human bc that’s what I was in Vanilla - you know, nostalgia and all that. Aged Core means the racial bonus is overkill anyway :p

[@Subdual1337]

Daintree Rogue Daggers are bis each face, obviously a green parser wanting to make a comment.

[@MMXLIVE15]

Goliathe sorry to make you look more stupid than you are but there is no reason to be human dagger rogue because they get weapon skill to swords.

[@MMXLIVE15]

Goliathe also swords are still better dps without deaths sting but I’m the green parser. Also phase not face

[@frantsel5711]

Thank god the hunterset is bullshit. So i only want revered..

[@tebor2152]

Yeah.... I farmed it... dont recommend.

[@DaintreeRogue]

Haha, fair enough. I farmed a decent amount in vanilla but yeah, this time around I’m buying as much as I can. How far did you make it?

[@tebor2152]

@@DaintreeRogue 17000/21000 so far

[@DaintreeRogue]

Large. One AQ20 and 40 might get you there! Envious of your rep, but not how you got there, ha

[@tebor2152]

@@DaintreeRogue yeah I learned that grinding past honored isnt worth it.