"Farmers Use Too Much Water!"

[@teenagefarmer]

it's sad to see how much of a disconnect there is between people and where there food comes from. keep up the good work Trevor.

[@robcooper5813]

Well said on irrigation and use of water. Big problem here in Australia. Taking irrigation water for the "environment".

[@dalesuhre6522]

Same thing here in California.

[@retrodad6864]

Trevor you’re explanation of water useage was spot on and also about the people who do the complaining. Like here we get city folk moving to the country then they start complaining that the cockerels make a noise in the morning or that the church bells keep them awake on Sunday mornings. Idiots. Thanks for posting. 🇬🇧👍👍👍

[@oilhammer04]

My hat is off to your family for farming in the desert and making good use of water.

[@113redneckcircus]

Well said excellent job saying the truth

[@SPR-777]

Well explained. Makes total sense. Interesting video

[@Ree33ee]

Trevor, I’m on the opposite side of the valley as you and I’m deeply saddened to see our state being overrun. Farming is dying, the Ellsworth family (arguably why the SEV is here) sold their farm and it’s becoming houses on houses. I love our state but I fear the time to move is coming.

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

So sad.

[@larryburwell7775]

Don’t you just love it when people move into your area and the first thing they do is start telling you how to do your job when you’ve been doing it for more than a 100 years

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

Exactly!! And literally 100 years.

[@rolando7660]

I’ve noticed that it’s not just computer chip factories taking over the land and water. What used to be farmland on the 303 north of I-10 is turning into nothing but huge distribution warehouses and some new neighborhoods. Pretty soon, there won’t be any lane left to farm out there and people will still wonder why there’s a water shortage.

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

The 303 makes me so sad. That is beautiful farm ground.

[@Sassy78]

Thank God for farmers!

[@FarmingInsider]

Trevor you talked about your region being extremely productive per acre. Would you mind sharing some numbers of total tonnage on say a good field of alfalfa or so? Just for comparison (natural rainfall here in Ohio lol) we are pretty happy with 4.5-6 ton (very productive ground) over 3-4 cuttings.

[@FarmingInsider]

Also, did I hear you say you'll rip up old alfalfa and plant a new stand in 2 weeks? Does your soil not experience the autotoxicity?

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

Yeah! I wish I knew more about corn and wheat, I can ask around. But for alfalfa you see 10 ton to 13 ton average, what makes the difference is the soil or water quality. Or a year like this where we miss 3 cuttings due to rain. Cotton does well here too. 4 bales per acre is very common. Some guys will get 5 on good soil.

[@patrickaherne3598]

@@BalesHayFarmandRanch Most of the hay I see getting trucked into Northern CA comes from Nevada, in the desert. The alfalfa grows better out in the desert. There's big rotators out there and the combination of the sun and climate is amazing.

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

@@patrickaherne3598 exactly!!

[@griffoutdoortv5882]

it blows my mind the ignorance when it comes to farming

[@dannyharvey5623]

What slope do you run on your fields. Lot of people in se nm using side roll and pivots but some still use established flood ground. Looking at putting some 30+ yr old ground back in and liked the way yours was watering watching drone fly. Looks very efficient!!!

[@colemartin9077]

there was a study done I forget where but they went into the city and asked random people on the street where their food came from and they said places like wal mart king supers Albertsons so thay tells you city folk has no clue where food comes from. keep up the good work Trevor! 👏

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

It’s so sad. Thanks schools.

[@DoubleD.]

Thanks for the in-depth explanation of what keeps you afloat these days.

[@hunttraining191]

Why is there not more pivots in your area. In southern Idaho everything has switched because of water efficiency.

[@anadiaboshoff195]

Hi. What is your % of slope over the length of your field.

[@andymac6679]

We went to a water resource conference at the UA to discuss ranching and multiple water use. We asked the group if they could think of a more productive use of a limited resource of water than to grow the very food that fills their belly. They talked about golf courses and housing needs and car washes etc. That is a sure sign that the city folks have no idea about the true source of the food they consume, the clothes they wear and in our case the protein they consume. They dont understand that when much of the country is under a foot of snow, that AZ is growing the majority of their salad plate among many other things. As housing consumes the usable farm ground, they are building on the very ground that used to feed them. On our 90K acres we provide over 70 year round water sources to wildlife that would not have them without agriculture. The general public is very ignorant and unfortunately spoiled on the ease at which they fill their refrigerator yet quick to complaint about those that spend their lives growing their food. What a world. Sorry Trevor, I got a bit off track. Good work.

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

Especially CA. CA produces a massive amount of everything!

[@mrbig4819]

As a farmer in michigan i find it interesting that we have to use a center pivot irrigation with big pumps as our land it not flat and we have big hills. all you have to do it open valve/tube and let it run.

[@bertrutledge4546]

What is the drop from inlet to outlet, how many inches?

[@peterwoollard288]

Pretty good fall in the bays The tail water is not running back up the next bay What sort fall do you aim for in each bay....l know their all different

[@georgeyandell323]

How long does it take for the water to go from one end of the field to the other?

[@FuelMan]

Have you ever thought of using a low impact soil perforation tool after a few cuttings then watering to help reinvigorate the roots and cut compaction issues.

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

We’ve ran them in the past. Our soil takes water very well. You can’t see a difference after running that type of implement

[@FuelMan]

@@BalesHayFarmandRanch thank you for the response. I know some of the no-till farmers around here use them in the fall

[@FuelMan]

@@BalesHayFarmandRanch keep up up the the fight the fight you deserve your damn water. Farmers first......

[@mostafahassani1929]

What is the earth's tilt ratio

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

7

[@cfnevada]

Can you rip and replant Alfalfa in 2 weeks? Does auto toxicity affect the replant or do you use a different seed?

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

Not toxicity issues

[@neilstammers8366]

what price are you paying per acre foot....?

[@wiredperformance6130]

Far as I know farmers are required. Computer chips are not. Glad you pointed out the obvious! Hopefully this doesn’t get to be a problem!👍🏻!

[@southtexashay777]

Its a shame Trevor but what you said its the truth. The Irrigation district cut our Irrigation water in the lower Rio Grande Valley, Texas. We own and lease out a bit over 1000 acres of irrigated improved pastures and farm land. And like you we have been farming for years before cities came to us. And now they cut our water off, the water district told us that they have to supply the municipality first. Its coming friend, good luck, I sure hope they can find food once they cut more water and stop farmers and Ranching from producing food!!!.

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

A good friend of mine uses sub surface drip irrigation. He says he uses the same amount of water I do. He he better yields. But uses the same amount.

[@southtexashay777]

@@BalesHayFarmandRanch along of the farming community use drip on greens, onions Etc. Does here. Lots of citrus guys also.

[@leepehl1003]

Well said

[@dieselalltheway464]

Good video, but I’ve been wondering this but why do you do small square bales instead of large square bales or round bales

[@troyb6128]

Horse people like 95-100 lb bales we are not set up for large bales

[@dieselalltheway464]

@@troyb6128 thank you, i thought maybe people wanted smaller bales but i wasnt for sure

[@barrynelson634]

When us snowbirds come down there we can only handle small squares to feed our steeds as we don't bring any equipment with us to handle rounds or large squares. LOL Evidently the simulator didn't take that into account :-))))

[@dieselalltheway464]

@@barrynelson634 haha i didnt, but thanks for telling me, but i hope to be doing it in real life in at least 2 years

[@spideybrent]

Hello from Saskatchewan

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

Hi!!!

[@lmsrich]

I dont think there is a more efficient use of water than your irrigation system. People choose to be dumb by not looking for the bigger picture. Agriculture keeps those same dumb people alive. Keep doing what you are doing with these videos!

[@jeffcrivelli2906]

Pre 1900… 75-80% of the population was involved with farming. 1920’s … Down to 60 % 1960’s… Down to 30% Today…. Less than 2% of our population are involved in agriculture! And that number is shrinking! Average age of a farmer… 60 years old! My numbers may be off a little, but not much. God Bless everyone who goes out, rain or shine, hot or freezing, day or night, to keep us fed!

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

It’s crazy isn’t it!! I bet your numbers are close.

[@tugboat2739]

Good video

[@bobstratton6362]

I grew up on a commercial poultry farm and worked in the industry for 30 years. Then in fermented foods industry for 10 years. Heard the same people. People would go nuts when they understood I worked in a slaughter plant. I would tell them, you mean to tell me you never thought about a chicken dying when took your snot nose little critters through the drive through for chicken nuggets?

[@ajskab99]

Why not switch to subsurface irrigation? Your irrigation gallons will be lower than when you do surface irrigation.

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

Thats what a lot of people think. Unfortunately it’s not always the case. I know many subsurface farmers. They are using just as much water.

[@ajskab99]

@@BalesHayFarmandRanch but they’re retaining their water in the soil instead of running it into the next irrigation ditch. I won’t be surprised if “they” don’t make you surface irrigators switch to drip or subsurface.

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

@@ajskab99 but that’s what’s great, our water goes to the next farmer. It all gets used.

[@paulreed6340]

Damn city folk

[@stephenbradbury460]

Hi if you have time have a look at Cuby Station in Australia it's one of the largest irrigation farms in Australia they grow cotton. I just think you might be interested in looking at it. I hope to set up a hay business growing Alfa we call it Lucerne in 2023/24. This will be dry land Alfa / Lucerne. Love your KZbin program

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

I’ll have to check it out!! Thank you.

[@billseitzer4333]

Very good ropic today you are right just stop eating

[@SlipShodBob]

I think I'd rather move to Alaska for the weather than Arizona (I have the body that more layers of clothes is a good thing than shedding them) plus no venomous snakes

[@johnnylawson69]

I'm pretty sure the government pays farmers to level their fields, in Nebraska. It was in National Geographic years ago

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

I wish they did that here. There are grants for irrigation systems, but it’s still very costly.

[@suave47]

Ppl unfortunately just don't understand. They read an article on Facebook that says we r running out of water and that's what they go by. They have no idea of the water cycle that goes on in this world. And they don't care to. In this day and age, if someone thinks they r right, they r right and b damned if u try to educate. Out of curiosity, how many times do u flood a field like that in that particular fields duration? I do believe I remember u saying that one field is only seeded once every 3 or 4 years. So is that 2 or 3 times per year, or 10 to 12 times per it's seeding to ripping it out and starting again??

[@timspicer3270]

😊

[@billybagdanoff8672]

I dont think many city folk know what an acre ft of water is..1 acre 1 ft under water is 325,900 gallons of water..

[@valleywaterfowl]

It’s funny how all these people complain about “farming in a desert”, when they’ve been doing it for 100’s of years. There was never a problem until the cities started developing and taking water from the water districts. Not to mention the thousands of acre feet going into the ocean to save a smelt that’s not even native to California. Lack of infrastructure, cities constantly developing, and people that have no farming experience complaining thinking they are important is the real issue.

[@troyb6128]

Swimming pool lawns homes do not return to the auqifer, ag water does. Pinal county wells are 700 ft plus. Going to cost me $100k just for the hole for my well as we lost CAP water as of Jan 2023.

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

What about the massive industrial buildings that use it for evaporated cooling? Not back into the ground. Not re using it.

[@troyb6128]

@@BalesHayFarmandRanch uea that slips my mind as I am not in an industrial area YET

[@stakman78]

Hey hey Trevor, Our Prime Minister J Adern is trying to cut farming all together in our country with her new friendships with Trudeau and biden etc, its so demoralizing to watch helplessly, is looking the other way the right thing,, hey who knows? But you've got that New dad glow for now so enjoy the now.. lol, good work mate, possibly give us a look at the what we call in New Zealand,, a 'Roll Seeder' just so the townies know what it is, I would look at a single bin 6 metre folding air seeder/roller unit, saves bridging and using a gravity bin, I have used most brands of them over the years, i wont rattle off any brand names as you can do your homework, I suggest going with the units with every 2nd ring perforated, little more disturbance for coverage, keep up the good work mate. 🇳🇿👍💪🇺🇸

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

It’s terrible!! I can’t believe a country would purposely get rid of its farmers. Similar to the gas situation. “Let’s stop making gas and buy it from our enemy”. Winter comes…. “Let’s stop growing our own food and buy it from our enemies”… the lesson will be difficult.

[@stakman78]

@@BalesHayFarmandRanch I know right, the latest in our country for us farmers is emissions tax, penalties for running equipment, she wants all combustion engines gone by 2030,, this whole electric vehicle deal may be good in some cities but will never work in Agriculture, we need good hard working folk to sit in seats running our countries! Not wealthy shady war mongers,. Joe Rogan for President. Just hoping I see my daughter sitting in the combines and choppers I've bought her up in, hope to meet ya one day mate, you really put things into perspective what you said,,. Always look forward to your vids.

[@eddygoodwin7089]

I think there’s more than one right answer to the water situation, conservation is an unfortunate reality we face in more than one state. I’m in Idaho and find myself looking at things a bit different than I used to with the drought.

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

Agreed.

[@ivancordero6471]

Okay is true that us farmer use water, but most of the time came from river or use water, we use it to re incorporate to the soilsystem. So the water go back to the land.

[@Ch_HayGrower]

would love to visit someday, and take that Fendt for a spin, looks soooo cool. your boys will be fine, Raise them to be farmers and they will find ways, we always do, it is depressing to see that city people are just getting dumber and dumber everyday.. Election is a very important thing in AG, at the moment Can, USA and Mex all don't have very bright leaders, they forget what's important, and throw useless stuff on the table..

[@yousfzdah9164]

سلام عليكم

[@James-iw8vg]

People in city’s complain how much water farmers use but they over water there grass just for a green lawn

[@dennisdixon6344]

Wait until the anti's get onboard with some endangered species, like they did here in the Klamath basin...same thing..districts & projects built before 1910 now being either severely cut back or shut off from irrigation water because of a fish that lives in our main reservoir that keeps declining in spite of the fact that the lake levels have been kept several feet above pre colonization levels & it hasn't helped the fish a bit...sad to look out & see a reservoir 30 miles long & 10 miles wide full of water & we can't irrigate our crops.!??

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

Uuugggg keep them away!!!

[@miguelguzman1407]

Still lot of water

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

Going back into the ground.

[@ronchappel4812]

Why do city people complain about your irrigation? Are you getting it cheaper than everyone else ?Is that why they're complaining?

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

There isn’t a lot of water.

[@yousfzdah9164]

كيم طول وكيم عورض المسح كيم تستغرق من ساعة في سقي

[@andrewp.619]

They’ll be using 4,000 ace ft of water per acre, and you’ll be using 7.5 acre feet of water per acre. Wow! Thats not anywhere comparable. You bad farmer! How wasteful?! 😆

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

Exactly. Our water goes back into the ground. Theirs evaporates.

[@jdjd962]

My kids dad family lost several properties to eminent domain for a computer chip manufacturer... one property had been in the family for 4 generations and probably more if not for this although it's sad I understand the need for the computer chips in today's world... also sad to see it so close to home... not to mention everyone trying to relocate last year when the housing market was crazy...

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

That blows my mind! “National security…”

[@jtn-minn8105]

Stop eating hahaha....When there tummy's are full they've got their nose's in everything and want to change everything....Hungary people only worry about one thing...The next meal.

[@devilschild]

I pray for Arizona that Kari Lake wins on election day.

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

Me too.

[@traderjoes8725]

This is no efficient use of water.

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

Really? Where is your proof? Is it better to be used in a evaporative cooling system in a warehouse? Our water is pumped from the ground and put right back on the ground. We’ve been doing it like this over 100 years on this exact farm.

[@traderjoes8725]

Industry and businesses also consume a lot of water. It doesn't make much sense in a very dry area either. That's right. But I don't know if it's so smart to flood the entire field in an area with heavy evaporation. These farming methods date back to a time when water had no value at all.

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

@@traderjoes8725 it doesn’t evaporate as much as you’d like to think. I can get you numbers. The district does studies every year. And you’re right. Water had little value. But guess who paid for the water infrastructure? The only way the SRP could work is from farmers paying for it. No one had a problem with farmers until the cities grew. But we are still very efficient. Take this number. I might have said this on the video. The acres this district covers 25,000 acres uses 140,000 acre foot of water that goes back into the soil per year. One microchip plant uses 40,000 acre foot a year, and that plant sits on 10 acres. And their water goes up into the air. 100% of it. I’m pretty sure microchips can be made anywhere. The quality of alfalfa we make, can only be made here.

[@traderjoes8725]

​@@BalesHayFarmandRanch I think it is much better to use water for agriculture than for golf resorts. Still, far too much good farmland is converted every year into, e.g., parking lots. No farmers, no food. That should be common sense.

[@Sc-jf3yk]

If you don't like the game don't play it or change the rules.

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

I’m not really sure what you’re saying. For either side? Both sides? This isn’t a game. This is the future of our countries feed.

[@Sc-jf3yk]

@@BalesHayFarmandRanch my grandfather told me when I started working 40 years ago for him. "I can replace you with anyone walking down the street". It pissed me off but he was right Everyone is replaceable

[@cliff4695]

All I'm saying is, you don't grow oranges in Minnesota. I'll never understand farmers that voluntary set up shop in dry arid regions, and than complain they are in a drought. That would be like a car painter setting up shop in the rain forest than complaining about the humidity. You rarely see corn in Canada, season isn't long enough. Used to really like this channel, now it's just complain complain complain.

[@613rob]

What part of Canada are you in? My area has tons of corn

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

You completely miss understood what I said. I would normally say I did a bad job. But all the other comments get it. So for once, it’s not me, it’s you. Good luck on your quest for finding another channel that doesn’t show its problems.

[@aussiek2000]

@cliff I wish there was a laugh react on youtube. A clown like you deserves it

[@troyb6128]

Some of the best hay in the entire country comes from Arizona. That's why

[@carolzippel5021]

I am in northern Ontario Canada and we have lots of corn. Pretty good to eat to.

[@cashking8056]

how long dose it take for the water to get to the other side of the field?

[@BalesHayFarmandRanch]

It depends on the size of the field.