Drydock: Javelin Class Destroyer | Star Citizen 4K

[@jodofe4879]

Looks like the perfect ship for box delivery missions

[@ManZer0]

The only game loop I would use it for

[@The_Real_bubbazaneti]

😂

[@CMDR_MURR]

I mean what else would you use it for?

[@AaronG1309]

@@CMDR_MURR Might be okay doing T1 bunker missions.

[@Rat_Poobrain]

Agreed. I also can't wait for the day when I can use my Idris for the Illegal Monitors Detected missions.

[@snaggletoof1927]

Loving the Drydock series. Thank you for the time and effort you put into your work, Farrister!

[@Farrister]

Really glad Snaggletoof, thanks for letting me know!

[@ThirsttyRecon]

Correction to the stats part: The remote turrets are QUAD s9s, not duals. So 4x each turret. You can even see it on the turret in the background, theres four weapons on the turret.

[@Farrister]

You may well be right - there have been some changes to those turrets over the years (if you look at the really old in-game shots, the guns look MASSIVE compared to how they are now). Either way, the turrets are likely going to deal big damage to anything slow enough to get caught in them!

[@Matt-eg1vz]

@@Farrister He IS correct, 8x S9 - and as well, the crew only needs to be 13 minimum to fully function as well.

[@Farrister]

@@Matt-eg1vz there are 13 manned turrets, plus 2 remote, plus pilot seat, plus torpedo station. Even before other multi crew roles, that's 16-17!

[@ronkrueger-capt_koron6112]

I really liked this review of the Javelin. It would make a great capitol ship for an Org fleet, and would be a great base of operations for a large group. Thank you for the great review my friend. Take care, fly safe, and I'll see you in the verse.

[@Farrister]

Thanks Koron, I'm so excited

[@Espresso7SC]

I got lost in a Carrack once. I can't imagine this thing.

[@Farrister]

I know, right?!

[@SCTimbal]

💯 please continue this series. Loving this!

[@Farrister]

Thank you, will do :)

[@CNC-Time-Lapse]

Great job covering the specs and lore. I love this ship. You and I will need to meet up in the verse and fly ours side by side one day. :-D The next big hurtle will be in crewing the ship. lol

[@Farrister]

Haha, thankfully I have a plan for mine!

[@CNC-Time-Lapse]

@@Farrister you’ve got a good dedicated SC following here on the channel. I’m sure you’ll have no problems building a great crew. I should start a Star Citizen YT channel and recruit people. :D

[@LandscaperUSC]

O yeah! 🎉 I’m looking forward to participating in org ‘raids’ with this ship as a centerpiece. Going to be epic! 😊(also, fantastic video @Farrister!)

[@Farrister]

Yeah!!!

[@anothergoogleuser]

Thanks for sharing, and your in depth analysis.

[@Farrister]

Glad you enjoyed, as ever :)

[@Roboticus_Prime_RC]

CIG needs to rethink their ship clarifications. Which are usually based on roles. The Javelin has all the operational roles of a cruiser.

[@Farrister]

That's what I thought too!!!

[@CaptainRumface]

Cant wait to get my hands on the Javelin... now I just need friends 😂😭

[@Farrister]

Haha

[@reamoinmcdonachadh9519]

I have the feeling that as far as Squadron 42 is concerned, this ship will be A.I. and NPC controlled, with player interaction limited to certain areas and certain limited game play scenarios.

[@Farrister]

Quite possibly

[@Nick-bk7es]

I was in a air fight with some players and a large group jumped straight into our Space, It obviously surprised both parties involved but nothing will ever compare to the first time I saw this Colossal Ship jump in, It became clear that these two large groups were gonna be fighting and right we were. You won't realize how small ships are to this thing until you see it's guns fire, by then there's no way to beat it.

[@DaPoets]

Well done 👍

[@ph11p3540]

Half of my org mates own some kind of very large capital ship. I decided to invest in collecting servicing and resource gathering ships so as to have resources to repair those capital ships.

[@Farrister]

I think they'll be pretty fun to crew, so if you have friends who have them, I think you might be in luck!

[@The_Real_bubbazaneti]

Beautiful ship!! But paying that crazy amount for pixels...oh well, if some people has cash coming out their butt, then i guess why not! Would be good if lets say a group or org could co invest in it, but for me it will never become a reality as a single person! But as always Far, Thanks for always your great and in depth analysis! Cheers!

[@Farrister]

Thanks, I think that was always how it was marketed: as a group ship.

[@arenomusic]

Ohhhh baby I love the drydock

[@Farrister]

I'm glad!

[@AIPilot-Boda]

The best military ship you can buy, or get for free with enough referrals.

[@Farrister]

Possibly, probably depending on your interpretation of best. But I love it!

[@duvelske]

The top hangar will be able to fit the redeemer. It was verified by cig after the release of the redeemer.

[@Farrister]

Originally they were designed to go together, I'm just not as sure whether that will remain so after both ships are fleshed out - time will tell, I suppose!

[@nilsgerdes6747]

I like the Javelin it it will be my favourite ship to never own! I would be at a loss with this. If I ever was offered a role on board the Javelin, i would crew the Galley! I would want to pilot that thing once and ever again 😂 I really like it

[@Farrister]

I may be in a position to offer you the head chef gig!

[@nilsgerdes6747]

@@Farrister Done! But I only work with goods from New Babbage! It's freezing temperatures will keep the food for longer. Also Bud's Growery on Euterpe (he sells cheap booze😁)

[@larrymitchell6470]

A Squadron 42 ship, meaning it will get LOTS of attention. While it costs $2700 - $3000..it will go up once in game AND probably has so many hundreds of many hours in it to build the asset, maybe tens of thousands of dollars in man hours to make.

[@That_vagabond98]

I wonder how many starfarer's it would take to refuel the ship?

[@Farrister]

I shudder to think!

[@medicsansgarantee]

Lord Humungus of SC

[@Farrister]

El Humongo

[@XMathiasxX]

The mass is 109 Million, not thousand, tons. As always tho amazing job with your video broski, really enjoyed.

[@Farrister]

Isn't it 109 million kilograms?

[@XMathiasxX]

@@Farrister Yep we both said it wrong lol

[@feeder117shindig9]

Id park this thing above rappel as a deterrent for dupers

[@onebagcement4175]

Hey, is there or will there be an option to assign chosen friends to take controle of the Ship while you are afk? Just so it doesnt despawn or smth. It would be a nice feature for large corporation to use it as a base of operation. I am new to Star Citizen and I still have to learn a lot.

[@Farrister]

I think the truth is we don't fully know yet.

[@HelminthCombos]

just wait one day when theres many many different large capital ships this and a large escort fleet will go an assault a large player made starbase.

[@Farrister]

Sounds awesome

[@rocky258258]

i liked it when u say "tough" daddy farrister

[@Farrister]

Wait until you get to the bit where I talk about the big cannons

[@evobsm2328]

​@@Farrister😂😂

[@Pr0t0typeSky]

So besides capital what kind of ships that aren’t in the game do you think should be what roles would they fill

[@PerfectlyNormalBeast]

I want a refinery/factory ship (capital size) Set up a workflow: widgetA requires 3 iron, 1 copper, 1 hadanite. WidgetB requires.... Something like that would be great for a mining/merchant team

[@Farrister]

The passenger and ship transporters look interesting to me :)

[@AW-po7jr]

Nice!

[@johnski4709]

I am starting to believe Farrister must own a Javelin as many videos on it he makes ;)

[@andyandreson3989]

He does.

[@Rat_Poobrain]

​@@andyandreson3989Pretty sure the only ship he's actually bought is the Ion.

[@Farrister]

I do! My absolute favourite ship, I'm so excited for multi-crew potential

[@LunaMoon0]

the funny thing is that if you buy the ship for real money you get it without weapons. that's what CIG said when the ship was first introduced. you have to do a few missions first to earn the weapons and then you have the right to buy the weapons. that will make so many people angry who have forgotten that XD

[@Haegemon]

Selling the most powerful military ship breaks the game, so they use this trick. Eventually if they want to balance the game, they will release a Batleship-class but that will be non-player, otherwise they aren't going to be able to make the 'system' to enforce order when it's necessary.

[@Xeonzs]

Even though it's so cool and sexy like the Idris, again I just don't fee like having to deal with that much crew, I feel like the Polaris (which is where I drew the line for myself, nothing bigger) can give me 95% of the javelin experience.

[@Farrister]

I think the Hammerhead is probably a better comparator, since both ships seem to be mostly turrets :D but for me, the appeal of the Javelin is the huge crew count - a big crew all on one ship is kinda exciting!

[@shawnc5188]

Same here, though I also caught the BMM craze..So my Polaris will be its escort.

[@DrewTeter]

I draw the line at the Perseus. Small enough to Solo with 2 blades slaving the remote turrets to the pilot and 2 NPC crew acting as engineer/support. Or take out the blades and stuff a snub fighter or two in the vehicle bay and you can also play with a larger group of friends. The polaris is large enough that it requires that group of friends without offering a path for solo play as well.

[@Xeonzs]

@@DrewTeter Yea the only reason I got the line is there is because that's where I'm at after the honeymoon phase with the game and buying stuff on the greymarket, they're ccu'd. If I hadn't done that I'd probably limited myself to like a 325a and andromeda lol.

[@andyandreson3989]

Some day maybe. We can dream.

[@Farrister]

And we shall!

[@Rafuschka]

Drydock? Isn`t every space harbor dry :D ?

[@Farrister]

Not when this ship so effectively whets your appetite...

[@Iplayforfood88]

I think CIG have u-turn stating it will come fully loaded.

[@Farrister]

Perhaps, ultimately time will tell

[@Iplayforfood88]

@@Farrister Yes perhaps Jav solo possible.

[@Farrister]

@@Iplayforfood88 I highly doubt that, and certainly hope not!

[@evobsm2328]

Am i the only one noticing the disturbing lack of point defence turrets on the bottom?

[@Farrister]

I don't know if I'd say disturbing. I count 5 turrets underneath (plus the big turret at the back, which probably isn't one you'd use for small targets lol), so there's firepower under there, with size 7 weapons. But I can imagine players swapping those out for maybe some ballistic gatling, or maybe flak or explosive rounds (yes please CIG!)? That said, it's notably weaker underneath than up top, and I think that's probably a gameplay design choice, rather than an Aegis Dynamics design choice. I still think and hope, this will be a tough nut to crack

[@evobsm2328]

@@Farrister what i mean is: the size 7's on top have the size 3 ballistic gatlings on top of the turrets. But i dont see any on the bottom at all. Only the size 7 lasers. I hope they at least slap 2 automated gatlings on the bottom. Beceause at this point the idris has the better overal coverage then the javelin. Oh and deffinitly. I think this will be the most tanky ship the game will have (for players, well besides the limited acces bengal they talked about for us to control but not own. But thats different)

[@ZombieWolf2113]

How do you get to this section, me and a friend want to see the ship but can’t find out how to get there

[@Haegemon]

During events like Invictus this kind of capital ships make an apperance and sometimes are docked to allow a visit tour. The Javelin interiors aren't yet completed so people who could see some interior is due to using a game glitch.

[@newtontravis9358]

but does it fit in my cutter XL?

[@Farrister]

Haha, I think not

[@TheWeejohn96]

I feel like you should be able to hire AI gunners, I think it will be close to impossible to have big fleet battles with these ships fully crewed

[@timothyhaynes-lz1we]

I like the Javelin is so good that it beats orther Syfy Ship's

[@Farrister]

My favourite ship!

[@niakitten2937]

So, why is this considered in-concept when they're basically a full interior by now?

[@Farrister]

Because we don't have it yet :(

[@niakitten2937]

@@Farrister So it's just them being dorks like usual. Gotcha. :D

[@rory-red]

Can't wait able walk aboard mine in game. Then I could roller blade threw its hallways.

[@Rhakin78]

SC Looks super cool, but i'll never understand why ships are being designed for multi crew groups instead of everyone getting their own. What in the world will 80 people do on that thing other than man turrets and pilot?

[@Farrister]

I think the 80 would be for NPCs, which includes crew rotation. There are 13 manned turrets, 2 remote turrets, potentially a torpedo gunner, pilot, captain to co-ordinate things, and maybe engineers to optimise and fix damage. I can see there being roles for 20 players, all working together

[@MrBam-gq2su]

Imagine this thing with LTI

[@Farrister]

Pretty sure it only has LTI!

[@reamoinmcdonachadh9519]

This is, IF it is ever released as a flyable, playable ship in Star Citizen (as opposed to whatever use it has in Squadron 42) a Teir 1 Org Ship, which even under NPC control can and does offer a playground for a lot of different game play scenarios and situations. This is what needs to be understood, because what this ship is NOT is a vessel for solo ownership (unless as a kudos trophy if you can afford it's Real Money price, whatever that will be) and solo operation.

[@Farrister]

Agree, this is something that I think many players will need to work together on - but that's exciting!

[@stanvandenadort4710]

what i dont understand about the naming of these spaceships is the ship classes used, a destroyer is the smallest kind of ship in a fleet, so this gigantic 480 meter javelin destroyer is only the smallest ship in the fleet? and then a friggatte is smaller than a real life friggatte, which was supposed to be a bit smaller than a battleship like a battlecruiser? most of these naming conventions do not make any sense at all. it seems like the name destroyer is just used because it sounds cool more than anything.

[@Farrister]

I think that's generally true, although I would say the usual size order is corvette > frigate > destroyer > cruiser > battlecruiser > battleship

[@lazysnipe]

well javelin has 4Xs9 weapons on each turret so it has 8 S9.

[@davewills148]

Javelin is rumoured to come with NO WEAPONS........strongly rumoured!

[@zman_o7]

That’s what I’m talking about! o7 🤣👍

[@Farrister]

Yeahhhhh! o7

[@SolarWindsRider]

It would be great if CIG implemented some real use cases for self-contained explorer and base ships. Like some planet systems and areas that take hours of real time to get to and that have no space stations or infrastructure. Because now, despite the scale of the game, you are always 2 mins away from a space station or major city. And no, it will not change much with Pyro) Maybe instead of 2 mins it will be 5 min there. Nowhere near to justify the existence of autonomous base ships.

[@FormerBunsenBurner]

And what exactly makes you say that it won't be different once Pyro comes out? There's already been talk of reducing quantum fuel tank sizes, which would make it so you'd need to hop from station to station for smaller ships. Pyro is also known to be several orders of magnitude larger than Stanton, which means a much larger distance between celestial bodies, not a mere 5 minutes. Also, Pyro is an outlaw system, so even if there are plenty of stations to refuel at (Which I doubt), you would run the risk of running into pirates.

[@SolarWindsRider]

@@FormerBunsenBurner several orders of magnitude is 100 or 1,000. Pyro is only 3 times bigger than Stanton. Why do I think Pyro will be the same? Because of 100+ ship CIG has, only 4 or 5 are self-sufficient exploration vessels. You really think that CIG will make Pyro unplayable for 99% of the players who don't have such ships? Of course they won't. Pyro will be accessible and playable to anyone with a starter ship. And it won't be more dangerous than Grimhex is currently. Probably, there will be more hostile NPCs and there won't be as many shops. By landing pads, refueling stations and outposts will definitely be all over the system.

[@Farrister]

You're kind of right, but I think we'll get that. Yes, Pyro will be much bigger than Stanton, but Pyro is by no means the biggest system we are promised. The biggest question is: when?

[@SolarWindsRider]

@@Farrister well, firstly, SC lore doesn't matter much now, they can resize the system depending on their technical needs. But most importantly, as I mentioned in previous reply, CIG will never strip away game content from the majority of players. Regardless of the system, it will be possible to play there with any ships. Some ships may be more practical than others, but I'm sure they will not make a system that half of in-game ships won't be able to cross.

[@marlboro9tibike]

crew : 80 max players per instance : 50 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Farrister]

Isn't it 100 at the moment?

[@UnknownMoses]

Spaceships are always dry, what’s a dry dock in space

[@frsfrosty5973]

Can we buy it💀

[@evobsm2328]

Ofcourse for a measly 3000$ and whenever there is an important event

[@HelminthCombos]

the lore for this ship is just bad. massive beasts like this would have been upgraded probably once every 25-35 years.

[@Farrister]

Possibly - certainly, in a contemporary navy that's likely

[@Haegemon]

Its's an old ship from the UEE-Vanduul war. The lore is that which fits Squadron42. We didn't see the Javelin Mk2 and we don't know if another vessel was comissioned with a different name before the Flight2 refit. It makes sense for the UEEN to have pretty old ships in Stanton where there is already an autonomous private navy like Crusader. For a real example Russia is now using their old T34 tanks refited.

[@AuzzieWithAGun]

i gotta stop watching videos on the javelin or im gonna make some poor financial decisions for someone as young as me

[@shawnc5188]

The only ship in SC that’s useless without Zeta-Prolanide

[@Farrister]

brutal lol

[@davewills148]

When you buy the Javelin your gifting it to the Org/Group, it have absolutely no use as a solo acquisition, a very weird gesture to make to group of total strangers, coupled with the nonsense LORE of the game, ''ships are hundreds of years old'', never heard anything so ridiculous, that's why i never read such gibberish when playing a game. Interesting breakdown nonetheless