The "Weird" Melodies of Ancient Greek Music - feat. Aristoxenus

[@faryafaraji]

Ancient Greek music theorist drinks too much tsipouro while talking about modes perceived as weird from a modern Western perspective.mp3 Sources: • Ancient Greek Music: A New Technical History, Steven Hagel • Ancient Greek Music, Martin L. West • Microtonality in Ancient Greek Music, Michael Hewitt • Hearing Greek Microtones, John Curtis Franklin: www.austriaca.at/0xc1aa5576%200x000a3647.pdf

[@nihil_hd1598]

Hey Farya,can you please give me the name of the song at 19:09?That song sounds great!

[@faryafaraji]

@@nihil_hd1598Armenaki, it’s Giannis Parios’ version and I also have one on the channel :)

[@nihil_hd1598]

@@faryafaraji Thank you!That's why it sounded so familiar

[@alexanderfo3886]

And proofs another time how Western and Oriental music are closer related than some would think. Thank you very much for this video.

[@ГеоргийБолотник]

​@@faryafarajiyour Greek accent is so accurate. That is definitely great.

[@fuferito]

Aristoxenus hijacks the channel to discuss the Phrygian mode and the Ionian mode because Aristoxenus _knows_ that as an English speaking French-Canadian, Farya will only discuss Depeche Mode.

[@a.m.4479]

LMAOOOOOOOO🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@luanacostea6711]

😂

[@GeoBBB123]

Dorian

[@Lerenwordtleuker]

I need exactly this.

[@Fakeslimshady]

He's a Greco-Persian!

[@legocitykilldozer]

you can't possibly have such a good greek accent.. once I heard that λοιπόν I was sure I was hearing a compatriot..

[@finnmerlin8718]

The greek accent is as accurate as if he was a native speaker 😭🙏🏼 Farya's performance of Aristoxenus is his greatest masterpiece yet

[@fuferito]

Aristoxenus hijacks the channel to discuss the diatonic and the pentatonic because Aristoxenus _knows_ that as a hard drinking English speaking French-Canadian who smokes *it,* Farya will only contemplate the "catatonic."

[@Razamaniac]

pure diamond !!!

[@ScorpioMartianus]

Oxygen is indeed a Greek word. By Zeus's fire, you're right! Greeks did invent breathing. Amazing video, φίλε μου.

[@faryafaraji]

Haha ευχαριστώ Luke!

[@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an]

"Bro, can we breathe yet" "Nah, bro. Greeks havent invented it yet"

[@Brandon55638]

That's hilarious! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@The0Stroy]

It means "acid maker"

[@spiros8531]

Greek word but created by a French chemist (Antoine Laurent Lavoisier) in 1777

[@makedonas_ellhnas]

Only thing I have to say is that you absolutely nailed the greek accent without a doubt

[@thedevil1667]

He is not Greek?

[@adamcross7061]

@@thedevil1667 No, but even with a musician's ear, he'd need to go to a few hundred Greek weddings to mimic the accent that well.

[@archaeaoris900]

​@@thedevil1667 ​ he is Canadian and Iranian. BUT if you look like a Greek and speak like a Greek, you are Greek. :D

[@makedonas_ellhnas]

​@@thedevil1667No he isnt , but I am! And I can tell you he has nailed the accent 😂😂

[@thedevil1667]

@@makedonas_ellhnas φίλε νόμιζα μη ειρωνικά ότι είναι Έλληνας

[@digitaljanus]

This is a great and fun music lesson, but the Delian League interstitial had me on the floor. 😂 Thanks Farya.

[@Subsidiarity3]

I was wondering if this was suddenly going to turn into an actual ad, for let's say Atlas VPN (note the Greek name, would be perfect), but no. It's strictly Aristoxenus being Athenian and robbing you.

[@charbird20]

I’m both learning and dying of laughter. This is wonderfully educational! I’ve been searching for a video like this for a story I’m writing, and this could not have crossed my path at a better time! Thank you, Aristoxenus ❤

[@keepcalm2626]

Aristoxenus is the typical old guy that says "Younger generation music is fucked up!" ,but in ancient Greece! :o

[@BlueLena]

Perhaps someone has already said it but I love that he chose the name Aristoxenos for himself (means “Perfect Foreigner”)

[@MYGAS21]

Your right! I didn't notice it! ...Well to be exact: Literally it means the FIRST Foreigner. ("Ariston" was the first meal of the day: breakfast) But the meaning of First is Best and the meaning of Best is Perfect or Excellent (He who excels or distinguishes himself so a similar shift in meanings happens in English and Latin as well) ....Farya here is playing the role of the famous grumpy Musicologist from the Hellenistic period. Farya refers to him quit allot in other videos. ...and as to what he was grumpy about.

[@ValQuinn]

aristoxenus was a real guy but it's a great coincidence

[@moumouzel]

or "perfect stranger"

[@Podium-arts]

@@MYGAS21 the difference is that "breakfast" starts with a long A, and best with a short initial. One can speculate what the name started with.

[@ΔημήτρηςΒογιατζής-ι4ε]

Not sure but the word xènos refers to filoxénia=hospitality. Àristos means first in the meaning of "best". So i think Aristòxenos is the one who offers perfect hospitality

[@authormichellefranklin]

Amazing to see that Aristoxenus mastered the Casio keyboard in 335 BC!

[@ΣτελιοςΠεππας]

I am from Mytilene and i just joined the Delian League. I feel super safe and I'm sure that nothing bad will happen to me!

[@Badnercalabrese]

Nobody would ever think of rebelling.

[@charlesfu3726]

Ah no one knows you're a Lesbian

[@CCL1603]

I was always into folk music and play folk instruments too, but you have inspired this greek black metal musician to delve into the ancient greek music with these videos, thank you brother!

[@ΠατούληςΦίλιππος]

Hahaha...I am from Crete and I agreed so much with you about it.

[@faryafaraji]

Haha much love to Crete, the coolest Greeks as far as I’m concerned ❤

[@ΠατούληςΦίλιππος]

@@faryafaraji Thank you again for all your exceptional work Farya.

[@obabas80]

​@@faryafarajiela more kopeli mou farayaki inta kanis?!? Much Love from a Cretan in America! Great video!

[@adamcross7061]

You got me. I was thinking, "Oh, did he get Atlas VPN as a sponsor?". Suddenly it's the Delian League and the Aristoxenus persona is running wild.

[@joshuakirkham9593]

The fact that you remained in character throughout, was hilarious. I heard my father-in-law as you claimed the invention of everything. 😂

[@based-iranian]

The greek accent 💀💀💀

[@based-iranian]

Anyways im still waiting for the shah ismail symphony keep going

[@MoebiusPan]

"The enχarmonic..." 😂

[@MensHominis]

I’ve never known “arrogant drunk Greek” to be an existing trope (apart from listening to Plato’s Socrates, I mean 🗿) but I love it so much.

[@ZZzz-fe9bo]

It's actually very accurate

[@antisystemicparadise1202]

It maybe sounds wrong to you but actually this is the proper pronunciation of words. Just because some people can't or never actually learned how to speak properly, and they cut words in half, that doesn't also mean it's right.

[@OneFlyingTonk]

Man took the meme of the cretan farmer, the attitude of Aristoxenus on his last appearance and has brought forth perhaps his most well done character. I will say that I had to take physical notes more often on this video due to the sheer number of times I found myself unable to properly listen due to intense laughter; however I came also to realize that, unlike 1-2 years ago when I first stumbled upon your musical compositions and arrangements, I no longer find enharmonic or chromatic modes to be "disruptive" or "wrong", something that did put me off a few times on your greek, turkish, arabic and iranic compositions of the time because of my inherent "diatonic is the only way to make modes" bias. Fun to know that is no longer the case, ¡keep it up man!

[@genchebanu]

What a nice person Mr. Aristoxenus is! And a true man of culture. Reminds me of my father

[@Subsidiarity3]

My condolences.

[@anaphaxeton]

Dr. Aristoxenus.

[@22suezann]

@@Subsidiarity3 😂😂

[@Vict0r1984]

Cue that Serbian turbofolk song! You know which one I'm talking about... 😉😂

[@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt]

Θα μας τρελάνεις τελείως ρε φίλε Φαρία!🇬🇷❤🇬🇷❤🇬🇷❤🇬🇷

[@BorninPurple]

"But if, but if you have Greek music, you would have win but you lose." "Lose? Lose where?" "You lose. Why the heptatonic scale this, not *this*"

[@nikitsir11]

Λοιπόν! You manage to sound like a Greek speaking English even to the eeeeh between words. Nothing less than amazing! Also, once more, I have to admit that I've never thought theory of music (or theory of anything, really) would be so diverting. I laughed so hard my frappé came out though my nose!

[@thedevil1667]

He isn't Greek? Μπρο It sounds so greek

[@deep-friedtofu9013]

@@thedevil1667 He's Assyrian

[@charlesfu3726]

@@deep-friedtofu9013Worse, he's Hyrcanian

[@aftermeta6556]

i believe he is the enemy ....Persian

[@bernard3303]

He is a mazandarani guy who grow up in Iran, in a town with a large Turkmen population then migrated to Canada, so he speaks at least 5 different languages

[@jimatreidēs]

I love your videos and your Greek accent!!! 😂 I’m currently learning Byzantine music and I learned that it traces back to the modes in Ancient Greece. There are 8 modes and they have names like Dorian, Phrygian etc., which are not the same as what western music calls them. You’re right, they did screw up the names! 😂

[@khelian613]

I absolutely love it when you go for these grumpy trash-talking music theorists, never fails. ***PULL OUT MY GLOCK 45*** btw, being a fan (and former student) of ancient Assyria (notwithstanding Aristoxenus' eventual objections), I would love for you to explore mesopotamian music in your compositions - if ever you feel like it of course! Thank you for your amazing work ^^

[@isimerias]

congratulations on your first sponsorship!!! I would leave all my money in the most capable hands of Greeks if I could 👌

[@user-cofee]

Pity he didn't include any redim code. I would like to spend money but how to show the delian league that he sent me?

[@zechordlord]

Farya, you are giving away all our secrets :) Much love from an immigrant Cretan in Sweden. You are making me very homesick with these videos and I am getting a huge urge to buy a traditional instrument and start playing.

[@Basil_o_brouzos]

I can here the love and passion you have for music and history and teaching through this perfect act and accent. Great job

[@eroscreatives]

Brilliant! A wonderful blend of music theory, history, humour and satire. Thank you.

[@antomcmanus1775]

Okay I'm like 6 hours into your channel and want to marry you 😂 you have literally answered so many questions that I would need a degree or private tutor costing thousands to access! Most underrated channel KZbin! Go Raibh Maith Agat! Keep busting them western stereotypes 😍

[@etiennegarant7545]

Perhaps its a sign I've been listening a bit too much of your stuff on repeat I've just started signing along at 16:53 "Adam Xsayarsah, Xayah, Thyia Haxamanyshya!" Anyway, thank you Artistoxenos for the ever insightful commentary.

[@faryafaraji]

Wow I’m honoured haha, I didn’t think people would recognise my melodies 😂 Thanks

[@sapa1895]

Aristoxenus, why are you so hostile to Farya? He seems a good guy for a barbarian...

[@Hope_Boat]

Nothing personal. It's an old story between us Greeks and the Achemenids.

[@Aki95TV]

For me, Byzantine and Balkan music that you make are sound the best and please make some more! All the best, appreciate your work!

[@oscargonzales7948]

That is the very best and most entertaining music tutorial I ever saw. Thank you very much for all your effort.

[@Silikone]

Acquiring a perfect repertoire of phonemes and intonation of a language without actually speaking said language. Reminds me too much of myself.

[@anakinvader9120]

I just want to say, as someone who is currently learning greek, your music and lyrics have REALLY helped me practuce reading and understanding the rich history of the culture alot more! Id write Thank you in greek, but I dont have my keyboard in greek lol

[@l.ross.6400]

The michrophone is a Rode, of course. They removed the "H" for barbarians, more easy to pronounce. And it's only one microphone, so without "S" at the end.

[@rasmusn.e.m1064]

Between Häagen Dasz and Røde, the latter takes the cake by a mile for having the more authentic-sounding faux-Scandinavian name (Häagen Dazs looks distinctly Eastern European), but they didn't do a great job at emphasising it: almost like they did a Metal Band Classic and only added the Ø because of the aesthetic.

[@z3wxy77k]

As a Spaniard, I understand better the greek accent than his normal accent

[@BoogieBubble]

Οfc , whenever i go to Spain and i listen people talking , i think they speak some weird dialect of Greek. Especially , if i have a couple of drinks i swear i can listen Greek words in there! Hahahaha.

[@Razamaniac]

it must become a channel regular 😂

[@urlocalarash]

I thought Farya will never be making funny stuff again I love your work

[@respectboy4966]

Brother Souvlakis back at it with another Fire video!

[@TheThingInMySink]

I'm actually seething with anger watching you sit in the sun when it's 4 degrees outside my house and raining sideways.

[@RaptorSeer]

Great lesson, one can only hope to find a multitude of pizzas in every octave. Thanks Aristoxenus!

[@ramsesflores7743]

Just wanted to let you know in my French 101 class we had to write about our favorite francophone musician and I chose you. Cheers!

[@faryafaraji]

Oh wow! I’m honoured, merci!

[@iberius9937]

Perfect Greek accent and appearance! Hilarious video!

[@robotguard614]

Ok, this, THIS is the funniest thing I have ever seen today. I want more videos in this format. I had a bad fever today but this made my mood. Thank you brother.

[@voultsides]

It takes a lot of talent to speak English with a Greek accent.

[@Razamaniac]

it takes more talent for an ancient greek to speak modern english 🤣

[@vasilijestevanovic5142]

You became JonTron again around the 6th minute. XD Very nice video, btw. Very educational. Great!

[@faryafaraji]

Fun fact alot of people always remark that it looks like JonTron when I do these gestures, and that kind of intonation/gesture at the 6th minute is very Iranian, and JonTron’s part Iranian so I think there’s a connection there haha

[@vasilijestevanovic5142]

@@faryafaraji Oh, god, you are probably right. This is the third eye opening moment. The Farya Jafari moment if you will. XD

[@Gotholia]

I laughed so hard, my Cretan cousin..

[@rancidcrawfish]

Everything about this channel is great 👍🏼

[@tomasmichael3576]

This guy is unbelievable! Best music channel!

[@tdgs]

Excellent Greek accent! And I learned a lot about music. As always. Keep up the good work!

[@OlegOfTheDead]

Странное дело - с таким акцентом я удивительно хорошо стал понимать английский. Это замечательно! XD И понятие октав тоже, кстати. It’s a strange thing - with such an accent, I began to understand English surprisingly well. This is amazing! XD And the concept of octaves too, by the way.

[@Razamaniac]

thius channel must fire Farya and make Aristoxenus the permanent one 🤣

[@BigBadWolframio]

Aristoxenus is back to explain the Sass Mode

[@faryafaraji]

The best mode there is

[@Brandon55638]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dariogutierrez6716]

I don't know why I consume these videos like crack. It's not like I'll learn much or have enough interest in music theory. I think it's just Farya's, i mean, Aristoxenus' enthusiasm that takes over.

[@freddywondercat1362]

Please bring back Aristoxenus - his voice makes me feel good

[@olahellasnews1252]

Did you say the Gin and Tonic mode I'm all ears. You are the best.

[@gerganatsareva1733]

Bravo for choosing tsipuro, and not ouzo - the real drink! Well done, master Farya! Greetings from Bulgaria!

[@eduardocarbonellbelando6865]

Aristoxenus sounds like a mixture of Slavoj Zizek , Tony Soprano and a greek guy.

[@StergiosMekras]

Ok... now tell me that man is not Greek (Cretan, even) masquerading as an Iranian in Quebec.

[@fanir33]

Your chanel is PURE GOLD

[@tymmiara5967]

The best sponsor message ever, hahaha

[@vktoons_animation]

Funny and educating! Also, your accent is really Greek! Hopefully we''ll see similar videos about other music traditions!

[@ΜαρίαΑποστολίδου-ψ7κ]

I was gonna comment in greek, my god you're a genius, such phonetic understanding- I was suprised to see you're not an actor too. At last thanks for the scale analysis, tbh you can't get away from music theory recap even if you have the carrier of Beethoven himself. Much love

[@inscitia]

13:10 expectation: VPN, reality: Delian League

[@Flammenhagel]

Faryos Faryatzopoulomatakis

[@iberius9937]

I laughed my ass off at the "sponsor of this video" bit. 😂

[@foruttedavid12]

This man is musician, history lover, shitposter, comedian and polýglottos, what else can we ask to the gods?

[@Edgtheow]

It's a same that you don't like us, Aristoxenus, because we love you! Very informative video, thanks for explaining the subjects of different scales so concisely. The ancient Greek jokes and jabs were great, too. Now pass some of that tsipouro (if there's any left, lol)

[@balkanmountains2-3131]

This is genuinely the funniest video I've seen this year.

[@anatoliecazacu7535]

The chromatic ting sound really good. It actually sounds a bit "sweet". A fruity kind of sweet.

[@eduardocarbonellbelando6865]

I love Armenaki!!! Loved that you showed it at the end.

[@Sandra.Molchanova]

This is the best music lesson ever ❤

[@SD-fp8ei]

The Turks have been pretty quiet since you dropped this video. 😅 Amazing presentation, well done! 😉👍🏻

[@thewolfofathens6606]

Excellent work!!! Μπράβο ρε μάγκα!

[@indecentanalyst]

As someone living in Greece, I must say the Greek accent is spot on :D

[@Condinou]

Farya..your video, your music, your knowledge, your information, your thoughts and ideas as well as your presentation are undoubtedly great !! You seem to have a plethora of "Γνώση" (knowledge) on the subject and an immaculate "Γνώμη" (opinion) the two uppermost qualities of the ancient Greek philosophers! So, forgive me to say this, but I get the unmistakable impression that you must have really been a reincarnation of a Greek genotype in a modern and surely sophisticated Persian phenotype! Great Respect!

[@Rivershines]

You’re so funny! I love this video so much. I’ve been teaching myself Byzantine chanting for two years and understanding the modes are so central your lesson is by far the best and finally helped me get a handle on it! I’m studying Greek too and your jokes crack me up!

[@HYBRIDLqTHEORY]

bro i would love to hear a full song of that diatonic lyra

[@IoanCenturion]

Farya, a question for you if you read these. I study and chant 'Byzantine' (Greek/Antiochian Orthodox) music. We have Eight Tones in four scales that we call Enharmonic, Diatonic, Soft Chromatic, and Hard Chromatic. Do you know what the equivalents of these would be in the music you're talking about?

[@bazilmuzik1456]

Hello ! I've read many times the work of Aristoxenus about music of his time, and yes: he mentions (and gives the notes for) hard and soft chromatic modes. Interesting to learn these terms still exist in Byzantine music :)

[@faryafaraji]

Yeah so the terms themselves have survived but the meanings are effectively completely different and mean different things today. Those Byzantine modes are basically rearrangements of the tetrachords of Ancient Greek modes, but they’re functionally divided and categorised on completely different grounds than the ancient ones :)

[@IoanCenturion]

@@faryafaraji Gotcha, I kinda figured. What would their equivalents (or closest approximation) be in the ancient terminology? Appreciate the answer, love your music!

[@faryafaraji]

@@IoanCenturion The thing is that the rearrangement of the modes into the Octoechos is so fundamentally different from that of Ancient Greece that I don’t know if equivalents can be drawn between the categories as a whole. Instead, one is better off isolating each scale and finding the equivalent there, so from an Ancient Greek’s point of view, Agni Parthene would be in a mixture of Dorian Diatonic and Phrygian Diatonic, while Ti Ipermaho would be Ionian Diatonic with slight chromatic alteration. Of course, the musical material is largely the same. Same tetrachords and notes, only rearranged in a fundamentally different conceptual and terminological framework

[@IoanCenturion]

@@faryafaraji Makes sense. Thanks for sharing the knowledge, keep making your awesome music!

[@21Hellin]

You have a passion for what you do that very few content creators have. Your videos are very interesting and your effort pays off!

[@Shaco.]

I'm really glad that I've found your channel by chance, your musical pieces are a gift from heaven and bring a lot of peace to my mind.

[@alashiya9536]

Love the humor 😂

[@MariaAngelaGrow]

Thank you. I needed the laugh with all that is happening in the world. I think I must be completely abnormal. I love this kind of music and think of it as absolutely normal. My brain seems to thrive on more complex music.

[@GeorgePapademetriou]

Brilliant! You have nailed the greek phyche man!

[@mr.normalguy69]

Our great _Socrates the son of Souvlakis_ has returned!

[@bubalolo]

I have difficulty discerning between Chromatic and Enharmonic, but I'll take your word for it Aristoxenos.

[@historicaladventurevideos]

I see that Aristoxenus is still really mad that he didn't get to inherit the Lykeion.

[@SirElinator]

Hello Farya Faraji I am a big fan of yours You sang many languages new as epic but if you would also use ancient aramaic songs or prayer as epic version how would it sound to you? Maybe as a new idea

[@justincastillo9345]

Almost channeling Critical Drinker by the end there 😂 Great video Aristoxenos!

[@jeremeyrichardson116]

Just when you couldn’t get any better. Bam! You sir, are a £ucking Legend!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏 I await the Persian Barbarian rebuttal. 🤣🤣

[@whothefluff]

Unhinged Farya is the best Farya

[@joraninator]

Aristoxenus I will join your expedition to sicily

[@aimilios439]

I was sure you were Greek mate. Excellent knowledge of the language and the Greek cult. Great video also. Incredible.

[@GrandmaEllen]

You are so funny! I like hijaz, etc. The sound. I love microtones. I wish I had grown up with music made of it. We don't like you. Not all. LOL! This was fun, except for.....MORE. Thank you. Grandma Ellen, out.

[@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an]

Plot twist: Aristoxenus broke out of the tapestry realm and imprisoned Farya in it. There is no meme, only Aristoxenus

[@Kassandra_Troy]

Thx . This is really useful. I recognize it now. Some songs are full of it. This is what makes Greek music so intriguing. Feels like something mysterious.

[@quietcat]

For a second there, I thought you'd actually gotten a sponsorship, turns out it was just a history lesson disguised as a long winded joked.

[@maxsz91]

I want more of Mr. Αριστόξενος! Definitely the wisest of the wise and the finest amongst human beings 😀

[@ericfaith2810]

Music theory is for sound artists like color theory is the visual arts. ☺️ 🎵 🎶🎶🎵

[@NEKROLAVS451]

Απίθανος, εύγε και ευχαριστώ για την γνώση.