Tesla FSD v13 Has Changed Everything

[@DirtyTesla]

Thanks for having Stephanie and I! Great to talk.

[@FarzadMediaINC]

Our pleasure!

[@philwelling7172]

Looking forward to the day when you test the CyberCab around MI and Ann Arbor

[@snookmeister55]

Texas first and it won't be long. ​@philwelling7172

[@ApteraEV2024]

@@FarzadMediaINCdon’t wake the baby😮😅❤

[@tslaryrad]

Farzad team should make it to Michigan Tesla meetup next summer

[@trina2100]

FSD is life changing for me because Im the type to cancel plans or not go places due to traffic or long drives. It caused me to be somewhat of a homebody. Now I don't even think about it since I know I won't be irritated en route. Last night my son wanted to go see Xmas lights about 30 miles away. I knew it would be bumper to bumper traffic the majority of the way but I didn't hesitate to go. It's great and I will purchase it as long as it's available.

[@michaelgutmann2536]

When I first started using auto pilot for highways my wife was extremely nervous but now she has gained more confidence in autopilot she insists that I use it on the highway as she feels FSD is better at maintaining the lane discipline however she still refuses to use auto pilot herself. By the way we are 82 years old! I can't wait to getting FSD version 13+ in the UK but I suspect I may not live to see it.DAMN!

[@hakanstuns43]

I think it will go fast from here. It is the future and they HAVE to embrace it sooner or later. And I think it will be in 1-2 years in UK. Would look like a 3rd world country otherwise. EU should have it next year.

[@-whackd]

Keep yourself in good health, it will drive you and your wife in a year.

[@hakanstuns43]

@@-whackd 100%

[@retiredbitjuggler3471]

I had to chuckle when you guys mentioned the comments you recorded after disengagements. One I left had me laughing after the fact when FSD made a rather late and aggressive break on the highway and I had to hit the break peddle. My wife reacted pretty badly and I found myself telling the audio prompt “ I had to intervene to prevent my wife from performing a backflip from the front seat into the backseat. “. If looks could kill, I would be dead instead of laughing right now! That was on V12. I can’t wait to get V13!😊😊😊

[@Someone_Cool.x3]

I looove that you're having all the best beta testers on your channel❤

[@eternusgravitas]

I have no idea how FSD will deal with a Canadian winter where the road and everything around it is hidden by a recent snow storm before it is plowed. We are used to inferring where the road is by memory, and with "hints" like wire posts, gutter valleys, roads signs, and other landmarks. I remember driving through a valley with the road hidden by windblown snow flowing across the road like a low-lying fog. It wasn't snowing.

[@gregbailey45]

I love watching Chris's FSD videos precisely because he is so fair and sensible. He doesn't come across as a fanboy to me at all! Nice to hear how Steph has changed her mind, too, but not surprised.

[@Vorsutus]

Can wait to try v13. It will most likely be my favorite Christmas gift.

[@homosapien6031]

U sure it’ll be wide by Christmas?

[@walterwhite1]

I just got it dude. But didn’t get the holiday update. wtf 😂

[@retiredbitjuggler3471]

You hit on a great point - FSD will always drive differently than me and I know many disengagements I encounter weren’t safety related, but rather, comfort related. The same feeling I get when I am being driven by someone else and we have different driving styles.

[@Da-King-of-Swing]

First time Tesla owner here (CT) and first time FSD user (Oct 30) I'm currently on V12.5.5.3 and I think is phenomenal

[@543whitey]

25mph is often in a school zone, and yes they will pull you over at 35

[@retiredbitjuggler3471]

I’m addicted to the FSD test drives because I retired after a 43 year career in the high tech industry and I have witnessed many leaps in technology over the decades - some where truly mind blowing, but nothing has compared to the press to autonomy for the average person. I look at my 6 grandchildren and wonder which one will be the first one who will not have to get a driver’s license to travel solo in a car. Never mind what the impact of AI will have on their futures. It is exciting and scares the crap out of me simultaneously- the first time in my long tech trek. 😀😀😀😕😕😕☹️☹️☹️🙂🙂🙂😀😀😀

[@walterwhite1]

I have a 4 year old and feel the same way buddy 🤔

[@rodneysmith1750]

I really like Chris and Stephanie, been watching them all the way back to the beginning, great show today, good topic, and good coverage.

[@davidkendall2272]

Huge fan of Chris and his wife Stephanie and their take on FSD improvements and comfort. Thanks for having them on, and look forward to hearing from other beta testers!

[@dennisolson5871]

Instead of a trial that expires after 30 calendar days, allow 30 non-consecutive days of use. I'm 82 years old and may drive my car.only a couple of days per week. Some of those trips are two blocks away to the nearest grocery store when doesn't require FSD. I'd like to get 30 days of use when I actually engage the FSD system, even though that would extend over two of three months.

[@JohnSteele-j6j]

How about 50 free uses. That could be three months or ten days.

[@JeffHouseholder]

@@dennisolson5871 I think a number of hours would be good. Say, 60-100 free hours of FSD. Or whatever a fair amount of time would be. I’m in my car an hour each day just getting to and from work.

[@PeterTeehan]

I have a 2024 Model Y dual motor long range HWV4 - No update yet. I drive for Uber parttime. I'm super excited to see how V13 will handle Colorado roads!

[@7daniel49]

Come give me a ride!

[@hakanstuns43]

What version do u have now? 12.5.6?

[@dont_hit_trees]

Keep us posted!

[@PeterTeehan]

@@hakanstuns43 yes - and in my experience its pretty buggy.

[@firstset7415]

Have you considered uploading these conversations as a podcast on spotify? Id really like that

[@CarloHerrmann]

Super valuable content … you are making it come alive … especially for us in France who are super jealous and can’t wait to get it so we can verify for ourselves !! Thanks you guys are on the breaking edge of the future.

[@Unidrigo]

Great video / conversation. On a recent drive with 12.5.4 - the car did a couple of really amazing moves that had me go, 'wow' did it just do that. 1 - on a two lane road, where it merges into one, a driver decided to make a left turn suddenly. The car immediately reacts and swerves around the other car, maintaining speed (no signal) and that was with another car behind me with a decent gap. Let me impressed at the quick processing. 2 - While in fsd got caught at the tail end of 4 way intersection when all the other cars stopped due to a red light and I was the last car in the pile. I pressed the pedal to inch up the car Infront of me to mitigate being stuck at the intersection to the best of my abilities. The car instead threw on the turn signal (seemingly ignoring my pedal press) when into the open lane and kept it moving. That's when I thought to myself 'Oh duh, why didn't I think of that'. Again impressed. Other issues that Chris said are still there on 12.5.4 . Divining under the set limit (with a max of 5 over) despite good weather and clear conditions is annoying. And occasionally not getting out of the turning lane when it had to drive straight. So I'm looking forward to try v13 or the next public version when the trial on my 24 model y runs out.

[@tHebUm18]

51:05 As a software engineer, watching someone use your software is great. Especially when they do things you don't expect or that should not work that way. It is enlightening as a builder of something to see how it's being used directly.

[@dkgong]

Man, I can’t wait until we get v13 for hw3.

[@jstar1000]

If ever lol.

[@TeslaTobi]

Great conversation guys, great detailed explanations. As a beta tester myself, I can relate with it all.

[@LovetheTesla]

Free tip, use photo chromatic lenses on all the cars cameras, comma and fix school zones will go 20 and then we’re good to go

[@dazisgud]

It's funny hearing you guys talk about how bad the old FSD was because it never sounded like it was that bad when any anybody would talk about it. You would think it was only a month away from being finished

[@razzarelli1988]

Well, in retrospect, it wasn't that great. Was amazing for the time, but looking back, it wasn't. Same as graphics for older game systems. Back in the day they looked amazing! Now, you play an old game, and while nostalgic and fun to play, let's be honest, the graphics sucked 😂

[@hakanstuns43]

12.5.6 is where people started to get amazed about FSD. Even the most objective testers here on youtube is very bullish on it. V13 will solve it imo. V14 will be super duper human driver. 2025 will be interesting.

[@Matzes]

It's always relative I guess

[@goldreverre]

Although, to be fair, most commentors would readily say it wasn't perfect. They were impressed, but always there was a caveat that it made mistakes.

[@zeph3070]

You gotta understand a bit more detail into the nature of what was being achieved. No one would believe you if you said this is where elons self driving would be in 4 years, in 2020. This is an advance in tech where much of the accomplishment gets missed by the public. I really don't know this for sure but other companies seem to be surprisingly far behind, or tesla ahead, however you want to look at it.

[@lawsnewton]

Version 12.5.3 on my 2018 M3 is terrible about changing lane esspecially on the HighWay where the lane next to me is clear but it just won't change lane. I need v13.2!!! 😅

[@trina2100]

I notice that too. Even if your exit is close by it will stay in the middle lane til the last .1 miles or so. I usually turn on my signal when I see it's not gonna do it on its own.

[@nadjafelton1894]

Yes, my car sometimes wont change lanes even if I use the turn signal. And can we PLEEEAAASE get auto wipers that don’t drag dead bugs across my bone dry windshield??

[@user-to2rf1rj5v]

4:26 can't wait for this. Currently, my FSD (12.5.5.3) shows the only correct path on the NAV, but the car repeatedly tries to take the wrong turn or get in exit only lanes, etc.

[@ericl1421]

I think the take rate will increase drastically once it becomes unsupervised (for at least some portions). I used it often for the trial, but I wouldn't shell out 99 per month for it. I definitely would if I can get time back.

[@hakanstuns43]

100% They will be able to adjust the price so they got most revenue in the end. Maybe it will be 50$ who knows :)

[@colinmackie5211]

In Australia you lose your licence for 3 months of you drive 10 mph over. No Cop involved, just speed camera ticket in the post. Fsd Australia will have to adjust to Australian conditions!

[@goldreverre]

Not just 10mph over... Fines and loss of points for only 2-3 mph over the limit, and definitely no turning through red lights. It will probably need local training data for each state.

[@cmac9710]

Wow..👀

[@colinmackie5211]

Happened to my wife at midnight. Overhead led speed signs changed to 40kms on 100kms freeway, no other cars in the road, no visible road works, midnight. Lost licence!

[@alx4571]

If FSD 13 is great then summon should be able to work without line of sight being necessary. And self parking should be fully automated without a driver inside. That would be a good upgrade to keep extending the distance that summon and self park without a driver.

[@alx4571]

Add a gyroscope or something to FSD cause it’s way too hard on breaking accelerating and just changing lanes. I mean it throws you around in the car at times. It should be much more smooth and perhaps a sensor like that would help it.

[@saff226]

I'm pretty sure it does have one.

[@alx4571]

@ well it doesn’t use it. There are times it breaks super hard for no reason coming up to a red light where anything not tied down goes flying forward. Then green light and slide right back. Cornering tossing you over to the side. Can’t image this is a great experience if you are in the back of a robotaxi being flung around with nothing to hold onto other than your seatbelt. Getting 3 stars on Uber for roller coaster ride. I wan’t smoother than a limo. It’s more than capable. Also if there is a dip in the road and it’s a 50mph speed limit, hold on to your hat. I thought it tried to launch me out of my seat.

[@737smartin]

It does have that data, and it does use it. Just a matter of putting the right emphasis on that feature without messing some other value up!

[@alx4571]

@@737smartin occupant comfort should come right after no accidents. It needs to learn how to coast. It would improve its efficiency as well. Look farther ahead. It doesn’t need to zoom up to a red light or group of traffic only to hammer on the brakes.

[@737smartin]

@alx4571 Easy! I'm not disagreeing that it needs to be addressed. These are still the "student driver" days with FSD. They're still mainly focused on assuring no accidents.

[@gregbailey45]

My only experience of driver assistance is my wife's Corolla with Cruise Control. It's really quite primitive, and I still have to keep full concentration on driving, but even just taking control of speed away makes long distance driving SO much less of a chore! I can hardly imagine how much better V13 is! I still can't convince my wife to use CC.

[@princeofexcess]

It's a type of monte carlo search. The car is picking some likely scenarios and runs them as a simulation. Whenever it finds a scenario that is not comfortable (too hard breaking or near collision) it abandons it and runs other searches. It then picks the most comfortable and safe option. The ride becomes insanely comfortable if you can run these scenarios fast enough.

[@edhill8568]

Great video, thank you. One question I now ask some people that really catches them off guard is "Do you think young children today will get a drivers license?" After they understand that FSD is doing all my driving you immediately see their wheels spin as they ponder the question.

[@tob4942]

Totally agree about deleting worries for fsd supervised

[@lucidf8]

Um, yeah I do actually stop at STOP signs. But, the law in CA says you should stop for 2 full seconds, which I don’t do. I have gotten rearended (just a tap) because the person behind me didn’t think I was actually going to stop at the STOP sign (a teenager, of course). So, I’ve take to checking my rear view mirror when stopping at STOP signs, and if they are too young or driving a BMW, I slow roll it. 😂

[@stevecha3612]

I must be lucky, my wife has been on board with FSD since we first got it 3 years ago and we both independently use it 100% of the time (we share a 2024 model Y) (previously had a model s)

[@andrewvercillo7584]

I think it’s not only driving well, it drives BETTER than I would. Better than we all would. We would have to focus and try to execute the perfect drive and V13 is better than that. It’s better than a human driver and will soon be 10x better than the best human driver it’s definitely better than my 16yo so. And my 89yo grandmother.

[@Augmented_Human_C4_621]

lol. i definitely come to a complete stop to 0 mph. reinforces good habits, a clear rule, makes it second nature to be super safe without thinking about it.

[@freedomhonkhonk5169]

@@Augmented_Human_C4_621 nerd

[@cybergigafactory]

Man, you have to do such a commercial intro video for FSD! It will go viral IMO!

[@GEB1974]

Keep up the great content. Question where did you get your shirt? Huge big foot fan.

[@oldbarnmenagerie2783]

It's all great until clouds of nighttime bugs get plastered onto the car exterior, covering the cameras?

[@fanniinnanetguy653]

@@oldbarnmenagerie2783 Wouldn't be any worse than humans in the same situation.

[@MatrixJockey]

I wish you guys would understand. A neural network is what underpins LLMs like ChatGPT and Claude. FSD always required it. They just never were transparent about this.

[@4raineys]

On V12 I have had the exact same situations with right turn on red and school speed limit zones and also that left turn when the straight had a green light but I had a red left turn light in the car went. Again there is no direct safety concern but there were legal violations other than that my version 12 has been absolutely fantastic

[@oasiasoasiaso]

Important Video with superb suggestions from Hans 👍

[@khut2u]

I see a future where speed traps are a thing of the past, and police actually have to fight crime instead of generating revenue from tickets

[@Muffinman9]

Love the conversations. Wish your titles weren’t so fanboyish tho.

[@Bunyip_Studios]

From a UK perspective it seems V13 is fine! You guys need to drive within the law!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😋 Great video Farzood lol Hopefully by the time I can get a Tesla we will have FSD here

[@brandongrenier1141]

Thank you for interviewing all the beta testers! Joystick idea was good until Chuck torn it apart 😂

[@picoallen]

I'm amazed by the leeway your police give you for speeding. In Australia it's 2km/hr if you are going less than 100km/hr (60 miles/hr). 3km/hr if above 100km/hr. And there are speed cameras everywhere. One huge benefit of FSD would be not having to constantly worry about exceeding the limit accidentally.

[@JasonThomas-hj5zk]

These videos have taught me that I'm apparently the only human that actually comes to a complete stop at stop signs.

[@grahamsiebring5227]

My issue isn’t the stopping part, but rather stopping too far back from an intersection. But the issue with that is more about sign placement. Having to stop, creep forward to actually see, then go is silly. Makes the “stopping” part totally pointless.

[@roberthooper2949]

I have been driving my Model Y for seven months and just put FSD on the car last night. Uh huh... Driving 10 MPH over tyhe speed limit in Washington State will get you a speeding ticket. I found this video today and am now really looking forward to FSD V13. Hopefully by December 22 if anyone is listening?

[@rcarmack]

55:01 I think it would be interesting to see Tesla promote FSD by offering free months of premium connectivity (low cost them) in exchange for “300 to 500 miles driven on FSD” so that there is a goal for the customer, but also a benefit to both Tesla and the customer

[@davec2211]

I think Kaz from Cybrlyft deserves to be included in the all time testers imo - he's covered many 10's of thousands of miles of testing in FSD over it's evolution

[@bluetoad2668]

Anyone else noticed that when parallel parking auto park ignores any and all objects or obstructions which are opposite to the space where you are parking. You have to make sure you have lots of space over there - so if it's a narrow road for example it's a bit of a nightmare as it will hit a curb, another car, anything really

[@johnd01]

I have been in FSD jail thrice in 25,000 miles of freeway driving in 30 states. It is really hard to keep the car thinking I am paying attention when all I am doing is staring at the truck or empty road in front of me. Most of these freeways have very little traffic. The car does not know what to do if an emergency vehicle with red lights and sirens is behind it. I would like to know more about getting kicked out of FSD.

[@elviswsjr]

Stop signs are not necessary for most intersections. Just look at how other countries do it. Most of the time a yield sign would be fine and then slowing down but not stopping would make sense.

[@TryThinkingDeeper]

Seems like the thinking is starting to work in parallel, where prior it was very much in series. The GPUs in HW4 are finally functioning at a higher volume!

[@Spudz89]

Lived in Jersey my whole life. Can confirm that drivers are fucking insane.

[@mfpears]

19:10 Utah too

[@richardtorres6261]

Try driving in California. Most drivers here do not have patients and drive way over the speed limit. Also, thanks for this video.

[@JaceTran]

Really excited to get V13 FSD for my model 3 Highland

[@davidrossi1486]

I would never get in a car with any driver who occasionally said “I don’t know what I’m doing, please take over“ .

[@PeterHollens]

Love you @farzad But, Go DUCKS!!!

[@michaelbennett5184]

Listening to everyone talking about speed limits and cops not targeting you for 10mph over the limits hurts my soul as an australian 😭 we get done for 5kph over, about 2 or 3 mph 😂. And it's by an unmarked van with a camera in it 🎉

[@ryanwelsch9384]

Chris is wrong about loosing control of the max speed limit in FSD V12. It was selectable to use it in the Autopilot settings (Auto set max/user selectable).

[@voycodin5042]

As I said elsewhere, if it can relieve my daily 25 mi mostly highway commute by even 10%, it’s a no brainer for me. I’ll be waiting for the next iteration of model Y and will decide between a 3 or Y.

[@bladerunner6282]

don't forget the source of the knowledge from which FSD get's its instruction... it's from videos of people driving. and people DO turn right on red at locations where signs are placed to prevent it. and people DO turn left from straight-ahead lanes to prevent further dangerous congestion. so the precedent has been set by the "instructors". and they are just videos of people driving responsibly. at least i HOPE that the videos are being edited for safe driving habits! makes perfect sense. remember...there is no code in FSD that specifically addresses any particular series of driving situations, it's all, in essence, about mimicry.

[@2-jb]

Robo will likely be rolled out on an ever expanding grid IMO. And likely sooner than expected by using existing inventory.

[@tlz8884]

The wife's verdict is the holy grail to valuing FSD progress

[@TheSpartan3669]

Disengagement/intervention rates are the most objective way to track progress.

[@delawarepilot]

Great for the 10 KZbinrs that got their hands on it. The rest of us are paying $100 a month for garbage software.

[@travisjazzbo3490]

Dirty Tesla is a good guy. A good midwestern Dude that cares about being a courteous driver

[@jablock1]

I totally agree, there’s a vast amount of information just on KZbin for anyone interested in AI and ML. Im one of those with a real fascination with AI. I have watched 100s hours of KZbin on ML over the years. It started with 3Blue1brown video on back propagation years in 2017. I watched so many great interviews, Yann Lecun, Andrew Ng, Andrew Karpathy, all the Lex Friedman interviews with leaders in AI. I watched some Stanford courses on graph theory. Studied transformer architecture, diffusion models. I love KZbin, I wish it was around when I was young. Theres so much great content on KZbin for anyone interested in almost anything! One thing with AI is it’s not easy, even if you’re a good engineer type.

[@RichardMauri]

Every trial I've tried scares the sh9t out of me as it hugs left side of lane on windy roads with trucks that often cross the line.

[@goldreverre]

Rather than a free trial for a month, they could offer some set number of free FSD drives or X minutes of driving on a new version release.

[@TXCraig]

So do "testers" that give a bad reivew get booted from the program?

[@zonkerpro]

Maybe offer a couple free supercharger sessions? If u used FSD for 20 minutes or more...

[@rukiddingme7]

Can it do drive thru at any fast food or coffee shops?

[@section31]

Why do some people believe in unsupervised fsd, yet all my friends and I who actually use fsd know it’s like 20 years out.

[@hakanstuns43]

It improves exponentially. And V13 seems great wait when it 3x, 3x, 3x again then its solved. Its all about data and compute.

[@quanmedley6839]

@@section31 then you dont understand how the software works so you should educate yourself

[@R56Cooper]

How will FSD handle emergency road closures where the intersection ahead is closed and drivers have to turn around and go the other direction.?

[@chillguy2758]

It’ll reverse

[@ehuna]

How would you handle it?

[@hakanstuns43]

It will handle it like a human when it got enough data from those situations. It takes time for the last 1% safety and complicated stuff.

[@alexian81]

Regarding about how to get people test it, incentives most likely will work, but, stuff like “improved, latest, greatest version yet…” are a double sword. Just wait for it to screw it and the drivers will go: “your greatest version yet got me a 100 dollars ticket” or “brake so hard and smashed me in the windshield”. Hard to say that it would be an incentive to try the next improved version.

[@drayc48]

Any idea when cyber truck will get version 13?

[@Helloworld1128]

Still lots of issues, especially when construction workers need to stop cars to get a huge truck out on the road

[@DC-yh2oy]

And you've seen this on v13 where?

[@grahambartlett5742]

New Trial: When they release a new trial it should be for my particular AI hardware, for instance I have Hardware 3, dont release a new trial for me until Version 13 is available Hardware 3.

[@BLAISEDAHL96]

We need James Douma STAT!!

[@arndt3203]

great show, thank you

[@rich1383yt]

I’m wondering how long until HW3 cars get it, and in what shape (how good) it will be?

[@craigmitchell3477]

roundabouts instead of traffic lights would solve all problems and increase traffic flow

[@keesvisser1504]

Seems like it feels like there’s a invisible professional driver that is taking over. I hope it comes to Europe soon.

[@aaronb7990]

1:35 Aren't they the only ones with the 'snapshot' button.

[@Solflex]

We need 13.2 to come to Europe ASAP! Flemming Denmark

[@hakanstuns43]

Agree! Otherwise EU will lagg. Its very important that we get it. 2025 i think. Would be insane if not.

[@himmtheguy]

Lets hope not, hopefully the EU introduces regulations to prohibit it.

[@BertVanMullem]

I don't fully understand why @DirtyTesla says unsupervised can be ready soon, but real robotaxi is still way off. The car not going into reverse in some situations seem like a small thing compared to what V13 is able to do. And if there are idd very strange situations, I think idd Tesla will have a few hundred remote drivers to help out the million robotaxis.

[@mfpears]

21:20 Dude, I've driven in 28 states in the past year, and NO, cops will NOT pull you over for 8-10 over. Unless you're in a 20 mph zone. Then they actually enforce the law even 4-5 over.

[@W020-j9o]

I live where there are roads through mountains. (V12) Many times I have lost FSD and navigation completely in areas with hills alongside the car. I am assuming that this is a problem with GPS reception. How can even a perfect FSD overcome this kind of problem?

[@hakanstuns43]

Needs data from those kind of roads and it take times.

[@iKaGe01]

Because it has learnt from human drivers, it seems to want to run the stop signs but then must be hard coded to stop as some videos seemingly seem to go slow then brake to a stop

[@jmbpr1v8]

The Cybertruck has far, far less actual (not simulation) training data than the other Tesla models at this time. Consequently, there is an FSD performance gap with the Cybertruck. I'm expecting that gap to decrease as more actual training data is collected.

[@MikeHewitt]

How do you guys think Tesla will fix the occasional issue with sun glare in the cameras? Humans squint and our pupils dilate. I think it was Chuck who had one intervention on V13 from this. I would really appreciate your thoughts on this. Thanks for your amazing content 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@iainmrodgers9991]

I wonder if a polarizing lens would help.

[@6681096]

A couple people commented that a haze builds up on the front camera possibly due to off gassing. Some cleaned it themselves and others had service do it. AI driver said he didn't have the issue so maybe it is something fixable like haze causing the light to refract

[@gsmith2520]

​@@iainmrodgers9991 I have had that idea. Affix a polarized film over the front cameras. If applied on the outside of windshield, hopefully sticky stuff on the film would be sufficient to keep the wipers from tearing it off windshield.

[@hakanstuns43]

@@gsmith2520 Maybe the software needs more data on sun glare. If just put a polarized filter I think software can do it too.

[@jablock1]

These guys are anthropomorphizing the FSD which from a technical point of view is as useful and accurate as saying lightning is caused by the sky gods being angry. Good for banter, that’s about it. I would love to understand how FSD really works, but you need to be at the table with the architects at Tesla doing the design to get there.

[@6681096]

Today's AI is very different than hand coded computer software. The majority of experts in the field agree that today's AI does not think or understand in the way humans do. Nonetheless, a number of researchers believe that while AI does not understand in a human sense, it exhibits a form of functional intelligence. This means AI can perform tasks that require a level of problem-solving and adaptation, which can be seen as a type of intelligence.

[@jablock1]

I agree, machine learning is totally different. It’s a mathematical construct, not a combination of loops and conditional statements like non ML coding. It’s very important to understand what ML systems are doing, but the kind of analysis here is not rigorous and useful to understand a system like FSD. This concept that ML systems like FSD are thinking is not rigorous, understanding FSD would require mathematical analysis which is hard, anthropomorphizing is easy, but ignores the actual reality of what the system is, it’s a complicated mathematical framework.

[@dylanthomas12321]

​@@jablock1 You should hit the books or take a few classes at MIT, Stanford etc. They are available. These guys are not software engineers.

[@jablock1]

@@dylanthomas12321 I did watch the first few lectures of CS224w from Stanford on graph theory which give an idea of how ML can apply to predictions in the context of a graph network, which satisfies my casual interest. I can see how that class is the roots of where systems like alpha fold came from. Lectures are great for gaining knowledge. I have even used ChatGPT to ask questions about LLMs that I had when I was looking into that. It was an amazing resource because it answered my questions that were very specific, something I would ask a professor or classmate that I couldn’t get from watching a video. So there’s that resource too. I wish I was 25 years younger and in college now, I could learn so much more productively!

[@TeslaElonSpaceXFan]

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[@DEWAYNE552]

My comment is about customer incentives to try FSD free. Load a version of chat to offer the driving option?

[@davehowe6048]

Can someone show a video of it in narrow country lanes with oncoming traffic

[@markcandlin2635]

Yea, be impressed if this worked in the UKs rural roads, sometimes single lane with passing places,

[@c1ark3c]

@@markcandlin2635 and reversing at high speed with a tractor chasing you.

[@davidb7381]

Watch Dirty Tesla. He lives on a narrow gravel road in rural Michigan, so he also has snow.

[@richardtibbetts4946]

AI Drvr has videos of hilly 1.5 lane roads above San Francisco.

[@davehowe6048]

Thanks I’ll watch it