There was a point where you told your audience they can watch your videos to escape from their problems and for entertainment. I just wanna say that I do both, your channel is not only my favorite KZbin channel but it helps me when I need to take my mind off of life. So thank you for your content.
@dazbeal5438 Жыл бұрын
i agree totally
@Larsbutb4d3 жыл бұрын
Timestamps: 0:00 Chapters 0:32 Intro 0:36 McMillon's Madness 3:14 Darwin's Death 5:30 Prince or Pauper? 7:35 Banksy's Dinner Party 9:05 Dubious Dali 11:47 Escape from Alcatraz 13:56 App Attack 15:40 Dark Secret 17:42 Kentucky Fried Tunnel 19:04 Diamonds are for Stealing 22:56 Shawshank Shocker 25:49 Numbers Up 28:40 Outro
@mrsweat16743 жыл бұрын
Who got the time to do rhis
@riverwerewolfswerewolfie10053 жыл бұрын
@@mrsweat1674 People with a day off
@spaceotter-seesu80993 жыл бұрын
?
@paper87693 жыл бұрын
@@thatspacedude1566 wat
@CallMe_StarDust3 жыл бұрын
@@thatspacedude1566 I know what u mean 😳
@Tom-S19813 жыл бұрын
If you're gonna fake your own death, then you need to lay down some strict rules before hand. One of those being NOT taking photos whilst you're on holiday lol
@Diffwelfart2 жыл бұрын
Noted *fake death*
@Allantitan2 жыл бұрын
I don’t even wanna ima how angry their kids were when they found out
@1tgb4yb25ub5ub2 жыл бұрын
noted
@Cat-y2o Жыл бұрын
@job m no they did not say that bad human or alien idk
@adamb89 Жыл бұрын
Faking your death isn't hard, it's creating a new life that fucks you. Because what is life if you can't go out and enjoy it? It's the act of living that second life that gets people caught, moreso than the faked death. The trick is to create a new life that is so insulated from your old one that you CAN take photos while on holiday, and feel safe doing so. And don't ask me how either, because if I knew the answer to that I'd corner the market on people trying to get out of debt.
@obi-wankenobi11592 жыл бұрын
For the Alcatraz one, there were actually 4 people with the idea. But only one failed to escape and just sat in his cell when a guard came by.
@emirvielmas32232 жыл бұрын
Oh my obi wan
@obi-wankenobi11592 жыл бұрын
@@emirvielmas3223 Hello there.
@emirvielmas32232 жыл бұрын
General kenobi
@venomouscatchicken2080 Жыл бұрын
Cool, will you sub name is @venemous cat chicken
@joeljustjazzing Жыл бұрын
Tf?
@oliviastratton21693 жыл бұрын
Greed will get you every time. That first police officer guy could have easily made a few hundred thousand with the help of some friends and family, bought a rental property, and lived comfortably the rest of his life. Instead he decided to go full crime-ring and ruined his whole life.
@lesliebean45943 жыл бұрын
True. Greed got him. I was actually surprised though to hear he only got 3 years and his fine was less than he stole.
@BeAmazed3 жыл бұрын
absolutely
@riverwerewolfswerewolfie10053 жыл бұрын
Your actually lucky for him to comment right now
@oliviastratton21693 жыл бұрын
@@BeAmazed Wow, I can't believe you replied to my comment! I'm truly honored.
@jayzb0mb3 жыл бұрын
Your cool 😎
@Sirkento2 жыл бұрын
My first gut instincts for Alcatraz was that they died at Sea, then I had another thought. I bet they knew they could not make a raft that would actually get them safely to shore so instead they did that to convince all of the guards that they were not on the grounds anymore and they probably Slipped Away disguised as prisoner Transporters when another shipment of prisoners was brought in.
@theshredder912 жыл бұрын
That actually makes a lot of sense
@karandeol72832 жыл бұрын
They were 3 guys that actually escaped through the raft and one of them died in strong currents that broke their raft but 2 managed to escape and in 2012 fbi got a letter which was from one of escaped and he told that his second partner died due to old age and he was also old now and had cancer and he literally asked for treatment then walk free afterwards to show himself and he gave proof in letter that he was telling truth but that was the first and last time they heard from him(maybe died). There’s a full video on this story
@theshredder912 жыл бұрын
@@karandeol7283 that makes even more sense and matches up with the broken raft. I'll have to find a video on it later.
@DAHLIA_THE_DRAGON2 жыл бұрын
The escape from alcatraz is the same way you escape pelican rock in poptropica which is a game I played all the time as a kid. So that's kinda cool how they reference a famous escape
@jman96283 жыл бұрын
I love these videos! I’ve learned so much about North Korea and Darwin awards that make me feel a little smarter than those examples. Haha
@alicerandall94423 жыл бұрын
It makes me feel 🤓 too
@jman96283 жыл бұрын
@@alicerandall9442 dry true!
@AlvoGGaming213 жыл бұрын
Watch bright side on KZbin
@jeanrodriguez20783 жыл бұрын
@@AlvoGGaming21 fake weird channel
@Igotbannedagaintf3 жыл бұрын
Fr
@u78iw473 жыл бұрын
Man, the story of the heist is thrilling, these type of stories are what I like tbh
@ArrowMaster_3 жыл бұрын
3:08 So he stole a price worth 24m$ and had to pay 12m$ and 3 years of prison. So after 3 years, he can just leave with 12m$??
@PhonePhone-sf8te3 жыл бұрын
yep
@kieronparr34033 жыл бұрын
He sold them for less than face value.
@sourcesub23513 жыл бұрын
What you can take, you can earn it..
@kieronparr34033 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he's not sitting on millions
@fionalynchehaun64112 жыл бұрын
They shouldve taken it all
@trendyinsight90803 жыл бұрын
Those prison escape are just crazy insane and how they did it! Don't think you be able to do that anymore in this day and age.
@woodworkingandepoxy643 Жыл бұрын
People still escape today with even more security than they had back then
@adamb89 Жыл бұрын
@@woodworkingandepoxy643 Not from supermax prisons though, like ADX Florence. In the nearly 30 years since it was built, not one single escape. That's why stories like this get such massive attention, because it's so outlandish. It's not like walking off a work detail in a medium security state prison or something.
@woodworkingandepoxy643 Жыл бұрын
@@adamb89 yeah but supermax prisons aren't the only ones there are. Maximum security is a step below and still has escapes. Supermax shouldn't even be brought up, that's a step below insanity
@dextermorgan13 жыл бұрын
The US Marshals have reopened the case on the escapes from Alcatraz. There is very good evidence they made it to land alive, and lived the rest of their lives outside of jail. True story.
@streetcatbr19632 жыл бұрын
youtube addict and news addict
@Soulfin2 жыл бұрын
Yo that’s actually interesting! Thanks for telling.
@ro4eva3 жыл бұрын
I'm 99% certain that the Alcatraz escapees survived and lived in South America. Yeah, I admit, the thought of it having been successful is somewhat thrilling.
@mollystrack79022 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, the Anom app that the security used for trapping bad guys is absolutely incredible! 🤣
@Gforce133710 ай бұрын
I agree
@beargaming804210 ай бұрын
sure
@disa2312 Жыл бұрын
There was actually a really interesting "prison break/burglary " in Iceland once: two inmates escaped during the night, broke in to a jewelry store or a bank (I can't remember which) they stashed the loot and then broke back in to prison 😅 no one would have ever figured out who committed the burglary if not for their one accomplice (who's only job was to leave them a car close to the prison to use once they got out) hadn't blabbed 😂
@OccasusRaven2 жыл бұрын
If people remember, the Mythbusters proved that the raft made of raincoats works and can reach the shore. So I have always believed that the boys did escape the island and disappeared. They did not drown as some claim.
@ZorotheGallade2 жыл бұрын
It's true that they were criminals and rooting for them isn't quite right, but one can't help being impressed when people defy such great odds.
@TheLithp Жыл бұрын
Can doesn't mean it's likely or that it did.
@woodworkingandepoxy643 Жыл бұрын
@@TheLithp the fbi got a letter from one of the anglin brothers in 2012 with proof it was him
@metarcee2483 Жыл бұрын
"Wait, was that a guard? Oh, no." BANGBANGBANGBANG!!!!
@KatlynJShute2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the Alcatraz escape: Josh Gates from expedition unknown did an espisode to test the rumor they survived with help from the mob and made their way to Brazil where they went legit and became local farmers, married, and lived out their lives without committing any further crimes (that they are suspected of) a photo that was verified to be taken after the escape of two men standing next to an ant hill mound with a lake in the background matched the brothers by over 98% by several different independent companies, there were also suspected letters written to the brothers families that we contained details of the escape, Josh partnered with a former FBI agent who both agreed it is as close to a verified story as we can get without finding the men if they are still alive, find their graves and do DNA testing, or some other proof. They even interviewed a family member of the brothers who had the letter and he went with them to Brazil. Of course we don’t have any 100% proof but in my opinion it’s the closest we will ever get to solid proof they survived. The episode is is incredibly interesting. I highly recommend checking it out.
@laughytaffy11393 жыл бұрын
Okay so let’s just say he has the best KZbin channel in the world of the internet
@GlorifiedGremlin2 жыл бұрын
That McDonald's guy made out like a bandit. Basically 3 years in prison in exchange for 11.5 million dollars. He made 24, they only took half. I'd do 3 years in prison for 11 million lol
@benjaminboyte9213 Жыл бұрын
That might be how much the scam made total not just his part
@blc28x3 жыл бұрын
This makes me want to re-play all those years of McDonald’s monopoly
@EndAplayz3092 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Raviel8912 жыл бұрын
It makes me regret all those years eating McDonald's. I would be much more healthy than I am now.
@blc28x2 жыл бұрын
@@Raviel891 that’s some truth too
@southernbrain6912 жыл бұрын
@@Raviel891 sugar went brrr on you i guess.
@brandynamite30223 жыл бұрын
The real elaborate plots are the ones we don't know about
@pjplayz54482 жыл бұрын
4:26 you thought you were reeeaal slick putting that breakng scene in there huh? 😂 lol
@namelesscreator21082 жыл бұрын
No matter how bad it is, sometimes you have to sit back and respect the cleverness of the plans
@missraye71653 жыл бұрын
I mean.. if I had the opportunity to get myself a win, in a competition that's rigged so you can't.. I would give it a go lol
@BeAmazed3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I think the guy in the video's mistake was taking it way too far!
@missraye71653 жыл бұрын
@@BeAmazed exactly, greed is what gets them all. Also, you're the first KZbinr to EVER respond to one of my comments on their video, *flattered* !! So pumped about it, thank you!!! ❤️😘 Amazing content, always.
@shawnneice43223 жыл бұрын
As would I. But I would stop once I could get a decent home in the country.
@danissdiary2 жыл бұрын
Right it’s always the greed that’s gets em caught up
@Christos_G73 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Greece. Amazing video again. Thank you for the everyday videos.
@2006GAMINGINC2 жыл бұрын
Love the video but could u please continue the abandoned car series it's been a blast watching those in fact u are the only one making them and actually make sense
@michaelkettle67583 жыл бұрын
Yes a new video hi from England by the way or should I say hello mate!
@abdirahmanhassan29743 жыл бұрын
I love these vids! You really will BE AMAZED😲
@henrybooker66113 жыл бұрын
Make a part 2 to this it's really exciting
@theskray26532 жыл бұрын
Fact i learned today right before watching the video, although the convicts who escaped from alcatraz were declared dead by the head of the fbi at the time (who was the fonder of alcatraz btw), police investigators and fbi agents were still looking for them. Funny enough after the event Clarence and John Anglin's mother kept receiving flowers from "joe and jerry" for her birthday, even though she never met any joe or jerry
@Jacobmarles2 жыл бұрын
I love that you give us info I love your channel so much🥰
@LuciferMorningstar-zu1ud6 ай бұрын
Also I’m a huge fan (huge might be an understatement) of Dalí. Dedicated my whole left arm to different pieces of his artwork. Definitely my fave tats that I have for sure 🤘🏼 ⏱️ 🐘 💭 🎨
@shady84792 жыл бұрын
This was the most enthralling Vid I have ever seen, need more .
@iamaturtle76993 жыл бұрын
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@RealCCre9 ай бұрын
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@OfficialAXEPvpBedrock9 ай бұрын
Its 2y ago lol
@karandeol72832 жыл бұрын
Alcatraz Story- They were 3 guys that actually escaped through the raft and one of them died in strong currents that broke their raft but 2 managed to escape and in 2012 fbi got a letter which was from one of escaped and he told that his second partner died due to old age and he was all alone now, also old and had cancer and he literally asked for treatment then walk free afterwards to show himself and he gave proof in letter that he was telling truth but that was the first and last time they heard from him(maybe he died). There's a full video on this story.
@GTOverProof6 ай бұрын
No fraudulence in my Amazement! You've done it again Bart!!
@frankhurst9665 Жыл бұрын
Life hack! Steal $25,000,000. Go to federal prison for 3 years. Pay $12.5 million fine. Keep $12.5 million.
@threed3333 жыл бұрын
I love your videos,and I am always looking for what you upload next.Love your work!Keep doing what you do!❤
@user-ts3tl8dp5s3 жыл бұрын
how has this man not run out of video ideas
@BigLug012 жыл бұрын
As Ralph Wiggum once said, “lies are like stars, they always come out.”
@beanmasterz2 жыл бұрын
Lies are like homophobes, they always come out
@MyMystikMusings2 жыл бұрын
This was some juicy stuff. They're all so good but the bank heist (King of Keys) is my favorite.😁
@janedoe6121 Жыл бұрын
Execution... for stealing money...that's honestly horrible... no matter how much they stole, that isn't right... it's horrifying D:
@pattistahl78143 жыл бұрын
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@bepyn4ik3 жыл бұрын
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@Michael.Nietzsche.Macucows3 жыл бұрын
Yeah true!!!
@Chillgolfer96642 жыл бұрын
The saddest story have to be the David sweat because of course he did shoot the first shot but but his friends possibly killed one of the police men or beaten him up (I forget) but it feels so sad that he should’ve been free at a certain time instead for life.
@kevinchang617 Жыл бұрын
Actually for the Shawshank Shocker one, Joyce Mitchell didn’t get cold feet during the escape. She actually suffered from chest pains and ended up going to the hospital.
@nathanlynch9634 Жыл бұрын
I always love watching your channel.
@alexbanville-smith6072 жыл бұрын
Every time you say to subscribe i think : I watched one video and I liked, subscribed and turned on the notification bell!😂
@aprilsmith65582 жыл бұрын
I love this video and all the videos are so unique, useful and the hard work put into the video
@dojadaddy58573 жыл бұрын
Always an amazing way to relax on a day off, amazing post is always.
@BeAmazed3 жыл бұрын
thanks so much, really glad you enjoy the content 😊
@Yan-Shou3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@overtale7254 Жыл бұрын
the story of Prince Khalid Bin Al-Saud sounds like a really twisted version of Aladdin
@prokorshopal48653 жыл бұрын
0:00 - Hi BA. 👋 5:22 - 625th like from me. 👍 Cheers.
@olatherhymer16813 жыл бұрын
Sadly I'm not a kid anymore indeed... BA with his funny catchphrases
@fyshyta1272 жыл бұрын
the symbol you used as the love triangle i have tattooed behind my ear, it’s the symbol for adoption 💜🔮✨
@newwirgesball7 ай бұрын
You know your American when the fbi launches a full scale investigation for McDonald's.
@masterjohn88612 жыл бұрын
This channel is so good with facts❤
@albeeh63162 жыл бұрын
It's a quantum mechanics mystery: you can't get away with what society has created for its own use and goodness....
@randomfurrymanintheinternet2 жыл бұрын
i love the fact that guy on the thumbnail poses like my mom when she realizes she lost an argument against my dad lmao
@QuintonJenkins-xg6jy7 ай бұрын
@12:00 its rebirth island
@bilinics2433 жыл бұрын
You videos are awesome!
@thatgirlthatlikesninjago90632 жыл бұрын
I love your content it's filled with facts even facts that I knew and don't know I love watching your videos keep up the amazing content
@Benji172002 жыл бұрын
13:55 there is an entire tv show that discusses it and their verdict was yes the escaped
@Epic_Gamer15212 жыл бұрын
you're on a hitlist now
@kunkka53 жыл бұрын
3:15 I will never know what it feels like to miss someone very much but not to have any more contact with them
@ajaynes887111 ай бұрын
There was a man in Australia that wrote a letter asking for a pardon years after the escape. US authorities were so convinced nobody survived they ignored it. In the early 2000's a documentary/ investigation did an age progression of the escapees and the man was one of the brothers.
@PedroPerez-mh6hs3 жыл бұрын
25:36 Wait so Joyce's time is almost up then right
@ChargerPlays2 жыл бұрын
There Was Actually A Story Of How The Brothers Visited Their Fathers Funeral Anonymous And Then Left, Also Apparently The Other Died Of Hyperthermia On The Way To Mainland San Francisco
@Wreckz_Tea2 жыл бұрын
Comeon speeeeddddyyyyy! You're slippin dawg
@Hendock_The_Legendary_Saiyan2 жыл бұрын
19:52 Thank god the gta online casino hiest didn't have this much security
@beanmasterz2 жыл бұрын
Good thing they only hire guards with myopia and tunnel vision
@youloveittho17233 жыл бұрын
Guy makes 24 million, gets caught and gets a 12.5 million fine and 3 years jail? I'll take that.
@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman3 жыл бұрын
Everybodys in it
@NoNameEst19923 жыл бұрын
Don't think it works like simple maths. It isn't just 24 million minus 12.5 million Think how much he had spent over them years, he may not have even had 12.5 million left for all we know. Also what if he bought a big house with expensive bills and overheads, how we keep up with paying, especially from in jail. Just a couple examples to make my point that it may not be necessarily be worth it. He could've done 3 years jail time and had nothing when he came out. There have been much richer people who have gone bankrupt from much more stable financial positions.
@antisocialmedia_03 жыл бұрын
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@benjaminboyte9213 Жыл бұрын
I think the 24 million was the total for the scam not just his part
@Banksy-vf4dp Жыл бұрын
Ye bro I’m watching the vid fr!
@zarifshoeb2 жыл бұрын
The first one was outrageous to say the least !!! Out of the 24 mil, he kept 11.5 mil to himself after fining and just 3 years in prison ? Not to mention he deprived the people who could’ve won those tickets.
@benjaminboyte9213 Жыл бұрын
I think the 24 million might be the total for the scam not how much he individually received
@gagewalters96632 жыл бұрын
15:24 . Did they FBI care to inform or protect people with the hits placed on them? I wonder
@danissdiary2 жыл бұрын
Right! I was hoping they got them before anyone could get hurt
@dathomirhae4 ай бұрын
the casual inclusion of footage from reichenbach falls as if it were not the most traumatizing thing for 12-year-old me-
@blazing_dragon16643 жыл бұрын
Aaand another super cool Video
@s9hayes2 жыл бұрын
About the Alcatraz case, I'm pretty much certain that they escaped. First they had at least a bit of training, since theyve gone up to the roof more than once for an observation of the guards routine etc, so they could have make it if they're raft hadnt make it. Second it could also be that they purposely had stripes of those jackets over for faking the death. I mean it's a fact they knew that someone will look for them in the near Future.
@Antsaboy94 Жыл бұрын
_"Trying your luck doesn't always work,"_ in other words _"Quit while you're still ahead."_
@lostline40073 жыл бұрын
That Ren guy in the last one really could have gotten away with the stealing money and replacing it scheme had he quit trying at the lottery thing at win 2. Greed and hasty decisions will get you every time in complex plans that require, oh I don't know, not being greedy or hasty???
@AaronVerner10 ай бұрын
Pen (from bfdi) at 5:14 "man i really hope i can get my 4 indevigintillion dollar debt off me with this guys channel"
@baliyae2 жыл бұрын
As a former cop, you’d think Mr. Jacobson would realize what he was doing wasn’t right. But, because he was blinded by greed, the line between right and wrong was so blurry, it was nonexistent.
@sajidmusfik95743 жыл бұрын
Hey yoo love from BD 🇧🇩
@jimneycricket2 жыл бұрын
nice video mate
@dontbesosensitive39253 жыл бұрын
Frank morris, John and Clarence anglin got away. Perfect escape.
@shawnneice43223 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that Myth busters proved it is possible to make it in an exact replica of the raft
@gigachad62302 жыл бұрын
21:10 WHY IS EVERYTHING SO SUS THEESE DAYS?!
@fattmoleyTv3 жыл бұрын
24 million gained got 12.5 mil fine and 3 years in prison. so 11 mil for 3 years sentence (parole?) I'm in.
@benjaminboyte9213 Жыл бұрын
I think the scam made 24 million total, I don't think that was his individual cut
@TheParkAttendant2 жыл бұрын
An investigator interviewed family members some time later, and was shown a photograph sent annonomusly from south America. The investigator took a copy of the photo and using the postal stamp and found the exact location were the photo was taken. If I remember correctly it was in Venezuela. It is believed thy died of natural causes and buried under annonomus names.
@unknownp15063 жыл бұрын
Honestly I have that same desire for food rn, imma go dig a tunnel to my nearest KFC
@sweetboss1512 жыл бұрын
20:05 was anybody else thinking about the payday games
@drewsify5523 жыл бұрын
The heights sounds like something straight out of a movie
@Wreckz_Tea2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing anom stated right there in the privacy agreement that they could read any messages sent on the app. Nobody got time to read them things
@jonntischnabel3 жыл бұрын
Pretending you're a Saudi prince on Instagram is hardly fraud is it. The people gave him gifts.
@chiagz75382 жыл бұрын
He still impersonated a Saudi Prince and because of that people gave him money so he committed fraud
@thespermsharkthespermwhale19385 ай бұрын
7:06 eating pork??? Wow so specific! He could eat other haram meats e.g. eagle, seal, elephant, capybara (?) or crocodile
@jonntischnabel3 жыл бұрын
"criminals of all shapes and sizes" , were there any 60 metre long rhombus criminals? Or perhaps some 3 inch crooks shaped like a cricket bat?
@BeAmazed3 жыл бұрын
you're telling me you've never heard of the infamous 60 metre long rhombus criminal, Johnny the Rhombus? He's a real piece of work
@Myxtrns3 жыл бұрын
@@BeAmazed don’t get me started on Bonny the circle word around the block says he got shanked.....I guess what goes around comes around am I right?
@BeAmazed3 жыл бұрын
Bonny the Circle was only two days away from retirement...
@Myxtrns3 жыл бұрын
@@BeAmazed never ever talk about retirement on the shape street Rohhny the rectangle hunts em
@Spextre_092 жыл бұрын
@@BeAmazed I love you
@janvervios19212 жыл бұрын
I like your videos so much can you make more videos so i can learn everything hehehehe..😅😅
@janvervios19212 жыл бұрын
I sub to you cause your cool making at videos
@commander5640 Жыл бұрын
My mother was a teller at a bank and she caught her colleague stealing small amounts to feed his gambling addiction
@xalite38602 жыл бұрын
22:54 bruh that could be a plot of a movie in real life
@mortis-5062 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I just love that the king gets away lmao 😂
@MrBelles1042 жыл бұрын
3:02 This man stole $24 million and was sentenced to 3 years. If it was anyone else they would probably serve multiple decades.
@danissdiary2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to go there but it’s true if it was a black man I wouldn’t be surprised if it was 20 yrs no parole with a fine double that of which he stole!🤦🏾♀️
@benjaminboyte9213 Жыл бұрын
I think the scam made 24 million total. I don't think that was his cut alone.
@Chillgolfer96642 жыл бұрын
The most impressive heist of all time have to be Leonardo Notarbatolo and his gang to steal the most highest security casino at the time.
@Deltamon9372 жыл бұрын
little bit of a fun fact. in Australia the police can still access your phone no matter what, but they cant drive their cars into the bush as lots of police cars had been badly damaged. the police can even track you if need be because they can find the nearest phone tower that your phone had accessed. even if you dont have a sim card they can still track your phone through mobile towers. in australia the police can find you no matter what. and the gun laws are super strict after the port arthur massacre.
@hm57582 жыл бұрын
about the prison escapees I think I saw somewhere that they had written a letter in a paper that they were alive and living in an apartment, I don't know if it was true but given the date and their ages they didn't have much to lose