Back then, before everyone had a mobile phone, people would indeed use lighters (or even matches) to get through a dark area. I'm old enough to remember doing that myself as a teenager and you can see it in old movies too. In a way, it might be that mobile phones have saved us from a dozen other tragic fires by now.
@sysbofh3 жыл бұрын
@Natasha He is guilty - as the park and the agencies that turned a blind eye. Ate the very least he should have raised the alarm, not gone away quietly. I will not complain about the lighter - everybody did it, myself included. Torchlights on a mobile are a great thing! But he should have raised the alarm. Didn't even had to own it: just start screaming "fire", and warn whoever passed by him on the way out.
@OwenGee213 жыл бұрын
Hate to be that guy but mobile phones have caused just as many car accidents.
@OwenGee213 жыл бұрын
@UpNorth ahh ye beat me to it!
@dreadfulman51913 жыл бұрын
@UpNorth Contenders for the Darwin award. Anyone with half a human brain should know to always focus on the road while driving
@Zilkenian_Davenport3 жыл бұрын
Same. Also the use of candles in a blackout. Every house had at least a pack of candles ready in case of blackout, and we would keep them there for hours.
@calebcarpenter4213 жыл бұрын
I hate how often these stories end with some version of "and the people who could/should have prevented the whole thing faced no consequences and lived happily ever after."
@nyotamwuaji64843 жыл бұрын
Sadly that's how the world works. Good doesnt win all the time.
@calebcarpenter4213 жыл бұрын
@@nyotamwuaji6484 Yeah, but I don't have to be happy about it.
@rita27743 жыл бұрын
good doesn’t win the majority of the time*
@BaTonTwirLer933 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it comes down to who has money.
@andrewtaylor9403 жыл бұрын
This one was so so much worse. The people who should have prevented it faced no consequences. The troubled kid with a history of arson believed to start the fire was completely covered up and hidden from the public by the authorities. The Freaking Chairman of the Board of the NFPA, the National Fire Protection Association, the group that creates the fire safety standards, was hired as an expert witness by Six Flags to give incredibly controversial and rather fraudulent testimony that "Sprinklers Would have made no measurable difference in the outcome of this fire nor prevented loss of life". This very nearly shattered the NFPA as a viable safety organization. It would not be until years later that the victims families would discover that yes the authorities did in fact know exactly who the mysterious boy with the lighter in the Painters Cap and Motley Crew t shirt was, but opted to not even interview him. Everything, everyone involved in this was dirty and complicit from top to bottom. And nobody suffered any lasting consequences for the deaths of those kids. And perhaps the saddest thing was even those who faced trial and lawsuit. The Great Adventure Operators and Officers were probably less culpable than the local officials who failed to enforce proper fire code standards. And who covered up any and all local government involvement in either the inspections, the enforcement, or their knowledge of and failed supervision of the kid with the lighter. (according to at least one long retired Arson investigator I once spoke with, the Arson detectives knew exactly who the kid was from day 2. But were barred from even talking to him by the DA's office. Of course they knew him. He had already lit three f'ing schools on FIRE! But he was 14, and under the Juvenile System. And thus sealed.)
@victoriasteele60913 жыл бұрын
A few of the kids that died were friends of my dad. They were all on a school trip that day and due to a bad report card my dad wasn’t allowed to go on the trip. Later found out his friends died in the fire, crazy to think how a bad report card saved my dads life
@stevie-ray20203 жыл бұрын
You might not have been born if your dad had studied harder!
@donvito56473 жыл бұрын
Lies
@HospitalForSouls.X3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like my family. My great grandmother was supposed to be on the titanic, lol.
@rollinloudasf2 жыл бұрын
And so they said, things are meant to be for a reason..... 🙏🕯
@licialee2832 жыл бұрын
@don vito she’s not lying. The group of friends were on their senior trip with Franklin K Lane high school. A close friend of my mom’s was dating one of the boys at the time and my mom and her friend were supposed to go with them. But since they were also seniors at Grover Cleveland and their senior trip was also to six flags the following week they decided not to go. That being said after this happened they cancelled all school trips to six flags, idk how many years it took until schools started going again.
@Truckngirl3 жыл бұрын
No memorial marker. That figures. People have short memories. They always want us to forget. Thank you for shining light on these tragedies.
@ZacBrzuchalski3 жыл бұрын
Sadly true.... but there's a lot of people who won't forget..... some even scarred from this event. When my friend visited the park she said that there were was a bunch of people saying prayers or were silent as a remembrance for the 8 that died. Cyborg sits close to where The Haunted Castle entrance use to be..... nothing is on the actual site where the trailers use to sit.
@Truckngirl3 жыл бұрын
@@ZacBrzuchalski Good to know. Thank you.
@laurenhodges64113 жыл бұрын
The kids' high school has a plaque to memorialize them.
@jackmatthew18803 жыл бұрын
I kind of understand that. Airlines are unlikely to have memorials near the departure gates in airports. Theme parks have a similar approach.
@CrossedCoder3 жыл бұрын
Dead is dead, they won't know the difference
@spaceraptor66133 жыл бұрын
At first I was thinking it was really dumb to use a lighter to get through a building but then I kinda realized there probably shouldn’t be an attraction so dark that someone would need to do that
@michalaswindail7833 жыл бұрын
Or if they want it that dark people in it should be provided with none flammable lights, i.e. torches
@Griselda_Puppy3 жыл бұрын
@Michala *Torches? Are you from GB? Because if you're not and you say torches, a torch would be quite worse than a lighter. I say that, because in the US, a torch means an open flame on the end of a long stick. We refer to what those in GB call a torch, as a flashlight. Sorry if I didn't make sense!*
@nancyayers76693 жыл бұрын
Ppl. can b & act like fools at times! Some unthinking person (fool) thought, "Duhhh, can't see - ha! I know! I'll take this lighter outta my picket and ... WHOOSH!!"😁😜😵😳
@nighttail1013 жыл бұрын
@@Griselda_Puppy Yes, they mean a flashlight obviously 😂
@OhanaLulu3 жыл бұрын
@@Griselda_Puppy she said NON flammable lights, ie torches
@greenturtle6083 жыл бұрын
One of the victims, Tina, was one of my school friends. We were absolutely devastated when this happened. I still think of this today, almost 35 years later.
@lovebugkittie2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry about your friend, may she be in peace and bliss until you meet again ❤
@charlieirvin54232 жыл бұрын
I remember Tina because she went to Open bible Baptist Church in Williamstown Nj I went there too . it was a sad day on Sunday when Pastor Ridell or Pastor Morre Mentioned it in Church . But you Know she is Resting in Gods arms and In Heaven.
@scootermom17912 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Tina had a friend like you to keep her memory alive. It's so senseless when kids have to pay for the mistakes of others (ie no sprinkler systems etc) by losing their lives. 😥
@nathanblevins98702 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry for your lost.
@eaglefang86562 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your lost
@bigj54013 жыл бұрын
Being stuck in a maze that’s catching fire, literally sounds like a nightmare. That is awful. Rip to the victims and thanks for sharing!
@staringcorgi64753 жыл бұрын
The fire happened because some people lighted the castle on fire
@blueflare38483 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine how scared they must have been. It truly is awful.
@jaybee41183 жыл бұрын
@@staringcorgi6475 but the fire spread and killed because of how badly it was built and how poorly maintained it was.
@staringcorgi64753 жыл бұрын
@@jaybee4118 it made it worse
@jaybee41183 жыл бұрын
@@staringcorgi6475 yes, obviously, that’s my point.
@equarg3 жыл бұрын
I was watching a documentary on the “Triangle coat fire”. A quote I will never forget, “The fire code is not written in ink. It’s written in blood”.
@ncc74656m3 жыл бұрын
They say the same for traffic flow changes as well.
@the4tierbridge3 жыл бұрын
Uuuh, I think you're talking about the Triangle Shirtwaist (Blouse) fire.
@REXXSEVEN3 жыл бұрын
I see these comments on every single one of these videos talking about something written in blood....come on already. Its getting tired by now.
@buddywilliams56503 жыл бұрын
@@REXXSEVEN I completely understand. I guess it's a trendy like thing.
@buddywilliams56503 жыл бұрын
Please stop repeating yourself.
@stormbourbon83793 жыл бұрын
Those kids are the reason why there were safety lights that came on when the smoke alarm went off in the haunted house I was "scaring" in back in '99, and I thank them and hope that are at peace.
@georgeshelton62812 жыл бұрын
Did you notice that; there are states like Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, Florida, Georgia, Texas, North, and South Carolina have private Christian amusement parks? 🇬🇪 🤔 😳
@orangeismyfavoritecolor2 жыл бұрын
@@georgeshelton6281 Literally nobody asked
@okchun2 жыл бұрын
@@georgeshelton6281 like which
@georgeshelton62812 жыл бұрын
@@okchun That's the California 6 Flags amusement park.
@AleesaDellaRobbia2 жыл бұрын
Yes my house’s fire alarm went off even by too much dry ice. Which means its doing its job, even if slightly annoying (We ended up turning the fog machine off in that area to prevent it)
@TheBehemothGod3 жыл бұрын
Alternate Channel name pitch. "Here's why we have safety regulations"
@ikumuertehelminosizunamide97893 жыл бұрын
“Fascinating Bureaucracy”
@prismen55353 жыл бұрын
good one LOL
@Snezzleify3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Most of these accidents were preventable too.
@erickamcc17013 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard it said before that FAA regulations are often written in blood.
@Emiliapocalypse3 жыл бұрын
Heard the same about working on a construction site. Every single rule that exists is there because someone was killed or horribly maimed
@cherie77253 жыл бұрын
Fantastic consistent style. Calm voice, no annoying repetitive background sounds. Keep up the great work.
@iainwalker87013 жыл бұрын
there is a constant background music loop but think the volume is lower than it used to, so I don't find it distracting anymore. I do like the style of his videos.
@ccss55273 жыл бұрын
I like the loop it adds to creepy
@SoCalJellybean3 жыл бұрын
I know, I LOVE his voice and accent! It’s an eerie dichotomy of these horrifying stories being told in a soothing tone. 👍🏻
@EvanBear3 жыл бұрын
I love the consistency of this channel, I know exactly what to expect in the video and I enjoy that very much.
@rich_edwards793 жыл бұрын
The music is a royalty-free piece called 'Glass Pond' and I agree that it really adds to the ambience of the videos.
@mabybee3 жыл бұрын
Your channel has taught me to never go to any sort of theme park in New Jersey.
@mk2_Sateka3 жыл бұрын
come to germany..we have TÜV..they look at every.single.screw.and.scratch to make sure nothing happens. :D
@missm29253 жыл бұрын
Can’t pump your own gas there but no need for fire alarms in highly flammable buildings
@amberthesuperfox3 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats a good thing to live by new jersy is a.mess
@warcriminal41833 жыл бұрын
Stupid GP, it's totally safe, there are way more regulations now and attractions are inspected daily. You are more likely to die driving to the park
@mabybee3 жыл бұрын
@@warcriminal4183 good point. The way people in Jersey drive, I am more likely to die driving to the park.
@amydamjanovic91833 жыл бұрын
So sad that Six Flags didn’t think that these kids’ lives were worth the cost of a fire alarm.
@scottcook25683 жыл бұрын
How would that have changed anything
@pentiuman3 жыл бұрын
@@scottcook2568 I believe Amy (above) meant, a set of inexpensive fire (smoke) alarms may have brought the fact that there was a dangerous fire to the attention of the guests or the park officials a couple minutes sooner, allowing the guests to escape, and the park officials to gain control over the fire while it was small with a simple fire extinguisher, or the Fire Dept. got there a couple minutes sooner, that also could have meant the difference in a life or two. Ten smoke alarms and ten fire extinguishers would have cost maybe $200 - divide that by the 8 lives lost = $25 a life. Yeah, I think each of those kids are worth $25. Don't you? I think each of them are worth 25 million - and if the same fire happened today, the park may have to pay each family that amount each, considering their negligence! Edit: After writing this post, and thinking about those kids dying in the fire, it encouraged me to finally put up a set of fire alarms I bought myself almost 2 years ago that had been collecting dust, to replace defective ones - and putting good (expensive Duracell) batteries in existing ones. (I live alone and own my house so it was all my responsibility.) I encourage you to do the same, especially if someone else's life is your responsibility!
@johnstevens29723 жыл бұрын
@@scottcook2568 I guess there is stupid questions.
@sheeniebeanie25973 жыл бұрын
right?! or a sprinkler system! sprinklers save lives!
@IsleNaK3 жыл бұрын
In 1984?
@nickskidmore14373 жыл бұрын
The fact that there is no memorial, no matter how small, to where these young people lost their lives, is a disgrace.
@holdencross59043 жыл бұрын
Agreed. From what we have seen from his previous videos on parks that have had fatalities. They are respectful enough to have a memorial.
@lllexxlll36003 жыл бұрын
Ya, I hate that too. Quickly back to the business. Nothing happened and no one had to care.
@holdencross59043 жыл бұрын
@@lllexxlll3600 I’m guessing they didn’t have to sell or close down?
@anthonyarcanumsanctumregnu95513 жыл бұрын
Bad for business, I agree with you but I can see why they would rather time bury this just like the cyclone in Brooklyn. Another ride I have been on a dozen times but I can see why so many people have died or fallen out, all it has is a small bar by your knees and people stand up like morons and go handless for the big drop aka kill themselves. Rides need to be respected by the people enjoying them and the workers.
@melasnexperience3 жыл бұрын
They had one in the botanical gardens, but when they removed those for more ride space, they removed the memorial. That’s worse than not having one in the first place.
@denisewhite113853 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace to my friends from Franklin K Lane High School who died in that fire. We all miss you.
@paulzammataro71853 жыл бұрын
Belated Condolences to you. Very sorry.
@yankees293 жыл бұрын
RIP. My best friend’s grandma lives directly across the street from that school.
@HolyGoddessMotherAnne3 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace to your friends.
@ThrashinNSlashin3 жыл бұрын
My mom went to Franklin k lane. She decided not to go that day. she told me the day of the funerals she walked out of school with everyone else to attend and pay respects
@licialee2832 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace to them. My mom went to Cleveland but her friend was dating one of guys at the time and they were thinking about going with them on the trip but since Cleveland was going the following week they decided to skip it.I couldn’t imagine losing someone in such a terrible way at that age. I hope you continue to remember them and heal.
@joem30093 жыл бұрын
There may be no memorial, but i appreciate you taking the time to recite the names of the deceased. Memorialized now.
@tomdetemmerman4313 жыл бұрын
They could use the burned corpses for a new castle , it would be a huge gesture
@paulamccormack80363 жыл бұрын
@@tomdetemmerman431 it would also be a bit disrespectful
@tomdetemmerman4313 жыл бұрын
@@paulamccormack8036 It might be...
@uniquelyawesome96023 жыл бұрын
My mom was there, she was in line but she decided the line about 15 minutes before it happened was too long and went to lightning loops instead. When they were forced to leave, they told everyone everyone was okay. What happened was terrible and it shouldn’t be forgotten.
@chelseaeberhardt3 жыл бұрын
bro i’m so sorry
@ao17783 жыл бұрын
@@chelseaeberhardt I don't think you understood OP's comment...
@gangswagster3 жыл бұрын
@@ao1778 bro I'm sorry
@ao17783 жыл бұрын
@@gangswagster bro I'm sorry 😥
@gangswagster3 жыл бұрын
@@ao1778 u better be bro
@illnickdotcom3 жыл бұрын
"In Jersey everything is legal just as long as you don't get caught" - Bob Dylan
@brandonbartz37183 жыл бұрын
@Jim Allen exactly what I was going to say. What a load of nonsense
@nickwooden56613 жыл бұрын
@@brandonbartz3718 jersey just sucks
@pauly2603 жыл бұрын
“The Midwest is full of retards” - Toby Keith
@bigbeartanner3 жыл бұрын
@@brandonbartz3718 lol you must not know who bob dylan is bc all he spoke was nonsense, hell of a musician though
@brandonbartz37183 жыл бұрын
@@bigbeartanner I'm not sure you understood my comment, and of course I know who Bob Dylan is
@KattMurr3 жыл бұрын
I think its sad how people have to die or get hurt before saftey concerns are addressed. I hear this way too often....
@Crippler1013 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the quote "regulations are written in blood" is absolutely true
@REXXSEVEN3 жыл бұрын
@@Crippler101 same old repeated comment every video.
@mktrill3 жыл бұрын
I think it's human nature to think "this won't happen to me" until it does I'm sure that we all have done things that could have ended up in death but didn't and there arnt regulations against it untill one of us does die due to our actions some things like smoke detectors make sense to us now that have lived with them everywhere for so many years but in the 80's most people didn't find then necessary
@TheoneGodfather3 жыл бұрын
That’s the way it was back in the day. Survival of the fittest. It was that way in amusement parks, job sites, racing of all types. When I look at old pictures of race cars and they didn’t have roll cages and for a while even safety belts it makes me cringe.
@REXXSEVEN3 жыл бұрын
@@TheoneGodfather Well then, cringe no more.
@jkennaw43143 жыл бұрын
I just gotta say, I'm still so glad you decided to keep this background music. Everytime I see a new Fascinating Horror upload, that signature music starts playing in my head before I even click. It's a big part of what makes your channel great.
@radbrad11333 жыл бұрын
Same ❤️ I love his theme music!
@Gimpygladiator3 жыл бұрын
Oh whew. I'm not the only one!
@MsJeanneMarie3 жыл бұрын
I so agree!!
@Jane-yg3vz3 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the music from the witch season of American Horror Story.
@KattMurr3 жыл бұрын
Yes the music is absolutely perfect!
@emmetthowell899 Жыл бұрын
It’s such a small thing but I love that you always say the names of the victims, especially in this case where there is no memorial. We need to remember these individuals as people instead of just victims
@Vonn_Loren3 жыл бұрын
"Of course, the Haunted Castle had been in place for almost five years at the time of the disaster. Thus, somewhat stretching the the definition of 'temporary'." Public school kids who had to go to classes in supposedly "temporary" classrooms, awaiting a building expansion, for their whole high school career are aware of this stretched definition.
@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking3 жыл бұрын
"Temporary" - is exactly why 6 Flags WAS at fault. What kind of crappy lawyers failed to argue that?
@MsSwitchblade133 жыл бұрын
Yup!! My old highschool. Then when they finally got around to building, they knocked everything down and made buildings that look like prison. Lol So those temporary classrooms were temp until the whole school could be renovated. 🤦🏻♀️
@sarahwarnock27073 жыл бұрын
Yes fr! My entire 4 yrs of hs were spent in dusty old trailers that were so mouldy that both teachers and kids got sick!
@fleetcaptain59613 жыл бұрын
the highschool i graduated from was pretty big, it had three floors but still had about 10/15 classrooms outside of the building made out of trailer type metal structures. kinda funny how we had interactive blackboards in every single classroom but not enough space for all the students...
@happyfacefries3 жыл бұрын
Ain't that the truth.
@thesketchydude13153 жыл бұрын
oh god I remember actually reading of this one... those poor people, fire is such an awful way to go, I just hope it was quick for most :(
@6yjjk3 жыл бұрын
Gases from burning foam, I don't imagine they lasted long.
@petir20083 жыл бұрын
Imagine the parents, rising kid for 18 years only for them to die because greedy executives want to save a few bucks
@sleepnauthero3673 жыл бұрын
@@6yjjk I imagine those fumes definitely burned to inhale to begin with...
@Syclone00443 жыл бұрын
@@petir2008 Give me a break with this tired trope. “Greedy executives”. As if someone in a suit is personally there during construction, halting installation of a sprinkler system or something because of the cost. It’s like a drop in the bucket for the operating budget of a park this size. I guarantee no executive got a $10 Million bonus for skimping on fire hazards. They complied with the laws, besides.
@helensarkisian74913 жыл бұрын
I wonder what happened to the 13-year old. Is he still haunted by the idea of guilt even though he isn’t?
@deborahblackvideoediting869710 ай бұрын
I can't imagine the absolute horror of being in a dark maze, purposefully designed to keep you from finding an exit, and realizing there's a blazing fire. Utterly horrific. Those poor kids and their families. Disgusting that Six Flags wasn't held accountable.
@Hubcaps219Ай бұрын
of course they weren't held responsible. corporations always get away. god bless america i guess smh
@deborahblackvideoediting8697Ай бұрын
@@Hubcaps219 - It seems the only country that actively prosecutes people like that is Korea! Too bad so many others have gotten away with hurting innocent people - just to save a little money.
@idanceforpennies2813 жыл бұрын
"Temporary structure". One of the biggest loopholes out there.
@nancypollard45313 жыл бұрын
This was so heartbreaking when you stated reading the names and ages of the dead. Tragic!
@evamiller48863 жыл бұрын
These events are always harder for me to hear about when the victims are so young
@thethrowawaythatstayed70553 жыл бұрын
Right? And the ages being so young.
@moake893 жыл бұрын
I love that I’m not asked to like and subscribe. There is something so wholesome about not being asked to do it. This is the main reason I went ahead and liked and subscribed to the channel!
@georgeshelton62812 жыл бұрын
It's understandable that most of the tragedies; that take place at are, the Disneyland amusement parks. Since Disneyland is the most popular place ever; another thing is that, it's a public amusement park. Furthermore I also know this; it's very typical for a stone Atheist, to celebrate Halloween. Since Disneyland has, a haunted mansion ride.🎃 👻 🎃 ⚛ 🙄 😒 😑 😐 ⚛
@chrisakaschulbus49032 жыл бұрын
@@georgeshelton6281 I knew obama wouldn't make it in the state championship. He had no reason to be there and his coach was utterly useless. And now they're pushing their own agenda. The BBC themself are in on it.
@bonniehowell92062 жыл бұрын
Make sure to smash that like button! Smh
@dshmechanic2 жыл бұрын
Truth! A video's content alone should be reason enough to LIKE or SUBSCRIBE. We people, by human nature, generally do not like being told what to do. Prime example is how we react when a telemarketer selling windows calls right after sitting down to dinner. To me, it's an insult to my own intelligence when a stranger cold calls me and tells me I need what he's selling.....as if I am not smart enough to figure that out on my own? Don't call me....I'll call you, sir.
@georgeshelton62812 жыл бұрын
@@dshmechanic Did you notice that the first time I was taken to a, Christian amusement park was on the first day of 2014? Only my parents have always, chosen what's best for me. It's was also Duane G. Shelton, who has also chosen, what's best for me. Here's another thing about the L.A. Disneyland, this amusement park is the busiest. Especially when the, first day of the year arrives. I understand you that all public amusement parks, they're based on the freedom of religion. Such as be free to be, an Agnostic, a Jehovah Witness, a Hindu, or even a Catholic. Those are 3 examples, of which religion the person wants to be.
@lasura3 жыл бұрын
"Shall we build a mini castle for this attraction?" "Nah! Let's just put a bunch of trucks together and decorate with paper mache and foam!!! What could go wrong?!"
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
Not a damn thing for them. They call it a "temp structure" for 7 years and so can ignore ALL fire codes...Brilliant. They didn't pay out ANYTHING as I heard it.
@Syclone00443 жыл бұрын
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Didn’t you listen to the video? He explained they settled 7 of the 8 cases for $2.5 million each. If you can prove otherwise, post a link.
@JCBro-yg8vd3 жыл бұрын
The attraction was actually supposed to be there for just one year. But it was so popular they kept it around until the fire, but still insisted it was a "temporary structure" because of the trailers. And fire officials let them get away with it.
@AnnCooper333 жыл бұрын
@@Syclone0044 No, the park was not found at all responsible. It was the city/township that had to pay.
@JustKelso19933 жыл бұрын
@@AnnCooper33 Good, since they let the amusement park get away with doing what they did.
@SillyPuddy20123 жыл бұрын
These park/ride disasters always - always, come down to the same thing. A scumbag corporate entity pinching pennies and skirting regulations somewhere along the line. And always too disgraceful to admit wrongdoing or acknowledge the dead with a memorial of any kind. There is a special place in hell for suits.
@ssnowstarr49853 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's the worst because they're completely preventable. Sure freak accidents can happen but at least 90% of these types are because of some business wanting to cut corners and save a buck while fully aware they're not doing the right thing. Sick
@lisae7893 жыл бұрын
Ain't capitalism great😒
@B-263543 жыл бұрын
@@lisae789 In the grand scheme of things yeah it is. Accidents within the Soviet Union and CCP aren't much better, people in those nations were seen largely as a resources. The problem with fairly young people such as yourself is that you're naive to the world around you, often with little life experience.
@B-263543 жыл бұрын
@SingleParty USA I dunno what socialist nation would you consider of benefit to the general population? Cuba? Venezuela? Mainland China? I'm all open to ideas here. The truth is the very fact you're communicating with me is thanks to capitalism, you likely live a comfortable lifestyle with access to high speed Internet, a smart phone etc thanks to capitalism. It worries me how dense alot of people are to the systems benefits. 80 years ago when much of the world eeked a living on family farms peoples life expectancy was incredibly low, thanks to the advention of capitalism globally most societies are living far better lives because of it. The US went from being a fairly nothing ex-colonial nation to a world super power in little over a hundred years.
@B-263543 жыл бұрын
@@pierrehedegaard72 Yet you've replied to my comment in support of capitalism and not the comment that pushed for socialism (which has killed up to 100million people in the last century.) Yeah no scale is perfect but we can clearly see in this day and age just what system is actually better for Mankind by and large, it certainly isn't socialism. As for your rant against the military industrial complex the reason we have things like jet engines, nuclear power, microwaves, radar etc is entirely down to the military industry innovating how we do things. The fact you opted to give me a lecture on impartiality is telling.
@cigarsandpins47813 жыл бұрын
I remember walking through this when I was a kid. I was young so I was terrified but the same time it was fun. Six Flags did such a good job with the façade that we never realized we were walking through trailers until after the fire. So tragic that those kids lost their lives. This event really changed the industry forever. So many safety regulations were created afterwards that still exist today. I have worked in the amusement industry for most of my life as a maintenance mechanic and this fire is referenced repeatedly. Great video! Thanks for making it.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28232 жыл бұрын
They should have gone down for using a 7 years old "temporary structure" to avoid following any codes. Imo
@reizak89663 жыл бұрын
Even though you're not telling ghost stories or anything that would be in a typical horror movie, I hear the background music and your calm voice and I get chills down my spine. They always fill me with existential dread. I mean that in a very nice way.
@plumdutchess3 жыл бұрын
I think the fact that he talks about true stories makes it even more chilling.
@KattMurr3 жыл бұрын
I love that too!
@lunalovengood96703 жыл бұрын
It’s the background music that gets me
@kittybennett90043 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Very Vincent Price à la Thriller
@elitheratman37303 жыл бұрын
For me, it’s the subtle foreshadowing in the background information. Also, every time “a small fire began” is said, I know shit’s gonna go down.
@AgarthanExecutioner3 жыл бұрын
I very much appreciate that you named the victims. They might not get an official memorial, but it's a nice gesture to help them be remembered
@georgeshelton62812 жыл бұрын
Just remember it's very rare; for 6 flags theme park, ever to be having anything terrible happening. We however still just had; a 6 year old boy who; leaped over a fence, and was killed by the Batman ride.
@georgeshelton62812 жыл бұрын
This took place in California.
@Whocares1582 жыл бұрын
I don't want to remember dead people.
@brianmorgan27443 жыл бұрын
Watching this particular video got me to thinking about something. In this instance, you did the families of the victims of this tragedy a great service by naming the victims, so that they may not be forgotten. Eventhough, as you stated in the video, that no memorial was put in place for the victims, by you naming them all, their memories will always be out there on the web, to be discovered by future generations.
@splinter1psi993 жыл бұрын
What I've learned from this channel is that nearly every safety precaution is born out of a tragedy.
@mooganify3 жыл бұрын
That’s the human race for you. Never proactive, always reactive.
@kayla21543 жыл бұрын
yep.
@gracie13123 жыл бұрын
"(Safety) regulations are written in blood"
@freddymustafa50203 жыл бұрын
Like the old saying "Lock the barn door after the horse got out"
@pennie23873 жыл бұрын
And then you get the political movement that proclaims these regulations "red tape" and "getting in the way of business" and gets rid of them if they gain power, and also prevent new ones from coming to be. To all be learnt through blood again.
@Pelenaiful3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me a little bit of a tragedy that happened not long ago, in 2019. In Koszalin, Poland, five 15-year old girls were playing in Escape Room when the fire started. The only person that survived was a "Game Master" that couldn't open the door to the room where the girls were, so he left the building with them inside, knowing they have no chance of escaping. Horrible tragedy, but it forced goverment to change te safety laws of these types of attractions. If you want to make a video about it I can help with translating sources.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
I think Ghost Ship should be right up front. Killed over 35, was it? Vastly overloaded electrical system.
@AgarthanExecutioner3 жыл бұрын
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Overloaded electrical equipment and surrounded by flammable materials in a very enclosed space. A close internet friend of mine was an employee there and was interviewed about it. I would ask them about it for more info, but understandably they don't want to talk about it. I remember they posted about the fire on Facebook after it happened, forcing them to take a break from social media to deal with the trauma they endured
@iamj91273 жыл бұрын
This park was called Great Adventure at the time of the fire. I lived about 20 minutes away from Great Adventure. As a young teenager, my friends and I would get season passes and hang out at Great Adventure all day. Some nights Great Adventure was open until midnight. My friends and I went through the Haunted Castle together many times. When I was old enough, I got a job there. I was working in a booth near the Haunted Castle on the day of the fire. I called security when I saw smoke rising but I think they were already aware of the fire. A huge crowd gathered as the fire grew bigger. When the tower fell, the crowd cheered. You can see the tower at 0:53. After work each night, we would meet at a nearby pizza place on Route 537. It was from a TV in the pizza place that we learned people had perished in the fire. It was a bad day. I was 17 years old.
@slurpee42033 жыл бұрын
six flags acquired Great Adventure in 1977, this disaster happened in 1985
@iamj91273 жыл бұрын
@@slurpee4203 Six Flags Great Adventure - people from the area still called it Great Adventure or GA. Some still do including me. We also call the beach “the beach”, not the shore.
@slurpee42033 жыл бұрын
@@iamj9127 my mom and grandma still call it Great Adventure too
@slurpee42033 жыл бұрын
@@iamj9127 people actually call the beach “the shore”??😭
@StephiiLoVa903 жыл бұрын
Is it not Six Flags Great Adventure?
@knickd19793 жыл бұрын
To think they go in already a bit nervous and scared as young minds would be entering a “Haunted Castle”, only to encounter True horror and suffering due to negligence is so incredibly sad 😔
@borleyboo56133 жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine the terror those poor souls must have felt before they succumbed to the flames. How horrific.
@pamelaraney46543 жыл бұрын
The worst
@sarahhiggins62803 жыл бұрын
I know and I just hope that smoke inhalation got to them first and they passed out, so as not to feel the pain of being burnt alive :(
@cindylou60843 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh, I thought the same thing!
@HMACDONALD693 жыл бұрын
@@sarahhiggins6280 I was trying to figure out delicate way to put it but I kept thinking I hope it was over quick.
@markieross94493 жыл бұрын
And if you look in the area they were in, they were right by the "coffin" scene. How scary and confusing for your last moments to be in such a place.
@hauntedtown3 жыл бұрын
Some guy has had the crushing weight of this dark secret hanging over him his entire life.
@dc79933 жыл бұрын
or he burnt
@lisalee28853 жыл бұрын
Or he was one of the 8 friends who died. Either way it was a mistake. Sadly mistakes can be fatal 😥
@PrezVeto3 жыл бұрын
@@lisalee2885 If the comments I'm seeing about a pyromaniac matching the description of the kid with the lighter and with a history of setting school walls on fire being in that attraction at the time of the fire are correct, it was no mistake.
@specteratthefeast96673 жыл бұрын
Would not be surprised if the boy who said he saw a boy using a lighter was probably the boy with the lighter and just afraid to get into trouble, even when the investigators said the person was not to blame
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
@@specteratthefeast9667 Not to blame? Shouldn't have been liquid gasoline on the walls, no. Putting a lighter up against it? You bet that's his fault.
@ethics33 жыл бұрын
" Fell through the cracks " Translation : The corrupt official who took bribes in exchange for not acting on the safety violations is still living a happy life having never been charged for his part in the deaths of 8 people .
@mkervelegan3 жыл бұрын
yeah, he probably likes his tee time at Trump's Bedminster NJ golf links
@FiddlebirdBlue3 жыл бұрын
I'm worried about the kid with the lighter. I hope he neither totally brushed off his part in what happened, nor blamed and hated himself for it ...
@justtime67363 жыл бұрын
@@mkervelegan Lives in your head rent free. God you are pathetic.
@RICDirector3 жыл бұрын
@@FiddlebirdBlue If he made it out. :(
@andrewtaylor9403 жыл бұрын
@@FiddlebirdBlue The kid with the lighter was a known 14 year old pyromaniac who was already under County and Court supervision and in a special School Diversionary Program for lighting his 3 previous schools on fire. His “PLUS” (Personal Learning Under Supervision) program was on a bus trip to Great Adventure that day. He was observed playing obsessively with the lighter on the bus, both going to and returning from the park that day. His County Supervision did nothing about it. The Arson investigators were barred from even talking to him.
@anddontcallmeshirley-3 жыл бұрын
When I die I want this music played at my funeral, while this dude tells everyone what a prick I was.
@Dr_KW3 жыл бұрын
Relatable
@marinoallen28493 жыл бұрын
i respect you sir
@argoneonoble3 жыл бұрын
Too funny, making your funeral into an episode of Fascinating Horror. Twisted or funny for the attendees?
@michalpupek57313 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Griselda_Puppy3 жыл бұрын
*_Right?! I do as well!_*
@Tzunamii7773 жыл бұрын
I walked through that castle months before the tragedy. I was 14 at the time, but it still gives me chills when I hear the story. RIP.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
There's an ebook on this.
@jakeplumber1373 Жыл бұрын
I call bs
@YeahNo3 жыл бұрын
Interesting how times change. When this happened people carried lighters and matches as normal, most likely because they smoked. These days less people smoke and so wouldn’t have these. Present day they would use their phones to light the way.
@jevinday3 жыл бұрын
exactly. a phone light is way more effective anyway
@MrFuntzel3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people still smoke so they would still have at least a lighter with them. Smoking rates havent dropped THAT much. However even people who have lighters in their pockets still wouldnt be using them now as a source of light since as you said they have a phone with them. Not cause they dont have a lighter with them.
@snailclowns27453 жыл бұрын
Yeah I work at a haunted house, can confirm I haven't seen anybody use a lighter as light, but I've been blinded by so many phone flashlights.
@sassi2143 жыл бұрын
@@MrFuntzel Really smoking rates HAVE dropped considerably.
@MrFuntzel3 жыл бұрын
@@sassi214 Not to the degree that its a rarity for people to have lighters in their pockets. Just saying the reason people dont use lighters now as a light source isnt because of decreased smoking rates and therefore decreased lighters in their pockets, but mainly because lighters as a light source are absolute garbage compared to using a Phone as a lightsource, something everyone has.
@FPVsean3 жыл бұрын
The Stardust nightclub fire is probably something of interest to you to research! Killed a lot of people back in the 80s here in Ireland because the fire exits were blocked and locked. Building went up like a light
@amagab23463 жыл бұрын
That was a sad sad read. good suggestion en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stardust_fire kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZTMq5ukfrploqs
@starlight85543 жыл бұрын
God I’m from Ireland and I’d never heard about this before. How horrific.
@FPVsean3 жыл бұрын
@@starlight8554 I know a few people affected, an ex work colleague lost his best friend to it, he was there and escaped, but his pals didn't. Was pretty emotional hearing about it, but it was a big deal back in 81 for sure, a lot of people died under the tragic circumstances
@wilting_alocasia3 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh, just skimmed the Wikipedia Absolutely awful Feels weird saying I'd like to see a video on it
@wilting_alocasia3 жыл бұрын
Also, does remind me of the Station Nightclub fire :(
@MoonStruckBunnyIRL3 жыл бұрын
I really like the fact that you cover events that have had lasting safety regulations instituted because of them. Other channels would probably just cover the event but not go into detail of what happened after. I appreciate that about your work.
@johnAsanz3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I watch these videos, they are heartbreaking. Reading the names and ages of those who lost their lives just fills me with sadness.
@dm94893 жыл бұрын
We watch so we can remember the tragedies, remember the victims. It is very sad, these folks were just going about their day, enjoying themselves at a theme park, shouldn't have ended the way it did.
@NuisanceDM3 жыл бұрын
They live on in you. You remember their stories, you teach others the lessons we learned from their lives.
@MamaSymphonia3 жыл бұрын
Every tragic mistake we make as a species, whether we're the cause or the victim, is an opportunity to learn, grow, and do better next time. Today's modern fire suppression systems and the rules for implementing them were only made possible because of tragedies like this. I think humans are instinctively drawn to tragedy partially because we can learn from others' demise, and reduce the risk of it happening to ourselves.
@dm94893 жыл бұрын
@@MamaSymphonia Well said!
@juliequigley6373 жыл бұрын
I agree hard to watch, but I think we are captured by it because we know how fragile our life is. Every little clip we see makes us think twice about some other adventure we may go on and think that’s not a smart thing to do!!
@molipaul3 жыл бұрын
I was an 18 year-old fishing on a nearby lake that afternoon in the town of Roosevelt, NJ (about 15 miles away). I can so clearly remember the black smoke rising over the lake on the horizon. Didn’t find out the cause until I got home that evening. As you can imagine, Great Adventure was one of our main summertime hangouts. Everyone I knew had season passes. We were all sickened to find out about this tragedy.
@mommabearoncrimeandlife62013 жыл бұрын
That’s sad 😞
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
Don't give these people any more $$ rich greedy people definitely understand THAT.
@melissamccleary96112 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I grew up going to great adventure and I will never go to a haunted house like that for that reason. Horrible and sad.
@sferguson11303 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think, that it wasn’t until the early 90s, when automated sprinkler systems, became mandatory in commercial spaces. Such a tragic event 🤦♂️
@ricknova19733 жыл бұрын
Spooky world was shut down in 1998 because it was unsafe if it had a sprinkler system it would of in operation this day at the Berlin mass location
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28232 жыл бұрын
That was 1977 or 78 in Illinois, anyway. This was after that. But these greedy, cheap scam artists used the 7 year old "temporary structure" bull to get out of installing them.
@juliusnepos60133 жыл бұрын
Suggestions: Transvaal Park Disaster, Peshtigo fire, Bocaue Pagoda Disaster, San Juanico Explosion, Silver Bridge Collapse, Bath School Disaster
@jmen88883 жыл бұрын
The school that got blown up in Bath, MI would also be a good story to tell.
@juliusnepos60133 жыл бұрын
yeah i forgot about the Bath school disaster, i think it was the worst mass murder-act of violence in U.S soil at that time after surpassing the Wall Street Bombing
@evil1by13 жыл бұрын
@@juliusnepos6013 it's still the largest school massacre in US history
@Catglittercrafts3 жыл бұрын
@@jmen8888 what??? How did I not know about this
@amagab23463 жыл бұрын
coal slurry pond failure in WV about 10 years ago
@mylamename143 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why it surprised me that most of the victims were just kids, but it was a shock. I can’t imagine how awful it must have been for their parents.
@LoveintheshapeofaPitBull3 жыл бұрын
I have a photo of my Dad holding me posing with one of the costumed workers in front of the castle entrance. He carried me thru the attraction. My mom didn’t go in, I cannot fathom the horror of those whose family members didn’t come out. RIP🙏🏼
@ClapsyPlapsy3 жыл бұрын
If there's one thing I've learned from watching your videos, it's that when a small fire breaks out anywhere, you need to run for your life. No waiting around to see if it gets worse ...
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
I'd suggest finding a fire extinguisher first and know how to use one. A small fire you can get to can be easily suffocated by natural fibers. Such as a 100% cotton or wool jacket or something. Don't use nylon or synthetic. It burns like you wouldn't believe.
@mtxnelis62973 жыл бұрын
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 I was taught at a fire training course that a fire extinguisher is useful for saving your life (and others), while you're all exiting the building. There's little glory in perishing in a fire with an empty extinguisher in your hands. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, a small fire in a trash can will probably be safe to extinguish, but only if you know how to operate the extinguisher. Powder or foam extinguishers are fine for that job, CO2 types not so much since you'll probably blast the contents into the room and suddenly are faced with multiple fire sources. Save yourself. Get out while calling emergency services and let the firefighters be the heroes.
@Gail1Marie2 жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as a "little" fire. Fires double in size every minute, and what started out tiny will quickly become a conflagration. If you see fire, GET OUT.
@andyjay7292 жыл бұрын
From "The Towering Inferno; Chief O'Hallorhan : You've gotta move all these people out of here. James Duncan : Aw, now, just how bad is it? Chief O'Hallorhan : It's a fire, mister, and all fires are bad.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28232 жыл бұрын
@@andyjay729 I had a hard time with that premise and of course, the useless OJ as a real actor. They "didn't put in wiring conduct...?" Makes no sense.
@frankcasey74233 жыл бұрын
I was 11 when this happened and remember watching the coverage on the news. I think they should have put up a memorial or a plaque for all the lives lost there.
@Laladust3 жыл бұрын
All of them were kids. Not one over age 17. All those absolutely broken parents who's kids didn't come home, and no memorial. It's honestly revolting on Six Flags part.
@dreadede3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t been there in years, but I thought I remembered seeing a memory plaque on the site. Am I wrong?
@Laladust3 жыл бұрын
@@dreadede There is not. There is one at the school some of the kids attended.
@dreadede3 жыл бұрын
@@Laladust maybe I’m losing my mind in my old age (47), lol! I swear I thought one was there. I’m picturing it when you walk up to the round fountain and go to the right of fountain, on the right hand side was a small garden area with a post and a small bronze plaque. Maybe one was there and removed?? I tried googling, but found nothing.
@aricrbell3 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe an actual ride stands there now that’s crazy. I had wondered many years what became of that space
@megamoose6373 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things about his narration is his thinly veiled disdain for people who shirk responsibility. You can tell he has a palpable disgust for those who value greed and laziness over life
@lr41652 жыл бұрын
Nah, he's just British. They all sound like that.
@thefisherking78 Жыл бұрын
You can't tell anything about how he feels
@mustaffa1611 Жыл бұрын
isn't that the definition of government?
@ThatOpalGuy Жыл бұрын
so, capitalists.
@ThatOpalGuy Жыл бұрын
@@mustaffa1611 a government run by capitalists.
@owellafehr51913 жыл бұрын
God, I can't imagine the guilt that the teenager who accidentally started the fire must have felt... :(
@the4tierbridge3 жыл бұрын
*Correction: Known Pyromaniac who came there that day on a field trip.
@the4tierbridge3 жыл бұрын
@Robin ah yes, IT ISN'T THE FAULT OF THE KNOWN PYROMAINIAC TEEN WHO KILLED 8 PEOPLE BECAUSE WHY NOT!
@DonPilon3 жыл бұрын
@@the4tierbridge Thw known pyromaniac?
@the4tierbridge3 жыл бұрын
@@DonPilon yes. It turns out they just let some kid who was in a group to make sure he didn't start fires or cause other trouble, who was obsessively playing with a lighter he brought with him on and off the bus, and went into the haunted castle go! Why!
@the4tierbridge3 жыл бұрын
@Robin ok. Can you overdose on Claritin?
@mcoudeniii3 жыл бұрын
I walked through that many times in my youth and never realized I was walking through a series of box trucks. I remember this tragedy well. RIP 😪
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
Yes, brilliant way to avoid fire codes on their part.
@wisdomseeker33623 жыл бұрын
Ohh no...box trucks❗ There was virtually no escape.
@deirdreryan74023 жыл бұрын
Same here, I went through it a couple of times and never thought of that.
@robswystun27663 жыл бұрын
If there is one thing I'm learning from binging this channel, it's that corporations are never at fault regardless of how scummy they are proven to be and rarely face any meaningful consequences.
@pp3k3jamail2 жыл бұрын
"America"
@oblivionsa79732 жыл бұрын
@@pp3k3jamail Because it definitely never happens in any other country, right?
@pp3k3jamail2 жыл бұрын
@@oblivionsa7973 I don't care about what happens in other countries 🤦🏿
@dustinwashburn12833 жыл бұрын
These are terrifying to listen to, because it shows that the worst things could be just around the corner, and we haven't thought of what it could be, or it's ignored because it may cost money. We've built safety regulations on graves. It's unnerving to hear, but important to understand.
@karenmilligan55973 жыл бұрын
Same thoughts I had.
@eyesofstatic96413 жыл бұрын
Sadly, lessons are almost always learned in blood. Someone has to be killed or injured seriously before the problem is corrected. It's tragic really
@lizabethmichelle3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of how lucky I am to be alive and that it could end at any moment
@andrewtaylor9403 жыл бұрын
But that’s kind of the point. Yes we’ve built safety regulations on graves. That’s horrifying, but it kind of is the way it has to be. The alternative is empowering government officials to randomly enact regulations on the basis of any idea they come up with. With no actual data or review. Down that path lies madness. And it already happens far far too often. Just look at many of the Federal, State and Local responses to Covid. And try and parse out which were based on data and underwent legit review. And which were based on a clueless person in authority acting to do something, anything, and because it made sense in his head and his head alone? Here’s a hint. Anytime they are imposing Curfews to fight a virus, it’s the later.
@nefariousnymeria20653 жыл бұрын
Suggestions for another vid(all from New Zealand): The 1953 Tangiwai railway accident. Its the worst railway disaster to occur in New Zealand (death toll - 151). The 1979 Mt Erebus air crash, NZs worst air disaster (death toll - 257). The 2010 Pike River mine accident. The 2012 Carterton balloon tragedy. And the most recent of all, the 2019 White Island eruption.
@suefergusson53513 жыл бұрын
Good to have another NZ'er, with these facts, I never remember the actual #'s
@esteemedmortal59173 жыл бұрын
Mt Erebus is really unique in that the crash happened in Antarctica. Investigation and recovery must have been a nightmare
@jasontempest42333 жыл бұрын
The Mt Erebus crash has always fascinated me because it's the only airliner I know that's crashed in Antarctica. Survival of the initial crash would have been nearly impossible.
@Human-hs8sp3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Wahine Ferry disaster.
@maggied84683 жыл бұрын
Thank you for naming those who died. So many times those who die are overlooked and forgotten. They matter and count. This is all so tragic. I like to think we learn from our mistakes but so many of these business's are just about profit. Very nicely narrated. Thank you.
@StoutShako3 жыл бұрын
Petition for this guy to get a patreon so that his fans can support him. No need to advertise it -- real homies already check the description wondering if there's a way to shovel cash at him.
@Syclone00443 жыл бұрын
Same, I’ve offered more than once
@forgereality3 жыл бұрын
This entire channel has been the best thing in my life recently
@SweetyBean3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god same. Just happen to stumble across it and now I’ve already seen everything 😭
@TonyGaddafi3 жыл бұрын
Facts I watched every video already
@LilTurtleBug3 жыл бұрын
This channel is like crack lol, I can’t get enough of it... although the stories are terrifying and heartbreaking, they are absolutely fascinating little bits of mostly unknown history . Everyone I know is like what are you binging on Netflix and I’m over here like, have you seen this KZbin channel?!? 🙂
@jmflyer553 жыл бұрын
In 1983, less than a year before the fire, I went through this haunted house with a girlfriend... The ironic thing is, they evacuated us from it that day. Lights went on, there was some chaos, and we were all hurried to the closest exit. Never saw or knew why we were evacuated. We suspected something (like fire) must have happened on the other side... Like 6 months later, we read in the paper, that all those kids had been caught in this fire.
@Coyotek43 жыл бұрын
SFGA is only about a 30-minute drive from where I live; as a child, I went with my family often. I wasn't there when this happened, but my mom and sister loved the attraction. That fire left a permanent scar on my childhood.
@booognish3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Wall Township
@SuperBanzaiBill3 жыл бұрын
It always feels weird liking these videos about tragedies.
@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer3 жыл бұрын
"We dont need to follow safety standards, itll be temporary building.......for 5 years"
@stevie-ray20203 жыл бұрын
Just as well the French haven't been lax about safety-standards over the years with the Eiffel Tower, after all, it's the world's oldest temporary structure!
@Lhansmeyer333 жыл бұрын
"Tha park was cleared of any wrongdoing " a common phrase on this channel
@k.morningstar79833 жыл бұрын
any time i hear people uttering the phrase "frivolous lawsuit" i think of shit like this and the old woman who was beat in the public eye for McDonald's business. corporations deserve to get reamed for every time they fuck up monumentally and so stupidly as they are seemingly designed to do
@froey1980333 жыл бұрын
Sad that people died when they were there having a good time. You never know when your time is up but what a horrible way to die. That's my biggest fear dying in a fire.
@jbzeigler3 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine going through a haunted maze with smoke and fire---and thinking it's all special effects. Great video. Great content.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr28233 жыл бұрын
Burnt plastic/foam is very acrid and black. Smells nothing like dry ice "smoke," which is acrid to me, tho. It's also white or grey. It isn't thick. Interestingly, if you ever really fry a speaker (like from unseen dampness) it's got a very NASTY smell. Burnt plastic and adhesive. Also, very distinct. Doesn't smell like anything else.
@haileelogan20313 жыл бұрын
A memorial may be “bad for business” but park guests dying is a helluva lot worse. Absolutely sick that parks never seem to take accountability or leave a shred of respect for those lost.
@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking3 жыл бұрын
I think it would actually be an attraction. Dark Tourism is a thing.
@justtime67363 жыл бұрын
Yet you say nothing of the people that continue to go to these parks. Such as how Netflix would not get away with all their pedophile programming if people did not keep subscribing.
@haileelogan20313 жыл бұрын
@@justtime6736 correct. Because I don’t agree with that. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with going to these parks, but I don’t agree with sweeping these mistakes under the rug and forgetting about them or pretending they didn’t happen. I don’t believe they should be shut down completely, but I do believe in safety and acknowledgement/correction of mistakes, especially those which caused the loss of life. People die in car accidents every day, do you believe we should all stop buying cars? Drinking alcohol?
@240sxRule3 жыл бұрын
Honestly could listen to this exact narrative style without change forever. Never change man. The music. The tone of voice. Everything. Perfect.
@chrisyasus89122 жыл бұрын
It's almost like a skeleton with mouth moving to a taped voice!
@ashotofmercury3 жыл бұрын
Of all of the videos I've watched on this channel, this is the first that made me tear up. The fact that the dead kids were from the same friendship group is just heartbreaking. 🥺😢💔 I hope they're still hanging out together, wherever they are..... ☹️
@rivetsquid88873 жыл бұрын
When I very first subscribed, it was hoping I'd get the notification about this one some day. Tons of channels talk about theme park disasters old and new, but for whatever reason they almost never bring up the haunted castle
@maj00723 жыл бұрын
I hadn't heard of this disaster. Thank for the non sensational presentation. Really like the presentation and composed narration.
@daltong66943 жыл бұрын
christ man imagine dying with all of your best friends in afire..
@sweetttarts3 жыл бұрын
All getting to heaven @ the same time awsome😇
@kayla36183 жыл бұрын
@xc s so what are you looking forward to after death?? Worry about yourself, Instead of doubting others beliefs.. I'd rather be wrong about heaven being real than wrong about it being fake.
@yungcris52113 жыл бұрын
@@kayla3618 I’m looking forward to being dead and if god is real then I’ll be looking forward to a eternity of pain just like what life is right now
@toothybj3 жыл бұрын
@@sweetttarts or they just died and that’s it, lights out. There’s no proof of God, Heaven or any of that rubbish
@DaleDix3 жыл бұрын
The smoke would have killed them first.
@Joe-vm6ds3 жыл бұрын
Oh hey, I mentioned this on one of your other videos! Glad to see a video on this topic, it was a real life horror story. I actually worked at the park throughout high school and college. There are no memorials to any of the 10 ride-related fatalities at the park. There was an eleventh after I left that involved a worker and a truck but I’m not sure if there’s a memorial for that. A lot of the staff there have no idea about the haunted castle nowadays, and those who do often of ghost stories surrounding the area of the park where the haunted castle stood. When I worked there it was an abandoned area called the Old Country. The Haunted Castle stood about where the Autobahn bumper cars were. I frequently walked by it as an employee since it was a shortcut but man was it creepy. If anyone has any questions about the park or the history of it let me know! I’d be more than happy to give some insight into it all
@alexrave15243 жыл бұрын
I have been to this theme park dozens of times and I have never even heard of this happening. So messed up that there isn't even a memorial.
@Ming_73223 жыл бұрын
I can’t help but think how absolutely terrifying it was for the victims. Surrounded by special effects, and spooky decor. Designed to bring thrills and fun. Instead turning hellish. You, and your friends, are trapped in a trailer with smoke and flames filling the corridors. You, and your friends, start to panic and scream. Searching for an exit, banging, and scratching on the walls as you try to escape. Horror fills the room as the flames and smoke engulf you and the group. Perishing with your friends. Still so young. The individuals responsible get away free as a bird, and you, and your friends deaths are swept under the rug. The site of your end showing no sign of your existence, and experience. Life goes on. What a waste…
@queenielouweekly316011 ай бұрын
If it brings you comfort, those kids were likely 80% DEAD by the time the flames got to them. The smoke would've knocked them out due to the cyanide gas.
@werewolfhrt3 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say, thank you for always putting up subtitles!! I have audio processing disorder, so having good subtitles like these always helps me listen and absorb the information better. The quality of your videos really shines through in every possible aspect.
@cindylou60843 жыл бұрын
Your diction is so impressive. You tell the story, including the most terrible parts, with such respect. Respect to the victims and the tragic cause of their demise. Keep up your awesome work!
@yeahyeahd3 жыл бұрын
one of the scariest things i've ever experienced at a haunted attraction was when the fire alarm went off (no fire, someone had lit a cigarette just before they exited and the detectors caught it)-- the lights came on and i was literally face to face with one of the actors covered in realistic scars and blood and up until that moment had no idea he'd been standing next to me. grateful every single day for the safety changes they've made in our state regarding temporary structures, but holy shit i nearly shat my pants when those lights turned on..
@lumemaa73 жыл бұрын
And they just put up another ride , where people died. There should be a memorial for those lost souls. No respect, only interested in money. 🤦🏼♀️
@imfromthegovandimheretohelp3 жыл бұрын
💯
@rich_edwards793 жыл бұрын
I guess they think that having a plaque saying 'eight kids burned to death on this spot because we were so focused on profit that we did only the bare minimum and ignored clear warnings' would rather spoil the 'family fun day out' ambience and be bad for business :(
@lumemaa73 жыл бұрын
@@rich_edwards79 exactly...”lets just brush it aside and forget about 8 people losing their lives...”
@rafetizer3 жыл бұрын
I mean, people have died on nearly every square foot of every habitable landmass.
@litl_kim3 жыл бұрын
They originally had botanical gardens put in for people to walk through or sit...new owners took them out to put new attractions in ☹️
@Novusod3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. The haunted castle fire is most deadly disaster to ever occur at an amusement park. Yet hardly anyone knows about it. It is almost completely forgotten outside of New Jersey.
@mitchberby74722 жыл бұрын
Whoever made this deserves a nod for reading the names of the victims. Good on you.
@paulosullivan34723 жыл бұрын
I always appreciate the fact that you approach these disasters with a level head and factual information and not some sensationalist crap like the main stream news do. Thanks, as always an interesting look into past mistakes.
@rowand24053 жыл бұрын
Summerland fire on Isle of Man would be interesting.
@lastofthe4horsemen2793 жыл бұрын
I was a safety inspector and most of the violations I reported were deemed too expensive to fix and the same violations existed year in and year out.(not fire inspection).This is how the world seems to work.Tragedy= Sudden concerns about Safety.
@michaelmichaels1383 жыл бұрын
@@lastofthe4horsemen279 - yeh because many people value money over human life.
@stusmith10743 жыл бұрын
At least there is now a nice memorial garden at the end of the Douglas promenade close to the site of the tragedy.
@ASCIITerminal3 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same. Not altogether different from this tragedy. Started accidentally by children and lax fire regulations leading to a absolute disaster.
@AbandonedMines112 жыл бұрын
Very well done! Your video was not too long and not too short. Your speaking voice was very nice to listen to as well. I had never heard about this particular amusement park disaster, so it was nice being able to learn about it. I’ve always been a big fan of haunted houses and dark rides, so this story was especially poignant for me. Thanks again for the excellent video!
@ari_amaya3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this vid. This event really hits close to home. My mom wasn’t there at the time of the fire, but she was there earlier in the day. Her friends invited her out for an early birthday celebration, but she had to leave early because I was there too and (being less than a year old) needed to go home. A couple of her friends were in the group that didn’t make it. She used to tell us about this event and how much she missed those that were killed. We went back to the park in 1993, but there was nothing there to indicate the Haunted Castle, and that never sit right with her. Such a terrible tragedy.
@morganb6733 жыл бұрын
its always human error, always. human. error. it is absolutely incredible and a damn miracle we have survived this long. rip to those who lost their lives:(
@SuperScottCrawford3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's a cow. Remember Chicago? That's why I no longer drink milk. Expired milk, anyway.
@CleoPhoenixRT3 жыл бұрын
Yes! human error and something small that was cut just to save a few bucks. 😑
@SuperScottCrawford3 жыл бұрын
@@CleoPhoenixRT Biggie Small(s).
@yamigurl8223 жыл бұрын
I think of that all the time too. How have we all not killed eachother yet?
@rabbitraisin3 жыл бұрын
Humans, as a species, are tough and adaptable. Maybe one day we'll go the way of the dinosaurs but while there's still a planet and no giant meteor or other similar thing there will always be humans surviving and adapting and evolving somewhere.
@mikebrown80652 жыл бұрын
I remember being in the Haunted Castle when I was a kid!! If memory serves me correctly, we were in the attraction a week before this horrible disaster.
@user-hm9uq8gk5x3 жыл бұрын
A fire in a maze... Oh god
@sparklythings223 жыл бұрын
right i can't even imagine how panicked and scared they must've felt while racing to get out with seemingly no exit in sight! 😭 just awful!
@m.rye.4263 жыл бұрын
Nightmare situation.
@ryanjacobson25083 жыл бұрын
And several emergency exits were difficult or impossible for patrons to access because tall fences were placed in front of them (employees used the fences as protection from rowdy guests and park management was tired of patrons casually using these exits to go in and out of the attraction).
@angelicareal73813 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for doing a video about this fire. As a local this means a lot to me and I’m really glad that more people are going to hear about it now that otherwise wouldn’t have. Hopefully this will lead to some kind of memorial being built somewhere in the park. Every time I visit the park I always make sure to stop by around the area where it happened and pay my respects to those who died.
@barbaracraig8912 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@danw21123 жыл бұрын
10 - 12 years ago, someone made a 60-70 minute documentary of this disaster and uploaded to KZbin. The band Golden Earring (Radar Love, Twilight Zone) was playing a show at the park at the same time as this disaster.
@mrtutrle26263 жыл бұрын
It's still up its called doorway to hell. The quality isn't the best but it's informative
@danw21123 жыл бұрын
mrtutrle2626 Thank you for the info. I re edit my post. I tried to look up the video 8 or 9 years ago, but could not find it.
@mascara17773 жыл бұрын
Yes, that documentary was the best
@frusology85023 жыл бұрын
Does anybody have the link to it? I can’t find it :(
@danw21123 жыл бұрын
@@frusology8502 Here is part 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5_HfJ2Li6xoo7c He uploaded the video back when KZbin didn't allow videos over 10 minutes.
@josealqueres3 жыл бұрын
this haunted castle was a deathtrap without basic safety measures
@spider-queen3 жыл бұрын
this channel has really changed the way I look at certain buildings, now I find myself making note of exits and trying to think ahead, the idea of a maze with no emergency doors or anything and only one confusing route is terrifying
@GolfCrafter3 жыл бұрын
@@spider-queen IKEA
@laurenlancaster58072 жыл бұрын
I was working at the park that summer, senior year at Jackson Mem H.S. I was always way too skeptical... safety as well as hearing about how employees would push at and grab visitors walking through. We had heard the tale...the exit doors of the trailers....we're LOCKED with chains, from the outside!! As well as stories of the group who last their lives, being found at said locked Exit, it was a traumatic event for most of us teenaged employees....as there were other attractions that WE would not ride, because of questionable safety practices. There was a memorial...when the site was cleared....it was turned into a memorial garden area for several years. Such a tragedy....
@vhs37603 жыл бұрын
I always tell my mom about your videos - we discuss the mistakes and violations which caused the accidents and loss of life. I feel like I’ve learned a lot about the importance of following safety regulations.
@Syclone00443 жыл бұрын
I’m jealous, whenever I mention this stuff to my dad he usually has an expression of disgust and says “Why would you want to spend your time hearing about awful things?”
@sepiasmith50653 жыл бұрын
A great reason for this channel to continue 💖
@Mrsttowner3 жыл бұрын
Now I understand why my mom would never let me go places with my friends when I was younger, she was always scared something would happen and I’m like mom wtf can happen, and then I see this. Hearing their names and age was so heartbreaking.
@judis.18103 жыл бұрын
I was there that day. My gf and I went through the Haunted Castle as soon as we got there, around 11am. We were still there when this terrible fire happened. It was just chaos everywhere in the park. When we were finally allowed to leave the park, I got home to find out that my mom was crying thinking I was one of the victims. It took many years for me to go back to Six Flags in Jackson, NJ.
@kayra21303 жыл бұрын
god i love this channel so much. other channels of the same kind usually feel voyeuristic and exploitative but your videos always feel so respectful that i almost feel personally thankful lol. not to mention super engaging and interesting. i love that you mention the regulations that exist as a result of the disasters, it almost feels like the tragedy wasnt in vain