Fast Bikes Sportsbike of 2018 shootout

[@Apollo-Computers]

I still bought the 2018 R1M, love it :)

[@youneedhost]

You mad the best decision.... i bet you still got zero problems with that bike a year later lets ask the rest of the competition.... oh wait they are at the shop getting shit fix 🤣✌

[@JeffSana30]

Smart buy, a few minor upgrades with the brake lines and that thing will slay on the canyons and track. That crossplane and akra sound is unmatched till this day 🙌

[@Apollo-Computers]

@@JeffSana30 I put the graves full titanium race exhaust on it, with the active tune from flash tune and graves sent me a custom map. The brake lines are all stainless braiding. I still want to get brembo calipers for it though.

[@jponz85]

Sorry I ain't balling like some of you here buying the newest ride, but I just jumped from a 06 636 to an 08 zx10r and I love it. 15k miles for $4500 I think it was a good purchase.

[@NCC2087]

Jonathan Pontel - I ❤️ my RSV4 soooooo much.

[@bikerboy2k142]

I got my boy a 2007 zx10r 6k on miles for $3,000....He had a 05 gsxr 1000 he bought from a guy and it had a blown head gasket he didn't know about so we did it for 3000 and he got a 2003 Honda CBR 954rr he is a Honda guy but felt it wasn't new enough so we sold it and got the zx10r now his happy....

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

So?

[@jponz85]

@first last my zx10r was an excellent purchase.

[@SteveC-Shaman]

Love my RSV4. With rearsets, a Graves pipe, fairings and race tune, it's such a wicked machine. You go fast on it without even trying.

[@juicer404]

did u get much more room with rear sets, im 6 3, fear bike may be too small

[@SteveC-Shaman]

I can't say, it's all down to the rider and their leg/hip ratios. It may be a bit cramped for you.

[@fastbikes]

Some of us are over 6-foot and have never had any issues, even with rearsets, skinny bike but long, plenty of room to move about etc, partly what also makes it a darn fine road bike to boot.

[@pags1981]

How you find the Graves pipe on the RSV4? For the money it looks killer, I ended up going for the titanium Project SC Racing Oval (good power, sounds deep, not too loud etc)?

[@Yogi5D]

i can say the same things and much more for my lightly tuned ’16 Bmw RR

[@Utahforrest]

These are my fav videos... always anxiously await the shootouts. Love the dynamic sport bike approach. Simple yet brilliant.

[@fastbikes]

Cheers Forrest!

[@pags1981]

Great review. The RSV4 only gets faster with the Corse ECU, but it makes the bike smoother which I wasnt expecting. Ride it like a old RS250 2 stroke and it's another level. You can tell Biaggi was involved in its development!

[@fastbikes]

We've a few friends with special RSVs, one a WSB spec' chassis and electronics with a Superstock spec' motor - weapon!

[@beamdoctor5637]

Hail to Max the Emperor

[@bobbybackmarker9665]

Wow! An honest review from a commercial channel! Well done guys, hats off and looking forward to more of the same!!

[@fastbikes]

A pleasure sir!

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Bobby Backmarker thanks!

[@robertoamaya1265]

GSXR 1000 R looks really nice. Elegant!!!!!!!

[@threethrushes]

I have never ridden a sportsbike, and probably never will, nor will I own one, but this annual review is excellent and compulsory viewing for anyone even slightly interested in motorbikes. The effort, the narrative, the sequences, and the rigour in selecting the best bike is excellent. More of the same for other bike segments, please!

[@fastbikes]

Thank you Gerhard!

[@ghost8six]

I'll take the zx10r. WSBK winner. They always look down on it. If you tune it, it makes amazing power, feels so much better than the restricted bikes, and is some of the best bang for your buck.

[@fastbikes]

You're right, just a pipe and a map, extra tooth on the rear and it's amazing (if still a bit big and cumbersone in relation to the rest). But we test out of the crate, what the consumer buys first and foremost and, as such, it's a little lacking in some areas - but still awesome!

[@exothermal.sprocket]

ECU flash really takes the cork out of it.

[@ronsmith9251]

I think it's the best bike for all around use, and the one I'd most seriously consider.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

As you can see, the 2011-2015 was REALLY restricted in stock form. www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/2012%20zx10%20stk%20vs%20package.gif

[@Muf814]

its the superbike winner because of the riders...the bikes great and makes great power but its at the bottom of the barrel next to all of these masterpieces

[@eddyquik]

Amazing journalism! Thoroughly enjoyed

[@fastbikes]

Cheers Ed!

[@tedc1531]

BMW and Aprilia were initially designed when electronics were just being introduced. I am guessing that having a solid mechanical platform is still the most important aspect. Nice to see a comparatively tiny company like Aprilia stick it to the big boys and their massive budget and resources. Like they said, they are all very close when it comes to performance so no wrong choice nowadays.

[@fastbikes]

Bingo!

[@psych0hans]

If you meat is shit, no matter how good the gravy, it's still going to be shit :p

[@AMPJ08]

Ted C Oh this is a well sound comment! Think the Pani will improve in time they probably need to further improve the chasis having said that, the margins are small and all of these bikes are good. The chasis and engine of the Aprilia has been a blessing to many riders around the globe NOW you can get these at decent prices compared to some of the others! Aprilia deserves to sell more just for a Thank you. And I hope they get some out of their MotoGP and make the next step.

[@tkohout87]

Great review enjoyed every single one of you sportbike of year shame there is no way to rewatch the old ones:-(

[@paulocarreiro5855]

Great video! The shooting, the editing and I even loved the ads.

[@fastbikes]

Bike World did a great job!

[@SuperbikeDiscovery]

I now own a CBR1000RR SP1 and I am as in love i could be with any of the other bikes here listed, actually prefer the sp for being sooo light and nimble and so so beautiful. Great video, guys!

[@darthvisor9289]

i´m afraid i want all of them

[@fastbikes]

Any of them would be amazing!

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Just buy the 1290 Super Duke R. Forget the rest. hahaha

[@Scholar4777]

@@exothermal.sprocket H2R

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@Scholar4777 if you live on a race track.

[@pags1981]

Yup it's like bloody Pokemon, get them all

[@vainparasite]

To be totally fair, if you owned any of these bikes you wouldn’t be disappointed. I know the average rider that will afford these won’t be a top racer, but a middle aged bloke who struggles to fit in the leathers that he bought last season. Saying that i do love these tests and he did keep stressing that this was an ultimate sports bike track test and its nice having the bragging rights in the pub without the chance of wrecking your dream bike in the process. Ill take any please, but ill be happier with the RSV4 just on the strength of this test 😁😁👍👍

[@rumporridge1]

Hooray for Aprilia!!!! Awesome shootout guys !

[@fastbikes]

Cheers!

[@justgotafilthyname]

what a phenomenal review of those bikes. Very nice work! And my personal favorite won :) greetings from Switzerland

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Marc Meier greetings back Marc

[@jasamnedostizan]

In every track test Aprilia its better then Panigale V4, impresive,

[@florinvid]

54 world titles , is the answer my friend. 😉

[@MrJuggernautishere]

what a beautiful breezy video----One of the greatest narrators of a motors video or a technical video...Thank You

[@fastbikes]

Ta!

[@SMBBM92]

Aprilia FTW! My Tuono V4R is my dream bike and one I'll never sell.

[@mohammadfirdaus4408]

Excellent professional review. That's why i love fast bike magazine for years. And the best of 12 months are SBOTY edition. Even though it is more expensive here (Malaysia) because currency change, it really worth. Thank you for bridgestone and R&G for supporting the events. I also bridgestone user for almost 9 years for my bikes. They keep upgrade the tyre and i can tell you the different between their version. I also put R&G protector to my bikes because they are nicely design.

[@eagle4349]

The APRILIA is most championship winning supersport motorcycle brand in the world. There are many championship titles on their name. The good thing about them is that they never unnecessarily boast or bluff about their victories. APRILIA is totally supersport dedicated brand. They do not harm their prestige just to get higher sales number. I don't have APRILIA but still it's my favorite brand when it comes to Supersport motorcycle brand. Thanks

[@recpro7847]

Ditto that. I personally have owned Aprilias since 2006. My absolute favorite Sport Bike!

[@TrackSol]

Yeah, loads of championships on 125cc and 250cc years ago!

[@jayshaw7389]

Aprilia have the most wins because 9 out of 10, 125 and 250 bikes were aprilias. They'd have a bloody tough job on their hands to NOT win... Whereas in the litre bike world aprilias did nothing.. and never will.

[@devkantprasad3455]

i own an aprilia and its just the best of its class

[@aravindakshanpv8101]

They should change the alien looks of the bike.looks worst

[@ausingtv]

Winner is my next bike. Test rode one at the weekend and it's sublime. Can not wait to get one and get it on track

[@fastbikes]

Lucky man! :-)

[@jaybusa3302]

Shame they didn't show us the lap times....

[@fastbikes]

All those, plus loads more stuff like speed and a heap more detail are all in the magazine Jay, link in the description if you're interested.

[@jaybusa3302]

Fast Bikes Magazine ok. Thanks

[@ross5506]

Like if it really matters,too much bike for the road!

[@docmoto6477]

Ross ok Gramps 😕

[@furious32ninja]

@@ross5506 keep telling yourself that buddy, if you're too afraid of riding one of them!

[@davidcardinal9900]

Great series of reviews...But I didn't know about the 2019 BMW...Gonna have to put off my new track bike until next year!!

[@fastbikes]

We can't wait to see it!

[@BikerBlast]

Finally a Sportbikes shoot-out again!! :D

[@shingnosis]

Brilliant review, love the Aprilia love. Always been a big Aprilia fan, used to own a Tuono 1000r Factory and it was mental.

[@jsmcguireIII]

With the cost considered, it's the R1M for the win.

[@BrianEvansracer]

Great job Rennie! I saw at least 5 front end slides and 3 big time rear end chatters.....kick ass!

[@Destide]

Wow didn't expect the C90 to win!

[@fastbikes]

Ha!

[@ravenmoto5948]

Nice video. For me I got the BMW as for me its the best all around bike out there. The bonus of the heated grips and cruise control is awesome thing to have on a sports bike! For me the quick shifter works flawless as long as you do your part. The throttle must be closed to shift down, you do that each and every time and everything is perfect, never had any issue shifting up as long as you are not being lazy with the shifter. Awesome machine

[@mujtabakamal]

Amazing review. You guys are honest

[@fastbikes]

Thank you!

[@ranger4770]

Amazing shootout. Especially liked the detailed report!.

[@Ihelpanytime]

Best bang for the buck I'd say the GSX-R1000 and the Ninja ZX-10R.

[@agentmartagentmart9122]

I help anytime why do you say that ? I’m interested in hearing your opinion

[@HangOnHangOff]

Went to the dealership to check out the new super duke and decided to keep my 17 Tuono. It is not as comfy or 2 up friendly but I just didn't "Feel" it when I am on the Duke. Really loved the RSV4 but Tuono's ergo was like the best compromise a person can make when it comes to going fast and staying comfortable.

[@jayyoung5397]

i wonder where MV AGUSTA F4 would have placed in this shootout. and why didnt they include it?

[@F4Effort]

Jay Young It would place dead last. To my knowledge hasn’t been touched since 2011.

[@mikek545]

The MV AGUSTA F4 is a terrible bike. The MV AGUSTA F3 is a better bike and you saw how it did. The best bike is the BMW hands down. Much better than the Aprilia RSV4 and Ducati. I've owned and tracked most of these bikes.

[@DouEditz]

@@mikek545 how is it a terrible bike? You ever rode one...

[@mikek545]

Midnight Yes I rode my friends F4. He bought one and sold it after 2 months. Plus the brand comes and goes with different owners and financial problems. The best bike is the bmw, or Aprilia. Ducati and Kawi isn’t bad either.

[@DouEditz]

@@mikek545 Yeah thats all great buddy, I ask again how is a TERRIBLE bike?

[@harizrothmans5557]

Aprilia rsv4...the ultimate track weapon ! Love the sound 😈😍

[@BruceWayne-hf7zw]

Jesus the comments would make your brain bleed. These aren’t moto gp bikes or world superbikes and different tracks highlight different things. Great review and balanced opinions. At least mentioning issues that tend to get ignored in other places

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Bruce Wayne thanks!

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Are you addressing Jesus, or the internet?

[@bilalamarumosi8282]

@@exothermal.sprocket 😂😂😂😂😂

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Exodus 20:7 (KJV) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. How would you like it if I used Bruce Wayne as a cuss word every day? Just saying, think about it.

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Lifted_Above I can’t tell if you’re being very funny or very stupid.

[@Wildchannel360]

Agree. The rsvr is everything!! A lot of people don’t know yet, how exciting is to ride that special v4 engine. You have to get your hands on one. Then you will feel it.

[@sergestojanovic3830]

Drigo Poster that’s right 👍

[@rupeshsingh2709]

RSV4 = The Most Complete Bike!

[@agentmartagentmart9122]

Rupesh Singh it goes to the repair shop a lot ?

[@tnelliott2447]

ZX10rjet can’t say it does Have a 18 RF No repairs yet, no recalls No nothing And if it gives me issues I have the full warranty Oh and if I decide to sell because it has issues I’ll get.. let’s say how much in return?? How much will the ninja get? I’m guessing stereotypical ninja with the loud pipe snapped off the rev limiter and all top end squid mode engaged? I’m thinking the return will be less than my ARAI helmet?

[@Ftw321]

Amazing comparison guys !!! Still my love is the R1M OMG what a machine 0_0

[@fastbikes]

Word! It's amazing, they all are, it's so very tight between the lot!

[@TheDriversPerspective]

Great job being thorough and objective with this review.

[@fastbikes]

Thank you!

[@Mat81238]

Bikes were on the same tires but... Isn't that the case that Panigale V4 geometry is set for higher tire profile? As always... Great to watch!!!

[@fastbikes]

Tyres were the right size for the Panigale, and the bike (like the Aprilia) has a tyre calibration system which mates it to the electronics - tyres have to be the same on all bikes for a fair assessment, given the wide range of performance from OE hoops.

[@RicViperskylogs]

Agreed Fireblade almost killed John Mcguiness at the nw200 (throttle issue) and Guy Martin at the TT (box of neutral)

[@vicati7536]

Great shootout video! Glad someone did it already!

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

VICATI thanks

[@sk2283]

love this review, well done FB - it's sent people into spasms ! LOL Funny as I reckon half the comments are from people who don't even ride a sports bike ! Bikes are very different on road to how they are on track, simple as that, on track you really get to feel the individual characters, good & bad. As a natural piss-taker it's really hard to not wind them all up :-) Can I come on the next one please? I'll bring my own bikes !

[@fastbikes]

Maybe... ;-)

[@cantfindanamefree]

I have the tuono factory v4 and I love it. For track days I feel so confident on it. I only loose out on the straights to the sport bikes. Cornering and breaking is excellent. And theres the sound of course 👌 I would like the rsv4 but not sure if I’d like it as a daily on the road

[@fastbikes]

What a weapon of bike you have! There's actually a test of that versus the new Speed Triple RS in the same SBOTY issue, link in the description if you've any interest in that.

[@gabrieljohannson6777]

Such an awesome array of great bikes. We are really spoilt for choice. That RSV4 is sublime. As an ex-RSV4 owner its a bloody great bike. Ex because I was only using it for CBD travel. Mental. Seriously, if you wanted a V4 you'd be nuts...nuts I say to go past the Aprilia. That R1 is special. Great to see Suzuki come back hard & fast. Wow.

[@Joric78]

Great comparison! Even though I've moved on to super nakeds, I'm still always keen to see how the manufacturers are pushing the envelope at the sharp end of the stick. Considering how much the BMW moved the game on when they launched the S 1000 RR, I can't wait to see what they do next. They've certainly never been shy about throwing all the latest technology (with a matching tome of acronyms) at their bikes.

[@fastbikes]

Cheers! Yeah be interesting to see what they come up with!

[@qingyuzhao4490]

Lap times, please.

[@fastbikes]

Loads of other info, laptimes, speeds, more in-depth analysis of each of the bikes and why they finished where they did is in the magazine. Link in the description above if you're interested!

[@Turder]

Tells you a lot when long time and evolved models stay on top. It's not easy to nail it on the 1st gen model, and subsequent updates can make a big difference. Plus you get rid of all the 1st gen gremlins, recalls, little issues etc.

[@fastbikes]

Bingo! Some would say never buy anything first gen', as in anything (like one of us did with a silly expensive laptop a couple of years ago - headslap...). That being said, quite often a bike is knocked out of the park at the first attempt dynamically speaking. But evolution of something that's already brilliant? Can't go wrong!

[@kernal85]

Nice review! Wonder if KTM will bring out a sport bike again that would be fun.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

That would be fun!

[@beamdoctor5637]

They didn't sell well in the states at dealers I went too. I like the sound of a piped RC8 at the track but seeing them sit at dealers unsold was sad

[@exothermal.sprocket]

I'd rather have a handle-bar clad naked bike racing category. 1290 SDR is miles more fun in every motorcycle use-case than any racetrack focused razor.

[@vinit11]

9:18 exactly!!! That's what guy martin faced in 2017 isle of man TT the fireblade has a huge neutral problem but after i saw the 2021 fireblade I think they slayed the competition

[@DonnieDesmo]

959 last, wow. It's a bit tough against the 200hp bikes.

[@nickcardillo5021]

Despite having virtually the same displacement. Add another 200cc to the other bikes and they would spank the Ducati V4 even further.

[@kevintunaley5079]

@@nickcardillo5021 it got beat by the MV F3 800 which had less power and still was over a second faster around the track

[@robertsole9970]

The Ducati chassis is tuned for a different brand of tire. The ECU and all the electronics were not tuned or programmed for the brand used in this test. So no big surprise it did not work.

[@fastbikes]

It worked just fine, tyres were the right size and the bike has a tyre calibration system which mates it to the electronics, same as the Aprilia which was also 'tuned' for a different tyre, or 'developed on', rather.

[@carstenhansen5757]

I'd get the BMW, but I really don't like the headlights.

[@pedronogueira8148]

The new one solves that problem.Good luck with the reliability, though...

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

So don’t get it.

[@carstenhansen5757]

you're a fucking genius...

[@kevintunaley5079]

so they use an MV F3 800 vs 1000cc bikes, why not use the F4 ?

[@MrJarendell]

And try to find an Aprilla dealership near to where you live, that's one of the main problems as I understand...

[@sk2283]

less than 10 miles form me - have you actually looked for one?

[@pz5006]

3 within 45 mins of me

[@awdeveau]

James Arendell about a 40min. Drive for me. Could be double that and I still wouldn't hesitate. I went with the Tuono and it's such a good bike I'd happily drive 2hrs if needed. 9k miles and haven't had an issue so far.

[@MrBurdUsername]

James Arendell 14Km's mate

[@AMPJ08]

James Arendell Do you want the best or not? They are quite ok with reliability.

[@CaptainPanick]

Man I can't afford any of these bikes but the standards are so high it would be hard to pick one. Great review guys, it sure is nice to see all these bikes together!

[@fastbikes]

Neither can we!

[@kalyankarumudi2343]

I am going to buy an RSV4 RF.

[@kaushal4111]

Liya ki nahi??

[@dubois4469]

Yesss for the aprilia my favorite brand and the rsv4 factory is a beast ... I like ducati and honda but aprilia are just the top

[@dougie1325]

Why no HP4 or H2 in the line up?

[@fastbikes]

H2 has been in before a couple of years back (it didn't do too bad either), but it's not an out and out superbike. HP4 (the Race we're assuming) is too expensive, we try and keep things at least somewhere sensible when it comes to the bikes involved.

[@dougie1325]

Fast Bikes Magazine, I must admit I confused the HP4 with the previous HP road legal, and no longer available. Not sure when they stopped making the HP possibly a couple of years or so.

[@fastbikes]

Yeah it was, last time we had one was 2014 we think!

[@jerryp1392]

Cuz the hp4 is 80,000, and h2 is supercharged, and won't do too well on track.

[@dougie1325]

Yeah, only 80,000, you say that like it's expensive or something-hahaha!

[@sandeepsaxena8266]

Very nicely compiled video, highly informative

[@AshokeTewari]

The speedometer on the Suzuki jumps from 61 to 123 @ 17:40 ... !!!

[@kevinfuller7737]

Front tire was in the air!

[@darrinrhodes7385]

Well done Fast Bikes this was a great watch. Outstanding result for a 10 year old design, when are you doing a Naked bike shootout as I think it may be won by the same brand...…. although I'm a little bias..... I have a 218 Tuono 1100 and I can't get enough of it.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Darrin Rhodes it’s all in the filming and editing Darrin!

[@chambelpatras1430]

“Kawasaki needs all the help it can get” was the moment I dropped a comment and backed out of this video

[@fastbikes]

Against the rest? Yeah it does, although it doesn't stop it from being an ace machine, which it is, they all are!

[@mahamza86]

Love the RSV-4. But I don't do tracks so I m gonna get the Touno V4.

[@cutdepiefails6596]

I really would love a f4 here.

[@fastbikes]

None available, MV sold all their F4s, none were available and the final F4 special edition isn't out until next month

[@cutdepiefails6596]

Fast Bikes Magazine That's the most surprising thing I heard this year. Mv Agusta is selling all their stock... Who would had guessed.

[@fastbikes]

As it happens, MV sell just about every bike they make every year, overall numbers are low, around 12,000, but every one goes!

[@TreebeardNL]

F3>F4

[@alexdaly2858]

Fastbikes you can borrow my f4 1078rr if you want to see how it stacks up against the current generation.

[@Jumacado]

all of them are above the average driver level, so I am interested in knowing which one is best for a big rider ... thanks

[@fastbikes]

A big rider? As in a large/tall person?!

[@Jumacado]

Fast Bikes Magazine sorry for my english, yes tall person.

[@BaliOtomotif]

love bike. yeahhhhh

[@K113-A]

Man, they really push the bikes. What an awesome review ! In fact, I never hear any of those flaws on the bikes from any other reviewer... Apart from the Kawasaki, its always been big and the power is on top

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

battalion113 thanks

[@bwxmoto]

Informative, and interesting..

[@fastbikes]

Thank you!

[@fastbikes]

Must say, stacks more info on this test in the magazine, lap times, speeds, more detail and analysis etc, link to it in the description above if you're interested.

[@incognito8219]

I'm happy with the verdict on all the bikes

[@PrimiusLovin]

Any of these is fine, they will put to shame cars costing upwards of 100 thousand dollars!

[@damonm3]

PrimiusLovin it will shame cars up to 1/2M and hang with 1M+ cars in many ways except for top speed. That’s why superbikes (1000s or larger)are king for the $$$.. but you increase your risk of dying by only a few thousand %😂😂

[@marmax5272]

unfortunately not true with an average driver/rider most of the time on tracks or on road a modern hot hatches will be faster, bikes are harder to ride fast (getting easier with the electronics though) but with a good rider a bike would be quicker on the average track,

[@PrimiusLovin]

Perhaps, but I'm going to give you an obvious example of how ridiculous the price/performance difference can get between motorcycles and cars, e.g @ - Pikes Peak Hill Climb: A 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport, a fairly expensive race car, is 1.5 seconds faster than... get ready for it, "a 2009 Aprilia SXV450"!!

[@marmax5272]

an example how a factory race bike prepared specifically to go up pike peak with a cost of about 100k originally and a 75k road car, this year a 2.5 tonne standard Bentley SUV was only 58 sec slower than the record holding factory prep KTM, there are no real straight forward comparisons between cars and bikes and cost,

[@PrimiusLovin]

Yes there is a straightforward comparison: '10:35.354' (2009 Aprilia SXV450: $8799) VS '10:33.897' (2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport: $165,000)!!

[@MOTOUK1]

Fab test guys as ever! Surprised Honda have not sorted the false neutral out yet😳 good to see ducati v4 coming into it and as ever the epic Aprilia - about time they opened more dealerships they could sell shed loads 👍

[@xbladerunner]

36 Peeps own bikes that didn't finish where they thought they should. Sorry guys truth is painful sometimes.

[@crazymango5692]

Wondering if its worth going up in displacement from 600cc to a litre...

[@cuzimaluzer777]

Gsxr750. Only 419 pounds

[@sergestojanovic3830]

Crazy Mango if you want more torque and speed ABSOLUTELY!

[@ruidias4969]

f3 800 "if it had more power" if only there was an f4 1000

[@kevintunaley5079]

sometimes stupid people do not know they are stupid, like that comment right ? putting an 800cc vs 1000cc and crying about lack of power while ignoring that the F4 exists

[@superdriver777]

I thought the same thing but this test was conducted in 2018, and according to my research that was the last year of F4 production. They only made 100 bikes and they sold for $83,000 each. They should have included it, but the exclusivity and everything may have made it impossible.

[@tbonemc2118]

Thanks for the vlog. It was interesting hearing the Honda comment about a box full of neutrals. I've had the same experience with a different bike and it really is annoying exaggerating your effort in gear changes but every cloud has a silver lining because my experience is that it goes away after the box has been run in a bit. I was more than surprised with the oggy knobs because I'd rather be replacing some casings and fairings instead of frames.

Ducvati fan boys going crazy :D

[@fastbikes]

They shouldn't, it's an incredible next generation weapon (and one hell of a road bike), it's just there are other bikes that are easier to ride fast, simples!

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Put 1100cc engines in any of the rest, and suddenly the strength of Ducati becomes as average as the others are.

[@kellyjensen9425]

Ducati 1199 Panigale S here. This was total crap! Totally unfair biased bs. Bahwafugah fookishima atwatah... Did you mean crazy like that? I was surprised to see the V4 that far from first but it didn't bother me. I want that RSV4 bad! I'd buy it even if it was in last place. I mean obviously since I ride on top of a furnace with 170 hp I call the bucking bronco.

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

It’s a bike for show and looks. They are a lot of work to ride hard on the track. Virtually no amateur [not factory supported] racers ride any generation of Panigale.

[@justingreen7274]

I can tell by that last thing he said obviously this is a test on the track and it's in regards to out of the Box but it would be cool to see the difference with a full exhaust and programmer on all of them . . .

[@chi500ridah2]

It was toooooo much of a drop for me for some bikes and tooooooo much of a rise for others. Fagen should have been selected to do the timed laps. Nothing against the other guy but the levels of inconsistency between all the bikes from last year’s test to this year was toooooooo much. The drop for the R1M and the rise of the BMW didn’t make any sense, the GIXXER dropped but better than an upgrade R1M??? Really????

[@fastbikes]

The track had a hand in things, no doubt, and you can't do anything other than say it how you find it, can you? This year, at this track, this is the way things were. And some of the differences are explainable, like this was the BMW 'Sport' S thou', a better version than we had last year which helped bump it above the Gixer and the R1M, with the new (not out last year) Ducati splitting them. The ZX SE was enough of an upgrade on the RR to place it above the blade this time around, etc etc. There's not actually massive differences if you really think about it and, of course, there's method to our madness...

[@chi500ridah2]

Fast Bikes Magazine I guess I can understand some of that reasoning however the BMW beating the R1M on any track is a suspect result considering their record on track in the “real” race world, the R1 kills that bike everywhere on every track all day long. The Bimmer was placed tooooo high on a “fastest/agility bike test” not to raise eyebrows considering it’s record on track when placed against its rivals, and I don’t even like Ducati but it was too low considering its record on track, etc. Fagen should have done the timed laps I think the change of the final test rider was key. The change in track played a part but the tell, tell signs were the placement of track focused bikes to their street Bike rivals.

[@fastbikes]

Fella, comparing proddy bikes with any racing results is a bit pointless, far too many variables goes into making a bike race worthy, even in Superstock classes, and that's before you even include the meat in charge. Though going by your reasoning, in the closest to proddy bike classes, Superstock, the R1 is getting its arse handed to it in BSB and the European series that runs with WSB, usually by BMWs. But honestly, even saying that means very little, and if you move up to WSB or whatever, the irrelevance to how proddy bikes compare against each other is so huge as to make it completely meaningless - aside from in manufacturer marketing departments of course! As for the man doing the lapping, they're about the same pace, the only real difference is one of them prefers far too much cheese on his burger! So, again, otherwise differences are pretty much completely explainable and bikes like the RSV, R1 and BMW have been up the top of the charts for years already anyway, for good reason.

[@chi500ridah2]

Fast Bikes Magazine maybe in the states it’s different and in WSBK but R1 routinely beats the Bimmer and it’s not even a question. I realize though that those bikes are a lot different from stock bikes that goes without saying but in our stock and superstock races here the results are the same R1 on top, Ducati on top, Bimmer DNF. Like I said it wasn’t just the R1 but it also beat a Ducati on track, lol that’s crazy. Also I’ve seen those two test riders on other reviews and the heavier one usually is on top, and is readily admitted to be faster by the skinny guy, lol! Anyway, anytime results change that dramatically where bikes that have actually been improved get worse placement in a test you know there have been other changes which affected the results, and the two things here are the track and the rider, my money is on the rider being the flaw. Also current BSB standing have the BMW at 9 & 10 with the R1 3 places ahead!

[@fastbikes]

Er, there's no way in hell Bruce would admit to being slower than Fagan (if he even is), the same goes the other way around though, ex racers both, neither would ever give quarter to another, verbally or on track, so not sure where you saw that! :-) The BSB thing, that's Superbikes not Superstock, and as we said the further up the class chain you go the more irrelevent any comp' becomes. Yeah Yamaha have been big guns in the States for a while, they were the only manufacturer to really support the racing over there after the AMA debacle and the 'dark times' (we won't speak their name...) thereafter until Rainey and Co came in to save the day and, even then, Yamaha have still been the most proactive manufacturer since then too (bar Yoshi Suzuki of course, and now Ducati are getting involved too), in all the classes, with the best support which also attracts the best teams and riders and, furthermore, racing also depends on the ruleset, some rules gives some bikes a wee bump up by proxy. So, racing/proddy comps, best left alone really, proper big minefield we can go back and forth with for hours! Cheers for the chat brother!

[@krissrock]

funny how the Honda had all those complaints, but didn't come in last...The panigale was designed with a specific tire size...as far as I'm aware of, which is only made by Pirelli. So they put a handicap on the panigale from the jump. But i'm confused as to why bridgestones were used as opposed to Pirelli Corsa's which have become the standard of track day and sport bike tires...

[@fastbikes]

Tyres were the right size for the Panigale, and the new R11s are stupidly good hoops, wouldn't have made any difference if they'd stayed on the Pirellis, plus the Panigale (like a couple of other bikes) has a tyre calibration system on it precisely because they know folk will change tyres. RSV was also 'developed' for Pirellis too.

[@-DC-]

Gsxr4life 😍

[@fwh79FOXR6]

That GSXR is GORGEOUS!!! Awesome color combo!

[@krayzieegg7294]

DynamiteDirk lol hell of a comment love it.

[@EEEBA1]

DynamiteDirk I agree the flip flops are a must!

[@Countryboy2206]

gsxr is like the mustang of the moto world...

[@herumusicman8200]

Most underrated bike, such a potential bike and manufacture

[@mavricxx]

The REAL question is which is the best on the street, the place most of us use them is out on the road not on a course and most have never even seen a course. Good review to a certain extent.

[@СергейИванов-щ4у8ч]

BMW S1000RR best of the best😍😍😍😍

[@logangallagher7050]

If a good and "dynamic" bike should produce good lap times then what the frig is the point in putting an MV 800 AND A 959 in the mix with 1000s

[@joaosoares3719]

So, in summary: buy the GSX-R1000R. It's the third best on track in this test and by far the best on the road and the best to own (it's the most comfortable in terms or ergos and the least expensive). The BMW is at the end of its production cycle and it's too heavy; the Aprilia is unbelievably uncomfortable on the road and unreliable.

[@fastbikes]

6 foot 2" here, and have toured on an RSV in complete comfort, and it didn't break down! Also ran one for six months commuting through winter a couple of years back, no problems there either. It's a far better road bike than many would credit it being. The Gixer is though, as you say, a brilliant machine all round, only missing two of the BMW's creature comforts to make it completely perfect.

[@davidbrandom444]

Who told you the RSV4 was uncomfortable. I'm on my second, and have put 23000 miles between them. I'm NEVER uncomfortable, though sometimes my brain is frazzled!

[@joaosoares3719]

My brother owned one and I rode it quite a bit. He's in the military, I'm a triathlete, none of us could ride for more than 3 hours on that thing (we're both over 6ft tough...). Great looks and amazing sound, but shit ergos and embarrassing reliability.

[@pommeybiker]

With the honda, surely it's worth some journalism getting in touch and seeing what they say? I haven't had a false ever on mine but I also adjusted the gear lever to my foot so it's effortless for a full shift. Surely you got contacts at honda. It's worth a whole article on its own.

[@fastbikes]

Oh we did, last year, coincidentally right about the time certain TT racers were effectively under gagging orders to not talk about the issues they'd had with the (then) new bike. Nothing wrong with it, apparently, in fact they were getting quite irate with anyone (not just us, far from it) saying anything negative about the bike. Head, sand, etc...

[@pommeybiker]

Reckon its worth another go? should be able to replicate on a dyno?

[@fastbikes]

We've had three on the dyno, including both from SBOTY (17 & 18) and it never raised its head. Never had it happen on the road and you can sometimes go a whole session without it happening once, but then it can happen a whole bunch of times. The real big one is slipping out of gear under acceleration and that's happened to a few of us the last two years, bloody scary if you're still banked over. Yes we could try again, but to be quite honest getting a straight answer, given it appears a random(ish) issue, won't be straight forward, if at all possible in the first place. Allow us to cogitate on it further...

[@pommeybiker]

get the guys at JHS on it, i love watching them anyway

[@exothermal.sprocket]

For all the engineering prowess of Honda, it's unacceptable. If the issue really boils down to adding a few thousandths of an inch of metal to a transmission part to guarantee it would never happen ever again, why all the corporate and PR political rubbish? Just fix it and do it quickly. It was working just fine for a long time until Honda "upgraded" the Fireblade for the first time in a long time. Well, they fixed what wasn't broken in the case of transmission function.

[@zissou6928]

44teeth said the exact opposite of the pan vs rsv4. Who do we believe lol

[@jessemartinez4601]

9enius exactly probably just different riders and differences of opinion every racer likes the r1 as well but not in this case

[@RecluseRR]

They both said the RSV4 is faster because the V4 Pani is really wild/hard to ride.

[@hnic72]

Tom J. O exactly.. The rsv4 was the faster/the fastest during both tests

[@jessemartinez4601]

Ehm Ee in a straight line no

[@andrewford80]

@aztec Warrior, nobody really cares about straight line. We're talking laptimes.

[@simono5114]

Would still get the R1 just for the engine, but I do ride an MT10 and I'm born into a Yamaha family so I may be a bit biased.

[@fastbikes]

The man likes what the man likes - nowt wrong with that, and the R1 is still boss, like every bike here!

[@rennrodriguez8909]

The Best Bike iS The Yamaha R1Master..!

[@duc996red]

There are rumours aboug a nev MV Agusta F4 in 2020. Looking forward to see it and read reviews. I have a tuned up 1078rr today (2008, 180hk on rear wheel) with SIL racing exh. Realy fast and just love it. Made 30k km in 3 years. Perfect bike for a 62 yo speed junkie😊👍

[@jimclarke1108]

H2 is a street legal bike

[@andrews4293]

Jim Clarke to bad it’s an ugly bike

[@texbacalian5036]

Andrew S @6:57,"Ducati Panigale 959 Corsa is eeeaasily the most beautiful bike in the contest". Yet it is rated last at #9.

[@ReaLzEdits]

H2 is the best looking bike to me.

[@pcodyssey41]

I really want to try out the RSV4 but I've heard it's not for shorter riders and I'm 5'9" with a 29" inseam, I barely fit on the S1000RR at stock height.

[@fastbikes]

One of us at two inches over six-foot, used one for months, including touring, and commuting through winter, with no issues. Far more comfy than you'd credit it being on the face of things.

[@mishaalraza]

Same height here no issues, got the RSV4 myself...

[@jdord4838]

Great comprehensive review, looks like Aprilia git the formula right..."Yeshua (Jesus Christ) is the way"

[@tomdolby46]

Great video 👍 As a life-long Ducati fan with a 1098S in my garage, I can’t help but feel slightly disappointed that the Panigale V4S is so low in this list. But, at least I know not to upgrade to the V4 until the kinks are worked out 💪

[@fastbikes]

For the road it's phenomenal, very different from the twin. And as we said, wafer thin degrees of separation here, every bike is amazing, had this been an all round aspects test it may very well have won or been higher up - but this is SBOTY!

[@BlueRage]

Bet you $1 Kawasaki steals VVT from Suzuki very soon.

[@saltandoalvacio5736]

Amazing and very professional comparative!!! Congratulations! Where are the time laps? :)

[@fastbikes]

Thank you! Lap times, speeds and stacks more info and in-depth analysis are in the print magazine, link in the description above if you're interested.

[@saltandoalvacio5736]

Thank you so much! A big like!