Fast Commute with Milan SL mk7 Velomobile

How fast I can ride my commute? This was the first warm(ish) day of the spring (20.5.2022), so I decided to try how this Milan velomobile flies.
Milan SL mk7 velomobile provided by Velomobileworld.com
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Käänteishitti by dj Saukki
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0:00 Intro
1:00 Traffic lights
2:46 Frost bumps
4:19 GPS Data
5:41 Accelerating
8:00 Highest hill
9:42 Highway with bad music
11:48 The village
13:26 Well, how fast was it?
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[@marcin.sobocinski]

God only knows how entertaining is your accent 😀😜

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

It’s called ”rally english”

[@andreas4687]

good Didgeridoo skills. Ancient Australiens are pleased.

[@brrrogers]

1:50!!! YES MY HOMIE YES!!!! I am just rewatching it with my GF, we are on the final 3 episodes. ITs still as good as the first time!! peace Love So Say We All

[@brrrogers]

PS Voyager is GREAT too

[@madissiimkull]

Good music 50 Km/h max speed on 100% human power? Amazing!!

[@patrickkenney1080]

What a great video-what fun!!!!

[@cedricg.2732]

Thanks for your work dude ! Very nice to see your videos, those are still getting better and better :D

[@Terra_Lopez]

I'm trying to work out if his videos are sped up. He seems to be going so fast! What do you think?

[@holywatergum6890]

Love you Saukki

[@philherb3843]

I comute on a speed pedelec (so it is an UP), and I have nearly the same average speed. My power meter and my battery consumption tell me, that I have a combined power output of about 900 Watt (16Wh/km motor*42km + 230W/h human power, the comute is one hour). So the velomobile is extremly efficent, consuming only less then a quarter.

[@Terra_Lopez]

I'm trying to work out if his videos are sped up. He seems to be going so fast! What do you think?

[@philherb3843]

@@Terra_Lopez The videos are not sped up. This is real. I drove with velomobiles, too (don't have my own yet). Outside of a city, you are better on a bicycle path or small roads. In cities, you better drive on the street. You can't accelerate as fast as a car, but your speed matches after acceleration.

[@Terra_Lopez]

@@philherb3843 Wow, that's amazing -- thank you!

[@ultralightoutdoorkitchenun5867]

I commute with mi Milan SL MK7 too. Nearly 70 Km per Day. I love it. Thank you for your tips and nice Velomobile Hacks👍

[@danielschaaf7523]

I thought I had watched all your videos as you post them but had not seen this one. When I ride, I play techno music and when you played your music, I loved it! I have ridden a DFXL for 5½ years and always play my music on rides!

[@karlInSanDiego]

Thanks for the inspirational ride, and love your music too!

[@marcin.sobocinski]

Dziękujemy.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Thanks! 🤩

[@outtyoutdoors]

I def like the added power and speed display. Lets me see how much effort is being put out and how i can compare to that with my quest xs. Im probably a lot heavier rider than u are though so i often use w/kg wen referring to my ftp. Cuz otherwise my ftp would be impressive lol.

[@tomandalbert]

I like your review and am happy you have the Milan for the summer. Great content.

[@rainbowrailroadcrossing7798]

Yo I love Battlestar! Not many people reference the quotes or the show much as some of the older fans

[@Franzliegt]

Really good stuff. Helge's Milan in real conditions. Seeing you having fun. And groovie background vinbes. Nice.

[@njm3211]

Excellent Saukki, entertaining and informative as usual. Ciao from Italy

[@Taoweiji]

And so say we all!

[@ratdog4591]

great stuff,,, like the speed and rpm and watt meter in view

[@MSSmith1022]

I like the data display on the video and I like the "Viper" name. I watched the original "Battlestar Galactica" in the 1970s and 80s and I loved that show growing up.

[@15a86]

I was waiting for your milan video! The protection of the bottom of my milan was effective by attaching a stainless steel band for fixing the pipe with thick double-sided tape.

[@marcerler5488]

Danke!

[@jukkax1042]

Nice! summertime, Saukki and velomobiles are back. I like those speed and power displays.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Thanks!

[@velogonza]

Cool! Can you record video with speed display directly on camera?

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

@@velogonza no: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIunk5WPqr2eatU

[@michelmercier5069]

Merci !!!

[@fuhkoffandie]

The track is good, but you know what's missing? the perfect video to go with your track. You are in your velomobile, riding through a city, like Las Vegas, or New York City. set up the camera right behind you, while you ride through the city at night, all the bright lights shining on you, the reflection lighting up the side of your velomobile as you roll by. occasionally speeding up the footage real fast, so you get light trails off of all the bright city lights, and all that while playing your audio track. yep. the ultimate audio/video experience. 💥🤯💥💯💯💯

[@julesvelomobile]

I think it takes 35 minutes for you to travel to work in the Milan. Now… let’s unpause. Anyways thank you for making this videos sauki

[@julesvelomobile]

Wow almost got it right. That’s fast. I am glad if I can hit avg of 30 on my comute route with my qv.

[@ShutterGuts]

Boy do I miss my commutes now that I am working at home. Working from home is great but the daily rides are just total Zen. There is nothing to compare it to.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

You can still ”commute” to work, even though you work from home. It’s just that the start and end of the ride is at the same location. Between those points it’s just your imagination 😉

[@cameronlaw8161]

you are lucky, you get to pick the perfect time for you to ride,replace commute with exersize

[@notroll1279]

I didn't watch any of your commute videos before - so, based on the assumption that nothing but the 2 traffic lights would slow you down, I guessed a wildly optimistic 30 minutes. Never been in a velomobile yet - just by the assumption that the Milan SL is one of the fastest velomobiles out there... Mind you, if it took you 34 minutes, I'd probably take around 55...

[@awesimo4684]

I've always sworn the fastest weather is light rain. Preferably a break in the rain. I never understood why, until one day it hit me. Rain is often the result of low air pressure, low air pressure means less air resistance.

[@CuulX]

Please upload käänteisshitti by dj Saukki in a separate video so I can add it to my playlist 👍 I like seeing all the data like power and the long form velomobile video, so thanks for that ad well.

[@tri-seeker2753]

Well, you have simply so lovely commute. Nice wide dedicated (mostly 🙂) paths... 25km with 10m of climbing is SO flat and comfy! My daily ride is way shorter (like 5km) and I have to deal with almost 100 of vertical meters. I just have to laugh to your phobia of those frost bumps - I'd love to have those as my worst enemy to deal with! 😀 Just a question: How's maneuverability of your velo? Some corners look like you''re on max of capabilities and have to cut it to make it through...

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Maneuverability is good enough. Not quite as good as QV or Quest, but close enough. No problems on my commute.

[@cloudbuster6735]

Use cano tape on the feet bubbles avoiding friction

[@zacharymohrmann4329]

I like the video I did not like the track chosen for listening pleasure... I want to buy a velo but all we have here in the US is recumbents and still the Sheriff's department and local police when ever crossing their path give me a cold stare as if to say Ill get you just step out of line....! The cost of shipping to the USA is very expensive so I just ride my Fat Cat Custom Quad which was bought for me thru a couple friends who started a party to finance the cost buy selling tickets to a BBQed Hog and beer bash They were able to raise the cost and a few extra dollars to use at my leisure... Great Friends I have and I love them all...!

[@walterretlaw4051]

(...voy a escribir en mi idioma porque la hegemonía mundial del idioma inglés me cansa un poco..) Muy bueno el video, lo ví de principio a fin. Ojalá Argentina tuviese esas bicisendas al costado de las rutas para que los entusiastas puedan despuntar el vicio. Tengo algunas preguntas : ¿qué son esos "kw" que marcan los relojes? ¿Sería algo así como la energía generada por el mecanismo de transmisión (y que es almacenada en algún lugar) o la energía quemada por el metabolismo del ciclista? Otra cosa : si el velomóvil es un aparato mecánico...¿por qué no se emplearon HP o CV como unidad de potencia? Excelente video... Saludos!

[@felicetanka]

Es la energia producida desde el pedal o caja pedalera. Se usa de dato para entrenar y eficiencia.Pienso que éste velom. no lo almacena.

[@walterretlaw4051]

@@felicetanka Aaahh OK... pero muchas gracias...Saludos.

[@DrewNorthup]

Comparison time…I'm not how relative "out of shape" is here, but here's the basics from my 24km loop ride earlier today (to get out of the house before three hours of videoconference meetings and the outside temperature hit 27°C). I've done unit conversions here since most of the world uses metric. 24.38km 1:15 (hh:mm) 49.2 km/h max (steep downhill) 19.5 km/h avg moving Total ascent: 124m (several hills) Bike: Rans Velocity Squared

[@froggomobile]

Is you temperature sensor placed inside a big ice cube? ... still trying to figure out how to keep the temperature below 30 degrees celsius... 🙂

[@kjeldsloot]

Thank you for this intresting video. I lie your content and your shop stuff. (I have some bags and shirts from your store.) I heard directly that was a didgeridoo. Because I'm a didgeridoo player for 10 years now. Also I heard it is a bamboo didgeridoo(I think). Maybe I can play something for you? I need to make new video's as well because covid I didn't play that much. So no new vids for 3 years.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

It’s actually eucalyptus didgeridoo 😉

[@kjeldsloot]

@@TheVelomobileChannel Ow nice. Quality is Eucalyptus. I have about 20 different didgeridoos. Also collecting them on shape and how rare they are.I have like an double eucalyptus.(with two mouthpieces and one end.)

[@EdouardTavinor]

Do you think you could find the time to do a comparison with the QV? :)

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

I might find 🤔 But I’ve made some speed tests to compare between Milan, Quatrevelo & Quest. The video is coming later this summer. It’s not on my commuting route, though.

[@edmorgan960]

Long commute! Have you ever hit wildlife? We've almost hit deer twice( actually they came running acrosd the bike path) right in front of us

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

I’ve had one close call. Once a animal (not quite sure was it otter or beaver or something else, it happened so fast) run acros the road so close to my velomobile that it just touched the nose of my Quest.

[@mass4552]

I hope you see this but I was wondering if you ever got a chance to test drive a Pod Bike, the Norwegian velomobile.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

No, I haven’t tested it. Would be very interesting, though.

[@Mike-oz4cv]

Looks like quite a dangerous commute with all the intersections between normal roads and cyclepaths. Also the narrow underpasses with sharp turns. I’d just ride the main road, especially with a velomobile. Faster, less stressful and probably safer.

[@fratink]

I'm so jealous of all the bike paths you have in Finland, in Saskatchewan bicycling is still seen as a nuisance by many drivers and there's very little dedicated infrastructure.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Too bad in North America there’s no freedom to choose your way of transportation. You are forced to take a car 😕

[@fratink]

@@TheVelomobileChannel Yeah, I only really realized this after watching your channel and "Not Just Bikes". It's kinda crazy. Love your channel BTW, thank you for sharing all your experiences with velomobiles, I'm really excited to try one someday.

[@4nz-nl]

Oh btw, I don't corner slower with my Milan (GT) than I do with the Quatrevelo. Just be prepared to correct a lifting wheel :-)

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Milan is actually quite good in fast corners. Way better than Quest. But still I feel more comfortable cornering with QV 😄

[@planilhador]

How is the ventilation? How to not become too hot? How is the air renovation inside? Did you ever ride above 28 C?

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

In hot weather I ride without the hood.

[@dougmaverick3287]

Last year I bought my first recumbent bike, a used Bacchetta Giro. It is a lot of fun, much more comfortable and faster than my mountain bike, or diamond frame road bikes. A month ago I bought my first trike, a used Catrike 700. The trike is very quick, even faster than my recumbent bike, I like going fast. So the next logical step would be a velomobile. Of all the Velomobiles you have written personally, which one is the fastest? One thing about the cat trike 700 is that the ride is very firm very stiff no suspension travel at all. Do velomobiles have suspension, and if so how much travel?

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Velomobiles usually have suspension. The fastest one I’ve tested is probably the Milan SL, but the Bülk is probably as fast as Milan. Or at least the difference is tiny.

[@jirivrana3623]

Beautiful machine, sad part is the price its like can be compared to some small new car and its simpli too much. Now when gas price hit new record, i hope production of velomobiles will go bigger and price down but i dont thing it will happened anytime soon.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Yeah, component prices are high as well, so I doubt they could bring the velomobile prices down even though they could increase the production 🤔

[@Velogi]

Mä olenkin missannut tän että sulla on tuollainenkin kinneri käytössä. Onko sulla nuo kamerat kiinni pelkällä tarralla? Ja pysyy?

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Joo ne on liimattavilla GoPro kiinnikkeillä. Hyvin on pysynyt kaikki nämä vuodet. Aikaisemmat Sonyn kamerat oli selkeästi kevyempiä, niillä ei yhtään epäillyt tarran pysymistä. Nämä DJI:t on vähän painavempia. Aluksi epäilytti, että niinköhän pysyy, mutta ei ole ollut mitään ongelmia. Aika rankassakin rytkytyksessä lumisella & jäisellä tiellä on pysynyt kiinni.

[@MarsuCooper]

What program do you use for the GPS overlay?

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

I’m using Garmin Virb Edit.

[@dragster100]

I guess the main problem of velomobiles is that they are too expensive!

[@Hmmmppffff]

Pretty Sure those Actionscams eat heavy into the speed. @45kmh easy over 10 Watt 😮

[@TheNone724]

Just fit milan with tsdz2 and small 2kg battery and see it fly. If you can go 50kmh with pedal power no one can prove that you did it with electric assist :D

[@arjenhoogcarspel4193]

40 minutes??

[@andreashenzler7124]

You ride as fast as a car, but there is no crumple zone, hopefully you won't have an accident, like me, I hope the producer will focus on more passive safety!!!

[@4nz-nl]

Actually, there is a crumple zone. The Milan is very well design for both front and rear impact, and you're so far reclined that you won't "fly through the windshield" that easily. Side impact is the biggest problem of almost all velomobiles (maybe except Quatrevelo and Alpha 9/M9). Last things last: if all people would actually ride this instead of drive a car, crumple zones would be a lot less important...

[@andreashenzler7124]

@@4nz-nl This was my Problem, that there is no sideprotection, the car hit me from the right side, I broke all my ripps on the right side and had an heavy impact to my head, also my neck got hurt, luckily it didn't break completely.

[@hendrikdependrik1891]

Indeed. He has to cross many intersection I would have reduced my speed to 30 km/h because of blind corners.

[@igorilyasov2057]

17 min?

[@kudosbudo]

8:01 imagine how good it would be in teh Uk if they actually did this! Actually built bridges for bicycles. Instead of makign us take the road by ending a bike lane. It really gets to me how crap the UK is in terms of actually putting good infra into place. Or well ANY infra.

[@Yoggoth]

I like your didgeridoo playing. And there is no "Thanks!" button, sorry 🙂

[@masirosendahl7673]

37min 31sec

[@RADAN99]

😂⚰️🙈

[@4nz-nl]

Two reasons the Milan accelerates worse than the QV: The drivetrain is less rigid and seems to run in a less ideal line than that of the Quatrevelo. I'll upload a video on that rigidity issue to Instagram soon. Also, because you are more reclined, it's harder to put out big power (but you do get used to it to an extent). The aerodynamic design makes up for most of the aforementioned power loss. I must say though: Your power output seems quite high for the speed I see you riding with a Milan SL + BM hood (comparing to my commutes with the Milan GT Mk6, with clothes, laptops, screen, shoes etc.). Is the aligment okay? What tires are you running? Or do you REALLY have shitty asphalt over there? 🤣

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

I have same feeling about the power. It seems high. But I do have 2 cameras mounted, which ruins the aerodynamics. According to my test, cameras add about 10 watts. I have checked the alignment according to manufacturers instructions. Though not sure should I trust them. Maybe I have to check it again with my own method 🤔

[@veloalien3201]

Milan is low to the ground which leaves very little room for the drivetrain. maximum chainring for milan is 60 tooth, over that you will create to much tension on the chain inside the tubes which causes more friction. i tried 80tooth and 60 tooth, with 60 you will be much "faster" what i mean is that you will create less resistance on the chain and save watts. also optimum weight for milan is 70 kilograms. the wheels are pretty much straight to the ground, if you weight more then 70 kilogramms it will create more friction by bending the wheels and wheelalligment is bad if you weight more then 70 kilos. especially in corners. this is not the case with df or alpha7 where the wheels are more "diagonal" since the start if you put lots of weight they go forward. milan is good bike for skinny high RPM guys then it will be the fastest VM today.

[@4nz-nl]

@@veloalien3201 I'm surprised by your statement. Run a 65 in my Milan (GT) myself but I see a lot of torquey guys run a 75 or 80 tooth in their SL and they go fast as hell. Also, the GT corners like on rails, I literally haven't been in a velomobile which drives better (I have quite a bit of track experience in cars, and my former vms were QV+, DF XL, Quest). Lastly: I used to be closer to 100 kg but now I'm 95, always travel with lots of luggage and the wheels are fine. I did have problems with earlier TL-ready wheels (some Italian brand I believe), but my current AlexRims are fine for about 15000 km now.

[@veloalien3201]

@@4nz-nl milan GT is completly different vehicle compared to SL.

[@4nz-nl]

@@veloalien3201 I'm aware of the differences - own both a GT and an SL ;) The SL is a little bit more tippy but except from it being waaay too small for me, it doesn't feel like a terrible different vehicle. Also, I'm not sure whether it came with the 63 or 70 tooth I have here, but I tend to think it's the 70 (as the other one came with a DF).

[@alexanderh2715]

40 min

[@szkielet137]

44 minutes

[@veryveryintense]

I guess 22 minutes to work edit: ok that was a dumb guess, I have watched pretty much every video and your commute is not the best for velomobiles and In my head I assumed you would average 45kph or so. Do you feel like it would be inconsiderate to go on the highway instead of the bike paths or is there a rule against it? I use bike paths most of the time but not when they force me to cross many intersections or business entrances because it is either dangerous or way slower than the road.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

In the city during rush hour the bike parh is faster. And technically it’s forbidden to ride on road if bikepath is available. With lot of traffic and rumblestrips, I feel more comfortable on the bike path, which I know quite well. But if I go to another city, then I prefer to ride on the road (even though technically I’m not allowed), because I don’t feel comfortable riding on unknown bike path.

[@jurivlk5433]

In fact, you' re loosing power by wiggling the whole velomobile with every turn of the crank. Watch the nose of the velomobile and the road lines!

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

That’s true. The mass of my legs moving around sure creates some wiggling. But also not sure if my pedaling technique is good enough. There’s probably lots of room for improvement.

[@Paul_C]

Yeah, I really didn't like the music... Sorry, mum always said be honest when asked for an opinion 🙃

[@uwefischer8298]

Das sieht so aus wie zu Beginn der Mobilitätsanfang, Alles dreht sich um möglichst schnell fahren zu können. Dann doch lieber mit Motor. Fahrrad fahren, eingeschlossen in einer Dose, gar nicht geil.