Fast Pokémon Can Ignore Trick Room. Here's How.

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Freezai

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Ай бұрын

Trick Room, 2010-2024
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@LazariusThomas
@LazariusThomas Ай бұрын
Regieleki being so fast that it actually outspeeds trick room is some wally west level shit
@yoshimeier3060
@yoshimeier3060 Ай бұрын
So if you have 8000 speed - does that effect electroball damage?
@deadlyviper_
@deadlyviper_ Ай бұрын
@@yoshimeier3060 electro ball caps at 150bp if the target has 25% or less of the user's speed, aka if the target has 25 speed and the user has 100
@jellycore1316
@jellycore1316 Ай бұрын
​@@yoshimeier3060OH GOD Imagine, though! XD
@CrystalKitty1220
@CrystalKitty1220 Ай бұрын
Wasn't he the slowest one?
@teguhimamsetiawan3489
@teguhimamsetiawan3489 Ай бұрын
​@@CrystalKitty1220 no, my dude, he's the fastest one
@VGV1deo
@VGV1deo Ай бұрын
Fun Fact: all the Pokémon that do manage to beat trick toon get put into basically their own separate trick room, so that 1812 Excadrill would move before the 2192 Regieleki
@TylerjWebb
@TylerjWebb Ай бұрын
That's so interesting. Thanks for pointing that out.
@nicholsethanen
@nicholsethanen Ай бұрын
If the bug works the way freezai explained in this video, then this makes literally 0 sense that it would be true
@meltysnow9137
@meltysnow9137 Ай бұрын
@@nicholsethanen Why not? Excadrill's speed under trick room would be 10000-1812=8188, while Regieleki's would be 10000-2192=7808
@VGV1deo
@VGV1deo Ай бұрын
@@nicholsethanen In Trick Room, an 1812 speed Excadrill has effectively 8188 speed while the 2192 Regieleki has 7808, meaning Excadrill would go first, does this explain it?
@Bea5rs
@Bea5rs Ай бұрын
@@nicholsethanendid you not understand the video
@metawolf987
@metawolf987 Ай бұрын
Regieleki is a certified Speed Force user.
@watupbro871
@watupbro871 Ай бұрын
YO THATS A COOL ABILITY NAME (Speed Force)
@watupbro871
@watupbro871 Ай бұрын
YO THATS A COOL ABILITY NAME (Speed Force)
@blaquephyrekendra1779
@blaquephyrekendra1779 Ай бұрын
IT WAS ME, BARRY!!! 😈
@TheDeathmail
@TheDeathmail Ай бұрын
He's literally lightning... as in, the speed force itself...
@klinkklark255
@klinkklark255 Ай бұрын
*A certified 13 bit overflow user*
@madduxnagel6935
@madduxnagel6935 Ай бұрын
“The opposing Slowbro twisted the dimensions!” Regieleki: "I recognize that the council has made a decision, but given that it’s a stupid-ass decision, I’ve Elekted to ignore it.”
@scipocelah6677
@scipocelah6677 Ай бұрын
"I've Elekted to ignore it." ftfy
@madduxnagel6935
@madduxnagel6935 Ай бұрын
@@scipocelah6677 Fixed.
@bigfudge2031
@bigfudge2031 Ай бұрын
Regieleki: "You are in this trick room, but we do not grant you the ability to move first" Slowbro: "How can you do this? This is outrageous! It's unfair! How can you *be* in the trick room and *not* move first?
@madduxnagel6935
@madduxnagel6935 Ай бұрын
@@bigfudge2031 Take a seat, young Slowbro.
@raidev_
@raidev_ 23 күн бұрын
I've regielekted
@doctorreed_
@doctorreed_ Ай бұрын
this is some fucking wally west shit
@dasaiyantv8483
@dasaiyantv8483 Ай бұрын
Regieleki is basically Wally when the writers decided to make it canon that he's "faster than the Speed Force" itself
@cadetsparklez3300
@cadetsparklez3300 Ай бұрын
isnt time travel more the reverse flashes thing?
@Buggy_DClown
@Buggy_DClown Ай бұрын
@@cadetsparklez3300it’s every flash’s thing tbh
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 Ай бұрын
​@@cadetsparklez3300it's more that reverse flash is the one irresponsible enough to actually do it and leave the consequences to be someone else's problem.
@scylla1772
@scylla1772 22 күн бұрын
The world is Wally's trick room, and he's the slowest man in existence
@castform7618
@castform7618 Ай бұрын
Slowbro: how, how are you going this fast. This is supposed to be my domain. Regieleki: Fool! You merely tampered with something I mastered. I am the essence of the very speed you wish to alter.
@Milolaidus
@Milolaidus Ай бұрын
Your speed is only temporary, mine builds for eternity.
@aegisScale
@aegisScale Ай бұрын
"I am four parallel universes ahead of you, Slowbro."
@josoares6284
@josoares6284 Ай бұрын
Most epic comment ever.
@samueljo7910
@samueljo7910 23 күн бұрын
I have already swept through multiple alternate VGC tournaments in this time
@calvinnguyen1870
@calvinnguyen1870 Ай бұрын
Obviously this would never happen in a real competitive setting, but I think it’s really fitting that Regieleki is able to do so. It’s just another thing that can be added to the list of this mon’s heinous war crimes.
@hippopolove
@hippopolove Ай бұрын
1:53 This isn't a tournament here ? He said real battle
@admiralpotato1809
@admiralpotato1809 8 күн бұрын
​@@hippopolovethats a showdown tournament at lvl 100. Vgc is generally played at lvl 50s
@heavymetalsazabi4333
@heavymetalsazabi4333 7 күн бұрын
Its stupid but you can baton pass +3 to a scarf eleki under tailwind and hit 2k speed so beat up whims with tail wind into a rattled mon with baton pass isn't impossible...
@presidenttogekiss635
@presidenttogekiss635 Ай бұрын
realistically, Ninjask is the one most likely to reach that, since it has 160 base speed and buffs it every turn.
@hiimemily
@hiimemily Ай бұрын
Math checks out, a max investment Jolly Ninjask has 460 speed, so at +6 it reaches 1840.
@presidenttogekiss635
@presidenttogekiss635 Ай бұрын
Yeah, if we´re talking a common sub protect ninjask (maybe an Anything Goes baton pass team) vs a Trick Room team, ninjask could easily use protect and substitute to stall trick room turns, only to end up outspeeding even in trick room as Speed Boost reaches +6@@hiimemily
@jamesfeng24
@jamesfeng24 Ай бұрын
if we're talking realistically ninjask is literally never going to be used in VGC nor will it last long enough to even get to +6. and there ain't nobody using baton pass ninjask in natdex ubers lmao.
@cryochick9044
@cryochick9044 Ай бұрын
Ehh You need Jolly doubtable any ninjask is going to run Jolly when they can protect turn 1 instead So you'd need a faster mon to be passed to, so deoxys speed potentially could do it hits 459 without Jolly, but then if you're baton passing buffs why pass it to a deoxys speed? I think honest a DOU rapid spin mon on an tailwind team are the most likely canidates to do this. In singles and vgc it likely will never happen.
@tbone6032
@tbone6032 Ай бұрын
@@jamesfeng24this is way harder to do in VGC because the mons are level 50 so the speed is much lower. A plus 6 regieleki wouldn’t even pass 1809
@kamishin7135
@kamishin7135 Ай бұрын
Slow Bro: "Domain Expansion TRICK ROOM" Regieleki: "Ah yes, my Anti Trick Room technique, I haven't used it since the Heian Era. It's called moving really fast"
@theholyknight9490
@theholyknight9490 Ай бұрын
Pretty much a simple domain
@antiskyze
@antiskyze 23 күн бұрын
hollow wicker basket
@atheontimesconflux1067
@atheontimesconflux1067 20 күн бұрын
Regileleki and his domain expansion: Malevolent SPD. Stat.
@1000Tomatoes
@1000Tomatoes Ай бұрын
That's a really cool glitch I have no issue with it staying. Being able to outspeed trick room is such anime nonsense I love it.
@THEFRISKIESTDINGO
@THEFRISKIESTDINGO Ай бұрын
Mash vs Abyss energy
@nope6792
@nope6792 21 күн бұрын
Ikr!?!! Plus, I can totally see Pokemon doing something like that with Ash since it would be the kind of strategy he would pull off with no plan whatsoever.
@Lou-yf1jo
@Lou-yf1jo 19 күн бұрын
wdym the anime makes perfect sense
@anghainguyen9951
@anghainguyen9951 5 күн бұрын
​@@nope6792well he break trisk room in XY using Hawlucha X-Scissor so i guess the move make Hawlucha go over 2000 speed lol :v
@nope6792
@nope6792 3 күн бұрын
@@anghainguyen9951 Omg, I forgot about that LMAO. I guess they already used that bit.
@U2B4U
@U2B4U Ай бұрын
So this is what Goku did to Hit
@unlimitedlimiter4285
@unlimitedlimiter4285 Ай бұрын
I literally said in my head regieleki really thinks he's jiren breaking out of hit's time cage
@10Gpixels
@10Gpixels Ай бұрын
I love this glitch. It's like the Pokemon goes so unfathomably fast, they break the binding of trick room itself.
@MelodyBarrens
@MelodyBarrens Ай бұрын
Regieleki: I'm the fastest. Slowbro: I used trick room. Regieleki: I'M THE FASTEST!
@renatoramos8834
@renatoramos8834 Ай бұрын
Change that to "DID I STUTTER?"
@Kailova07
@Kailova07 Ай бұрын
To have a value overflow problem because the value DOESN’T overflow is a very GameFreak programming move. 7.8/10 needs more overflow
@SJrad
@SJrad Ай бұрын
Regieleki: “i am 4 parallel universes ahead of you”
@sunwooryu9588
@sunwooryu9588 Ай бұрын
I like how showdown implemented the trick room exactly how it is in the actual game
@jimbb
@jimbb Ай бұрын
By design, showdown is supposed to be an exact simulation of the main game, so that means any glitch that is in the main game will also be present in showdown so it stays an exact simulator lol
@themanbehindyou.216
@themanbehindyou.216 Ай бұрын
That's one thing that is great about Showdown. Their intention is not to make pokemon battling better, but to make pokemon battling *easier.* It's the same pokemon battling from the games, just made really, really comfortable
@Aquilenne
@Aquilenne Ай бұрын
@@jimbb Most known glitches at least. IIRC there have been glitches that they accidentally patched out because the weren't discovered for ages. e.g. gen 1 same type secondary effect immunity. I think the Acid Rain glitch isn't on the official ladder for its gen either (but is optionally available in customs).
@petelee2477
@petelee2477 Ай бұрын
​@@jimbbdoes a pretty poor job considering acid rain is not present.
@plaguekidd6902
@plaguekidd6902 Ай бұрын
This is the most anime deus ex machina tom-foolery I’ve seen in a Pokémon game
@nightshockplayz5894
@nightshockplayz5894 Ай бұрын
So when Ash was trying to use flame charge in trick room, he was actually trying to achieve this LMAO...
@natlus_
@natlus_ Ай бұрын
Bonus info: 1809 is the optimal speed for trick room, anything faster will go after it. You can keep using mod 8192 to work out anything above 8192, it will keep the same properties. The highest possible speed possible in-game with no modding/hacking is 13152 (i posted a video on this account doing it). 13152 mod 8192 is 4960 which is the effective speed stat of that pokemon and because it is above 1808 it still outspeeds trick room.
@Kayther33
@Kayther33 Ай бұрын
i think this is a great thing and is my head canon that is not a glitch, literally if you are too fast you can outspeed trickroom itself
@senny-
@senny- Ай бұрын
I think this is why Gamefreak never fixed. It became this cool Easter Egg.
@hankboog462
@hankboog462 Ай бұрын
It makes me imagine a scene of regieleki getting caught in trick room, freezing for a second, and then vibrating intensely as the trick room shatters and it continues to zip around
@nickyheart
@nickyheart Ай бұрын
​@@hankboog462that's so silly omg
@jaykhobrekar3619
@jaykhobrekar3619 Ай бұрын
Yeah I also like to believe that. Imagine how cool it would be in anime
@Bird-wz7nx
@Bird-wz7nx Ай бұрын
Its remained unfixed for so long that I think they decided its a feature, like the pokedoll marowak thing
@SuperSdm7
@SuperSdm7 Ай бұрын
Funnily enough outspeeding trick room can be semi-reliably triggered. However this only really applies in level 100 doubles formats. All you need is pelipper and a swift swim user that has agility (or anything that gives a +2 speed boost) and base speed above 54. In 1 turn, you can use a +2 speed boosting move on the swift swim user and tailwind on pelipper to guarantee a trick room outspeed. (Only caveat is the the swift swim user must be max speed invested)
@d0rkl0rd92
@d0rkl0rd92 Ай бұрын
the worst bit is that this is literally so easy to fix just make their new speed 8192 - their old speed instead
@GeorgeDCowley
@GeorgeDCowley Ай бұрын
Would a negative speed break the game?
@d0rkl0rd92
@d0rkl0rd92 Ай бұрын
@@GeorgeDCowley speed can underflow in the same way that it overflows
@GeorgeDCowley
@GeorgeDCowley Ай бұрын
@@d0rkl0rd92 OK, that matters.
@fionat.6411
@fionat.6411 Ай бұрын
Makes you wonder why they blatantly put 10000 in there instead of thinking about that for a second
@MercuryA2000
@MercuryA2000 Ай бұрын
They could also just- set the turn order calculation to reverse when trick room is up. It can't be that hard to implement.
@InanamGames
@InanamGames Ай бұрын
I like the idea of that the speed barrier is actually the minimun speed you need to bend space and time around you, so if you are fast enough you straight up ignore any space and time shenanigans like trick room.
@tiaguinho_samba
@tiaguinho_samba Ай бұрын
you have done a video about that haven't you? i remembered this glitch one of this days and thied to find your video but just couldn't to find the explanation for that
@fellow9939
@fellow9939 Ай бұрын
so instead of taking the calculated turn order and going in reverse; something that's trivial to program, the devs decided to abuse an integer overflow to make trick room work? what kind of 4AM sleep-deprived over-engineered solution is that? what, so you wouldn't have to manually account for priority moves or something?
@blazechaos212
@blazechaos212 Ай бұрын
Pretty much yeah
@VideoGamer110
@VideoGamer110 Ай бұрын
I'd imagine it's to factor in moves that would change a speed stat/turn order mid-turn, like tailwind?
@EinMarchen
@EinMarchen Ай бұрын
now gamefreak has a reason to justify their lazy game updates and lack of pokemon animations, they all use their resources programming trick room
@iridium137
@iridium137 Ай бұрын
They could also just do 8191-speed instead of 10000-speed. Same concept, except much harder to glitch.
@Kiddragon6
@Kiddragon6 Ай бұрын
Worse. They set up a quick fix to make Trick Room work, accidentally caused an overflow, realized it did not really cause issues, and never bothered to fix it. Even while keeping their current solution, the easy fix would be to substract the speed by 8192 instead of 10000. They are just that lazy, and the fact this bug stayed untouched for now 5 gens is baffling.
@spamtong.spamton8416
@spamtong.spamton8416 Ай бұрын
Regieleki is simply built different.
@skyguysZ
@skyguysZ Ай бұрын
This reminds me of Ash vs. Valerie in the XY anime. His talonflame was under trickroom against one of valerie’s pokemon and his strategy was to stall it out by using flame charge to go faster… under trick room. Ash was cooking something back then and no one realized it…
@anghainguyen9951
@anghainguyen9951 5 күн бұрын
He break it using Hawlucha later on lol
@skyguysZ
@skyguysZ 5 күн бұрын
@@anghainguyen9951 yup, by using momentum from gyro ball to launch hawlucha onto one of the trick room walls and perform x-scissor to smash it
@BlastGamer77
@BlastGamer77 27 күн бұрын
Slowbro: “You fool! Not even you can match my speed in this room!” Regieleki: “Then I’ll surpass it!”
@MegaLEEDLE
@MegaLEEDLE Ай бұрын
now we just gotta wait for the terminal montage video on this glitch like the Mario v Fox video except it's mario v Regieleki
@philippefutureboy7348
@philippefutureboy7348 Ай бұрын
First video I watch from you: Instant sub! I love to see all of these obscure rules and understand how they can be used to create surprises in matches 😄
@bradensmith8682
@bradensmith8682 Ай бұрын
Slowbro: "Regileki is a wimp!" Regileki: "Yes, but I'm fast!"
@binarycat1237
@binarycat1237 Ай бұрын
the interesting thing is that speed is not stored in a regular integer size is that an unsigned 15 bit integer? if it was signed with 16 bits it would still overflow around 8k, but it would overflow to a negative number.
@volbla
@volbla Ай бұрын
log2(8192) is 13, so i guess it's 13 bits. A lot of data in pokemon games seem to be in these strange custom formats. Maybe that was necessary to fit these large worlds on the original handheld console games, but it's kinda weird that they're still doing it.
@shanesnover4048
@shanesnover4048 Ай бұрын
The data in Gen 4 was likely a 16-bit number with the remaining 3 bits encoding priority in some way for the engine to determine turn order.
@delta3244
@delta3244 Ай бұрын
​​@@shanesnover4048 Priority sets the highest bits as if they were flags, and then no more work is needed because everything's already ordered correctly. That makes sense, save that priority ranges from -7 to +5, which is 13 values, which is 5 more than can be stored in 3 bits. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if you're close to the mark. (edit - accidentally posted this reply before I finished writing it)
@shikutoai
@shikutoai 20 күн бұрын
I’d hazard a guess at there being a checksum and/or parity check?
@MagDrag123
@MagDrag123 Ай бұрын
Regieleki with Agility is like my uncle in the car with alcohol
@Bird-wz7nx
@Bird-wz7nx Ай бұрын
lol those were.... times, weren't they
@WishMakers
@WishMakers Ай бұрын
This is interesting because I believe when Freezai had just started out on KZbin he had taught me about the Speed Barrier break in the first place. Nice to see an effective remake
@dingus748
@dingus748 Ай бұрын
We're going back to Gen.1 stat overflow glitches oh my god.
@McLovin-by2mf
@McLovin-by2mf Ай бұрын
Surprising how this is still in the game if it has been found out long ago. Just rewrite the code of Trick Room so it subtracts the original speed from 8192 and you can dismiss that whole buisness with subtracting 8192 if the number is greater. That fix literally takes 5 minutes at best. And its not like any Pokemon could reach 8192 speed anyways. Max speed Regileki with +6 boost and scarf with tailwind up still has less than 8192 speed, so even in that case the fix would check out.
@chrisjohnsen8448
@chrisjohnsen8448 Ай бұрын
It probably hasn't been fixed because there is no need. Like it was said in the video, the circumstances it comes up are so hyper specific there is only one known instance of it happening on accident.
@kubomagico8853
@kubomagico8853 Ай бұрын
Regieleki at level 100 with max speed ivs and evs, speed boosting nature, +6 speed, choice scarf, tailwind and with it's ability swapped to swift swim under the rain has an speed equal to 13152
@kubomagico8853
@kubomagico8853 Ай бұрын
Did more research and Floatzel reaches 8664 and Barraskewda reaches 9792 They don't even need to switch abilities to break the game even with your idea
@lunascapes
@lunascapes Ай бұрын
@@kubomagico8853nice find!
@tezminator
@tezminator Ай бұрын
The thing is that Trick Room is normally not seen on playthroughs of the game, so it's pretty much a competitive move only. And even on competitive, it's mainly on VGC battles ruleset instead of Smogon's ruleset, which, thanks to the level 50 of all pokemon in VGC, makes it impossible to happen in regular VGC battle and even specific gimmick teams to try this also wont work because it takes too many turns to set up.
@machina188
@machina188 Ай бұрын
"Exactly 1809 or above" is so funny
@TheCrazyhusky
@TheCrazyhusky Ай бұрын
The trouble of being faster than light is that you live in darkness.
@danielhale1
@danielhale1 Ай бұрын
I love finding byte overflows, math glitches, and edge cases like this. My favorite though will always be MissingNo, which gave me free items and was just frick'n bizarre to fight. Mine evolved into a Kangaskhan that knew Sky Attack. Pokemon Stadium did NOT like this when I imported it.
@ktvx.94
@ktvx.94 Ай бұрын
Someone needs to bring this to a regional or something and pull it off on stream to get the attention of the devs along with somd chuckles.
@ashleythompson801
@ashleythompson801 Ай бұрын
Really difficult to do in any official event because VGC is played at level 50 instead of level 100, I'm sure that there's still some extremely weird theoretical set of circumstances that could get a level 50 pokemon past the speed barrier but it's a whole buttload harder than just clicking agility on eleki a few times.
@aquacustom.
@aquacustom. Ай бұрын
Love myself some modular arithmetic nonsense. Great vid
@Claudiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@Claudiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Ай бұрын
Babe wakeup freezai just uploaded
@dukemagus
@dukemagus Ай бұрын
Slowbro uses trick room. Regieleki: Trix are for kids.
@pokelordomega1701
@pokelordomega1701 Ай бұрын
and here I thought trick room was literally reading the move order in reverse. this is certainly an interesting overflow glitch
@nomatyx5789
@nomatyx5789 Ай бұрын
I’ve always wondered why they didn’t implement trick room by getting the fastest speed currently on the field, and determining new speed by subtracting fastest speed minus current speed. Simply recalculate every time a pokemon with higher speed switches in, or when a boosting move is used
@Qbe_Root
@Qbe_Root Ай бұрын
Or just subtract everyone's speed from 8192 instead of 10000
@Qbe_Root
@Qbe_Root Ай бұрын
@@MattressGuy Well at that point the Pokémon's normal speed overflows and becomes really low, and Trick Room would only stay consistent with that
@hunterfagallalone7660
@hunterfagallalone7660 Ай бұрын
If your playing Double Ubers, lead with magearna and a tailwind setter. Shift gear magearna turn 1 and tailwind as well. Turn 2 baton pass into choice scarf calyrex shadow and boom you got the glitch
@ottovonbismuth
@ottovonbismuth Ай бұрын
This is actually a really interesting glitch because it has been left in intentionally by Game Freak. The fix would be as simple as lowering the trick room starting speed from 10000 to 8000. So Game Freak has to have thought this was cool enough to not fix.
@ChipDrewPog
@ChipDrewPog Ай бұрын
And with this implementation, when multiple pokemon outspeed trick room, the one who goes first is the one who's speed is the closest to 8192, so after you pass the speed barrier you go right back around to using the trick room principle of "more speed = slower" again. Outspeeding trick room is like achieving a secret priority bracket of 0.5. Which also turns out to unlock the 1.5, 2.5 so on and so forth.
@KnucklesAndBig
@KnucklesAndBig Ай бұрын
I think the easiest fix would be to implement something like an "Initiative Order" like in DND. The Pokemon are placed in order based on their speed stat, which could be changed upon a stat change getting triggered, then when Trick Room gets used the order is just reversed until the Trick Room ends
@SuperEljafru
@SuperEljafru Ай бұрын
back when gen 9 doubles released ursaluna, it was common to lead Cresselia + Ursaluna on the lower end of the ladder. my response to this was to use agility basculegion and tailwind pelipper to set up the trick room glitch on TURN 1. and it managed to catch a lot of people off guard
@marowakcity3727
@marowakcity3727 Ай бұрын
I think the funniest thing about this glitch to me is that it would in all likelihood take literally 2 seconds to fix. Just change it from 10,000-x to 8,192-x
@Anewidedtity
@Anewidedtity Ай бұрын
Slowbro used trick room! Regieleki doesn't care! *Obliterates slowbro*
@MelonSeedOfficial
@MelonSeedOfficial Ай бұрын
The only thing that can hold Regieleki is his movepool variety
@Kalenz1234
@Kalenz1234 Ай бұрын
You could say it's speed was OVER 8000!
@elec06YT
@elec06YT Ай бұрын
This is so interesting, trick room makes regieleki (after the speed buffs) so slow that it gets ignored, leading to it being extremely fast it’s astonishing
@thejuggernautofspades9453
@thejuggernautofspades9453 7 күн бұрын
"That magnet wasnt put there to make me think you could move... but to make me think you couldnt"
@Kirbycrasher2746
@Kirbycrasher2746 Ай бұрын
In summary; regieleki harnesses the speedforce and breaks time/turn order
@blazingkite8983
@blazingkite8983 Күн бұрын
"Wouldnt it be easier to just check who has the higher speed and who has the slowest and force them into a fixed, unchangable new value of 5 000 and the other set to 1?" "nah lets just use the overflow to our advantage for mechanic purposes cuz that sounds hella funni"
@snomcultist189
@snomcultist189 25 күн бұрын
2:50 The only Pokémon capable of such a feat
@tysonvienneau1830
@tysonvienneau1830 Ай бұрын
What I've learned: Math is scarier than ever
@castform7618
@castform7618 Ай бұрын
Wow, I never knew that's how Trick Room work. That's a very interesting way to calculate it and considering the ludicrous amount of setup all but like 3 Pokemon need to do to break through, I wouldn't call it bad (not saying that you did, just to be clear).
@ShiningSilvally
@ShiningSilvally 11 күн бұрын
THAT IS SO STRANGE. Talk about factoids that fly so far under the radar, they're completely underground. Thanks for bringing this glitch to my attention!
@mspotato138
@mspotato138 Ай бұрын
Hm, so the fix they would have to implement is literally to replace the number 10000 in the trick room code with 8192, in order to prevent the overflow.
@PJOZeus
@PJOZeus Ай бұрын
Good bit of knowledge to have if you have a sweeper like regileki vs a trickroom team It’s nieche, but good to know it’s an option still
@brutalbjorn7524
@brutalbjorn7524 Ай бұрын
+6 Regieleki with Choice Scarf, Swift Swim/Sand Rush and Tailwind can also croos the Stat barrier :o
@Vexal50
@Vexal50 Ай бұрын
I'd hesitate to call this a glitch. An oversight, sure, but everythings working as intended, the in-game text just doesn't match with how the move works
@Duffy_SSBM
@Duffy_SSBM Ай бұрын
Wasn't this an old Freezai video from years ago? I swore the first video I found from him was about this exact phenomenon. Cool either way and the presentation has improve to the point where a remake is justified. I just thought he'd mention it if he did it before
@rebeccadavis3185
@rebeccadavis3185 Ай бұрын
MADE IN HEAVEN
@gothified
@gothified Ай бұрын
i swear you already made a video on this topic before? maybe i’m tripping but i remember you making a video on the interaction between agility regieleki and trick room.
@randall2665
@randall2665 Ай бұрын
I remember this, too
@amari5886
@amari5886 Ай бұрын
I like to imagine that Regieleki quickly runs out of Trick Room's range as the other Pokemon is setting it
@UltraRogue.
@UltraRogue. Ай бұрын
Ah yes The particle accelerator
@pikalber
@pikalber Ай бұрын
This is not the content I'm used to enjoy from you but it's definetly a very curious thing to store in my useless info about pokemon box! Thanks man, I do love your content :)
@danielgysi5729
@danielgysi5729 Ай бұрын
Woah I actually didn't know about this. That's so cool
@shadicald9309
@shadicald9309 Ай бұрын
Tbh, this should be a feature because it’s so impractical but fun
@Vmac1394
@Vmac1394 9 күн бұрын
The technical debt this series has is absolutely staggering.
@lostkin9921
@lostkin9921 28 күн бұрын
Regieleki is like that anoying kid you had at the playground that just said "it doesn't work on me"
@jesuisunstroopwafel
@jesuisunstroopwafel Ай бұрын
GOTTA GO FAST
@rawbinYT
@rawbinYT Ай бұрын
what happened to your old video from years ago detailing this exact same glitch, with regieleki and all?
@dark_fusion1288
@dark_fusion1288 Ай бұрын
The ultimate “did I stutter” moment.
@Celmondas
@Celmondas 27 күн бұрын
Well this implementation of trick room is pretty clever but it seems like they never tested (or calculated) the edge cases
@aldrichunfaithful3589
@aldrichunfaithful3589 Ай бұрын
i was going to write a comment suggesting that you could use this with regieleki as a trick room counter in vgc. it has electro ball so using agility isn't a waste of a slot, you outspeed opposing tailwind if they have it and get a 150bp 100% accurate electric move without drawbacks if they don't. tailwind and agility multiply together so in doubles as a backup against trick room you could use tornadus + regieleki to hit the barrier in one turn. now the problem is vgc is level 50, so you'd have to use agility 3 times instead of once, but i could see this maybe being used in smogon doubles. for the regieleki set i'd use 252+ Spa, 68 speed to hit just over a quarter of the speed barrier, and dump the rest in phys def to shield from priority. then use protect, agility, electro ball, tera blast ice and a life orb.
@bobbyretrac1776
@bobbyretrac1776 Ай бұрын
wow this came out 29 seconds ago. Love your content man!
@Pam234
@Pam234 Ай бұрын
Want a cookie?
@nazoxys1883
@nazoxys1883 Ай бұрын
if its been in the game for 5 generations now, it's not a glitch, its a feature.
@samuelperez6219
@samuelperez6219 Ай бұрын
Cool remake!
@donovanmahan2901
@donovanmahan2901 Ай бұрын
Slowbro twisted the dimensions Regieleki's speed twisted them back.
@yeetuszilla1663
@yeetuszilla1663 Ай бұрын
Honestly this should stay as a feature. It's like the Pokemon's so fast trick room just can't keep up
@alexandremenino2006
@alexandremenino2006 Ай бұрын
why would they program it like that?? why is it (10000 - speed) intead of (8192 - speed) or (0 - speed) and yes that would work with speed being both signed and unsigned int
@Wifi_Cable
@Wifi_Cable Ай бұрын
Glad to see the hilariously broken code practices of gen 1 aren't totally removed.
@zelda12346
@zelda12346 7 күн бұрын
The implementation itself isn't actually unsound or weird. Basically, they turn the speed into a modulus i.e. remainder. This is important because moduli act more like categories than numbers. All they did was multiply the modulus by -1. Doing this will absolutely reverse the turn order for up to any size divisor. You have to specify the divisor, but that's what the overflow is anyway, so no problem. I'd be curious to see why they went with a magic number instead of 8191. Since 8192 is = 0 in modular arithmetic, this _should_ fix the bug. Maybe it's just a hold over from lower memory size and 1-man was several larger than what they had.
@bigfudge2031
@bigfudge2031 Ай бұрын
Regieleki: "You are in this trick room, but we do not grant you the ability to move first" Slowbro: "How can you do this? This is outrageous! It's unfair! How can you be in the trick room and not move first?
@jaythephoenix
@jaythephoenix Ай бұрын
Regieleki: "Sigh. Guess we're doing this. MADE IN HEAVEN."
@kosakukawajiri5007
@kosakukawajiri5007 Ай бұрын
Honestly if you go through all that effort, you deserve to pull it off. Whoever runs Agility Regieleki just to outspeed like 2 other Pokemon including itself has balls of titanium. What he running anyway, Electro Ball?
@blackoutamvs6550
@blackoutamvs6550 Ай бұрын
Something like this would be amazing to see in the anime, Imagine trick room is triggered and excadrill is losing badly but thebn it uses sandstorm and breaks the trickroom speed barrier and out speeds the other pokemon
@mamabriel7701
@mamabriel7701 Ай бұрын
I remember doing this with a friend before Regieleki existed, so we used Deoxys-Speed
@Lialvas
@Lialvas Ай бұрын
honestly, this is the type of glitch you can call a feature and just leave in game. Its not like it has severe consequences, infact its pretty neat and cool.
@ScorchyScorch
@ScorchyScorch Ай бұрын
It's not its Speed, Regieleki is using the Chaos Emeralds to warp.
@tamertamertamer4874
@tamertamertamer4874 21 күн бұрын
Regieleki out speeding in trick room is hilarious
@kevinkarthik3329
@kevinkarthik3329 Ай бұрын
this video was so entertaining!
@bxnny5861
@bxnny5861 22 күн бұрын
So canonically, we can powerscale pokemon speed on whether or not they out speed trick room
@dinar4331
@dinar4331 Ай бұрын
@freezai Can you share the replay you featured in the vid?
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