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[@andyholland3369]

Great video Joe. We’ve had one for just over a year now. Use it as our family car but can have fun in it at weekends. It’s been great, very practical and very fast. When we first got it fuel economy was as you say but after about 1500 miles mpg got much better, around 30 mpg mixed driving and mid to high 30’s mpg on long motorway journeys.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thanks Andy, glad you're enjoying yours, genuinely brilliant all round packages. Without driving one, nobody would believe how good they are as actual drivers cars! Glad to hear about the economy too, that was a worry 🤣👌

[@danI43541]

This thing is so popular here in Germany! Great package, great deal. Formentor is already getting very good lease deal!

[@Pmjs]

I test drove the SEAT Ateca 2.0TDI FR Sport with 19"wheels I felt every imperfection on the road. I've sat in the Cupra I loved it.

[@jezavison663]

I’ve got a pre-facelift cupra ateca and have found that the the mpg definitely improves with mileage. Early days I was certainly getting late teens / early 20’s on the combined cycle but now it overs around 30mpg. On a long run I can get high 30’s which for this sort of car I think is pretty decent!

[@lawrencewhite4068]

Re fuel economy, had one of these for two years, around 25-26, having a bit of fun, 30-33 driven sensibly.

[@Riyazatron]

Its my daily driver I average 33mpg on my commute. Drops to 28 when I do do stupid starts off traffic lights. only seen it hit 26mpg once and they was a huge traffic jam not the right foot. I got high 30s around 38mpg on s family holiday in in September before lock down. Car was in cruise control for mostly.

[@Sa3Tv]

I've always been 50/50 with this one actually.. 2 litre engine high powered 😉 family ish car! You get the best of all words in terms of performance and practicality and even looks! Enjoyed this vlog actually haha! By the way the seats in there are AWESOME!!! Keep it up joe! Back it again!!

[@davidmitchell8490]

Nice video. Very fair comments for anyyone considering a purchase but what I would add would be that Road Tax in the UK rises very considerably once you delve into desirable options which ,in the case of a car like this one with a basic list price of £39k, will quickly breach the £40k list price thus activating an additional £310 per annum premium over the car's normal annual Road Tax during the following 5 years... That £1500 extra makes the optional sunroof or enhanced brakes or anything else opted for become even more expensive as I see it! Dave in Edinburgh.

[@t3chn0m0]

Joe, do the Cupra Formentor as well please. I just recently ordered mine.

[@CatcherMorningstar]

Asking for a review after buying the product lmao

[@TJ-eo2qf]

Congrats mate. Saving up to get one next year once my current car is due to be replaced!

[@Es1777s]

The 5cyl?

[@jonny5777]

But what if he says it’s shit? I’d be gutted (not that is is I’m sure)

[@gordonmccartney5648]

I recently had a Leon Cupra 290 (GPF model) and it was great, the EA888 although common is incredible. I have now moved onto an Ateca, sadly not the Cupra but an FR model with the 1.5tsi. Great car to drive and plenty of room, looks good also with the face-lift. I'm convinced my Cupra gave same MPG when driven normally as the 1.5tsi though

[@firstnamed1501]

I have a 2020 Cupra Leon ST, basically this car in estate form. Get high 30s on a motorway run sat at 75mph. Absolutely love it and it’s quick but understated. Great review, Joe 👍🏻

[@CM.243]

I've got the EA888 in Golf 7.5R Estate and sitting at 70mph on the m'way I get 40mpg+

[@firstnamed1501]

@@CM.243 yes, I have achieved that on a couple of occasions but not recently. I just had my first service yesterday at 10k miles so should be running as good as ever. What fuel do you use and do you notice a difference between fuel grades and whether it’s 0*C or 30*C outside? I’ve not used launch control yet, worried it’ll lunch the clutch but wow they are fast off the line in sport/Cupra mode

[@CM.243]

@@firstnamed1501 Always used 99RON, temp between 5-15ºc. On the m'way when pootling along at 70, often have it in ECO mode *but* with a PedalBox+ turned all the way up to its highest setting.

[@lebowski_dude]

That car looks comically small with you standing next to it 😂

[@Tonseren]

agree

[@teddyaldridge7871]

I thought that. Looked a cardboard cut out

[@breezeracing8015]

Looked at one of these when they came out, great car. But ended up getting a diesel skoda and an M140i instead!

[@JoeAchilles1]

Ahh sounds like a great two car garage!

[@davidsomething4867]

I have a Leon Cupra 290 2wd and through lockdown, less use and shorter journeys I have struggled to see more than 20MPG. With increased amounts of journeys at a longer distance I have seen around 37MPG on a journey to work lately.

[@csanvi]

What a nice sub 4.5mt proposition for a family man, than this, I would say. Thank you Joe! The manual HVAC controls are a deal clincher for a person like me, and I am so glad to say the Ateca still has'nt got the capacitive "death" touch treatment from VW still! If I get to EU, which I am trying a lot, this would definitely be a strong contender in the compact SUV space. Vielen Dank.

[@garysimpson3900]

Must be one of the very few recent reviews where Joe hasn't told us he is 6'2"

[@JoeAchilles1]

🤣 When I was editing I suddenly realised I hadn't mentioned it for once! Ps 6ft 4" 😉🤣

[@supernotnatural]

Cupra's height is for some reason is short already like 1.60 which equals 5"6. It could have been 6-7cm higher too

[@Tonseren]

In denmark a seat atec costs (with some options) 50'000£ ...

[@sanmarino_cs1698]

I think it’s a great car joe! Crazy time’s though when we have to headline a SEAT as being sub 40k though. Prices have just gone daft nowadays.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Yeah very true mate, prices will keep creeping up this year too unfortunately 😕

[@689CJ]

Don't get me started on car prices. Things have gone crazy in the last 6 years or so.

[@ScottPC]

This is half the reason I brought a 2 year old car this time. So much value for money

[@sanmarino_cs1698]

Scott C I’m done with new mate. I’ve had new M4’s etc and gone back to good old buying. I utterly adore my mint e92 m3, feels and sounds so special on every drive compared to the new stuff.

[@davidstuart4915]

@@JoeAchilles1 so, no problem there, with such a secure employment market.... have u seen B&B prices in the UK??!!!!! - £3,000 / mth for some dodgy bedroom...WTF??!! - UK economy is truly a scary place - fancy a nice cheap Stingray?...... Try speccing a 2 to 3 cylinder 1.5 29mpg Ford Puma.....Lunacy everywhere u turn - Each time I check prices on cheap old daily drivers to see how much they have come down....You guessed...doubled in price!!!!!

[@matthewjones5910]

Was very close to buying one as a family wagon, But coughed up a little bit more and got the XC60 Polestar..

[@matthewjones5910]

You need to Do a review on an xc60 polestar Joe! it gets such mixed reviews! I own a m2 Comp as my fun toy (off the back of your reviews an ownership)

[@matthewjones5910]

@Mr A did have a look at the x3 (was a tad small... x5 was too big) the xc60 is a kind of in the middle size wise. Also haven’t seen another polestar xc60 in person which is kinda nice (I love an underdog)

[@CarObsession]

I liked the look of the old one, but I agree with you, the new one looks better. It looks sleeker, less boxy, like you said. You're also right with the pano roof, a car with an interior THAT dark, it's screaming from some extra light in there.

[@karlblower4019]

If you’re looking at a family car on the older gen of mqb are you paying £40k for this or buying a virtually brand new Leon Cupra ST R? Unless you really want an SUV I think saving £10k and getting a very comparable car in terms of practicality and performance is the one I’d got for.

[@bingerslaroo2249]

These Cupra atecas are around 27k on used market, so a good 2nd hand buy. But as you said the Cupra Leon ST R would be my choice.

[@johnm6587]

Cheers Joe! Really enjoyed that. Been curious about these and really feel I know more about them now. Keep up the work mate your smashing it.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thanks John glad you enjoyed it mate 👊

[@markhancox5475]

These high performance 2.0 litre engines use more fuel than the 2.5 and 3.0 engines they have replaced. Does downsizing really work?

[@cephasmakuzva]

It's so nice to see a standard car with no options just to see how much you actually get for your money standard and its nice keyless entry auto fold mirrors front and rear park sensors sat nav privacy glass virtual cockpit duel zone climate control cruise control and itll park itself and heated steering wheel DAB radio, ambient lighting, apple carplay/android auto, wireless phone charger, 8 speaker sound system

[@davidsomething4867]

I had a skoda vRS then got a Seat Leon Cupra. Both had Voice control as standard which I have never had an issue with compared to paying £170 pound on an Audi to get the same voice control at the time. I was looking at a Polo GTi Plus before I got the Leon but the Polo plus was £24k and a 24week wait so I went for the Leon.

[@cephasmakuzva]

@@davidsomething4867 you made the right choice absolutely.

[@steveo8533]

I’ve warmed to the facelift it looks a bit Audi and I think I’d pick it over the similarly priced Formentor. Great review as always and nice to see a base spec, thanks.

[@jondavies1593]

Just bought one myself on the strength of this review

[@craigj2483]

Biggest question have they improved on eliminating the road noise in the cab seat have always been notoriously loud in the cab.

[@johngoodall7097]

Very nice car by all accounts but when we all want the best economy out of our motoring 17 mpg at the worst is big Rolls Royce sort of mpg not good but maybe it was just that car Joe, what was the mpg on the Cupra 2yrs ago?better or much the same?

[@WhiteHartMart]

Think the previous one ended up about £250pm on a lease. Whether lease is your thing or not, that’s a lot of car for that price.

[@alfredovaldiviabarba948]

Good video Joe, Cupra Ateca or BMW X2M35i?

[@davidcupra4913]

Great video joe. Big cupra fan here of course have the Leon 300 st. What phone holder are u using?

[@GARRYEASTON]

VW group just like humans. Different on the outsides all the same underneath.

[@SM-ft2jv]

You just solved racism

[@alexluke84]

@@SM-ft2jv I somehow like racism 🤗

[@daweigo6851]

😅😅😅

[@dsldude1152]

Top trim VZ3 can be had for a few pounds over 39k in actual cash price paid, 33k will get you the base trim as featured in this video.

[@leemason666]

Nice video Joe. Have you thought of reviewing the VW T-ROC R?

[@MontyMonty-vn3hp]

Thanks Jo. Great review as always . I’m 6,3” tall so interesting to see how you get on inside a car .

[@stevecade857]

Performance SUVs ultimately are really to much of a compromise to be a decent driving experience. Great for cruising and overtakes but with the high CofG they will always be left wanting when it comes to the twisty bits. My wife loved her RSQ3 (previous gen) but I think she'll love her JCW Clubman more. I'll miss that gorgeous 5 pot motor but I won't miss the lack of composure entering corners.

[@kingjordan9271]

You need to work on increasing the render distance I couldn't see past the biome you were in when you were talking about the interior at 5:30

[@sv-rh4dz]

Was looking at either this new or a nearly new M340i touring and went for the bmw. The cupra felt rather like a budget car especially inside

[@latlak]

Is that the typical haldex awd, so only connecting the rear axle to the drivetrain when it slips and only sends a maximum of 50% to the rear?

[@OllieC100]

17MPG??! That’s woeful. Especially for a car of this type. That’s about what I got out of my old Mitsubishi Evolution!

[@GRfourfun]

I got more out of my built STI with 554bhp lol

[@bat33.12]

To be fair its got more bhp than the Evo 6 and the Mk7 Golf R with the same motor can easily get into mid 30 range, at least my manual version did and the dsg cars were slightly better. Probably down to it being new and getting launched doesnt help

[@49tkscott]

Those fuel economy figures are absolutely terrible Joe. How can they target figures of economy like that in this day and age.

[@daweigo6851]

It's a performance car

[@leebelcher1597]

I just wanted to say thank you for delivering such great content. I’ve just placed an order for a grey “stealth” with a pan roof (on the back of your advice) VZ1 for June. I’m yet to see one on the road, or test drive it but I totally trusted your review. So excited

[@JoeAchilles1]

Thanks for the great feedback Lee! Glad to hear you took my word, really interesting package and blindingly fast when you want it to be 👌

[@leebelcher1597]

@@JoeAchilles1 you’re very welcome. I need to replace my Mini Countryman Cooper S “daddy wagon” for a slightly bigger, faster chariot. I liked the way to described how comfortable it was for when the family is in the car and with the switch of the button you release the 300 horses when I’m on my own. Perfect car for me would be a RRS SVR, but I can’t afford one...the Cupra Ateca seems to be the perfect alternative for less than half the price.

[@reset1101]

Loved the video Joe, great job! Hope you can eventually get the Cupra Formentor and do a video about it as well.

[@Cupra-290]

Interesting that they still have the physical AC controls but my parents Tarraco Xcellence Lux is touch AC controls and they're god awful.

[@andreww501]

at 39 grand if you put a sunroof on if there goes your yearly car tax £500 , no thank you ... i have skoda superb sportline plus 272 which is same car underneath with its extras in it was £39500 :-) and i have heated seats front and BACK and sunroof .... i keep looking at the seat but keep going back to vw t rock . i always look round and by a demo ...

[@richardbeck818]

Looks a very capable car. I just think at that price I would much prefer to go and buy a low mileage 3 year old M3, C63, or Giuglia Quadrafoglio

[@jasonevans1459]

I've got a FR and to be honest it's been fautless and does everything I need and it's pretty brisk too. My finance is up in 6 months and I'm tempted to look at one of these but not sure it'll be that much of a difference.

[@MrNorth0102]

There is a massive difference

[@altern8tive]

17mpg ? jeez what are you doing lol. In the warmer months with the pre-facelift i regularly get 34-38 (mixed environment route ~ 45 mins) in sport mode and gearbox set to comfort and through winter mid to high 20s

[@TheChristeu]

LOVE CUPRA!

How far back in time do you have to go for this car to be a supercar.

[@therealfoodcritic3273]

Wait for the cupra formentor when it has the 2.5audi rs engine in it I saw an article about it the other day!

[@JoeAchilles1]

Yeah that will be interesting, but it won't be £39k

[@therealfoodcritic3273]

@@JoeAchilles1 No im guessing it will be around the 45k upwards.

[@karlblower4019]

If it gets as far as a production model I’ll be amazed. Just can’t see Audi giving away their mqb flagship engine..... would be awesome if it does happen though

[@Durace11Bunny]

I almost bought one of these as they are good cars, but settled for a G31 530D which isn't stock now, running 360bhp and 780nm.

[@danI43541]

I just checked the configurator... man who the heck put together the options: so you get a heated steering wheel as standard, but no heated seats (wtf). To get heated seats, you have to go for the next trim (as you mentioned) but it then comes with ugly blue (!) seats.. like WTF - who wants this. Top trim for 45k also comes with those horrific blue leather seats. The base Alcantara are perfectly fine, as is the base trim. Except for the lack of heated seats.... oh Cupra... Just get a Formentor with the same engine and with heated seats for 39k. Same thing basically

[@Jack-my4mx]

Just a thought - could the logic be that if you don’t have leather seats you don’t need heaters? Still loco though!

[@danI43541]

@@Jack-my4mx could be but I honestly don’t want to have a car without heated seats.. but neither do I want a car with blue seats :D

[@daweigo6851]

Don't buy one and problem solved 😅😅

[@philjamesdrummer1870]

Better option to the BMW X6M then?

[@ricardodimurro127]

the bonnet and passenger wing not lining up was annoying me

[@MrSargentMK]

Could economy increase as its run in? Considering it’s so new

[@JoeAchilles1]

Yeah very good point, in fact an owner of one said it gets much better after a few thousand miles 👌

[@richclio172]

Had mine 2 months averaging 30mpg. You can get up to 35-37 but you have to drive slow slow slow. In cupra lucky to get over 25mpg.

[@stevecade857]

As the engine breaks in and fuel economy improves you get used to the cars capabilities and the consumption goes up.

[@davidsomething4867]

@@stevecade857 Yeah, I agree. I didn't really use Cupra mode at all for first 10k. Now I seem to spend most time in it and in manual mode, lol. Still not attempted launch control even at 21k. At the moment with the pandemic I drive it so little that every time I get back in to drive it I enjoy it and don't worry so much about the MPG.

[@thebears28]

That panel fit above the headlight. 😱

[@michaeljohnson-li5nn]

Yes, I noticed that as well.

[@MrCwalker]

I like it to be fair looks smart for an SUV

[@AlexanderGeorgiev-Marck]

Cheers from Bulgaria. Subscribed recently. I am impressed by the presentations. All the best I am curious about an Alfa what would be your opinion.

[@manuelrusu7052]

He reviewed Giulia Q and Stelvio Q.

[@marklawrence4857]

Another informative video Joe, I think I would still opt for the Seat Leon Cupra R ST ABT (mouthful) over this Cupra Ateca, what would you choose Joe?

[@ewanbrown2070]

I've just ordered one, roll on December. But I'm sure I'm going to miss my 540i

[@antonoat]

Good review as always Joe, hideous fuel economy, less than half what you'd get from a BMW Xe twin turbo diesel, which is quick enough for most situations.

[@asseletion5475]

You dont buy a car like this for fuel economy 😅

[@antonoat]

@@asseletion5475 Well done for stating the very obvious! However, the fuel economy is very poor even considering the vehicle type and it's performance.

[@bat33.12]

@@antonoat it will head into 30-38mpg range once run in and not launched every 2 minutes with a tight motor. The EA888 in the Golf R is the same when new, well not 17mpg but then i didn't subject a brand new motor to full throttle launches either

[@EverythingCarsandMoreECAM]

Is it me or what that bonnet not aligned.

[@JoeAchilles1]

You're 💯 right, the wing was slightly out if shape, well spotted 👌

[@EverythingCarsandMoreECAM]

@@JoeAchilles1 thanks. helps being a car enthusiast

[@Laughitupfuzzball439]

Joe - see if you can get your hands on the new Tiguan R, for me best looking SUV on the market

[@GreenFrostFilms]

Very interesting. Take a look at a Formentor next please!

[@IAMCRAIG1986]

Hey Joe, can you review the 2022 Tiguan R please mate.

[@tomeastman6634]

Recently picked up a previous gen Leon cupra and absolutely bloody love it. Same engine and have had 38 mpg on a longer motorway run.

[@Dav-er1xs]

what is the color of car?

[@neiltuff4826]

It was all looking OK until you revealed the MPG figures. Man that'll put a lot of people off. Shame.

[@jonmorris1999]

I think the cupra formentor is miles better looking in that grey/blue matt finish with the bronze touches

[@grey9941]

Over 40k for a Seat, this is a budget brand car, who in the right mind would buy that.

[@voivod6871]

Its under 40k he said that near the start.

[@grey9941]

@@voivod6871 it should be no where near that cost. Its a tin shell with seats.

[@simonweston33]

Or a Cupra\Golf R estate? Easy choice if it were my money

[@ThisIsMTH]

If the pan roof tips it over £40k, add another £1500 to the cost of it through the VED surcharge. Not worth it.

[@stevecade857]

Yep. Pan roof becomes a £3500 option.

[@antisavrdoljak8120]

It would be very nice if you could make a review of a Mazda MX-5.

[@mrgt3201]

It's just a Seat Ateca with some tacky bronze trim and a powerful engine. £39k is a stretch when you think what you can buy for around that price.

[@JoeAchilles1]

It's more than that, it handles on a totally different level.

[@mrgt3201]

@@JoeAchilles1 I'm sure it does. However in the real world with traffic congestion and speed cameras is that the most important thing in a car? It's a very niche car and I'm sure those that buy it will love it.

[@Ava481]

So is this a x3 rival? Size wise?

[@LiveLifeLasting]

x1

[@moiqbal9789]

Another great review joe 🙌🏽

[@johnmontgomery7232]

Really like it joe but that MPG is absolutely ridiculous.

[@ThomeTeque]

How tall are you...2,5 m?

[@tomassiaudvytis7717]

front right wing poking out just abowe the headlight

[@sandweiler4640]

-2 C in the UK must feel like -80 C in Canada according to Joe’s reactions 😂😂😂

[@voivod6871]

Joe is always going on about heated seats like its really cold here in the UK. I have a m135i with leather seats and nearly always forget to turn the heated seats on (incuding this morning when it was -5) and my body temp warms them up in less than a minute so not having them in the UK isn't an issue. But summer tyres just don't perform at all in temps of +5 and below so that is an issue even in the UK.

[@Wee-Rex]

I have a 20-plate Cupra Ateca, so the pre facelift model. Completed over 7,000 miles since June 2020. Overall very chuffed. Some of the internal finishes are a little “low rent” compared to a VW or an Audi (which I have also owned) but the engine is terrific, goes like a stabbed rat, gear changes are smooth as silk, very grippy with the 4-wheel drive. I rarely put it in Sport or Cupra Sport mode and my long term average MPG is 29.9 MPG, decent enough for a 300BHP car. So I disagree Joe, you must be wringing the neck of that car ALL the time to drop to under 20mpg! There is loads of room, boot is a decent size (there is NO spare wheel, which I am not a fan of, but it is what it is) and you can easily seat 3 up in the rear. I also had to use the car at the beginning of January in fairly heavy snow and the snow ❄️ mode is amazing, really does what it’s supposed to do. And finally, are you a total wimp - there is NO need for heated seats unless you have all leather. The Alcantara heats up in no time at all, and I have been driving my car in sub-zero temperatures pretty much every day since 1st January 2021! Given this car shares the same platform as the MUCH more expensive Porsche Macan, I reckon it’s a great car at a great price.

[@JoeAchilles1]

You're very protective 😂

[@Wee-Rex]

@@JoeAchilles1 Nah, just old 😂

[@austincaley5007]

That looks like my cycling roads,pishill and Christmas common?

[@garyfrench6536]

It is. On a recent video I noted Joe was using the Benson to Watlington road so guess he's from our neck of the woods.

[@666DW]

£40k and no bonnet strut support? VAG are truly penny pinching!

[@roninesce8362]

@666DW are you planning to sleep under the bonnet that is bother you so much?! 😜

[@666DW]

@@roninesce8362 it was an observation and opinion. Am I not entitled to one?

[@nottslad7261]

Let's see a formentor next joe

[@andymccarthy9058]

Cupra Formentor next mate ?

[@BaruKz]

I just did not understood when you said it's looks like the golf inside, the new one is miles ahead of that interior and even the old one is nothing similar not in style neither in quality. The other thing is going full throttle most of the time and doing launches does not contribute for an average comsuption, that 17 mpg is not a real figure if you obey the law on b roads. Last you didn't even bother to show the boot and the space behind.

[@Illawarra13]

Joe, joe, you are now reviewing cars that us lesser mortals have to drive.... What's going on?!? We expect you to be flying much higher than this :-)

[@roedevilla]

do the Formentor :)

[@bibby65]

Formentor is a much better looking car to my eyes.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Agree, was meant to have one to try this week, but previous journo had a little knock in it, hopefully get one soon 👌

[@bibby65]

@@JoeAchilles1 will be an interesting comparison

[@relentlesspursuit6894]

Agree, the Cupra Ateca looks to much like a "normal" Ateca. Formentor better looking as it's a stand alone vehicle. The Ateca is very good value though compared to offerings from BMW/Audi

[@bibby65]

Yes,I'd take the Formentor over any SUV at 40k.Similar price to Ateca too.Formentor probably a bit smaller inside than the Ateca but lovely to look at,offers something a bit different to other SUV's at this level and a 0-60 time in 4.5 secs,which is pretty impressive.

[@robbiebobson5746]

@@bibby65 I went to have a look at the formentor parked outside my local seat dealer and it’s more like a raised hatch than a suv. It’s a case of trying to convince the misses (who wants the raised ride height) it’s the better option. Interior was lovely in formentor.

[@ScottPC]

I wish they updates the dashboard more. Looks so dated for a 2021.

[@JoeAchilles1]

Yeah it is getting a little dated, but all works well and graphics look up to date

[@deniedbwayi2477]

they stole loads of design detail from Audi .... man its a mini rs3 a year or 2 ago

[@headwinner]

Was it just me or someone else who didn't like him putting those shoes so dirty in this car so clean??? haahhaha

[@andrewlee5237]

Glad you did this video, it helped me decide never to buy one 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@audiman879]

gives me audi q3 vibes

[@-LK34-]

Should be less than 30k😂

[@jamesmasters4255]

Yeah the chav look, looks really classsy if that's what you are into 😒🙄

[@kong2512]

Brand new car and mist in front headlights? Gosh that's just awful

[@stevewebster7745]

Bloody hell Joe you look like you are standing next to a clown car you are so tall 🤣

[@Riyazatron]

Pre-facelift for me was better. I like the sleeper look

[@tomgilman9567]

17 mpg ..... jesus