Fast, Unlimited, and Cheap File Sharing: Resilio Sync

[@scotttaylor2904]

Really like the cool studio look you have set up in the basement. A really solid look.

[@pdb1298]

Been using sync for years. Love it.

[@aith7rios]

Best sync program ever

[@ivarmh]

Thanks a lot! This is great. I just saw that Synology has an add-on for Resilio so I can run it on my Synology NAS :D

[@ruanth]

the answer to my unasked question I was looking for

[@kadave]

You’re a lifesaver. Thanks for this video!

[@seecraig]

The biggest problem for me is that the receiver has to install the software to use the link sent to them. Most people I deal with are reluctant to do that. They simply want a link to download the file and nothing else. As a Mac user I use MailDrop. Files up to 5GB in an emailed link. Saved up to one month (it is getting uploaded to a cloud server) up to 1TB of storage a month. All that is completely free. Sometimes I need to send individual files larger than 5GB which is the biggest downside for me.

[@djp_video]

5GB won't get very far with video. Most of my projects are at least a few hundred gigabytes.

[@scruggs.jonathan]

Great video. Thanks for the suggestion! Liking the new studio too! Audio mix is a bit soft compared to the average YT video.

[@djp_video]

Still tweaking audio in the new studio.

[@scruggs.jonathan]

@@djp_video are you switching/mixing everything live or are you post-processing everything/some things?

[@djp_video]

Right now I'm doing all editing in post. Nothing is live switched at the moment; I don't have a 4K switcher for the basement yet. I may use vMix with a DeckLink 8K Pro card here before long as a temporary solution until I do get a 4K switcher, but I'm waiting until I have the final spit-and-polish and cleaning done on the YT studio before I setup a real computer in there, even temporarily. I've got an ATEM Mini Extreme setup for right now to switch live streams, but since I produce most of my videos in 4K, that switcher isn't useful for that.

[@voodoovinny7125]

It seems that your example was over LAN and not over the internet as Resilio Sync seems to perform similar to Tailscale + NFS + rsync or Tailscale + Syncthing. It is actually slower than using Tailscale + NFS + FreeFileSync.

[@djp_video]

A lot of factors go into what kind of performance you'll get. But that doesn't matter so much, as I'll get to in a moment. While a portion of the demo I did was over the LAN, going over the Internet doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be that much slower. I've had quite a few times where files will sync over the public Internet at the full 110+ MB/sec available with my Internet connection. It, of course, depends on the available bandwidth between endpoints with every solution out there. Resilio will establish a direct connection whenever it possibly can (basically assuming the ISP and router will permit it), and when it is able, it will go at full wire speed -- literally as fast as is possible. Both solutions are efficient at identifying changed portions of files and only synchronizing what is different. There isn't really a huge advantage of one over the other there. The biggest difference between them is the complexity at setting them up and getting them going. It's hard to justify asking someone who isn't technology-focused to setup something like Tailscale and rsync or FreeFileSync. But asking someone to install and get Resilio Sync up and going isn't really much of a challenge, as it is just a single application and you can literally share just a single URL. They can click the URL you share, and that will install the software and walk them through getting that shared folder up and going. To ask someone who isn't really technology savvy to install a VPN, then install rsync or FreeFileSync is usually asking too much. I would never ask my clients to do something like that, which is the problem that this video is focused on helping my viewers to solve.

[@JuanCarlosValdesV]

Doug, We need to say when you share a folder, in the other side the computer need it the same space you are sharing in the original file. In my case I share an After effect project and its 1GB, the laptop in another side it cant open the folder because it don't have enough space. Regards.

[@djp_video]

That's going to be true of all of the various ways of sharing files. You have to have local copies of the files to open them.

[@stevenfaehrmann1088]

Hi Doug... this sounds great. I wish to "Copy Paste" large Folders. Once they are Synced, can you break the sync and therefore they are independent of the originals? Any chance you can select a certain file type only? Thank you ... Steven

[@djp_video]

You could move them out of your sync folder. Or create a sync folder for just those files and delete the sync relationship with that folder after they're synchronized.

[@guidosaur7506]

I suppose this would be more convenient than sending my friend a magnet link to a private torrent i made. Sucks they need to have the software as well though.

[@tomkmb4120]

Is this still free for personal use? Also, can it detect changes to the files such as amendments to csvs or excel files and that would cause it to sync?

[@djp_video]

Yes and yes.

[@tomkmb4120]

@@djp_video Thanks a lot! Working like a charm!

[@synlfo7828]

bumped into this. Glad i did. Subbed!

[@test101me]

Big difference is this is not cloud storage hence your shared device have to ON always. That's let down for normal user.

[@djp_video]

Only while files are being synchronized. Once the sync has finished, the source computer can go offline. The same thing is true when it's cloud-based as well. You've got to leave the computer on while the upload finishes, and it usually takes a lot longer.

[@arthurkallinen]

​@@djp_video Yeah but unless the receiving end is working same time and instantly after you provide them the access, you can't turn off untill they can confirm the files are synced.

[@anmac6910]

can this software preserve the 3 timestamps of files and folders as well ?

[@djp_video]

Modification date is preserved (on most clients), but creation and last read date are not.

[@anmac6910]

@djp_video ok thank you

[@mdmofazzalhossain77]

What if I user delete a file in other end having the both read and write permission? Will the file also be deleted from the source?

[@djp_video]

If they have write permission it will be deleted in both locations

[@armhmdzd4034]

what if i want to send it to someone but his laptop is turned off?

[@djp_video]

They'll get the files afterthe laptop is turned on and online.

[@lordgarak]

Not storing the data on the cloud is a major negative to me. Might as well just self host a webserver or sftp server. The advantages of going to the cloud is that it provides another backup of the video files. So if your shop burns down, you still have the client's video files. As for security, just encrypt your files before you upload. Provide the software and keys to decrypt out of band. I still haven't found a cheap cloud provider that is still fast and reliable. The last one I tried offered huge amounts of storage for cheap, but at the upload rates they provided it would take years to use that storages. I worked it out to something like 6 months to backup our current hard drive array. We ended up using that service just to backup our critical files and compressed video finals. Still took weeks to upload. Edit: Also does Resilio work for clients with locked down work computers like government and education?

[@djp_video]

Synchronized storage should never be considered backup. Modifying or deleting the file in any synchronized location means that all copies are modified/deleted -- kind of defeating the point of a "backup." Encrypting your own files means you have to keep unencrypted and encrypted copies, and take time to go through that step. Very inconvenient and time consuming.

[@aaronm9353]

By any chance was the provider who offered huge amounts of storage but appalling upload speeds called iDrive?

[@djp_video]

Most all of them have terrible upload speeds when they offer large amounts of capacity for cheap

[@djp_video]

I'd still have a separate backup solution.

[@ricardopontoncruz5068]

Thanks Doug

[@kemakal]

Prices are so hard to find for this now. 😩

[@djp_video]

It's right on the front page of the site. www.resilio.com/individuals/#plans

[@arthurkallinen]

Sadly not quite compareble solution to cloud based solutions, because you can't turn off your pc unless someone isn't downloading anything. Also, downloading a software is not an option for sharing files for a client - at least usually. Like you said very suitable for co-work projects, and so on. This is in the name, it's a sync software, not file sharing service. Also, if you yourself have a bad connection, it will take long tine for the RX to get the files, even could be dropping out. Meanwhile going thru cloud, it is more reliable connection and your upload speed won't matter when the RX is downloading

[@djp_video]

This isn't a cloud service... it's a sync service. Different intent. You do have to leave your computer on while the files are uploading. The same is true of going to a cloud service, though. If you only turn on your computer while you're actively working, this may not be the solution for you. I haven't had any issues with clients figuring out how to install the software, particularly if I send them a link from Resilio. Those links will install the software and setup the synchronization. But when I only need to send one or two files to a client I'll use OneDrive so they don't have to jump through those hoops. (I already have an Office 365 account so I'm getting that storage for "free" -- this makes the most sense for me, plus Microsoft doesn't count the size of the files I share against the available storage of the people I'm sharing with... that's huge!) This is primarily for when I'm collaborating with people where we're sending files in both directions, back and forth. In my experience, Resilio tends to be faster and more reliable than uploading to any of the cloud services. With a gigabit symmetrical connection, I nearly always have a faster connection than the people I'm sharing with so I'm never the bottleneck. And that is generally the case -- people doing video production usually have a faster connection than the clients they're working with. I've tried all of the big cloud services for collaborating with others, and this, by far, has been the best solution I've tried. The others have pretty much all been a nightmare to work with, and cost a LOT more to boot. I've never seen Resilio get stuck where it just stops syncing, which I have seen with *all* of the could storage services, and it always takes forever to get it fixed and going again.

[@Tenly2009]

You’ve got a strange idea about what “double charging” is. When you transfer a large file to someone else, they can download it directly to their home computer for free - but if they want to keep it in their own Dropbox account, of course they need to have an account with enough free space to store it. 🙄 Where is the double charge? Two people own cloud space, two people pay for cloud space. By the logic you seem to be using, a restaurant is double-charging when you and your friend both order a chocolate milkshake? 🙄. You both get a chocolate milkshake, you both get a large file. Where is the difference?

[@djp_video]

Other services don't charge both people for that shared storage. If I share 500 GB of files with a friend on OneDrive, for example, that 500 GB doesn't count against their storage. Their amount of available free space doesn't change by accepting an invitation from me, even if they're only on the free account. Only the person initiating the sharing has that data count toward their quota. Dropbox, on the other hand, when a friend shares a file with me, I have to not just have space in my own allocation, but now I can't use that space for something else. And that's despite the fact that DropBox is only storing a single copy of those files. When you work in video, and work with a lot of clients, this becomes an enormous problem.

[@Sixta16]

No, no, no and no. Use Syncthing. Powerful and opensource.

[@djp_video]

Some people like to have a company behind a product so they know it is supported. Open source solutions often don't provide that.