FASTEST Ways to IMPROVE at Super Smash Bros. ft. Captain Faceroll

[@Faulheit]

how to get good: don't get hit

[@SkyNinja759]

L, R, A, Start, play Fox.

[@hayabusa5930]

Hax's ultimate Falcon movement option.

[@crimson_fang86]

What if your main is Lucario...

[@masterwoo4359]

instructions unclear: SDd 4times at the start of the match

[@DavidSchleigh]

Now in 2022, people get hit intentionally to crouch cancel and hard punish it

[@MicahGreaney]

"Don't get hit."-Isai

[@ABlackGuyTalksAbout]

Finding a main is super important. I wholeheartedly suggest writing down everything you like about the characters you're playing, writing a list of chars from Fox to Falcon (lower if you want, no disrespect) next to it and crossing off every one who doesn't fit that criteria. It really helped me go from alternating Peach and Falcon to settling on Marth. It hurts to cut a character you have an emotional attachment to, but if you're serious about improvement, you've got to focus.

[@meleemojo1256]

shout out to Infinite Numbers who went from unranked to top 50 in 1 year.

[@Freefork]

Can we have this guy come more often? Captain Faceroll is noice!

[@frog_boy_]

agreed

[@Poppomatic64]

Went to hs with him, turns out he is nice

[@SSB_Seal]

I love the character's tags at the clips around 3:18.

[@SSB_Seal]

Also, all these grab jokes faceroll is making are hilarious lmao

[@DrKFC69]

SSB_Seal I really like your name, i like it

[@MicahSmart]

SSB_Seal my feed is almost entirely siivagunner or melee, so I end up seeing you in the comments wherever I go haha

[@SSB_Seal]

+Ogopogo My feed is also all SiivaGunner and Melee and I also always see me wherever I go! Isn't life strange?

[@GR33DMUSIC]

Thanks for giving me an excuse on why I play 800 hours of Smash

[@matthewleclair3189]

Damn, choosing one character to main is gonna be a real pain. I'm having trouble deciding that for both Melee and Sm4sh, but it feels weirdly tougher in Melee to choose.

[@brimstone920]

I would recommend that if possible choose a different character for Sm4sh and Melee. I know for some people, me included, it feels very jarring to go from Melee with one character and then trying them in Sm4sh and it being completely different. It can mess with your consistency with both iterations of your character (this specific reason is actually why Mew2King is a Cloud main on Sm4sh instead of Sheik, the differences messed with him too much).

[@matthewleclair3189]

Brimstone Yeah, that was something that I recently had to consider. Ever since I was a kid, I always played Marth so despite the fact that I could still play him somewhat competently in either game, the constant transition always screwed me up. I'm thinking I'll stick with Marth in Melee but I also have my eyes on Fox and C. Falcon as I've been having a lot of fun with them and playing/watching them is always a blast. Sm4sh on the other hand, I'm unsure of. I like a great deal of characters but none stand out that badly to me asides from ZSS and Sheik.

[@matthewleclair3189]

Luis Carlos Holguín Pérez I feel as though I've been through that process with Melee (also looking to play Marth!) I'll try that out in Sm4sh though, thanks for the advice.

[@BreakfastKids]

i love marth and im getting better with him but i went to a local and 40% of the people there played marth so i picked up falcon because he's fun af and i didnt see any falcons there

[@SrBananaGonzales]

Matthew Leclair Go Fox, TORHYAAAH!

[@HexMasterFlex]

This is actually an awesome video with great fundamental tips man; much appreciated!

[@ChengHorn9]

This guy knows what's up. This is basically the melee version of how to get good at anything. I go to school minutes from Xanadu and a friend who plays SF tourneys there, but this engineering degree prevents me from having time to get serious. After I graduate in May maybe I'll be have the time to get good. Great vid as always!

[@RexPerfection]

did you ever get serious?

[@ChengHorn9]

@@RexPerfection no I didn't. Life dragged me in a different direction and doing fun stuff like competitive melee wasn't anything I could think about even remotely. It could have been fun I guess, but now melee is dead (sort of), ultimate is not something I care to get into, and I'm in a completely different place in life.

[@Hacktendo64]

How to be LEGIT good on Melee Main Kirby

[@GrandGurple]

And only play with items on on pokefloats

[@polybent9748]

N64Hacking1.2 I actually main Kirby

[@Michael_Dominic]

"100s of hours of experience" try thousands. like 10,000 or more.

[@suntzu6122]

Any game worth playing is worth playing 10,000 hours worth

[@Michael_Dominic]

@@suntzu6122 7 year old comment, crazy

[@souvlivvy]

Just got Melee yesterday, This helped

[@UltmateBROS25]

Cubone Sans when u get a game that came out in 2001 in 2017😂😂

[@nostalgiafactor733]

IamMe true ROFL

[@mikeetoo96]

I bought melee in 2016 best game of 2016

[@notsunnydaysahead]

IamMe funny thing is that game was maid in 13 months mostly by one person

[@CobalionRider]

Your voice is amazing Faceroll 0.0

[@somedudethatdoesthings8057]

If you still want to play multiple characters I recommend doing this: Play one character and only that character for a week Switch to another one and play for a week Repeat. If there is one character in the group that you want to make your "*main* main" never use any character in the training room other than that character. I've got some progress so far with this tactic.

[@benjaminparker1134]

How I like to think of losing sets: I tell myself that I lost a set not because I was bad, but because my opponent was really good; they were better than me. In this mindset I both credit the other player for being more skilled than I am and complimenting the work they've put into the game, and I'm also not putting myself down for losing. With this mindset I'm not discrediting my own skill in the game while also giving credit to my opponent for a well played game.

[@YURTZYN42]

Yeah lol even if I get wrecked I'll be like "damn you creamed me lol" to the other guy or like "really good (character they're playing) you got there, bro"

[@ira374]

why captain faceroll look like those Mr.Saturns that Peach pulls lmao

[@RitzKrakerz]

I've heard a lot about the whole one character strat, thanks for pointing that out

[@blob4477]

This is the birth of False Swipe Gaming

[@adamspeiser6449]

I need to pause over and over after a falcon punch to be a pro, or at least in friendlies.

[@LordFartamor]

Thanks for the advice! I'm going to start maining Ice Climbers and wobble in tournament! Wish me luck!

[@miki-pf4um]

I sadly can't #2 because my country doesn't have a competitive scene :(

[@thatdankguy5140]

Have you tried looking at smashboards Tournament Listings? Thats where I found my competitive scene, might help you out as well.

[@Iriscience]

Nintendo Fan Your Normal Start the scene yourself! If you are looking for tournaments, chances are that other people in your area are looking for them too and may be down to help you organize events.

[@Alxinho959]

Where are you from?

[@mariosavage1]

tell me where your from and I will send you some links to a group or something that has been in at least the past. I've almost never found anywhere that no one plays at all

[@p3g4s3]

Hello ! Anything in Portugal ? (near Lisbon if possible)

[@pearceodegard582]

Faceroll's voice Kreygasm

[@TrustyBag]

Damn Griffin, your voice over work is amazing. You have to do more VO stuff

[@kirjian]

(btw Griffin is Captain Faceroll, i can use his first name because we are tight like that. yeah i know top players but its whatever to me lol)

[@faviojasso]

I really appreciate the advice and your rise to the top 50 is really inspiring to me im going to be joining the competive scene soon.

[@richardzapp8285]

You should consider writing a Marth versus floaty guide from the perspective of the floaty. Specifically, understanding how to DI Marths aerials and throws, and understanding what marths counterplay to those DIs are. Puff might be the easiest to discuss this in depth if you want to pick one specific character to discuss it with.

[@111leadfoot]

I really enjoyed hearing Faceroll talk over this.

[@MOM-pp5lp]

captain Faceroll actually had alot of good points here. I'd like to hear from him again sometime on this channel.

[@ПутлерКапут-е3п]

Ive got one question to Advanced smash players. I can totally understand why Brawl and smash 4 Werent Able to replace melee, But i actually Wonder why there Wasnt a shift to pm. Actually it has melees gameplay with added chars and Stages?

[@wolfmanjack8402]

King Of Rap coz it's piracy unfortunately(fact) and its mostly underground now due to Nintendo not allowing it to be streamed on the main platform level :P

[@enzantakeshita8838]

PM is great, but Nintendo forced the project to be shut down and does not allow PM streams on big sites such as Twitch. Clash still has a small PM scene

[@Yaruzu]

Just to add on to what to do after you lose a set, and I realize this isn't for everybody, but what I do personally if I lose is I ask the person who won what they think I could do better, ask them for any tips in the matchup, etc. and I write them down in a notebook to keep them for later.

[@mushman1395]

These videos are so helpful in helping me understand the competitive side of melee. I'm going to main pikachu in melee because I already main him in smash 4.

[@Tmathh]

i disagree on the one character thing. i feel it depends on the person. its kinda like saying dont learn more then 1 language at a time because it splits your experience when we know that its actually very helpful for learning both.

[@kumiko4100]

Have you done a Tournament Guide? Things such as how to find tournaments? How to do pick/ban? Basically all the stuff outside the game

[@yurtle1851]

this is sick. i need to begin the grind.

[@shewbtoob]

this is a very well made and well edited video. underrated as fuck.

[@ORANevo]

How should I grind punish game with Fox on 20XX? Should I divide between Fastfallers/Floaties?

[@SSBMTutorials]

Think about every DI, every move, and every percent, and find the most damage / best possible option you can do at all of those, vs every character, on every part of the stage. Practice 1 at a time

[@ORANevo]

Thanks for the answer. Back to the lab then! :)

[@mimszanadunstedt441]

What are the best characters to get good at with trainer modes solo? Like the ones whose gameplan is more fulfilled from practicing those modes than others?

[@Nigglai]

You can now call this video: How to destroy m2k

[@FinnKid1]

fuck it, I'm maining random

[@nintenbros1563]

SPACE ANIMALS.

[@theoneandonlyranch4552]

ive been wanting to start playing melee, ive played alot of ssb4, and this realy helped, earned my sub

[@suntzu6122]

After every kill and death thinking "what could have i done better" helped me improve games a lot

[@demoidiot2979]

My main was Snake :C. Now need to improve with C.Falcon un SSB4

[@morganlak4337]

I find it so difficult to practice punish game alone. I main fox and it seems like even with the 20XX hack pack, people never DI like the CPU's do so I never get any valuable practice from them. On top of that I've always struggled with tech chasing and I have no idea how to practice it outside of reacting and grabbing, how do I practice getting tech reads on people? Does anyone have any tips on how to practice fox punish game?

[@SSBMTutorials]

Ok here's what I've been doing for the past 2 weeks. Keep in mind I am not proficient with this yet but 2 weeks has shown me lots of improvement: - make sure it's version 3.02, put a cpu fox in the player 2 slot (lvl 1), go to battlefield, with 99 stocks and infinite time - upthrow the fox. if he lands on a platform, react to the tech roll with upair. once in awhile just guess tech in place and cover it on no reaction. if he doesn't, chaingrab him until he does. If he DI's the upair far off the platform and you don't land on top of it, upsmash. if he doesn't, regrab on top of the side platform. Continue cg until he DI's to top platform - if you grab him near a ledge, or near a platform ledge and he DI's off the stage, use fsmash (you can't be really close to the ledge or fsmash will miss) - if he is above 45%-ish, use fullhop falling upair on tech in place, and if he tech rolls, dash and JC grab him. You should be able to hit the L-cancel whether it hits the fox or not and it's a 1-frame window for getting the grab in time if they tech roll - after upairs you can continue doing single-hit falling upair on them or just bair off the stage. when they up B, armada shine them every time then do it on yoshis, and dreamland, and against falco, and then falcon, etc etc. for tech chasing on the ground, if they tech in place use shine, otherwise run JC grab vs others practice getting upthrow upair at every percent. Freeze their percents at 0% or at kill percent (depending on character). this is just MY way of doing it, there are plenty of other ways and you can develop your own as well. I also may have different options for certain things, for example Ice will sometimes tech chase with bair at low percents if he doesn't think he can get the upair, or maybe I move differently in order to tech chase the upair, maybe I should wavedash down on the platform above 40 rather than doing falling upair, theres plenty of other things to practice. this is honestly just one tiny part of the game, there are tons of other things to practice, im sure you can think of some yourself unless you believe you are perfect at everything

[@morganlak4337]

Thanks this helps a lot. I think my problem with tech chasing has been that I didn't have a good plan for punish, I wasn't sure how to make one, and I dont believe in my ability to react enough to rely on it and actually hit reaction tech chases. I can probably react more than I give myself credit for and I'll just have to grind out specifically reacting on the platform with uair. I also need to do a better job of recognizing situations where they'll hit the ground and getting ready to react with grab or usmash. Right now I'm lazy and i dont even try to react. Do you have any tips on picking up on people's tech roll habits?

[@chadshowdown9382]

Which 20xx version should we use to grind out our punish game? The newest or 3.02?

[@liftingforlife1]

3.02 for the majority of practice. If you want specific DI (like behind di on upthrows) or specific tech options then use 4.05.

[@chadshowdown9382]

Why 3.02 for the majority? Is there a difference in how the ai di's in 3.02 vs 4.05?

[@liftingforlife1]

3.02 has shine wake up and jump out of hitstun. When 4.05 just has color overlays, it can be sometimes hard to tell if he ever came out of hitstun for a frame or two. With shine, there is no questioning.

[@cova_2715]

With Great Tech Comes Great Responsibility well if u want a good cpu to fight against then I would say the newest one. 3.02 cpu are pretty much vanilla melee cpu with di and shine get ups imo

[@waddlez6643]

very great video, this ganon main loves all of you in smash tutorials. UwU

[@MilkyCao]

edit: so this is seen before the fold, in general i agree with everything he's saying. I'm just nitpicking. m2k played multiple at first, though his marth was really good he was a fox main for quite a bit of time. he didn't stick (as evident by his name) but he got better relatively slowly and is a special case for alot of things. PPMD started off as a doc, then switched to falco marth for a while, and got good as a double main, but once again, this is a different story since his case was unique and he learned the game very differently from a lot of people. While I don't disagree with your point solo maining helps you get good easier, and faster for most people, to cite the gods when yes, a majority of them did start off solo main, the fact remains 2 of them didn't get god solo maining.. and that's a decent percentage for it to not be as useful a thing to point at in my opinion. I want to reiterate- I agree with captain faceroll, just not his evidence as to why.

[@SSBMTutorials]

I don't believe that is true. M2K played only Fox before becoming Top 8 at the old MLG circuits and PPMD played only Falco. You can look back at the footage, they rarely played Marth/Doc in tournament while reaching these points.

[@SSBMTutorials]

I don't believe this is true actually, M2K became Top 8 in the MLG circuit without playing Marth in tournament. You can even look at old footage, I don't remember anything where PPMD used doc in tournament while rising to the top (also he started with Mario, not Doc). In fact he says he dropped Marth/Mario before he became one of the Top6

[@MilkyCao]

SSBM Tutorials yeah you'r right sorry i said doc because o i was looking into something else at the time. (incident where a player switch to doc to counter someone)

[@SkillsofAWESOMENESS]

I did not expect that voice out of that face

[@Spoody]

Holy shit I just realised the shoutout at the end (False Swipe Gaming) is the guy that makes the competitive pokemon history videos.

[@Starbucks20000]

I been play ssbm since 2003. And I been playing brawl when it first came out and I got good at both of them for 2 years

[@mn-pegasus]

Pro Tip for Sheik mains: You can bair Falco all the way to gimp town if you bthrow him off the stage.

[@Zefrath]

How to never lose: Play fox

[@Jay-hv6ss]

Hey Kira. If you don't mind, could you explain to me what to specifically look for when playing a match or point me to some more of your videos. I sometimes try to look for too many things in a match. Thank you.

[@SSBMTutorials]

I look for patterns / mistakes. Should be a video coming up on this soon tho

[@Jay-hv6ss]

SSBM Tutorials Thank you very much!

[@jrkanaan]

how to be good at melee: play fox

[@MisterHumanMan]

Can you make an are you a doc player vid pls

[@HylianMaster-ls2ps]

another thing is to play low tiers, hear me out it can help you learn to rely more on the basics rather then characters "cheese moves" as i call them(marth Fair, fox's shine, falco dair, shiek f tilt) and help you learn to work around limitaions and force you to play smart, alot of friends of mine main top tiers and rely heavily on those kinds of cheese moves and still get beat by my luigi and ness

[@PKZeRo0]

History of Reshiram. If you know, you know

[@beck6085]

WHAT IS CONVERTING AT THE LEDGE

[@claykuperus]

I like this since it doesn’t just apply to melee, bus smash as a whole

[@user-gi3ro9rm9k]

I'm thinking about maining mario because after a few hours of playing him, he feels like a good fit for me. The only problem is that I cannot find any guides on him whatsoever. How should I learn to play him?

[@SSBMTutorials]

watch top marios. mango's mario (aka scorpion master), A Rookie, Koopatroopa, etc

[@MrCrunchyMunchy]

I'm not sure why but I just can't wavedash into turn around up tilt with fox as Leffen or Mango do in some of their punish games. I can do it from a SHFFLed aerial and maybe that's because there's a small buffer, but straight out of a wavedash I can't seem to get that first frame turn around up tilt - I have to do the turn around and up tilt individually which takes too much time. Is this something I just need to grind out? I'd really appreciate any help because I've missed out on so many combo opportunities because I do that god forsaken turn around up angled forward tilt haha

[@SSBMTutorials]

i couldnt for a long time either. just keep at it! sometimes practicing something else and coming back to it later helps

[@MrCrunchyMunchy]

SSBM Tutorials thanks a lot! Really appreciate it. Also unrelated, but could fox's down-tilt be used as a spacing tool to counter ground approaches like Marths? Or does it have too much lag/ftilt could be better (I understand this is completely situational but just as a general guideline)

[@SSBMTutorials]

i dont know what "spacing tool" means exactly but dtilt is extremely good in a lot of matchups

[@ClovisAstra]

2:10 If you don't feel like tournaments are for you then do melee netplay

[@DrKFC69]

Well I don't care if I should only learn 1 or 2 characters, I'm fine with learning 4 characters at once, Marth, Mewtwo, Falco and Ganondorf

[@AndrewJamesBinuya]

ColdfacekillerJr KonekoToujouFan00 bad tho

[@anewbus8283]

Wait, friendlies are suppose to be relaxed?

[@jediahlaplanche1377]

ive been looking for tournaments, but my area just doesnt have a seen sadly

[@Tmathh]

vert true what he said about the punish game

[@capefeather]

I feel like focusing on grinding tech skill works better for more technically demanding Smashes i.e. 64/Melee/PM.

[@noodletribunal9793]

why is that FD so small? i quit melee after going to as many tournaments that i could and always coming up short. never won one. my best placement was a complete collapse in grand finals for a second place in an arcadian in a smaller region.(arcadian=top 10 players not allowed). i'm coming back to the game, after 5 years, but my new focus is to have fun. have fun and connect with the community. i remembered the first game i ever watched(ken vs pc chris ny06) and how i felt. i didn't worry about anything, i just wanted to play. i just wanted to play. that's my new mindset. that's my new goal.

[@noodletribunal9793]

or am i trippin about FD? 🤔 is it the camera?

[@etiennemadore5899]

Can you do a video about : How to practice pikachu ???

[@kk-hy3sf]

"merely 3 years"

[@Omeax3GS]

What happens if you only have melee and project M on Wii with ZERO friends to play??

[@abcdefzhij]

1:28 Are you kidding? I would be really surprised if anyone in the MIOM top 10 didn't have THOUSANDS of hours.

[@samueljackson3512]

Andrew Ricklefs they certainly do.

[@wizzmaw3093]

I don't know which character to choose because I don't have a preference. I main Falco, Jiggs and Marth, so how can I choose one of them?

[@donjamesbaldassarre8193]

how do you get the thing that tells you your L cancel percentage on dolphin and the thing that makes you flash when you L cancel properly?

[@sonicfan2015]

gecko codes

[@jleif7736]

Hey man, I am somebody who picks up video games and can easily become good at them. I am soon to be embarking on a journey to become really good and competitive at smash. I am going to put heaps of time into the game and try and compete at tournaments, I'm in my 20's so I am a late bloomer, but I have played all iterations of Smash except smash 4 and ultimate. I never really considered playing competitively. Is there any characters you would recommend to pick up that is just an all around good character for all situations?

[@SSBMTutorials]

Fox, Marth are best

[@iceflake6179]

Ive been playing ssbm for about 2 years, but i only started getting competive the past month. I was never really good at any of the top teir characters so i set my attentien to low teirs.and then i found aMSa a japoness player who plays yoshi. I was instently amazing of how he was moving with such a wonky charactor. i would love to know how he does it. how he ledge grab and throw an egg all at the same time.

[@aydenka8452]

I have 20XXTE 4.05. do I need to get the 20XX hack pack or is this OK? Also Is there a melee scene in GA? (mainly around Gwinnett county) I've looked and can't find any tournaments besides Tipped off which is annual.

[@SSBMTutorials]

there should be a georgia melee facebook group, check there. I have had many problems with TE versions, I think 20XX 3.02 is the best for practice by far

[@proxibomb4913]

So how does one deal with match-ups that are grossly one sided like Pika vs. ICs? Do I have no choice but to choose another character, or do I stick with Pikachu and just grind the match out until I can figure a way to beat it.

[@SSBMTutorials]

So, at the absolute worst you know you can be at least as good as Axe is at the matchup (but obviously everyone can improve and find out new ways to deal with things, so you can do even better than that eventually). Axe probably wouldn't lose to any ICs not ranked Top 100, so you can at least do that. Once you get to that level, you can decide for yourself. Practicing bad matchups is actually very helpful for overall skill

[@proxibomb4913]

Thanks for the reply! I've been debating solo maining and I'm just gonna stick with Pikachu until I could possibly one day make it to top 100.

[@hethaasje771]

mhh im thinking who to main; Bowser or marth. i know marth is way better but i feel like at the moment im becomming an good with bowser.

[@mrsandman500]

i feel the hardest way to improve is playing competitively against people of your skill level, it always feels like everyone is miles better than you. getting bodied can only get you so much better at learning how to get a better chance in neutral. that how i see it right now but i know melee is a tough game to learn.

[@SlickWoody]

PRO TIP: Main Fox that's about it.

[@kacpercicharski3431]

Honestly I play ssf2 and I'm thinking about applying that to my game. Thx

[@naruto38932]

my main problem is i need to learn to short jump when i need to etc and learn when to di etc

[@oldamar9994]

what is the best way to get good with low tier characters, like roy and kirby? (im a roy main btw)

[@bradlyc5142]

Practice smash vs practice medicine....hmmm...such a touch decision

[@joshualupyan519]

geez, are most people that watch this freakin' hardcore professionals?

[@SSBMTutorials]

most of them are pretty new I think!

[@Error-ve8df]

Every time I go to a tournament, I keep getting to finals in pools but losing in the end. This has happened for the last four tournaments (I go once a month), and it's honestly starting to make me tilted. Is there some kind of special training or mentality that can help me with this problem?

[@SSBMTutorials]

Nope, just good old improvement. Finding why you're losing and thinking about what you should do about them and then practicing it.

[@mump]

Where do I go to find tourneys around me?

[@godspeed6096]

does the main only one character apply to sm4sh? where it's much much easier to learn a character. what if you main a character that has some really bad match-ups like ness?

[@SSBMTutorials]

Take a look at whatever pro player mains your character. Would they lose to whatever Ness's you're playing against? You can become AT LEAST as good as that person is, and even better than they currently are eventually. Once you get to that point, you'll have your own opinion and won't need mine

[@dbd978]

what is that site with all the tournaments listed?

[@Chriszeo]

dbd978 smashboard

[@dbd978]

***** thanks

[@BumbleBaum]

great vid

[@zTing2117]

i swear to god this game is going to give me arthritis or carpal tunnel

[@hitechnic7805]

My problem is that whenever I start trying to stick to just one character, I start doing worse with that one and start doing better with the rest of the cast. My main game is Project M, and as someone who loves learning to play new characters and finding their unique tricks and abilities, I've found myself able to play a majority of the cast at a tournament level. I've even won tournament sets with bowser, the worst character in the game! But my love for diversity is another reason why it's hard for me to stick to a single character: because I get bored of doing the same thing over and over when there are so many other cool things out there. But back to my main point, when I focus on one character to main, usually Lucario, I end up underperforming with it in tournaments, and when I bust out secondaries they end up doing serious damage. This isn't always 100% true, but it is a reoccurring pattern

[@EpicOdysseus]

Bowser being the worst character in the game in Project M has a lot less bearing than it would in Melee, since "the worst character in the game" is still tournament viable in Project M. I feel like Project M's tier list should be taken with a grain of salt, since most people will look at tier lists and use it to make snap judgements of characters, which has truth to fairly unbalanced games like Melee or Brawl, but can be misleading when looking at a game like Project M, where people will look at the lowest placing character and assume he's garbage when in reality, Bowser is probably around the equivalent of Melee Falcon on Melee's list. I know that wasn't the point of your comment, but it's always something that bugs me, lol. It's like when Eventhubs or whoever made a 3.0 tier list way back when which placed Toon Link at last, and suddenly everyone who thought they were good at the game was declaring how terrible Toon Link was despite no one saying it prior and Toon Links still doing absolutely fine at tournaments.

[@SSBMTutorials]

well the point of sticking to one character is to improve and grow with them faster than others. so if you continue doing the same thing over and over then it somewhat defeats the purpose

[@averyerickson1]

EpicOdysseus Bowser is in no way the worst char in pm

[@saltkaiser]

i already have melee, but my region has next to no tournaments, not to mention people who play melee. my tv also has a lot of input lag because it's not a crt, so is it alright for me to practice in this state, or should i wait until more suitable circumstances

[@Iriscience]

Salty do NOT practice seriously for any long period of time on anything but a crt, it will heavily inhibit your improvement once you switch to a crt

[@saltkaiser]

Iriscience okay thanks for the warning

[@mischacarlberg6631]

Crts are dirt cheap, so I would recommend getting one.

[@saltkaiser]

Sonicmist i'm currently trying to get one asap

[@cova_2715]

Salty u know whats funny i play melee without a crt on nintendont on my wii u and there is absolutely no input lag at all lol

[@Popmycherryyo]

So you mention 20xx is a good way to practice your punish game. Any specific setting/setup one should use?

[@SSBMTutorials]

3.02 is the best version

[@Popmycherryyo]

How would you set it up though was what I meant? What options/sliders to put to what etc?

[@SSBMTutorials]

see our 20XX hack pack guide ft CDK

[@crazyface2154]

What website is easy to use, and the best to use for looking at tournaments?

[@TheStickCollector]

Those are characters I'm going to use competitively

[@TheStickCollector]

3:08

[@soap5995]

how does ur game look so smooth? im on dolphin and it looks pixelated and blurry

[@deaththekid922]

about number 4 in a Game like Smash thats surprisingly easy for me to accept i lost to someone , unlike in League of Legends where i can try my hardest and lose because of a teammate but in Smash i only rage when losing to a CPU because of unfair level 9 CPU mechanics ( thats why i stopped practing with them , now i practise with Level 1 or 5 , still get riddicolous grabs from them sometimes but not as bad

[@oddcop945]

lol he said hundreds of hours.. more like thousands..