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Fatal Climb | TAROM Flight 371

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Allec Joshua Ibay

Allec Joshua Ibay

Күн бұрын

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@andrewloja5839
@andrewloja5839 5 жыл бұрын
A rather disquieting crash, that one was. To have an urgent medical issue combined with poor weather and worse, a faulty autothrottle system is among the worst cases ANY flight crew could possibly have. Nice work on the animations again, Allec, and I send my condolences to both the victims of TAROM Flight 371 and those affected by the Taal Volcano eruption. Remember, Allec, even in these hard times, we stand with you and your fellow countrymen! Keep up the good work, and stay safe!
@Oliver-cg5ud
@Oliver-cg5ud 5 жыл бұрын
Hey a Filipino
@hshs5756
@hshs5756 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like a more logical response to losing his captain would have been to call a flight attendant to deal with that emergency rather than forget he had just become 100% responsible for flying the aircraft alone. He could have landed the plane single-handed and been a hero.
@EpicJoshua314
@EpicJoshua314 5 жыл бұрын
Hs Hs Shouldn’t one of the recommendations as a result of this crash be, better training for recovering from unusual attitudes when flying in IMC conditions as this was a TOTALLY PREVENTABLE accident. Even with the incapacitation of a pilot and auto throttle malfunction this accident was virtually 100% preventable. Simply if the co-pilot had rolled the plane back to straight and level when he saw the steep bank, the plane likely would have made it back to Bucharest. But no, the co-pilot didn’t believe what he was seeing on his instruments was correct and did nothing, Allowing the plane to roll 170 degrees to the left and reach 60 degrees nose down. That’s Pilot Error right there. The French BEA audited the Romanian investigators report and stated that the primary cause was the inadequate response of the co-pilot. I talked to a former 747 Captain about this crash and he told me that the co-pilot should have gotten the cabin crew in their to attend with the Captain’s body. Thank you
@hshs5756
@hshs5756 5 жыл бұрын
@@EpicJoshua314 Your inner ear is very capable of playing tricks on you in instrument flying conditions. You MUST be committed to believing your instruments unless you have clear & present reasons to think they're malfunctioning. I feel sorry for this first officer having three emergencies to deal with simultaneously, but falling back on the most basic advice for all pilots to prioritize their attention -- aviate, navigate, communicate -- would have saved the day.
@rogerhargreaves2272
@rogerhargreaves2272 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Loja Great reply. 👍
@richstewart1
@richstewart1 5 жыл бұрын
I once heard a guy say, "When it's your day, it's your day. I just don't want to be in a plane when it's the pilots day."
@watchgoose
@watchgoose 5 жыл бұрын
@@minttt_ not funny at all, plus they still had one good pilot if the aircraft had been in good shape.
@MendTheWorld
@MendTheWorld 5 жыл бұрын
“When it’s your day, it’s your day.”. I’m sure I must have heard some even _more_ completely useless example of circular reasoning, but I just can’t think of what it would be, so this will have to stand as the most useless.
@richstewart1
@richstewart1 5 жыл бұрын
@@MendTheWorld Thank you! I am number one!
@samuelbolden2362
@samuelbolden2362 5 жыл бұрын
Richard Stewart me neither
@davidolie8392
@davidolie8392 5 жыл бұрын
Similar joke: "I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa, not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car."
@MorganBrown
@MorganBrown 5 жыл бұрын
This is almost unbelievable. I’m amazed I hadn’t heard of this accident until now. Nice work
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 5 жыл бұрын
@Sir Tristan exactly right...I am from Bulgaria....
@mikebronicki6978
@mikebronicki6978 5 жыл бұрын
Also, Airbus is really good at protecting their name.
@kirilmihaylov1934
@kirilmihaylov1934 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikebronicki6978 this was really bad crash...
@nadiecomojo
@nadiecomojo 5 жыл бұрын
Sir Tristan because we dont have this kind of aircrashes beeng somehow good in our job.
@nadiecomojo
@nadiecomojo 5 жыл бұрын
Sir Tristan and do you know where România is?you answered like seems to be in the moon,oh my god😂😂😂😂
@janicesullivan8942
@janicesullivan8942 5 жыл бұрын
They put a warning card in the cockpit, instead of fixing the issue.
@EphemeralProductions
@EphemeralProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't it mind blowingly unbelievable??! Lol
@smartysmarty1714
@smartysmarty1714 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but in their defense they DID use duct tape to tape the warning card in place...
@EphemeralProductions
@EphemeralProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Smarty Smarty 😂
@robs5688
@robs5688 5 жыл бұрын
It's outrageous.
@NotoriousChicken
@NotoriousChicken 5 жыл бұрын
They couldn't simulate the problem on the ground so they couldn't find out what was wrong.
@emmicah7720
@emmicah7720 5 жыл бұрын
Man, this was tragic all the way around. I feel for the families of this tragedy. Allec, great job on the vid!
@Capecodham
@Capecodham 5 жыл бұрын
What did you do with the time you saved not typing eo?
@gigachad1330
@gigachad1330 5 жыл бұрын
burt2481 shut
@Capecodham
@Capecodham 5 жыл бұрын
@@gigachad1330 shut,? What did you do with the time you saved not typing up?
@gigachad1330
@gigachad1330 5 жыл бұрын
@@Capecodham do you get the joke. I spent the time laughing at your pathetic attempts at not understanding a joke.
@Capecodham
@Capecodham 5 жыл бұрын
@@gigachad1330 you insults and you hiding behind a keyboard show the only balls you have are eye balls
@gwats19577
@gwats19577 5 жыл бұрын
The Airbus A310-300 was a beautiful plane when operating properly... I fueled its predecessor, the A300 in Denver for several years... flew on one from Taipei to Bangkok on China Airlines about 20 years ago...
@GeoffInfield
@GeoffInfield 5 жыл бұрын
If ever there was an example of needing to walk a mile in someone's shoes... at first glance it seems preventable but just imagining being that first-officer, in cloud, the captain and possibly good friend literally dying next to you, and one throttle very quietly rolling back while the other remains at climb power, it hurts to even think about it :( Thanks Allec!
@TheBoldienanthony
@TheBoldienanthony 5 жыл бұрын
Geoff Infield i’m to high for this comment
@PremIndi
@PremIndi 5 жыл бұрын
No excuse. His responsibility is to the souls on board. An ability to fly the plane in the face of extreme adversity is the prerequisite for having the job. He had two working engines and a mechanically functioning plane. Sully had no engines and managed to preserve life. This guy stopped flying the plane and 60 people died as a result, as confirmed by the accident report. I know what you're saying and I feel for him, but nowhere near as much as I feel for the people who had no control over their destiny and lost their lives to his negligence.
@rhuttrho88
@rhuttrho88 5 жыл бұрын
@@PremIndi exactly, that's what he trained for. Some people are frighteningly soft. This is not a case of walk in someone's shoes. They train over and over again.
@HeavyBrocks
@HeavyBrocks 5 жыл бұрын
Indi Newall What you’re missing is the fact that there was a fault with the plane that was not fixed. Sully knew he had no engines, this guy did not know that his plane would randomly throttle back at the worst possible moment. Then Airbus waits another 6 months to fix it and the fix doesn’t even become mandatory for another year? Pretty obvious where the blame lies. Money over safety. Not much different than the 737 Max situation. You blame those pilots, too?
@PremIndi
@PremIndi 5 жыл бұрын
HeavyBrocks hi mate, I didn't miss that, as with all air crashes it's usually a case of a perfect storm of several things that all needed to happen to bring the bird down. The fault should have been fixed, but the evidence that the fault was occurring was plain to see for anyone properly focused on flying the plane. The plane was aerodynamically sound so the situation was totally, and easily recoverable. I don't agree with your equating of this with the MAX incidents. In those instances the aeroplane actually resisted the pilots attempts to right the craft. In this case the attempt simply wasn't made- he dropped the ball. All compassion for him, but this is what occurred.
@Dana_Danarosana
@Dana_Danarosana 5 жыл бұрын
I hadn't heard of this crash. How sad! Thanks for doing this one. As always, nice job!
@stinchjack
@stinchjack 4 жыл бұрын
"Dear Pilot and Co-Pilot, please find this plane in a less than optimal state. For the safety of you and your passengers, please keep one hand on the throttles to make sure plane actually takes off, rather than crashing in a big ball of flames. We feel rest assured that the profits of TAROM are safe in your hands. Best of luck, management"
@davidhoffman1278
@davidhoffman1278 2 жыл бұрын
And Airbus probably had some influence on the condition requiring better and sooner attentions.
@Persian-Immortal
@Persian-Immortal 4 жыл бұрын
My sister was an air hostess, she saved the Captain's life when he suffered an heart attack on flight. The first officer took control and landed safely. The crew very happy to land safely and the captain was alive. Of course, the airline did not care that my sister and the first officer were heroes.
@jeanmacdonald7988
@jeanmacdonald7988 5 жыл бұрын
There have been some great saves recounted here recently. I was really holding out hope until the very end. Great video, Allec, of an incident I hadn’t been familiar with.
@333anders6
@333anders6 5 жыл бұрын
allec, again excellent!! and the music at the end was awesome!
@AD-yi3qz
@AD-yi3qz 5 жыл бұрын
I was unaware of this crash until today. Nice job on the animation, I always enjoy your videos.
@flamencoMensch
@flamencoMensch 4 жыл бұрын
Seems this is the never-ending legacy of commercial aviation safety: a known and potentially disastrous technical problem isn't thoroughly dealt with until dozens or hundreds die in a completely avoidable accident. :-/ Thanks for another well-crafted and informative simulation, Allec.
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 5 жыл бұрын
"What a tragedy! No one could have prevented this!!!" Um, no. Probably no one could have prevented the captain from having a heart attack, but if the airline had FIXED THE PLANE rather than leaving instructions on how to fly it in a broken state, the others would have lived.
@jgsh8062
@jgsh8062 5 жыл бұрын
The airline wasn't being unreasonable for expecting pilots to fly without the autothrottle. The problems arose when the pilot became ill
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 5 жыл бұрын
@@jgsh8062 Yup, that's when the problem arose. AND BECAUSE THEY DID NOT FIX THE PLANE, THAT PROBLEM LED TO THE DEATH OF EVERYONE ON BOARD. Funny how problems compound in an environment of negligence, ain't it?
@jgsh8062
@jgsh8062 5 жыл бұрын
@@christosvoskresye It's not negligence. It is how ANY airline would have handled the situation. It is not negligence for a plane to not have a computer that can fly the plane for the pilots
@flyguy5941
@flyguy5941 5 жыл бұрын
Actually the problem is with air bus because they did not design a fix until after the crash. Remember they issued a Mandatory service bulletin after the crash.
@peggyl2849
@peggyl2849 5 жыл бұрын
@@jgsh8062 They actually did have autopilot, but it disengaged because the slats were still not retracted. If the plane is not configured correctly, the autopilot will disengage.
@kirkfunk7573
@kirkfunk7573 5 жыл бұрын
Probably the saddest story on this channel. Opposite of ubiquitous "pilot error." Will be thinking about those poor souls for awhile.
@EphemeralProductions
@EphemeralProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Kirk Funk ❤️❤️❤️ me too
@yoopernow
@yoopernow 5 жыл бұрын
There WAS a functioning pilot up front. How can you say he made no error? That's WHY he was there in the first place...
@EphemeralProductions
@EphemeralProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Leon Normand he may have made an error but the problem was, he barely had time to realize it much less have time to correct the problem
@yoopernow
@yoopernow 5 жыл бұрын
His job, SOLE job, was controlling the aircraft. Help for the pilot MUST wait until the aircraft is at a safe altitude in a safe configuration. He's hand-flying in clouds and let his attention lapse. ERROR!
@PremIndi
@PremIndi 5 жыл бұрын
Correct. Pilot error. A great pilot will let his copilot dismantle himself with a razor if stopping it means doing less than 100% of his job which is to protect his aircraft and the souls on board. He done miffed it.
@andyrichardsvideovlogs8835
@andyrichardsvideovlogs8835 5 жыл бұрын
Tragic... A sad chain of circumstances.
@davidkleinthefamousp
@davidkleinthefamousp 3 жыл бұрын
Allec, this is to partly remedy that I don’t say “Thank You!” Enough!! And- God Bless!!
@jjaus
@jjaus 5 жыл бұрын
Fly the aircraft FIRST. Always.
@philmenzies2477
@philmenzies2477 5 жыл бұрын
Let me guess, your'e not actually a pilot. But on the remotest chance you are, its a single engine rating. What a fuckwit comment. You obviously have no idea how busy a cockpit is in a high capacity aircraft
@PremIndi
@PremIndi 5 жыл бұрын
Phil Menzies so was this cockpit more busy than those of the tens of thousands of flights that make it to their destination every day? Please explain how without referring to the medical emergency which is irrelevant if, as the OP said, you fly the plane. Your comment offers no rebuttal and plenty of insult to a pretty reasonable OP. Given your temperament I hope I'm never on any plane flown by you.
@ivanabcdefg9375
@ivanabcdefg9375 5 жыл бұрын
@@PremIndi don't worry, Phil Menzies never has been, and never will be, a pilot. Aside from the fact that he would have to get off the computer and leave the house, it requires a tremendous amount of book smarts.
@olivierb9716
@olivierb9716 5 жыл бұрын
@@ivanabcdefg9375because you are a pilot???
@knowsmebyname
@knowsmebyname 4 жыл бұрын
Phil for cripes sake it's a KZbin comment section. Nobody here is under oath. Why be so heavy handed? There is no group like captains. I once entertained a pilot stating that not even plane designers had the right to comment on flying...only captains. And even on you tube. Because allowing a comment on KZbin from a non captain will surely send the earth spinning off its axis.
@planespottingbacau6980
@planespottingbacau6980 5 жыл бұрын
It is still the worst air disaster in my country. Hope will never be one again
@fluffy-fluffy5996
@fluffy-fluffy5996 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully no plane crashes ever again ANYWHERE
@1rem1Art
@1rem1Art 5 жыл бұрын
We share your grief. Love from Hungary.
@jamesanderton344
@jamesanderton344 5 жыл бұрын
Terrible bad luck to have a unique mechanical problem and an incapacitated captain at the same time as poor weather.
@valeria-militiamessalina5672
@valeria-militiamessalina5672 5 жыл бұрын
You know there will be others...countless as there have been so far as long as planes keep flying
@cristan9582
@cristan9582 4 жыл бұрын
Din cauza moldovenilor.
@RO-user
@RO-user 5 ай бұрын
Hello Allec. Nice video, as always!. Actualy, there is another side story of this accident, which began in late december 1989, 28th if i remember right. One of the F/A of this flight was Camelia Jucovan who lost her life in this crash. Her husbant was also pilot for TAROM (national airline from RO). On december 28th, right after the revolution, airspace was closed for commercial flights. But due to crissis and need for blood in hospitals, an international flight bound for Belgrad was authorized, with crew of voluntiers. Pilot Walter Jucovan offered as voluntier for this flight (he was previous banned from international routes because of his brother fleed in west), among with other 6 crew members and one foreign reporter. Their flight was brought down by mistake (or not) by flake near Visina village, DB county. After Camelia and Walter remained a boy who was raised by his grants. Around the age of 14, boy climbed on a carriage of an electrified railway when an electric discharge took place, killing him instantly.
@trent3872
@trent3872 5 жыл бұрын
I really like this channel, its definitely in my top 3.
@moderoy
@moderoy 5 жыл бұрын
Good to know.
@emilschw8924
@emilschw8924 5 жыл бұрын
What a way to go... Condolences to friends and family of all the passengers and crew of this flight.
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 4 жыл бұрын
What a shocking tragedy! I’m shocked. An unfortunate series of events. Another well made video 🙂👍
@davidp2888
@davidp2888 5 жыл бұрын
You do really nice work.
@TicTac2
@TicTac2 5 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this on ACI. It seemed to me that the co-pilot put too much resource in 'caring' for the captain and not enough in flying the plane
@mihails.6398
@mihails.6398 4 жыл бұрын
Yea, right ! Interesting theories I see all over. While everybody here in Romania knowes, since that moment, that the plane was hit by a missile fired from the ground. We haven't found out who fired it, but there are some suspicions......
@brav0wing
@brav0wing 4 жыл бұрын
Again with the conspiracy theories? There was no missile, it was a series of unfortunate events!!!
@8catweazle
@8catweazle 3 жыл бұрын
@@mihails.6398 I'm from Romania and I don't go along with the conspiracy. Plenty of stories like that during the war but not here.
@jerrymarshall2095
@jerrymarshall2095 4 жыл бұрын
Great channel Allec,one of my fav o rites.
@marcuscrassuss
@marcuscrassuss 4 жыл бұрын
A310 is known for its very powerful engines. With only one engine on climb power and aircraft is not so heavy, that bank caused by Asymmetric trust probably happened very Fast. Fo tried to put AP but because aircraft wasnt trimmed properly, autopilot couldnt handle the situation. And he was also looked if captain is Okay, but once aircraft is in such bank at a very low altitude, he couldnt save the plane. Yes pilots responsibility is always fly the airplane but in this situation, noone can hardly blame first officer, this accident was almost inevaidable. RIP all who passed away.
@peteconrad2077
@peteconrad2077 4 жыл бұрын
Nonsense. It should have been well within his capabilities to handle this. He should have been there if it wasn’t.
@ahmedmamdouh2564
@ahmedmamdouh2564 5 жыл бұрын
I saw it a week ago in air crash investigation It's very sad for the captain and the co pilot and the passengers RIP all who was in this flight
@FabJK4
@FabJK4 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen the aftermath videos and...no words can describe such an impact. There was a young student girl that did not board the plane. Can't remember exactly but i think she had problems with her passport. RIP to all 60 souls.
@kenclark9888
@kenclark9888 5 жыл бұрын
Wow they always say fly the plane first. But that’s kinda hard when your fellow crew member has a medical issue
@workingguy-OU812
@workingguy-OU812 5 жыл бұрын
I guess there's the choice of potentially dead, and really making sure one's co-worker is dead.
@kenclark9888
@kenclark9888 5 жыл бұрын
Gary McMichael covers a wide variety of things
@kenclark9888
@kenclark9888 5 жыл бұрын
Gary McMichael be real
@BeachNanny
@BeachNanny 5 жыл бұрын
Gary McMichael 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@yoopernow
@yoopernow 5 жыл бұрын
"I think he's dead, so I'll just stop flying. It's the only way to be sure..."
@JoshuasPHXAviation
@JoshuasPHXAviation 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video Allec!👍👍 Keep up the awesome work!
@njones8791
@njones8791 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn’t tending to the captain he was tending to a problem. Right before the crash he told the captain “That one has failed”. He sure didn’t think the captain was dead.
@JamesThompson-oz8kh
@JamesThompson-oz8kh 5 жыл бұрын
The first rule my first flight instructor taught me at the very beginning of my aviation career, “Fly The Plane”. That is especially true in emergencies when you are likely to be excited and distracted. This is a horrific example of why.
@ACPilot
@ACPilot 5 жыл бұрын
James Thompson - Aviate, Navigate, Communicate..
@JamesThompson-oz8kh
@JamesThompson-oz8kh 5 жыл бұрын
@@ACPilot Absolutely! 👍
@alexandrucatalinciorap8977
@alexandrucatalinciorap8977 4 жыл бұрын
I have learnt about this accident early in my life because in a small village in Romania it is buried one of the sterwardesses of this flight and she has a plane wing with a poem at her tomb.
@Tiger_dude_3535
@Tiger_dude_3535 4 жыл бұрын
"Since then, there had been no reported cases of thrust asymmetry on the Airbus A310." Not true. There was another case of thrust asymmetry on the A310 when on July 9, 2006, S7 Airlines Flight 778 overshot the runway during landing at Irkutsk Airport, killing 125 of the 203 people on board. Unlike flight 371, flight 778 did not experience a mechanical failure and the cause of the crash was pilot error; the captain accidentally caused the left engine to go into takeoff mode. The reverse on the left engine was not activated, as it was disabled. The reverse on the right engine was applied as required, but with the left engine generating power, a thrust asymmetry occurred and the aircraft overshot the runway. It's a precursor to TAM flight 3054.
@philo5096
@philo5096 4 жыл бұрын
Thanx buddy.
@oopsmemeshaveshortlifespan1191
@oopsmemeshaveshortlifespan1191 5 жыл бұрын
I'm romanian and this is very sad but good job Allec
@kilt81
@kilt81 5 жыл бұрын
Guys: aviate, navigate, comunicate. Always make sure the aircraft is under control, speed, attitude... Use automation but always verify autopilot and autothrottle or autothrust are doing what expected. Only then take care of other issues. Or it might get ugly. Read FMA!
@olivierb9716
@olivierb9716 5 жыл бұрын
the number of perfect pilot here is incredibul
@jonlaroche5239
@jonlaroche5239 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more Oliver...these people seem to think he had all day to recover the plane. It was at 4200 ft. in a left turn in a climb in the clouds when the capt. who was guarding the throttles had a heart attack. When exactly was he supposed to call the cabin crew?
@paulcooper8818
@paulcooper8818 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunate the First Officer did not attend to the plane before the Captain Very bad luck for everyone else
@brav0wing
@brav0wing 4 жыл бұрын
How? Have you ever guarded the throttle and fly a plane just after a take off, while seeing the Captain having a heart attack next to you?
@Spyke-lz2hl
@Spyke-lz2hl 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, fly the plane first... This is an unbelievable set of circumstances, an ill pilot, a faulty airplane, and a confused first officer...
@spacebar3119
@spacebar3119 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Alec if you are reading this I love your content and hope you are well
@ferdrewflores3014
@ferdrewflores3014 4 жыл бұрын
Boy am I learning SO MUCH; especially guarding my LIFE !! 🙏 AJ 😊🔯🕊 !
@cristiancristi9384
@cristiancristi9384 4 жыл бұрын
Here in Romania there is quite a controversy about this crash in people's mind... This is the reason that much information about this accident is hidden from public eye.... Many say it was in fact a sabotage due to some high profile passengers that were uncomfortable to the regime , and many whitnesses say they saw the plane explode in a fire ball before falling to pieces down to ground, and that it was really a bomb and the pilot's death was a "convenient" explanation for its crash in the official inquiery. In a private reportage made with anonimate cover, Some workers claimed they had found some parts of the plane's interior furniture on the landing strip, and for those parts to get that far away from the place where the plane actually crashed, it would support the theory about the plane exploding in the air prior to the crash... We may never know the truth... I was really curious how this event is officially seen abroad, because here in Romania we never heard an actual credible solid explanation for it. Even seeing it mentioned here is a big thing for me at least 😁
@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043
@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. It took an awful long time for the issue to just be fixed! Smh. RIP everyone onboard this doomed flight.
@jgsh8062
@jgsh8062 5 жыл бұрын
An issue with an autothrottle isn't a big deal. Pilots are able to fly without a god damn computer controlling the throttles.
@rodolfoayalajr.8589
@rodolfoayalajr.8589 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you friend for educating us with this sad 😞 story. Rip Amen 🙏🏻.
@UseAnAdblocker
@UseAnAdblocker Жыл бұрын
I flew with Tarom in 1990. It was the only flight that has ever truly scared me. The craft was literally shaking and felt as if it was about to break up. The Romanian people had endured 25 long years of savage austerity and deplorable, inhumane totalitarianism. It was effectively a third world country. They would face a further five years of the same, despite a courageous uprising.
@andersschoen3613
@andersschoen3613 3 жыл бұрын
In aviation we say: Aviate Navigate Communicate. Never stop flying the airplane regardless what happens. That is always no1. A pilot with that experience should easily be able to fly straight and level, disconnect the auto throttles if they are acting up and set a trust setting that result in a safe speed for either slats extended or retracted. Once satisfied its all safe even if manual flight, with 1 simple push button contact the flight attendant to enter the cockpit to attend to the other pilot. Its not that difficult. We do it regularly in simulators.
@carolmorris404
@carolmorris404 5 жыл бұрын
A "greating card" on the dash!! They might have well put a Condolences Card. Thanks for the video, Allec. RIP
@PremIndi
@PremIndi 5 жыл бұрын
Is a greating card just one step up from a gooding card?
@carolmorris404
@carolmorris404 5 жыл бұрын
@@PremIndi no, a greating card goes something like "Hello, I hope you have a wonderful day and enjoy every moment of it". A condolences card goes "I am very sorry to hear of your tragic news. My sincere condolences for your loss".
@PremIndi
@PremIndi 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry Carol it was a bad joke. It's 'greeting' rather than 'greating'. ☺️
@carolmorris404
@carolmorris404 5 жыл бұрын
@@PremIndi oopsy, autospelling and I didn't read my comment before posting. Sorry and Thank you.
@santiagogonzalez1286
@santiagogonzalez1286 5 жыл бұрын
The event on taroms flt 371 teach us to verify every command given, that can save us from a catastrophe like in this case.
@mjl1966y
@mjl1966y 4 жыл бұрын
That's why you don't just put a card in the cockpit when a flight control system is not functioning properly - especially something as critical as throttle management during climbout. You ground the birds and fix them. Having to manually overcome a faulty flight system as an SOP is no bueno.
@neilherrera5497
@neilherrera5497 5 жыл бұрын
Very sad and tragic! Rest In Peace to all the passengers and crews on board TAROM Flight 371.
@MainMite06
@MainMite06 5 жыл бұрын
I have these unanswerable questions: 1. Was the F.O even aware of the autothrottle issue? -*why would he engage autopilot if he was?* 2. Does/did this F.O. know the common rule that "flying the plane comes first"? -*If he did, then, why didnt he summon a flight attendent or a steward/ess to the cockpit?* 3.How good was this captain's health predating this accident? -*I personally think that this 'faint' he probably did was his first & last 'faint*
@RubenThomas
@RubenThomas 5 жыл бұрын
Finally! Nice job Allec.
@billyost1479
@billyost1479 4 жыл бұрын
Three rules created by WWII fighter pilots seems to have been forgotten in this accident. AVIATE, NAVIGATE and then COMMUNICATE! The CP should have kept to HIS job appointed at the time... fly the damn plane. Trying to help the captain was NOT the job of the co-pilot. The co-pilot's mistake caused the deaths of all onboard. Aviate, navigate then... and only then... communicate. This aircraft had at least five other crew members working the back that he SHOULD HAVE called to the cockpit to check on the pilot while he continued to fly manually. WHAT WAS THE CO-PILOT THINKING!?!
@supahfly1972
@supahfly1972 5 жыл бұрын
You are very prolific, Allec Joshua Ibay. I love that about your channel
@andreitarca4891
@andreitarca4891 4 жыл бұрын
Cine e roman și se uita la asta??
@georgemallory797
@georgemallory797 4 жыл бұрын
What I was taught from day one: Fly The Airplane. What a senseless waste of human life.
@matthewgauthier7251
@matthewgauthier7251 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@trevgurian6885
@trevgurian6885 5 жыл бұрын
Please don't kill the messenger, but it is appropriate to say that the rule of "No matter what happens, fly the plane" fits this scenario. While I completely appreciate the likelihood that the co-pilot may have been concerned with the captains condition, he needed to focus on the flying and perhaps call another crew member to attend to the captain. And, by the way, I am a pilot.
@novola1972
@novola1972 5 жыл бұрын
Allec great job
@alandickerson3379
@alandickerson3379 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Allec for another great video!! This was a sad accident. Hope you are doing okay!!
@iamlegend978
@iamlegend978 5 жыл бұрын
I am reading all the comments and could feel how everyone feels. This video brought the real scene in front of our eyes.
@charlieninervn8231
@charlieninervn8231 4 жыл бұрын
Man I have flown this route many times over the past 12 years and never knew about this crash......Hey pilots, please do not forget to fly the airplane.....
@carlosdyer5868
@carlosdyer5868 3 жыл бұрын
Horribly sad ! Why wasn't the faulty throttle repaired?
@armaansaumya
@armaansaumya 5 жыл бұрын
Great work Allec ! Just a small suggestion, at times the white text isn't visible on the the light background, so if you could maybe change the text color to something darker ! Thanks
@mirceapintelie361
@mirceapintelie361 4 жыл бұрын
why did the autopilot disengaged?🧐
@nenblom
@nenblom 5 жыл бұрын
May all on board RIP.
@charlieninervn8231
@charlieninervn8231 4 жыл бұрын
I have flown this flight! WOW frightening.
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 5 жыл бұрын
Two unrelated issues (auto throttle and the captain's heart attack), neither of which would have necessarily crashed the plane, conspired together to cause this tragedy. So many crashes are because of two or three issues that happen at the same time.
@jyralnadreth4442
@jyralnadreth4442 4 жыл бұрын
A crappy situation for sure. Warning cards instead of fixing the damn problem......🤨 My sympathies to all aboard
@danielleclare2938
@danielleclare2938 5 жыл бұрын
Rule #1... Fly the plane... failure to do so can result in catastrophe the CoPilot quit flying!!! On takeoff if the door opens leave it fly the plane the door can wait ask me how I know...etc etc...
@devinspruill
@devinspruill 4 жыл бұрын
Man, that’s a true disaster. Soo sad for all involved.
@SidecarHero1
@SidecarHero1 4 жыл бұрын
That's why there are two pilots on the plane, and the copilot dropped the ball big time
@tararay7007
@tararay7007 4 жыл бұрын
"That one has failed." Famous last words
@5wheels178
@5wheels178 3 жыл бұрын
This is the weirdest crash, everything about it.
@TheAtypicalOne
@TheAtypicalOne 4 жыл бұрын
In the late 1990s there was a book published about airline safety called "The Tombstone Imperative". The author proposed that (a) a human life has a monetary value, and (b) regulators, manufacturers and airlines only make improvements to safety when there are enough deaths (and lawsuits) to justify the expense. I don't remember if this very sad accident was in the book, but it seems like a classic example.
@savcris08
@savcris08 5 жыл бұрын
Plane Crashes Every one in 1980: Did you know a DC-10 Crashed Every one in 2020: Did you know a 737 Max Crashed Plane that crashed: Airbus A-310
@pioneltapinessi947
@pioneltapinessi947 5 жыл бұрын
What?
@savcris08
@savcris08 5 жыл бұрын
The media thinks every plane is 737 max these days and even if it’s grounded they will say 737 or A380 even the 747 and old people a DC-10
@billolsen4360
@billolsen4360 5 жыл бұрын
Airbus: "Hey, guys, those faulty autothrottle controls killed a bunch of people nine months ago, maybe we should tell the airlines how to fix them. What da ya say?"
@mvanrensburg5497
@mvanrensburg5497 5 жыл бұрын
Why didn't the plane say "Bank Angle"?
@psw4763
@psw4763 5 жыл бұрын
Such a horrible situation. Instead of a reminder card fix the issue people's lives are at stake. A helpless feeling seeing that plane going down and nothing passengers can do about it. It's heartbreaking for passengers and crew
@AD-yi3qz
@AD-yi3qz 5 жыл бұрын
A faulty piece of equipment. Nothing done to fix the problem. And many people died needlessly. What a crime.
@peaceseeker6436
@peaceseeker6436 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a reenactment of PAN AM's last flight out of Saigon.
@pilotgabriel5290
@pilotgabriel5290 5 жыл бұрын
You have no idea for how many time I wait this video
@jeffsteury4645
@jeffsteury4645 4 жыл бұрын
The First Officer accumulated 8,988 hours, and yet never learned how to fly! As in "FLY THE AIRPLANE"!
@russellmontielmontojo1974
@russellmontielmontojo1974 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my I pity the poor souls who died in that airplane accident. very.heartbreaking
@tomney4460
@tomney4460 5 жыл бұрын
Good vid allec
@Capecodham
@Capecodham 5 жыл бұрын
What did you do with the time you saved not typing eo?
@jmp.t28b99
@jmp.t28b99 5 жыл бұрын
First Officer totally forgot what he was there for. Fly the airplane, analyze the situation, take corrective action. He was poorly trained.
@LHFX
@LHFX 4 жыл бұрын
The co-pilot had plenty of time to recover the aircraft AFTER he became aware of the dangerous bank angle and all the bells and whistles started going off in the cockpit. What he did immediately next was to push the stick LEFT instead of RIGHT, resulting in the airplane quickly turning upside down and going in a 80 degree negative pitch angle. Basically he couldn't tell left from right and one theory is that he misinterpreted the reading of the artificial horizon. He had most of his hours on IL-18 and IL-62 where the artificial horizon works in reverse. This is also written in the official report. It was pilot error and the rest are contributing factors at most.
@CandyGirl44
@CandyGirl44 4 жыл бұрын
What was on the CVR after the captain fell ill, or passed away? Surely the F/O would not have been silent? Why is it conjecture that he was trying to find out what happened to the captain?
@kentwilliams4152
@kentwilliams4152 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe it just me, but it seems that the more automated an aircraft is the more difficult it is for the pilots to respond to an emergency, but then again, I have only flown light aircraft with no automation.
@morganrothe9911
@morganrothe9911 4 жыл бұрын
I agree Kent..automation and greed and hubris that fuels it has caused alot of needless deaths...less is more alot of the time...Flown light aircraft... only soloed a few times but....been a student of aviation more or less for 35 years...mostly armchair but....this is sad one...Tarom must have been sued extensively for the auto-throttle idiocy...very disturbing and difficult recovery scene of course...My deepest condolences to the families of these souls.....recovery teams...etc..may these souls rest in Peace . ... ...
@peterirwin6409
@peterirwin6409 4 жыл бұрын
With that kind of problem, these planes should have been grounded until it was fixed.
@ewilloch
@ewilloch 5 жыл бұрын
Somebody should be in jail for causing this accident by not fixing the throttle problem.
@propellerhead9197
@propellerhead9197 4 жыл бұрын
The co pilot forgot the rules of aviation. 1 AVIATE , 2 Navigate 3 COMMUNMICATE
@smartysmarty1714
@smartysmarty1714 5 жыл бұрын
Another tragedy, brought to you by Scare-Bus...
@robodabbler
@robodabbler 5 жыл бұрын
You used to be able to say, "...if it ain't Boeing, I ain't going." But then they took it to the Max...
@jeremypearson6852
@jeremypearson6852 4 жыл бұрын
This is a little like the King Air incident where the pilot died and a passenger had to land the plane. Obviously, it was a much smaller aircraft and didn’t have the mechanical issue, but the passenger had virtually no flying experience. As one other comment stated, fly the plane first and worry about the captain second.
@danielbrown1724
@danielbrown1724 4 жыл бұрын
Problem with a lot of these overseas Airlines is cheap maintenance workers that basically cut corners to save the Airline as much money as possible. Proper Airline maintenance and upkeep requires an ongoing investment from the company. However it would appear that once the Airline acquires the aircraft from Airbus or Boeing, they don't want to invest any more time and money into proper maintenance and upkeep. Quite sad really!!
@cancelanime1507
@cancelanime1507 5 жыл бұрын
No views, 11 likes? KZbin is drinking again
@zyrrhos
@zyrrhos 5 жыл бұрын
Could be your computer is soused.
@333anders6
@333anders6 5 жыл бұрын
private first then public
@augustineminimbi5668
@augustineminimbi5668 4 жыл бұрын
This is a sad and heartwrenching story. All this pain would have been spared had the FO called cabin crew to sort out the captain.
@mfcmichael3564
@mfcmichael3564 4 жыл бұрын
Airbus let the Plane fly with a Technical Problem??? DAMN. WHAT IS WRONG WITH AIRBUS???
@Cissy2cute
@Cissy2cute 4 жыл бұрын
Why did they not fix the technical problem instead of leaving a card warning the pilots about it? The FO was probably in shock about the Captain, but there are several instances where a Captain suffered a fatal heart attack in the air and the FO got himself together and brought the plane to the ground. However as with most crashes, there are multiple reasons why the tragedy occurred. RIP to all on board.
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