Fate Lore - The Tale of Iskandar

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@bobbyadityaekapratama7743
@bobbyadityaekapratama7743 6 жыл бұрын
king of conquerors, a Bro of us all
@rinokumura7371
@rinokumura7371 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby Aditya Eka Pratama What About Cu Cu Bro?
@chibisistah143
@chibisistah143 6 жыл бұрын
ISKANDAR VS SANTA ALTER - WCS PH 2018 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3nFgImYeZtpa7s
@desiliatj1499
@desiliatj1499 5 жыл бұрын
He will always be the best bro in the entire fate series and especially in my heart
@Lemuel928
@Lemuel928 4 жыл бұрын
The Bro of all Bruhs.
@Kuristina_M
@Kuristina_M 6 жыл бұрын
I cried during Fate Zero, I cried again here.
@AlterAce
@AlterAce 6 жыл бұрын
Broskander ;_; the entire him vs gil fight and especially the scenes before and after were just amazingly done in the anime. I still consider it one of the single best episodes of any anime ever
@LoboEye
@LoboEye 6 жыл бұрын
AceCube The Baquent of the Three Kings is also in that category.
@LeonGun8
@LeonGun8 5 жыл бұрын
I dare disagree about that. That scene felt like Urobuchi trying to cram his views into the reader's throat more than anything else. He had an obvious bias toward Alexander the Great to the point his faults are entirely ignored, which is strange because Gilgamesh is still shown as having failings despite his less maniacal nature in Zero. It would have been fine if he showed all three kings as having both merits and flaws, but there was an obvious disposition towards one of them while treating Alexander as this totally flawless King when in essence he was no true King,he was a conqueror who only knew how to assimilate nations and proceed towards new lands while leaving his subjects to lead his conquered lands. There's a good reason why the Empire of Alexander the Great fell the moment he died,and it was because of how bad he was at properly administrating and delegating his empire. He failed to create a dinasty. The only great moments that show Alexander The Great's properly as a legendary King are the scenes with Waver where he shows precisely the charisma that explains how he was able to rope an entire nation to conquer entire civilizations without actual reasons. And his final fight with Gilgamesh where the two of them show each other mutual respect as Kings.
@momopenguins7335
@momopenguins7335 4 жыл бұрын
@@LeonGun8 I disagree with the inclination that alexander was presented without flaw, its the fact that his philosophy in the show is to live life to its fullest including all the positive and negative aspects which makes his flaw a perceived strength. All 3 kings in this show have the same kind of perceived and actual flaws in their leadership and how then went about it but the difference was sheer overwhelming conviction on the end of alexander which the other 2 didn't really have in theirs (astoria was shaky after and during the banquet and had actually lived through the end of her reign and thus was already really messed up by that and gil seemingly couldn't have cared less because instead of being boastful and wearing his ideals on his sleeve, he was more or less sheerly and totally un-convincible ). As such the negative aspects of alexanders rule didn't really come into play. He was a great conquerer and thats all that was required for the war. No setup for posterity was there or needed because of how the murder-death-kill functions. His mentality and ideals for the battles were the best of the three in this situation because all he had to do was fight and even in that you could see how he would make a fairly bad ruler in peacetime. For the historical leader alexander the great I wouldn't be able to make an in depth argument because of my extremely limited knowledge on the subject matter, but from what I can find easily, his goal was never to make a dynasty or have it be lasting.(which if the idea of not looking out for the future was thing you're knocking him on I wouldn't be able to refute that but I would say that was kind of exemplified in fate zero itself) He never set up a long term plan for successors and died before that and thus his poor long term planning lead confusion and infighting which, from what I can gather, is his fault.
@Lemuel928
@Lemuel928 4 жыл бұрын
Even Gilgamesh approves him as a most worthy opponent.
@jamaldavis831
@jamaldavis831 6 жыл бұрын
Iskander: the most interesting servant in the world.
@gamecrusher5518
@gamecrusher5518 6 жыл бұрын
Iskander a true man among men, who wanted to rule everything and do it right. No grail or tricks it's by his hands or not at all. Truly it is why a great many chose to follow him and place themselves on a higher pedestal than they thought themselves as. To overcome all limitations and surpass even those that was the way of Alexander the Great
@caesta7168
@caesta7168 6 жыл бұрын
GameCrusher 55 But In reality, he wasn't that bro like
@gamecrusher5518
@gamecrusher5518 6 жыл бұрын
- Senpai how so, he was always helpful and supportive to anyone he considered an ally, and whipped them into shape when they hit a wall
@caesta7168
@caesta7168 6 жыл бұрын
GameCrusher 55 He killed a good friend. Many Makedonik solidiers, felt like, they got betrayed. Iskander was stubborn tho
@gamecrusher5518
@gamecrusher5518 6 жыл бұрын
- Senpai what do you mean by that the video doesn't state any such comrade slaying
@caesta7168
@caesta7168 6 жыл бұрын
GameCrusher 55 Kleitos, the man who served his father and than him, he saved Alexander from the death. He was angry about him, bcs. he felt like he got replacet, so he sayed, that his father was greater than him and so Alexander got angry and killed him
@Solqueen86
@Solqueen86 4 жыл бұрын
Iskander so great that he gave Waver Velvet the courage to bark back at Gil
@jiryensaber6090
@jiryensaber6090 5 жыл бұрын
But he did fufill his wish to reach the sea. The waves of Okeanos were there in Japan the entire time. Sadly, not realized until the end. But dying with his greatest wish fufilled? Inspirational to any and all. As said previously (Nate Hill) he is admired in the series not just for his great power but also for his candid humanity. Humans make mistakes and indulge, but he was not one to hide from it, or believe somoehow he was above or below such things. Uniting and ruling such a vast area is no small task. He earned his right to speak as a King and just like any group, some will agree and others with not. So even if don't like or agree, you have to respect such a man. How he lived, how he faught, and how he impacted history. Speaking of, history remains one of my best and favorite subjects. I was a subsitute teacher for a few years until I felt my real calling, but I often asked my high school class if anyone was an anime fan and suggested the Fate series. While not totally accurate, I joked that if they could make history and other subjects an Anime, many more kids would enjoy it and stay in school. Naturally, my bosses at the time repremanded me, but I persisted. Even talking about Japan. I turned a class bored to death and mostly failing about other history as well, to suddenly wanting to know about Jeanne D'ARC and some others after Fate Apocrpha. What can I say? I know what was going on. But the guys loved her and the girls thought she was inspiring. I learned a couple years AFTER leaving, a couple kids struggling with these things, did very well and supposedly said I helped them. Whether it was true or not, I don't know. Even if it was, I remiss, I just guided them to another door. Not everyone learns things the same way. IMHO and 2 cents.
@MrSagaTeller
@MrSagaTeller 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your story!
@shikitohno47
@shikitohno47 2 жыл бұрын
This is fucking awesome. Needed more teachers like you growing up lol
@jacopoarmini7889
@jacopoarmini7889 6 жыл бұрын
oddly, this series is full of prettyboys, but the only one who historically was a prettyboy isn't. How ironic...
@someperson5109
@someperson5109 4 жыл бұрын
What about Astolfo?
@garethstewart9989
@garethstewart9989 4 жыл бұрын
Technically he can be summoned from his younger years, so...
@Binks129
@Binks129 4 жыл бұрын
He traded away his prettyboyness for badassness
@Djinn_Entonic
@Djinn_Entonic 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe he is not pretty but you can deny his cuteness.
@artispace2329
@artispace2329 4 жыл бұрын
Iskandar is in his 30s
@aminebachir3394
@aminebachir3394 6 жыл бұрын
This dude is the shit, having an army in a reality marble is so cool :D
@generaljimmies3429
@generaljimmies3429 6 жыл бұрын
He wanted Gigamesh on his side so that his army could be armed with the endless amount of legendary weapons the come from Gilgamesh's Gate of Babylon.
@angelodavidmarabolivarela9505
@angelodavidmarabolivarela9505 4 жыл бұрын
@@generaljimmies3429 that could be a reality with the Gil caster
@Adhjie
@Adhjie 4 жыл бұрын
@@angelodavidmarabolivarela9505 ft enkidu on top of the mountain *cues the PV*
@DeathGodRiku
@DeathGodRiku 6 жыл бұрын
As much as I like UBW, Zero is my favorite of the Fate series. Most of the servants are just so likable and are just fleshed out more than in UBW. Apocrypha had too many characters and couldn't flesh out all of the servants like Zero did.
@djnovak8706
@djnovak8706 4 жыл бұрын
Iskandar is not only a badass, but one of the few male bi icons in anime (even though it’s never stated in the series proper, the writer confirmed this version of Iskandar is bisexual as well). It’s just cool to know that, and makes me like his character even more, only one of many qualities that makes him my favorite servant in Fate/Zero. Great video, and loved all the research put into it!
@grimmjow28
@grimmjow28 6 жыл бұрын
sad reacts only Nah, but real talk Iskandar was the King of All Bros
@OlPalJoe
@OlPalJoe 4 жыл бұрын
its sad, Him and gilgamesh could have been great friends. He'd probably be a good influence on Him as well.
@kuhakuxsenpai
@kuhakuxsenpai 6 жыл бұрын
Iskanbro.
@obelac
@obelac 6 жыл бұрын
Brokander
@GreenTideStudio
@GreenTideStudio 3 жыл бұрын
Iskandamn
@AllYourPals
@AllYourPals 3 жыл бұрын
broskander. kind of chads
@SonnyFRST
@SonnyFRST 6 жыл бұрын
Broskandar is best Iskandar... T_T (Still waiting for a Fate/Anime where adult Waver summons child Alexander, and they fight someone with Child Gil)
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
Sonny FIRESTORM Making children beat each other up. Such a cruel world.
@SonnyFRST
@SonnyFRST 6 жыл бұрын
Beat each other up? I was thinking of something Carnival Phantasm-esque actually...
@Adhjie
@Adhjie 4 жыл бұрын
@@otakudaikun hah! those are just kid boss - big boss
@lordoz2578
@lordoz2578 6 жыл бұрын
Great job on this one. Iskander snd Waver had some of the best synergy in FZ(along with Uryu and Giles). Thinking on doing Lancelot next? Or doing Fate Apocrypha Servants?
@parkermaisterra8532
@parkermaisterra8532 6 жыл бұрын
Man it's really impressive if you think about how far you've gone. Your more than half-way through the servants of the 4th grail war thanks to this video which means all you need is just Assassin (Hundred-face), Berserker (Lancelot) and Caster (Gilles) and then you'll have finished the Servants involved with the 4th and 5th Fuyuki grail wars. Man less than half a year ago it felt like there were no lore videos on anything Type-moon related but now not just this but multiple channels do videos on this crazy multiverse. Gotta love it.
@epicmarschmallow5049
@epicmarschmallow5049 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. Yes. And yes. All hail the king of Bro's
@Archetype_Angel
@Archetype_Angel 6 жыл бұрын
While the main focus of this video is Iskandar itself, I can't stop thinking about the Fate Grand Order Zero Accel event, where old Waver gets a second chance and tries to do things better in the fourth holy grail war. Not to mention his conversations with Iskandar. Then again, this would probably fit better in a Lore video for Waver/Zhuge Liang instead.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
Angel Lozano V That was a fun event. Waver telling his younger self to choke on rice and die.
@xxChainingHeartsxx
@xxChainingHeartsxx 6 жыл бұрын
So in order to raise his divinity he had to sacrifice his beauty? HA, well looks like he managed to cheat the system then because his adult self ended up way hotter 💕 @OtakuDaikun: thanks for finally doing a vid on best husbando (well one of them) in Fates series.
@Archetype_Angel
@Archetype_Angel 6 жыл бұрын
Kinda reminds me to Disney's Hercules when he mentioned that extreme physical change
@jamaldavis831
@jamaldavis831 6 жыл бұрын
Iskander would be great at keg parties.
@lackusshock
@lackusshock 4 жыл бұрын
Ikandar cutting the know with his sword is a pretty good summary of what kind of person he is. He is fair enough to accept a challenge but will ultimately conquer it with sheer force and audacity.
@Pip1397
@Pip1397 6 жыл бұрын
His soundtrack. Aghhh the feeeeeeeeels. It's so beautiful.
@quantum5661
@quantum5661 6 жыл бұрын
its 3:25 am goddamnit! but so worth it... iskandar, the best bro ever. i cried like a goddamn baby in ep 23, anyone else?
@drsatanrx
@drsatanrx 6 жыл бұрын
Quantum those werent baby tears. They were manly tears!
@HP-wk6fg
@HP-wk6fg 4 жыл бұрын
that is weird but mordred died in ep 23 too.
@justanunluckyirishmaninabl5178
@justanunluckyirishmaninabl5178 6 жыл бұрын
I knew I should have gotten rid of this bowl of onions before watching this.
@johngreatfox1382
@johngreatfox1382 6 жыл бұрын
all hail to the King of Conquerors
@RogueBlood343
@RogueBlood343 6 жыл бұрын
"I can make this world as real as real can ever be because still exist in our hearts"
@piratekrook1183
@piratekrook1183 6 жыл бұрын
I used to be a conqueror like you but then I took an arrow to the chest
@spirz4557
@spirz4557 6 жыл бұрын
I want to hug him. I awlays picture him as the travelling member of a family, who always have funny stories and tales to tell. (And I got goosebumps during the whole video. Your voice is wonderful, mate)
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
paolo geymet Thank you^^
@Anaheylaatyahoo
@Anaheylaatyahoo 2 жыл бұрын
Why is baby Iskandar so disgustingly adorbs. Between that and his adult self being a total bro, I doubt there's any question that Iskandar is one of, if not THE coolest Servant.
@MrGksarathy
@MrGksarathy 6 жыл бұрын
It's funny how Iskandar ultimately is the reason both Taiga and Waver became teachers to the same students. Also, that whole encounter is why I ship the two. That and the lols.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
Gautam Sarathy I'm sensing a doujin lol
@MrGksarathy
@MrGksarathy 6 жыл бұрын
OtakuDaiKun Oh I can't draw for shit, but if someone else has already made one, I would be thankful and pleasantly surprised.
@Ethan-un5mk
@Ethan-un5mk 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this video since I found out about this series! Great video! Keep up the good work man
@KaelanSwan
@KaelanSwan 6 жыл бұрын
I'm lucky enough to be named of him.
@badbeardbill9956
@badbeardbill9956 5 жыл бұрын
“Near to the east In a part of Ancient Greece” Gilgamesh wishes Iron Maiden wrote a song about him.
@demetriosavdalis5574
@demetriosavdalis5574 6 жыл бұрын
The Greek freak Alex
@dritzzjoney
@dritzzjoney 5 жыл бұрын
He is by far my favorite hero.
@kingdomdani
@kingdomdani 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Iskandar transformed from a generic bishi to a bara god. I see nothing wrong there.
@mrcenas
@mrcenas 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is, i always knew him as Alexander.... First time i heard the name Iskandar was in Fate Zero...
@kangaroo-vq3jk
@kangaroo-vq3jk 6 жыл бұрын
This is the one I've been waiting for!!!!
@2Btoobee
@2Btoobee 5 жыл бұрын
His every screen time in Fate Zero is fun, I didn't expect to like this Servant.
@samuszerosuit0956
@samuszerosuit0956 6 жыл бұрын
In FGO he is one of the strongest rider, the real bro
@true2anime920
@true2anime920 6 жыл бұрын
These vids are the best when i'm writing or illustrating my manga
@AtelierGod
@AtelierGod 6 жыл бұрын
I hope that either Brynhildr or Boudica is next for one of only two servants of norse mythology needs some love or since Iskandar is a bro to us all we need the lore on the sister to all of us.
@drsatanrx
@drsatanrx 6 жыл бұрын
Atelier God isnt boudica a celt though???
@AtelierGod
@AtelierGod 6 жыл бұрын
drsatanrx why do you think I put an “or” in there?
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
I've got Lancelot and Jeanne coming up next.
@Adhjie
@Adhjie 4 жыл бұрын
@@otakudaikun hey what about altera? attila the hun?
@Adhjie
@Adhjie 4 жыл бұрын
@@AtelierGod but or is used when the details are the same kind, no?
@monteemann7325
@monteemann7325 4 жыл бұрын
i need an anime of just Iskandar and weaver... carnival phantasm that shit make it a buddy cop comedy.
@Pip1397
@Pip1397 6 жыл бұрын
When I saw that Okeanos was a singularity in fgo, I was scared that I'd have to fight Iskandar cuz y'know. So I was very glad that I didn't have to fight Broskandar.
@WyseWalker
@WyseWalker 6 жыл бұрын
One of the men I actually consider a role model.
@Thewisemanoncesaid
@Thewisemanoncesaid 6 жыл бұрын
This video got me thinking. Has waver received more praise and blessings from heroic spirits than anyone else?
@lostonessoul8435
@lostonessoul8435 6 жыл бұрын
Iskandar is my favorite is my favorite rider!
@thespikeheadboy3164
@thespikeheadboy3164 6 жыл бұрын
Iskandar truly is a great companion and oh yeah. It seems that after Waver hypnotized Taiga Iskandar wanted to steal more wine barrels from the market for Taiga but Waver stopped him
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Yeoh Rider doesn't understand you can't just take stuff.
@mercenarygundam1487
@mercenarygundam1487 6 жыл бұрын
Instant army: Just add Iskandar
@ron2millionare972
@ron2millionare972 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you included that part with Taiga.
@MaxHDAvenger
@MaxHDAvenger 6 жыл бұрын
That Taiga bit of the lore lol
@MaxHDAvenger
@MaxHDAvenger 6 жыл бұрын
But besides the funny part, the lore video itself is hard to explain in my own words.
@NerdyBlue
@NerdyBlue 6 жыл бұрын
I love the relationship between waver and rider
@kingofbel6499
@kingofbel6499 6 жыл бұрын
More than just a historical figure, he is the example every man should follow.
@trasonjones1102
@trasonjones1102 6 жыл бұрын
man i love these vids
@justafatefan3901
@justafatefan3901 6 жыл бұрын
This dude here earned my respect. Not because he's a king or because he had power. It was how honest and humble he seemed in Fate: Zero. His humanity and personality is just amazing one of the best characters ever.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
Lord Hakumen Yeah. There is definitely something respectable in his honesty.
@theunchosenone4610
@theunchosenone4610 6 жыл бұрын
I Love your Lore videos. The Lore behind the servants are very interesting. And I really like your voice tbh
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
Nathan Kima Thank you^^
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 6 жыл бұрын
(LONG COMMENT)While i am not opposed to the fact, that the Nasuverse adds to the Historical figures some superpowers, changes or leaves out some minor parts about the backstory as well as changing thier appereance, i find myself, as someone quite knowledgable about History, troubled with how they presented Iskander´s story in the series and gives me a bad impression on Type moon´s view on said historical figures, even though i like the Nasuverse. With no further do here are some extra infos on the lore of Iskander´s and the Mistakes Nasu made on it: - The name Iskander is the persian version of his true name: Aléxandros or commongly known as Alexander here in the west. I call him here Alexander because i find it better. - Alexander wasn´t really all that bulky nor had he a bead, he looked, in fact very elegant and well built(not Bulky) for his time, though very short( The last one is a nitpick, but i just wanted to say it.) - His Incredible Military prowess and abilities were noticed first, when he helped his father Phillip II in the battle of Chaeronea, not his battles in the balkans. - Not only did he razed Thebes, he also enslaved thousands of it´s inhabitans and sold them to slavery and this was just one of the many cities he would ruin or destroy, like the City of Tyre for putting too much up of a fight and Persepolis,albeit not destoyed, got very heavily damaged with the burning of the great Libary of said City as casualty and it wasn´t just any Libary, it was the biggest in it´s age. -And as we are speaking of his abilites, he, while being very hot-tempered, aggressive, very Emotional and Egotistical, he was a excellent stragetist and Military Commander, who used his brilliant Genius to defeat his Enemies and did not, like in Fate/Zero charged at full speed at his opponents like a steamroller. In fact, the very Alexander-thing he would have probably done is tohave first distracted king Arthur by using his soldiers as decoy to distract her and *THEN* attacked her in a suprise attack with her not being able to counter it. Him just charging at Saber like a insane bull just doesn´t do his reowned military skills any justice and more or less debunked his image as great General, as such behavior would have gotten him killed way earlier in his Champaign, because contrary to what you guys believe, his battles were not easy at all. - Darius III did not ride on an Elephant, but on a war chariot(which had at that time become obsolete for Military useage)with Horses tied on it like it is expected from a proper Persian King, something Darius had never been. You see, he was actually, despite what Nasu would have shown you, a very weak and incopetent leader, who couldn´t lead any of his soldiers properly and made many Military mistakes that someone with a greater Military mind would not have done, like attacking on unfavorable terrain like in the battle of issus, not putting any guards before himself to protect him and constantly running away from Alexander, when he faced during the battle of gaugamela. This lack of Military discipline is what led to the downfall of the Acheamenid empire in the first place. - The whole "Zeus Ammon" thing came actually very earlier than that. When he began to invade Egypt, a Kingdom that was never really found on the Persians, since they were abused by them. So seeing someone like Alexander coming to the, was a blessing for the skies to them at that time,thus they surrendered to him without offering any resistance. As Exchange for liberating them from Persia, they supplied his army with all the resource they needed for his conquest of the Remaining Persian satraps(the persian word for a autonomous state inside a empire). While staying in Egypt, he visited the legendary Oracle of Siwa,which pretty much confirmed his identity as child of Zeus-Amon( they should have given him a NP that creates Lightning bolts made of Solat Energy to reflect on this), a belief he would hold to, even in and in the nasuverse after death. -Another reason, why he was able to maintain his large empire during his life time wasn´t just his Charisma and his prowess, it had also to do with his progressive policy of letting the conquered people to pretty much allow to hold onto thier Cultures, dresses and Religions, which were all inspired by his Persian Idol: Cyrus the Great, the founder of the Acheamenid Empire. His goal was to unite all the conquered Kingdoms into a single one, where they would all life as equals in order to do so, he arranged Marriges to Persian princesses with his Generals to bound the two cultures together, much to the dismay to his Xenophobic Generals, which leads us to the next point. -His relationship with his army wasn´t all that Harmonic as the Fate seires made it out to be, while it´s true that the greater bulk of the Army and Hephaistion were very loyal to him, the interest of his generals and soldiers began to differ much from his, after Persia was conquered. Alexanders increasingly interest in Persian Culture and his insatiable desire of more conquest made many of his Macedonian and greek subjects fear and hate him, to the point, that they even tried to assassinate him. He killed all those involved in the coup to set up an example to the others. Not only this, but his growing Ego and Alchoholism has led to the death of his friend Cleithos, (who saved Alex´s life in a previous battle) during a feud with in a drinking party for giving him a task he found to be beneath him, while also saying. He that he would have never been "King of Asia" without his father Phillip's Legacy( note, that Cleithos actually deserved this for his pettiness and disgusting behaviour towards the persians, but it is to show you, that Alexander's relationships with his people was not like how they portrait it in F/Z, but then again, it's alcohol). The growing doubts and fluctuating Morale combined with Alexander forcing the tired warrios to further east despite them having enough, greatly increased the tensions between him and his Army. After the battle of Multan, instead of listening to his Generals, he tried to force them to conquer more Indian lands, which was the final straw. One General spoke to Alexander and told him that they had enough, which made him throw a Tantrum about it, but thankfully it ended with him giving up on his conquest. He retreated with his Army back to home to their families, save for those Alexander suspicted to be traitors, for they would burn in the desert, due to his Paranoia. - That however didn´t completely destroyed his desire for more conquest, as he made well-advanced plans to conquer Arabia,Carthage,Rome and everything beyond, even India.......again. That would, however never be as he did either because of a fever he got from his campaings or poisining from his people for already previously mentioned tensions that didn´t really faded away after his Conquest.(see the riot of Opis and the death of Hephaistion)We aren't sure, but we are sure he died in his new Capital: Babylon. With this i´m done, Nasu completely ignored crutial parts of Alexanders Story that would make his speech about Kingship and leadership very Hypocrital, just to have someone other than Gilgamesh being very Critical to Arthoria´s rule, despite him the whole "understanding his followers" being bullcrap for already mentioned reasons. He was more of a Military General and despot than an actual King and shouldn´t have any idea on how to rule a Kingdom(he left the ruling to others, when he would go to conquest). He is the one more deserving of getting taunted for his rule than Arthur, not the other way around. I know i will get A LOT OF HATE FOR THIS, but let me clarify that i don´t hate Fate´s portrail of Iskander at all, i find him pretty neat and badass, but personal finded his portrait in Fate zero a bit too overglorified and somewhat whitewashed on how they made him look like the role model for kingship,even if Arthoria is being better than him. here are some external links for more info on Alexander: www.ancient.eu/Alexander_the_Great/ www.biography.com/people/alexander-the-great-9180468 upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Battle_of_Issus.jpg
@adenyang4398
@adenyang4398 6 жыл бұрын
Urobuchi really likes to make punching bags out of idealistic heroes. Which can lead to interesting writing at times, but from time to time it can be wrongly done, and often end up giving a false impression of the characters and who they really are. Which Zero ended up doing, at least towards Western audiences. (ex: Zero for some odd reason produced lots of anti-Saber fans among the Western fandom).
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
The Rising Theurge I actually really appreciate this. Pretty much all these heroes do horrible stuff that the Nasuverse just glosses over. The interesting part is that most of these historical facts are compiled from many different works that stretch the truth in their own ways.
@xxChainingHeartsxx
@xxChainingHeartsxx 6 жыл бұрын
The Rising Theurge Your absolutely right the Nasuverse does (edit: typos will be the end of me) this stuff alot and it is annoying often times but keep in mind that the writers are aware of this (in the VA of FSN to later Fates works Nasu made sure to always echo the message that the word "hero" is very lose and subjective when used. Plus there's also the whole corrupted grail thing which gave reason to why villainous characters are summonable as heroes too) so my advice to you is just to consider these character interpretations as...just characters who so happen to share some similarities to their individual namesakes. Keeps me less annoyed that way.
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 6 жыл бұрын
xxChainingHeartsxx Aden YANG OtakuDaiKun thank you for your kindness and understanding for my post. I do actually think them altering some parts of the heroes tales and giving them abilities based on what they did as well as bringing forth some really good and new perspectives of said heroes is great, but with Iskander's benevolence and kindness,while actually is somewhat true, considering his respect for his conquered subject like how he honoured the tomb of Cyrus II the great (who should be in a future instalment of Fate), but someone like iskander pretending his followers had no problems with him at all(His followers we're no bit better actually and in many occasions worse like Cleithos) is for me, very bad. Despite this fate's interpretation is good enough to please me to spme extend.
@cake6851
@cake6851 6 жыл бұрын
The Rising Theurge His speech was meant to be hypocritical
@bananariff6425
@bananariff6425 6 жыл бұрын
12:05 wait, what? waver can NOT speak japanese?
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
BananaRiff Apparently not in the original novel. An authentic dub of the anime would probably have to be bilingual.
@moistmikutoy9110
@moistmikutoy9110 4 жыл бұрын
Waver is from England
@bbpele2848
@bbpele2848 4 жыл бұрын
@@otakudaikun that's easy. All we have to do is combine the original, English, and German dub. Waver and Iskandar's dialogue, along with Kayneth, Lancer, and his fiance will be in English. Saber and Iri will either be German or English (considering that her Servant is the king of Briton, and the fact that she can talk to Waver, I can assume she can speak in English), and everyone else will speak in Japanese
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 4 жыл бұрын
@@bbpele2848 Didn't know it had a german dub.
@bbpele2848
@bbpele2848 4 жыл бұрын
@@otakudaikun me neither lol
@sakshampandey7342
@sakshampandey7342 6 жыл бұрын
One fact thought, Alexander never conquered India. He had to return, after an inconclusive battle with the Indian Hindu King, Porus.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
Saksham Pandey I never said he conquered all of India.
@NOU-iw3gb
@NOU-iw3gb 5 жыл бұрын
Alexander defeated porus tho.
@gutss8608
@gutss8608 4 жыл бұрын
No one cares about your pooland
@tajup8741
@tajup8741 4 жыл бұрын
@@gutss8608 bruh, lol.
@Adhjie
@Adhjie 4 жыл бұрын
@@gutss8608 I applaud the space agency but others already said parallel of poltician opinions blindly followed ok lads other than ozymandias poems lets pack it with, I have become Death, The destroyer of world. brahmastra kundala!
@vanagandrd4877
@vanagandrd4877 6 жыл бұрын
A great man, a great conquerer, but a not-so-great ruler
@worg901
@worg901 6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this presentation.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
John Wanamaker Thank you^^
@immortalemperorwithanepicb3322
@immortalemperorwithanepicb3322 6 жыл бұрын
God you keep posting late. And I keep watching.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
It's not gonna go anywhere if you wait till the morning. I just post as close to midnight as I can since that's technically the date change.
@immortalemperorwithanepicb3322
@immortalemperorwithanepicb3322 6 жыл бұрын
OtakuDaiKun *Dedication to good content.
@sadreapercrys2790
@sadreapercrys2790 6 жыл бұрын
Ishkander, King of Bros
@fkez0510
@fkez0510 4 жыл бұрын
loved Waver and Iskandar
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 3 жыл бұрын
The first and pioneer of the cavalry charge, the Conquering Hero the Rides forth, he had kingdom at the age 20 and an Empire by 30, my namesakes,
@Xyukotsu12
@Xyukotsu12 6 жыл бұрын
Keep it up with the Lore videos I'm loving it. Big History and Fate fan. Most wonderful. Thank you.
@stevenchoza6391
@stevenchoza6391 6 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, this is one of the few times I had no issues with any of the changes they made to a historical figure in Fate. Especially since Iskander is such an awesome character, even if he's a bit hypocritical.
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 6 жыл бұрын
Steven Choza Not to me. They completely ignored the fact, that he literally forced his people to conquer india, which led the deaths of many, making him very pretentious in his speech, when he said that saber didn't lead them properly,when he is the one who would have failed the job by his own logic.
@stevenchoza6391
@stevenchoza6391 6 жыл бұрын
The Rising Theurge That is the big issue I do have with the character. Especially since the show ignores the fact that, like Saber, his realm fell apart for many of the same reasons.
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 6 жыл бұрын
Steven Choza But to be fair, he wasn't all that experienced with managing an Empire, so of course he wouldn't be super proficient,but despite this, he did have many progressive ideas and showed some potential of a good king which was destroyed by his own mortality,insanity and not being good at choosing succesors.
@stevenchoza6391
@stevenchoza6391 6 жыл бұрын
The Rising Theurge Which, as you said, means he shouldn't be the one condemning Saber for the failure of her ideals when he can be called out for the same thing.
@basilofgoodwishes4138
@basilofgoodwishes4138 6 жыл бұрын
+Steven Choza Not only that, but they also acted like as if he wasn´t really driven by ideals, when i could consider his behavior towards the Persians and Egyptians as very ideal driven and unlike Saber, he sacreficed some of his more evil members because of it like Cleithos, parmenion and the latters son, though Cleithos and the last guy deserved it, but yout get the point.
@fromeggman
@fromeggman 6 жыл бұрын
Best bro.
@brandonlim5709
@brandonlim5709 6 жыл бұрын
fromeggman the bro king
@диёрхаджибеков
@диёрхаджибеков 4 жыл бұрын
Cleitus the black doesn’t think so
@axelgarcia4188
@axelgarcia4188 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot how he is a big brother to everyone in fgo
@sonic30655
@sonic30655 6 жыл бұрын
great video I did not know that Iskandar was the reason Taiga went into teaching
@pablo1006pr
@pablo1006pr 5 жыл бұрын
Lived by his dreams, died by his dreams.
@zusfrankenstein8561
@zusfrankenstein8561 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Iskandar is great, and I love him, but he wouldn't be nearly as good of a character without Waver to bounce off of. Waver and Iskandar are easily one of the best platonic Servant-Master pairings, really only rivaled by Shishigou and Mordred or to a lesser degree Flat and Berserker Jack.
@luckysage4240
@luckysage4240 4 жыл бұрын
Gilgamesh was king because of his wealth and of his divine blood, something reflected in his Nobel phantasm Artoria was king because of the sword in the stone and her birthright, again shown in her Nobel phantasm Alexander was king because he earned the love of his people, leading them not as a martyr for his ideals or a tyrant who saw them as less, but as a man who lead by example. Both Artoria and Gilgamesh mention ruling though words, but Alexander was through action.
@lenleon3699
@lenleon3699 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Alexander was king through bloodline. He was the first son of King Phillip.
@PrimarisUltramarine
@PrimarisUltramarine 6 жыл бұрын
Oh shit!! Here we go! The king of conquerors!
@crystaliskandar1
@crystaliskandar1 6 жыл бұрын
My man, Iskander!
@MrAwsomenoob
@MrAwsomenoob 4 жыл бұрын
How can i say it, How can i tell you what it was like to be young? To dream big dreams. To believe when Alexander looked you in the eye you could do anything. In his presence, by the light of Apollo. We were better then we were. Truly i have known many great men in my life, but only one colossus. Only know in old age do i understand who this force of nature really was. Did such a man as Alexander exist? Of course not. We idolize him, make him better then he was. Men, all men. Reach and fall, reach and fall. He could have stayed home in Macedonia. Married, raised a family. He'd have died a celebrated man. But this was not Alexander, all his life he fought to free himself from fear, by this and this alone he was made free, the freest man i had ever known. His tragedy was one of increasing loneliness, and impatience with those who could not understand. And if his desire to reconcile Greek and barbarian ended in failure. What a failure!! His failure towered over other men's successes. I've lived a long life. The glory and memory of man will always belong to those who follow their great visions. The greatest of these is the one we now call... Μέγας Αλέξανδρος. The greatest of all..
@noxiouslotus5760
@noxiouslotus5760 6 жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see a Merlin lore video
@NotSoGoodDark
@NotSoGoodDark 6 жыл бұрын
YES! Finally!
@jessebarnes4389
@jessebarnes4389 Жыл бұрын
Iskandar was one of the best servants in Fate.
@rence5785
@rence5785 4 жыл бұрын
May I present my favorite servant and character, chad of chads, *ISKAAAANDAAAAR!!!!!*
@okuyasunijimura4170
@okuyasunijimura4170 5 жыл бұрын
We all need a bro like Iskander.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 5 жыл бұрын
Okuyasu Nijimura “You’ve got a bro in me~”
@xuanathan
@xuanathan 6 жыл бұрын
Iskandar, Mekkkah as a heroic spirit. He plays "Admirable Tactics" religiously.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
Xuanathan That should be an actual game lol
@hyouzanren1846
@hyouzanren1846 4 жыл бұрын
Iskandar armies VS darius Immortal armies! The movie!
@Ouchthathurt843
@Ouchthathurt843 6 жыл бұрын
Blessed video
@gundambassexe31
@gundambassexe31 6 жыл бұрын
Yay iskandar!
@jacencade4019
@jacencade4019 4 жыл бұрын
I hope we see a self actualized waiver in a future series.
@CaptainAdmiralMango
@CaptainAdmiralMango 4 жыл бұрын
King of Heroes? King of Knights? They're both respectable in their own way, but to us men, there is only one true King.. And he is the King of Conquerors! Not only can he conquer the world with his might, but with his charisma he conquer all of our hearts! Honestly my favorite Fate hero, he really is a rolemodel, someone to look up to and be an example to be followed! Seeing how Waver turned from irritated and arrogant to a loyal subject and more importantly than anything, a friend of Iskandar, was a really wholesome story to witness! I picked up FGO last year, and my first ever SSR (5* servant) I got Iskandar, he might not be the best performing Servant, but that doesn't stop me from giving him all the love he deserves! Fed him holy grails and now he's lv 100! He is my king..
@truexorcerer
@truexorcerer 5 жыл бұрын
Iskandar is my Uncle’s last name.
@jimtamim1708
@jimtamim1708 4 жыл бұрын
A big bro we all need
@PraisetheFluffyTail
@PraisetheFluffyTail 6 жыл бұрын
Best Bro!
@Ace20A
@Ace20A 6 жыл бұрын
A suggestion: Next time you do a Fate/Zero Servant lore video, maybe utilize the anime ost a bit more? Don't get me wrong. The VN ost is great and all, but I just find the anime tracks more fitting. Besides, Kajiura Yuki's works are too glorious to be left out.
@rodney2x48
@rodney2x48 5 жыл бұрын
>Iskandar tried to play match up with Waver and Taiga That is the weirdest and funniest bit about this whole thing. lol Iskandar is the best wing man.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 5 жыл бұрын
Considering how the two turned out when they got older, Taiga and Waver really aren't a match, but it's funny how Iskandar tried.
@Lemuel928
@Lemuel928 4 жыл бұрын
He made the right move,way before the Disaster Grail Calamity.
@Lemuel928
@Lemuel928 4 жыл бұрын
Why couldn’t Miss Taiga remember any of this?
@rodney2x48
@rodney2x48 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lemuel928 Taiga's a bit of a scatter brain, so it's understandable that she'd forget about this sort of thing. lol
@doorbladder5735
@doorbladder5735 5 жыл бұрын
They shall rue the day they stand against ISKANDARRRRR!!!!! I FEEL LIKE A UNICORN!!!!!
@ragecageofsneezingdragon4916
@ragecageofsneezingdragon4916 6 жыл бұрын
Iskandar: The greatest wingman.
@Arthur-mz9kb
@Arthur-mz9kb 5 жыл бұрын
My man zeus did it again
@dank_smirk2ndchannel200
@dank_smirk2ndchannel200 5 жыл бұрын
Boi looks like Ganondorf
@gudakoalter
@gudakoalter 5 жыл бұрын
Iskandar is the best king, bro and a wingman?
@omkarshirgaonkar9800
@omkarshirgaonkar9800 6 жыл бұрын
So Hold on Iskandar is the reason Tiga became a teacher.
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 6 жыл бұрын
omkar shirgaonkar Yes.
@Lemuel928
@Lemuel928 4 жыл бұрын
Basically.
@yaboigamerdouji7573
@yaboigamerdouji7573 3 жыл бұрын
Always remember, his birthday is July 21st
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