I actually think the dad was really brave to let his son choose to end treatment. That would be difficult for any parent, but he trusted his child.
@SuperArystoteles Жыл бұрын
Thats what kids deserve. Trust.
@Miniburn_04 Жыл бұрын
The father's clearly abusive and the child should be removed from his Karen this case the kid has to undergo chemo to survive even if he doesn't want to that's what parents have to do sometimes forced their kids to do things that they don't want to do
@SuperArystoteles Жыл бұрын
@@Miniburn_04 Its not your decision to make. Its just a film.
@Miniburn_04 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperArystoteles I know but even if this was real life I would force the father to give his child chemo drugs at the doctor said it was necessary you shouldn't stop a child's treatment just because they're in pain
@tynugget2072 Жыл бұрын
@@Miniburn_04if your child say their done then their done
@Earth2Natalie Жыл бұрын
Dr. Manning always puts her emotions first. Heartbreaking as it is, it was the kid's decision.
@yucol5661 Жыл бұрын
Honestly that’s her whole character’s deal. She makes dumb choices around children meant to anger the audience against her and keep them emotionally invested
@MsLovestory01 Жыл бұрын
It was April who pushed for DCFS to be involved here.
@mrbrickhistory Жыл бұрын
@@MsLovestory01Absolutely! Dr. Manning had nothing to do here. She was actually going to follow with his dad and even tried to DEFEND him at the end. It was mostly April's fault for this.
@KSMaxiefan01 Жыл бұрын
Actually this is one of Dr. Manning’s finer moments it was actually April that step over the line and made her call DCFS. Had April waited for the MRI this could have all be avoided
@bananacathammock Жыл бұрын
@@yucol5661 backfire. a lot of us stopped watching the show because we can't stand her. and her being the main character does not help.
@jennstewart3003 Жыл бұрын
As a kid with chronic illness, he can absolutely decide his fate. He can understand what death is.
@feraltaco4783 Жыл бұрын
Kids always seem to have a better understanding and grip on death than most adults.
@foolishmortal6590 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I imagine a child who has been through a long slog with cancer may well understand it better than the adults do.
@waves23788 ай бұрын
It’s really sad to see kids getting cancer at a young age, and never being able to recover from it. They were just born to die.
@AnythingLounge6 күн бұрын
@@feraltaco4783 no they don't 💀 people who say this clearly don't know how the brain develops
@feraltaco47835 күн бұрын
@@AnythingLounge okay.
@AmelityshTV Жыл бұрын
I'd understand the doctor's point of view if it weren't the kids 4th try on chemo. 4 times is enough to be done with
@catmaxwell6691 Жыл бұрын
“Meddling do-gooder” is her character description;)
@AmelityshTV Жыл бұрын
@@catmaxwell6691 Cool
@mrbrickhistory Жыл бұрын
@@catmaxwell6691wrong and right. I think mostly April's fault for calling CDSF or whatever it is.
@juliamclane8319 Жыл бұрын
@@mrbrickhistoryIt is called DCSF
@catmaxwell6691 Жыл бұрын
@@mrbrickhistory no, only right:) it’s just the way this character is written, and her choices are made simply to advance the plot.
@alicemarshall0823 Жыл бұрын
Wow. The "everyone has there time to live, ive had mine, now i wanna see whats next" line from the kid was astonishing and wise and showed that he really did understand the reality of his tough decision. Not many kids how that kind of insite
@Diamond-jk7ob Жыл бұрын
I think that the best line
@danieldevito6380 Жыл бұрын
You realize that it was a line from a script that was written by an adult, right?
@louiscyphre2267 Жыл бұрын
@danieldevito6380 the kid delivered it well.
@SkyMika.8 ай бұрын
@@danieldevito6380You think real kids with cancer don’t understand that when they too give up fighting.
@AnythingLounge6 күн бұрын
@@SkyMika. No because they're not mentally mature fully I thought this was common knowledge but obviously not because all of you supposed adults in this comment section don't even know kids aren't able to grasp the severity of the situation
@amberf6275 Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for the Dad in this. The kid too, but like. His kid's mom died, now his kid is dying, and the way the staff went about forcing this... just awful.
@sideshowkazstuff3867 Жыл бұрын
After seeing people with PTSD after one round of chemo as kids when they say no it’s probably time to stop.
@juliestiff9372 Жыл бұрын
Exactly and really the dads decision honestly
@juliestiff9372 Жыл бұрын
Legally it is
@ausur57 Жыл бұрын
@@juliestiff9372 w
@karyannfontaine8757 Жыл бұрын
As a Lymphoma stage 4 survivor, I know there comes a time when the disease takes so much out of the patient by pain and exhaustion they decide to have palliative care only.
@destinyroberts3742 Жыл бұрын
Thank god your here today bless ur soul hope u have a great future up ahead
@Americanpatriot-zo2tk Жыл бұрын
Amen. By the way, I am very very happy that you’re better. I’m a registered nurse and it amazes me that tenacity cancer survivors have much respect, And God bless.
@jessyvalentine7492 Жыл бұрын
Lost my leg to bone cancer as a child, these kids do know their own strength and what they want to keep trying or not trying. I had to choose to have my leg amputated at 12years old, brain developed or not. Only person that can choose to fight is the one with skin in the game.
@jessyvalentine7492 Жыл бұрын
But its also completely unrealistic that the er physicians are treating this themselves. Its above their paygrade.
@jadedbrad Жыл бұрын
When I was 12 my dog Cocoa died. I asked God to take me instead. Some kids shouldn't be making decisions.
@jessyvalentine7492 Жыл бұрын
@@jadedbrad Cocoa deserved better 😭
@ThePickledsoul Жыл бұрын
@@jadedbrad I asked that a year ago when trouble (my cat) had cancer. It's just humanity, not immaturity; I was 29.
@qveenora3 Жыл бұрын
@@jadedbradit’s their body tho
@UwU-sn7jt Жыл бұрын
unless you have been through these treatments, you have no right to say who or who not gets to stop fighting. not everyone is built for war.
@NH-tb2sm Жыл бұрын
The child was built for war and fought 4 wars, but that's enough. Nobody should have to go through it over and over again.
@emilyrobinson6080 Жыл бұрын
It happens a lot in real life but its nice to see something similar on tv programs. Doctors cab get tunnel vision sometimes, with the training and admonition to fight to keep someone alive as hard as possible, and loose sight of the fact that, paradoxically, sometimes a patient choosing to go out on their own terms is actually the path of lesser harm. Yes someone might have a pulse at the end of the day but if their quality of life is so torturous that they would rather choose death, essentially demanding that a patient fight for as ling as they can is the greater of the two evils.
@bugatti599gtr8 ай бұрын
I disagree. Everyone is built for war. That's what humans are. We are built for survival. You telling me that if we are lost in the jungle trying to survive, some people would rather kill themselves than fight for survival. Everyone is built for that. It just depends on how long you can last.
@fifilindman8 ай бұрын
@@bugatti599gtr when you are lost in the jungle you don’t have to watch the effect your deterioration has on your family as they are powerless to help watch your children traumatised as they watch you suffer. Death is not the worst thing that can happen to a person sometimes people choose death out of love for those that they love.
@bharathiramesh58786 ай бұрын
Yes...not everyone is built fr war..i agree totally
@wiltyner101 Жыл бұрын
Kids are smarter than people think!!! The poor kid has suffered enough!!! He deserves to make his own decisions!!!!
@renee_3364 Жыл бұрын
The title of this video is so disrespectful. This has nothing to do with the kid being “unwilling to fight”. We need to stop with that false battle narrative around cancer. Sometimes knowing when to stop curative treatment and start palliative care is the bravest and wisest thing a patient and their doctor can do. Happy to see so many people in the comments realise this.
@JM-zk9ou5 ай бұрын
Absolutely. The notion of preserving life regardless of the misery treatment causes has to end.
@Tay-cg1pt Жыл бұрын
The worst part is the father probably didn’t give in to his kids wishes right away. I’m sure he had to take time to think critically about this and discuss with his son the implications of that choice, not to mention having to deal emotionally with the idea of watching your son pass away. Who knows how long it took him to get to this place and now he’s in handcuffs.
@kylosnow Жыл бұрын
The dad did admit he forced the kid to go through with the last treatment then agreed to let the kid decide if they would keep it going
@raegenarmer23516 ай бұрын
^^^ he said that the boy begged him all through the last round to stop but he wouldn’t
@Goldies86 Жыл бұрын
Many years ago my family knew a little girl who dealt with a heart condition her whole life. They tried everything. By age 10 or 11, she had had enough-- told her parents no more surgeries or treatments of any kind. Her parents RESPECTED her wishes because they knew she was mentally tapped out and ready to go to heaven. She died shortly after, and obviously it was tragic, but there was a huge peace because she wasn't suffering anymore.
@MetalForTheWin92110 ай бұрын
Poor girl. Especially because her parents tricked her into thinking heaven is real. Pretty sure she would've chosen to live otherwise.
@deborahhildebrandt44348 ай бұрын
Heaven is real. There was once an atheist that was dying. He declared that if there is a God snd heaven.. that snakes would crawl from his grave. Post burial. His plot became a huge snake den@MetalForTheWin921
@el.brookes4 ай бұрын
@@MetalForTheWin921wow how could you be so horrible? Disgusting. Coming from an atheist myself.
@MetalForTheWin9214 ай бұрын
@@el.brookes Why is it horrible to say? I'm not saying it to the parent's face. There's no victim here. That's my opinion. Obviously if she's been brainwashed into thinking that heaven is real, she's not going to fight to live as hard. Did her parents "trick her" in the sense that it was done maliciously? Almost surely not. They're victims too. But they're to blame for teaching her what to think instead of how to think. You're sure doing a lot of pearl clutching for an atheist.
@el.brookes4 ай бұрын
@@MetalForTheWin921 idk man when there is a little girl who’s died I put my beliefs and opinions aside. It’s called basic human empathy…
@patchworkangel02109 ай бұрын
dr. manning and her "i am a mom, clearly i know everything and am better than every other parent out there" logic is so exhausting.
@raegenarmer2351 Жыл бұрын
The bravest thing a parent can do is to know when you’re no longer helping your child but hurting them. This father could see his son was done being in pain every day that’s not living.
@KevinMcLaughlin-r6o2 ай бұрын
"Whatever happens, it was worth it." The father didn't care what happened to him as long as his son was gonna be OK, real father right there.
@auroralebovits1436 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how much the father must love him to let him go so he won’t be in pain
@garden_goth7140 Жыл бұрын
he has every right to decide what he wants no matter how old he is. he knows what he can handle better than anyone else, and his father is incredible for supporting his decision no matter how painful it was
@Americanpatriot-zo2tk Жыл бұрын
Five minutes and 10 seconds, that little boy understand life and death better than that grown woman who is a medical doctor like he said everyone has his time everyone without exception.
@aynose Жыл бұрын
It is really awful when other people decide what you should do with your life and your own body.
@sheltiesong Жыл бұрын
We would all do well to remember that there’s a difference between prolonging life and postponing death…
@patrioticjustice9040 Жыл бұрын
The problem with being a doctor and allowing your emotions to rule you is you think that you're thinking of others, but you're not. For a child to go through that over and over again, it would have been torture, and cruelty at it's finest; to endure all that pain for nothing. She's not thinking of how that bow must have begged his father to stop the trials and how it is killing his father inside to see his only family dying in front of him.
@mememe5196 Жыл бұрын
The doc needs to realize her boundaries and that people can understand and make their own decisions!! Just waiting for an episode when she goes through a huge trauma and see what she chooses!
@TheScarletLadle Жыл бұрын
I knew someone in high school who was battling cancer through his whole childhood. He was always missing school and in pain. I dont know how many time he went into remission, but it never lasted long. It sucked. He'd grow out his hair, only to have it fall out again...
@samg8739 ай бұрын
Omg
@tiffanymonique7098 Жыл бұрын
It seems like this that upset me so much as a parent because doctors nurses and people in the hospital always assume the worst they assume because this young man decisions were respected his father was weak opposed to understanding that maybe his father had just gotten strong enough to listen to what his son wanted and his weakest moments how about that
@Drowned-Hubris11 ай бұрын
The way she acted like this kid on chemo of all things didn’t even know how death works infuriated me 😭
@mich7864 Жыл бұрын
There was a video I saw recently that was a terminally ill person addressing a comment about them going into hospice/end of life care that was asking them to not give up. They said that entering hospice was not "giving up" it was the end of the line. Their body didn't have anything left to fight with and they had run out of treatment options. Dying is not giving up, its giving in when there's no way left forward.
@kriscolwell9935 Жыл бұрын
Hospice would be the best thing for this kid in a real-world situation.
@v1v1d1ty Жыл бұрын
that kid is an amazing actor! i hope he goes places in life because his performance has me bawling like a little baby.
@Autumn_winds28286 ай бұрын
The father is played by my brother, his name is Cameron Knight. I love his work on this episode so much!!
@iwtbrnk4 ай бұрын
sure🤡
@nenasbirds Жыл бұрын
This is so sad for the boy and the father. He loves his son so much!
@Chatterbox-94 Жыл бұрын
Every patient has their limits. The pain. The suffering. The countless hospitalizations. More than a dozen or more meds is literally suffocating. And some people reach a point where they would rather die peacefully then keep fighting an exhausting painful battle.
@artchic5287 ай бұрын
That boy was very well spoken and wise for his age. He understood his situation completely and just wanted to be free from the pain and suffering. He wanted to spend what time he had not suffering so he could enjoy it. I admire him.
@aaliyahrandom Жыл бұрын
Can we talk about the actor who plays the dad’s voice? DAYUM.
@redlupo6193 Жыл бұрын
Whoever he is, this man would be a marvelous voice artist. Audiobook companies, you NEED his deep, magnificent, cultured tones!
@h.s.626910 ай бұрын
Agreed, he has such a pleasant and heartfelt voice!
@artchic5287 ай бұрын
His voice felt deep and velvety, like a comfy old leather chair you could just sink yourself into and fall asleep in.
@TheMilitantHorse Жыл бұрын
I dunno if I'd be as relieved as that dad was. Still could possibly lose his son, as it's not confirmed he's actually getting better, now on top of a huge medical bill, he has court fees, and will probably never see his son again. If I were him, the hospital would be in for a lawsuit for millions. Before everyone says it I know it's a TV show.
@tiastrickland7736 Жыл бұрын
That nurse should have minded her business! It wasn’t her call
@giannawest73748 ай бұрын
he is a child
@seanhyousuke3 ай бұрын
@@giannawest7374 Ma'am, a child can make the decision just as much as an adult can if the conditions are very severe.
@Kelso1796 Жыл бұрын
The kid made a clear conscious decision. Just because he’s 8 doesn’t mean he can’t decide it’s time for palliative care.
@brennathecatlover43606 ай бұрын
Like I’m sure he’s old enough to tell his dad hey I’m feeling blah blah with my body
@wasabi_honey Жыл бұрын
Forcing someone to continue treatment when it really won’t make a difference is terrible. He knows his outcome.
@xXSakuraTearsXx Жыл бұрын
When a Father says his child _“does understand,”_ that means his child _“does understand.”_
@tamaracalderon6080 Жыл бұрын
Putting children thru chemo over and over is the abuse. 😢
@ascheparker2340 Жыл бұрын
Especially when they don’t want it
@cristalmewtwo4160 Жыл бұрын
And especially when it's so many tries that haven't worked
@rachaelford5525 Жыл бұрын
I had a friend give up at 15. It wasnt working and hed had enough and chose no more treatment. I know this kid is 8 but after that many times i think he understands enough
@dannie4528 Жыл бұрын
If they were so concerned with his ability to make this choice why didn't they get a psychiatrist refferal. And April saying "I don't care" should've been a clear indication that she was letting her emotions and desires get in the way.
@breadfanornofan1148 Жыл бұрын
I get the hate for manning on this, but can we talk about how April forced mannings hand with DCFS? If I found out that they had that discussion as the father I’d have sued them into oblivion. Especially saying I don’t care about what the MRI says. Aprils always a jackass.
@samg8739 ай бұрын
Never liked April. She gives bad vibes even without talking
@ShadeKoopa Жыл бұрын
If the kid wants to give up, let him. It's been 4 tries. It's time to give up.
@iangoldfish4829 Жыл бұрын
The whole mantra or whatever if being a doctor is you advocate for the patient. You find balance between what they want and what they need. The kid has been through this 4 times, and his body had absolutely degraded each and every time, it’s not about surviving anymore, it’s about quality of life, and that kid deserves to be pain free the rest of the time he has with his dad.
@mimi2the4 Жыл бұрын
April and Manning both would have been fired before the end of their first episode irl
@iwtbrnk4 ай бұрын
rightfully so. same wih halestead and the psych dude
@parkerthompson3447 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Manning always lets her emotions get the better of her
@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer10 ай бұрын
In real life she would be a doctor with the best bedside manner, but she would be constantly crossing boundaries that shouldn't be crossed and potentially causing lawsuits
@cheetavontiebolt9971 Жыл бұрын
Good to see dad respecting his son wishes hope Gabe gets better
@MiracleFound Жыл бұрын
An 8 year old knows that it isn't working and that he doesn't want to go through it anymore. There are things worse than death.
@swolfe9668 Жыл бұрын
Until you've been through a medical crisis of your own, doctors should just step back and accept when it's time to check out
@happycatlady20124 ай бұрын
That doctor was finally understanding and then that nurse comes in wrecking everything
@sebastianhunt91824 ай бұрын
"Whatever happens, it was worth it." Holy moly. The sacrifices this dad is willing to make for his son. I'm speechless.
@alrqmcr Жыл бұрын
As long as the patient’s and his/her guardian fully understands the consequences of their actions if they opt out of treatment, it’s still their choice.
@Letha-Mae Жыл бұрын
April acting like she knows more than the doctor..
@nomirusso203 ай бұрын
When I was about seven, we had relatives with four children. One them who was a year older than me had leukemia. She had already lost all of her hair. She confided in me that she hated being sick all of the time. Sometime later, my mom told me she had died. She had told her parents she just couldn’t do it anymore and wanted to stop the treatments. As hard as it was for them, they honored her wish. She was so young but she knew what she wanted. ❤️
@PlatinumX09 ай бұрын
That father is a dad and that dad is a real man! We need more fathers dads and men like this
@briagg4901 Жыл бұрын
The fathers voice is super deep
@charrissejohnson5657 Жыл бұрын
The child understands pain and suffering.
@Alyssa-go9ws Жыл бұрын
The nurse saying "I don't care" and pushing the doctor like that.. it really scared me as a patient. The fact she just wants to follow protocol without really understanding the kid and the dad is terrible. I get it's a tough call and she just wants to save her patient, but please respect the parents and the devastating situation.
@SnowBees Жыл бұрын
Have they never heard of pediatric hospice care?
@louiscyphre2267 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought that they’re taking the kid to the ER for extra drama and move the plot along?
@ThatWeirdo049 ай бұрын
In order to enter hospice care, you have to have two doctors independently sign off that you have 6 months or fewer to live. You can't just put yourself in hospice.
@syrusangi87432 ай бұрын
So the boy will recover but won't have his dad there to look after him while doing so? Way to go, doc
@booksrbetterthanpeople9621 Жыл бұрын
I am amazed one of Manning’s patients hasn’t sued her yet… Have they? I haven’t watched the show in a bit
@Trey-u6n Жыл бұрын
U know the sad part is that child never got to grow up and yes ik it's a show but I feels so real
@ascheparker2340 Жыл бұрын
It feels real because it is. It happens to kids and adults every day
@greenbeantm1096 Жыл бұрын
2:28 yea as someone who had to learn about the concept of death at two, a typical 8 year old can most definitely understand the permanency of the concept of death.
@MV-ew6ty Жыл бұрын
😭wow! What a performance. By the dad and the boy. And the Dr too when she yelled commanding they listen.
@foolslayer9416 Жыл бұрын
Why is it that the last video where Manning dealt with a child cancer patient, she was concerned with letting her emotions get in the way? You'd think she learned something from that.
@rayraymarie18217 ай бұрын
Ohhhh this episode makes me mad.... good job to the dad! I've lived this. This sucks.
@PARIS-ARCANA Жыл бұрын
The thing about kids 'not understanding' is because many parents dont try to explain it in a way kids can understand it or even bother to explain it because they are to supposedly too young. Especially if a child has cancer, you shouldnt really try to hide what he has and might go through, i mean the child is in pain and wants it to stop, and i doubt any parents wouldnt try to explain to them they would die if they stopped.
@goldenshoelaces10 ай бұрын
As a parent, this is so very difficult. We dont want to see our children in pain, but we also trust them to know how much they can handle. What a tough choice, horrible outcome, but one of relief for the young soul that suffered so much.
@honeybee2587 Жыл бұрын
As some who watched countless family members and friends die of cancer. I understand completely that this kid doesn't want anymore treatment. He doesn't want to go through anymore pain and sickness. Chemo is nothing but a poison anyway. He and his dad deserve to decide what treatments he gets and what treatments he does want. This nurse is the worst kind of person and shouldn't be in medicine period. This kid deserves to die with what dignity he has left. He is right everyone has their chance to live and everyone has their chance to die. Kids understand a lot of things that most adults don't. And see things that most adults miss. Even the Bible says; "For everything there is a season. A time to live and a time to die." For goodness sake let this kid leave life on his terms and with his dignity.
@cassandradevine68997 ай бұрын
The Dad has a charming voice
@sickemboy9352 Жыл бұрын
Dr.Manning constantly acts against her patient's request when she disagrees with their rational. Rule one is "do no harm" in medicine and she fails, lots of malpractice lawsuits in real life and probable suspensions would result. Dont act against your patient's requests or their power of attorney.
@HulklingsBoyfriend Жыл бұрын
She literally sided with the father and son here, did you even watch the clip? She and they were absolutely right.
@sickemboy9352 Жыл бұрын
@HulklingsBoyfriend Initially she did not accept it and her character throughout episodes has this similar preventable tendency.
@Leah-ii6hd Жыл бұрын
This is so sad, yet amazing!!
@realteamwall Жыл бұрын
hes a smart kid its sad to see him giving up
@qveenora3 Жыл бұрын
chemo and cancer is no joke you wouldn’t understand why people wanna give up so bad until you in their shoes
@Mariamunro957 ай бұрын
First of all he's not giving up. He's smart enough to realise when the tools just aren't working. Shame his doctors were too self-absorbed to see it.
@POPSAHH6 ай бұрын
i never ever teared up at a video before but when that kid said "i want to see whats next" actually made me tear up
@benfuhs78517 ай бұрын
In no world would that father EVER get arrested for that. Absolute bs.
@brennathecatlover43606 ай бұрын
Isn’t withholding medical care illegal tho? Since he withheld the medicine
@FlawedNicely7 ай бұрын
Wow this was so awful, he was a great Father & and he saved his son from his impending doom just to be arrested..
@PeggyS_76096 ай бұрын
This is exactly my probem. If this were a pet, we wouldn't hesitate to allow to die or euthanize. This poor child has been thru he'll and more than understands what he's doing. Why can't we show the same empathy to each other that we show our pets.
@krystalk8105 Жыл бұрын
They were out of line smh
@sonovabyss Жыл бұрын
Y'all, I actually watched this episode and it infuriated me so much. Sorry to give spoilers but at the end, April apologized to Dr. Manning about it and blamed her pregnancy emotions on it. Nah, you owe the father an apology. I know this is just a show but jeez
@BeAMan11510 ай бұрын
April always got her way, no matter how selfish or how many times she had to blackmail someone… and it never went wrong enough for her to reconsider. That kid knew EXACTLY what was happening, but April couldnt get past herself to see it.
@WondaGal10006 ай бұрын
I study developmental psychology which is literally about how we learn and grow across our lifespan. One of the things we do when we do research studies with kids is we get their assent. Not only do you have to get the parents' consent, but the child has to assent. And I know it's different here since it's medical, but still. If a child has that level of understanding of what's going on, there needs to be a legit conversation about what should be done.
@dietotaku Жыл бұрын
it's ridiculous that they would go ahead and arrest him for medical neglect when (a) it was the child's choice to refuse treatment, dad wasn't neglecting him at all and (b) not taking the chemo actually made him BETTER. medical neglect is more like my MIL's first oncologist who postponed her PET scans until she lost consciousness in her bathroom and had to have a bone marrow transplant.
@YW23248 ай бұрын
Ya why did he get arrested to begin with? I'm so confused. Because the kid said he didn't want the treatment anymore?
@1tommyday6 ай бұрын
I cant imagine a doctor speaking to a parent like she did
@AusdonMiles Жыл бұрын
imo, someone old enough to know they're dying knows more than someone who isn't
@NH-tb2sm Жыл бұрын
Did they end up forcing him to go through chemo again or were they able to convince child services that the chemo isn't needed and get the father released?
@sonovabyss Жыл бұрын
The Aunt ended up caring for the kid and was going to try to get the charges on the Father dropped.
@furbiburdicreations413 Жыл бұрын
Manning listened to the kid for once, it was that other doctor that was way out of line.
@redlupo6193 Жыл бұрын
Nurse, not MD
@grizzly6018 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the patient and his family, after 4 futile tries of chemo its obvious this cancer didnt come to lose that battle and all you're doing is making this kid's final days unnecessarily excruciating
@FullTimePatient3711 ай бұрын
Ok 5:07 i don't want THAT? Gape and his father didn't ask for your opinion Natalie..
@bridgetgress Жыл бұрын
This is unethical of the medical staff. It is perfectly reasonable to allow a terminally ill patient to choose comfort over the torture of chemo. Plenty of older people with cancer make that choice. It's not child abuse unless the dad was deliberately trying to kill the child, which he obviously wasn't. The child should be put on hospice care and his life should be lived out to the fullest while he still can.
@jadaharris7655 Жыл бұрын
Tbh i dont actually think its Mannings fault this time April literally forced her hand in this
@sophieirwin3497 Жыл бұрын
I did my PhD at a children’s hospital in the UK. There was a weekly lecture series and one talk was on consent and assent. In the UK, consent is 16. So the speaker challenged the black and white of consent. A 15 year old, one day shy of their 16th birthday could have their wishes overruled by a parent/guardian, but a day later suddenly they’re adult enough to consent? Then comes more grey area; what if the 16 year old had learning or other mental difficulties that made them more immature? Would the age of consent still apply? The other side is children going through medical procedures. They can assent to proceed or not proceed. A good parent would agree with the assent, if they knew the child understood the meaning of their decision. And this can be as small a procedure as a blood test to chemotherapy. Any good doctor or nurse would take the child’s opinion into account, even children as young as 8. There are parents, and in this case doctors, who disregard children’s wishes because they think they know best and to save the child despite history of treatment not working and the child suffering more because of it.
@Mariamunro957 ай бұрын
I was a patient at GOSH for over ten years. My doctors would deliver the same news to me they would to my mom ever since I was old enough to speak, even if they had to dumb it down. The conversation always went like, "This is what's wrong, this is what we'd like to do because. If we do this, there's a good chance the results would be X but they can also be Y. How do you feel about that? Do you wanna talk about it? Do you have any questions?" Sometimes they'd have someone sit with me for hours to make sure I got it and even though my mother had to sign and it was ultimately her decision they made damn sure I had a chance to voice my opinion on the matter. And I was in ophthalmology, not even life threatening. I freakin' loved my team. Heroes to the last.
@sophieirwin34977 ай бұрын
@@Mariamunro95 I did my PhD at Alder Hey children’s hospital in Liverpool. Same manner. There’s something about paediatricians that respect that a child is still a human with a voice and opinions and want to know what’s going on
@sunnimastewin6032 Жыл бұрын
They didn't know anything about that childs treatments and what he went thru because treatment doesn't always effect everyone the same. And they kind of made it seem like he didn't even try at all just because they didn't see it. Calling CPS and having him arrested was too much. Considering chemo doesn't always work you could just be poisoning yourself until the end. Not always but the person who is receiving it should have atleast some say in it.
@emilymoore4841 Жыл бұрын
its not fair at any age to suffer that way, an 8 year old should be an 8 year old. He didnt want to be stuck that way anymore 🕊️🕊️
@xmayoburkex7 ай бұрын
Doctors make a vow to not harm. For a child to go through agonizing pain and having to constantly face death over & over again after they requested to be let go is agony. It doesn’t matter their age you can’t force someone to live a painful life.
@georgetourloukis7194 Жыл бұрын
This 8 year old is as done with life as most gen-z
@gordanazakula5669 Жыл бұрын
Awesome episode, with an ironic ending!!! Stopping chemo saved the childs life!!!
@PaulodeMelo Жыл бұрын
Haiya I'm back to House. These kid doctors are turning the medical show into a drama.
@KarenLee-bs5ms8 ай бұрын
This is sad all the way around this sucks..then dad is going to be accused of child abuse..that kid knows what he Wants.. he does knows what death is..
@cunningsmile41668 ай бұрын
They should change it to Hypocritic Oath. Because that's what Doctor's are in these situations.