Fatherland 1994 HQ

Fictional historical account of what might have happened if Adolf Hitler had won the Second World War. Germany has corralled all European countries into a single state called Germania, and continues fighting against the Soviet Union. It is now 1964 and Germany's war crimes against the Jews have so far been kept a secret. Germany believes that an alliance with the United States would finally beat the Soviet war machine. As his 75th birthday approaches, Hitler wants to talk peace with President Joseph Kennedy. An SS homicide detective and an American journalist stumble into a plot to destroy all evidence of the genocide; evidence that could destroy the peace process with America and evidence that Nazi and SS leaders will stop at nothing to keep hidden.
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[@fifervonpiper6707]

This movie is a thousand times more realistic than Man in the High Castle. Though the ending was... eh... it still shows a more plausible timeline rather than the Nazis somehow capturing all of the Americas and somehow colonizing the moon.

[@ilcanalediwilly]

The thesis of the Japanese German invasion of America is bullshit

[@pipipupu5104]

Lmao nazi Germany was indeed advanced and powerfull but colonising moon and stuff 😂😂😂Lmao peak American redneck thinking

[@MrCB555]

I haven't seen all of Man in the High Castle, but I thought the idea of an "alternate universe" was a bit too sci-fi-ish for me.

[@TowGunner]

The ending was ridiculous. Joe Kennedy was a flagrant antisemite. He would have shipped Jews out of the US to Germany.

[@joeyj6808]

You mean "Iron Sky" wasn't a documentary???

[@nathanfugate8210]

Jean Marsh smiling, waving her hand, and saying "we reaettled them in the air", and "tuned them into smoke" is one of the most chilling moments in movie history.

[@ancupola1994]

Superb acting and it must have been very hard to undertake such an acting role given the content

[@djpalindrome]

The wig made her look ridiculous and her overacting didn’t help either

[@chrisbartrum3201]

If this could have captured even the briefest glimpse of the author's brilliance it would be up there with the greatest films.

[@darthnowlan]

The film is better then the book.

[@natebit8130]

@@darthnowlan in what way? What can you tell me about the book?

[@darthnowlan]

@@natebit8130 What I read about the book online. The film ending is better.

[@gspendlove]

I'm reading the book right now; found the paperback at a thrift store. I remembered seeing this movie on HBO when it premiered, but I didn't remember all that much about it. The book is always better because the movie can't put in everything; it would have to be ten hours long!

[@natebit8130]

@@darthnowlan Thanks. I'll try to find it and give it a read.

[@padmac8176]

People are nitpicking way too much into this film!! It was a simple"what if" fiction story. It was not made with a Hollywood blockbuster budget nor did it have to focus on every little aspect of WW2, and 9 times out of 10 movies don't follow their original book counterparts from which they are based down to the last letter. That would take forever, that is why movies are EDITED. Stop getting bogged down in technicalities and enjoy the film! By the way the addition of the Nazi Triumphal Arch and the Albert Speer dome to Berlin were very well done. For tv movie production this was certainly not bad. Plus with great actors like Rutger Hauer and Peter Vaughan, it was extra enjoyable! So there!

[@MacJaxonManOfAction]

Some people are never happy. Yes, it has it's faults, so do most of my favourite films. And my favourite people too!

[@pauloneill2538]

Well I finally got to see this movie 25 years after its release. RIP Rutger Hauer

[@stephenplatt5629]

Think yourself lucky .I saw it 25 years before they made it

[@danielanderson3286]

Please read the book it’s brilliant

[@DannyBoy777777]

@@danielanderson3286 yes it is, and film isn't faithful to it in a fundamental way

[@DavidWilliams-qm6hp]

I saw it on HBO.

[@stephenroney3630]

@@DannyBoy777777 In the book, which I read before the film, she smuggled the dossier into Switzerland, whilst the SS officer managed to get to Auschwitz in Poland which was just a lot of stone foundations to be shot simultaneously, by I think, 4 gunmen.

[@od1ist]

I don't know why so many are knocking this. It's fiction! Thank you for taking the time to upload! Peace

[@l337pwnage]

It's propaganda meant to reinforce lies about WWII.

[@l337pwnage]

Lucy's Mom that comment in no way refutes my point.

[@lawsonj39]

@@l337pwnage What lies?

[@beaugeste2899]

Oh, you mean like denying the Holocaust happened? Besides being stupid for not paying attention to literally tons of evidence, the only other motivations are pretty bloody dark. Spreading such lies are truly closer to the real meaning of “ propaganda” and those that defend fascism are a danger to all.

[@derycktrahair8108]

Yes, it's FICTION, a "what if" that can even make you ask if real history is ok. The book was better (as usual) but it's NOT propaganda, in fact it sends it up. This movie doesn't capture the book (characters are not as we thought of them). Let's read it again & see how it works. A confusing movie, but thanks for giving us a medium of comparison.

[@omathitis8498]

Even Germany winning WW2 can't stop Die Beatles from conquering the world. 👏

[@slypear]

Wait now....the British band or the VW product?

[@BroonParker]

Pretty unconvincing detail. Rock and roll would have been seen as degenerate art from the USA but was always central to the Beatles. And hair that long?? Just a desperate attempt to say early 1960s

[@ingvarhallstrom2306]

​@@BroonParker In the book the parallell universe Germany had another music culture after the second world war, but the Beatle mania thing was used by the Nazis as a way of reaching out to the west. Re: Glasnost for the Russians in the 80's.

[@BroonParker]

@ingvarhallstrom2306 I had forgotten that - read it several years ago. Not sure it's convincing even so, but thanks for the info. Maybe I'll get around to reading it again.

[@petertorvik8413]

But did they still record "So you say you want a revolution?"

[@douglasmilton2805]

Who else thinks this film would have been so much better if Rutger Hauer had suddenly said to Michael Kitchen..."Are we the baddies?"

[@ajwilliamson82]

"Are we the baddies?" should have been the title of the movie

[@Ozgipsy]

😂😂

[@briangraysonesq.4955]

Nice reference

[@gbonkers666]

But skulls? Why skulls?

[@lichtbringer2289]

He should have said: "Pirates are fun!"

[@xyshomavazax]

Thank you for uploading this. I haven’t seen it since it was released, but always maintained it as one of my favorite movies. Having watched it just now, I’m glad to see how it has held up.

[@jean6872]

In what way? Can you give some examples of why it is one of your favorite movies, I wonder.

[@keithnaylor1981]

Gripping engrossing drama as the Gestapo tries to keep Nazi WWII atrocities hidden. Nail-biting finish. Best film I’ve seen in a long time.

[@IronPiedmont]

For a television movie, it really has some great production quality.

[@Yodelinthegully-d7r]

@James Williams Way over your head...

[@tuckedup]

@@Yodelinthegully-d7r what has james williams got to do with it ?

[@riccardomezzi9177]

Funny thing is that when they start talking about jews, showing people marching in the snow, they actually aren't them. They are the Italians, Germans, Hungarians and Romanians captured by the soviets after the fall of Stalingrad.

[@eragonshurtugal4239]

@ARMED DEFENSE no but that you could have chossen so much actualy fottage of the horrors of the holocoust but choose to show the horror inflicted by the one of the socalled good guys

[@eragonshurtugal4239]

@ARMED DEFENSE you asced riccardo what his point was and if he his a holocaust denier i pointed out why that doenst had to be the case

[@zampieritto]

Poor the Jewish. Pity for the Jewish. A very very suffering people.

[@pyry1948]

@ARMED DEFENSE "oy vey"

[@antonyd6649]

celtic shaman 365mhz Research? You mean you watched “The Greatest Story Never Told” and “Zeitgeist” and assumed it was all true?

[@zenoturchetti322]

This movie doesn't follow the book, it's so heartbreaking. If you have only watched the movie, please read the book it is so much better

[@kasnilistopadski]

It always is, no ?

[@johnmarcucci1719]

The scenes where March is with his son, teaching him to say grace at breakfast instead of reciting the Hitler youth oath, and later when his son was repeating propaganda about how handicapped kids would be better off dead, and March told him the story about the clockmaker, were very moving and poingnant. And John Shrapnels portrayal of Globus was chilling.

[@longiusaescius2537]

Lmao yeah Hitler banned saying grace at dinner

[@johnmarcucci1719]

@@longiusaescius2537 I'm afraid you missed the point of that scene, which is a father struggling to pass onto his son timeless values and truth in a nightmarish situation.

[@longiusaescius2537]

@@johnmarcucci1719 How is an oath particularly nightmarish?

[@luisitocomunista546]

@@longiusaescius2537Propaganda in a totalitarian regime

[@lisaprince5767]

This movie depicted how you find good men in despotic regimes and evil men in free countries. Xavier March proved that.

[@lisaprince5767]

The scene with Anna...."they were resettled...IN THE AIR."... A chilling glimpse into the mind of a female psychopath. Who...like so many of her kind was a legend in no one's mind but her own. Who hated others for their success while blaming them for her failures.

[@rockyracoon3233]

Jean Marsh was great!

[@christiancherniss8063]

NO LIE sent shivers down my spine. As an America Jew in his mid 50's I found this movie to stir every emotion I had. I felt for the HAUER Character also. You know not all German soldiers were SS like. Same with the Submariners A lot of them were out to see most of the war and their losses were staggering. My father was a bubblehead in the US navy.

[@omoios_gr]

nether at the film, nether at the book, it doen't explain why nazis were against the jews. Ok, nazis believe at the supreme german race, compare with others, but for exable, they do not kill all the polish, they do not kill all the french, they do not kill all the hungarians, etc. Why they hate so much only the jews? What was the reason for such a hate? Nether to the book, nether at the film, give this answer.

[@cheryldeboissiere7824]

@@omoios_gr , hating the Jews was away of uniting people in doing wrong to others

[@longiusaescius2537]

@Cheryl de Boissiere if 400+ nightclubs kick me out maybe there a problem with my actions

[@scoobbbbbydo]

this movie needs a reboot

[@kevinloving606]

Again it needs to be a mini-series or a limited run full blown series a two hour movie even well which this isn't by any stretch of the imagination can never tell anything like the book did.

[@jltaco85]

@@kevinloving606 well there's "the man in the high castle" although different plots but the concept remains the same: nazis winning the war. It's a pretty great show already on it's 3rd season.

[@sebathadah1559]

No it doesn't because then the fucking SJW infested Hollywood studios would make it something terrible.

[@The_Crimson_Fucker]

No because it will be ham fisted, bargain bin soylent propaganda.

[@victorvaughn2]

would never work today. the entire premise is utterly naive by today's standards. everyone is now fully aware of the enormous capacity for human self-deception. in reality, viewing those photos at the end, most people would be like "this is nothing its just people who died of typhus, how sad, its all the Russians fault." lol

[@BruHunziker]

Geez, this comment section is one of the most depressing thing I've read in a while.

[@andyher1880]

It certainly is: welcome to the dungeon dimensions of the U-tube comment fields, where at least half the voices belong to rabid nazis, complete morons, or both.

[@petercarrick2678]

@@andyher1880 ahh jewing for them i see

[@andyher1880]

@@petercarrick2678 You bet. No sense of history, no uncles killed in '44, never mastered German or lived there, on and off during and after the Cold War, or kept in touch with my German friends or continued to read history and politics in the original German...just sittin' in my underwear, watching the Hitler Channel, jewing for the secret masters...you bet'cha, just another ill-informed moron bloviating my ill-informed opinion, unlike you, Herr Doktor von Nichtswissen. How could I hope to compete with the sort of sterling intellect that would use a phrase like, "Jewing for them"? It's actually rather comforting when the idiots you oppose prove your point with their every inbred utterance. Thanks, mate!

[@danielalvarez-galan3702]

Tony D I'm agreeing with you man! That documentary is 100% trash. I'm sorry but it has literally autistic quality, only alt-right "ubermensch" buy into that crap. I've watched and read over 1000 hours of WW2 crap and I can tell you that the ignorance some people have about history makes me want to shoot myself.

[@kaizersoze]

Basically, don't vote for people that want to take your guns and raise your taxes while promising free stuff. Vote jobs, not welfare mobs.

[@lisaprince5767]

A critical point of this film...its more than just an alternative ending to ww2. Rutgers hauers character brought to light that good men exist not only in all shapes and sizes. But also in all forms of government.

[@christianblake3997]

I think it’s wonderful that people upload films and take the time to offer this material for free I can’t believe how people in the comment section can be so nasty, if you don’t like the film don’t watch it it’s just entertainment be grateful you’ve got it free!!!

[@Cannibal713]

"Reseteled in ze air...smoke" Damn that line is chilling.

[@rockyracoon3233]

Jean Marsh was awesome in her small but significant part!

[@rogerhunt3125]

I like that.. resettled in the air. Perfect place for em

[@jamesphillips5813]

This should be made into a TV series over four seasons with ten episodes per series/season like the Man in the High Castle book has been then you could actually have a great adaptation of the book instead of a rushed film that misses most of the book..

[@TheMetalWarrior1993]

I've been wanting to watch this movie for a very, very long time. Thanks for uploading it!!!!!

[@valkyriesardo278]

I heard an architectural analysis of that gigantic domed building, They claimed because of the design and the mass of people it was built to accommodate, there would be rain indoors.

[@tom_trs_clarke3641]

There would have been clouds In the ceiling I heard

[@firemangan2731]

It would be disgusting, salaiva raining down.

[@RedcoatsReturn]

Although the thought of a Nazi Europe is gruesome, this film is a brilliantly acted classic, Rutger Hauer gives one of his best performances and Peter Vaughan too!

[@paulthomas9271]

Are you a nazi

[@Juntasification]

The book is a hell of lot better than this movie.

[@theredfox67]

True

[@igilistr]

Also, from i read, that journalist girl had survived and Zavi got "Bolivian army ending" with Gestapo at site of Auschwitz.

[@beaukennedy4618]

Juntasification yeah I'd be cool if they could do a remake so it's less cringworthy and is more book based with today's technology and techniques it'd also look a hell of a lot better

[@brendi9822]

Says you. It was up for awards or did you miss that. I liked both book and the movie.

[@ozdavemcgee2079]

Juntasification we can add a bit in to. Show a Stalinesque Soviet leader..Merkhel could do that role

[@legoclonetrooper]

I like the part where the Fatherland said: "It's fatherlanding time." And fatherlanded all over the place

[@McRocket]

Fascinating movie. I appreciate you posting it.

[@anthonybeaumont7740]

Michael kitchen,Rutger Hauer,Peter Vaughan all brilliant actors including John Shrapnel and John woodvine

[@Snootyboss]

SS GB, a British TV series managed to capture what this film didn't. It's a shame that this wasn't made as a big screen film rather than a TV film as it just doesn't do the book justice. Some great actors in here but I don't know if it's the directing, lack of budget or whatever that leaves it lacking. Good to see 'Grouchy' in it. Always a menacing chap in his mannerisms. (For those under 50 or overseas, look up porridge. An incredible 70's series)

[@lindairvine7679]

I thought the actors were very good but yes I think direction wasn’t as good as it could of been and it was nice to see the guy from porridge, I think I saw him in game of thrones too , he’s a great actor

[@neilreading3552]

Peter Vaughn. The "genial" Harry Grout "Grouty". Porridge is one of the best ever.

[@jk28416]

SS GB was bollox compared to this, this was the last TV movie that Britain managed to make that was both well acted and well scripted.

[@sharonjones873]

His rendition of God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen in an Xmas edition of Porridge is hilarious and chilling at the same time! @@neilreading3552

[@paulthomas9271]

Didn’t know Peter Vaughan was in game of thrones are you sure?

[@shaolindynasty]

When I see this movie, I expect the actor in this film to say. "Didn't you get the memo?"

[@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork]

Or, I want more life father.

[@jasminjavorina199]

It's all a bit technical but...

[@Jimmy-ri2gw]

Batman begins

[@jeromewagschal9485]

Seeing modern ( in the 1960's ) buildings and cars with Gestapo uniforms in the middle and ads for the Beatles is completely surreal... I never thought Nazis and rock'n'roll would work but hey... Excellent movie, thank you so much for that...I never knew it existed...

[@RedStarRogue]

♪ I need a job, so I wanna be a- *Gauleiteeeeer, Gauleiter* ♪

[@jeromewagschal9485]

@@RedStarRogue 😄😄😄

[@benway23]

Thank you for uploading this.

[@ilgatto7327]

Robert Harris' Fatherland is a fantastic work of historical fiction and was I completely engrossed while reading it and could not put it down. However, this adaptation was very poorly done and not convincing at all. The biggest glaring problem was that this adaptation lacked any 'German' feel whatsoever. Nazi Germany was German and the characters in this movie should have acted, sounded and felt like Germans rather than just a bunch of American actors running around in Nazi uniforms. There is a way about the German people that is unmistakable and this movie completely lacked that. If the producers of this movie concentrated more on this detail rather than trying to create all those images of Hitler's Germania the result would have been much better.

[@MajorWolfgangHochstetter]

I'm just 50 minutes into it and very bored with the film (I did not know a book existed). First of all, "Why would there be a 'cold war'?' Secondly, 'Hitler would have obliterated the Soviet Union using the new weapons his people were developing' Thirdly, 'He would not have cared one iota on having a summit with a man who made his fortune dealing with the mob and illegal booze. He who abstained from alcohol would have found the notion of meeting Kennedy repulsive, and for what purpose?' He had beaten the western powers including the USA and he would be calling the shots. A basic problem with 'novels' such as this is that the writers assume the USA would have remained a major player in world affairs. I'm not a prejudiced person but this film comes across as most Hollywood films do and to be frank there is in my opinion a very strong Jewish influence in it's production.

[@TheKenPrescott]

​@@MajorWolfgangHochstetter Show me on the doll where the Jew hurt you

[@JacksonBegleymusicguy]

Actually, a lot of Germans speak such good English, that they have a pretty obvious American or British accent when speaking English.

[@brendi9822]

@@MajorWolfgangHochstetter EVERYONE IS A CRITIC. AS FOR AMERICAN ACTORS- HAUER AND RICHARDSON ARE NOT AMERICAN- NICE. IT IS HARD TO PLAY FICTION PERFECTLY BECAUSE IT IS FICTION. DAMN. MAYBE YOU NEED A LITTLE COMPREHENSION AID?

[@brendi9822]

@ShadeyBladey ANOTHER CRITIC, I'LL STICK TO THIS VERSION. BOOK AND FILM were PERFECT. THEN AGAIN, I LOOK FOR SUBSTANCE NOT FLUFF.

[@raphaelandrews3617]

I am glad this was posted, THX, I have been wanting to see this for some time. It isa very good thriller. Reguer Heur is in excellent .I recalled reading the book, it gives more back ground about Germania and Hitler.

[@g13flat]

My tiny claim to fame is that I knew the actor playing the part of the fake porter, Charlie De'Ath. He stayed in the same hostel as me in the mid to late 80s.

[@imerupp]

Thank you for posting this film, I wish they would do a remake. I say that ONLY if they plan on adhering more to the book and how like in this film. It puts you in the decade with the backdrop, good feel.

[@rrpd4130]

Thank you for sharing this! RIP, Rutger.

[@marcychan168]

Excellent movie Thanks for posting Who is here 2020 Happy Thanksgiving God bless

[@michaelheath2866]

I've had my issues with exactly how this world came about, they're pretty vague about it, but other than that it's always been an excellent and entertaining film. Of all the Nazi films I've seen, this one always stands out. I'm not going to bash it for being worse than the much better book of course, because I know that's not how films work, they're never like their books, when there are books at all to base them on. But for it's time and content, I would say this is a film worth watching.

[@Mutlap]

Putin is now trying to change the coming "New Order" he totally hates the US

[@cleanerben9636]

it's the most mundane alt-history imo which is why it stands out. The premise is fairly realistic.

[@archieames1968]

@@cleanerben9636 most nazi alt history is them flying ufos over a conquered DC when in reality itd most likely be a cold war but with the germans in place of the russians.

[@patricklarm5462]

I mean, the Soviets would have steam rolled over the Nazis one way or another, tehy had more tranks, planes and soldiers, more artillery and more reliable technology.

[@archieames1968]

@@patricklarm5462 because of allied support but your point still is valid.

[@Wailot6]

if this was made in 94, one year after jurassic park why does the video quality look like its made in the 70s?

[@camieabz]

Half-assed Budget & Organisation (HBO)

[@jltaco85]

well the director was no spielberg.

[@thehindenburg811]

Because it took place in the 60s

[@nice4615]

because its a KZbin video

[@jonraybon8582]

Probably recorded on a VHS tape set to 6 hour, like everyone did back then.

[@gameblor]

Even if this wasn't set in a fascinating alternate time-line, its still an interesting story hands down. Now in 2019, everyone's doing the "what if Germany had won"? Books & TV.

[@hughsnyder6967]

We have our own version called what it Biden Won. O fun he did or s they say he did. Just like they say Hitler Was voted in.that election was also rigged

[@wpc9163]

It would be interesting to know what happened to Xavier March in our timeline. Of course, it's possible he didn't even survive the war. His boss, Arthur Nebe, died in 1945 in this timeline. Nebe was directly involved in the Holocaust.

[@dbcichetti]

....no longer living in the house of the blind...such a great line

[@ridds777]

What Germany couldn't do militarily is now doing to Europe economically.

[@anthonybeaumont7740]

UKs out of Germany's EU shambles

[@alexander8688]

When you make huge amounts of stuff people want to buy you become very powerful. You sound jealous, are you a pommy.. You still butthurt you lost your precious empire and that the UK is a second rate has been country where the native people rapidly becoming a minority in their own country.😂

[@smacwhinnie]

@@anthonybeaumont7740well, voted for it anyway

[@TheStarcoMarco]

I think here's the reason why Stalin still lead the Soviet Union. The Doctor's Plot never happened resulting Joseph Stalin still alive.

[@jeffreythomson3958]

In 1932 Joseph Kennedy convinced William Randolph Hearst to support FDR, saying Roosevelt was an isolationist and fiscal conservative.. In return Kennedy expected FDR to support him succeeding Roosevelt after his two terms were up in 1940.

[@garyswift5]

Thanks for the upload. I enjoyed watching it. I enjoyed it for what it is: an entertaining way to pass a couple of a couple of hours. I don't pay any attention to this film's detractors as if they could do any better.

[@toddjpiascik3653]

I read the book almost 20 years ago and thought then it would make a good movie but now it turns out The Man in the High Castle came along and lived up to everything this could have been.

[@deanericson5339]

Todd J Piascik I am very intrigued about your 1929 residence in Connecticut. And you're cute too!!

[@JackSardonic]

TMITHC is trash, both as a novel and TV series

[@dbcichetti]

I enjoyed MITHC, but the idea that Japan and Germany could occupy the United States is wholly unbelievable. This alt history is a bit more believable. I think this book/movie was a bit off too. Even if the D-Day invasion had failed Germany was still too extended in Russia and were doomed to failure.

[@Jebu911]

@@dbcichetti Well in the book they dont break the enigma and they destroy the entire 150k allied soldiers on the beaches of Normandy. I think that could have made a reasonable difference. Also Germany made nukes at the same time US did so they didn't want to fight as Germany had ICBM tech with the V3 rockets.

[@dbcichetti]

@Jebu911 it is too many what ifs. I don't see Germany being able to cross the Atlantic with a large invasion force. Even if they did, the USA is too large to occupy. 1940s America was too well supplied from within. The US could not he blockaded and starved into submission. The Russia factor would need to be solved too. I forget how they dealt with that in book/series, but Russia was equally unoccupiable.

[@Jon_from_LI]

An underrated alt history film IMO. I liked how it takes into account some of the controversial people like Joseph Kennedy Sr.

[@sudiptoyaqub5731]

the gestapo uniform is so frightful

[@DavidJones-fm1sr]

Rutger Hauser's death scene in the rain dressed all in black remanescent of Blade Runner

[@Fulllife3.2]

What i want to know is how did the war still continuing magically lengthen Stalin's lifespan?

[@aportakal]

Full Life 3 It is rumored that in our timeline, Stalin was assassinated by Soviet higher-ups who could no longer tolerate his hardass attitude and frequent purges once the war was over. In this timeline the war rages on, hence he is still popular and thus, no assassination.

[@LoneKharnivore]

One of my favourite films. It gives me chills every time.

[@tomduggan51]

Szymon, Thanks for providing this film. Interesting and somewhat terrifying premise, which but for a fortunate twist of fate, could have been all too real!

[@nickarcher03]

Gripping, well-acted and extremely well written.

[@gilksy6604]

Er...no Badly scripted, averagely acted and poorly rewritten for the screen

[@VitruviusXXV]

An intriguing and suspenseful movie, based on a novel by a great author. Hey, it may have happened in a a parallel timeline.

[@jeffreythomson8068]

The problem with Joe Kennedy being president in 1964 was that in Dec 1961 he suffered a massive stroke that confined him to a wheelchair. This likely came about when J. Edgar Hoover informed him about taped phone conversations between his son and Marilyn Monroe which if made public would have ruined John Kennedy's reelection.

[@fatimaachebly1279]

Hoover never told Joe anything about Marilyn?????

[@rustyshackleford4761]

I think the death of his first son sent his health in a downward spiral

[@Valmontst]

Karma struck Joe Kennedy for what he had done to his poor daughter, Rosemary!

[@leomarkaable1]

Post war Germany, in this novel, resembles nothing so much as East Germany with money.

[@packardexelence]

LEOMARKAABLE-----I believe that's by DESIGN; after all BOTH ARE TOTALITARIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --THE WORLDS--REAL post-war Germany is Democratic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@packardexelence]

@Redsand ---SORY--?????

[@piekarzpaola]

And it was a good move

[@johnparkhurst6641]

Interesting but disturbing film. One of those “what if’s?”.

[@frankburns8946]

Amazing how many on here don't appear to have heard of Robert Harris...the author...the book came out in 1992...sold by the bucket load. There is a BBC radio4extra drama of the book starring Anton Lesser...it is excellent and more atmospheric than the film. The film however did well in its critical aclaim...and was nominated for an Emmy...

[@Sandwich13455]

His book Munich is garbage imho!

[@angelacarleton9575]

I love Robert Harris and will get the book in paperback to read it.

[@3506Dodge]

The Kennedy family must have HATED this.

[@lloydother]

I just finished the book.. now im watching this.. im freakinf obsessed

[@briangordon782]

This was the movie that introduced me to alternate history.

[@louisbuchenwald7820]

It should be a war crime for uploading in 480p

[@brickson98m]

Louis Buchenwald you realize the movie was made in 94? Higher resolution wouldn’t help at all... 480p was what you got

[@Oblio1942]

the last third of the movie seemed pretty weak. Like dude spends his whole life believing hes the good guys, even becomes a major (even tho thats not technically an ss rank) of the political party of the nazis as a cop. Then he sees like 3 pictures and hears some words off some papers, doesnt even read the papers, from some random journalist from a country that was at one time at war with germany and doesnt think for more than 2 seconds that this could be some bs. Yeah I get he was the whole movie like 'idk about these gestapo guys', but the way it turns from one sketchy murder to finding out the final solution in 10 like minutes and then somehow nobodys heard of that in like 20 years. And then the president of the US does the same exact thing moments before a big alliance and just dips, and that somehow means the reich ends even tho it seems like they were doing pretty good without that alliance to begin with. Concept was v good just super underwhelming and cliche

[@paratrooper508]

its a work of fiction, its certainly not perfect

[@jonharrison9222]

Read the book.

[@msaintpc]

Deep. I like how they portray and highlight the competition, enmity and animosity shared between the SS and the Gestapo.

[@beaukennedy4618]

Jon snow found out he was aemon targarian but he still didn't know that he was in the SS before going to the wall

[@thetrumpnewsnetwork7503]

good call

[@corduroy99]

Netflix needs to make a limited series of the book.

[@itsJamesCaligo]

And watch them make Hitler a black man

[@stormywindmill]

If D Day had failed , the atomic bomb was only 14 months away I'm sure it would have been used on Germany to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat .

[@cmciaranmasterson]

According to the Wikipedia synopsis, in the novel, D-Day didn't happen.

[@johnkittoiv2572]

Ciarán Masterson no it did... But it failed.... The movie even expressed that.

[@boblaryson3621]

stormywindmill also there's no point in abandoning the war if d day failed. At a maximum 100 thousand American and allied forces would have been killed. There's still over 1 million in Great Britain and hundreds of thousand of allied and American troops in Italy. The German forces wouldn't have the extra resources to spare to fortify the western front while fighting in the east let alone push the allies back on two fronts

[@zzzxxc1]

bob laryson It took years to plan dday. If the landing failed it would take years to plan another invasion after the failure of the first one

[@davestang5454]

If D-Day had failed the American forces would have regrouped and staged ANOTHER invasion from a different location. The Americans and British Air Forces had clear air superiority and the German army was decimated. It would have looked different logitically but the alllies would have won.

[@michaelalexander3078]

Been looking for this movie, thank you for posting!

[@DannyBoy777777]

Just learned Mirander Richardson got a golden globe for this. Deserved I think.

[@cubankid1959]

The premise the allies losing the war against Germany is hilarious. The Soviets wouldn't have stopped the push against the Germans and they just would ave extended the war long enough to be nuked by America

[@starguy2718]

True enough. After Stalingrad and Kursk, Zhukov and the Red Army were not going to stop, until they reached Berlin. And had the Normandy invasion failed, the Allies already had taken Italy and the South of France, so they would have simply pressed on to Germany from there.

[@Prauwlet213]

@@starguy2718yep. The war would have ended maybe a year or two later, and the ussr would have a better starting position for the cold war. That’s about it

[@chrissytaylor6758]

This movie is aweaome cheers for the upload :)

[@smaaj0007]

An excellent cast but the plots and underlying messages from the book were mangled in this adaptation. E.g. Joe Kennedy was a notorious anti-Semite not the liberal hero portrayed here.

[@rhodesianwojak2095]

lol he functionally was but ok boomer

[@padmac8176]

Which is possibly why in this adaptation he was friendly with Hitler until at the end when he saw those photos. Anti Semite or not I don't think he would have been all for the extermination of millions of Jews.

[@MemestiffGaming]

An interesting thing to ask: Even if the Americans find out about the Holocaust, what will they do about it? Nuke the shit out of Germany, declare war? Do nothing? The ending really leaves it to your imagination!

[@michaelluccketta5838]

Being that by the 1960's it was very much a nuclear armed world and also because Stalin was a bigger monster than Hitler, probably keep quiet about the knowledge obtained. The President would more than likely order the intel orgs to perform further studies and order the Joint Chiefs to provide possible military options and outcomes

[@Torgo1001]

Once President Joseph Kennedy and the American government knew about the Holocaust, the detente conference with Hitler was called off. The ending narration by Xavi's son Pili said that without an alliance with the United States, Hitler's government collapsed.

[@bigger_mibber6029]

Can't discover something that you have personally made up.

[@Valmontst]

The US could not have done anything if they wanted to maintain the peace. Besides, what Stalin did was much worse.

[@edwardpate6128]

An awesome alt history book and film adaptation.

[@johnfisher4872]

Do you also have a copy of Conspiracy (201) with Kenneth Branagh and Colin Firth? I have been searching for it on You Tube with no luck

[@Lee2k4]

Agreed the book had kept me awake for hours, constantly wanting to smoke, drink coffee and Whisked and think of Charlie.... with her camera

[@seculartapes]

As mediocre as this movie was, it would have been 50% better if they’d given Rutger Hauer’s character a decent hat. He looks like a steamboat captain.

[@acedia_14]

This is like a crime thriller that is randomly set in post war nazi germany for no reason. Did they just want to wear those slick uniforms?

[@brendi9822]

Try some deep thought- if you can.

[@kevinloving606]

Yes they wanted to wear those Hugo Boss inspired Uniforms to think a Mephstopholic government and party had such awesome uniforms Mesphstolic in that the Nazis just didn't want to destroy the Jews and no matter what the deniers say the Jews had a Covenant with God Himself between Him and Abraham but they wanted to replace true Christianity with pagan Nordism

[@kyndread71]

RIP Rutger Hauer!

[@ROADSTAR728]

Very interesting plot but I have to admit, the movie was kind of lame. Way too much time spent on the story of a few people considering the endless possibilities such a scenario would create. One thing I find difficult to believe and unrealistic....... if Germania is still at war with Russia 20 years after WW2 ended, surely 1 nation (most likely Germania) would have developed Atomic weapons and used them, virtually guaranteeing victory. No way is a nation with such a huge advantage over it's enemy is going to concede defeat, and not use them to gain the upper hand and achieve victory Especially in 1965......

[@ROADSTAR728]

Also extremely unrealistic ? Keeping the deaths of well over 10 Million People a secret. No way that would be successfully hidden from the entire World.

[@ArachKing]

At the end it says "Hitler's Reich collapsed..." So what happened? Was he captured and tried, or managed to commit suicide beforehand like in real-life? I hate it when films gloss over juicy deets like that (regardless if it was following the book in this instance)...

[@dariogagliano4218]

Not to mention that the idea that Germany would have won the war simply from a failed invasion of Normandy is silly, especially since the Allies already had a second front in Italy. But then again, the movie details had to be shortened to appeal to an audience that was simply unaware of the major details of the war. The book is far better written. In the book, Germany wins because they manage to successfully blockade the British isles (after finding out that their enigma code had been broken) and they break through in the Caucasus, allowing them to reach Soviet oil fields and reinvigorate the war effort. This delays the war into 1946, which allows Germany to develop the atomic bomb and the V3 rocket, which dissuade the Americans from further action. Also, the ending of the book is left as a cliffhanger and there is no implication whatsoever that the German Empire collapses.

[@jvdesuit1]

May I remind you that when William Shirer's book "The rise and fall of the 3rd reich" was published in Germany in the early sixties, Adenauer had the nerve to ask the USA and Shirer personally to have the publishing stopped. That the German press had the nerve to pretend what was written were lies to intensify hate against the Germans! Read Shirer's memoirs If my memory doesn't fail me it is in his second volume. So a refusal of established facts from the German archives kept at the library of Congress which Shirer was able to use to write his book and was the first to do so, shows perfectly that it is possible to brainwash not only a whole population but many countries. As a French man I've just finished reading a biography of that lousy criminal who was Petain whom the USA were stupid enough to continue to try to support until 1944. Roosevelt who did not know the content of our constitution and how a French President was elected had the nerve to pretend that Pétain was a legally elected chief of State when he was absolutely not and moreover had all along the 4 years he was in power been sustaining a collaboration with the Nazis. Today many classified documents of the period have at last been opened to historians and the book on Pétain published in 2014 gives a full account of how that so called great soldier betrayed his country with his cronies and was lucky not to loose his head under the guillotine. So in conclusion the scenario could have perfectly happened but thank god there was Churchill and the RAF in particular who resisted those criminal monsters and the USA who are so proud of their acts during the war and of course should be nevertheless were not courageous enough to enter the war in 1939 and acted as accomplices of France and Great Britain by letting Hitler take power in 1933 and prepare to slaughter Europe and prepare the Final Solution.

[@jvdesuit1]

***** Not to say that there are the different sessions of the Nuremberg trials where movies and pictures of this horror were presented to the participants and judges. What was not shown and/or mentioned were the scandalous acts of the Russians during their counterattack not to mention the Katin massacre....The western Allies for that matter had a hypocrite attitude, the USA being champions for that matter...

[@RootlessNZ]

Chilling and powerful - thanks for posting.

[@AreJayCee]

You should read the book my friend. 🙏

[@mattosullivan9687]

RIP Rutger do not care what movie he was good

[@leftylee5068]

No commercials! No advertisers willing to step forward?

[@tlmav.2.0thelogomuseumarch71]

OMG, Son. This movie is so freaking special. I don't know why they had'nt released this yet on DVD. Somebody needs to tell Shout! Factory to release this on DVD, pronto.

[@dunning234]

I herd this was a powerful drama thanks for posting it I will watch it. Different twist on history.

[@mkms685]

This is way more accurate than Man On A High Castle.

[@limelightraver5690]

It’s certainly closer to the truth than most speculative alternate history involving a post World War II Nazi Germany.

[@itskevinjustkevin]

This is much better than "man in the high castle"

[@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq.]

Europe in this film is still better than Europe today.

[@bombastic165]

Amazingly gripping, should remake this 👍

[@athansky25]

I think Germania Europe is more organized, structured, less Bureaucratic, projects a more civilised facade, architecturally inclined, like a RENAISSANCE Europe compared to what is EU today.

[@christophergonzales5839]

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[@aj2080xy6]

Yea but the EU isn't a police state.

[@johnhall8364]

Never saw this movie but I remember reading the book when it first came out. If you think about it the scenario presented wasn’t much different than what actually happened. Instead of a nazi empire run by mass murderers we actually had a communist empire run by mass murderers that we had to deal with.

[@vestibulate]

John Hall Hey, don't forget the American empire run by mass murderers. Nobody likes to be overlooked when it comes to death and destruction.

[@davidwatkins204]

Well look, now we've got the "jack of trumps" mouthing his obnoxious splurge around the world, the organisation he's the puppet leader of, that was formed on genocide, hey, they just act like oh, that never happened, see any similarity? as always, peace out man.

[@davidcopeland5450]

When I first saw this film it quickly became among my favorite alternate history films of all-time. However after reading the book for the first time recently, while there's still some about this film adaptation that I like, I've come to dislike the film for the most part. I just don't like how it diverged from the book so much and basically took out a lot of the critical pieces that were central to the story Fatherland was. I understand it's hard to do, especially when you have to condense everything down to two or less hours, but to me what changes they did made Fatherland's movie adaptation significantly weaker.

[@markbryant4641]

awesome story thanks for sharing

[@thisisajang]

Like it or not, you've gotta admit those uniforms are stylish and looks dapper

[@diatribe5]

Hugo Boss

[@karpizan]

Robert Harris wanted nothing to do with this abomination and it's not difficult to see why

[@jamescarr6324]

I enjoyed this movie...haven't read the book but it is unique in its timeline and Rutger was always underrated

[@victormeunier9075]

I really recommend the book.

[@johnmadden2421]

Robert Harris owes a great deal to a 1978 novel by Len Deighton, SS-GB, which has a similar story including a detective. That earlier novel was also made into a TV series. The voice over at the start of this TV movie is surprisingly terrible, and rather sets the style for the whole thing. Both novels deserve a decent movie treatment.

[@neilmiller3220]

Beatles poster ? Hitler would have thought them decadent !! They would not have been allowed to play!

[@mikeggg5671]

I love this movie, but they got so much wrong: the SS runes, medals, decorations, hats, weapons, salutes, etc. Good film, tho.

[@lawsonj39]

The film is set in 1964; a lot of those details would have evolved in the meantime.

[@venuspluto67]

Not in the least that by WWII, the SS were no longer wearing black uniforms; they had switched over to an earthen grey similar to army uniforms.

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

@@venuspluto67 Militaries and law enforcement have been known to go back to older styles or something similar.

[@venuspluto67]

@JKJ: Well, there was a practical reason, I suspect, for losing the black unis: It must have been just roasting to wear one of those things during the summer, even in northern Europe.

[@jamesphillips5813]

If nobody has read the book The Fatherland then i highly recommend you do as this film doesn't do the book justice it's to short and you miss most of the storyline..

[@user-kt8yp5ho2y]

I wish that this film was remake.