Better Late then Never - Anycubic M7 vs M7 Pro vs Saturn 4 vs Saturn 4 Ultra

[@TheAegisClaw]

Had my S4U just over a week. 5kg of resin through it and not one failed print, not one support breaking away. Literally flawless performance and so fast.

[@MAJmufin]

how does it compare to the S3U if you've had experience with it?

[@doomgolem5348]

Just thought how funny it would be if FauxHammer did this for regular 2D paper printers comparing all the tiny details. I would totally watch that lol. Maybe for April fools???

[@thomasanderson9814]

Dude, I follow your channel and you give very detailed information. After a long research, I pushed my budget and bought a Saturn 4 in the last days of the sale. The package arrived at my house in the morning. I had an accident on my motorcycle while returning from work in the evening. I hit the side of the car, I have a small fracture in my arm. I may not be able to go to work for a while. Since I was at fault in the accident, I am facing a difficult period financially. I've gone on too long. I hope the Saturn 4 doesn't give me any trouble during this recovery period. It will be my first resin printer. It's still in its box. I'm watching your videos and taking notes.

[@robsonribeiro7552]

I really appreciatte all your honesty and comments looking from the regular kind of user... thanks a lot dude. For me, your channel is my place to go about 3d printers review. Thanks a lot!!!

[@keirbirch4632]

Same here. He's the man!

[@davidelvirafranqui7874]

Bought the M7 Pro Christmas time frame. You basically cover all the feature which made me go for this model. But, buyers should beware there's a batch of M7 series build plates that are ever so slightly concave causing failed prints and models to detach from the plate. In my case the concave plate causes failure in the middle and middle back portions. So long as I print around those areas it's solid. Keep notes on your prints to develop patterns. I contacted Anycubic, and they readily agreed to send me a new plate. I provided photos and an explanation. Second time I've used customer service and I am happy with them. Responsive within 12 hours. Overall, soon as my plate comes in, I'm going to be very satisfied with my purchase. Oh and agree with the resin pumps being messy and cumbersome.

[@rickpicard2873]

Good to know about their responsiveness on the build plate flatness. I got my M7 around the same time and when I used their standard V2 resin I had no issues. I then got some of their "texture" resin and started to notice it wasn't truly flat. I releveled multiple times and still find I am better off using the rear portion of the build plate. When I finish this resin I will go back to the other stuff and see if its still an issue, but I will definitely reach out to Anycubic for a replacment.

[@davidelvirafranqui7874]

@@rickpicard2873 run a flat edge across the plate x/y and see if any light shines through. Your story seems very similar to mine. I switched to the textured after one bottle of standard. The detail from the textured is amazing, but my bottom time exp is 60s. Fast forward 2 bottles, several failures and not as quality looking prints and I find the plate is concave. Really hoping this solves my issue

[@rickpicard2873]

@@davidelvirafranqui7874 Yeah, I had already done that. I do have a high spot. Its in the center front of the plate. I can see the light come through. I am currently running smaller items so I just force them along the rear of the build plate. I did find that I need to up the bottom exposure time as well - but no where near as much as you. I am using 36s now, whereas I was using 25s for the standard. I do have some larger projects in the queue which will require the use of the entire build volume - so I just contacted Anycubic about getting a new plate.

[@Jim-tn3vq]

Anycubic 7Max - I had the same concave plate and on further investigation I found a larger gap when the adjusting screws (2) on the side of the build plate were undone. I had one side tighten firm and the other side loose. The gap was about plus 1.5 mm at the "L" shape bracket and the carrier. I then removed the "L" bracket and machined it to close down the gap to .2mm. Then reassembling and leveled the plate. By doing this it eliminated the pulling force placed on build plate and the plate became perfectly flat. So much so its now perfect. Now there is no light shining under the straight edge at all. Adjusting print settings was only masking the issue of adhesion. While my career involved investigating engineering non conformance there is usually a cause for problems and people often take the easy way out. I have report my findings to Anycubic along with photos and they kindly placed the build plate even after I asked them not to. But thanks Anycubic anyway.

[@contentcop]

i had a plate issue with my s4u. it was not assemebled correctly making it not level correctly and not keep the same level. chased my tail FOREVER with this issue. just said fuck last chance idea and it instantly fixed my issues

[@InterstellarModeler]

Based on your previous reviews, I ended up choosing the S4U. What sold me was the tilting vat mechanism. Overall it has been working great and is definitely faster than the Saturn 8K I previously owned. However, as mentioned when I reached out to you, I've noticed more fumes. I ended up solving that issue by buying an enclosure by Yoopai and it solved the problem. The printer is hooked up to an active vent system incorporating an exhaust fan. Thanks for your balanced reviews of all these products. They're extremely helpful.

[@MattLoureiro]

Helpful as always, Ross. Good seeing ya, mate!

[@Brandonr757sGaming]

I bought an M7 a few weeks ago; no regrets at all! Would definitely recommend it to people; I've had a good experience so far, my troubleshooting hasn't been difficult, and I have confidence that it wouldn't be cumbersome to replace components when it's eventually time for that. I don't care for the M7 Pro; the only feature I'd maybe like is chamber heating but, as you said, I'd rather just buy the ~$70 add-on heater and go that route.

[@doomgolem5348]

I totally agree, got one a few weeks ago and I love it. Honestly I think it might be the best printer on the market, certainly close to it

[@dasdude]

Finally got my GK3 Ultra but haven't set it up since I am still building my ventilated enclosure and had to modify the 3 tubes on the Wash unit (will complete today) and now all of these new printers are coming out with sweet features. I need to win the lottery to keep up... Another very helpful video as always, sir. Thank you!

[@AustinLindstrom]

The GK3 Ultra launch has been riddled with gigantic, backbreaking issues. Be careful, and good luck.

[@dasdude]

@@AustinLindstrom Thank you for the warning. I know there were some issues but haven't really compiled a list to check against. Do you know of such a list so I can check it against my unit and see if I will experience them? Thanks!

[@ShaneHorne]

Just as this is released Elegoo released the Saturn 4 Ultra 16K. It fixes some the complaints, but not the build plate. I should add, Great review, thank you.

[@BNTmodels]

You know what would be an AMAZING innovation? To have the control panel of the printer on a separate 'box' or 'pad'... connected with a (flexible) power cord to the printer. This way, you can lay the touch panel aside while removing prints or filling the vat... and any resin that might spill would fall on the base of the printer and NOT DRIP DOWN over your control panel.

[@Pretti-Trendy]

Just bought a Saturn 4 Ultra last week, needed the ease of setup

[@FauxHammer]

it just works right?

[@matthiash.4670]

I have the little brother: Mars 5 Ultra. Easy is the key word here. I never messed around with resin before. I even didn't do any research before. Bought it, set it up, filled resin in and here she goes... It was a successful print. Nothing to complain about. I just hate the "messiness". Cleaning the printer, cleaning the printed item and so on, I am not a big fan of this work. Especially because all the waste is nasty chemicals. But after all I'm very happy with the buy. I just have to find the right resin for my technical applications.

[@keirbirch4632]

I have the mars 5 it's brilliant and my first foray into 3d printing. Love the look of the new 16k Saturn though I hear it has a heater

[@JerryBWagoner]

Great Video. This pushed me further into the M7-Norm camp. After my build plate issues with GK3U (which are resolved and printing), I'm ready for a standard build plate with dynamic lift / pressure sensing and a mobile app. I'll bite the bullet and change the ACF first thing, and never look back. February 15th is coming. 😊

[@rickpicard2873]

I got my M7 for its simplicity. I had never used ACF before and was curious how bad it was even though I intended to replace it. After seeing the results after the first print I swapped it right away.

[@JerryBWagoner]

@rickpicard2873 Are you happy with the M7? It really looks like the right mix of tried and true essentials with new technology, but the truth comes with actually printing on it. :)

[@Whoopsie00]

Great vid Faux, wasnt going to comment until the end but my god. The "Saturn 4 Ultra 16k" is maybe the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[@cnspartan]

I probably could have used this video about a month and a half ago LOL. I ended up watching your year-round up and realized I was probably going with the Any cubic. I decided to go with the M7 because of how cheap it was (black Friday deals and what not). after about 2 weeks I had to swap my film for my vat due to a hole. I ended up swapping to a pfa, and honestly, I wish I stuck with ACF. I've had more failures with PFA than with ACF. Grant it I might be making some huge error, but I've watched enough setting videos to think maybe it's not me. Any way I enjoy watching your videos and this didn't make me regret my purchase which is always a good sign

[@KimHarderFog]

Saturn 4 Ultra - simply due to the non-fuzz of lvling and the brilliant tipping mechanism

[@patrickassmus3132]

Cannot wait to see your video about the stunt Bambu Labs pulled this weekend…

[@FauxHammer]

I don;t really do printer news videos, just reviews. I;m following the bambu news like everyone else. But lets just say, it's a fucking good time for me to be working on my Prusa XL and Creality K2 videos! I'll certainly be mentioning this

[@ausfoodgarden]

@@FauxHammer I hope you get to check out the Flashforge AD5X too. It's looking like an almost P1P cheaper than an A1. I just canceled my P1S order with Bambu, but I have an A1 in transit which I'll just use in LAN mode. Oh btw the extractor port on the M7 looks very much like the ducted vacuum cleaner systems we have here. I've only got the M5S Pro so can't measure it.

[@BrianF.1969]

I have a Saturn 4. Looking back I do wish I had gotten the Saturn 4 ultra mostly because of the multi exposure test feature. I don't do enough printing on the Saturn 4 for the build plate cleaning to be a big issue. But it is still an inconvenience. I did recently purchase a Anycubic mono 4 ultra to do the most of my printing since most of what I print is small parts for 1/25-1/24 scale model cars. It seems a little easier to clean. I will leave the resin in the tank up to a week or two if needed. I have covers built to cover the vats when not in use.

[@aroncheek5092]

The round vent hole on the anycubic looks like a similar size to a hoover pipe

[@Frostfly]

The variable lift is irrelevant for the Elagoo machine. It's a nice feature I'm sure, but the tilt bed is just ...better. it's gentler, and faster. The build plate on the Saturn is indeed a horror. I picked the Saturn 4 Ultra based on your review. I'm mostly printing castable resins and the tilt bed just makes the most sense.

[@patrikandersson8054]

There is one (somewhat important) consideration you failed to cover, and that is the slicer software. I bought a Saturn 4 a few months ago, after having owned an Anycubic Photon D2 for almost 2 years. I love the Saturn, but what I don't love is Chitubox. With an Anycubic printer, you get access to Anycubic Photon Workshop, which is much more user friendly, especially for beginners. I love printing on the Saturn 4, as the detail is excellent, but I wince every time I have to start Chitubox.

[@ltupps]

There is Elegoo SatelLite slicer coming out, beta for windows is out now, Mac is coming in the coming soon.

[@patrikandersson8054]

@@ltupps I know. But we don't know how good it is going to be. Anycubic Photon Workshop was kind of crap when I started using it, but when they got to version 2.0, it was already better than Chitubox is today. I hope SatelLite will progress faster, but I guess we will have to wait and see.

[@SteveSearle]

Go with Lychee.

[@JohnDoe-bz4yl]

I got the Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra for Christmas and it's my first 3D printer and any print fails I have had have been user error I have had to change the FEP on my Vat after putting a pinprick hole in it while cleaning out the left over resin by using the included plastic scrapper and I have since chucked that scrapper out and purchased a silicone scrapper I have also bought a spare Vat as a backup for when I have to replace the FEP I can still keep printing on it while changing the FEP which is pain in the behind if you ask me as there are so many screws

[@nathanwright8598]

Hahahaha. That opening joke was delightful.

[@drevolol]

I had a choice between these models. However, I took the m7 max. I’m wildly pleased with the printing speed (on average, a large figurine requires one print for 6 hours)

[@FauxHammer]

I do love the M7 Max. Such a nice printer!

[@pim1234]

Look at the big brain on FauxHammer !

[@FauxHammer]

smooth brain here mate

[@tiggax2000]

For the saturn 4 ultra most of the problems of the problems with the build plate are fixed for me, with a printed addon that adds a nice grabbing surface, and a option to tilt the plate and let the resin drip over an hour or so :)

[@RocktCityTim]

Excellent info. Still saving for a pair of RS units, though. Oh, and you forgot your Aff links.

[@PulsefiredGaming]

How many work hours does your S4U have?

[@rickpicard2873]

I picked the standard M7 and swapped to PFA straight away. I liked the idea of the Saturn Ultra's vat, but the more I thought about it I just did not see a huge advantage for my use case, and really was turned off by the build plate.

[@awildtomappeared5925]

2:45 why on earth can't they just include an stl adapter for the vent hole in the printer files on the USB stick that comes with the printer and on the site

[@FauxHammer]

I'm suspecting they have a product coming. I even have a thumbnail in mind for when said product comes out "Anycubic's Special Hole"

[@nomojo1110]

WTF does Better Late Then Never mean? Beyond writing a centuries old proverb like a US highschooler, I do value your observations, opinions & humour. Cheers mate 🤘

[@paulwingrove7105]

I got the saturn 4 ultra. Beautiful prints with almost no set up. Now I just need to find out why a 150mm print took 48 hours.

[@Zombull73]

I wonder if there's a way to replace the build plate on the S4U and get rid of that springy resin trap mess. Should theoretically be able to design and print an adaptor to use a better build plate. Or maybe dismantle the existing one and rebuild using its parts.

[@FauxHammer]

a few people have modded it with bolts. and taken the upper plastic frame off

[@Zombull73]

@@FauxHammer Did anyone publish what they did? Got links?

[@FauxHammer]

@@Zombull73 nothing off the top of my head. Derek from J3D tech showed me photos of his when I met him in Germany.

[@Wasagii]

Just tell us one thing... for the people.. Did elgoo change the build plate on the ultra 16k..

[@lewyocom4724]

I got the M7 no frills it’s been working great, I swapped the release film for clear.

[@FauxHammer]

solid machine, I do love it as much as I think the pro is a bit silly

[@joechunter1]

I have the Anycubic M7 Pro and love it! I only use NFEP film for highly detailed quality prints. I personally prefer the Anycubic v.s. the Saturn due to it being simple and basic. Don't forget the more features a printer has the more potential for failures to due more moving components! Anycubic hands down!

[@GordonBender]

Hey, I also have an M7 Pro and need to swap the release film. I ordered the ACF film because I had read that FEP films cause problems with this Anycubic model. Could you tell me exactly which film you ordered? Maybe that would be something for me too, even if I have to print a bit slower. Sometimes I'm not entirely satisfied with the quality of the prints, even if they are generally quite good. Thank you very much :)

[@Martin7_]

You haven't mentioned about leveling, if saturn 4 ultra goes out of the level it will be hard to fix it in comparison to anycubic

[@FauxHammer]

I have a fix in my Saturn 4 Ultra video

[@Willdmo]

S2U, price performance is just great

[@ampalacio81]

M7 firmware update? How will we know about this and how the machine will be patched? Any info on this topic? Thanks...

[@FauxHammer]

Non I can share. And it’s still a couple to a few months out

[@Botanical4038]

Saturn 4 ultra is just an incredible value. Print a drip hanger and good to go. Also don't listen to their screen replacement steps. There's a much easier way to do that if you treat it like a phone screen and pull it off without tearing the whole machine apart. Way easier, and way less time.

[@FauxHammer]

Completely agree, hard to beat what is typically $400!

[@Zeebface]

No video on the Saturn 4 ultra 16k?

[@FauxHammer]

it;s delayed, i had an issue, i now resolved

[@chemistrybro_]

i have 2 Saturn 4 ultras :) Planning on adding an M7 max for the increased size :D I also have an anycubic mono 4k, and a mono x6k and a elegoo Saturn 8k, my elders haha

[@MaheerKibria]

did you swap the ACF and PFA images for the xp2 validation? the ACF is notably clearly sharper and shows more detail.

[@FauxHammer]

Are you looking at the gaps at the bottom?

[@teyrasiridae4704]

The new S4U 16K improves upon the S4U SO much but they still kept that stupid flat plate :(

[@completelypurplexed6578]

Hey! Are you going to do a review for the recently announced S4U 16k? I’m debating on whether or not to get that one or the standard S4U.

[@FauxHammer]

I am, it will be a little delayed, but it is coming soon

[@AntJ91]

Nice video! Can you give a timeframe the Anycubic update will be out?

[@FauxHammer]

At least a couple of months,

[@AntJ91]

@ oh wow, hmm do you think the m7 max vat update will be before then?

[@FauxHammer]

@@AntJ91 Yeah, should be, before the normal M7,s which i was talking about. I hope that is within a month

[@Hero1117a]

Ultra 4 Saturn, I don't change my screens that often

[@StagsmanUK]

You think that Anycubic did a MASSIVE bulk order of those flash drives? Whilst i do not have a resin printer at the moment, the Anycubic M7 would be the one i would be looking closely at, maybe with the film change, being a little clumsy the Elegoo seems more than likely to be dropped at some point.

[@FauxHammer]

Knowing some stories of Shenzhen, they are probably made in the same factory

[@LuisG-SC]

nice video, do you have a link to the light you used on the saturn 4 ultra?

[@FauxHammer]

You won;t want it, it;s one of my cinema lights by AMARAN, it;s like £200 for a light. I just bunged in an LED strip in the end (well for a couple of future videos), stuck the cable out the top plugged that into the USB. but apparently some LED lights can start to cure the resin

[@LuisG-SC]

@@FauxHammer Thks for your reply, i will dig around.. maybe a "presence" light, the ones for kids at night might work, like i said i will dig around :)

[@FauxHammer]

@@LuisG-SC i think, you wnat a light witha Warm hue, it;s the blue lights in LED's that i think are close enough to the UV spectrum that they can affect the resin

[@LuisG-SC]

@@FauxHammer thks, i was checking one with warm led that is on amazon, going to buy it and once the weather gets a bit less cold here in portugal i will try it :)

[@UncannyPally]

I assume you'll do this video again when the S4U16K comes out in like a day? 😅

[@jamessalisbury3320]

What do you think of the phrozon revo compared to these?

[@FauxHammer]

It's fine, but lacks the more advanced features of either, whilst costing a lot more. I love Phrozen, they are good guys, but the market is incredibly competitive now.

[@jamessalisbury3320]

That’s all that puts me off is the price. Shame really. Nothing actually special about it to justify the price. Thank you for the video. Keep em coming

[@iannightingale9903]

Got the saturn 4 ultra. Honestly sort of fell in love with the tilt mechanism. Besides finding out that running an fdm to near the sat 4 causes level detections errors have loved this printer and thank you for the indepth reviews. One question @fauxhammer I've had one fail and it seems to be due to when I sliced the file it only sliced about 60 layers then just blanked out the other 2k layers of the print. Still sent file and started print and printed. Ever had this issue with lychee? I think it's my amd gpu crashing mid way through the slicing and it never recovering properly. I turned high def antialis off and worked OK afterwards.

[@АлександрМедынский-е9р]

Bought saturn ultra and sold it after several months of using, because there were several printing issues, like stripes and deformations, which I didn't understand how to fix. I didn't find any explanation except, these issues caused by tilting mechanism- it totally pissed me off.

[@dstar01]

The Saturn 4 Ultra is superior. I got both the Saturn and the m7 printers day 1, 2 of each and I have put these through their paces. Initially I loved the m7 more but I am not your average user. They have been running everyday, 100s of hours of use, since i got them and the M7 has failed me so much i had to return it 3 times, and even Anycubic's customer support had to give up on me (they sent me a lot of parts for free, excellent service). All my M7s had the same issue, after about 200 hours of use, i get a levelling error, and no matter what i did or what part i had to replace it never levels. Now, about 6 months after release, i have the same 2 saturns and 1 M7 (amazon exchanged) under 200 hours. Now i am waiting for the my latest m7 to break to finally just let go my loses....

[@OlimacKuma]

I’m on the Saturn 2 now. Looking to upgrade to either the ultra or the regular M7. Then Elegoo announce the 16k and now I gotta wait and re-research everything again. lol. Quick question to anyone that might have tried this on a Saturn 4 ultra: if you use/install a magnetic flex plate can you bypass the crappy plate design? Or does it cause issues?

[@FauxHammer]

I;ve heard from a few people now that you can install a flex plate yeah

[@OlimacKuma]

@@FauxHammer Thank you mate, this at least makes that plate a little less of an issue in terms of deciding which direction I'm going. Honestly at this point it'll depend on whether this new 16k printer has actual features/gimmicks that'll make the decision for me, or i'm just gonna close my eyes and throw a dart and pray for the best.

[@grimpixel8211]

Having had both now I think I prefer the M7 Pro over the Saturn 4 Pro. Neither are perfect. Each can make fantastic prints, but the thing that has me thus far preferring the M7 Pro is the heater, even at the cost of a stupidly unwieldy vat, and the Intelligent release. With the intelligent release the M7 Pro with PFA is still lightning faster vs the Saturn 4 Ultra for me with the same resin. It also doesn't help the Saturn's case when my tilting release gave up in month 7 and I was told it was past the 6 month warranty... more mechanisms that can fail that aren't backed up by much warranty isn't a fantastic feeling. If they found a different solution that didn't combine an awful pour spout with an awkward pump attached vat, and they moved to a swing lid I would say the M7 Pro would be damn near perfect.

[@jayfc3]

I have the 7 pro as well and have found the vat easy to clean. Little alcohol and run the cleaning cycle and it's done. Not sure why Ross has such a thing with it. The pump also works well with Elegoo bottles. Dig these comparisons but some of the contrasts are a little much. The cleaning vs the heater is a non-issue for most, as well as the film change. Easy to do.

[@suddskys7482]

Well. Now I'll have to wait until saturn 4 ultra 16 k.

[@FauxHammer]

My review will be a bit delayed. (I had a printing issue) but it;s coming, hopefully this week

[@suddskys7482]

@FauxHammer yes. One of my big questions is, if anycubic pure and heat thar comes with anycubic M5 s pro fit inside a mars 5 ultra.

[@normanmart7933]

Hi been looking at your videos , I'm non too technical pensioner looking for a printer for model railway for scenery etc budget around £200 ish , new or used , (Anycubic M3 Premium £160 ebay ) any recommendations. All these reviews are much appreciated .

[@AussieBoyLloyd]

this just tells me that now kind of isnt the time to invest into a resin printer / upgrade from my fdm ... seems all these companies need to refine their user friendly features and decide on either speed at cost of precision or just make a nice precision model .... personally i just want out of the box performance where i dont have to fudge about all the time.. its why i love my current fdm printer (bambu labs A1) cause i can just load a print and it does it without a fuss.. an out of box no fuss plug and play printer is what i need to see being an option from resin printers to buy one as a consumer.. if i'm getting quality and ease of use the price doesnt matter that much .. i'd rather spend more now than spend time cleaning and repairing machines cause of stupid oversights... nor do i wish to spend large volumes of time figuring out what settings i need constantly and adjusting the machine, having a machine that can for example auto level i feel at this point should be an industry standard... hopefully this year we see those good improvements implemented as i am looking into buying something for resin as it seems everyone is shifting over to resin unsurprisingly cause of the amazing quality..

[@locke3817]

partly already outdated with the Saturn 4 Ultra 16k, added handle, heated vat, camera with light

[@FauxHammer]

I know,,, i have a review coming (hopefully this week) as i said at the end. But i had this filmed and didn;t wnat to waste the effort so i got it out a day early

[@locke3817]

@@FauxHammer will be watching for sure, i've been holding back from buying the ultra. Keep it up, love you video format and all the commentary 👍

[@ASKAI1962]

i want to say. fair reviews are really rare. first they dont yeild any economic benefits. if you say bad things, companies dont pay you, they even report you in China. FauxHammer is actually my decision maker even im in mainland where a lot of native language reviewers exists simply because the media platform bilibili dont pay them for views they only get paid from the printer companies so they dont say shit if the machine is bad

[@PhilippSprunger-y3f]

Danke!

[@armholeeio]

That’s a mighty tasty burger..

[@Infoulnessyeshallknowthem]

Man, you must not read your comments use a vacuum hose. It just screws in the threads of the hose. Will just screw in there.

[@chaley2935]

Umm I thought it was a bad idea to be in the same room you print in? Edit: I bought the HeyGears 😂

[@FauxHammer]

I have an extractor

[@chaley2935]

​@@FauxHammer ahh, how do you extract the fumes when cleaning the prints within the room itself when you're cleaning your prints?

[@FauxHammer]

@ my other extractor above my cleaning station. I have a large ducted hose with a no return valve that opens when I turn the system on It cost a bit, I’d suggest most people stick with a grow tent.

[@chaley2935]

​​@@FauxHammer I've got a grow tent but I'm talking about once you up everything up. My setup is the printer is in the grow tent and the wash and clean is on a working area outside of it. Inside the tent I have a 720cfm exhaust fan that vents to the outside. The tent intakes the air that's in the room. Is the cfm fan fast enough to vent the room fast enough?

[@miguellopez3392]

3:30 its auto leveling, dropping a dislike for misleading information.

[@FauxHammer]

But It’s not auto “levelling”, it’s auto “zeroing”, it will not automatically level the plate and make it parallel to the screen. And quite a few people have had issues because it can’t be manually levelled. So much so that the new printer has a specific feature to now allow this. But from a hardware perspective, it’s still limited Geek Detour did a whole video about this

[@miguellopez3392]

@FauxHammer that's is still still auto leveling as I had made 0 adjustments to it after 3 FEP changes on 2 seperat vats, compared to manually leveling yourself from the box. hardware level manufactiring defects does not take from this, and neither does adding redundancy.

[@FauxHammer]

@@miguellopez3392 I mean, we are arguing semantics here, which is fine, i love to be specific. But this being, well intended to be where there are no defects (pre levelled), still does not auto level the system. and certainly not in the way that Elegoo marketed it where they show and unlevel bed levelling itself. So i see your point, but i personally don;t this this warrants a dislike for a valid claim of what the mechanism is actually doing in contrast to how it was shown. But it;s your call, I;m glad for the engagement either way and i;m glad we could discuss it