Sumi Boss Fight - Persona 5 Royal

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[@michaeljames6737]

6:30 sound like porn

[@kingoftropes922]

I like how Pancake's excuse to not help is basically "Yeah, I could help but I'll probably kill her because, ya know, crazy, so..."

[@Moda-pf8wt]

To be fair, he is an ex-hitman. Of course he's going to go into "killing mode" whenever he fights Shadows. That was his way of showing mercy.

[@ejelecflametails6657]

Basically if Hubert wanted to help me in the Crimson Flower route, but is reminded to go for non lethal actions.

[@slasherzproductions77]

@@ejelecflametails6657 yup and hurbet goes to kill mode when you don't choose to join eldargrad to fight the church

[@bessieburnet9816]

@@ejelecflametails6657 Yes!!

[@jacen884]

And then after joker wins for the first part he poses with a fighting stance while saying "looks like you lost" I'm like akechi bruh you didn't do shit! You're cool but this ain't your time to look cool!

[@KAIsibs]

Crow: Payback time! Futaba: Crow’s up again! It’s payback time! Crow: I just said that!

[@Maartun]

13:41

[@catarathegato1240]

Maruki: ngh

[@Oreca2005]

Honestly it’s funny how futaba repeats anything akechi said before the quote plays out

[@nuggzz3721]

P5R basically just adds a new place where you pull a P4 and reach out to the truth with your homicidal detective and friends

[@TheREALHugo4]

This is another version of persona 4 golden was but with the p5 setup.

[@daniellevymoreno1141]

I get what you are saying but I don't totally agree. I think there is nothing in P4G that is as compelling as the third semester in P5R, the conflict it's not just to live in blissful ignorance or seek and accept the truth, but it's actually more of a continuation of "Chaos vs Lawful" themes of the vanilla game. If Joker accepts Maruki's deal, then he is just given up control of everything, even his reality, to someone else (Just like the masses where given up their will to the Holy-Grail in vanilla), if he rejects Marukis deal, then he has to decide for himself what reality is, what is right and wrong (essentially, justice). That's what I think is different from P4G, Joker's rejection of Maruki's reality doesn't imply that he will obtain some sort of truth, but just a chance to maybe insert his will into the world the way he sees fit, it's also why I think its better than P4G, because there is a lot of moral ambiguity in the decision itself, and I could see people siding with either side of the argument. P.S: Don't wanna come across as if I don't like P4G, it has other strengths over P5R, I just think P5R is such a step up storywise...

[@WhoisthisguyN]

Daniel Levy Moreno This. While I did enjoy the Marie Dungeon, it definitely isn’t as complex and expansive as Maruki’s Palace

[@michaeljames6737]

@@daniellevymoreno1141 i wonder what p6 will be im thinking of peace or violence

[@sonicj.shadow5072]

@@daniellevymoreno1141 Well half of what you said i agree except the part of insert his will into the world the way he sees fit....if he's accept offer mean that new reality will be what he's see fit as well since he accept that reallity as what he want it to be not as Akechi prefer to finish it all. What true ending mean that everyone control there own faith(some people could say we got freedom) without facade reality so it's mean Joker and everyone will be free from any wish(mean Joker don't have anything control in reality) and just accept the world as it is and not live as what anyone wish is.....cause peoples have tendency to manipulate other. as you can see our world have fake new. the rich in control the power. peoples can't speak the truth anymore and everyone selfish in there desire. even Covid i'm not even sure is someone manipulate or incontrol lol people will wish for this for that. this game just call for us to be more consider what you are wishing for and that it and live on. it's similar between seeking the truth and accept reality .. but P4 concept is just seeking the truth and free the world. P5 will be kind of free the world to accept reality. i think that how it is may be i'm wrong but that how i see it.

[@riotmakerzeronine6761]

I need Akechi's Navigator Quotes right now.

[@equestrianmagic7337]

Same I need them too

[@Jd-ii3yb]

Me too

[@d3dnier398]

Here kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoOaaolveaiejM0

[@sparexcalibur]

Omfg lol

[@arsenelupin5808]

Hey great value version of me

[@edwardramos4591]

Having only heard him playing either nice guys or Ferdinand von Aegir, hearing Billy Kametz as a villain is a creepy kind of jarring.

[@5h3nn0ng]

If you think thats bad, try Naofumi with the Rage Shield

[@celestinebuendia]

“Nice guys OR Ferdinand von Aegir” Nice

[@jackofaces107]

Edward Ramos watch the demon slayer dub he voices the character rui, who’s a villain and he did a really good job portraying his creepiness

[@Sunny_Day8007]

Josuke too

[@reilie9115]

It’s funny that Hubert is our ally too

[@Chaaderbox]

Who knew royal made me like Akechi

[@Emmse12345]

He's really scary though, but I like it a lot

[@peynnep6483]

made Black suit Akechi more approachable

[@I_Eated_The_Soap]

i hated him in vanilla, but he’s one of the best written characters in royal

[@chromso]

@@I_Eated_The_Soap he was so underdeveloped in vanilla, he seemed bad because he was evil and bad and evil and edgy and bad but here he actually has motivation

[@JapanFreak2595]

chromso that and he’s just behaving like himself without any of the pretense.

[@sergentpugsley5137]

As soon as rivers in a desert started playing, shit just got real

[@pokenuz4084]

Doom Slayer as soon as doom gate started playing, shit got real

[@yamimayonnaise5378]

I hate it how overused it is in p5r. It was bad enough in p5

[@ayyxd34]

@@yamimayonnaise5378 it plays in like 3-4 battles what are you talking about

[@ayyxd34]

@Flash Cannon and the Grail fight

[@aurasphere6125]

@@ayyxd34 6 times actually

[@Artoria-Simp]

Sumire:"I will stop you" Joker:Miryad truths go brrrr

[@azcatec.]

Y U P

[@DonVito703]

ALL WILL BE REVEALED

[@00yiggdrasill00]

​@@DonVito703that's actually a really interesting line given the situation. Joker is literally dragging sumire out of the lie she begged for and showing her that yes she can face it, and to simply bury it is to bury just how much her sister loved and admired her. And that while it's painful, kasumi made her decision willingly without any hesitation at all.

[@Gigi_Axolotl]

@@DonVito703 BY THE MYRIAD TRUTHS

[@federicovazquez9011]

So cendrillon is based on the fairytale Cinderella, at the end of her defeat. They way she references to bell tolls and midnight

[@pokefan7446]

Plus, before the battle begins, she says "I don’t want to go back to my life in cinders", referencing the fact that she was essentially used as a slave by her mother and step-sisters in her house and was called "Cinderella" because of how often she'd be covered in cinders after cleaning the fireplace.

[@AlexTheRed1985]

Cendrillon is the name of Cinderella in French. So yeah...

[@pokefan7446]

AlexTheRed1985 Oh, that’s why she's called that. I thought it was just some strange thing with copyright that meant they couldn’t use "Cinderella". I suppose it does make more sense to use her original name.

[@AlexTheRed1985]

Pokéfan 744 I like small details like this. This game is such a masterpiece

[@TaoOfTheFist]

Does that make Joker her Prince Charming?

[@TVHead003]

I find it interesting that he was able to hijack her persona like that. We have seen cases of a persona going berserk, but it was as if he was able to give the persona an identity of its own and then direct its rage at us

[@mystery8820]

That felt no different than in P4 where Shadow selves were denied by their originals and they became themselves and not part of them. Those “you’re not me” moments.

[@demi-femme4821]

Honestly, how hard it was to use Azathoth to separate Cendrillon from Sumire and turn into a Medea scenario is hard to tell.

[@mystery8820]

@@demi-femme4821 Plus in the Persona 3 movies, there were moments where if a Persona-user had tinges of self-doubt, their own Persona either goes wild, or tries to kill them. It happened to Shinjiro, Chidori, and even Yukari.

[@veila0924]

Well Personas in this game are merely a reflection of themselves. Cendrillion IS Sumi (Kasumi most likely, as I feel her rank 10 awakening is Summer's true persona).

[@shin_eightysix]

I just realized this. Joker denies Maruki's reality, right? Then Akechi shouldn't be here in that case. But here's the thing. Joker denies this, but Akechi is still here. So with no one really realizing, this Akechi right here is our Akechi.

[@Moda-pf8wt]

Yes! I'm glad that you pointed this out, because a lot of people think Akechi here is fake, when he's actually real.

[@Jack_Frost526]

@@Moda-pf8wt except he disappears when the palace gets shut down, along with all the other fakes

[@Moda-pf8wt]

@@Jack_Frost526 He should have disappeared once Joker refused to accept it, but he didn't. Also, the true ending hints at his survival.

[@TheSwordGuyFromBrazil]

Moda1106 well actually In the true ending he’s alive

[@shin_eightysix]

@@Jack_Frost526 they're not fakes. Dr. Maruki literally rewrote the events so that all those that have died would still be alive. So in a sense, Dr. Maruki revived them. Except for Akechi who didn't evenly disappear when Joker refused Dr. Maruki's reality. So Akechi is really alive and not dead.

[@TheGhostOfTK]

This guy is much different than any past persona enemies, he tries so hard to avoid fighting them, but he knows you can't change Jokers mind and he's the leader, but he doesn't want to act like kamoshidas shadow, he doesn't want to fight them, but if it comes to it, he wants a fair fight, and has the ability to not make people go berserk, but worse their own persona, this guy is imo an stier persona antagonist, also keep in mind he literally warped reality as a whole, and the only ones who know anything about it are wild card users, and even their minds can become distorted as seen in akechi in the fake reality ending, and as we know he could easily kill joker completely, he just doesn't want to m

[@Grima-su6os]

What I find most scary about him is the fact he can make a persona go from the looks of it completely berserk, and apparently make them stay alive for a darn long amount of time if they eat other Shadows. What would happen if he somehow did that to Akechi or Joker? No good, that I'm sure.

[@dynaco4_homebase594]

King Crazy not to be rude but adatchi or however you spell it from persona 4 seems a lot more scary to me since he kills because he feels like he is too good for his position and pushing people into the tv and watching people suffer and he also represents what the protagonist would be like without friends since which is proven by his persona or shadow being your persona but the color scheme being inverted

[@theonewho...1298]

@@Grima-su6os well considering Akechi can himself and others go berserk. Probably the same thing with his victims now I'm wondering if Azathoth knocked Sumire out so she wouldn't start lashing out like Akechi does for his showtime?

[@stingerredshock3418]

Adachi wasn't as powerful as Maruki though. Maruki can literally warp the real world from head to toes.

[@pforgottonsoul]

@@stingerredshock3418 to be fair though Maruki isn't really supposed to be scary, just an opponent that is hard to deal with.

[@TaeSunWoo]

I had Kaguya Picaro with repel physical and Sumi kept spamming Sword Dance at me. :/ I literally just stood there guarding and like “pls stop, you’re only hurting yourself”

[@syarifzaki1878]

Wow that's a whole different meaning of denying the reality she did all this time

[@DriedPlanet]

I kept tanking them and charging sword dances of my own like well okay you asked for it

[@kd3thedrawinggamer880]

SAME she literally killed herself in her own desperation that was so tragic to see

[@dagothur5813]

This game just becomes an interactive action movie at this point.

[@vahe7422]

Yeah but after this it goes back to normal, kinda like how Kamoshida's palace has you constantly going in and out during the first few times

[@catarathegato1240]

Thank you Haru Fricker350

[@Ofallthings089]

That’s just the game.

[@jjvalnv01]

And I love it

[@ShinyUmbreon106]

Yea but is that so bad?

[@toddhoward841]

did ryuji just take a vorpal blade to the face?

[@psl6145]

What a badass. Best bro.

[@suminaoshinjo6545]

Yes and at the same time took no damage too

[@kamataro1482]

Apparently his PQ2-exclusive skill Line Guard carried over to P5R in-universe, because that's basically what he did.

[@matiasaguayo3175]

@@kamataro1482 So Q2 is canon then, lol

[@rayyanhabeeb3665]

@@matiasaguayo3175 P5R is non cannon .-.

[@lightly5363]

In a nutshell: Sumire: i'm bad Joker: no Sumire: persona

[@DJAX-THE-ONE]

Pretty much

[@C-MENP3N15]

*peesona

[@wanderingtyphlosion7332]

14:23 They only came back to level up is what it seems.

[@slasherzproductions77]

Ya i was thinking the same thing i was like these people had the guts to come help 2 wild cards for that leave up

[@Mikura39]

The Joker vs Sumire fight was more heartbreaking than I thought... Hearing her say "Don't make me do this..." really tugs my heartstrings. Imagine this scene in anime form with Joker actually talking... If I ever get to see Joker holding back his strength and trying to talk some sense into Sumire animated, I don't think my heart could take it...

[@SulphurMind]

Alm Vs Celica in a nutshell

[@skytheidiott]

Meanwhile I’m over here Debilitating her with Michael Charged and Powered up ready to Sword Dance

[@shin_eightysix]

Uh, but A-1 Pictures should not do it. Because P5A sucked because of that.

[@rabidmangoose]

Wow you made feel bad, i just destroyed her with my Alice

[@matiasaguayo3175]

Hopefully, if they make a Persona 5: The Royal Animation, they won't screw it up as they did with P5 The Animation.

[@mrex666productions7]

Is it me or this whole boss encounter just disturbs me more than anything in the game? The tentacle/adhesive device thing doesn't turn me on at all. (I know people do here.)

[@FazPersona]

Yeah i get what you mean

[@felixma9192]

Dude people get turned on by that?

[@mrex666productions7]

@@felixma9192 Yes, but it's contextually bad in this case. The only good thing is that it seems like Maruki is just trying to say "Snap her out if you can because you did it to the other 7 guys" instead of actually trying to kill you. BTW if that were a real persona (It isn't) she might die because if it was he's killing her Shadow, pretty sure he knows that ripping that off lets you snap her out instead because he just killed the overlay.

[@toddhoward841]

i dont think it turns anyone on i think people are just memeing it because of tentacle hentai

[@mrex666productions7]

@@toddhoward841 That's not even what I think, I think of it as just disturbingly weird in a different way. (It's the same feeling from Persona Q2's Yosukesaurus fight)

[@GrandmasterOshawott]

Wow, big claps for the amount of effort they put in. They went ahead gave Sumire special "Vs. Joker" quotes despite going to be only used once.

[@donnie1774]

They did that with akechi in his rank 8 too.

[@equestrianmagic7337]

I Kinda Feel Like Ryuji Actually Understands Akechi a littie in 3rd semester

[@fierytigergaming8112]

Well yeah, Ryuji even said after Akechi's defeat "Dude, you're more than special"

[@Moda-pf8wt]

@@fierytigergaming8112 Ryuji is one of the only PTs who actually made an effort to understand Goro and tries to include him in the group. I like Ryuji way more now because of that: He really tries his best to understand others.

[@pforgottonsoul]

@@Moda-pf8wt yes but no when they first met Ryuji absolutely hated him just because he took a stance against the phantom thieves which kinda pissed me off honestly.

[@Moda-pf8wt]

@@pforgottonsoul I was angry about that as well! Although, P5R made me like him instead of me staying neutral about him. He became better over the time and that's what counts for me!

[@todorokipicturebutitsusedb6756]

Then there should’ve been a showtime with them

[@SteelSpurs]

Ryuji blocking the attack was already badass... Then they had to play Rivers, and from then on, I was screaming of happiness

[@kartikayysola]

Ryuji is my fuckin BOY.

[@Luffy20081]

This is why Ryuji/Skull is my go-to phantom theif. Mona is jealous, that's why he said that soon after.

[@the_sarcatic_city1150]

I like how our first friend we met was ryugi and we save his life in kamoshidas palace by awakening to our persona but now he saved us

[@basilplushie2534]

So are we forgetting that ship palace

[@djcooper1061]

"Our Leader been through shit cause of you- ITS ON!" -Ryuji to Shido

[@Laced_With_Acid]

@@djcooper1061 a real g!! i love ryuji sm

[@NotSoNormalSquirtle]

Ryugi

[@potabanomaybe5629]

Hmm.. rejecting the truth. I sense a lack of fog in the area.

[@yurikuki]

Maruki reminds me of Aizen of Bleach esp when he slicks his hair back and removes his glasses

[@ignatiusloyolamulti1186]

I'm glad i'm not alone.

[@TheAniSi]

Oh god don’t tell me this was part of Aizen’s plan too?

[@averagechannelname9969]

Oh god no!

[@suminaoshinjo6545]

@@ignatiusloyolamulti1186 same

[@jessepeterson6694]

Oh great first we have a light yagami imposter and now aizen is being referenced in maruki? I'm convinced that atlus has a boner for shonen jump.

[@RedKnight8333]

Ryuji saves the day again

[@mrex666productions7]

Actually I think Morgana made a part too, because when the protag thinks about those scenes, the one with Morgana is the only one where he's reconsidering, the rest just show how happy they are, and then after this the game gives you the option to choose.

[@nathanreifan452]

@@crossbuster4192 that's effin right

[@Reevro]

vorporal blade Severe physical damage to ALL FOES

[@roccotherayquaza2468]

It’s weird to hear a Persona to hold a full sentence with other people other than their user.

[@sarthakarora3212]

You never played smt? They are actual demons made from people.

[@roccotherayquaza2468]

sarthak arora oh!

[@lexicus1275]

@@sarthakarora3212 No. SMT Demons and Personas (except the "generic" personas you fuse/recruit) are very much not the same thing at all.

[@kamataro1482]

@@lexicus1275 Persona has its own set of 'Demons' which is where Personas take their image and powers from (this is a really obscure fact nobody seems to remember), but even Persona's Demons aren't the same as SMT's Demons.

[@clarinethro1695]

Metis said the The Answer that shadows and personas are basically the same thing. Shadows are the darkest reflections of the human heart and the side no one wants to see while the persona is facing your inner shadow and taming it. This is obv more present in P4 bc that was the whole awakening premise

[@popstarchamp]

11:10 One of Ryuji’s most awesome moments. They realized best bro deserved as much at least once.✊🏿

[@jj_grabes]

Ryuji: we gotta save her, right joker? Me: *you’re goddamn right.*

[@TheElementsAreWithMe]

I knew out of all of Skill was more of the tank, but to take a blast like that practically unscathed, what little respect I had for him increased ten fold.

[@Moda-pf8wt]

Skull in P5R is amazing.

[@Kortegard0341]

@@Moda-pf8wt Skull is amazing in general

[@cyberqueen7784]

You've definitely gotten a lot better at the game compared to 5 months ago. Not rushing as much and analyzing the situation more. Looking at Sumire's denial in English now, I can't help but feel even more sorry for her despite being harsh with her initially for being easily manipulated by Maruki. But then again, she did have PTSD from seeing the real Kasumi die in that car accident. Looking at this, it seems like she's easy to take down despite her amazing strength and agility. I'm sure Joker could have easily killed her if he wanted to, but was holding back enough to defend himself. He was still somewhat harsh with her to get the point across and make her stop. For my solo battle, maybe I should bring Abaddon, Rangda, or a Persona that absorbs or reflects physical attacks.

[@FazPersona]

Thank you :)

[@mrex666productions7]

She has Bless attacks too, but like quarter HP Shido she doesn't have a backdoor against anything.

[@cyberqueen7784]

@@mrex666productions7 I see. I do wonder, when fighting solo against her as Joker, would Curse attacks work against her in terms of weakness? I remember Cendrillon is weak against Curse.

[@mrex666productions7]

@@cyberqueen7784 None of the targets bar the Biyarky have weaknesses. Also you can down Cendrillon with physical but you can't AOA because something else is in your way. (I think Maruki because he does attack)

[@cyberqueen7784]

@@mrex666productions7 Makes sense because there was no Hold Up after Cendrillon was down. From the other videos so far, the Biyarky are immune to wind and fire, but are weak against ice, correct?

[@eclecticspaghetti]

I remember before I played Royal I was thinking to myself: “Man, it would be so cool if the third semester had a unique and emotional boss fight that takes place before the actual new final boss. That would be amazing... but it would never happen.” I love being wrong.

[@theanomaly_10]

Sumire: Don’t make me do this. Maxed out Jack Frost: I’m sorry, did you hear something?

[@muhammadazrafbinmohdakmam4772]

she legit thinks she can even scratch joker lol

[@instantpurple1282]

“Hee-Ho! Mother fu-“

[@TheDracolordian]

The cries of hee-hoo

[@madkoala2130]

Ok, kudos to you for managing maxing out level 12 persona.

[@funkinfunkhead.]

​@@madkoala2130Reaper farm

[@TuanAnhNguyen-en9bx]

You know it's getting better when the music begins to get lyrics

[@dracodancer3262]

"Please Dont Do This To Me"!! That desperation in her voice, god it's so powerful. She's so conflicted, she needs a hug damnit!

[@peynnep6483]

hugs, headpats, encouragement

[@mystery8820]

Your Everyday Protagonist #HugSumire

[@masterchiefpettyofficerspa3646]

I feel bad for her past but she really needed to embrace who she is rather than live in a lie.

[@mystery8820]

Master Chief Petty Officer Spartan John-117 Is it worse, in terms of how it affects Sumi personally, than with Marie in Persona 4 Golden, or Labrys from Persona 4 Arena?

[@masterchiefpettyofficerspa3646]

@@mystery8820 I'd say Sumire because at least the other two didn't indirectly cause someone else's death.

[@bessieburnet9816]

Oh my God, her Persona! That's really creepy! But it really cements the fact that Personas are meant to be another person inside you. Another you.

[@Mark-tq7bf]

Yeah is not like someone made that already in the past. . .*Coff* Nanjo *Coff*

[@luckye4943]

akechi was savage dude

[@accountan0nymous284]

When Ryuji came in and Rivers In The Desert started playing... DAYUM awesome

[@vedji1857]

Maruki's palace is absolutely gorgeous

[@peynnep6483]

that's the point, it's this supposed Heavenly paradise, heck his treasure is in the Garden of Adam and Eve

[@destroyerblackdragon]

Why is it in a stadium though? Isn't a palace suppose to be in a place a person thinks about frequently?

[@vedji1857]

@@destroyerblackdragon The stadium is being torn down into a Cognitive Research Centre (The Cognitive Laboratory) by Maruki, but construction of it was stopped due to the fundraising being halted.

[@enderwolf4260]

Especially the Rainbow garden maze.

[@mystery8820]

@@vedji1857 Actually, I think it’s the other way around. The construction site was originally supposed to be a lab, but due to the influence of a certain individual, that plan was halted and a stadium was to be constructed instead.

[@Ausholliday15]

I feel robbie was channeling ardyn with akechi in this phase of the game.

[@caramelcamelgreengrenade8259]

This is giving me some episode prompto energy for some reason

[@mystery8820]

After seeing this scene so many times, I came to the conclusion that Sumire wanted to live a lie because Doc ENABLED her depressed state. Meaning she never chose at all, he chose for her.

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

Yeah he pretty much says as much. The Doc's apparently the best way he can save his patience is by having them escape their problems rather than strive to overcome them. He sees pain he removes it, luckily he has his reasons which make for an interesting story.

[@mystery8820]

@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective All of that… because of terrible circumstances beyond his control. Not to mention his research being unaccepted by academia out of nowhere, just when he was making progress (that moment was within someone else’s control, a certain bald man). And now, he genuinely wants to live a life where bad things never happen, and his inability to grieve is bleeding out in his sessions.

[@mystery8820]

Maruki: Sadly she has lost sight of herself, she’s in pain... Me: Because you’re making it worse. Maruki: ...now, be her guide, and together, escape from the nightmare! Me: YOU are the true living nightmare, Doc.

[@DLxxx]

Facts. He literally retraumatized in her in the worse way possible by showing her that video, and asks her to choose his reality while she's still recoiling from her broken mental state. He knew *full well* she'd never be able to give a rational answer in that state of mind, but still pressed her about it in order to convince the others to submit to him. It's absolutely self-serving, whether he intends it to be or not. And even after seeing how detrimental putting her into this position was, he still proceeded to drive both Sumire AND her persona (the only part of her that was somewhat able to realize the truth early on) mad enough to try and kill her only friends. Just look at her in this scene. She's completely unhinged and clearly just needs time to cope with her feelings, yet when Joker finally gets her to calm down a bit, Maruki steps in and proceeds to give her more of his twisted "help" when she even ask for it. Essentially encouraging to continue going forth and trying and kill her friends..

[@mystery8820]

@@DLxxx As much as it gave Sumi time, that actualization had a very dangerous side effect: If that person needs to grieve, they can’t grieve because they literally can’t remember. Thoughtbubble’s video on the “counseling” session with Sumire and Maruki kinda puts my words in a well-placed manner. Try to see it if you get the chance. Here is the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2ndaKutoap5fas Also, if Doc were a good counselor, he’d give Sumi the chance to answer one month after the truth was revealed. But Doc’s inability to deal with sorrow was getting in the way of that and sees running away from pain as THE end all be all solution to EVERYTHING. It sounds nice at first glance, but our senses would dull and when crap REALLY does hit the fan, our wills would be non-existent, we’d be so dependent on those happy “realities” that we are unable to adapt for anything at all.

[@mystery8820]

@@DLxxx Also, if this scene was inproved in anime form (if done right), Joker, in a unusual fit of rage, would try to rush at Maruki. And Akechi, despite being a beast who unleashes his fury, is the one to calm Joker down. Joker would also cut apart the tentacles in order to separate Sumire from them and stop Cendrillon’s rampage (Maruki can’t control other Persona’s if he doesn’t have a Persona-user in his grasp). Just like when Narukami rushed at Kuni-no-Sagiri in Persona 4: The Animation when Nanako was kidnapped.

[@juancruzchandiaakanoobsaib7193]

I remember when i fighted her i didn't want to hurt her because my persona was super broken and was imnune to all of her attacks so i just guard and i thought something different would happen if i didn't hurt her ,but after 3 turns nothing happened so i just threw 2 charged amplified megidolaons at her and made me feel awful

[@dkmow706]

I kinda thought they would auto put Ryuji into your party.

[@RedfurredPikachu]

Whoever was in your party last get's dropped for Akechi, fine by me since I wanted Joker, Morgana, Akechi, and Makoto anyways before Kasumi joined.

[@IDontReallyWantAYoutubeHandle]

RedfurredPikachu Are you sure? Ryuji and Morgana got dropped into my party despite the fact I haven't used Morgana since Kaneshiro and Ryuji since Kamoshida fhfjdhdhs

[@RedfurredPikachu]

@@IDontReallyWantAKZbinHandle Of course I am, Morgana's a healer and he's a sword guy. Also despite what people are saying I've seen him take some pretty hard hits and still not die. Also I'm fond of cute litte guys like him, I'll have my badass warriors but it's so fun to see a charachter like Morgana be able to equally keep up with those warriors. Makoto's great as both a backup healer and she can raise defense which is super helpful. No matter what those two never left my party except when they were forced too. I swapped out Makoto for Kasumi for this last palace only because I like to try out the new members of the party and because she does'nt get to join for the main story means this is the only chance I'll get to use her same goes for Akechi. To be honest I'm still a little worried this will bite me in the ass not having Makoto there for the bosses but Akechi can lower an enemies attack and defense.

[@linkheroofspiritsakatrains4812]

dk mow same I guess it’s just because he’s always in mine

[@alexanderinoa7850]

RedfurredPikachu I don’t think so, I had Morgana and Yusuke put into my party but I never use Morgana, since I get rid of him as soon as I get Makoto and hadn’t used him since Madarame, and I hadn’t used Yusuke since Nijima’s palace, so it probably is random.

[@brandonecklor]

11:10 rivers in the desert song and love when Ryuji came

[@spacepenguin3590]

Skull's entrance is so effing BADASS! Especially with Rivers in the desert playing.

[@fantasyshadows3207]

honestly the lines delivered by Maruki sound like a what a normal hero would say to the villain, like the music and situation make it dark and he's the villain but the way he tries to help, doesn't really want to hurt Sumire, wants to give everyone a happy ending and his tone, his kind tone make it sound like the protagonist trying to help convince the villain not to hurt more people. And honestly, it gives a feeling of unsettleness and awesomeness like, DUDE its perfect

[@Alex-yg1rm]

7:51 "reality can be how I want"

[@Kortegard0341]

I reject your reality and substitute my own

[@Alex-yg1rm]

NO U

[@SoraSkyAtic]

4:03 no you aren't akechi, you're just scared since you're weak to bless attack.

[@ItsDanbo]

Sumire: let me live a kasumi Akechi: screw you woman, I’m literally gonna die if I stop maruki, stop whining

[@elianwilliams]

I knew it was coming (not jumping on the Persona train until 2 weeks ago does that to you) but man this fight hurt especially when Sumire is here pouring her heart out begging you not to make her live blaming herself for what happened to Kasumi

[@gajaan316]

The fight between Ren and Sumire really just hurts me every time I attack, especially when she says stuff in that desperate tone......

[@masterchiefpettyofficerspa3646]

I see why she's upset but life doesn't always go as planned. That's why there's both good and evil. To prepare you for both. Getting rid of one leads to stagnation.

[@enriquepowers]

One of the reasons why I can’t accept Maruki’s reality is because you’re going to “kill” Sumire. I didn’t really want to fight her so I just used Tetrakarn.

[@fierytigergaming8112]

Especially the fact that you can see from her face that she was emotionally and mentally broken

[@lsebastian9086]

Ill apologize for the long comment but....to confirman this was one of the heartbreaking fights than there was Ren was jsut fresh from the last encounters way back since the palace of Shido and the aftermaths. Between reclaiming control, the betrayals and manipulations things could had taken a toll only for another painful truth to be revealed. But unlike the previous encounters...he was virtually alone. All his friends are happily living in an utopia....yet he knew than it was not the best way and onyl ally at the moment, was the harsh detective who while having complicated deals, it was his harsh but needed way that was necessary to figure out the enigma. I feel taht deep down, Ren wasnt taking lpeasure in having to give those reminders and would had expected a fight with anyone on his ursue those truths....it didnt mean he was wanting that. And while not knowing full details on SUmire...he still did not want to hurt someone who he felt was very caring and concerned off his behalf..tereating him with respect and being so friendly...it was one of those fights he would not show his usual confidence, charm or even wrath but...a plea. NOt that Sumire has it easy. For what coul be like nearly a year she was acting like someone else..out of her own fear and sadness taht her own self is so meaningless that no one would had noticed or cared if she was gone and the guilt and sorrow over having costed the life off someone she cared. So big is her sorrow that she thinks the senpai she cares so much, is determined to bring her back to the normal deal because he wants to do what is right..yet a mix of guilt, self anger and a desperate heartache made her loose control...and if it wasnt for the timely intevention from Ryuji or tackup....she nearly commited a mistake that would had been just as big as her tragedy.... While major damages were avoided...it is very clear neither wanted to fight the other.....but Ren needed to do what had to be done if he wanted to save someone..even if he would had been forced to hold back or take the toughest decitions.

[@WickedFluffy]

"Now, be her guide...and together, escape from the nightmare!" Honestly my favorite line in the entirety of the third semester, I love Maruki as a villain since he definitely feels less like he's doing it selfishly and doing it as an act he truly believes would benefit all of society.

[@brandonecklor]

Akechi: here it comes Ryuji: I DON'T THINK SO *blocks attack*

[@jokerstyle6276]

11:09 Probably one of the best scenes I've seen. Best boi protecting with rivers in the desert playing, that sent a chill down my spine!!!

[@patricktannaka1961]

I want HAVE bestfriend like Ryuji Sakamoto... He will come no matter what when his buddy having trouble... Even he secrifice himself... Wow... Salute...

[@mistahjenkins4826]

I will not hesitate to mention... During the cutscene in which the other thieves come into the picture... Cendrillion launched a Vorpal Blade. And Ryuji took it without so much as a twinge of shakiness. He just took it, and was like "Yeah, nice try, fuckhead."

[@firecraft7032]

I sense the Hubert in Akechi lmao

[@storytsunami]

"...I'll hear your final decision on the 3rd. If your views can't align with mine by then, we'll have no other choice but a physical altercation. As much as I would loathe that, I still can't give up what I've started..." This was my favorite part of Maruki's farewell, but his parting words really got to me the first time I heard them. You can tell he doesn't want to fight, but he's hellbent on what he swore he'd do. I know it's been mentioned already in these comments, but I mainly just watched this video for those final lines.

[@sumirech1469]

"it ate the smaller one???" I like how Akechi is impressed with that, even more with the word "ate" instead of "absorb" what it make it pretty scary

[@BigMastah79]

WOAH MARUKI, I didn’t know you were into that kinda stuff.

[@ShadeShake]

Honestly I predicted Sumire would be a boss before we knew much about her.

[@daniellevymoreno1141]

The sign behind sumire says: "No fear, step forth into new possibilities". Kinda ironic since accepting Maruki's deal is the death of all their possibilities, beyond what Maruki has designed for them.

[@currentlybeingremade9706]

We got Jesus cross tentacle hentai scene-

[@WoomyBoomyGG]

Futaba's Awakening: am I a joke to you?

[@gahdamn630]

Futaba awakening didn’t have jesus

[@tokie4199]

I love how Akechi drops his cool detached act for a second at 7:28 and is just genuinely upset on someone else's behalf. Even though Sumire spends most of the infiltration as a liability, he never once suggests bailing on her, and while he'd obviously rationalize it as needing manpower or knowing Joker would never agree to it, deep down, he sees a fellow victim and wants to help her. It's a shame the trio plotline just ends here, I would've liked a scene of Sumire thanking Akechi and seeing him having to process receiving heartfelt gratitude.

[@shadowstriker6506]

Something to note is that Maruki made Sumire THINK she was Kasume. but because that was her wish, he doesn’t consider that it might be better for him to revive the real Kasume despite having the power to do so now. Really shows how shallow he is in his wish granting imo. Not to mention the clearly unhealthily lengths she goes to ‘become’ Kasume again.

[@fierytigergaming8112]

Especially since he revived both Wakaba, and Haru's father

[@Jimmeeehhh]

That's the idea. He prioritizes removing pain above all else. He realized if he brought Kasumi back to life, Sumire would once again constantly feel inferior, which would cause her a great deal of pain. Remember that his desires have become distorted, which led him to his destructive idea of salvation.

[@Alex-yg1rm]

6:36 the animation is incredible

[@bigkingkill9026]

I have to say never felt so conflicted about a choice in a game I choice the right choice for the true ending but man made me really think what I would really choose if I were in jokers shoes

[@Progamer-vz8hd]

Maruki became Izanami (Japanese goddess of the underworld (P4 true final boss))but he doesn’t even realize it he basically becomes the wish maker and doesn’t know it but to be honest that’s what makes him scarier

[@O_Obsidious]

Bro, that shot of the camera panning up at Ryuji as Rivers in the Desert plays. CHILLS.

[@dynaco4_homebase594]

I just realized that the two new characters in persona 5 Royale are Marie the Maruki is the boss form of Marie where it wants to hide from the truth and Sumire is Marie before and after the boss fight in the hallow forest

[@haz_au2918]

When i was up to this boss fight i was just laughing that Kasumi thought she'd win against Joker and Akechi in a fight, Akechi knew he would destroy so he didn't fight because she definitely would of died

[@Moda-pf8wt]

That's why he opted out of the fight. He knew that Joker doesn't want her dead, so he left it up to Joker.

[@Mikura39]

Keep in mind: She doesn't even have that much health compared to most short boss fights. My theory is that Joker is holding back his strength and is only focusing on snapping her out.

[@kartikayysola]

@@Mikura39 That and perhaps she's not quite as strong as she could be because she's still pretending to be 'Kasumi' rather than embrace who she really is.

[@brianvaira486]

I think Maruki is the best villain in the game. He’s the only palace ruler (except for Futaba) that isn’t completely evil and is actually sympathetic.

[@talentroller4413]

is he really a villain though?

[@matthewmuir8884]

Sae was also a sympathetic palace ruler.

[@SlimReaper04]

I just noticed, at 2:55 the butterfly (presumably either Philemon or Lavenza), appears after Joker denies Maruki's offer. It could be Philemon overseeing Joker's decision and the brief appearance at 2:55 most likely signify how please he is with Joker's choice. (P.S., if you don't know who Philemon is: he is a deity that created Igor and can also turn into a butterfly. He mostly appears in Persona 2).

[@hammy420]

ah yes, my favourite game Persons 5

[@josephnewsome2935]

I hated it when maruki forcefully took control of sumires persona he send he wasn’t hurting anyone but he clearly was and by the way why didn’t he help the new mementos requests

[@jj_grabes]

The stuff Maruki did to Sumire and the things she went through because of his “help” will cement him in my mind as a villain. You don’t just do that to people, let alone a suicidally depressed teenager.

[@LinkJTO]

They why for the mementos request, the group theorized that he couldn’t change everyone’s lives right away and needed time to take full control on the deadline

[@josephnewsome2935]

@@jj_grabes he was taking over her persona and was clearly hurting her if she said maruki please help before he did it it would work better

[@truedarkness4052]

@@jj_grabes He probably thought Sumire really wanted to beat Joker and the gang and gave her a power boost

[@affsteak3530]

This and his dismissal of Akechi's feelings regarding his own death really cemented Maruki as a villain to me.

[@X1erra]

I think it's the fact that our actions in this entire chapter is essentially the definition of morally grey area is why this third semester is so good. I just can't wrap my head around it, you know. Are we really glad that we have an effective cure for trauma? Sumire sure did. Anyone who had a PTSD in their lives, most likely too...

[@forgetfulcloud1914]

Are you referring specifically to Maruki's palace or the 3rd semester as a whole? I don't really think that moral grey instantly makes something better so I'd like to hear your thoughts.

[@X1erra]

@@forgetfulcloud1914 Well specifically Maruki's palace. I'm speaking it in terms of story arc. Anyway, my thoughts are this one in particular makes you really think about our lives and relate in a psychological form that's not bound by circumstance so it's good.

[@RedfurredPikachu]

@@forgetfulcloud1914 I really like it, it makes him a different villain from the others. He geuniunely believes he's helping people and does'nt understand why doing things like he does would be wrong. He's essentially forcing people to live a lie, the truth hurts but you need to face it or you'll never truly move on.

[@BitchChill]

Weeb

[@BLU.BL4CK]

"Thank you for coming." You're most welcome, Aizen. Although, I don't think Chair-sama is particularly fond of having a young redhead sitting in their lap. Best switch places before the tension grows even more stiff, yes?

[@marionpowell7068]

I can’t wait for this game to come out

[@danilog342]

First time in this fight I was with an Arsene with Swords Dance so we basically had a mirror match that made me very sad.

[@TheRenegadePlayer]

Sumire: I will stop you. My Joker with Satanael, Yoshitsune, I-N-O Picaro: Wanna bet?

[@superdogsam6230]

Ryuji coming in with the clutch was the best part of this fight.

[@connorcampbell-bisson8721]

6:32 ...This part irked me when I got to it. Something didn't feel right about how he went about it all. Made me feel like he was more trying to guilt-trip Joker rather than try to help. And honestly, that was the feeling I got from him from the moment the third semester began, to the point where I legitimately think the only reason he didn't overwrite Joker's cognition was because he wanted Joker to admit he's right, and now whenever I see that moment I can't help but think "You're exacerbating her issues, some of which you outright caused, to prove a point?" ...So, at the end of it all, I think I actually kinda hated him. Anyone else feel like that?

[@Athrun82]

Maruki did overwrite joker's cognition. Remember when Joker dreamt of the school and he had his prisoner clothing on again? He was imprisoned but his will to "go home" managed to let him break free. And I think that Maruki actually wanted to help Joker as thanks for Joker's accidental help in mentioning Mementos which made Maruki's work possible in the first place. Not to mention what Joker went through to get to this point. Tbh I thought that Kasumi would be the one to break Joker out the matrix but Joker managed again on his own. that's the wild card of rebellion for you

[@michaeljames6737]

the way she said doctor was weird

[@Sao0011]

Sumire : Please...don't try to stop me *Akechi turns to Joker * Akechi : Nah , not my problem. Hey dude , I leave this on you since she is your girlfriend Joker : wait wha Akechi : Also make sure you give her a VERY GOOD Time all right? Joker : Nani Also Joker : I guess I prefer Sumire long hair instead of Ponytail.

[@external13]

Seeing akechi (crow) helping the phantom thieves makes me want to see him more 😞

[@Nexus7_]

Loved that fight. Can’t wait to see more from you!👀

[@TheNawaf258]

Oh wait spoiler alert for those who haven’t reached or didn’t own it do not watch this video comeback when you already finished it

[@shin_eightysix]

No need for me. I already finished JP version

[@bigkingkill9026]

You could tell even for a boss fight that joker was holding back the entire time he could have easily defeated her right then and there but he didn’t because he wanted her to realize living in this reality is running from the truth

[@jackychen8143]

i hope the creators will make a Persona 5 Royal Anime soon

[@mystery8820]

If it did, it would be the story of the Leader, the Traitor, and the Rejector.

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

They will. It’s bound to happen at some point. I doubt it’ll be great though

[@mystery8820]

Alibaba I know. A-1 is definitely known for going less than required quotas in adaptations. Especially game adaptations.

[@mystery8820]

Alibaba There is something I’d like to add in the adaptation. Foreshadowing events that say that Sumi is not who she claims to be, that the people around find her deluded. We (the audience) see the effects of Maruki’s power overriding Sumi’s cognition just to ensure she doesn’t enter a depressive fit of rage. Why not have Maruki intervene and give a slight overdose of his power to Sumi as an act of impulse. Plus a flashback/album of the Yoshizawa siblings when they were still practicing or when they were kids.

[@casuallyYT]

lets just hope its better than the base anime

[@xecillmaze4740]

So the extra content in the royal is basically Maruki taking notes from Maki.

[@masterchiefpettyofficerspa3646]

About time someone mentioned Persona 1.

[@kueyteow6288]

Jesus. That was freaking messed up.

[@mysticpebbles9652]

Joker and Akechi being alone on this part of the final palace gave me a vibe that I couldn't quite comprehend, but really love at the same time. Like the rival duo that ends up an unstoppable team. There's a way to better word this, but maybe I'll figure it out on my next second royal playthrough. all in all, I'm really glad that they completed Akechi's arc in this game, I felt robbed in vanilla, lol

[@enricofamoso3116]

The despair that she act looks like Xion to me.

[@dniwetamp]

who?

[@enricofamoso3116]

@@dniwetamp In Kingdom Hearts 3...

[@dniwetamp]

@@enricofamoso3116 don't remember any xion

[@enricofamoso3116]

Watch it, then. Avenge your..... your bed.

[@1010otep]

xion? who? i don't remember her from kh, only roxas and axel.

[@villanknight1237]

I feel like this might be overlooked but even though this is maruki’s palace ,he isn’t a shadow like the other rulers Other than the previous final boss

[@hal0dude7]

Man Ryuji's entrance is so fucking badass, the way Rivers in the Desert starts playing again as the camera pans up from the bottom.

[@5r4pu53]

I love that when joker fights with akechi alone, the soundtrack has no lyrics, and when the rest of the phantom thieves joined the fight, the lyrics came back

[@Ramo123ism]

Would have been cool if Akechi had used his actual special abilities. 1. He's a wild card, he should have had access to at least Robin Hood even though he says there's no need for the Prince Detective when they first walk in 2. What happened to his biggest thing? *Call of Chaos* would have been pretty awesome to see being used in Maruki's palace, maybe for some plot.

[@brandonsolomon7840]

Omar Castaneda call of chaos makes him go insane. If he went insane he’d forget about everything and just focus on killing everything he sees

[@Ramo123ism]

@@brandonsolomon7840 I'm saying it in the sense of using it on Shadows. If there were a lot of shadows in an area, turning a few psychotic would cause a bit of a distraction and leave places a bit loose while Maruki's shadows are busy dealing with multiple rampaging shadows tearing through the palace just causing mass chaos

[@mystery8820]

Brandon Solomon If Call of Chaos was a thing, it’d be like Aigis’ Orgia Mode, minus the cooldown time.

[@TheGhostbusterfan]

Turns out putting a round through a God's head with your friends. Makes a bond that no forces could change.

[@jotaroknuckles385]

6:52 I’ve seen enough hentai to know where this is going

[@connorpittman5341]

No wonder it's the research lab of sorrow I nearly cried 5 times.

[@BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989]

Oh man... the desperation in Kasumi/Sumire during the fight. Torn between harming a good friend and facing a great pain herself. Well Done. Just well done.