You mentioned the Wheeler fat wrench but didn't demonstrate it. Not liking it?
@craigtayntor48928 күн бұрын
Fat 28 piece kit to 80 insane for 65 bucks
@craigtayntor48928 күн бұрын
Park is all overpriced marketing bs.
@craigtayntor48928 күн бұрын
The topak all day metal cluth gears so good. It's like a good crisp audible break and reset on my 535 bad ass trigger
@craigtayntor48928 күн бұрын
John fantastic work brother. Warmest regards. Keep bringing da heat. 🥵 🔥
@hugoletkeman70493 жыл бұрын
The Vortex one is made by a company called FIRSTINFO. They make a identical model with a 10-90 inch pound scale that comes with the T-handle. It’s my go to.
@tpalshadow3 жыл бұрын
Wow, right now on Amazon if you add the FIRSTINFO one, and then there is a promotion to add a contour gauge for free. Go to your cart and there is a coupon you can clip. The total price for the torque wrench AND the contour gauge WITH tax was only 77. I'm not sure how that worked, but it did.
@CyprusTM3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Found it cheaper by 40$ here in Canada compared to the Vortex one.
@ronin2167 Жыл бұрын
And it comes with the T-handle. Thanks man!!!
@whodunit683 ай бұрын
Really,really, well done video.
@oldschooljack3479 Жыл бұрын
John, I know you did this video a year or more ago. But, thank you. I have been beating my head against the wall looking for a reasonably priced yet "dependable" torque screwdriver. You helped narrow my search.
@ronnydowdy74323 жыл бұрын
You have spent a lot of money to show us your likes and dislikes of these different toque types tools. I do appreciate your time and effort.
@FClassJohn3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I know what it's like shopping for this kind of stuff and what I'd want to know ahead of time.
@hardcore44762 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!! I’m shocked he doesn’t have over a thousand likes, really..
@ianm62042 жыл бұрын
The Vortex unit looks very similar to the one Lyman sell. It’s worth noting the Vortex comes with a very good no questions asked lifetime warranty as do most of their products.
@allthecommonsense3 жыл бұрын
33:57 FINALLY someone explains how to use this tool. Several other "tutorial" videos about it don't bother to explain the smaller numbers on the ring.
@hardcore44762 жыл бұрын
It’s like standard torque wrenches..
@allthecommonsense2 жыл бұрын
@@hardcore4476 your assumption being everyone everywhere has used a torque wrench before.
@hardcore44762 жыл бұрын
@@allthecommonsense Well like your name it’s should be common sense and knowing it’s adjustments on what torque setting you want it on in inch pounds. Normal torque wrenches are usually in Foot pounds.
@thriftysurvivor61179 ай бұрын
I know the Real Avid doesn't have a certification but I've seen it put to the test and even after 1,000 cycles it was one of the most accurate when tested on a calibrator. P.S. on that same video, many of the certified torque wrenches were no where near as accurate as the Real Avid.
@kownang Жыл бұрын
After searching and watching NUMEROUS videos, this is the ONLY one that described how to set a very specific setting. The Vortex is basically the exact same as the Nightforce brand which I have. I have never needed a torque screwdriver therefore never knew how to set the correct setting/limiter. Nightforce did not include directions on how to adjust it or what the numbers on the handle represent. For a price tag of $275 for their kit, they should have included instructions. This sort of information should NOT be this difficult to find so THANK YOU for your time and instructions! Great video.
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Thank you and I’m really glad the video was helpful.
@michaelthompson75702 жыл бұрын
Very timely,,just ordered the vortex!
@bad_vaporizer Жыл бұрын
I guessed with my hands for years. I decided to buy one. I bought the Avid. Thank you fpr the video though.
@scubaman22883 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for the great comparison. I’d love to see an accuracy test like you did in the first video for these wrenches as well.
@FClassJohn3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I could probably do that although just like last time it's pretty anecdotal since I'm testing against another unknown torque wrench and its calibration.
@scubaman22883 жыл бұрын
@@FClassJohn I think the repeatability is more important than accuracy to the real torque value. The repeatability of the fix it sticks was a big surprise and advantage. I thought your last test did a good job looking at the repeatability. Thanks again, I’m loving the videos!
@FClassJohn3 жыл бұрын
@@scubaman2288 Ok you convinced me. I'll bust out a test today showing their repeatability. 👍🏻
@scubaman22883 жыл бұрын
@@FClassJohn 👍👍 !!!
@Jeff_Seely2 жыл бұрын
I have always been a big fan of Proto. The Proto J6104A 1/4" Drive Torque Screwdriver is what I use for my guns and it is superb for what we do. Proto is USA made and it is not a cheap tool. I think I paid ~$350 for it but considering what some of us blow on reloading presses, scales, and annealers, it is comparatively inexpensive. It is the only one I ever need because it is well built, awesome warranty, and is easily calibrated. No space shuttles, no space stations, and no lander on mars, just a positive click that you can trust. It wouldn't surprise me if JPL doesn't have its share of Proto torque systems though😁.
@FClassJohn2 жыл бұрын
I looked it up and seems nice but it doesn't look like it goes high enough for my needs. I need something that can go up to at least 60in/lbs but as low at 10 in/lbs. But I'm glad you're happy with yours and thank you for sharing.
@craigtayntor48928 күн бұрын
Fat all day.
@Dwayne78343 жыл бұрын
Good review and video . Never had searched didn’t realize there was this many choices. Thanks for the information and video
@fackeyutub-emael654511 ай бұрын
Hehehe, I have noticed something about you. When you talk about something you like, your voice becomes higher pitched. 😂
@FClassJohn11 ай бұрын
Interesting. Thank you.
@tracy4050 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Your effort and the cost to you is appreciated. But I wonder about accuracy.
@PhuVet Жыл бұрын
The scar needs a 65inlb torque wrench. The barrel is 62inlb. Nm is the amount of force it takes to throw a given number of fig newton's. 10 nm is the amount of force it takes to throw a bag with 10 fig newton's a meter.
@jonweber53303 жыл бұрын
One of my rifle lights finger pad has a torque setting of 8 so the CDI seems like the better option. The other settings range in the 20's. I can probably get an individual fix it stick torque limiter for over 40 in/lb
@tonymarinelli73042 жыл бұрын
Excellent series! What I find interesting is that you simply cannot find a torque wrench or screwdriver in store at Home Depot or Lowe’s.
@FClassJohn2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The problem with store bought torque wrenches is that they typically don't go low enough (in/lb or NM) and are larger which isn't great for range bags or traveling.
@tonymarinelli73042 жыл бұрын
@@FClassJohn that makes sense, thank you
@hardcore44762 жыл бұрын
They also probably don’t sell that often beings there for very niche projects.
@chrisfisher39002 жыл бұрын
Fix it sticks are awesome but gets higher than 🦒🐈 buying all the bits and limiters
@hardcore44762 жыл бұрын
No doubt. I could really only see a baller or professional wanting to invest into something like this.
@l... Жыл бұрын
Thank you for chapters May you please record and upload full HD = 1080p
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome and I do 1080p now on my videos. This was an older one.
@JOESRQFLUSA3 ай бұрын
Space station sounds good 😂😂
@mongop177 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of this? I came across it on Amazon EPAuto Torque Screwdriver Wrench With Interchangeable Bits for Bike, Firearms 10 to 65 in-lbs
@1AFVeteran Жыл бұрын
Great video, and thank you! Saved me a lot of time researching! Noticed that Wheeler wasn't one you tested, reason?
@MTCKIE685 ай бұрын
Just my opinion. But I would trust the torque wrenches from auto industry tool makers over all of these. Most of those that are high quality are certified and are serviceable to recertification. These are definitely a "you get what you pay for tool."
@TonyArionАй бұрын
Hey John What tools do you use to change your barrels???
@FClassJohnАй бұрын
Currently using Short Action Customs modular action wrench and their barrel vise.
@rustypwnismo73843 жыл бұрын
The CDI/Snap-On wrench. The Snap-On price is around $229.00
@FClassJohn3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. That’s good to know. I’ll take a look.
@l... Жыл бұрын
14:57 breaker type
@freedomisntfree9525 Жыл бұрын
Good review. Thanks!
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful.
@Jeremy-uw1np2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@Rico11b3 жыл бұрын
I notice that there isn't a Wheeler torque wrench anywhere on the bench. That's very telling. :)
@FClassJohn3 жыл бұрын
Yeah people keep asking and I probably should’ve had one, but it is pretty much like the Neiko one I tested other than a longer neck on the Neiko.
@bryanbrown1788 Жыл бұрын
Needs a 85” screen for an in/lbs toque wrench! “but he has good eyes”?!?
@projet2907 Жыл бұрын
Did you make a follow up video with your choice ? Thank you for tris video :-0)
@FClassJohn Жыл бұрын
No I'm sorry I never did a follow up. After this video I stuck with the fix-it-sticks but I'm actually using the Borka Torque kit.
@silvosshop2 жыл бұрын
Nice job!
@robertwindeyer6343 жыл бұрын
Silly question , is the Vortex a rebranded utica? BTW love your clips from Australia Rob
@bayonne Жыл бұрын
I surprised you didn't test the Wheeler FAT Wrench. Almost all the airgun shops who perform service on the guns recommend it. The Manual Version.
@craigtayntor48928 күн бұрын
Just said that. As a guy who built class 6 at west point and restaurants from Texas 44 top brands. I know this stuff the fat with the 28 piece kit is a plus minus 2 straight driver . T it and 45 it for serious leverage for 65 bucks on Amazon. Done. Nuff said
@felixgarcia19802 жыл бұрын
inglés (EE.UU.) Great job. I'm looking for something and I think you and I are equally dumb. Thanks for the help. Brazil.
@VE9ASN3 жыл бұрын
Borka?
@FClassJohn3 жыл бұрын
Never used one and it's just not a design I'm interested in. I know there's people who like it so maybe if I ever do another torque test I'll get one just for fun.
@mrtdiver3 жыл бұрын
I bought the FIRSTINFO torque wrench after watching your excellent review. It's maybe where the Vortex comes from. From Amazon: FIRSTINFO Precision Certified Torque Limiting Limited Screwdriver Set, 1/4 Inch Universal Hex Bit Holder, 10-50 in-lbs with Screwdriver Bits & Bits Extension Bar & Extra T-Handle Anyways thank you John. Like you I don't really care for my Wheeler Fat wrench. But the Wheeler was popular when I first searched for a torque limiter. And that's what I ended up with.
@FClassJohn3 жыл бұрын
I"m glad the videos helped you make a decision. I don't think you'll be disappointed. It's definitely one of the ones I liked the best.
@scrooge81173 жыл бұрын
Vortex / King Tony
@mickyfitzko60243 жыл бұрын
why didnt you do the Capri Tools CP21075 ?
@FClassJohn3 жыл бұрын
It’s the exact same as the Vortex I reviewed so you can use that as a comparison.
@mickyfitzko60243 жыл бұрын
@@FClassJohn ty wasnt sure but i noticed they did appear similiar
@hardcore44762 жыл бұрын
Capri make some bad ass stuff! I can see why vortex went behind their steps..
@yuhaz2 жыл бұрын
thx
@hardcore44762 жыл бұрын
Great review! I was going to purchase the wheeler fat stick until I seen online reviews about the Real Avid and even gun smith’s say they like it much better the the Wheeler. This just confirmed my purchase! TU..
@FClassJohn2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped.
@glockparaastra3 жыл бұрын
Norbar make some quality products.
@FClassJohn3 жыл бұрын
I saw those and they looked like they would be really good but unfortunately the 1/4” drive only goes up to 5nm.
@o2wow3 жыл бұрын
Would a long allen wrench take the place of the Whia setting tool?
@FClassJohn3 жыл бұрын
Yeah possibly, I didn't think of that.
@o2wow3 жыл бұрын
@@FClassJohn if you tire of the Whia or the Vortex, I know willing buyer.
@jameshazeltine93463 жыл бұрын
History
@veilside180sx3 жыл бұрын
Vortex looks like a copy of a Wera
@DayBowBow2 жыл бұрын
22:14
@craigtayntor48928 күн бұрын
Get one that once set has a slip clutch and to hell with looking at windows ect ect ect. Dont metal gears my Milwaukee like all my cordless gear . Nothing touched Milwaukee. Hand tools F KLIEN KLIEN AND MORE KLIEN. TESTERS FLUKE FLUKE AND MORE FLUTE. AT WEST POINT ONLY THOSE 3 WERE ALLOWED. MIKE DROP
@Sagittariustoo2 жыл бұрын
You didn't include the best...Borka! I have Fat Wrench and Fix it Sticks but they're both a POS compared to Borka. I despise the fact that Fix it Sticks are not audible also and ordered the very best in Borka. Wish I had known about Borka from the start; could have saved some money!
@marka9802 жыл бұрын
I bought a Real Avid, but after getting it and trying it out, I can't trust it. It's lowest setting is supposed to be 10, but the lowest setting on the handle goes down to 6. Is 6 the real zero at 10 in lbs or do you have to turn the handle to the actual 0 number to represent 10 in lbs? Instructions do not say and I can't get an answer back from Real Avid. I don't trust it and I won't take the chance of over-torquing my scope rings. I returned it. Instead, I bought a digital FAT wrench. Highly accurate. I love it.
@hardcore44762 жыл бұрын
Seriously?? That’s just what I bought and that doesn’t sound good.. was going to get the wheeler but even gunsmiths reviews liked the real avid over the fat stick. 🤔
@bad_vaporizer Жыл бұрын
I have the real avid. The fat wrench was tested against the real avid and the real avid was more accurate and consistent. Wrong choice.
@marka980 Жыл бұрын
I went with my gut since I got zero response back from Real Avid customer service. I couldn't find anything online about what the actual 0 was. Maybe the one I got was off in its calibration, but I had no way of testing it myself. Keeping it was not worth ruining a $700 scope and the Fat Wrench I did use, worked just fine. Don't get me wrong, I also went with the majority vote by getting the Real Avid 1st, but a torque wrench is never supposed to bottom out lower than its lowest value, and the Real Avid I got, did.
@non-binaryjesus Жыл бұрын
Look is call "Germany Spec". Torque them all down to "gooduntite"!