FDNY - Early Arrival + Audio - Manhattan 2nd Alarm Box 1309 - Heavy Fire in A Vacant - 7/20/24

[@MusicLoverPearson]

That building has been unoccupied for over fifteen years it was intentionally set so that so that it could be demolished so that it could be torn down so they can build another luxury at building in our hood.

[@virgilhilts3924]

That literally makes no sense what-so-ever... If someone wants to tear it down they can just tear it down, no need to start a fire to tear it down. Not to mention the fact that it was reported it was started by vagrants squatting inside.

[@gordonjeffery2062]

If it's been vacant for a wait, why don't they use aerial pipes?

[@gordonjeffery2062]

It looks like a lot of firefighters just walking around

[@MrRonan3]

You see so many old buildings that seem to catch fire quite a lot in the USA. Coincidence the land was for sale,

[@JordanKagan-ex3ci]

Often squatters end up setting these buildings on fire

[@JohnnyT002]

I watched another video of this fire and the guy thought it started on the roof since his video started from showing the fire on the roof. But after seeing this video, I see that it started on the top floor. Excellent video.

[@edwardburgess5889]

2nd floor

[@armandosoliz1455]

Great camera work, love the radio traffic. Stay Safe.

[@JohnGoglia-s6o]

FDNY IS BEST DEPARTMENT ON EAST COAST

[@j.rstruck4541]

Wenn das die beste Einheit an der Ostküste ist, möchte ich nicht die schlechteste Einheit sehen. Unfähige Feuerwehr,

[@ironeagle22a]

@@j.rstruck4541ooohhhhh! Best FD in the world. Pay some respect, kiss the ring.

[@j.rstruck4541]

@@ironeagle22a ich will und möchte nicht die Leistungen der Feuerwehrmänner und Frauen in Abrede stellen, ich danke Ihnen für Ihre Einsatz, für die Bereitschaft Menschen zu retten zu schützen zu bergen zu löschen. was durch das Feuer nicht vernichtet wurde, wird durch das Löschwasser danach zerstört. An der Einsatzstelle Chaos und keine Einsatz Taktik. Die Einsatzfahrzeuge werden nicht der gebotenen Lage eingesetzt, Drehleiterfahrzeuge stehen da, werden erst sehr sehr spät in die Einsatzlage eingesetzt. So wie bei Euch in den USA die Feuerwehr arbeitet, würde es in Deutschland Niederlande Dänemark Frankreich niemals geben.

[@chrisreed3435]

Mmmkay....

[@paulsylvester1394]

Sad then as 8+ minutes and zero water! Is this urban removal? Not firefighting!

[@lewisg1736]

Over 15 minutes before first water from tower. I get that you don’t go direct on this kind of a fire, but that doesn’t stop you from setting up a couple of master streams and knocking it down from the outside.

[@virgilhilts3924]

You do not use master streams when their are firefighters working on the inside, that is how you injure or kill people. But thanks for confirming that you have no clue what you are talking about.

[@petergerritgroen3157]

Its take much too long,ridicules.

[@lawrence5039]

Join the NYFD and complain to them. Nobody cares what you think.

[@virgilhilts3924]

@@lawrence5039 👍

[@CallsItLikeISeizeIts]

Shhhhhh, Europe and Asia already on it, but not the yanks😮. Hey Sarge, enemies over there, should we open up? Nah, let’s wait 15 minutes cause time is on our side , and besides, who thought it good to,open up on enemy immediately, that’s for pansies said NO infantryman ever😂. Meanwhile in USMC, hey sarge enemy over ….BRAAAAAATTTTTTTTBLLLLLLLLAAAaaap brrrrrrrrrrrrrrt BOOM BOOM, AMMO BEARER UP1, where’s the air support , Brrrrraaaaaaaappppp, ……Meanwhile,a fire burns in Manhattan. NIST Govs Island proved water as soon as you can as fast as you cans as much as yiu ca, but hey, who wants to buck 200 years of tradition.

[@georgecoons6872]

old building look how many christmas and thanksgiving parties were in that building the day it was built and on.

[@joegaito702]

Even by fdny responding as always excellent outstanding brilliant they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and police and the battlion chief and the dispatcher who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going strong great team efforts are deeply appreciated even by fdny and NYPD responding stay safe and warm out there stay strong and healthy as well much love and respect and appreciation job well done you should be proud really enjoyed and appreciate the vidoes please keep them safe out there and coming appreciate you guys thanks a big thanks to everyone who responds and works around the clock to keep us safe out there way to go very impressed !!!! Joe

[@aeris6398]

Reading the comments goes to show how people don't understand the decisions that are made while fighting a fire. Vacant building means there is no reason to risk personnel for interior fire attack, hence why they went defensive and did exterior fire attack.

[@joebeach7759]

I think un-piped ladders are a waste of resources. most of the time, they have to move them to move in the tower-ladders with platforms. Most of the platforms where I live can operate 2, 1 3/4 lines off of the platform. What is the purpose of a straight ladder in NYC?

[@chrishuston1451]

Absolutely ! When will they learn

[@ramonjimenez-q3y]

"We've been doing it this way for years" is the excuse.

[@jlover911]

get to the roof and top floor window. 100 ft ladder not 75 ft TL

[@ronaldnichols5013]

It’s funny how many people stand there filming on their phone, what are they going to do, watch it later at home.

[@bluecabochon]

Probably posting it on Citizen app.

[@joshastana849]

Posting it somewhere so you can watch

[@lawrence5039]

It's something you don''t see every day, unless YOU are an arsonist....why do you care?

[@gondoravalon7540]

@@lawrence5039 *unless YOU are an arsonist.* That's not how being an arsonist works. 🙄

[@illiilliilliill]

The dispatcher sounds like Richard Simmons.

[@markescartin6613]

Saves on demolition AND you collect on the insurance! WHAT'S NOT TO LIKE?

[@JohnGoglia-s6o]

@markescartin6613 under new York law, you cannot collect any insurance money on abandoned building.. all abandoned buildings has there power turned off by CON-ED....If no power to building. Fdny arson teams automatically call it arson until physical evidence says otherwise.. fire had to be non. Natural causes unless hit by storm lightning.. in New York that's rare... all buildings MUST BE GROUNDED WHEN SETTING FOOTINGS AND FOUNDATION

[@ph11p3540]

It must have taken increasable restraint to continue filming despite that idiot who kept heckling and surpassing you. I absolutely hate people like that. You have increasable patience

[@owensweetland342]

Low lifes interfering. Glad you moved.

[@davidcarroll965]

The big banner clearly said Land For Sale so was prepared to come thru for future buyer !

[@anthonysaggio6551]

Great video and great audio what kind of radio are you using. Thanks for another great video

[@davidcarroll965]

Please tell me 1st ladder up had at least a 50 hose to attach to nozzle at end of ladder ?

[@irishrebel1976]

Another great vid.

[@RampantFury925]

Am i crazy, or does the dispatcher sound pretty young?

[@JoeMama3006-7MM]

why does New York have rear mounts and tillers they're always moving them for the tower ladders

[@robertyoung3992]

was this both interior/exterior attack or just exterior?

[@rosslane2847]

Hi, what’s a fast truck?

[@judiebarbieri8847]

The main purpose of the Firefighter Assist Search Team (FAST) is to provide immediate assistance to any firefighter(s) in imminent danger as well as rescue a missing, lost, or trapped firefighter.

[@peter-fuppe-fuchs]

20 minutes, still no water on the 🔥

[@robertyoung3992]

why risk valuable manpower on a vacant building?

[@johnnyberrios7785]

There's things that have to get done before the water...

[@mattggonzz]

Yea, that makes no sense. Even a hose line into the window would have helped a lot.

[@johnburns2458]

why was the delay on pumping water

[@mondoseguendo6113]

They forgot their hose at home maybe.

[@stuartleyton8097]

Convenient fire for a lot that is being sold--while the fire could be accidental set by vagrants or kids, more than likely it is akin to the classic "insurance fire". Fires like this were typical back in the 1970s and 1980s in NYC as a way to clear away slum/tenement housing for future development and many times the demolition costs would be offset by insurance proceeds and the like.

[@grahamsmith6210]

the difference from the 1970s is, back then they did this to fully occupied buildings

[@danielheartsill4269]

Tare that building down and build a Walmart Super Center there. The people in New York need a break in prices. My grandson has a friend who''s dad retired from NYC PD, moved to the Dallas Tx area and says his retirement money goes twice as far in Texas as NYC. c

[@johnnyberrios7785]

You feel the heat cause it's a fire....

[@JohnGoglia-s6o]

Weak fire pressure.. time of day.. ppl makong dinner, showering after hard days work. Have to wait until auxiliaries pumps kick in from other parts of city.. battalion chief 2st arriving report stated weak fire pressures

[@jlover911]

what????? are you talking about??? shower in nyc causes lower pressure???

[@JohnGoglia-s6o]

@jlover911 yes, what it does. Time of day . Showers. Cooking. Bath tubs clothes washer all running reduces water pressures..know fact.. between 0500 to 0700 pressures on average drops 25%.. noon to 15:00 15 %... evening is highest . In NYC.. all those restaurants. With dishwashers also draws huge amount of water.. why big city's has auxiliary pumps..listen to 2nd due chief, pressures were low . Pedometer reads about Of pressures.. water mains also dictate pressures. 4 inch vs 6 inch ve 8 vs 12 vs 30 How far are auxiliary pumps from Fire scene. Example Normal 6 inch water mains in the city are at 120psi. With 1.5..2.0.. 2.5 size fire hose at ground level is 100 lbs normally.. every story water pressures drops dramatically as you climb. Normal is 13 to 25 pounds lost at tip per 15 ft up

[@JohnGoglia-s6o]

@@jlover911 it's called gravity

[@albeone3574]

Vacant building burning, with "land for sale" billboard plastered on the side, lol.

[@JohnnyT002]

They will have to tear down that building for safety reasons now. And someone will buy all the empty lots and put up a luxury build.

[@virgilhilts3924]

@@JohnnyT002 That would be a good thing

[@BklynRulz]

@@JohnnyT002 That was gonna happen eventually regardless of this fire.

[@jharris5387]

Since the NYPD won't do traffic conhave the fdny use their apparatus to block traffic and pedestrian flow

[@mvl9591]

The sign on the side of the building says, Land For Sale!😂😂😂😂😂

[@NeilM01989]

Liked and shared

[@muskete8992]

Imagine putting water on that fire.

[@crew-dog2668]

Why did it take so long for the cops to stop the traffic? Also, where was the postal worker? Should have moved his large truck. No water, not impressed at all.

[@michaeltrolan4143]

How many times is the dispatcher going to repeat himself? Okay, we got it!

[@gerrydouglas2529]

am I nuts or are they going to let that building burn down and not put any water to it?

[@David-bv3cf]

You're nuts. It was a vacant building. There was no sense risking lives to go inside a vacant burning building. So they had to wait for the tower ladders to be set up. They did go inside after it was knocked down to look for hot spots. But the risk was too great for no reward to send people into this building initially. And it takes time to get the tower ladders ready to fight the fire.

[@fireshorts5789]

its a vacant building with no exposures (buildings on either side were demolished previously) so not much point in risking safety to get water on it in a hurry

[@kellykwongali]

Those vacant units are the units where [domestic terrorists] hid, out of sight, and are most likely burning their DNA away. At my local grocery store, an employee was forced to wipe down a bunch of 2-liter bottles where people had crawled through after removing the bottles. wiuk?

[@AJay-ip1mp]

Unfortunate place for the mail truck to be sitting.

[@The0311gruntUSMC]

Land for sale... sign on the building says it all!!! Arson job

[@CrackedShells]

Harlem’s on Fire

[@chassisresearchkid]

Hell yeah Spanish Harlem!

[@Andre-tt4cw]

Tout un cirque... Beaucoup de pompiers et de bavardage radio mais ça prends plus de 30 minutes pour lancer de l'eau sur le feu. Inacceptable....

[@JohnGoglia-s6o]

Sir. It's abandoned building Firefighters are concerned with weakness and possibly fire set in different locations

[@kellykwongali]

Those vacant units are the units where [domestic terrorists] his out of sight and are most likely burning their DNA away.

[@DanielGaffney-kq1zt]

To fdny stop calling fire engine units you still don't get it

[@thewestcoastoffense4039]

Junk operations! What’s with the positioning?!? 43 truck needs to take the outside spot. Decrease the climb ing angle and opens up the inside spot for engine companies. And L26 should’ve pulled forward in the outside spot to get a good aerial throw on the roof / upper floors. Why they stop so short?!?! For those F’ing chiefs?!? And wtf is that ground ladder doing on the front?? Should be to the fire escape third floor! Amatuer hour!

[@NewYorkCityTour]

That building is abandoned building ?

[@joegaito702]

Lets stop and hope everyone is doing ok right even by fdny and NYPD responding as always excellent outstanding brilliant they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and police and the battlion and the dispatcher who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated even by Manhattan fd responding great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going strong great team efforts are deeply appreciated stay safe and warm out there stay strong and healthy as well much love and respect and appreciation job well done you should be proud really enjoyed and appreciate the vidoes please keep them safe out there and coming a big thanks to everyone who responds and works around the clock to keep us safe out there way to go very impressed wonder what started the fire don't work to hard love you guys thanks way to go !!!!" Joe

[@simbee3634]

A typical American fire response - loads of trucks, loads of firefighters wandering around with no direction or control... watching the fire spread along the roof of the building... but who the *** is actually getting any water on the fire???? Or are they in the pay of the owners who want the insurance money?

[@megagames3605]

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. At the start of the incident, they were able to use an interior attack to search for anyone potentially inside and to try to be offensive on the fire. The fire beat them to it and they had to transition to defensive which takes some time to execute and set up. The firefighters you see outside are only a small fraction of those on scene. At the beginning there were several inside fighting the fire and completing searches. Not every single firefighter is always going to be doing something at a scene where a large department like the FDNY is operating. Some are extra units awaiting an assignment or waiting to releive another company, others are standing by in case a firefighter goes down, etc. This is all managed by the chief in command. There is so much going on that you can't see. When the fire was spreading on the roof, they were switching to an exterior attack which again, takes time. They had plenty of people working on that, the extra members that are seen standing are extra units awaiting an assignment or standing FAST. Plus, the building is vacant so there isn't exactly a 'rush' to save peoples' property. This was a controlled initial offensive interior attack which then had to be transitioned to a controlled devensive exterior attack after conditions changed. You should know what you're talking about before you make a clueless comment like that.

[@virgilhilts3924]

Thanks for confirming that you have no idea what you are talking about.

[@trvman1]

Yep, it's funny seeing the one fire fighter just leaning against the post. 40 of them standing around while maybe a dozen or so do the work. PLEASE don't tell me all those guys standing around were going to go into that building for "clean-up" The building was unsafe. You can see video's of CA fireman do the same thing with probably 1/2 or less of manpower. Just shows you wat a Union can do to a city.

[@megagames3605]

@@trvman1 You have no idea what you're talking about. You have no idea what the organization of units on that scene looked like. There were MULTIPLE companies operating inside the building at the beginning. Not every firefighter is always going to be doing something at every single moment. Many of the units on scene were either awaiting an assignment, preparing to relieve other companies, or standing FAST. Nobody is 'standing around', they are all complying with their ordered assignment. You do not see every single detail of the operation nor do you understand any of it. Fire scenes where large department are operating always look like everyone is standing around because there are a lot of support personell and reserve units. Also, once they switched to an exteriri operation with tower ladders, there obviously is going to be more firefighters outside seemingly standing there because its an exterior operation. Get a grip and know what you're talking about.

[@virgilhilts3924]

@@trvman1 Clearly you know nothing about the job or what it entails, but by all means feel free to keep making yourself look foolish. Obviously you are just a bitter wannabe upset that you couldn't get accepted into an FD and know you will never get the chance to drive the big shiny Engines or toot the siren.

[@NorthCarolinian]

How stupid was this!! so the whole FDNY was dispatched just to stand around looking at a building burn? So finally ONE ladder unit decided to squirt some water on it for show? What a waste of resources. The FDNY should be ashamed...

[@jerseyfky]

"Land For Sale" lol

[@paulsylvester1394]

8 minutes and still no water! Why?

[@markford4577]

Why so? Vacant bldg - no viable exposures. Best to avoid risk/injuries, take your time and set up properly to minimize.

[@seantoris1763]

Omg does the dispatcher ever shut up

[@CallsItLikeISeizeIts]

Another insurance fire sale 😂

[@maa3nde]

The American fire brigades are among the worst teams, in my opinion. They are slow and wait for the fire to go out on its own

[@jimkeappock7558]

Taking a long time to get the Tower Ladder up

[@johndoerschuk9812]

Looked like a controlled burn. Thought I saw the guys in the bucket roasting hot dogs.

[@jmWhyMe]

LOL typical FDNY efficiency. Water on the fire 34 minutes in

[@virgilhilts3924]

LOL Typical ignorant comment from you not having the remotest clue what you are even talking about

[@albeone3574]

I think I heard on the radio traffic they had 1 engine company and 1 truck company inside the building, then switched to a defense attack, hence why they lowered the stick and replaced it with the tower.

[@jpope537]

Typical? FDNY is one of the best, if not, the best fire department in the world.

[@jmWhyMe]

@@jpope537 you have your opinion, I have mine

[@teambedburg]

@@jpope537 *cough* *cough* The joke was good

[@mhiebendaal3836]

Nice Video. Keep the language and commentary to a minimum, unless You know Procedures of the fire scene😊. No Disrespect. Great Video. Thank You.

[@SuperBarnaby12]

Gee American firemen are slow as Snails. Try using water guys.

[@jerryhart6366]

Another vacant lot lolol

[@fireguye4]

This commentary is annoying. Great video otherwise

[@PaulDean-y5o]

The worst firefighters in the world 😂

[@mr_metalhead_warriorny]

Coverage is great. But you need to stop letting “Armchair” spectators give their report! From a Former First Responder you and viewers have no clue what fire personnel have to worry about what’s inside of building and the interior structure!! No The “Firemen weren’t just standing around as the know nothing female said. Know what your filming

[@robertcostello9989]

Another greatb job by the FDNY

[@jimmys2199]

So 2 guys go to the roof and come down..no saw to make a cut

[@jimmys2199]

This chief gave up the building before he was 10-84..

[@transilvanischervampir666]

🧐