Fear and Hunger 2's Occult References are DEEPLY Disturbing

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Max Derrat

Max Derrat

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@mutantwormgirl
@mutantwormgirl 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout, and great work! or should I say Great Work! I was just thinking about the union of opposites today regarding another piece of media. 🤔
@eduardoubilla4307
@eduardoubilla4307 10 ай бұрын
I loved your videos about Fear & Hunger.
@BottledDelusion
@BottledDelusion 10 ай бұрын
One of the rare times I had already watched something before he even played the game it was about.
@wontonschannel
@wontonschannel 10 ай бұрын
your lisa videos are based. thanks for posting your work for us to enjoy
@Dirty0o0Jester
@Dirty0o0Jester 10 ай бұрын
Always a treat to see a Worm Gorl in her element! That being a wholesome eldritch entity of deep thinkin and good noise 😊
@ankoku37
@ankoku37 10 ай бұрын
or perhaps even Great Worm?
@mitchmonin2238
@mitchmonin2238 10 ай бұрын
And so Max has become the ouroboros, generating and devouring his own content.
@NuIIname
@NuIIname 3 ай бұрын
😂
@prachetasnayse9709
@prachetasnayse9709 Ай бұрын
ISSA MEME MACHINE
@AlriikRidesAgain
@AlriikRidesAgain 10 ай бұрын
When Max realized he was the Fear and Hunger 2: Termina all along, I genuinely couldn't keep my grin off my face.
@jasonblundelldobebussing
@jasonblundelldobebussing 10 ай бұрын
Max to be added as a playable character in FEARFUL AND HUNGRY 3: How to Cook
@D0MIN0W4LKER
@D0MIN0W4LKER 10 ай бұрын
Fearful and Hungrier 3: Cook Harder
@necrosadotor
@necrosadotor 10 ай бұрын
the final chapter: fearless and absolutely full (ridiculously good ending)
@DragonBoi3789
@DragonBoi3789 10 ай бұрын
"How to Serve Man" IT'S A COOK BOOK!!
@dumbvillage9253
@dumbvillage9253 9 ай бұрын
Fear and hunger 3: colon three
@kira516
@kira516 8 ай бұрын
Fear and hunger 3 : let them cook
@jasonblundelldobebussing
@jasonblundelldobebussing 10 ай бұрын
It's like that Beavis and Butthead episode: "WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE *SHADOW* AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE *UNCONSCIOUS* AND WE'LL CERTAINLY BE TALKING ABOUT THE *OPPOSITES! DO YOU FIND THAT FUNNY?!"* 😂
@Vincent_Rabbit
@Vincent_Rabbit 10 ай бұрын
"DO YOU FIND FUNNY WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT *THE SELF?!"*
@SauceyLips
@SauceyLips 10 ай бұрын
@@Vincent_RabbitDO YOU FIND IT FUNNY BUTTHEAD? DO YOU FIND IT FUNNY WE’LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE OCCULT?
@beavisbunghole
@beavisbunghole 5 ай бұрын
That was cool
@rustyjones7908
@rustyjones7908 4 ай бұрын
AND... AND WE WILL DEFINITELY BE TALKING A LOT ABOUT OCCULT REFERENCES!
@cryptogames299
@cryptogames299 10 ай бұрын
A.I. the omissiah. Our collective ideas merging into a machine that can simulate being in a lucid state infinitely achieving Godhood.
@Manwendlil
@Manwendlil 10 ай бұрын
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me[...]"
@Zurvan1947
@Zurvan1947 10 ай бұрын
​@@Manwendlil"For I craved the certainty of steel"
@n4ughty_knight
@n4ughty_knight 10 ай бұрын
So... Basically the Matrix
@andrewkelley9405
@andrewkelley9405 10 ай бұрын
I am now the toaster
@PhilieBlunt666
@PhilieBlunt666 10 ай бұрын
Look at him! He's the toaster now...
@Scrrolcz
@Scrrolcz 10 ай бұрын
I love how Prehevil is based on Prague which was a great alchemical centre in Europe
@MYTHONICS
@MYTHONICS 10 ай бұрын
That union of opposites appears quite a lot throughout the series, as well as humanity's rejection of it. Vinushka is a prime example
@The_Slumber_incident
@The_Slumber_incident 4 ай бұрын
Hey, it’s you 👆
@TheWhatisthiseven
@TheWhatisthiseven 10 ай бұрын
16:17 Something I'd like to point out, Ending A is rather blatantly a criticism of the real-world Digital Age, and the Internet. The internet, like Logic, is a repository of all human knowledge, and can be accessed by anyone. And yet, despite the purpose of the internet as a way to connect people and share knowledge and experiences, it has also resulted in insulating behavior and depersonalization, which exactly what is said of Logic and the future it brings.
@yum9918
@yum9918 10 ай бұрын
This. Seems less like the hivemind/loss of individuality scenario that we saw a few times, and more of a hyper-individualization, self-isolation and curated reality that reflects what we see today.
@mollystewart-gallus537
@mollystewart-gallus537 10 ай бұрын
Yes but it's a little more complicated. Logic is not just the internet but postmodernity and hyperreality. In F&H 2 Rher surfaces our shadow selves. In particular, Rher surfaces the Sulfur God, the shadow of Almer. But Rher does not create our shadow. Rher is not really our enemy. Logic who ascends under Rher pulls a similar trick. Logic echoes Rher in sharing our unconscious. But Logic isn't responsible for our shadow. It's more of a you cannot shortcut enlightenment sort of idea I think. The internet reveals much of our darkest shadow but does not create it.
@VeritabIlIti
@VeritabIlIti 9 ай бұрын
​@@yum9918 that "hyper-individualization," as you call it, is one of the late stages of neoliberal society driven by rampant capitalism: people become less distinct because they believe they are MORE individual, isolating them while also removing their tendency to think, ironically, as a true individual. We are never as original as we think we are, and those who can see that facade stand to gain from it.
@FiggsNeughton
@FiggsNeughton 8 ай бұрын
@@VeritabIlIti Rampant materialism of any kind.
@Cooe.
@Cooe. 8 ай бұрын
It's not really criticism though. The game mostly portrays Logic as a net positive for humanity, the same way the previous Age of Cruelty had been. That the negative consequences are worth it in exchange for advancement of humanity and real forward progress. Most people would argue the same for computers and the internet. 🤷 Hell, most would argue the same thing for capitalism, which has unquestionably pulled more people out of poverty than any other innovation in the history of mankind despite having some obvious ills. Real life isn't so damn black and white.
@Yan_Alkovic
@Yan_Alkovic 10 ай бұрын
I can't imagine what it must feel like to have inspired a video game and to see it realised in your lifetime. Congrats, man.
@TheAsylumCat
@TheAsylumCat 10 ай бұрын
I imagine my reaction would be similar to Max's. It's amazing.
@hannahshark8080
@hannahshark8080 9 ай бұрын
I can't imagine a better content creator to inspire part of a video game.
@Pinky-0-1-0
@Pinky-0-1-0 10 ай бұрын
the 10 minute lead up, to the 2 minute reveal and the 5 minutes of genuine excitement that your studies have lead to the creation of a video game. Congratulations. This is the same as the philosophers of ages past finding xenogears or any 90s jrpg. You are living an intellectually and spiritually stimulating life and I'm glad you can see the fruit bore.
@Cottinmouth
@Cottinmouth 10 ай бұрын
Ending a is like the human instrumentality project from Eva.
@Darktree6621
@Darktree6621 10 ай бұрын
The last minute of the video being frames from evangelion was a jumpscare
@S41GON
@S41GON 4 ай бұрын
Also infinite dream from Naruto Shippuden
@lesvegetables9575
@lesvegetables9575 10 ай бұрын
Max: Let's take a look at the lore of F&H2. Minutes later: Oh, it appears I inspired the lore.
@juancgonzalez6537
@juancgonzalez6537 9 ай бұрын
In my head cannon, F&H3 could be a follow up in the future where Logic not only remains active, but pervasive in human lives. Most of humanity has merged with the structure as a means of connection, control by the state, or a means of enlightenment through a literal means of merging vessels. I could imagine in this day and age, the gods are near completely forgotten as Logic has dominated overall. However, with a stagnation of philosophical and religious presence, an erosion of spirit could emerge. With a lack of identity, the individual minds will degrade into monstrous beings that could only be found in moth eaten books that are considered antiques. Since most people are hooked to Logic, I can imagine there is some sort of life support, so production of ready made food is sparse. Those who haven't see the real world in their lives won't know how to navigate it. Those who lived in Logic will see the terror of their friends and family corrupt into monsters. The collective unconsciousness may try to develop a safe haven where they can retain themselves and each other. Wouldn't it be neat if that Haven was Ma'habre? It was always there, it just needed a medium to exist in. Just a thought
@martonszentkiralyi2251
@martonszentkiralyi2251 10 ай бұрын
I hope Vinushka, the god of nature and the logic god will have more pressence in the third game, maybe set in a cyberpunk hive city nightmare and/or solarpunk feverdream with themes about humanity's complicated relationship to nature and technology
@Mantosasto
@Mantosasto 10 ай бұрын
That's what I thought a third game could be about. In the first game we end an era with the birth of a new god, then the second game is about the end of that era ending it with yet another god being born. The third game could be set in this new era which would be more futuristic or at least modern.
@Bellriver1
@Bellriver1 10 ай бұрын
I would definitely expect Vinushka to take a bigger role but for a different reason, along with the other old gods. Perhaps the next game will be set in Vinland, the nightmarish land of perpetual darkness closely tied to the old gods, a North America colony that remains mostly untamed by 1942 in game.
@cdru515
@cdru515 10 ай бұрын
To be fair, there are hints that Vinushka was replaced by Logic, but I still suspect that the third game will focus on the consequences of Logic's creation
@martonszentkiralyi2251
@martonszentkiralyi2251 10 ай бұрын
@@cdru515 I interpret it as an attempt to replace Vinushka, but he represents all natural cycles and biological life, as long as these are present he won’t be forgotten and will have influence. Might be a HUGE stretch, but Logic could be an aspect of Vinushka since it represents a very drastic change and human nature
@fast.food.ninjalarry954
@fast.food.ninjalarry954 10 ай бұрын
Also David Martinez needs to be playable.
@odd-eyes6363
@odd-eyes6363 9 ай бұрын
Wait... A mortal turned god who ascended by discarding his evil self? Holy crap the Sulfur God is literally Demon King Piccolo from Dragon Ball
@MisoraRyuu0921
@MisoraRyuu0921 7 ай бұрын
Enki ultimately proved that humanity could embrace their shadow self and come out with their mind and humanity intact in his S ending. Logic, as you mentioned, would eliminate personality and keep you trapped in a dreamlike state, which is ultimately no better than the new gods being trapped in that dining hall.
@MagicalTalkingPony
@MagicalTalkingPony 10 ай бұрын
With the Shadow/Unconcious Self, I can't help but think about character's Moonscorched forms, and how some of them almost seem like a reflection of what they dislike about themselves. Levi's Weeping scope form is like how he was formed into a weapon by the state, Olivia's Mechanical Dancer being entirely metal, Marcoh's Giant being a massive brute with clubs for hands... And Daan, being Pocketcat, who actually seems to accept his transformation, does that make Pocketcat a Perfect Self, in some weird way?
@SerbianSpark19
@SerbianSpark19 9 ай бұрын
Nah i think pocket cat just possed him due to trauma you tellin me that Dan who isnt a pedo becomes a pedo
@dumbsterdives
@dumbsterdives 7 ай бұрын
theyre like a grim version of the Shadow selves in Persona 4, which, hey, another deeply Jungian series. Another notable one is Abella's Chaugnar being incredibly muscular and masculine, likely representing a repressed (since she doesnt seem particularly worried about it prior to turning) insecurity about her perceived lack of femininity.
@britnicox3929
@britnicox3929 10 ай бұрын
I can feel my fear and hunger obsession coming back full force…
@MsJesterJP
@MsJesterJP 10 ай бұрын
This was lovely. I love the shout outs to Worm Girl and MautheDog. Incredible work as always. Congratulations on your work being cited. Side note: Have you played Who's Lila yet? The game straight up shouts out Jungian Psychology so I'd think it'd be up your alley.
@mandinhapicles
@mandinhapicles 10 ай бұрын
The video is great, but I can't get that thumbnail image out of my head. HE'S BALLIN WITH THE MOON
@geronimofarroni2118
@geronimofarroni2118 9 ай бұрын
You deserve this tribute/Fame for all the culture and knowledge shared in all your videos. 3 years ago I left you a message and we discussed how people not worth of fame were idolized, now three years later, you get a great gift of the universe. I'm really glad my friend, enjoy and keep the good work! 👏👏👏👏👏
@Lavey1917
@Lavey1917 10 ай бұрын
Really fucking happy to see you delve into Fear and Hunger, specially Termina
@arglebargle42
@arglebargle42 10 ай бұрын
So glad you did a shout out for Worm Girl, her Cataclysm:DDA playthroughs are the most soothing post apocalyptic narrative I've ever fallen asleep to.
@xShibox
@xShibox 10 ай бұрын
you go Max, you're awesome, hearing your and Uberboyo's Aion videos gave me flashes of Fear and Hunger for some reason, and now I see why...
@buntado6
@buntado6 10 ай бұрын
That ending, yeah, the idea itself of merging by definition must have an opposite, separation, and both must be balanced. A merging where individual disappears in favor of the collective is not ideal, it's a merging done wrong. It's why the Marriage of flesh becomes more of a wretch the more it's practiced, the union of male and female is not supposed to be the literal erasure of sexual differences, and I grow more convinced that it's a resentful selfishness what drives it, the goal of never needing to rely on another human being. For them, needing something your body is incapable of providing on it's own is unacceptable.
@nicolaspicard1501
@nicolaspicard1501 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Sir
@Dunge0n
@Dunge0n 6 ай бұрын
I'm asexual and antinatalist. I resent the notion that I 'should' bring a baby into this world, just to pay a mortgage, suffer and die. No. I'm done wishing this would all just go up in smoke but I'm also just done.
@raro344
@raro344 3 ай бұрын
@@Dunge0n people do more than that
@Lewisl4d2
@Lewisl4d2 Ай бұрын
@@Dunge0n Ok
@Squirrelthing
@Squirrelthing 10 ай бұрын
Watching you'r videos are a delight, I feel like I not only learn more about philosophy than I did at university, but also understand the concepts far better. And I start seeing the patterns elsewhere as well. This video also reminded me of Hollow Knight, where the Radiance gave "Unity" (possibly similar to the Logic ending in FaH 2) to the moths, but they ultimately abandoned "Unity" for "Higher Thought" when they met the Pale King. The Pale King later used a Vessel (the titular Hollow Knight), a union of opposites (the shell of a Higher Being and a heart of Void), to seal away the Radiance. There's a lot more nuance to the story but the gist of it has a lot of familiar symbology.
@Duuhvis
@Duuhvis 9 ай бұрын
I don’t know exactly why, but I’ve been deeply fascinated by these games.
@oboaboa3717
@oboaboa3717 9 ай бұрын
The battle Royale until only one survives to reach the summit of a giant tower reminds me of digital devil saga I wonder where that idea comes from and what it symbolizes
@noirangel6416
@noirangel6416 10 ай бұрын
Would you consider doing an analysis on the Watchmen tie-in comic/animated short film *"Tales of the Black Freighter".* (Granted you may have to read/watch the comic/film of Watchmen to fully understand it) Though it is its own story of a castaway sailor losing his sanity and morals trying to get home, the messages, themes & allegories tie into the Watchmen comic/film. It really shook me.
@maxderrat
@maxderrat 10 ай бұрын
If I were to do it, I would want to do it while talking about the wider Watchmen story and lore simultaneously. Or, I would do a video on Watchmen first, and then do Tales of the Black Freighter.
@noirangel6416
@noirangel6416 10 ай бұрын
@@maxderrat Understandable. Love your videos. ❤️
@zandermartins788
@zandermartins788 10 ай бұрын
​@@maxderratwould you do a video about the hbo show as well? I'm curious about your opinion about it! (Cheers from Brazil)
@maxderrat
@maxderrat 10 ай бұрын
Maybe! I've never seen it.
@haybusa4547
@haybusa4547 10 ай бұрын
I might have to check it out, Watchmen as a movie still holds up and it's probably my favorite super hero movie. Top 5 for sure!
@thetalantonx
@thetalantonx 9 ай бұрын
Another awesome video, thanks for your hard work in bringing these concepts to us.
@giantstingray
@giantstingray 10 ай бұрын
You and Paul do a lot of work to educate us on alchemy and the occult and we have learned a lot. I hope you feel proud
@mattthekiller9129
@mattthekiller9129 10 ай бұрын
16:53 but wouldn't that actually be worse? Like, rather than seeking new experiences and solving new problems, people would rather stay in our shared world, so there would not be any true advancement 🤔 after all, in f&h1 nash'rah says something along the lines of "humanity is chaos, not meant to be controlled"; but also this would mean that there's no hope either than joining the sulfur god or everyone ascending and becoming a new god...man this lore really makes you think
@Владислав-ы9м5у
@Владислав-ы9м5у 10 ай бұрын
That's the thing. Instead of doing something revolutionary, we spend hours upon hours, staring into screens of our internet-connected devices.
@InterrobangInterrobang
@InterrobangInterrobang 10 ай бұрын
. (And a paradoxical self-contradiction) If humanity were to actually develop the impetus and involvement to really live, rather than be dissociated sycophants, Then they wouldn't need to defer to apathetic distant iconography. -But instead, Humanity is chaos. Unreasonable. Therefor, They tear through worlds, paradigms, abstract concepts, And ultimately invent a way to have even less responsibility for themselves, Only to spitefully disobey the ideals they made for themselves again. (The outer beings always retreat into the void, because humans freak them out.)
@jazzjazzington8244
@jazzjazzington8244 10 ай бұрын
@@Владислав-ы9м5уthats kinda what I was thinking after watching this, Logic in a way has kinda won here - everyone being connected with the internet. Would rather stay in their homes rooted to their devices rather than going outside and doing anything. Doesn't need to be a full on matrix-like reality to achieve this sort of thing.
@stoffelthedestroyer3741
@stoffelthedestroyer3741 10 ай бұрын
Max Derrat not understanding that he is a force of nature here on KZbin and not just one of the random essayists/analysts on the platform is hella funny to me :D
@Myhaay
@Myhaay 6 ай бұрын
he is just another analyst tho, just because he's good and he is prevalent in your algorithm and bubble doesn't make him a force of nature, 99% of the youtube and general audience have never heard of him, stop thinking the world revolves around your interests, it's not healthy. this is no hate to max, he is a great guy with a cool channel.
@stoffelthedestroyer3741
@stoffelthedestroyer3741 6 ай бұрын
@@Myhaay yes because you play fortnite all day and watch Logan Paul's apology video on repeat. go your way now, nothing for you here
@Myhaay
@Myhaay 6 ай бұрын
@@stoffelthedestroyer3741 that doesn't even make any sense? how do you reach that conclusion? i wouldn't even be able to watch this video if i had that short of an attention span. you literally said nothing about what i wrote and simply insulted me for no reason, did i disrupt your masturbating session to youtube analysts?
@unodos149
@unodos149 10 ай бұрын
What I have gleaned from your videos, writ large, is that when videogame developers want to get occulty/deep, they build a lore based on Jung's theories that I basically describe as "explaining psychology by applying mythology tropes" lol. It all feels secretly real, cuz the psychology it's based on of course feels familiar. And since the psychology reminds us of things we have experienced in our own lives, we assume the rest that doesn't feel familiar, must also be true. And thus the sensation that we're becoming party to deep dark mysteries. Your analyses are always spot on, but, game developers really love the Jungian occulty well lol
@Surtel9
@Surtel9 10 ай бұрын
This is Very reminiscent of The diamond sutra which states that there is no enlighment and The vows.
@mirusuperstar
@mirusuperstar 10 ай бұрын
Trivia: Perkele is a finnish swear word, sort of the kind of "goddamn!" It is related to the christian devil, and in modern times is thought of as a synonym. Some researchers believe that it was also used as the name for the supreme god in finnish pagan beliefs and pantheon, commonly known as "Ukko" the thunder god. Haven't played the games, so can't provide any more input or analysis on the name. Of course, could also just be an easter egg kind of thing since so many non-finnish speakers know perkele as a finnish swear word ^^'
@stop7556
@stop7556 10 ай бұрын
Well here's another fun trivia: Yahweh was likely based off the storm God in caananite pantheon.
@josedorsaith5261
@josedorsaith5261 10 ай бұрын
That's so cool that the developer watches your videos. Still remember your vids from when you were on HBR.
@duplicarus
@duplicarus 2 ай бұрын
If you’re interested in occultism a good intro is this podcast called “Know Thyself”. It’s like putting your toe into the water. Caution though, shit gets really scary the deeper you go.
@seelcudoom1
@seelcudoom1 10 ай бұрын
another thing to consider on the Conscious vs Subconscious is the other model, in which the conscious mind has two components, the Ego and Superego, The Id obviously matches the Shadow of Sulfur, and Superego being morality and religious beliefs matches well to the divine and kind Allmer, so we are left with the final one, Ego, which represents Logic, 3 guesses whos that part
@lolmenx4
@lolmenx4 4 ай бұрын
Holy shit how did i not notice what al-meer casting of his bad things down meant. I PLAYED P4 AND READ SOME OF JUNG AND I DIDN'T NOTICE NOOOOOOOOOO IT WAS SO CLEAR.
@WHALEBOY777
@WHALEBOY777 10 ай бұрын
This is really cool, I'm glad Max's videos are bringing these great ideas into public consciousness. I hope more games use his videos as reference points.
@mcskittlez6159
@mcskittlez6159 10 ай бұрын
GOD DANG IT, ITS JUST "END OF EVANGELION" AGAIN!
@railimarotto2561
@railimarotto2561 10 ай бұрын
11:37 😂 also that so sweet of Miro. You are now apart of the f&h lore.
@xboxcar1512
@xboxcar1512 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video as always, and how crazy that reference they made to one of your videos in the game, that just goes to show the excellent work you do🤓
@zephshoir
@zephshoir 10 ай бұрын
Dude I love the thumbnail!
@maxderrat
@maxderrat 10 ай бұрын
Special thanks to Indi for her artwork!
@Indi_51
@Indi_51 10 ай бұрын
Omg thank you!!! ❤❤❤
@MotanuClujean
@MotanuClujean 10 ай бұрын
Max, love you videos man. I really do feel like learning a lot from watching them. You were also an inspiration for me to start reading Jung's and Freud's work, together with Alan Watts' books
@purpledevilr7463
@purpledevilr7463 22 күн бұрын
With the state of Lucid Dreaming. I don’t find it’s a good union of Unconscious and Conscious. At least from the Conscious perspective. When I lucid dream, I feel like I lack my higher thought, my creativity. I realise I’m dreaming but don’t actually do much with it. It’s more intense and can be pleasant, but I still lack something.
@brandonwaller94
@brandonwaller94 9 ай бұрын
Dangit, after watching this video I now need a "Welcome to the club" sort of meme consisting of game devs who do their own thing depicting at least Hideo Kojima, Koji Igarashi and Yoko Taro all together welcoming Miiro in cause good grief I completely lost it laughing my ass off when I got to the brain bit. On a side note, would be really neat to see ya meet & chat with the fellas from The New Gods' podcast sometime too I think.
@Havac05
@Havac05 10 ай бұрын
More Fear and Hunger!!! Let's fucking go!!!
@JimmyJohnson-fv3mq
@JimmyJohnson-fv3mq 8 ай бұрын
> I open video > video has signalis music > video good o can just tell
@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120
@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 8 ай бұрын
then honestly you have a low bar
@JimmyJohnson-fv3mq
@JimmyJohnson-fv3mq 8 ай бұрын
@@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 that’s nuts!
@EbidoX
@EbidoX 10 ай бұрын
all the lore videos i’ve watched has prepared me for a full comprehension of all the references you’ve laid out, maybe i’ll finally play the game
@Greenfield-yf1wh
@Greenfield-yf1wh 9 ай бұрын
@17:44 Nas'hrah is classified as old god, but he is new god.
@CaravanCzar
@CaravanCzar Ай бұрын
I think Nas'hrah may be a new god that predates Alllmer, and that's why he was included in the Old Gods. He is a lower case "o" old god, but not an Old God.
@renessanssimies384
@renessanssimies384 10 ай бұрын
"Pegrrkele that is how it is pronounced." As a proud Finn, I can confirm. That is the way I try to say it from moment starting now. Better than our original way to say it.
@thescribblemedia
@thescribblemedia 10 ай бұрын
as a fan of your channel, sir, it's great that your analysis has reached out to other creators and made them an inspiration for their works. I, too, am one of those. Hopefully, one day, I can share my works with you who were inspired by your videos. Thank you for the teachings.
@sea-abyssal
@sea-abyssal 10 ай бұрын
You my have hit the nail on the head as to why i like this series with these two videos. I love the type of horror it visually shows but I knew it was something else, but I didn't know why till now.
@Prototype9871
@Prototype9871 9 ай бұрын
I love to see how much your channel has grown
@KommissarAlexander
@KommissarAlexander 10 ай бұрын
In every video this guy has "the most shocking discovery of my youtube career".
@anadventfollower1181
@anadventfollower1181 10 ай бұрын
Amazing breakdown and explaination of this game and comparison to Aion by Carl Jung. As someone mentioned already in the comment section (which I've said for years). A.I. will be the major collective which leads us to singularity point.
@Kyoukichi
@Kyoukichi 10 ай бұрын
Carl Young, I wanna be forever Youuuuung. Young young young.
@Kyoukichi
@Kyoukichi 10 ай бұрын
Now try pronouncing Jung's name correctly.
@funfungerman8401
@funfungerman8401 10 ай бұрын
at 1:55 you misspelled, its not the sulfur god, its the wagyu-beef god
@TheTerrorNavigator
@TheTerrorNavigator 9 ай бұрын
I think if anything Fear & Hunger 3 will have to do with some sort of battle between gods like Logic and Sulfur over the state that humanity-between free will and true paradise. As for how that would look, I have no idea 🤷
@johnkramer2144
@johnkramer2144 8 ай бұрын
Imagine being a (relatively) small time content creator and (directly) inspiring a video game that people will be referencing and inspecting the lore of and the characters included for years to come. Congrats, friend. You have achieved what many of us can only dream of.
@thes3plan355
@thes3plan355 6 ай бұрын
I love these games. And your work. Haven’t played these enough to watch this, very excited to watch.
@_kebrit_
@_kebrit_ 10 ай бұрын
1 minute into the video and I already know that this is a masterpiece
@LtheOriginal
@LtheOriginal 6 ай бұрын
4:53 OHHHHHHH that's what that meant. I thought they were calling me a dumbass or something.
@borretniw7603
@borretniw7603 10 ай бұрын
Gratz dude. Must be a great feeling to inspire something so dark and horrifying like Termina =p
@4crAAil
@4crAAil 4 ай бұрын
Loved the video. I think Logic isn't purely or 100% in a combined mind state since she still recognizes Olivia and speaks as if she's emotional to be reunited with her. If she truly was just the databank for connecting thought wouldn't Olivia get the same response as the other contestants?
@Beeyo176
@Beeyo176 10 ай бұрын
Imagine playing Minecraft one day and realizing you were a part of the inspiration for it. Absolutely wild sht
@Lukes_mute
@Lukes_mute 10 ай бұрын
Excellent music choice with the Dino-Crisis theme
@cowzmoon
@cowzmoon 10 ай бұрын
I originally questioned the reason why the logic project would be completed during the festival. Of course logic's symbol is vinushka's with a dash through it (the killing of vinushka possibly symbolism when we abandoned nature we moved to technology) So I had assumed rher was only tacked on. But this video made me realize Rher's festival was the perfect point in time because his dominion is the mind and *dreams*. With logic prioritizing the unconscious and conscious for union. I do hope you cover moonscorching, I am aware it would be similar to the union analysis you used, but I would like to see your interpretation of each moonscorch and what it means for each character.
@Vaennylla
@Vaennylla 10 ай бұрын
I was not expecting that plot twist. That's pretty meta.
@thencursethestars
@thencursethestars 10 ай бұрын
I wish I could convey how hard my jaw dropped watching this. I LOOOOVE your videos on Funger so much and it's so cool how full circle this became!! EDIT: I totally made comparisons to Lain and Logic as well omg!!! I'm so excited someone is finally talking about it too
@KelleyGreenEcstasy
@KelleyGreenEcstasy 10 ай бұрын
I cant even say 1 perkelee correctly so kudos to you edit: shout out to your Aion series.
@benearthside
@benearthside 9 ай бұрын
Interesting. Logic sounds a lot like instrumentality.
@RooftopSwordMaster
@RooftopSwordMaster 10 ай бұрын
12:08, 14:58 So if I lucid dream long enough I can achieve "the self"?
@PinchyTheKittyGirl
@PinchyTheKittyGirl 8 ай бұрын
OK I beat Termina and now I'm back for the video.
@MillennialMetamodernist
@MillennialMetamodernist 10 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the "Interface" series by umami on youtube. A corporation builds a machine, shared consciousness. Essentially a manmade afterlife
@KeiranRoth
@KeiranRoth 10 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this video along with your previous F&H video. I think there's a lot of interesting topics in both F&H games that I'd like to see you dissect.
@KATinBLACK
@KATinBLACK 9 ай бұрын
Props for learning how to say a lot of the names and terms. Being a pretty much unvoiced game, I had no idea even the town name wasn’t pronounced like pre-heave-el
@Morraak
@Morraak 10 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this video! It didn't disappoint!
@FiggsNeughton
@FiggsNeughton 8 ай бұрын
If you are on the radar of indie game devs of that caliber then you are also on the radar of the Department of Defense and probably multiple "breakaway civilizations" congrats brother.
@FireOutOfMonkeysHead
@FireOutOfMonkeysHead 10 ай бұрын
Missed you Max you're finally back in my feed
@mercenarygundam1487
@mercenarygundam1487 10 ай бұрын
3:24 LEL! Struggler Spotted. 11:19 Synchronicity at work.
@RoninDreamer
@RoninDreamer 6 ай бұрын
The unification of consciousness and unconsciousness reminds me of the Hypnotic, theta wave, state and also the Gnosis state in 'chaos magic' occultism.
@apeasant8550
@apeasant8550 6 ай бұрын
Im rather new to fear&hunger just watching gameplay of the most famous moments and small lore dumps here an there and I must say im really grateful for your video alongside these comments really helped me understand alot of the themes and knowledge behind the game. Thanks man
@kurganfigs9924
@kurganfigs9924 10 ай бұрын
Damn you helped inspire some of the lore in fear and hunger that’s crazy!
@maximilianoelschlegel4714
@maximilianoelschlegel4714 10 ай бұрын
Okay, this is plainly frigging awesome... two things I utterly devour beget each other
@PoiColle
@PoiColle 6 ай бұрын
how do u hear a g at the start of perkele
@pabloraulpereyra4948
@pabloraulpereyra4948 10 ай бұрын
8:15 what do you think about the black man saying that maybe the shadow overpower all mer
@oscardemola1295
@oscardemola1295 10 ай бұрын
I am currently reading "hard boiled wonderland and the end of the world" by haruki murakami and I really love the atmosphere of the book even tho its hard to determine what are the themes and what is it all about in the end but at some point the main character is deprived of his shadow and your explanation of the shadow was very interesting and enlightning regarding this book and what was the whole purpose of the shadow existence
@gojohnnyxo
@gojohnnyxo 10 ай бұрын
Do you think you’d ever do another control video on how you think the blessed organization is making OOP? Cus I’m having trouble understanding how they’re making astral weapons.. or how mjolnir is one
@r.babylon2885
@r.babylon2885 10 ай бұрын
The Sulphur god is basically Piccolo crossed with Castlevania: Lords Of Shadow
@ssufuw33
@ssufuw33 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video man, my mind went kinda lighter.
@gqueirogabr
@gqueirogabr 10 ай бұрын
That has to be the highlight of a youtube/gamer career to find out the creator of a game drew inspiration from your work
@requiemdermorgenrote4465
@requiemdermorgenrote4465 6 ай бұрын
Something interesting I noticed is that this extends even further than you explored in this video. The person who becomes Logic, Reila, similarly mirrors Alll-Mer in certain ways. Namely, and the wording is very interesting here, her sister Olivia possesses the Shadowed Soul. Olivia has the most unique reaction of any contestant to equipping a firearm for the first time, feeling like it makes her powerful. In Olivia's backstory, we learn Reila had a relationship with a college professor who turned out to be a member of the anti-Bremen resistance group, and this is how Reila is recruited to their cause. Olivia also specifically has the choice in her background to be jealous of this relationship and attempt to break them up or "steal her man away". Reila is eventually captured by the Bremen Empire (also similar to Le'Garde's imprisonment by the Kingdom of Rondon), but her story eventually leads her to Prehevil where she puts herself in Logic so that Kaiser can't, thus essentially sacrificing her life, humanity, and connection to her family, casting it away, to become an Ascended God. I feel like there's something here, but like most things in this game series it's done mostly by subtext rather than outright exposition, but I found it interesting nonetheless.
@eeavwinex7869
@eeavwinex7869 10 ай бұрын
almost didn't click because of the thumbnail and title but I'm glad I did, great video!
@odd-eyes6363
@odd-eyes6363 9 ай бұрын
The occult references are pretty disturbing, but the regular references are pretty cool Reminds you that this game is basically Majora's Mask for depressed adults 😅
@KamuiTheCheshire
@KamuiTheCheshire 10 ай бұрын
What an excellent analysis and video. Just wild!
@thebaronofwhispers
@thebaronofwhispers 10 ай бұрын
ty for this! and glad to see your work inspiring others!!
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