Fear and Hunger is One Big Occult Metaphor and Here's Why

[@fearhunger3983]

Oh wow, thank you so much for taking a look at the game! Been a fan of your channel for a good while so this definitely made my day.

[@PlattyGems]

Happy for you Orange :3

[@vnkfrancis1328]

Oh, shit I didn't expect to find Orange himself in this thread. I hope expansion for Termina is fitting real nicely.

[@WeirdTroll666]

oh nice

[@balasubramanianb2308]

The goat himself present here

[@dalfaroux]

@fearhunger3983 thank you for creating these games

[@kommandobosssnikrot9283]

Please continue this as a series of videos. These games don't get talked about enough outside of how "crude" or "difficult" it can be without ever asking the question why.

[@blowbackderelict]

Yes, the gameplay is amazing but lore is phenomenally crafted

[@bryguytyguy]

I’d love to see regular content about this game

[@hexsinthedemon9489]

I’m absolutely with this guy

[@ivanlugo8474]

Yes this video had the perfect length while also been deep and enjoyable. please make More fear and hunger!

[@timetravelingphilanthropis5274]

Second this

[@Royinszki]

"The will to remain strong, corageous and moral in the face of relentless suffering." What a beautiful quote

[@Precisionetica]

From Eliphaz Levi. “ Learn to Suffer”. Nobody digs in or reads no more

[@emilrossi953]

"and as we rise to face certain death i trust our successors to do the same for us"

[@sidewinder3694]

Where do the morals come from in this quote?

[@scrubmcchub2255]

@@sidewinder3694if you are facing “relentless suffering,” most people tend to sacrifice their “morals” to avoid said suffering if possible. The commenter finds beauty in the resistance of this sacrifice of morals in the face of relentless suffering.

[@Royinszki]

Bro i just pointed out it was a beautiful quote

[@richardhunter9779]

One thing does not get mentioned enough - Fear And Hunger has NAILED the medieval illustration art style and it is central to its macabre world.

[@criss3619]

YESsss, an animated series or small short videos in that art style would be amazing.

[@exu7325]

Maybe you meant Gothic? "Medieval" covers a period more than a thousand year and until the last century or two, the paintings look nothing like the art in Fear and Hunger. Even then it's only a passing resemblance, maybe the dull colors? It's unmistakeable that the biggest influence for the artist is Yoshitaka Amano, not medieval art.

[@blipboigilgamesh7865]

​@@exu7325you imbecile, I'm almost sure they're referring to the old folkloric aspects that some of the game's aesthetics cover. If you've ever seen the books of forgotten memories in game you'll know what they're talking about. And about the usage of the term medieval I bet you feel very smart for vomiting this pedantic correction. Everyone fucking knows what OP is referring to in terms of aesthetics: that period in time in europe that lasted around until the 16th century, before things like the printing press or oil paint or studies on linear perspective. Ppl probably don't know what defines the term they're talking about but most people are on the same page on what 'medieval, feels like, that is unless they're an arrogant prick like you.

[@eunuchma1991]

@@exu7325underrated reply here

[@stevowilliams8279]

@@exu7325yeah I have no idea what that guys talking about, this game looks like a Japanese rpg, not anything like art from any period in the Middle Ages.

[@remixisthis]

Fear and Hunger is a SEVERELY underrated game even outside it's horror tone. The game mechanics are really creative and you get better with each playthrough. It's a breath of fresh air for RPGs and a lot of game designers can learn from it.

[@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588]

Fear and Hunger? Underrated? Are we living in the same planet?

[@remixisthis]

@@whoareyoutoaccuseme6588 at least not popular. Still seems like a cult game

[@SyntheticShinobi]

Moron. It’s a generic byproduct of the RPG maker software. You must be new to the turn based top down rpg genre because there are hundreds of games with precisely the same mechanics. It’s almost like fear and hunger came from a cookie cutter that anyone could use to make an rpg of their own

[@SyntheticShinobi]

The only thing the dev deserves praise for is the artwork and score. Those are the only original contributions outside of average turn based rpg mechanics

[@shamusson]

​@@SyntheticShinobi Far from average game design wise, making each enemy a puzzle where you become better with the amount of knowledge you get while making everything mechanics wise fun to play is a feat in itself

[@BrentStewart]

"The will to remain strong, courageous and moral in the face of relentless suffering." I think this is EXACTLY what Sylvian expects of humans her favorite creation. And we are stuck in a vicious cycle of the old gods offering salvation (to pick us back up so we can try again) then fading away (pushing us out of the nest) and when we inevitably screw up again the cycle repeats because they are good parents. For those like the fellowship who think they figure it out only to fail in the end simply become one with the void - which is why there are so many new gods in the hall just stuck there - they failed the final test. Logic was a step in the right direction.

[@TheAstralCatastrophe]

I'd love to see you explain the correlation with Finnish culture, history and beliefs and why that results in some of the most twisted themes (not in a negative way) in indie gaming all coming from one country.

[@Michael-su7ip]

thumbs up to this question. fear and hunger. noita etc

[@BobisOnlyBob]

Void Stranger and Alan Wake are also Finnish

[@kathrineici9811]

Tfw you get cut into a million pieces so your mom has to fish out every piece and stitch you back together while fending off a swan

[@chrisdiokno5600]

Eastern European in general

[@m3m3sis]

9 months of dark and cold and a culture of silence and isolation does that to you. 35yo finn

[@iinkrott]

I'm so glad people are getting into Fear and Hunger now. It makes me so happy that there are videos like this being made- I watched everything I could about it when it came out, and there was never enough for me and it didn't feel like enough people knew how awesome it was. I saw this video appear in my feed and got so happy. 🎉

[@enxman7697]

Same m8

[@eduardoubilla4307]

I watched Worm Girl is videos about Fear & Hunger 1 and 2 and i love them, the game and the world it depicts it's brutal, but the fact that the characters can overcome the brutality makes it incredibly hopeful to me. I would love to see your take on the sequel and other aspects of this game series.

[@Parzivle]

Worm girl mentioned love to see it

[@eduardoubilla4307]

@@Parzivle she´s great.

[@somasatori9117]

Definitely make some more Fear and Hunger stuff! One thing about Enki that wasn't mentioned is that Enki is a reference to Sumerian mythology. Enki was the Sumerian god of water, a companion of Gilgamesh during the Epic, and created humanity in Sumerian mythology. Enki wanted humans to be made out of clay and blood using earth from the body of the goddess Ninhursag-ki and blood from him (or his son Marduk, depending on the legend). He was also known as the "master of all crafts." I found it really fitting in Fear & Hunger that Enki was named as he was.

[@dontlvang6369]

Я думаю ты путаешь Энки и Энкиду это разные персонажи. Энки это божество Вод. А Энкиду это человек созданный из глины созданный как соперник Гильгамеша из-за того что он был жестоким царем

[@Pudding404]

We have not delved deep enough when it comes to these games. Despite popular belief, it isn't hard or edgy just because and I love that. Crafted with love despite the themes.

[@haraldharam9334]

🙏🙏🙏

[@Tomorrowomari]

Im glad you chose to analyze this game. Please make more on this because the lore seems to go so deep.

[@StarlessAH]

You're my favourite gaming channel by a wide margin, you're always insightful

[@Yes-gc7hm]

New Max Derrat video? On fear and hunger? LETS GOOO!!!!!

[@CythusZ]

same

[@ezaf5989]

Grown man with an anime pfp is scarier then the game tbh

[@iamdoom9810]

Yes, please make more Fear and Hunger lore videos! Also, I'd really like to see you as a guest on the New Gods Podcast to provide your unique perspective

[@enxman7697]

That would be something!

[@yopoxikeweapescai9066]

Do more fear and hunger, is literally perfect for the topic of the channel and has TONS of stuff to look into

[@allourvice]

Would definitely be interested to hear more on this series. Excellent video, once again; very informative.

[@dantespimp]

Absolutely would love for you to continue exploring this game's themes, metaphors, and lore more!

[@GeekNewz]

I was honestly waiting for you to make a video about this game and was sure you'd made one when I first began watching your videos

[@dutchielander2478]

"Pressure creates diamonds" is the only saying i could think of watching the video. I heard about this game, never played it myself. But after this video i kind of grew more interested in playing it. I would like to see some more video's of you looking behind the curtain. Very interesting.

[@rev.ryan206]

Please, please do more videos on Fear & Hunger, especially its ties to Berserk (which is one of most important things in the world to me, enough to Brand myself), and the void (another obsession of mine). Thanks for all the great vids, your channel keeps me and many others going in dark times.

[@baroque1998]

This was a treat to watch, thank you! I would LOVE to see you make another funger video! This makes me so happy to see this aspect of the game being talked about and it's just one of many other reasons why this series is so cool!

[@dragonbro5607]

Incredible breakdown of this games deeper themes and lore. Would absolutely love to see more videos on the series!

[@heshamshrifa5839]

I have loved this series since its release back in 2019 and am so happy it is getting the recognition it deserves. Please do more videos as I find the themes of the 2nd game to be even more interesting than the 1st in many ways.

[@CharcoalNeko]

I love your analysis of fear and hunger through an alchemical and philosophical lens. The lore of this game is just packed full with it and it intrigues me to no end. So please do more, love your content!

[@J0sh00]

This is the video that started the Fear and Hunger games for me. I thought you meant the actual term fear and hunger and was so confused for a while until i saw it was a game and I thank you for that haha

[@azliaheaven]

i cannot believe you actually did a video about this game and there's a sequel, there's no words, i couldn't stop playing until i surpassed it, as if my life depended on it, as is i had to prove to the nothing that my will would remain intact,this game or probably saga will continue to hunt me. i didn't feel like this since berserk 1997 anime

[@MotanuClujean]

Please keep making videos about this. The games as a whole deserve it and you are the one to do justice to it

[@bigempty]

I for one would really love it if you made more fear and hunger videos. Your videos are some of my favorite videos on KZbin.

[@drf6377]

I missed this quality of your videos. Covering interesting games with interesting concepts like this one is what made me subscribe in the 1st place.

[@killjoyprose6802]

Thought this was gonna fly under the radar more, nice to see someone still talking about a great game

[@TheAlkhemiaStudio]

it was about time! cant wait to see a new video from u about this game and to hear your take on it's topics!

[@MrSilvart]

Please continue this as a series of videos. Thank you for the work!

[@THIRDEYEDROPS]

Great stuff brother.

[@jhit2026]

That's why I appreciate your content. Like you said "to enlighten" I too have looked for material that asks one to peer beyond the veil. Whether it's oneself or life itself, games helped me to remove the layers

[@Trashdogg_Smokey]

Thank you for tackling this game! Looking forward to your upcoming vids!

[@TheRafaeloctavio]

Been waiting paciently for you to analyse this game. Would love for you to do more. Thanks!

[@garfieldcouch4443]

Best content on Fear and Hunger. Thank you.

[@ektoras_fl4943]

I remember getting the game before the 10k downloads and I always said that this game is extremely underrated . I am very happy to finally see this game getting the attraction it deserves

[@GoJuBear]

Can't wait to hear your perspective on the series.

[@thenattygod6518]

Craziest part is that the game is so unexplored still. I referenced the wiki a lot while playing and there is so much the wiki doesnt have.

[@irateaaron3837]

I have to say, your video was extremely insightful to me. I would be enthusiastic to watch any other videos you’d make about FaH.

[@Shyningfade]

OH MY GOD YES! I've been hoping you would cover this one. (This is just as exciting as your appearances on Third Eye Drops!)

[@larrydavinci2844]

I'd love to see you tackle Fear and hunger again. There's a lot more to it's lore and themes within.

[@Thecoolguy463]

Keep it up man. Starting to become one of my favorite gaming channels.

[@CheddarGoblin]

I would love to see you go into a whole series about this!

[@CythusZ]

I'd love to see more of your view on this game, as always you produce wonderful content that helps me in my journey to understand more about deep philosophical or spiritual aspects of the world. I played Fear and Hunger at the beginning of this year and was waaaaiting for this game to catch your attention. :D As always, you're incredible, Max. Thank you for the work! xD You are the type of friend I would love to hang out with, have fun online, and engage in deep conversations.

[@Havac05]

Been waiting awhile for this video and its every bit as good as i imagined it would be. I would also love more videos on fear and hunger and fear and hunger 2.

[@stoneage332]

Bravo. I’ve just started playing, it’s brutal and obtuse, I love it. This video is spot on and well researched

[@sirlenemodesto2665]

Just noticed All-merr(?) looks like a marriage, also in his statue he has a stab in the middle of his right ribs lmao.

[@Iodestarr]

Yes. Please continue with the series. It's practically calling to you.

[@GodChaos333]

This game is so dang interesting, and I would for sure, love to see you cover more from this game and the sequel

[@Fenrisson]

1:04 - Ah, Kalameet. The hardest boss in Dark Souls, IMO. Or at least the one that I hate the most, because of how it leaps around like a huge cat.

[@scryerskunk]

I would love to see more of your videos on this series! You did a great job on this one!!

[@ravendelacour1917]

From Darkness, Light. From Despair, Hope. From Death, Eternity.

[@theoubliette9174]

I've been waiting for you to cover this one. It seemed right up your alley.

[@peteranatskiy7897]

Loved the video and excited to see anything in the future you do related to funger, keep it up king

[@TheLightensoul]

I knew you would come to find this game eventually, especially with the occult stuff and the sequel termina references collective unconsciousness in its lore. Looking foward to more videos. :)

[@PlattyGems]

Neat to see more and more people talk about Funger

[@criss3619]

"profound wisdom in undesirable places" we should keep that quote in mind whenever we find ourselves stuck while trying to solve a problem.

[@Davlavi]

Informative as always.

[@seven2180]

I've seen so many videos on fear and hunger, but this one feels so different and interesting! Please keep making these

[@nichelady263]

I can't get enough Fear and Hunger video essays, and your video has touched on depths to the game's themes I haven't heard anywhere else! I would love to hear more of your thoughts on the game.

[@andriana5311]

I was hoping you’d finally make a video about this game, my prayers have been answered !

[@Akrepi28]

Great video, hope there will be a second part.

[@hollow3900]

I hope we see more videos from you about this game. This is one of my favorite videos that I come back to watch frequently. Your breakdown of the story and lore is extremely well done with your alchemical interpretations.

[@CakeoftheMews]

After watching Supereyepatchwolf's video I fell DEEP in the F&H rabbit hole. I still haven't played the games myself (tho I REALLY want to) but I spent so long on the wiki just. Reading. The lore is so deeply fascinating and making the connections to IRL alchemic concepts was too cool.

[@neonintention]

​@@SmartCreeperain't that the beauty of it?

[@doritos4956]

​@SmartCreeper some people like that Suprise suprise people like different things

[@eeeertoo2597]

​@@SmartCreeperits trial and error because you suck at the game lol, get over it

[@greyblenaut]

I will say I don't go out of my way to look for unpleasant scenarios or gore, but when a game has an atmosphere that is so unrelenting, honest and complete, thats the thing that makes me want to play it. It's the same thing that made me love Silent Hill 2, Shadow of The Colossus and the Soulsborne games. Because the Funger series seldom pulls it punches and delivers such a potent feeling of dread, thats a thing I appreciate.

[@ryankroll9956]

Please continue this as a series

[@Bloodfencer1990]

I don't think I'll be missing out on any spiritual experience from not playing sports and racing games. Fantastic video essay by the way!

[@tokehn]

Please make more of these man! These videos are so insightful, enlightening, and awesome!!

[@ReapersPlug]

LETS GO MAN so happy you made a video on this

[@KeiranRoth]

Would love to see you analyze this series more. You bring a fresh perspective I generally don't find elsewhere.

[@Yes-gc7hm]

I would love to see your take on the story of the Sulfur god

[@inteligenciainternauta]

Your videos are so relaxing and interesting ( i know next to nothing about philosophy but i love listening to people talk about subjects they know well)

[@ivancruz8703]

God damn it Max you did it. Another love franchised. You are the goat.

[@remingtonsloan8331]

I've been waiting for this. I knew you'd get around to it. Every video I've watched about this has made me go "I can't wait until Max starts covering this."

[@fosterbennington6405]

Not enough media has good occult analysis, even if the media itself is full of occult philosophy. Always good to see someone who makes the effort to do this kind of thing. One series I avoided for a long time but found very good material in was in The Elder Scrolls, especially (but not only) Morrowind. Michael Kirkbride’s work especially (but again not only) was surprisingly in depth and rich in symbolism.

[@royalavera354]

Yes, please!! Was waiting for you to talk about it!

[@alilweeb7684]

I was waiting for your take on f&h and wow, was not disappointed. When i reached the end i was still lefting more, please make more!

[@AkaiAmeUltsch]

More Videos, I don't care which game they are about! You're analyses of each game are incredibly eye opening!

[@chrisdiokno5600]

You make many good points Max. Love your analysis

[@xydo4art]

Oh, I've been waiting for this video for so long... - Xydo, who's created over a hundred artworks and over 30 fanfics about Nosramus

[@kellytamia9152]

Loving more and more of these fear and hunger videos. Thank you for this

[@johncrang7026]

Dude you did your research too good! hope you succeed❤

[@matthewdickerson826]

Definitely keep making these, i just got the game a week ago and i have been loving the lore. Im actually doing the enki s run right now as well.

[@lordkiku2]

Man, I love these videos. And you seem best equipped to understand the deepest lore and references of Fear and Hunger. I'd love another about more, as well as more videos in general, so have a subscribe.

[@K1NGSSTH]

YEEESS!! He did the video!! I love you Max!

[@voxsystem6710]

By far the best explaination I've seen so far. And only in 20 minutes! You should definetly do more

[@skyrimdavid]

Beautiful dive into a brilliant philosophical discussion. Made me tear up a bit thinking about things, thank you 🙏🏽

[@Jediahgames]

This is the kind of game I would never have played if people didn't recommend online, but I'm glad I did cause it's a banger

[@gqueirogabr]

Same I heard about it from super eyepatch wolf too

[@KirkMauler]

I can't help but feel like the dungeon itself also takes various inspirations from The Inferno and The King in Yellow, Mah'habre basically being Carcosa. There's another King in Yellow reference too in one of the game's endings but I don't wanna spoil.

[@rhei0ne]

Worm Girl and Mauthedoog, and now Max Derrat. Yey! I love fear and hunger analysis and lore videos. Hey, Max try Termina next. :)

[@LethargicDeities]

That Passion of the Christ 2 earned you my like and subscription 😂

[@edd0125]

I would love to hear more from you about Fear and Hunger. You have such a different take on games that i enjoy experiencing

[@Noname0039]

I really would like to see analysis of Sulfur god. Especially his sigil, because it's isosceles triangle, sometimes symbol of demonic, that gives beginning to equilateral triangle, often symbol of divine, that gives beginning to the cross, symbol of All'meer.

[@shotgun1995hot]

Amazing video and nicely adding made in Abyss ost as well 10:11

[@maximilianoelschlegel4714]

I was so hoping you would soon make a video about F&H. Termina? Yes please! And honestly? I wouldn't mind a longer deep dive in both from you, too!

[@YoniSagi]

More F&H videos would be greatly appreciated! Old gods, new gods, ascended ones, alchemy - but really, whatever feels right for you to cover next.

[@Radamor]

The void aspect somehow brings to mind the arche of Anaximander - apeiron Lot of thanks for bringgin up all those alchemy/occult ideas lurkin in Funger! It'll a lot of brainstorming to look at other ending through these lenses