Fears grow over new civil war in deeply divided America

[@Steven-vo4ee]

I think no matter who wins in November there’s going to be (at a minimum) serious unrest.

[@FourDollaRacing]

Great! More members for the "J6 Choir" .... in jail! 😁

[@gamble-y9r]

Nope Trump will use national guard this time.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

@@gamble-y9r Even if he’s elected Trump will not be POTUS until January 2025, so that point is moot.

[@RogerMellie-yk3gw]

I hope so. Can't wait. Especially if Trump loses. It's going to make for some cracking telly

[@kingeddiam2543]

​@@RogerMellie-yk3gwwhile thats true, a broken US will just mean that Russia and China get free reign to do what they wish which then is heading for WW3

[@westsideisdabest7825]

If trump had died last week. It would have lit the fuse for sure, the country is at a breaking point.

[@Jesusandbible]

give me the top 10 division points then

[@KirbysRevenge82]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@JesusandbibleI don’t know if Trump’s death in itself would have lit the fuse immediately, but it could have certainly been a catalyst looking back on this time 50-100 years from now. Most people that think a literal civil war is close, probably have no clue what a war entails and how that would actually change their lives for generations. As far as the division points. Politics, race, and a general distrust of government- I think within those 3 you could site dozens of division points.

[@HM3Corpsman]

Nah it’s just the Wii Todd’s out here mixing with normal society. They didn’t separate us after highschool. 😢

[@BicycleFunk]

@@KirbysRevenge82 I think it is really just the right versus the rest. The only question is whose side will the military be on?

[@jamesrichardson6357]

​@@BicycleFunkwell the vast majority of the military is conservative it would probably be somthing like a 70 30 split in favor of the right . Would probably be about the same for gun owners and paramilitary organizations and un organized militias .

[@laurateaho-white9654]

Watching American politics is like watching alien life on a different planet.

[@ashok3733]

And which planet is that?

[@Mr_Truckasaurus]

​@peacenow42you kinda butchered that phrase didn't you

[@Mr_Truckasaurus]

@peacenow42 lol what?

[@JohnDoe-pk2hs]

.....😮‍💨 Try living it.

[@Jase29]

It's here in the UK. No need to watch American politics.

[@armymutt25A]

Notice that the rhetoric is always about disarming the law-abiding citizen. Never about going after the criminals. We have a ton of gun laws that would literally get guns off the street, but it's safer for the ATF to raid a suburban house than to patrol and raid inner city areas full of violence. When was the last time the ATF set up a checkpoint in Chicago, LA, or NYC and started searching people for illegal possession? Are they raiding the houses of known felons?

[@patcat2839]

Like Trump

[@michaelodonnell4869]

Blame the politicians and the media pitting people against one another for votes and ratings for years now.

[@markm3477]

Politicians and media OWNED by the uber wealthy....

[@HarryNicNicholas]

blame trump for dividing the country and allowing nazis to have a voice.

[@Kong_Wonka]

Blame the people for falling for it

[@RB-fh9cl]

Divide and conquer. Who is winning when we are divided?

[@krisinsaigon]

The people who aren’t paying enough tax

[@Colm-c2y]

Wankers.... sorry, I meant bankers. 🥸

[@Salman_Saho]

Small hats

[@andrereloaded1425]

Who is doing the dividing?

[@Colm-c2y]

@@RB-fh9cl the men with the pointy heads. YT removed my other comment. ☠️

[@officialVertYT]

I believe at this point it is needed it will be the only way for Americans and America to restore its order !

[@safirahmed]

Some US radio has adverts running that say 'It's not about gun control it's about disarming America'.

[@safirahmed]

@@user-ks2uo3qh7i Hal Turner Radio Show

[@andrereloaded1425]

Out of my cold, dead hands!

[@natesbored]

Who still listens to radio 😂😂😂

[@safirahmed]

@@natesbored Lots of people still listen to radio and radio will be very important when television and internet stop working.

[@natesbored]

@@safirahmed Maybe then but the majority of people have that up for things that are more practical (and ad free)

[@cmk921]

Luckily, we haven’t cared what the British think since 1776! 😂

[@proudsussexer]

Grow up and stop lying.

[@SmackheadGaming]

1812? 😅

[@patrickhenry7721]

Ah yes, the forgotten war. Wasn’t so much about what Brits thought as what the Brits did. Impressing American sailors, disrupting trade, arming Native Americans and so on.

[@chetisanhart3457]

I'm an American with 75% British dna. I was stationed in Bedfordshire. We care what the British think.

[@cmk921]

@@chetisanhart3457 yeah, we don’t 😂

[@GriefTourist]

Something tells me the usual suspects have already ordered it.

[@peabase]

We get it, you hear voices.

[@MonicaAnderson-d2e]

@@GriefTourist I hope you have set up your QFS account

[@gabrie4155]

There was a Civil War movie released by Obama this year. A lot of things in Hollywood is shown and they play in our faces. Simpsons “predicted” trump presidency and Kamala with the same exact suit and pearl necklace she wore in a picture.

[@chriser555]

MSM is largely to blame to how divisive society has become.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Trump heaped fuel onto the fire

[@l4zrh4wk]

I think you mean social media

[@chriser555]

@@l4zrh4wk fair, its both

[@chriser555]

@@Steven-vo4ee the fire had already been burning for a long long time

[@Steven-vo4ee]

@@chriser555Yes and Trump made it an inferno

[@East_Coast510]

I’m 15 and I really don’t want to live in this future. God help this country.

[@VibratingSky]

With the benefit of age, you'll see that this is people fearing the worst. It often happens that the future is not as bad people fear.

[@ignatiusryd2031]

Perhaps you have to start to consider options to moving out from the country tho. Many Americans did it this days by working remotely from abroad for months or years at whichever country allows them to do so while also enjoying many perks offered by those countries simply by kept getting salaries from US but still able to spare a huge chunk of it due to the lower living cost abroad compared with US.

[@firstlast8258]

Gawd bless Murica 🤓 🖕

[@East_Coast510]

@@VibratingSky Ok thanks

[@East_Coast510]

@peacenow42 Yeah I always forget about what the nation went through, we could do this.

[@fburton8]

Finally a purpose for all those guns.

[@Rase-iwnl-]

Exactly

[@ericeverett510]

That's the purpose of the Second Amendment

[@MrJunglebear1]

@@ericeverett510 That not the purpose of the Second Amendment, but if you MAGA people want to make a Move then Please do it make our day

[@Ithilienranger345]

​@@MrJunglebear1The purpose of the second amendment is exactly that you fucking retard, It's was YOU LIBERALS who try and try to fucking kill or beat political adversaries to death. YOU are the ones who are the fucking tyrants we just wanna be left alone and you keep trying to make us accept things we don't want any part of. THE SECOND AMENDMENT WAS MADE TO FIGHT TYRANTS. TO PROTECT OUR LIVELYHOODS AND TO FIGHT WHEN NECESSARY. fucking moron

[@drakecarter1780]

​@@MrJunglebear1 you will lose.

[@Somali1971]

The craziest part about this country is that they have unlimited nuclear capabilities.

[@pedrothewise2584]

not really, russia has more, better and much quicker.

[@Somali1971]

@@pedrothewise2584 At least Russian legislation on gun control restricts civilian access to firearms. However, in the event of a civil war breaking out in the US, there is a possibility that nuclear weapons might be employed, posing a severe threat to global security.

[@pedrothewise2584]

@@Somali1971 russia is a much older mature nation.usa is a child. an american civil war is preferable to all out world war, tho who would control the military in that situation .?

[@jonathanbowen3640]

@@pedrothewise2584 "better"? LOL

[@Steven-vo4ee]

@@pedrothewise2584Barely any of theirs actually work

[@ryanl3812]

Comedy. The overwhelming majority of Americans don't care nearly as much as you think. The fringes are just loud

[@CantaloupeJones]

That's one of the downsides of social media. It appears as if there's a revolution about to happen here but in reality none of those people shouting online for civil war are doing anything, and are just going to vent into their phones.

[@JoBroughton-yw7un]

But you are an extreme county always have been, from here in UK you appear to have no tolerance for others its either your way or the highway which ever way you lean very sad.

[@raynarks]

@@JoBroughton-yw7un and you believe it’s different here in the UK, really?

[@CantaloupeJones]

@@JoBroughton-yw7un Look at Harehills. What's going on there is extreme.

[@krisinsaigon]

@@raynarksno UK prime minister has been assassinated since about 1812, the Americans have had Lincoln, Garfield I think, McKinley and JFK plus an attempt on Reagan

[@elizabethwinsor-strumpetqueen]

Largest open air asylum in the world !!

[@peabase]

Preppers' paradise is upon us.

[@FadeintotheShadows]

Windsor confusing US with Gaza, but most foreigners probably would.

[@TheJmp1987]

Yea freedom asylum. Where else in the world can you be gay af while smoking weed and shooting an ar15. Then burn the flag and go home and eat a bunch or yellow number 5? 😂 Your comment makes me wonder where you’re from in the world and how much of my tax dollars have been sent to your country. You think the world is bad now. Wait until we (the US) becomes isolationist again. Wait until we become an oem country again. Wait until we get all of our energy resources up and running at full capacity. Wait until we stop patrolling the oceans. 😂 The world likes to hate on us. That’s fine. The Middle East will continue to eat itself and fade back into the sands of obscurity. The UK will become a police state. The CCP will try and run the world . But there won’t be anything left for the Chinese to steal. Then we’ll see who’s laughing.

[@thouxan5990]

*best country in the world this is fake news

[@ryv2484]

Well if Reagan hadn’t emptied them it wouldn’t be!

[@tylerhendrix14]

I took an oath to protect this country from all enemies, foreign and domestic. I highly doubt that the civil war would happen, but if it does, I'm putting my uniform back on and protecting my fellow Americans. Hands down.

[@phild8095]

I'm an old engineer who has studied history and a few other things on the way. Here's a Boomer rant on the "rumble". The numbers come from analysis of civilian deaths in various wars, insurrections and ethnic cleansing from the past 80 years coupled with estimates for urban vs rural, rate of government dependency for food, shelter and such, estimates of people skilled raising food. Normal death rate in the US between two and three million a year. A civil war in America, first year ten million dead of disease, exposure, malnutrition, poison and no outside help after a disaster. After four years, one hundred million non-combatants million dead. That's about 30% of the population. These are conservative numbers. And after the war ends, that two to three million a year would stay at ten million a year for at least a few years. Epidemics of childhood diseases would spread again. Last case of polio I personally remember was 1965, a kid named David in second grade. Polio, measles, diphtheria, cholera and other diseases America hasn't seen in nearly 4 generations would be rampant. Money would be worthless, all those bank accounts, CD's, 401k's and Roths would be useless. Infrastructure, well, without the normal repairs, 3 percent of everything would fail in four years. But there would be people who with the best of intentions would destroy communications, electric grid, pipelines for petroleum and natural gas, bridges, dams, locks, harbors, refineries, railroads, government buildings, hospitals, subways, airports and so on. Who would be involved? Anyone with an axe to grind, and there's lots of them out there. Racists, pro 2A, anti immigrant, immigrants, religious extremists from all sides, cults, anti-technologists, inner city gangs, small town militias, anti-Boomers, socialists, anarchists, preppers, vegans, anti abortion, pro abortion, then you have the foreign interference and peacekeepers. Everyone from NATO and UN peacekeepers, Mexican and Colombian cartels, China, Cuba, ISIS, Russia, Hamas and Hezbollah would want a piece of the action. They would all be glad to shoot, rape, loot, spread disease and poison, blow things up. Who would win? India? South Africa? Israel? Indoneasia? New Zealand? Certainly not anyone in the US. It would be the worst case of unintended consequences the US has seen. Whoever calls for a civil war and initiates it will go down in history with people like Slobodan Milošević, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot and Adolf Hitler. And because the US is rated so highly on charitable donations and foreign aid the famine would be worldwide. And there will be no Marshall plan to rebuild America such as we did for Europe after WWII. The civil war in America would lead to worldwide chaos and bring about a one world government even faster. But go ahead, train for it, publish manifestos, stir things up. Maybe that's what this country deserves at this point is to be reduced to a third world shithole.

[@johnmguzman7491]

Fascinating! So much research you have accomplished. Thank you.

[@ha5mth]

Seems to me the media ignores the fact there is a reasonably popular independent candidate that gets zero air time

[@dirtybird437]

and who is that person??

[@korypeoples3497]

Bruh I don’t get it …. like why can’t we push that person…both parties disgust me at this point

[@Maryhadalam]

@@dirtybird437Kennedy, West .

[@KizzieWiz]

Jill Stein! The media are deliberately blocking her out!

[@revelationendustries]

Thats because both sides are run by the same people. They create the polarity so we stay busy fighting each other over trivial issues while they advance their ultimate agenda to enslave us all. Order out of Chaos. Problem reaction solution.

[@benedictmarshall7031]

Basket case country.

[@Mehrian]

Welcome to United States of Israel

[@MooseKnuckleMike]

Yeah, the uk is a dumpster fire for sure

[@helenpauls1496]

Still evolving. It’s only 250 odd years old.

[@judjudersawn2596]

If we’re basket cases then why did you get on your knees and beg us with doe eyes and open mouths to save you from the meanie Germans… twice?

[@targgthewise2892]

Leftists ruin everything

[@RedneckNews-jh4hc]

Secession is the very foundation of America, so I would think every State has the right to dissolve the Union.

[@zw9802]

i agree with that. problem is that central government types don't want to see their power reduced.

[@CollaborativeDataAccounts]

@@zw9802 Or their stolen monies.

[@cyberpleb2472]

I really don't think civil war will occur, but as a Canadian, I am concerned about hundreds of thousands of Americans migrating to Canada.

[@igregmart]

Thats what many thought in the 1850's, but then 1860 came.

[@DarinAldridge]

We will just send you a million or so illegals instead

[@aerodyte6908]

As a American I can safely say we know Canada is already a shithole currently facing even worse problems than US

[@duroshebanja6810]

@@igregmart Yeah , & the wrong side won.We see that now. & in WW2 as well.

[@johnmguzman7491]

Build that wall, Canada!😅

[@michaelhearson]

Social media and the media in general can also be seen as part of the problem. It is certainly a double edge sword.

[@chetisanhart3457]

Social media/cable.news is almost the ENTIRETY of the problem. Politicians a zero without a camera.

[@Daddynfhjncftv]

Difference is back then they were men that stood up. Now people are scared of their own shadow.

[@MonicaAnderson-d2e]

@@Daddynfhjncftv Hope you're getting ready for the upcoming global currency reset and bank crash that's fast approaching than we expected?

[@danielfisher6501]

And people think Russia are the bad guys

[@Behindstage]

Putin is

[@aaronjones4465]

Bot

[@thenorseguy2495]

Putin are the bad guy

[@Alejandro-t7j7f]

@@Behindstageur mom is

[@The_king567]

They are

[@b1ztake]

Balkanisation is gonna be on my 2030s bingo

[@lionroar26]

Netanyahu is the true president of USA 😂

[@dhul_qarnyan]

💯

[@nuqwestr]

CAIR and Qatar are running America

[@emmap188]

Mohammedisapedo

[@lordvadertheleftie9703]

​@emmaperry1958 Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt/Truman all knew via military intelligence sources that the holocaust was occurring yet did nothing to stop it. I wonder why?

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Change the record 🙄

[@SheilaPiamonte]

Pray for America , and peace.and Love.prevail ..

[@proudsussexer]

Nope

[@natesbored]

We Americans are far far too lazy and spoiled to have a civil war. We can’t even get up enough passion to protest anymore.

[@olivere5497]

No tru brah sum of us love trump and we gonna protekt him from biden

[@zw9802]

the "pro Palestinian" crazies have been out rampaging through the streets for months. what we need is voting, not "protesting."

[@firstlast8258]

​@@zw9802mostly peaceful

[@zw9802]

@peacenow42 I'm not saying that it isn't a right, but imo, it isn't good for a society; it implies that more "civilized" means are not available or effective. just look at the news today; the places with the most extreme protests generally have disfunctional governments and cultures, and are not places that i would want to live in.

[@natesbored]

@@firstlast8258 as compared to J6. Gotcha.

[@eulerthegreatestofall147]

Blame the media if this event ever happened!

[@AndreDuncan-e6b]

Militia is in the constitution and the right to keep and bear arms.

[@peabase]

It's well-regulated militia. Reservists qualify, but the rest are just as effective as civil war reenactors.

[@joeds3775]

AGAINST TYRANNY IN THE GOVERNMENT

[@ryeguy7941]

​@@peabase well regulated as in meets regulation ie in working order ie working equipment and organization.

[@ryeguy7941]

​@peacenow42no where does it state well controlled.

[@peabase]

@@ryeguy7941 At a minimum, the National Guard would meet those requirements. I guess you've never served.

[@brucebest7846]

I dont think it matters who wins their will be Massive unrest.

[@AmericanThunder]

Preparation is more logical than fear.

[@carlrball]

The access to guns for law abiding people is NOT the problem.

[@MrKarlhub405]

So if two law abiding citizens use their guns against one another in a civil war, then what IS the problem?

[@armymutt25A]

@@MrKarlhub405 If they are both law abiding, then there wouldn't be a civil war. The reality is that the cities need to be dispersed. All this angst is coming from the cities. Out in the country, things are peaceful and calm. My neighbors help each other out. A white guy with a rebel flag on his UTV spent 8 hours helping his neighbor (a black guy) try to get his bull back to his house. Walked through thorny, swampy woods. Both were bleeding when it was done.

[@Kahneisha]

THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID TO KEEP A FREE REPUBLIC WILL NEED TO SHED BLOOD AT TIMES.

[@johnmguzman7491]

What was the context? That is simply one sentence. Can you examine the bigger picture?

[@porterwallace9541]

The Human Condition left unaccountable.

[@gamble-y9r]

Pick the right side its going to happen

[@Steven-vo4ee]

@@gamble-y9r You lead the charge

[@gamble-y9r]

@Steven-vo4ee Woke shut up I'll be there.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

@@gamble-y9rGibberish

[@kaytejacobs6717]

Pick sides? Like the people vs the government🤷‍♀️ that's an easy choice🤦‍♀️

[@KillTheRulingClass1776]

@@kaytejacobs6717easy choice for sure I’m siding with the people. You can side with this traitor govt.

[@alephnot000]

Social Media is 100% and modern technology is 100% responsible for the current state of things.

[@dclaw294]

We all see the writing on the wall yet refuse to believe it!

[@proudsussexer]

As usual...

[@john_atco]

So any minute now then..WOW. Who has the film rights?

[@nickyd922]

Hundreds of millions of Americans think life began in a garden with a talking snake. Including the majority of the supreme court

[@Jen-lg4hp]

Better than the ones who worship a guy with a 6 year old wife.

[@henryroman5415]

And millions of Americans believe men can have children. I'll go with the snake.

[@safirahmed]

Talking snakes rule the US!!!

[@LK-fu4ig]

and what's wrong with that?

[@lilrevo9651]

common atheist L

[@slpblaze0762]

Our second amendment is here to protect our first amendment and all of our other rights as American citizens also to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government

[@Joshes88]

"But what kind of American are you?"

[@ksj1526]

So here it comes, the Purge, and Trump and his supporters are The New Founding Fathers of America. Now I really miss the good time before COVID-19, there were lots of good TV series and movies which have predicted our current days and our coming days.

[@girthbrooks-lk9cq]

Probably. Probably be easier to just divide into two different countries at this point.

[@gt150glas]

Agreed Democrats on one side Republicans on the other. Republicans already have a constitution etc. Democrats will form their own and crumble very quickly and the Republicans will reclaim the country.

[@B1FFCO]

Blacks on one side whites on the other😂

[@johnmguzman7491]

Have you seen the intro to the movie Fallout?

[@smokey3948]

Getting American civil war 2 before ww3🫢

[@proudsussexer]

WW3 won't happen

[@Jclipcity96]

MAGA 2024🇺🇸

[@RobertStruba]

Professor Janney, at one of my Almas Mater, is right to be fearful. But from my readings of academics who study civil wars historically, consensus is, in the event, there will not be armies massing for the murderous charges. New tactics. Rather, more likely will be violence on more individual bases. Several points here. I will not judge, but there clearly seems to be a greater tendency of one side to turn bad feeelings into action, than the other side. Likewise, one side has much more access to, and knowledge of, weapons. Finally. most folks have watched individuals in the media, academia, government and their own communities, to know where target may exist, in their own minds. Many folks have even been cancelled, again more by one side than another. This is my biggest fear. Harm in the middle of the night. Let's all hope that rather than doubling down on silly unproved ideas, things will settle down, so that our still robust democrat institutions can do their good work instead, peebles. And don't be no fools.

[@anthonyzzz3013]

The civil war was the most traumatic event in American history? Tell that to the native indians

[@dinkknoingswrath4350]

Muh GeNeRaTiOnAl TrAuMa

[@targgthewise2892]

Hahahhaha ok… wait, where are they?

[@0li_vi_er]

@peacenow42 True. Also, it wasn't really a war against native Indians, but rather a genocide. About 4 million Indians cannot be compared to more than 600,000 real Americans... Not to mention that many of those 4 million were women and children.

[@JohnDoe-pk2hs]

​@@0li_vi_er 1st: "real Americans"... really, just wow. 2nd: "4 million"? Not even in the right digit.

[@0li_vi_er]

​@@JohnDoe-pk2hs 1. It's ironic, but I know I shouldn't make that kind of joke with an audience of Muricans or 12-year-olds... 2. Other sources give other figures, for Fox News, they weren't murdered, but fell down the stairs because they were drunk.

[@cameronnhaydensreviews1003]

Its gonna be red vs blue harris voters vs trump trump 2024

[@johnchambers2864]

This is irresponsible sensationalism.

[@RichardFraser-y9t]

Nope, I don't think so.

[@wamnicho]

You have no idea of how much anger is boiling under the surface, it has always been divided but the election of Obama in 2008 made things worse

[@ssuwandi3240]

Crooked media😊

[@douglaz74]

How is this irresponsible sensationalism the tension is there?

[@wolfbeans]

Oh, did you forget how human nature works?

[@YcuTubeLiesTooYou]

When citizen's feel oppression from the government a uprising will follow however civil unrest and civil war are two major different plays . America is already in civil unrest since 2020 and mounting since.

[@bryedtan]

Didn't they just had a fictional movie of another US Civil War shown in theaters just a few months ago.

[@4yenIsAlive]

Can't wait to see California and Texas to team up, If they team up

[@BicycleFunk]

Yes and it was so far removed from reality that it actually brought me some hope.

[@jamesrichardson6357]

​@@4yenIsAlivetexas would whoop california whole sale. Oil and water don't mix . Same goes texas and california.

[@jamesrichardson6357]

The president in that film was a so called trump like figure on his 3rd term and had disbanded the fbi . All propaganda if you ask me .

[@ryv2484]

@@4yenIsAliveThey will more likely be bankrolling opposite sides

[@dream2be611]

Absolutely we are. It will be traumatic again.

[@cameronnhaydensreviews1003]

November 5th is gonna be scary

[@josephscott1952]

This is a time my mom used to tell me when I was 11, 40 years ago, that the 20's were going to be the Roaring Twenties She said there could be a Civil War to breakout to preserve America again

[@rich1879]

Why is a Britain reporting on our soil?

[@proudsussexer]

*Briton It's called... FREEDOM OF THE PRESS

[@rich1879]

@@proudsussexer That's for Americans

[@proudsussexer]

@@rich1879Errr….no!!! It sounds like you need to read the American Constitution. It applies to all press reporting on the USA. I should know as I HAVE READ YOUR CONSTITUTION.

[@rich1879]

@@proudsussexer BULLSHIT

[@johnmguzman7491]

More neutral than FOX news or MSN

[@michaelodonnell4869]

Definitely 1860 all over again.

[@radiosi-su7271]

I think every Republican would agree with me. I have a RIGHT to say what ever in the FK i want.

[@FourDollaRacing]

Yes, especially if you want to get sued for *defamation* .... 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♀️

[@JustaDuck667]

​@@FourDollaRacingDefamation doesn't apply if it is truth.

[@WillyWillerton]

​@@JustaDuck667Don't say that! They HATE the truth.

[@backpackingamericapodcast]

If your country was not brutal towards ours, then maybe the proliferation of arms would not be so extreme. This is your doing.

[@Driftless-Ramblings]

Historical fact. Our culture and traditions were born of theirs, and how Parliament treated us in the lead up to the War of Independence. Spot on.

[@proudsussexer]

@@Driftless-RamblingsTHAT IS A PACK OF LIES

[@Driftless-Ramblings]

@@proudsussexer OK, what part specifically? The Intolerable Acts, Closure of the Port of Boston, Garrisoning Troops in Houses, Preventing Settlement Beyond the Proclamation Line of 1763, Giving Louisbourg Back to the French after New Englanders Captured that Nest of Privateers and Pirates in King George's War (just to have to do it again in 1758), Sending Troops to Confiscate our Arms in April 1775.... How exactly did Parliament not push American colonists into rebellion? The only positive thing I can say, is that it was objectively better living under George III, than under the Biden-Harris regime today.

[@Driftless-Ramblings]

@@proudsussexer what exactly is a pack of lies? I posted a comment just now that was censored, so hoping this one takes. Here's a list; Intolerable Acts, Closing the Port of Boston, stopping settlement beyond the Proclamation Line of 1763, restoring the fortress of Louisbourg to the Frenxh after King George's War (a nest of pirates which New Englanders captured on their own, and we all had to do it a second time in 1758 thanks to fools in London), garrisoning troops in or houses, and finally attempting gun confiscation on April 19, 1775. Yeah Parliament displayed awesome leadership over the American colonies. The only nice thing I can say, is that it was likely better living under George III than under Biden and Harris. At least George III didn't send 87,000 new IRS Agents to control every penny we earned, and didn't flood us with foreign invaders.

[@proudsussexer]

Grow up

[@rustshoo5068]

Identity politics is a big thing, a warped political ideology. America they say is a multicultural society; yet they say America is still “too white”, as if that is anti-exotic or an impediment to the good society. What would it take to create a United States of Europe? A necessary enterprise would be for the EU to have strong external borders. But the EU does not and so its mantra of “ever closer union” is like a stuck record as confidence in the future ever diminishes in Europe. The dream of a United States of Europe quietly dissolved some time ago. For a (continued) harmonious United States of America, strong external borders would be essential. Both Republicans and Democrats would have to agree on that. As things stand, with a mighty leaky border, the USA is in ever closer disunion. And it seems it is so just because identity politics rails against the “still too white” USA. That’s a terrible conceit and anti-civilisational. Moral grandiosity in action!

[@HappyHermitt]

Diversity = mandated discrimination. Inclusive = exclusion

[@DennisGLEBA]

We need a Secession party. I faced facts.

[@Mehrian]

Welcome to: United States of Israel.

[@nuqwestr]

Welcome to the United States of Iran.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Ok Pootie-poot bot

[@serenitygilles7064]

or Venezuela

[@HappyHermitt]

Shalom

[@IdesireNormalcy]

17 days away and im nervous asf

[@HUNKCULEZ]

You do know Guns arnt the problem right? Even if you take guns away from law abiding citizens still criminals can get their hands on guns easily. Part of the Constitution is we're allowed to have guns no matter the caliber. Guns are meant to keep the people safe from the government taking over

[@peabase]

_Well-regulated_ militias are allowed. Most Americans can't shoot for shite.

[@keithheaven7764]

The government has tanks, planes, missiles and other serious stuff...

[@justaneditygangstar]

@@keithheaven7764such a total idiot, you think Texas is gonna join DC?! 😂 you sir are social media educated

[@Dharnthread]

He talks about unity but Malenia won't even kiss him. 😂

[@titteryenot4524]

This _is_ unity. Melania is unified with the rest of the world in not wanting to kiss Donald Trump!

[@nuqwestr]

Melania has been married to Trump for 20 years and have a child together, Barron, they've done more than just "kiss".

[@ramstrong1961]

Glenn Greenwald Scandal at Washington Post involving Max Boot

[@Steven-vo4ee]

@@nuqwestrAka visit a clinic and have a prenup

[@arizonaarmadillo5829]

Whatever makes your head spin when you don't have drugs or a handy Tilt-a-Whirl, right?

[@karimtabrizi376]

I think if you ask an american in st most places its cost of living. The salaries of jobs no longer pay home college groceries and beer

[@Joey-ct8bm]

It does. On average you have higher saleries and lower tax than Europeans and houses are cheaper and bigger. You should see the gasprices in the Netherlands. We pay double what you pay. Groceries are expensive too and there's 21% tax on groceries and gas. We do have cheap health insurance and a good healthcare system.

[@karimtabrizi376]

@@Joey-ct8bm free healthcare in nl makes a big difference. Usa prices are insane

[@Joey-ct8bm]

@@karimtabrizi376 We don't have free healthcare. No free education either.

[@csharpe5787]

@@Joey-ct8bmbut a better standard of living! And a moral compass, with all citizens respected.

[@csharpe5787]

Would you sell your democracy for cheaper prices in the shops?

[@CathyDeenik-tp7uk]

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if there’s a civil war no matter who wins. One thing I can say for sure, we, the citizens of this once great country are living our own suspense thriller and it’s not fun. Having said this, the Lord Jesus is still very much in control of every circumstance and I can rest in that assurance. Praying for America and my brothers and sisters in it.

[@TheJmp1987]

A Brit woman acting like she knows anything about my country… lol

[@javelinblue5414]

Lol. I'm Canadian, and I know more about your nation than her.

[@justaneditygangstar]

@@javelinblue5414no you don’t socialite 😂

[@javelinblue5414]

@@justaneditygangstar Sorry, I ment your mom.

[@duckdeity9450]

I’m American, and I must say, everyone is paranoid. The only reason you might not be able to see that is because you don’t know the signs.

[@proudsussexer]

No she’s not. She’s doing her job AS. A. JOURNALIST

[@Nomaswearefull]

Let's get it on

[@michaelhearson]

This is being reported through a British journalistic point of view. In the UK, British subjects do not have the right to own firearms only for very specific reasons and then you have to jump through hoops just obtain that specific license and friearm. Plus, the UK are having their own political and social issues themselves. Its not the guns, its the political rhetoric and everyones feelings getting triggered and offended. Need to take it down a notch and stop living in fear and talk things through in a more civil and calm way. But thats just my view.

[@skahtty]

Tell that to the parents of children murdered with an AR-15 in their classroom

[@Marlboro-man]

​@@skahtty yes tell that to the parents that raise little psychopaths that think they can do things like that and they can do it with a single shot rifle or a revolver or just about anything if they would deal with the psycho kids that I know they knew they had those guns would stay were they were left like mine and millions of Americans guns do without the psycho the gun don't do anything to those children in school

[@Marlboro-man]

​@@skahtty them ar 15 don't walk in by themselves without a psychopath that everyone has baby cottled behind it so tell them parents to raise their children better and with more morals than that

[@daylanhicks9096]

I’m ready for it.

[@georgebushaway5833]

Well… It wouldn’t be how it was. It would be more like the purge…

[@un_gringo_excepcional]

This world is an effing joke.

[@proudsussexer]

No. Just the USA

[@lin90210]

seriously? broken america

[@yungplague3641]

@peacenow42you’re stupid there’s so much organized crime and corruption in our country and government

[@imberus5801]

​@peacenow42 There's a limit for everything.

[@Ramon_92]

American politics is just one big TV show these days its like watching a Netflix drama unfold IRL

[@GAURAV25855ify]

True or like a wwe areana

[@chachachazki]

And slavery wasn't equally traumatic to African Americans? I'd say the Civil War was ONE of the most traumatic events..

[@UndercoverDog-j5t]

As a British citizen, I am utterly exhausted by the relentless coverage of Trump and Biden on the BBC. The incessant focus on American politics feels as irrelevant to me as a distant storm on a foreign shore. Frankly, I couldn't care less if there were a civil war in America.

[@FuhqEwe]

Then stop watching, it’s really that simple. However, irrelevant? Every nation that interacts with the USA would be impacted, from trade partners experiencing inflation, causing prices to skyrocket, to small things a lot of people don’t apply braincells to, like the internet. The staggering number of online websites, services, portals, and games, would cease to function. Better start looking for your UK KZbin alternative.

[@UndercoverDog-j5t]

@@FuhqEwe Ah, yes, because obviously, what every Brit eagerly awaits is the latest scoop on the American election and Taylor Swift’s latest escapades. Why bother with our own politics, healthcare, or economy when we can stay updated on US campaign rallies and celebrity gossip? Clearly, local issues are far less important. So, I'll just flip the channel to that perfect UK-exclusive news network you mentioned, the one that aligns exactly with my preferences. Brilliant suggestion! Surely there's a channel out there dedicated solely to what actually matters here. Cheers to that flawless solution!

[@FuhqEwe]

@@UndercoverDog-j5t So which KZbin alternative will you be selecting?

[@UndercoverDog-j5t]

@@FuhqEwe Actually, Channel 4, being publicly owned but commercially funded, offers a refreshing alternative to the BBC, especially when it comes to news content. If you actually read my original comment, I was specifically referring to the BBC's heavy focus on American news, not KZbin. Channel 4 provides more balanced and relevant coverage of UK issues, which is precisely what I’m looking for

[@FuhqEwe]

@@UndercoverDog-j5t Read my original comment on your BBC complaint and relevancy. It’s quite relevant.

[@sanjayjadhav3435]

People of America amazed with civil war story's,now they really wanted to be a part of civil war, and current situation already in favor of civil war , every American dreamed about living in civil war, this is psychological situation no one stop this.

[@sanjayjadhav3435]

Netyanyahu speech in parliament is spark only ,the fuel already gather by American sure.

[@indefatigable8193]

And who is going to fight it? I think you’ll find the workers of this nation uncooperative

[@johnrichardson7280]

And mostly too fat to fight

[@realshannone]

Yes, as a woman living in this nightmare I have evoked my 14 amendment and have a nice collection 😙

[@True1-j3v]

Trump wasted 9 trillion dollars in 4 years and you all wonder why inflation rose? lol

[@YouTubecanbitemyhairybanger]

@@True1-j3v no he didn't that's an abject lie

[@thatguyclub2340]

It’s both parties fault

[@HappyHermitt]

😂😂😂😂 What an idiot!!

[@The_Fat_Controller76]

@@thatguyclub2340 No Trump is a republican.

[@haydenmatzkows4581]

"They brought death to my hometown"

[@rustshoo5068]

The only major stumbling block in America right now is whether Americans agree across the political spectrum that it needs a strong border. Did 9/11 mean nothing? One thing Tony Blair was right about was that if al-Qaeda (remember it?) could have used a nuclear device on American soil, it would have done so. If America is to remain being a light unto the world, a beacon of freedom, then it needs to act like a sovereign country in charge of and watchful over its own borders. That does not mean America would not be open to those who are persecuted and in need of asylum. And that does not mean that America os closed to immigrants. But a first duty of government is to protect its own citizens.

[@firstlast8258]

Murica

[@gaybowser4967]

This is a much better comment than I expected it to be and I respect that a lot considering your take at least appears to have the correct amount of nuance to me. The hatred for immigrants in America (and everywhere) makes no sense. More immigrants come into a country the better it is doing economically and the vice versa is also true. They ain't coming in and stealing jobs bcs there's still millions of openings, companies just aren't hiring bcs they have less trust in who they hire these days. And where immigrants are hired, there is an objective net increase in tax revenue and productivity. Though, yes, there shouldn't be willy nilly, let literally everyone in bs, immigrants are almost always a net positive on any country they come to.

[@rustshoo5068]

@@gaybowser4967 another reason for strengthening borders is to cut down on the drugs smuggling. The thing about the jobs being there: well, what kind of jobs? Are green policies and going full on net zero going to put a smile on the faces of immigrants with their strong and willing arms? Frequently the green activists in Europe are almost always white. The way they carry on, blocking roads and disrupting sports events, you’d think they are saying that no more strong and willing arms are needed, as in “We must cut back!” As in, “Ye immigrants, there are no jobs for ye!” Industry, construction, infrastructure: they all need oil and strong and willing arms. It might be not so much a surprise to see the settled cousins and ethnic kin of American nationality of those who seek to emigrate or break into the USA, vote for Trump. Especially if big business gets behind Trump. The key is whether Americans of every political and religious persuasion are prepared to recognise that America does not need to apologise for its past, and recognise that America was and should continue to be a great country that is a beacon of freedom and enterprise. To a degree the world must adapt to climate change. Why are we told we must all adapt to everything and everyone else EXCEPT climate change?

[@NihilistDevil]

@@gaybowser4967It’s better for rich people who don’t want to pay minimum wage.

[@LiberRaider]

Theres won't be political violence. Just "mostly peaceful protests."

[@niqqaa]

Hehe with fine people on both sides

[@Tonyscottpanda]

Woke ppl would never pick up arms lol

[@PatrickThreewit]

Just like in Ireland and Yugoslavia where so many people died with peaceful protests.

[@eugenegarrett78]

How is it people are born free and many men have fought and died to preserve it and yet so many just want to give it up

[@chrysalis4126]

So glad I live in the UK where when people get angry the most they do is set fire to bins and an empty bus, imagine if they were all able to buy guns at the supermarket?

[@JohnDoe-pk2hs]

You haven't been able to buy a gun at a supermarket since Walmart quit selling them.

[@ferntheyoutuber9960]

You guys had over 30 years of political violence where several thousand people were killed.

[@Britishempire-hv6rb]

At the moment yes but if the government don't get control of immigration I see a civil war in the UK because most people have had enough of mass immigration

[@firstlast8258]

​@@JohnDoe-pk2hschinamart

[@Durka-Durka01]

That will be the gimmegrants in Leeds then...

[@Stripe263]

The truth is, it should not be one country. It's a continent.

[@johncaze757]

Feel it may going to happen anyway regardless who wins.

[@michaelodonnell4869]

On the brink unfortunately. Wish the USA has better leaders who are intelligent and pragmatic who could work this all through and find common ground.

[@tiernanwearen8096]

Its like spain in 1936

[@ryeguy7941]

Viva Franco!

[@igregmart]

Franco was a hero of Spain and Christendom. He prevented Communist totalitarianism in his country.

[@aerodyte6908]

@@ryeguy7941y viva cristo rey!

[@BencerCourt123]

US will have a civil society or civil war depends on the decision by foreign lobby group that took control of US Congress..

[@prideofdurham4776]

Correct me if I am wrong.Didn't Don Don say he wanted to build the biggest and best wall to keep illegal immigrants out? And is that same Don Don now saying he wants the best diverse country , a president for ALL Americans? Did that bullet remove a few little grey memory cells?

[@nuqwestr]

I see no contradiction. We want immigrants, so does Trump/Vance, said so at Convention, but we want them on our terms, not theirs. Trump 2024.

[@prideofdurham4776]

You can get illegal immigrants "on your terms"?. Tell that to Starmer!

[@coppershark1973]

It’s not Trump you want to watch it is the arseholes whispering in his ear, what’s left of it.

[@karenn2969]

Americans do love guns

[@ronniew3229]

The American nightmare.

[@matthewparkes2336]

My history use to say to us "History always repeat itself , by studying the past we can predict the future "

[@fauziashah1978]

Most definitely.

[@tristan_840]

The A24 Civil War movie is really becoming more and more relevant. They even released it very timely.

[@goonch7956]

Election results wouldn’t be an issue if there were no electoral college.

[@YouTubecanbitemyhairybanger]

Yeah because the woke assholes on either coast ruling the country could NEVER lead to civil war could it?

[@arizonaarmadillo5829]

You should read up on why we have an electoral college in the first place. The country doesn't want to be ruled by California and New York. Educate yourself... if that's possible.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

@@arizonaarmadillo5829 Now it’s ruled by a few hundred thousand (or fewer) in a few swing states. Is that better than every American’s vote counting equally?

[@goonch7956]

@@arizonaarmadillo5829 I have educated myself and that’s why every vote should matter, so we can become a democracy instead of this awful plutocracy that we live in.

[@trevorwilliams3501]

@@arizonaarmadillo5829 I think they know this and that's why they don't want an electoral college. They just don't want to look like power hungry authoritarians, so they're trying to present it in a kinder light. They're presenting it like the EC is bad without saying it's bad because it means everyone gets a say instead of just them.

[@counseloridealist]

If it is, let's get going and get it over.

[@The_Black_Knight]

Don't use defensive tools as a pawn in political rhetoric. This is the common tactic of tyranny. Ownership is a Constitutional right in the United States, not a privilege.

[@FourDollaRacing]

....types the *keyboard warrior* with the *video game* profile. 🙄

[@firstlast8258]

Muh rights

[@litsci4690]

@@firstlast8258 Muh SLAVERY.

[@jamesdixon2857]

If America does, then best of luck to both sides. May the best side win.