Feat #70: Eldritch Adept (DnD 5E)

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[@unwithering5313]

Gain a feat that gives a light feeling of Multi-Classing without having to Multi-Class: Big Brain Gain that feat while being the same class that the feat is based on: BIGGER BRAIN Fighting Initiate as a Fighter (especially the Champion) Metamagic Adept as a Sorcerer (even MORE sauce) Eldritch Adept as a Warlock to get EVEN MORE Invocations

[@Zarsla]

That's what I'm doing with my sorlock.

[@unwithering5313]

@@Zarsla Nice, just a bit unfortunate that the points gained from meta-magic adept can only be used for meta-magic even if your a sorcerer. (WOTC broke their own unspoken rule)

[@lukeamparo6586]

How is fighting initiate for fighter additive? Does that mean you can have 2-3 fighting styles at once?!

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

Variant Human Eldritch Knight: "How about being two Wizards, a Sorcerer, a Warlock, a Fay Touch, and two Fighters at once???" Feats 8x: Fighter Initiate, Martial Adept, Mage Initiate + Mage Adept, Metamagic Adapt, Eldritch Adept, Fay Touch, Warcaster

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@@lukeamparo6586 Fighter Champion Subclass + Fighter Initiate + Martial Adept = 3 to 4 Fighting Styles

[@afasdfasafd314]

this is one of my favorite feats, i love to combine it with arcane knight or shadow monk bcs i can cast darkness on myself and then see in that magical darkness will fighting

[@lukeamparo6586]

Are shadow monks eligible for this feat? Do their ki points count as spellcasting as a prerequisite?

[@matthewtate4417]

@Luke Amparo. Dnd beyond says yes so I won’t complain but I would ask your dm

[@thespeedkingomega6357]

This feat gave me a character/npc concept of a warlock who makes contracts with Patrons, Said patrons give him power that he cultivates on his own until level 20. Then they give that power back to the patron to use as they see fit for a reward. Then the patron uses that power to enhance themselves, on weapons or simply create something new with that cultivated power. Because its easier for something weak to grow than for something that already so powerful to get any stronger. Basically its "I could do all this work, or I can let someone do it for me for a reward after the job" The warlock gives back the power, is reduced bac to level one and moves on to the next patron, be it infernal, celestial or fey. They will do it for the right price and boon (like a specific patron feature or something). I can see this feat be given to this person for every completed power cultivation contract. So this concept is a way to justify a free feat for a warlock player or an NPC with a lot of invocations and experience about the world without them overshadowing the party, because they had to start from square one like them. Basically it justifies an NPC of "legendary standing" despite the fact you meet them at like lv 5 and could possibly kill them without it being bullshit. And that's my TED-TALK.

[@cyruslupercal9493]

This is potentialy broken. For example variant human can have the best darkvision at lvl1.

[@lukeamparo6586]

Now humans won’t be considered too vanilla now. Them feats really promote a variant human build.

[@davidstratton696]

For a feat that is completely fair (it’s literally all u get and theirs way better feats u could pick like lucky). Honestly it’s good feat but I feel like it should do something else. Like raise an ability score (maybe Cha, wis, or Int). It doesn’t feel like enough. Especially since u can’t pick most of em since they require a prerequisite that u can only get by actually going into warlock. It’s a cool idea but the options r quite limited and the fact that it’s all u get. It feels like it’s really missing something. This feat is far from busted.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

Other Races do better for Darkvision.

[@anasexualdragonwithinterne2912]

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 the only race that has 120ft darkvision is drow and even then it only works in nonmagical darkness and they can only see in shades of gray while in darkness with devils sight you see normally not to mention if darkvision starts to become irrelevant in your campaign you can change it next level up

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@@anasexualdragonwithinterne2912 Blind Fighting Style gives you 10ft of True Sight, Darkvision, and the ability to see even if you're blind. So, unless the enemy rolls greatly in Stealth. Anything within 10ft of you will be "seen". This also stacks with the Polarm Master Feat so you can make an Opportunity Attack the moment the enemy steps into your Blind Sight. And since Polarm Master generally activates before your turn. Your Reaction is refreshed. And you don't get the draw backs of Darkvision with Blind Fighting Style, outside of range.

[@CamperCarl00]

This feat can be useful, if you get it without spending an ability score increase. Keep in mind, while it has it's uses as an additional powerful invocation for Warlock, it's offerings for *non-Warlock* classes leaves something to be desired. Several of these invocations are basically other feats with restrictions, and there's really only 3 unique options: *Devil's Sight* - Probably the reason why this feat exists. It's made to be used in tandem with the darkness spell. Of course, unless your whole party is rocking this feat, this style of play could lead to more problems for your team than benefits. On the flip side, simply getting dark vision on a race that doesn't normally get it is not necessarily a bad tradeoff depending on the scenario. *Eldtritch Sight* - Strong, but ultimately useless if you have even one ritual spell caster in your party. Heck, taking the ritual caster feat is a much better option and will allow your character to take on the role of utility caster. *Eyes of the Runekeeper* - Useful specifically if you're playing modules or AL. This is because pre-written stuff normally has obstacles that are much easier to overcome if you can read the warnings/riddle associated with it. These instances are much rarer in homebrew and may not even occur depending on your DM. Additionally, some are completely useless or simply don't work: *Armor of Shadows* - Maybe for a low level one-off, but if you aren't a spell caster then you can wear armor. The moment you get a +1 studded leather set you'll be changing the invocation to something else. *Beguiling Influence* - Why would you take this? If you're a charisma character you should already have one of these skills, and if you aren't, then why would you give up an ability score increase for this? *Eldritch Mind* - Warcaster is straight up better and Resilient (Constitution) could be more valuable if you aren't proficient in constitution saving throws. *Thief of Five Fates* - you can't use this without being a warlock due to the wording.

[@arikaaa69]

Having free mage armor with Armor of Shadows doesn't sound bad if you don't have armor proficiencies. For a water themed sorcerer I want to play at some point, taking the feat for this and flavoring it as ice armor, while not only being cool, sounds also like the best and easiest way to get better AC until I get Elven Chain, and this is probably also true for any caster without armor profs

[@CamperCarl00]

​@@arikaaa69​ That's fine if you want to do it for flavor reasons, but the same result is obtained by simply having Mage armor in your spell list. In reality, the only real thing you are getting by doing so is a 1st level spell slot at the expense of a feat/stat upgrade. This is due to mage armor having no concentration with an 8 hour duration. Even in the worst scenario, you would only cast Mage armor twice. Additionally, you can't swap out feats, which means once you get your elven chain you'll begin to regret not doing something else. A sorcerer's spell list on the other hand, can be changed at each level up.

[@davidstratton696]

@@CamperCarl00 I mean being able to cast mage armor at will is really good on the abjuration wizard since it recharges their ward. U could multiclass into warlock to get this but that means u have to worry about Cha and Int now. While with this it’s just int. Other then that yea I don’t see it as worth a feat. Like mage armor is good but not worth a whole feat slot. I mean since u can change it u could just have mage armor for a bit and then change it. It’s definitely really good early game.

[@gaelofariandel6747]

Armor of Shadows + Arcane Ward = full Ward recharge between fights.

[@geoxaga6507]

Variant human wizard to get the armor and focus more on constitution and intelligence to make yourself less squishy.

[@thecharmer5981]

And then be an abjuration wizard for infinite extra hp

[@zwordsman]

FIendish Vigor at level 1-for a bit seems quite useful for sustain. Particularly great for an Armourer I think. They don't benefit from the standard combat feats like other front liners; so it doesn't actually compete with other stuff that much

[@makaramuss]

I don't think this will be game breaking since they can allready add prerequiest of "requires you to be warlock" :D

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

As it is now... Such is not the case, RAW.

[@mathewgaspay5877]

I'm thinking of giving this feat to my Arcane Trickster so he can have misty visions

[@NobodyDungeons]

There are three things you pick with this either you buff your eldritch blast, get devils sight, or you get armor of shadow. Personally, I like getting armor of shadow on a rogue because it is 13 plus dexterity which means you'll never need to buy armor again, and you can wear cloths everywhere.

[@Dmaster2k]

You can't improve eldritch blast, because those all have the prerequisite of having eldritch blast, so only warlocks can get it.

[@davidstratton696]

@@Dmaster2k U do know theirs feats that allow u to get cantrips don’t u? Like magic initiate and spell sniper. Maybe some more idk.

[@chrislieu6757]

@@davidstratton696 If the invocation has ANY pre-requisite at all (all the eldritch blast invocations have eldritch blast as a pre-requisite) then you need at least one level in warlock.

[@davidstratton696]

@@chrislieu6757 Did u not read my comment? U can get eldritch blast even if your not a warlock. Theirs feats for that. Feats can give u eldritch blast. It’s like people don’t even read I literally said that in my last comment.

[@chrislieu6757]

@@davidstratton696 I did read your comment. The feat reads (in relevant part):"If the invocation has a prerequisite, you can choose that invocation ONLY IF YOU'RE A WARLOCK and only if you meet the prerequisite." -emphasis added All of the eldritch blast invocations have a pre-requisite (you have to have eldritch blast). Therefore you must meet the feat requirement that applies to any invocation that has ANY sort of pre-requisite. You be a warlock in addition to meeting the invocation specific pre-requisite. How do you get around that requirement to have at least one level of warlock? Is it possible you misread the feat?

[@burns1489]

Devil sight and cloak of flies on my tiefling Paladin could be fun

[@GeniusesneedLOVEtoo]

My dumbass made a human variant warlock and didn't take Devil's sight, well our DM had previously banned this and fighter and metamagic adept but now have unbanned it with perreqs .. AHA GUESS WHO'S NOT BLIND ANYMORE?

[@on_certainty]

shadow sorcerer babyyyy i LOVE this feat

[@lukeamparo6586]

Can this be used by Shadow Monks? Do the cantrips and spells used via Ki Points count as “spell casting”?

[@dawiddulian2403]

Nope, but the DM has the final say so that's that

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@@dawiddulian2403 Consistency is a precaution for the DM... It's a bad omen if a player has to step in as a Sub DM when the main DM is flipping too many rules in a terrible manner.

[@empty3102]

To be clear, you need the spellcasting or pact magic feature. Being able to cast spells or cantrips doesn't mean you have those features.

[@Redacted_Ruler]

Looks like wizard really is better the sorcerer

[@pablohorst]

How about spell sniper for a warlock using eldritch blast?

[@NobodyDungeons]

I love this because now my dragon born can see in the dark, seriously dragons have true sight yet dragon born don't even have dark vision if that isn't a grade A screw up then I don't know what is.

[@davidstratton696]

Yea they really messed up with dragonborns. Their breath weapon is quite weak (a max of 5d6 is weak) and they don’t get darkvison. Like that’s just dumb. Like that’s pretty much all they get is their breath weapon and it’s so weak. They should definitely have darkvison.

[@Oncus2]

Aside from Devil's sight, it seems a bit weak to me if you are not a warlock. You are blocked off by higher end level EI because it requires a warlock level, and some lower level ones are tied to specific pacts, or boost eldritch blast. You pretty much listed all of the useful ones, and I can't really see this being game breaking and even being game breaking in the future as more powerful EI will be for Warlock only.

[@meme0taker87]

You could also get an AT WILL mage armour and i believe mask of many faces has no prerequisite so at will disquise self

[@cyruslupercal9493]

At will mage armor is not that good but other at will spell are. Detect magic, disguise self, speak with animals.

[@chrislieu6757]

It can shave a warlock level off of sorlock builds.

[@chrislieu6757]

@@cyruslupercal9493 at will mage armor works with abjurer shield ability.

[@klebersilva9556]

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[@thelast4646]

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