Feature Comparison Ultra Portable Battery PA, New Alto Busker VS Bose S1 Pro, New Bose Killer?

[@TheFireman6]

You can turn off the voice prompts on the Alto by holding down the Pair and Link button together for about 4 seconds. You will hear it say "voice off".

[@jlo5443]

Super helpful thanks. Wierd how this isn't in the manual! (maybe missing in the UK version?!).

[@FM-ne5pz]

thank you for this video. looking forward to the sound test.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Coming soon! Maybe one week?

[@Mdogbrown]

EAGERLY waiting sound test! Tried out s1 pro plus, l1 pro 8 and Everse 8 at GC today. They didn’t have the Alto in.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Video comparing the S1 Pro to the new Plus: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqipf3Z_eZ2njtk

[@shaneberckman]

Great video! I am anxious to hear the difference. I got a couple Alto ts308 speakers and the matching ts312sud before I bought my Bose S1pro speakers and the Bose Sub1's and sud 2. I compared the two sets and the Bose was a little better especially considering the rated power difference. But for the money they are a great system! I have barely used the Alto speakers but i still like them enough to keep them . LOL so i am intrigued by the new battery powered Alto speakers.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Thanks Shane, wondering how does the Diamondboxx 8.2 compare to the Sub 1? I see no content on the Diamonboxx.

[@shaneberckman]

@WWeiss-nv5vz I really need to do a comparison. I will try to get something up soon. I haven't seen anything on KZbin so I definitely need to get to it. LOL

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Viewer comment: In response to some folks posting that the Bose S1 Pro wasn't loud enough, especially in the vocals department. Since loud and soft are relative terms I decided to measure actual decibel levels. The app I used is called Decibel X. It's a must app for all musicians. In this video, my vocal (Shure SM 58) volume is set at 3/4 with 1/4 reverb, which I changed to 1/2 after viewing this video and my instrument volume is at 1/2. What I discovered was this battery operated, 15 lb. speaker is not as loud as my my 39 lb. JBL EON615 which puts out 127 db max. SPL or my 41 lb. JBL EON One line array which puts out 118 db max. SPL. NO, this unit puts out only 103 db peak (did I mention it only weighs 15 lbs.) What does it all mean you ask? SPL stands for Sound Pressure Level and it's the primary objective unit of measure for output (NOT Watts). Continued exposure to SPL above 90 dB can cause permanent hearing damage. Remember that dB levels drop the further away from the source... the goal is to have a level of 85 dB max where the listener is, thus the reason these units have a rating of over that, which gives you some head room. I also discovered that this unit is ideal for small rooms with 40-50 people or busking. It's size and weight make this unit very, very convenient especially for solo or duo musicians/singers.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Part 2 Max dB comparison now online: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gojGk2xvlrKUjZY

[@kanaselmusic]

Hey man! I’m assuming that bose s1 bags can easily fit a alto busker inside them, am I right? It’s quite easier to find bags for the s1. Thanks for the review !

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

S1 bag will give you plenty of room to spare for cables etc.

[@kanaselmusic]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz that’s what I thought! Thanks beaucoup !

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Alto Busker has latest Bluetooth 5.0 for max distance -100 feet, not sure if S1 Pro is 4.0?

[@Mr740624]

I have two alto buskers, and love them!

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Do they pair easily?

[@Mr740624]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz yes…just press and hold link button on one speaker until flashing, then do the same on other…then they’ll link

[@Kroenicbleu]

havent tried the alto yet .. waiting for the soumd test.. had that bose at the cafe the other day for an acousric gig..it was quiet good but ill wait for part 2. maybe ill hear the difference

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

You will😅!

[@Kroenicbleu]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz yep. just watched one from another channel... surprised to hear it..

[@NukePooch1]

Looking forward to the sound test. I've got a pair of Everse 8's that I'm not planning on getting rid of, but the price of the Altos is very compelling for sure...like Mackie Thump Go money instead of paying the "Bose tax".

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Haven't tested vs Bose but Alto sounds cleaner than the Mackie! Mackie has a little better low end but not much. I already considered the Mackie had a nice top end and the Alto is noticeably better!

[@NukePooch1]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz Awesome, okay, now I'm really interested. I figured the Mackie would have loads more bass due to the 8" driver. Good to hear the Alto compares well vs the Mackie.

[@SteveSingerFowkes]

Looking forward to the sound test

[@yendorthetrickster]

I bought the bose S1 bag for my alto. There is a lot of space in the bag, do you know where I can find a case/bag for the Alto?

[@jacmusic71]

Chez Woodbrass, France

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

LD Mix 6 bag - perfect fit!www.fullcompass.com/prod/638833-ld-systems-mix-6-g3-b-padded-carry-bag-for-mix-6-g3-mix-6-a-g3-speakers?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAo5u6BhDJARIsAAVoDWtMebiueRPFgydS9UfHvNaYgRY4k-61prb8D6aIqZaKhPneYr0QfvcaAu7KEALw_wcB

[@harpreetsinghmoga]

Thanks for V.Detailed Review.❤

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Glad you liked it

[@joseruben777]

Do you like the JBL Compact?

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

No, I don't. I have always had issues with early red clip light with Compact. Speaker does have a clean high end.

[@marcserre2827]

I am enjoying your videos! Thanks for posting. I’m heavily leaning towards an Everse 8. I’ve had zero issues gigging with my Alto TS310. Are you using the Alto Pro App? I am curious if you could select more than on Effect at a time on the app? Like Reverb AND a delay at once?

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Everse is another league than Alto! EV App is #1/Alto App is Basic to say the least. No, I haven't tried reverb and delay at the same time. Probably not?

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Just completed my Max sound test: On Bluetooth, same distance- about 3 meters, same track : both speakers were equal in max volume. 99.8dB iPhone volume was maxed out. Difference was S1 Pro would clip red at anymore boost in volume/Alto volume was maxed out on main out and Bluetooth channel. At these max settings couldn't get the Alto to clip red. What this tells me, if I use a mixer to boost the gain further, the Alto has more headroom to spare. At this max volume Alto sounded perfectly clean, zero sign of distortion. Very impressive! This little speaker is a stick of dynamite!! At same max volume, S1 Pro starts to sound harsh.

[@jlo5443]

Hi, really useful finding thank you! Could you please explain for a non technical sound person what mixer I would need? This would be a pure cook out / BBQ speaker for me, so extra max volume would be great, but not if it means lots of extra kit,especially if it needs mains power. Is there a very basic way to boost the signal in over bluetooth that is small / batter powered? Thanks for the excellent reviews and info.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Yamaha MG 06X will give a nice gain boost, easily run off the least expensive external battery:www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MG06X--yamaha-mg06x-6-channel-mixer-with-effects@@jlo5443 At this time nothing out there to boost a Bluetooth signal. Running without a mixer, the EV Everse 8 at $750 is noticeably more powerful than the Bose or Alto.

[@jlo5443]

Thanks so much, I'll try it out with Bluetooth and if it needs a boost maybe run a Bluetooth adapter into the aux in with a little gain in between somehow. Everse 8 looks scary loud!

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Interesting idea! Not sure if a Bluetooth adapter will increase gain??@@jlo5443

[@jlo5443]

Tried bluetooth directly with the Alto I received today and I can easily get clipping to red from my phone (a Samsung android phone) so plenty of volume, no need for work arounds. Perhaps the Bluetooth gain depends on the source device? I've certainly found some Bluetooth adapters louder than others in other use cases. I found the Busker speaker very harsh in monitor mode and totally lacking bass. Putting it in 'stand mount' mode made a huge difference, much more pleasant sound and all the bass came back.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Sound test video, S1Pro compared to the Plus model. I didn't need the features so I returned the Plus model. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWPKf5xmnd16ick

[@michaelbattistamusic]

I have the Alto. It’s sounds pretty decent for the size. Using the app is not too bad. It’s not the loudest speaker but I bought it to do wedding cocktail hours playing with backing tracks and instrumental Spanish guitar. When I need to set up in two places I can use the Alto in one set up without needing to have any power and have my QSC PA set up in the other location. So when I’m done with the first location, I just pick up the alto with my guitar and iPad and walk down to the other location and plug-in and go. We definitely not use the Alto for any main PA situation. Would also be cool for any low volume quick solo gig.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Sounds like the perfect application for these speakers! Yeah, I don't think I'll use a pair of Buskers to Rock that High School gym gig coming up:)

[@jacmusic71]

Personne ne parle de brancher une enceinte supplémentaire pour donner plus de pêche..je veux l acheter pour guitare et chant, mais quelq'un nous dit que pour le chant ce n est pas bon..? Quel est votre avis?

[@shawn2571]

You can turn the voice prompts off on the alto. I bought the alto but channel 2 was just a bunch of static and didn't work so i sent it back and ordered the bose s1 pro. I'm thinking the bose will have better quality control

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Funny you should mention that! When I first got it CH 2 was intermittent! Seems to be working fine now and I usually use only one channel. Bose is the safer bet as far as reliability!

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

I don't think I mentioned, the Alto Busker has a USB charge port to charge your devices, Bose doesn't have this!

[@deehive]

what bose s1 pro lacks is a low cut filter...

[@Charleythegod]

I agree. Pretty pointless to use a sub if you cant remove the bass off the bose s1 Also I plugged in my upright bass and I couldn’t remove the bass unless I used a 1/4 to 1/8 adapter through the blue tooth channel but then you get no EQ

[@SteveSingerFowkes]

24 hrs only at Eco mode - 50w max

[@MariusMarius-qd4nc]

I tested them, alto has more power, but the sound quality for a singer is poor, bose has more bass, if you increase the volume it doesn't bother you, while alto bothers you, the mixer is weak in effects, for children it's good, that's all

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Bose worth the extra $$$!

[@SteveSingerFowkes]

Even before I've watched the whole vid, the Alto will win on features Sound quality unlikely

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Sound quality might surprise you unless you are a true fan of the "Bose Sound".

[@SteveSingerFowkes]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz I have the mk1 and the plus My intention is to use the plus in place of a mixer as I only do acoustic shows or backing track shows

[@SteveSingerFowkes]

​I'm actually using 2 MK1s and the plus as the mixer at the gig Fantastic sound kzbin.infoYRTAQcKUDNA?feature=shared

[@drivebyquipper]

Bose doesn't need mid-control. It's already tailored-forget your ear, it's not good enough. I'm no fan boy, pal.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Most musicians look for gear with mid EQ. Why would Bose add mid EQ to their top of the line $1,000 T8 ToneMatch mixer? Never could understand why those Bose fan boys would spend that $$$$ on a 8 ch mixer?

[@drivebyquipper]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz You don't understand the technology. Until you do, sit down.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

OK, I'm sitting. Educate me@@drivebyquipper

[@drivebyquipper]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz This is your right nut. This is your left ...

[@drivebyquipper]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz The mids are already optimized.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Alto Busker over Bose Sub1- my new #1 Micro PA! Of course Everse8 is better but much more $$$$ kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKq8eYuAftBlZ9k