Federal employees are being mandated to come into work 3 days per week

Sid and Meredith break down the new three day federal government work week.
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[@myowndrum286]

Boo friggin' who!! Cry me a river. They actually have to show up for 3 days a week? Canada would be better off with 85% of them terminated. Who the heck do they think they are??

[@gcc8584]

Very generous of you to suggest 15% of federal employees are useful and productive.

[@terryrobertson111]

Awwww poor babies

[@robbyd3892]

Unionized gov’t employees, that’s who.

[@taxicamel]

I'm not sure WHEN this issue actually got presented or how old this video is. I DO know that the video was posted "2 days ago", according to the information under the video title, which would be 06MAY24, BUT might in fact be 07MAY24, considering today is 08MAY24. Too bad these KZbin videos do not clearly mark WHEN the actual video is dated as to WHEN it was made VS WHEN it was posted. HOWEVER, ....IF any kind of issue like this, specific to PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS, is considered contentious by PUBLIC SECTOR UNION MEMBERS OR UNION LEADERS, ....then there is a very serious overall problem with both the UNION LEADERSHIP AND THE UNION WORKERS ......that may in fact be unsolvable. WORKERS ARE PAID TO WORK. Because this is UNON, their hours are defined, their breaks are defined, their actual work is very clearly defined, any "extra work" is clearly defined, their vacations is very clearly defined, their holidays are very clearly defined, the equipment they need and use is very clearly defined, their health care is defined, ....and every single detail about work hours and "grievances", etc., etc., etc., ....is detailed and defined. At the beginning of January, 2020, there was a public health issue, that led to sweeping changed. It is now 2024 and these health issues have been FULLY ADDRESSED .....TO MOST EVERYONE .....INCLUDING THOSE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN HEALTH CARE. EVERYONE should now be back to work as it was prior to the pandemic. The EMPLOYER IS THE ONE WHO DICTATES WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. WORKERS SHOULD BE FOLLOWING WHAT THE EMPLOYER IS DICTATING. ANYONE WHO IS NOT PREPARED TO FOLLOW THE EMPLOYER'S INSTRUCTIONS SHOULD BE FIRED IF THEY REFUSE TO FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS .................AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH UNIONS ...................AND THIS IS THE VERY EXPENSIVE PROBLEM WITH THE PUBLIC SECTORS AT ALL THREE LEVELS ...............THEY ARE ALL UNIONIZED. 25% of ALL workers in Canada work in the PUBLIC SECTOR. HOW RIDICULOUS IS THAT? That is the #1 reason why there are so many taxes being forced on taxpayers in Canada .....like the CARBON TAX to use just the one example. Not only does the CARBON TAX increase the cost of groceries to Canadians ...IT IS ALSO MEANT TO PAY FOR PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS! Getting rid of the LIBERAL party in Canada is only one small step. The BIG step is to bring the cost of ALL PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS UNDER CONTROL. .

[@df5826]

@@taxicamel It's 2024, you don't need to be a bum in a seat AT the office in order to be productive. We need to have a long conversation about work life balance and the needs of employees to be treated as people and not robots. We've seen technology enable people to work from anywhere and still be as productive as they would be in the office, so why do they need to work from an office? This is more an issue of control and management who can't feel powerful if they don't have an office full of workers they can see. We've also got real life examples to show us that working 4 days a week is actually more beneficial to overall health and productivity. Productivity is the benchmark, not where your ass happens to be while being productive. We need to change the way people think about work, that's where this issue stems from. We've put too much value on working despite being paid the least for our labour. I for one, think that being able to work from home should be the least companies can do to give something back to us as the ones generating their revenue through our labour. We need to be talking about raising wages in order to raise our buying power, back to the level our parents were at and talking about supporting the rights of all workers. We can't be divided by our politics, we need to stand together and TELL our politicians we want positive change. Stop letting our grocery chains gouge us, stop letting the real estate industry tell us we can't control prices. Stop being told we can't because some rich prick won't make as much money as he could have. Enough. Time for change, or our kids will be homeless and mentally broken by this rigged system.

[@charlieeco1]

As a tax payer these entitled federal workers who complain need to be replaced

[@MM-xg2td]

Good luck replacing 250 000 person....

[@Michael-pg7rv]

The federal government has increased their workforce by 44+% since Trudeau took office. Meanwhile productivity is at an all time low... Snip, snip, snip. Time to scale back our federal service members and help ease the spending.

[@timdumoulin2576]

@@MM-xg2td No problem, they do nothing anyway but collect a paycheck.

[@MM-xg2td]

@@timdumoulin2576 Says an uneducated person...

[@timdumoulin2576]

@MM-xg2td says an over paid spoiled civil servant.

[@doubledcanada]

It's a joke the money benefits they get for what work they really do . We have friends working in government and yes it is a joke .

[@bonbonvegabon]

Own your poor chocies lol

[@shaunaleeboyle6002]

​@@bonbonvegabon Maybe you should go get that education, your spelling sucks. And the requirements for public service "Education- the combination of education, training, and/or experience must always be included whenever this standard is required for staffing positions." Do you have any concept of what drives the Canadian economy? NVM that was rhetorical, of course you don’t. You wouldn’t consider the small business that served those employees for 20-50yrs prior to the plandemic. You know the daycares, dentist office, drycleaners, restaurants and the like…. you wouldn’t consider what the void that that lack of everyday foot traffic has caused to our downtowns, where most Govt blgd reside, while we watch them being taken over and spend less and less time downtown becasue of it. No you would just sit here and condemn people that want a regular working society that actually has to connect with other humans regularly. My tax dollars pay them they can get their asses in the office 3 days a week and do their firkin jobs. The employees that actually work don’t care.

[@taxicamel]

I'm not sure WHEN this issue actually got presented or how old this video is. I DO know that the video was posted "2 days ago", according to the information under the video title, which would be 06MAY24, BUT might in fact be 07MAY24, considering today is 08MAY24. Too bad these KZbin videos do not clearly mark WHEN the actual video is dated as to WHEN it was made VS WHEN it was posted. HOWEVER, ....IF any kind of issue like this, specific to PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS, is considered contentious by PUBLIC SECTOR UNION MEMBERS OR UNION LEADERS, ....then there is a very serious overall problem with both the UNION LEADERSHIP AND THE UNION WORKERS ......that may in fact be unsolvable. WORKERS ARE PAID TO WORK. Because this is UNON, their hours are defined, their breaks are defined, their actual work is very clearly defined, any "extra work" is clearly defined, their vacations is very clearly defined, their holidays are very clearly defined, the equipment they need and use is very clearly defined, their health care is defined, ....and every single detail about work hours and "grievances", etc., etc., etc., ....is detailed and defined. At the beginning of January, 2020, there was a public health issue, that led to sweeping changed. It is now 2024 and these health issues have been FULLY ADDRESSED .....TO MOST EVERYONE .....INCLUDING THOSE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN HEALTH CARE. EVERYONE should now be back to work as it was prior to the pandemic. The EMPLOYER IS THE ONE WHO DICTATES WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. WORKERS SHOULD BE FOLLOWING WHAT THE EMPLOYER IS DICTATING. ANYONE WHO IS NOT PREPARED TO FOLLOW THE EMPLOYER'S INSTRUCTIONS SHOULD BE FIRED IF THEY REFUSE TO FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS .................AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH UNIONS ...................AND THIS IS THE VERY EXPENSIVE PROBLEM WITH THE PUBLIC SECTORS AT ALL THREE LEVELS ...............THEY ARE ALL UNIONIZED. 25% of ALL workers in Canada work in the PUBLIC SECTOR. HOW RIDICULOUS IS THAT? That is the #1 reason why there are so many taxes being forced on taxpayers in Canada .....like the CARBON TAX to use just the one example. Not only does the CARBON TAX increase the cost of groceries to Canadians ...IT IS ALSO MEANT TO PAY FOR PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS! Getting rid of the LIBERAL party in Canada is only one small step. The BIG step is to bring the cost of ALL PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS UNDER CONTROL. .

[@jreinc1]

Having worked equally in private and public sectors this line and thought, like many others, is so wrong. You want the best working for your country, not app supporters, and the reason private gets less is because businesses only pay what they have to. By continuing to send them into work when they can easily work from home is now wasting millions of tax dollars on facilities, offices, all the stuff that goes into rent utilities etc. wasted. Clue - private sector that moved people to work from home will not be returning them to office due to the expense. It's a vote grab, to support

[@shaunaleeboyle6002]

@@jreinc1 There is far more incentive to "do your job" in the private sector. And there are 1000's of small business from dentists to dry cleaners to restaurants that depend on the foot traffic that comes with being downtown which in any major city is hugely impacted by the federal govt employees who are almost all downtown...have you seen the deterioration of our city cores??? Did you notice when that decay started??? These empty buildings are apocalyptic….and are you thinking moving 100,000’sppl in to those condensed environments is a good idea?? Its not…our downtown cores will be nothing but “projects” inside a decade. They can get their butts in the office 3 days week.

[@fraz2983]

I've been trying to get a hold of a CRA guy who is assigned to my file for over two months now. His # goes direct to voice mail every time I call... and I've left 9 messages. No return calls. F'ing ridiculous that me & everyone else's tax dollars are paying for this crap and the cost of it goes up annually along with the amount of them. Cut the FED by 40%.

[@joedoggie9098]

check the golf course

[@nooa69]

None of them are actually working. It's a 4+ hour wait on the phone to talk to anyone.

[@rayneboone9696]

The passport backlog started with work from home. Get them back in to the office and clear up the backlog.

[@Borninafire]

The passport backlog started because of the avalanche of people applying for their passport after restrictions were opened up. The workers were considered "essential" and remained in office. The more you know...

[@Headinavise]

How does that work. I get more work done at home ? ?? !

[@sleepinglioness5754]

Who is supervising these civil servants when they're at home? Eliminate 1/2 management because supervisors are obviously redundant. No wonder why people don't have social skills.

[@binaryblade2]

Why would managers become redundant when employees work from home? Managers allocate resources and evaluate work product, that requirement doesn't change when work is performed offsite. If anything, the easiest way to identify useless bloat in management is to focus on those calling for in office work. Managers that require staff to be in office are depending on thing like "looking busy" to assess progress rather than actually examining throughput and are thus useless.

[@Headinavise]

You really don't know how remote work works. Everything is monitored, time stamped there is a written record of everything you do using government computers and software. What a dumb comment. Social skills : so you have to sit beside someone to have social skills ? Lame.

[@rush7805]

Automate allocate resources. There is nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, unique about federal employee work. There is zero creative thinking required by 80% of federal employees. Reminds on that saying, "Useful idiots".

[@Headinavise]

@@rush7805 You need to get laid ...

[@binaryblade2]

@rush7805 your right in that there is nothing unique about federal work. But if that's true, why do you propose to automate things that aren't automated anywhere else?

[@mhogan5246]

This is impacting all federal employees in all provinces and territories across Canada bc the businesses in downtown Ottawa are not as profitable as they were pre-pandemic.

[@MaryM70]

While I agree disaster is a big word, I disagree with your opinion. Working from home means not having to fight traffic or waiting for the next TTC Bay bus (or) 3 because they are too full during rush hour. This means going to work and getting home at a better hour, in a better mood, eating at a more reasonable time, being able to throw in a load of laundry on your lunch time before you eat and generally being healthier because you don't have to worry about the uncontrollable temperature at the office or your colleague who is sharing their germs with you....not to mention the dollars spent on 'office attire'. If you're lucky, you might even have the flexibility to pick up your kids from school. There's a better work life balance, better mental state and in some cases, a lot of money to be saved by working from home everyday. Why go to work to have the same conversation you would have in a virtual meeting?

[@willeatforfood69]

well the drilling rigs are hiring if they don't like it. No traffic, stay in a camp, all your meals made for you, you get driven to work. Get to be outside in the nice fresh crisp -40c air.

[@mikeohagan2206]

then they can afford a pay cut if they are saving so much time and inconvenience. work when you feel like it doesnt work for the ones who have to wait for hours to get an answer on the phone. government and municipal jobs are the highest paid for unskilled work.

[@bengt_axle]

So then you would agree that a salary cut is in order because there are so many advantages for the worker?

[@mikeohagan2206]

@@bengt_axle you dont have to travel to work. get dressed. stop when you feel like it. do a load of laundry. when you go on strike you complain about rising expenses. going to work is an expense that everyone else pays. covid is over going back to work for 3 days is not too hard. yes gov and municipal workers are overpaid for the most part. having to actually show up would be nice. i doubt that more work gets done. dont be so spoiled.

[@rdhudon7469]

Bottom line , productivity drops and public servants are overpaid by 30%+ ...get back to work , your feelings are irrelevant .

[@AclypseOfReason]

If I worked with Sid I would mandate myself to another job….

[@ambassadoroftruth99]

I'm not a fan of Sid, but he's right about this.

[@bonbonvegabon]

@@ambassadoroftruth99 NO hes not hes just jealous like all whiny rightwingers of us libs who wfh lol

[@rv2167]

I used to work for the federal auditor and was even briefly a union president. The federal unions are the greatest terrorist organizations in Canada. We have about 7 federal employees for every actual necessary job. They never get fired. We paid 80,000 federal workers to stay home during covid. Not work from home, just stay home. We need to ban all federal unions, fire about 75% of all bureaucrats and save the country. We cannot afford the trillion plus in defined benefit pensions that the federal bureaucrats paid very little into. This is not included in our federal debt figure as it is a future expense. We also cannot afford to pay all these golden salaries to people that contribute nothing.

[@markfurlong9542]

you do know that these employees are still working, right? they are not on a vacation. working from home means that they don't have to spend time commuting. they save on gas and parking. they don't risk getting into an accident trying to make it into the office during bad weather. they found a better way of working. why force people back? there may be legit reasons for some people to physically go to a specific location, like to physically repair equipment, or to interract with physical paperwork, or do lab work, but if the job is strictly over the phone or online, what is the benefit?

[@thepassionfruitdiariessuzi6978]

There are companies that prefer WFH because it saves money. The government should do the same. The Lowe government levels are still allowing WFH, especially those in CRA

[@rdhudon7469]

The best way to save money would be to reduce the size of government by at least 50 % . If someone does not like their job description they can leave. Such simple jobs are easily filled .

[@samg8012]

It doesn't save the government any money when they have to hire tens of thousands more people to do the job cuz they are all working half assed at home. Eliminate 50% of the public service jobs and put the rest back in the office where they can be monitored to actually put in a full work day.

[@leaharchambault5796]

Getting rid of 50% of government workers mean you expect the remaining workers to have their job duties DOUBLED for no extra pay. Lol, would YOU accept that? Of course not. Being physically present in the environment does not mean you are doing more work- “where they can be monitored to actually put in a full work day”, do YOU need to be monitored to do YOUR work? or are you just assuming you are the only person with good work ethics.

[@Loawercs31]

​@leaharchambault5796 The government is way over staffed as it is. Updated processes, automation and AI would comfortably cover that 50% that was fired. The job market would be flooded in Ottawa if they went ahead with it, but that is another problem.

[@ernestjensen3238]

That's a B's statement

[@user-pp1ln8lr5l]

Government offices are vacated all over the place, you can`t get a answer from people on the phone, get them back into the buildings, so at less we can get some answers. Show me that they are really working.

[@xathlak]

Tell me you know nothing about how a modern office works without actually saying it... Metrics are how they're done. There's no office anywhere anymore where someone looms over your shoulder and manually tracks your work. It's all tracked by the system and anyone who is slacking sticks out on a graph like a sore thumb.

[@ricladouceur6202]

Most call centre's were staffed by people working from home way before the pandemic! It's pretty easy to determine based on metrics those who aren't working! There are a hundred thousand Federal employees working in the field every day. How are they managed if the only way you can manage people is having them in the office. This is about taking away costly, time consuming commutes not about the work.

[@user-pp1ln8lr5l]

@@xathlak I sooner meet someone, face to face and get answers, then call and be on hold many times, in my city, there`s 3 government offices that are closed, 1 TAX department, 2 Support and Customer, 3 Ontario Works. There could be more programs that are closed, it`s like saying, why write a letter, when you can just text, or why get any mail, when you can get it on your computer, or why go grocery shopping, when you have to check out yourself. If your paying someone to do a job, wouldn`t it be better to at less talk to them face to face?

[@xathlak]

@user-pp1ln8lr5l John Henry tried to fight progress as well. It didn't go so well for him. Things are different and we have the tools to collaborate even when remote

[@rush7805]

@@xathlak Government work metrics are not the same as modern office work metrics. That's why you don't hear about lazy private sector works. They get fired. Unionized government workers on the other hand are inherently lazy and produce nothing that moves the GDP needle. They're rewarded for being "useful idiots".

[@higheyeq2670]

I think a lot of people realized how much time of their lives they waste commuting and getting ready for work. A lot of people commute an hour each way cause they can't afford to live near their job. On top of that, commuting can be expensive, especially with the cost of gas. So I can see why many workers are extremely resistant to going back, especially if productivity has stayed the same. I think companies should provide evidence that shows productivity has decreased, but I doubt they have it. I think they just feel like they can control people less so they don't like it, whether that's true or not.

[@leaharchambault5796]

“ think companies should provide evidence that shows productivity has decreased, but I doubt they have it. I think they just feel like they can control people less so they don't like it, whether that's true or not.”. BINGO- need to control others, even if it provides no actual professional benefit.

[@CanadianEhHole]

I find it a disgrace that employees, regular people, cannot at least have their cost of daily work travel tax exempt. "It would be easy to abuse." -- Welcome to how the tax system works for politicians, a lot of government employees, and business owners.

[@higheyeq2670]

@@CanadianEhHole Interesting point. I own a business and a lot of things can be written off as a business expense. On top of that, things you buy for business give you an HST credit. So why not employee's business expenses?

[@stevenpyne1994]

Oh, yes!: the "cost of gas"! I suppose if you are not commuting to work, the employer can disregard that cost in your wages; save the company some cash!

[@higheyeq2670]

@@stevenpyne1994 Between gas + parking, or public transit the cost can easily be hundreds a month. I used to watch dad spend 400 a month on train tickets to work. So it’s not a nominal fee by any means. Also, having commuting be a business expense wouldn’t be on the employers dime. It’d be a tax credit, just like for businesses. So don’t imply I’m expecting business owners to pay for everything.

[@JSRTales]

thats insane, remote work should be an option to who want it comon this is 2024 not 1800s

[@bonbonvegabon]

Conservatives destroy everything

[@user-yl6gk7oy5f]

It’s a disaster because the employer promised to discuss it. There is no space to accommodate the employees across the country. Many were remote prior to the pandemic, and have been forced to work in, to still work alone. It doesn’t make sense.

[@jdkrxw]

You are dead wrong on e.v.e.r.y. point. And super dead wrong about not having space.

[@ernestjensen3238]

Here is your discussion show up do your job or I will find someone who will

[@Headinavise]

@@jdkrxw There is space in my apartment. Don't need to be at a building to do my job. If that bothers you you need to check what is making you so jealous about other peoples lives.

[@bilsid]

makes 💯 sense

[@leaharchambault5796]

@@ernestjensen3238 Then you will get an unqualified, untrained person who doesn't mind being treated like that. People with training and education won't accept that treatment.

[@nooa69]

Why were they ever allowed to work from home in the first place?? They're taking our private financial info home. What guarantees do we have that someone else wont get access to that ffs??

[@fahadqureshi8206]

Some positions if it requires collaboration... if there is no collaboration required, then they should be remote

[@ernestjensen3238]

If they don't need to be in the office they don't need a job

[@bertcour]

Federal employees have been going to work this whole time. What is at issue is the number of days in office, not the number of days at work. Words matter. BT. Agreements made through collective bargaining matter Mr. Trudeau. What federal employees are mad about is the lack of consultation and the sweeping implementation without a review to see where more in office days make sense. The decision was purely political. BT, do your job properly and provide balances coverage on the actual issue, don’t just soapbox.

[@user-fb8ef5tc2r]

Everything is working just fine since covid. Why force people to go back to the office ? To keep real estate more expensive ??!!

[@cb2199]

They worked 5 days a week and never said a word. When this damn pandemic happened sitting at home wasn't forever. So they now complain of going back 3 days. They get good health insurance etc etc. I'm a tax payer that pays you. So get your asses in the building.

[@andrewmachado6988]

If you’re being asked to go to the office 3 times a week, you may not like it, but shut up and do it. Most people never had that luxury during the pandemic and a lot of people lost their jobs. Be happy you have a job still. The real reason a lot of these “work from home” people don’t want to return to the office because they’ve been abusing the privilege and getting away with it (ie. supposed to be working meanwhile theyre out doing personal things that aren’t work related).

[@almad4355]

Exactly

[@rfastkats924]

I have seen or been told by the Fed employees we know, they go for a hike, walk their dog at the beach, go fishing, go shopping or go to their lakeside cabin. They say they have a quota to fill and when that is full they are off the clock. Of course they think it is great. No wonder the civil servant service is at a all time low.

[@rush7805]

@@rfastkats924 They also seem to have the time to comment on KZbin during work hours.

[@jethro7878]

Somethings gonna break if those expensive commercial building continue to sit empty.

[@shaunh2015]

Every single person, public or private sector whos job can be accomplished from home should be able to choose if they come in or not. Not only does it save the environment, reduce company overhead costs, increase you candidate labor pool, reduce traffic congestion and significancy improve work/life balance, it also absolutely does lead to more productivity. The problem is it takes a different management style and these Boomers wont give up on their desk leaning helicopter parenting style management.

[@rdhudon7469]

Bosses and owners call the shots not employees . If they don`t like it then they don`t have to take the job . Everyone is replaceable .

[@leaharchambault5796]

@rdhudon7469 “Everyone is replaceable.” yes, including bosses and owners who treat their workforce badly leading to high turnover. They can replace them with bosses who are actually interested in getting the best work from folks, and inspiring ppl to work harder, not control freaks whose attitude is “you are all replaceable” they tend to get MO respect from employees because they show no respect to employees lol.

[@jonathanandrew2909]

Why not move them to the third-world and pay them third-world compensation then? Think of all the further savings.

[@knowwhey7559]

Every person in our office that's under 40, takes a couple of 'sick' days a month. I'm supposed to believe they can be trusted working from home? More like Instagram, vaping and loud music...

[@Borninafire]

@@knowwhey7559 This reflects the company that you keep, more than anything. These people are probably as productive as you are while you sit in your cubicle trying to figure out how to download and open up a PDF.

[@HungKimPham]

Employees are paid to work. When and where they work should be decided by their employers. If the employees are not happy, they can always quit.

[@grjohnstone]

By forcing them to go to 60% in September, that would put them over 50% in the office - thus disqualifying them from a tax credit. This represents a financial hit to many workers. The union negotiated the on site presence requirements in the collective agreement, to arbitrarily change it costing the employees money is something the union shouldn't be able to abide.

[@samg8012]

There is no more work from home tax credit. You can now only claim qualifying expenses by completing a form T2200, and you are only eligible to do so if you are REQUIRED to work from home. NONE of them are required to do so, they simply want to. Big difference. This is a simple matter that the public funded employees have gotten used to sitting at home, watching TV or going out to the mall while on work hours and they just don't want to give up their easy work day. And they have their 3.5% annual increase. Private sector have been back to the office for a long time, and most with no pay increase. If going back to work is too expensive for them, then maybe they should stop voting for trudeau, who is making it expensive to commute.

[@Headinavise]

Oh wow...a big tax credit. Made no difference buddy. I pay for internet and power. I save tax payers money working from home. People are jealous and just like to complain. Nothing new.

[@grjohnstone]

@@samg8012 The federal government has reduced its office space by quite alot. I am told that in the remaining offices there are workers who are forced to set up in a hallway or in a cafeteria. That is at the current rate of 40% attendance. Due to a lack of cubicals, they are asked to work from home. As for the required: "For 2023, if an employee has voluntarily entered into a formal telework arrangement with their employer, the employee is considered to have been required to work from home." search t2200 requirements. The second requirement is the 50%. As an aside, I agree with you on not voting Liberal as they are the ones making things more expensive. That said I am of the opinion that a deal is a deal and changing the terms of a deal after one party is obligated is "conversion". I feel such practices are unethical, but what is another ethics scandal for the Trudeau government.

[@hughjass1044]

It's the union and they're just flexing their muscles. They're fighting just for the sake of fighting. If the government mandated that you had to work from home, they'd be fighting that too. Anything you tell a union they MUST do or CAN'T do, they will fight it because fighting is what they do. They have to justify their existence somehow.

[@shaunaleeboyle6002]

100% they are simply trying to justifying their salary.

[@Ryan-bq5qh]

I fully understand and support when Rick Sanchez said "They're bureaucrats Morty. I don't respect them"

[@barbaravance3686]

Years ago when I decided to stay home and raise my children I chose to forfeit an excellent career. Do you know how many women then derided me?? THEY could not stay home all day around the house and kids because they needed more than that. THEY could do it all they chided me, and they were better than me because they were women and THEY were strong!! Hear them roar!! Now look at where they position themselves....at home. The power of choice. Let me tell you, I saw through the chatter then and I see through it now. It is the ever ongoing, never changing call of " ones self". I am satisfied more than ever now. I was right.

[@Readytoflyhome]

Just focus on yourself. You sound bitter. No need to compare your life to others

[@barbaravance3686]

​@@Readytoflyhome...thank you! I will take your comment with consideration.

[@CanadianEhHole]

@@Readytoflyhome They did focus on themselves, which they faced the derision and bitterness of others for it, for having dared to take her own path.

[@southwestsearch]

I had an issue. I couldn't couldn't contact the guy who was assigned to my case for two weeks. Managed to contact his manager AND she couldn't contact him! When he finally contacted me, he seemed upset. That hasn't been the only instance.

[@Woolverine25]

TOO BAD, SO SAD!! These employees were hired to work at the office. SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP, it’s ridiculous!!

[@timstever1960]

Poor guys work from home means walk the dog, take kids to school, screw your on the side girl/boy friend . Head to cottage Friday morning and come back on Monday. No results . No one even notices if u stop working .

[@user-ew8wt8iv5x]

Go back to work do not like it quit then you can stay home 5 days a week

[@TheRealCartman1]

The federal civil service has increased by 40% in the last 8 years, can anyone claim we are seeing better service, faster response times or any improvement? It was already a bloated bureaucracy and it's worse now. The first thing Pierre Poilievre, the next leader of Canada, should do is fire half the civil service.

[@SilkeMcLeod]

We should pay government paid members , full salary .They just stay home 5 days a week , do as they please ,work if they like ,or not at all . Wait a minute , here I thought we the tax payer , paid these people to work, based on a 40 hrs week at their place of work ! Not at home ?

[@joeljoshua3745]

If you don't want to physically come to your work place, you must resign. There are many who would love to come to office at least 3 days a week & be " more productive".

[@mikebohte5497]

Big deal. Get back to work. The government is barely functioning and a major part of that is everyone working from home. You didn't work from home 4 years ago. This was meant to be temporary as a result of the pandemic. So shut up, sit down, get back to work and be thankful you have a cushy government job. Sincerely, Canadian Taxpayers.

[@jsstar76]

👏👏👏Best comment here.

[@samg8012]

Here here!

[@bonbonvegabon]

wahhhhhhh someones jelly cry more

[@CanadianEhHole]

@@bonbonvegabon You do realize you're the actual comment crying that people disagree with you, you obviously being too busy crying about someone disagreeing with you for you to even post 1 coherent argument anywhere.

[@bonbonvegabon]

@@CanadianEhHole wahhhh cry more freedumber whos jelly because he cant wfh like us university educated libs lol

[@lambo2655]

I had a warehouse job so even during the pandemic there was no working from home. The office workers rotated between working from home and coming in before the pandemic hit. It sickens me why so many people think they're entitled not to have to come into the office after the pandemic was over.

[@TheDarcycook]

Times have changed. People are done with the office bs. Commute and waste of time. Enjoy that 5 day warehouse non sense

[@bonbonvegabon]

Us university educated libs all worked right through covid AT HOME lol own your poor choices freedumber lol

[@bonbonvegabon]

@@TheDarcycook Only drop out reichiwngers hate those who are educated that wfh lol

[@shaunaleeboyle6002]

@@TheDarcycook No people have turn into spoiled entiled pussys, big difference.

[@shaunaleeboyle6002]

@DildeauBaggins Its job that is required to be completed regardless of your condescending ignorance. Being a twat isn't helpful

[@ctownaqib]

Offices are a waste of money. We have a housing shortage, convert as many offices to housing as you can. Also, why not use modern technology to be able to assemble the best workforce. Not everyone can relocate to where the job is, but with remote work you can recruit nationwide. If the best candidate is in Hamilton and can't move to Ottawa why settle for a lesser candidate?

[@joedirt6073]

If they create housing out of office buildings are you going to pay all upkeep?

[@ctownaqib]

@@joedirt6073 you either sell the office buildings to someone who will develop them or you rent them out. That's what will cover the upkeep as opposed to it being a taxpayer expense like it is now.

[@joedirt6073]

@@ctownaqib Nobody in their right mind would purchase government buildings. They are gigantic, expensive to upkeep and cost an arm and a leg to heat and cool. Government buildings make no sense in our world

[@joedirt6073]

@@ctownaqib Government buildings are absolutely ridiculously large, expensive and completely unrealistic in our society...what idiot company would buy one?

[@joedirt6073]

@@ctownaqib Government buildings are ridiculously gigantic, horribly expensive to heat and cool and make absolutely no sense in our society...why would any company want to purchase one of the insanely ridiculous buildings?

[@taxicamel]

I'm not sure WHEN this issue actually got presented or how old this video is. I DO know that the video was posted "2 days ago", according to the information under the video title, which would be 06MAY24, BUT might in fact be 07MAY24, considering today is 08MAY24. Too bad these KZbin videos do not clearly mark WHEN the actual video is dated as to WHEN it was made VS WHEN it was posted. HOWEVER, ....IF any kind of issue like this, specific to PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS, is considered contentious by PUBLIC SECTOR UNION MEMBERS OR UNION LEADERS, ....then there is a very serious overall problem with both the UNION LEADERSHIP AND THE UNION WORKERS ......that may in fact be unsolvable. WORKERS ARE PAID TO WORK. Because this is UNON, their hours are defined, their breaks are defined, their actual work is very clearly defined, any "extra work" is clearly defined, their vacations is very clearly defined, their holidays are very clearly defined, the equipment they need and use is very clearly defined, their health care is defined, ....and every single detail about work hours and "grievances", etc., etc., etc., ....is detailed and defined. At the beginning of January, 2020, there was a public health issue, that led to sweeping changed. It is now 2024 and these health issues have been FULLY ADDRESSED .....TO MOST EVERYONE .....INCLUDING THOSE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN HEALTH CARE. EVERYONE should now be back to work as it was prior to the pandemic. The EMPLOYER IS THE ONE WHO DICTATES WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. WORKERS SHOULD BE FOLLOWING WHAT THE EMPLOYER IS DICTATING. ANYONE WHO IS NOT PREPARED TO FOLLOW THE EMPLOYER'S INSTRUCTIONS SHOULD BE FIRED IF THEY REFUSE TO FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS .................AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH UNIONS ...................AND THIS IS THE VERY EXPENSIVE PROBLEM WITH THE PUBLIC SECTORS AT ALL THREE LEVELS ...............THEY ARE ALL UNIONIZED. 25% of ALL workers in Canada work in the PUBLIC SECTOR. HOW RIDICULOUS IS THAT? That is the #1 reason why there are so many taxes being forced on taxpayers in Canada .....like the CARBON TAX to use just the one example. Not only does the CARBON TAX increase the cost of groceries to Canadians ...IT IS ALSO MEANT TO PAY FOR PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS! Getting rid of the LIBERAL party in Canada is only one small step. The BIG step is to bring the cost of ALL PUBLIC SECTOR WORKERS UNDER CONTROL. .

[@davidmcclure1621]

You make it sound like nobody's actually working at home which people are much more productive in that environment and again no given reason for being back at the office makes no sense.

[@davemacdonald5261]

It's 3 days not 5 like it should be! If they want to stay home, then reduce their salary!

[@DougWolfe]

Sid and Meredith: Maybe a little empathy is in order here. In my business we work from home all the time. My only requirement is that my employees are productive. So we have standards and quotas to be met. Either they get the work done on time to high quality or there are consequences. I’ve yet to find anyone doing less quality work being done *as a result of not coming into the office. They’re happy and I’m happy. I can only imagine how awful it would be if I turned around and forced them to drive into the office, pay money for daycare and gas just to to satisfy my ego while I watch over them like a hawk. I’d have a turnover and their replacements would be substandard to what I have now.

[@moosedupont8633]

You fired...empathy...lol

[@bonbonvegabon]

Cons hate anyone more successful than tham lol

[@moosedupont8633]

And Liberals hate everyone else! Oh, and the budget will balance itself! Lol​@@bonbonvegabon

[@CanadianEhHole]

@@bonbonvegabon Sid is a hardcore Liberal. Fool.

[@alantmac]

Born and raised in Ottawa here, its fn' sad and embarrassing.

[@JohnnyBeGud-en6lu]

Both these 2 need to put down the cake and cookies

[@cyph3r.427]

Note: Breakfast TV is an OPINION outlet, not partisan news.

[@bonbonvegabon]

Thats how conservative rags roll

[@CanadianEhHole]

@@bonbonvegabon Breakfast TV is left-wing, you imbecile. I don't know about her but Sid rips on the PC party every single political issue. He's an ardent leftist. As for the original comment, being an opinion outlet does not exclusive you from being partisan news. If I run an outlet and only let neo-cons voice their opinions, it's obviously partisan.

[@catherinecole3978]

o.m.g. we realized that the Federal Government building at Yonge and St. Clair here in Toronto was now closed. In 2023, our income taxes got totally screwed up. What a nightmare dealing with Revenue Canada turned out to be. My hubby got seven! Notice of Assessments in 2023. It was next to impossible getting service on line and/or in person. I could have wept with the amount of time we spent on the phone with some Revenue Canada drudge who was probably working from home during the Pandemic while doing day trading. All this because we had tried to do the income sharing arrangement and things got totally screwed up. The irony, as a former Municipal Employee of the City of Toronto, post-amalgamation, retirees lost their Extended Health Care Benefits. Only the former City of Toronto employees got to keep theirs! As low-income seniors we are beyond bitter!

[@ReddyFox73]

At least half of all federal government employees should be laid off or be fired , imagine the audacity of expecting someone to show up for work . Working from home is just a big con job for people who don't produce .

[@Headinavise]

I work from home. I "show up" by logging into to my computer and working all day... shithead.

[@Takhar7]

Disagree with this completely - how much of our taxpayers money went towards enabling remote work for federal employees during the pandemic? And now we are just throwing that money away and forcing them to come into office, despite several reports showing that they are actually more productive from home? I don't care where they work, I only care about getting their work done. And they seem to get it done better at home, with a ton of my money used to enable them to keep working from home while everything else was closed. This is a dumb decision

[@marymarymillidweeb2661]

How much would it have cost to work remotely? I don't see really how much it would have cost. A phone?

[@Takhar7]

@@marymarymillidweeb2661 Several departments went completely digital & eliminated paper files and archiving entirely right at the start of the pandemic to ensure they were still functioning - that was enormously expensive, and took a lot of time as well. There was also equipment & network upgrades that were required - VPNs, network security, etc., and that's not cheap. The cost to ensure federal work could continue was enormous, and to throw all of that taxpayers money away to call them all back just to do the same stuff they do at home, very efficiently, is nonsense

[@mikeohagan2206]

the pandemic is over get back to work.

[@Takhar7]

@@mikeohagan2206 they never stopped working - congrats on your wasted tax dollar

[@rdhudon7469]

Cite the reports , they are pure BS . David Atkin did a study and used randomized data entry workers between office and home locations, finding an 18 percent drop to productivity from home working A survey conducted by TSheets found that 66 percent of remote workers reported being distracted while working from home, and 25 percent said they were distracted by household chores. These distractions can lead to decreased productivity There`s more . Show us your studies .

[@yvonboudreau3932]

Can anyone explain to me why, after increasing the federal workforce by 40%, after the covid lockdown, they can't even meet the productivity that was being attained before the covid lockdown. Almost an additional 100,000 employees and we have an overall productivity lower than before these additional people were hired. The only difference between pre covid and post covid is that employees are working from home. Tell me again how working from home does not affect the productivity of the federal employees.

[@prabhdeepdhahan1147]

If it helps reduce traffic congestion, I'm for remote work.

[@MikeM-oq9pz]

I work a lot of graveyard shifts, and coming home at 4 am I find many of these remote workers' aimlessly driving around at that time of night, and poking along as slow as possible in front of me. So, they've already transferred the driving annoyance to me.

[@JHicks-kt9jv]

who said covid-19 measures were permanent?

[@lindainy4538]

And get paid for 5.

[@ricklatour2794]

if they want to stay home, maybe give back your last raise

[@enfredlindstrom6763]

well im a caandain and i want thsi job u pay me 50 dollars a hour for 60 hours a week and i saty home .?

[@stevepriest4571]

Technology is changing hourly. My wife works from home. It’s safer. It’s cheaper. She saves 2 hours/day travel time. Travelling costs are $0. Carbon footprint is zero.

[@AG-xc5ni]

This was coming without the pandemic because of travel and both spouses having to work.

[@LowKeyContender]

dont need most of them anyways. lets be honest theres alot of fat to trim off this rib roast we call canada too many hogs nosing thru the troft imagine if they had to really work for money... like most canadians.

[@Headinavise]

Oh ya, then you have less tax payers and more unemployed people that will collect EI....how is that better ? You sound smart.

[@christopherthorn1906]

No studies were done about how effective people were when working from home and the incredible amount of savings for both the government and the city regarding office space and traffic. Also BT how many hours in a day do you work and does a car come and pick you up!

[@rdhudon7469]

There are many studies that show a drop in productivity . You are making things up based on your feelings.

[@christopherthorn1906]

@@rdhudon7469 Then why did the Treasure Board not note one or two of these studies as justification? I have not seen a proper study, only news media reports, like this one, making assumptions that this is true.

[@user-fg6th3bs7i]

Trying calling any government related services. Productivity is down

[@Borninafire]

​@@rdhudon7469 You are lying, studies show the opposite of what you claim.

[@CanadianEhHole]

@@Borninafire You're both wrong. You can get studies to point out either side of most issues. Stats aren't the foolproof evidence you think it is, especially if all you're going to do is look at the title and not actually evaluate the data and figure out the potential drawbacks or errors in the study.

[@chris9270]

I can't believe there's so stupid to ask something like that it's ridiculous

[@troyzieman7177]

I work in a logistics center . During Covid not only couldnt I work from home . I was doing overtime because those of you at home were ordering stuff like it was going out of style . Your empoyer tequires you to be at work you go . You expect the electric company to dispatch a team when your power goes out . The police cant phone it in . Nor the cashier at your favorite supermarket

[@shaunaleeboyle6002]

Spoken like a "true essential worker". One of the workers everyone forgets about....the ones that actually gets the food on the shelf.... that others think, just magically appears.

[@qualityman1965]

Let's meet half way. 2.5 days. WTF. seriously. Are we that pathetic as a nation and government?

[@Logan_Woods-zd2zi]

Everyone knows working from home is a doddle and a cushy number. It's great for introverts and people who like a cooler environment like me, because most offices are kept so warm! Unfortunately, I don't get to take advantage of it though and work at an airport, so the temperature usually isn't too bad.

[@paulcooley2972]

if they want to work from home then cut there pay by 30%. get of your lazy asses and get to work. cant watch tv instead of answering the phone wonder why everthing is so far behind.

[@deemisquadis9437]

Mandates are recommends not law. Do not obey, do not comply. Or you give up your rights.

[@abdablelow6031]

Wow that’s not a “disaster” what’s a disaster is the government!! 😡😡

[@MarkOmega.]

The handlers are calling you into the office

[@justabeartoo1569]

I know many who work from home….not all but a majority do not put in a full day and out of those, most don’t make up the time…..I have to pick up my kids, I have to go shopping, it’s Friday, I don’t work past 3pm….REALLY!! What a crock……this country is now FULL of weak lazy people and quite honestly deceitful people…

[@bonbonvegabon]

LOL Stay jelly of your rich university educated lib betters boo who can all wfh lol

[@ernestjensen3238]

This is a joke no wonder the government doesnt get anything donr

[@user-rr1ry7cm9c]

And they should! It is well known that productivity by working from home is lower than coming in a formal work environment!

[@1MinutePrayers]

OMG stop complaining and get back to work already......at least you all have a good paying jobs while we have a homeless crisis, food crisis, housing crisis, crime crisis, carbon tax crisis, gas price crisis, Liberal/NDP corruption crisis, drug crisis, suicide crisis, addiction crisis, interest rates crisis, food cost crisis etc. If you don't want to drag your butt to work then quit and find another job but stop wasting news time on people crying about having to actually go into their job 3 times a week...what a joke. We have actual crimes being committed by our PM every day and THIS is what is wasting air time......

[@joeyalb5995]

How many of these folks that are resisting are actually double dipping?

[@beasport505]

So it's about me myself and I. Most entitled. Alot are probably whining millennial who want everything for nothing and want it now. They should try the real world and see if they could get a job in the private sector.

[@jaym7479]

when I work from home I get to put in a full 9hrs of work. Then have time to cook clean and relax, spend time with family before bed. When I commute to work, I put in 9 hrs of work. 5 hrs of travel and traffic time. No time to cook, no time to relax and no family time at all. You tell me what give me a full balance to be a good productive person?? I won't mention then $500 a month in commute. I won't even count the train delays and subway outages either.

[@jonathanandrew2909]

Haha, back to the office you go!

[@Jesusholmes64]

Omg what a travesty.....

[@Headinavise]

Jealous....coward

[@litterbug1483]

Stay home and do nothing or go to work and do nothing

[@Headinavise]

I work from home and get a lot of work done because there is no office drama.

[@bonbonvegabon]

@@Headinavise these drop outs will never understand lol they are all jelly llol

[@velmano9191]

I think people just don't want to deal with the commute. The TTC, in my case, is stressful and I hate it. You're packed in those trains like sardines. Why are most offices located in downtown Toronto??? Is the air special or something down their?

[@murffromcanadamurf6414]

Well if they don't want to travel back to the office pay for parking having to make a lunch and some stress driving to work in ottawa from alot across the river in quebec and small towns around ottawa.. I would be more than happy to take the job.. with no problems

[@warrendowd709]

So tired of entitled government workers. Get to work or lose your job.

[@neliaferreira1492]

They need too get fired

[@MrBeetsGaming]

They should be mandated to come in 5 days a week and fired if they won't.

[@TheDarcycook]

Your a idiot. 5 days a week and everyone will quit

[@rayneboone9696]

I know of some of these folks who "work" while shopping, getting their hair done, grocery shopping, vacationing - so yeah they would be resisting. Also noticed how the passport backlog happened when they started to "work from home"? Same with the LTB backlog. These government workers need to join the rest of Canada who are back to work.

[@Borninafire]

You know nobody but your tight circle of three crusty bastards like yourself.

[@xathlak]

Really, you know them personally? Positions and agencies? Also, big shock a backlog started during the pandemic...

[@chrispswann6825]

So we have a carbon tax because we want to reduce pollution, yet we're forcing thousands of workers to get in their cars driving to work and creating more pollution. But at least they'll spend money on coffee and stimulate the downtown businesses

[@jonathanandrew2909]

No one’s forcing you to drive your car to work. You can ride a unicycle to work for all I care. We’re also importing 1M a year, which goes without saying increases our emissions. Where’s your outrage at that?

[@CanadianEhHole]

@@jonathanandrew2909 Most people are subconsciously afraid to criticize that because they're worried about labels and being thrown out of their in-groups. They'd rather sink to the bottom, so long as they're not purged from their in-group, than fix the obvious #1 problem facing Canada. Crabs in a bucket.

[@straife1]

How can people be upset that they have to go to work 60% of the time? Fire these idiots and hire people who want to work.

[@briandunn3822]

From what I understand, these people could work else where. Make alot more money. Abroad or otherwise.

[@ELee-zv5ud]

You're joking. They are paper pushers, you know the ones who don't answer the phone when you call about your CPP payments. They are not multilingual computer scientists who are developing new programs. Most could not get a job that pays anywhere near what they are getting working for the federal gov. on OUR money, much less anything internationally. They move paper about and eventually send out a letter with mistakes in it.

[@stevepriest4571]

Why go back to work. People need to burn GAS to be mobile. The government is contradicting their stupid implemented carbon tax . Plus the cost.

[@jonathanandrew2909]

If emissions mattered we wouldn’t be importing 1M every year.

[@kerrigrandmaison7844]

Yes let’s see if they like bail not jail

[@gordondewald8267]

Staff has increased but productivity is down. Hmm - time to get back to work!

[@ShawnBennett-ql6rj]

Got spoiled by decades of self aggrandizing and then "covid". Must be nice. I'm happy to have set a good example for my step children about what it means to have a work ethic.

[@darrenmcadam2318]

No more work from home

[@michaelbeerbados3291]

oh no !!! but they love working in their Jammies all day !!! waaaah !!!

[@fitcher-armchair-sleuth]

All by design. Destabilization ...

[@jeffreyhanna9538]

Aw, the poor public servants have to show up at work 😢. trudeau will have to bring his teddy bear 🧸 and sleeping bag to work instead of sneaking away to some undisclosed location to hide when doing his crappy 💩 job of running the country down the toilet 🚽🪠.

[@geezertooth2652]

This is why commercial real estate is about to collapse. Now that so many people work from home, why do we need so many office buildings? Why would anyone lease so much office space now? Seems to me that office buildings are about to get much cheaper.

[@leaharchambault5796]

Good- we need the empty offices for affordable housing, let’s solve some problems instead of demanding status quo.

[@geezertooth2652]

@@leaharchambault5796 That would be great if that can convert them to affordable housing but when those office building become cheaper a lot of people are going to feel it. Many of these office buildings are owned by pension funds. Pension funds that these workers are invested in.

[@geezertooth2652]

That would be good but I can't stop thinking of the pension funds that own a lot of these office buildings. Pensions that many of these workers are invested in.

[@CanadianEhHole]

@@leaharchambault5796 That isn't going to fix anything alone. If housing units increase, especially at a higher rate, this federal government is just going to approve more visas. They've shown the only way they have any penchant for decreasing it is public backlash on certain things. And even then, they didn't actually decrease it. All they did was do 2 more slight increases per year until it caps off... at election year. If the Liberals win again, they'll just increase it. The NDP will increase it too. I don't think the PCs will but the Tories in the UK (the Conservative party) has increased immigration there for the past 15 years they've been in charge -- a recent government stat showing 89% of their housing deficit (which is somehow worse than Canada's) is because of their large net migration numbers. 89%!! As far as office spaces go, there's really no need for so many people to live in Toronto or Vancouver if even more work is remote but it can't just be 3 or 4 days of the week. Their entire work must be remote so they aren't forced to live within the area for those 1-2 in-person days. That would be the saving grace of this. Reducing the need to develop heavily only in the big cities and reducing the ridiculous traffic going on in Toronto. I don't even work in the city anymore and I refuse to go downtown for events because I don't want to waste 2 hours in traffic.

[@user-bc5gs6ne5y]

Start at canada post.

[@tanvigirme8364]

Corruption is equally high here.

[@ricladouceur6202]

What a joke. This suggest an inability to manage the productivity of personnel! Where people work has nothing to do with productivity in fact many government employees actually work in the field including police and Parks Canada and anyone working in an inspectorate like health Canada, Transport Canada or Food Inspection as examples. What people like is the elimination of commuting cost when fuel is at an all time high and the potential for having to incur additional cost like the purchase and maintenance of a vehicle! It also ignores the cost of building and maintaining roads, commuter infrastructure and the need to maintain unnecessary office space!

[@bilsid]

Go to the private sector. youll actually have to earn your pay

[@samuelbousfield4342]

Oh the humanity

[@movieguy1985]

Aww the days of working from home in their pajamas all week are coming to an end...haha welcome to the rest of society!

[@johnqpublic9074]

Boo hoo. Typical unionized government workers. Fire them all. Maybe after actually working for a living they would be grateful for working indoors.