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Season 5 Episode 12: When there's a difficult case to crack, agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms are called in to help. These investigators have the means to tackle crimes involving drugs, arson and weaponry.
The New Detectives is an American docudrama where world-renowned forensics experts and criminal investigators solve a wide range of cases.
Some scenes in this program have been reenacted, due to the sensitive nature of the show, viewer discretion is advised.

[@5Korners]

I am not a lawyer, but I feel a lawyer would strongly suggest NOT trying to publish a book about a firefighter committing arson when you are a suspect in a similar investigation...

[@nicolegonzalezmarrero629]

With over 20 years experience, why on earth would you touch it completely unprotected and in a residential neighborhood??? I’m sorry he passed and the other injured, I just can’t figure out why he would touch it like that.

[@williamorich7531]

YOU are right. Just saying what it was should've have made them put on their equipment!!

[@streetcar6080]

1991..they probably ran into false alarms year in and year outm

[@acidheadzzz]

How do you know they touched it?

[@skunkrat01]

I would absolutely watch a show called ATF Files. Hands up anyone who agrees?

[@waderivers99]

Maybe, but I'd for sure watch blonde ATF going undercovers. Sorry...just had to say that.

[@judybrooks3708]

Yes!

[@Sunset-chaser777]

Me!

[@skunkrat01]

@@waderivers99 I don’t get it and I’m not sure I want to 😆

[@survivingsicklecell1732]

@@skunkrat01 lmao😁😁

[@malcolmledger176]

"But this time, something went wrong." What went wrong was the fact that the police didn't call the bomb squad immediately, but thought that it would be a good idea to deal with the thing themselves. Even "twenty years' experience of dangerous situations" doesn't seem to add up to much in the end.

[@TariAkpodiete]

They WERE the bomb squad

[@SarcasticElbows]

@@TariAkpodiete they forgot their protection though..

[@cbesthelper404]

@@TariAkpodiete Not the bomb squad because they did not apply standard procedure.

[@James_Bowie]

If that's what 20 years experience looks like, I'd hate to see 19.

[@nancymills1884]

All it takes is one slip, one little over sight, and life ends. Often the more a specialist knows the easier the oversight.

[@25784lazza]

Incredible, they suspected it was a bomb yet took no precautions when examining it....

i was just about to say that

[@Frazzled_Chameleon]

well, well, well. Looky here. Looks like we have a potential bomb! Lemme just go pick this up with my bare hands and no protective equipment whatsoever....

[@nancylongworth9617]

This show's reenactments do not accurately portray correct police procedure. For example, touching and moving evidence before it's photographed (or while being photographed). It looks more dramatic on TV, but isn't accurate.

[@elisabethb.131]

Yes, you'd think they would be busy taping off a perimeter so nobody would get close until the bombsquat arrived, instead of "standing over it". Also, the son was so dumb by attracting attention to himself in the media when nobody was suspecting him. He was wanted in another city and the police hadn't even bothered to run his background after their first encounter so he had narrowly escaped scrutiny. What were the people involved with this case thinking?

[@DS-wk1kn]

That's only what how this show presented it. I'm sure they did more than just pick it up.

[@tintinhickey5869]

He thought it was part of the under carriage of his car? I know little about cars but no way does that resemble anything found on a car!

[@rehab5355]

Especially if it goes tick tock

[@jennytheratbry4624]

Why is it that the large-scale gun dealers get a slap on the wrist, but the little fish gets the big sentence? It's the opposite in drug trafficking.

[@33moneyball]

Guns are legal to manufacture, sell, and own. Cocaine isn’t. The difference is rather obvious. The “little fish” here are 1000x more dangerous than the “big fish”.

[@debeeriz]

@@33moneyball Cocaine is legal to manufacture and sell and is used in medicine and sold by presciption, just like guns it is suppose to have proper paper work licenses etc, so the original poster is correct in her statement

[@stfuplsok]

@@debeeriz exactly!

[@james-p]

The dude who first put the finger on John Orr as the arsonist was a pariah for years for suspecting one of their own. He was right though.

[@katizacebekhulu2590]

Well said

[@INDLIS]

It was Marvin Casey

[@nyk3334]

It was you.

[@marimoreno9004]

I can't believe the son got 12 yrs, for trying to kill his dad, and an investigator got killed instead, he should have gotten life

[@timmyjones1921]

In Farmington Missouri a defendant got found not guilty after going to a bar to kill one man and shot the wrong man killing him , court rooms can get crazy insane at times .

[@RATIOS780]

Just as he's young and to protector ?"

[@marvezuniga9132]

Sickining 😝 no Justice here he is a killer he deserves life

[@wyattpeterson6286]

He probably did a plea deal.

[@raymondrayos35]

Yeah, that's FUCKED UP!!!!!! IF IT WOULD OF BEEN A MAN OF COLOR, HE WOULD OF REALLY BEEN FUCKED!!!!!!!

[@peterjongsma2779]

The betrayal by fire fighter turned arsonist is awful.

[@jaysmith1408]

You should hear about what the firemen would love to do to arsonists, firefighter arsonists no less. As we always said, we’d much rather be bored, than busy.

[@1f5sda]

Agreed!

[@thewoodmilladmin8789]

"Each had more than 20 years of experience in bomb disposal" and yet they examined the suspicious-looking box without protective gear?

[@zylphaaziza3725]

It’s a staged reenactment....maybe it doesn’t matter

[@teeceedee]

all of your responses are so dumb . If youre danger close to an explosive artifact you even take your gloves and some of the technicians even the helmet (or the hurt locker how they call it) cause the pressure of the blast would kill you anyways. so the only thing it does is hinder you .

[@teeceedee]

that being said this is a dumb recreation if you want to see people in pieces i think youtube is not the best place .

[@twincherry4958]

I was already scared when the guy picked it up after it fell off his car.SMH!

[@bobbyharris6582]

Kaboom!!

[@rocioaguilera3555]

Ive read about Orr. When many clues led to him, the lead investigator was mocked and called a liar. Later, he was given credit, but had to row against the current. Had the investigator been believed, the arsons would have been stopped earlier

[@maxdecphoenix]

When they were still investigating Orr, ATF put a Lo-jack on his official patrol car. Oddly, Orr noticed it right away and removed it, but never reported finding an unknown tracking device in his official car to his superiors. They had to go back in and put another device hidden better. However what absolutely damned Orr, how the ATF knew without a doubt he was the arsonist, was when he responded to a fire where the wrong address had been given out on radio. The entire response team converged on the wrong location, miles away, while Orr went directly to the scene of the fire which he couldn't have known existed unless he set it. When he was questioned as to how he, alone, magically arrived at the scene of the fire, when no one had been given the correct address, he couldn't offer anything close to a plausible explanation. This show, being forensic based, so obviously tries to play up the evidence/science based angles, but what actually resulted in Orr being caught dead to rights was him making that one simple mistake.

[@peterjongsma2779]

@@maxdecphoenix But he left a fingerprint. That would have caught him too. Still what you say is quite a revelation.

[@maxdecphoenix]

@@peterjongsma2779 perhaps eventually, but the fingerprint had been reviewed already. There was something about some clerical error or policy that meant his print wasn't entered into the database. Otherwise they'd have caught Orr about a full year earlier. i don't remember the exact details.

[@peterjongsma2779]

@@maxdecphoenix This guy is not an isolated case. In Australia members of rural fire brigades have been caught starting bushfires. It's a sick form of getting to be the hero.

[@strawberryseason]

@@maxdecphoenix He also had videotape of homes pre fire and post fire. How could have known that these would end up in flames?

[@samanthacooperstein5768]

“Despite strict laws they get into the hands of gang members” yep.

[@samanthacooperstein5768]

That was my point. We shouldn't criminalize guns or else law abiding citizens won't be able to defend themselves.

[@jaysmith1408]

I find the tracing of these things fascinating, just as the travels and sales of anything else for that matter. I’d love to know where my old friend is, I know where I got it, were I sold it, and that’s all.

[@INDLIS]

Author Joseph Wambaugh wrote about John Orr in his book entitled Fire Lover. Orr wanted to be a police officer in the early 80’s but he failed the psychological test (while he passed all the others)

[@jeffk7734]

It’s a very good read, and it’s one of those books you’ll want to read over and over and particularly reread parts of it. The book details all of the fires he was linked to, and all of the investigative techniques as well. There is another major fire that the book talks about extensively that they couldn’t link him to but it was a fire in the summer of 1990 that destroyed several blocks.

[@TariAkpodiete]

Plus a TV movie was made based on the book. It started Ray Liotta and Colm Feore.

[@maxdecphoenix]

@@jeffk7734 i believe it was on forensic files, where they mention that the year after Orr was arrested the amount of freeway fires dropped to 0 or 1, while in the previous 10 years they were responding to a dozen or more during the summer. It wasn't just buildings, he was also starting wildfires along the highways. He was a pure pyromaniac.

[@jeffk7734]

@@maxdecphoenix It was, and there is also a book that goes into a lot more detail. It’s called “Fire Lover.”

[@SnowflakeHenri]

I sort of remember hearing about the arsonist who turned out to be a firefighter. I am going to find the book and read it. I am fascinated with forensics. I love watching the process that they go through to catch someone.

[@brightonbabe2139]

Why aren’t these gun dealers charged with accessory before the fact? Once they are dealing with large numbers of guns, they know they are going to be used to commit crimes. He should lose his gun licence and liberty for several years. To protect themselves the gun dealers could report suspicious sales to ATF for investigation.

[@alexburke1899]

I know that was pretty messed up they all cooperated immediately but the lowest ranking dealer got time and the guys who sold 100’s or 1000’s of guns went free.

[@BrigitteGoodman]

You don't go near strange boxes w/o protective gear, dammit.

[@jessicaalvarez3550]

In the second case the judge refered to Carol as "the dealer of death", but yet he only got 5 years? Honestly, all those illegal firearms sellers got only slaps on the wrists, and 2 of them didn't get any jail time at all 🙄

[@tonyboyd7794]

The black man got 5 years in jail for 200 guns.. the guy who he got the guns from ( who sold thousands) got 17 months... that's America for you

[@davidfrontini829]

How did he ever expect to get away with this.

[@dawnitalutz1953]

its very sad a grandmother and a 2 year old grandson died in that fire.

[@angelangel7314]

That’s really 😢

[@1f5sda]

Sad indeed! 🙁

[@INDLIS]

Her name is Ada Deal (50) and her grandson, is Matthew Troidl (2).

[@SeeNoEvil777]

15 months for illegally selling guns? .... and the other 2 got off coz they helped with the case!!! ...... yep such harsh consequences will deter anyone from doing that 😒 what a joke!!! ...... they should of all been charged!! .... who knows how many people had been killed by those guns, they know at least one was! 😡

[@stevie-ray2020]

All of those gun-dealers got off lightly, considering that they're worse dealers in death than drug-dealers!

[@ClockworkChainsaw]

The guy who got 15 months should have been the last one they wanted, the first two links are the main distributors.

[@stfuplsok]

@Josephine Frances should *have

[@saraal8432]

If you thought it was a bomb, why would you just drop it on the floor like that? 🤔

[@raymondrayos35]

Those officers should of known better.

[@stfuplsok]

@@raymondrayos35 should *have

[@tinaharris4082]

I don't get it why change the victims names to conceal their identity if you're going to reveal the actual killers name or names all you have to do is Google the killer/ killers and you have the victims names don't make sense.

[@CP-wm7ck]

Tina Harris, these episodes were originally released by Discovery Channel more than 20 years ago. Then came Forensic Files (Medical Detectives). Not sure if you know. But what I am sure about is that I enjoyed watching the episodes from the TV before the same as now and I sure don't know how to use search engines then. 😊

[@jws1948ja]

One other reason to not allow cigarette smoking.

[@mindyourbizok]

The bomb technicians should have known better than just carelessly and haphazardly touch the bomb. They should have had their bomb suits on and taking better precautions.

[@jeremybennett3909]

so evil

[@rogerscottcathey]

I am most surprised at the bomb guys approaching it before clearing the area completely of by standers, no. 1, no. 2, if that reenactment bomb looked like the actual bomb, the wire could be an antenna and so remote detonation could be a possibility. And why approach it with men at all if they had a robot? Assuming they didnt, first get suited up in full protection, get a bomb bell and put cover it with a detonator inside and destroy it. I just cant believe what happened.

[@rogerscottcathey]

Audio is awful.

[@tonyktx44]

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[@patienceboafo1998]

A whole youth counselor selling guns to gangs who are predominantly kids. Unbelievable!!!

[@taxpayer9546]

Makes the 17 yr. Long so called fire Sherlock Holmes investigator any different.

[@E-D-E2704]

Lets pick this suspicious device up and see if ' BOOM ' aaawww crap !

[@brightspark4817]

how come all these stores never had a sprinkler system or smoke alarms showing zones of fire

[@rehab5355]

They probably do now!

[@aidanjohnston1940]

He used the intelligence from school; then knew how to be the perfect perpetrator.

[@angelangel7314]

I love this eposides ….they always cheers me up!!!!!

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

I love it when they bring in the forensic specialists! So b smart and so dedicated !!!!

[@MrNanpaps265]

the last story shows you that once you become somebody in a field that you have major experience its best not to think you untouchable and can get away with murder and arson. He literally gave himself to the police after trying to publish a damnn book.

[@malcolmledger176]

Those who sell weapons illegally should be held responsible for the crimes committed with them, whether they are directly involved or not. That should be a wake up call.

[@samanthacooperstein5768]

Usually the person who is registered to the gun isn’t the one selling it. It’s usually someone who stole the gun from the owner who sells it to criminals.

[@bigbadbubba099]

Sounds like Mr Orr was feeling angry and impotent and lashed out to make himself important again. RIP to the poor innocent victims.😢

[@thewoodmilladmin8789]

I knew from the onset it was his son, because the Narrator said "He seemed genuinely concerned" Lol

[@samsngdevice5103]

Sounds like you have a crystal ball.

[@DS-wk1kn]

"Genuinely concerned" about his estranged father. Right.

[@ibrahimfazeel3951]

Me too.... Thats my suspect 🤣🤣

[@daisypenner4228]

No a good bomber if you put it on some Ones car and if falls off

[@jacksonripholmes3236]

The ATF does LIFE-SAVING WORK.

[@markwallace1727]

Imagine how much more good they could do if only they were properly funded. The miniscule amount of cases they are able to prosecute or properly investigate is depressing. Gun control measures are almost worthless if the ATF isn't funded enough to go after the criminals that already exist.

[@thearchive2166]

They also massacre families, several actually.

[@bobbyongsueco6515]

297th. January 20. 2022 Philippine time. 8:07pm

[@motherofthreeb6337]

The firefighter episode, didn't explain that when it was first suggests that it was a firefighter, it was rejected AND he wasn't investigated. The one who bought this idea up, continued to track the fires, the conferences and its attendees. Orr was the one who attended them all. Had they listened, many of the fires wouldn't have happened.

[@thefirechannel6606]

Some of these guys need to be locked up for wearing offensive moustaches

[@kelleybrown1666]

Yay science! 🙌🔬

[@jacksonripholmes3236]

The arrest of Orr for arson is reassuring as to the integrity of the ATF. BRAVO!

[@Dad-979]

ATFE now. They added “E” for explosives.

[@stfuplsok]

@@Dad-979 yes but they still called it ATF without the E.

[@tankthearc9875]

show this the maga pro gun crowd when they say good guy with guns and no restrictions needed.

[@clayton56tube]

read "Fire Lover" by Joseph Wambaugh

[@cassandraralph5906]

The last story reminded me of a series of arson attacks in the small settlement of Piha on the West coast of Auckland City. The person responsible was a local volunteer firefighter who was concerned about losing his job. It left his family and teammates absolutely devastated and betrayed. He served time in prison.

[@olilumgbalu5653]

Are volunteer firefighters paid?

[@leemanis9890]

​@@olilumgbalu5653 I know I've never been paid being a volunteer.

[@barrybark3995]

local firefighter near me was calling the station regularly reporting false fires at a local bar so he got paid for each callout

[@jasonjuneau]

Can we all appreciate the guts it takes to be part of a bomb squad?

[@sega62s]

you got to be a idiot to do this job with no protection, really

[@didarden]

ATF can trace a gun once it kills someone and is hand delivered to them but not every good at stopping sell of guns to criminals on fair market or black market.

[@giuseppenero110]

Why would professional bomb investigator even approach a suspicious box without protection?

[@wolfgang548]

Rumor has it that John Orr was gay. He was a real flamer.

[@andrekruger135]

"Viewer discretion is advised"... what exactly means that???

[@kevsecker3182]

It means that there may be scenes that some find upsetting, so if you continue to watch, you do so forewarned.

[@adidas7481]

It must be that we must keep it secret :-) FYEO

[@tarvisbickler3787]

Peek between your fingers.

[@feurigerStern]

There is a movie with Ray Liotta about John Leonard Orr, called Point of Origin.

[@hollyann9610]

Am I the only one who noticed the black man got 5 years for selling illegal fire arms, but the two white dudes got no jail time for same thing?

[@nicolegonzalezmarrero629]

Very simple hun, the two white guys turned state’s witness and were cut a deal for their testimony. Black guys don’t tend to cooperate with law enforcement, therefore go to trial and are convicted for their crimes. The lesson: I fought the law and the law won. They even made a song about it in the 70’s.

[@hollyann9610]

@@nicolegonzalezmarrero629 Someone's feeling bold after their second solo cup of boxed wine. I hope once you sober up you'll turn off the Fox News and join the rest of us in reality and acknowledge that race inequality is real. Or at the very least, I hope you find something more fulfilling in your life than trying to start fights with strangers in KZbin comment sections. Maybe start by making yourself some Great Value canned biscuits to take the edge off that hangover.

[@0soloony]

Sound is terrible cannot watch it like that to hard on the ears,

[@appledoreman]

It's not the sound, it's the overplaying music - so unnecessary...

[@NannupTiger]

very old show...you are too fussy and or, too young to realise that this show is around 30 YEARS old...

[@sistersofthemaccabees2497]

I'm not gonna lie, the background noise IS ANNOYING!!!

[@DS-wk1kn]

I had never heard of the ATF until the Waco thing with David Koresh.

[@nkululekoshabangw7928]

That paramedic had the big balls...

[@roseoreillysievers6057]

These firefighters put their lives on the line.

[@MrStrictlykush]

Imagine they had these shows at the time of the murders maybe then people wouldn’t do stupid shit cause killers are stupid

[@stevie-ray2020]

All of those gun-dealers got off lightly, considering that they're worse dealers in death than drug-dealers!

[@voraciousreader3341]

Please remember that those crimes took place 35-40 years ago, when laws were very different. Federal sentences have been updated since then.

[@Poochielou]

Same thing me sah must be firefighter that start the fires smh

[@cynicannkeel8899]

I hope all the individuals, both sellers and buyers of the illegal guns, were arrested and imprisoned for the death and destruction those unregistered guns caused. Sure doesn't sound like any of them received significant sentences, if any at all.

[@ccyang7039]

Would you pick up a Black box if it fell out of your car under the car? 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️Noooo...! And it doesn't matter how good you are at explosive devices. Get a Bomb squad🤷‍♀️

[@ronpearson998]

1rst ep, 12 years. Give me a break.

[@LawlietNote]

love it how a murderer get 12years for murder and attempted murder and lots more.......and the one that made the bomb and THAT'S ALL he did, he he get life in jail........ how does this work?..... And that po in ambulance...... the victim was shot 10 times, he makes the assailant run and then turns to victim with more bullets in him than before, " Are you allright?" ...... this is comedy

[@Butchcub75]

ok, you sell car parts but dont know anything about cars.. cars havent been made out of wood for over a century. 2:58 and Trinkler's involvement seemed weak. I mean $1000 split 4 ways then half isnt a lot of money for Jr;. Why was the ATF involved in an arson investigation

[@sankiegreyling6309]

Loose the music tham we can hear the story

[@evelyneloiterstein7085]

John Orr was fascinated by fire and arson. At first, he was able to handle it by becoming an arson investigator but eventually things got out of hand and he became an arsonist.

[@jenniferleonard672]

John Orr liked to start small fires as a young boy, per S3, E12 on Very Scary People, "The Firestarter: Chasing a Pyromaniac"

[@E-Kat]

This shaky camera segments are so unbelievably silly! I hope they've dropped this " drunken cameraman " style by now, as it makes me dizzy. Haven't seen any current documentaries in years. Can't watch anymore .👎

[@OfficialDJTasawennateken]

Why has no one ever thought to stop and think that all the people this man put in prison could have actually been innocent and he could have actually framed every person he had locked up for arson I mean come on the dude knew nothing about fire if you actually look into him The only things he knew was all the stuff that he started How do we not know that he framed all those people He could have actually framed every person he had locked up for arson because in those cases too he's magically new everything like he did in all the other cases he eventually got caught for but nobody has thought to think Oh we should investigate this because there could be innocent people in prison

[@fgd1883]

ZC. It's nt easy being an enforcement officer you will be targetted if you wrongly convicted aperson and let go a killer when you have less evident to charge him. Nt easy at all. Most of the time the enforcement officers to be blamed. When we put ourselves in theirshoes. We knew very well the job always been an uphill tasks.

[@friendsoftheamazonjungle]

I like how they always disclose the fact that they had 20 yrs of experience. Well, let me tell you. In policing, experience is like fashion. What proves relevant this year is unworkable and impracticable the next 😎☹️💪

[@kentvene.454]

That's interesting basically when people scratched a serial number off a gun, they are essentially just adding another criminal charge without actually making it untraceable. That just sounds really stupid I mean why make it even more illegal than it already is it's just another charge they can add on top of murder or whatever the crime is. And people filing off numbers don't even realize that they're not even making it untraceable they're just making it more illegal so it's stupid if someone wants it untraceable gun what they need to do is get a privately made gun or a 3D printed gun that's the moral of that story. Sometimes these shows actually teach criminals things they would not already know not saying that these shows aren't great but I'm not a criminal but if I was I would have just learned a lesson a valuable one.

[@mellisagreen7801]

That firefighter has no conscience. Imagine after people died in the earlier fires he set he continued set more fires. His punishment should have been death by fire. Tommy should have gotten more jail time. How easily these people kill their own for money is terrifying.

[@susanlynch1966]

Yet again another video I can't watch as the "background" music is so intrusive. Very annoying.

[@corneliawissing7950]

Sorry, didn't realise the background noise was 'music' ...

[@Poochielou]

Suspense background music lol

[@joelhernandez7936]

Then change the video Karen

[@rosastephens8966]

Ok..i'm gonna ask..are we gonna just sit here and ignore @ 17:31 were the ambulance in route to the hospital PULLS OVER and STOPS because they needed to attend to the injured person? Isn't the ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THE AMBULANCE NOT to STOP and to get the injured to the hospital ASAP ??? What am i missing here?????

[@clairmac]

No some times ambulances has to pull over to save people's life with immediate treatment that requires two people to administer. I honestly only heard of it once and it where an ambulance crew ressused a patient who had no heartbeat then the patient went into full code again and they stopped to ressused the patient once more before getting to the hospital. Had they not the patient would have been dead on arrival.

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

That is the usual protocol load ‘‘em up b and b move out full lights and sirens no b stops! 😅

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

I had an b ambulance pull over with me b in it to b start my I V we were on b a bumpy rural road and I wanted a good IV ! 😅

[@novemberchick43]

I was i in shock. When the box blowup .they say may6 is a bomb. And he went and open it , with out proctetion. Im Sorry too, but he knew better

[@timmyshore3755]

i don’t watch this stuff my grampa says it’s depressing and detrimental to my development. 👉🙈🙉

[@beverleylumb8048]

To say the 2 guys at the beginning had over 20 years experience each they were not very good to examine a bomb with your hands yes good

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

The show about the arsonist turns my stomach … as a nurse we take an oath to save lives and do no harm… it’s the same for firefighters… very tragic that one would break this vow honor 😢

[@xuyahfish]

Those gun dealers are fully responsible for all those deaths & crimes. They should 10 years imo.

[@351clevelandmodifiedmotor4]

3:20 duhh,, lol crouching down over a suspicious looking object

[@jaybministros7980]

The narrator's voice in this episode is almost like whispering! I can hardly hear his story!

[@jws1948ja]

Thank God for forensics.

[@legitbeans9078]

Thank science

[@DS-wk1kn]

Ads more spread out in this one - good job.

[@hockeyteeth]

Shhhhhh.

[@dorothykilgallenwasmurdere1653]

I remember when Orr caused that fire in Bakersfield. It was at a fabric store on S H Street. Along with the cigarette incendiary device, he'd use the potato chip isle too.

[@vissitorsteve]

What this video does not say is that the ATF is not allowed to keep a computer data base on ANY guns. They have shipping containers full of boxes of papers, millions of them that must be searched manually, page by page, in order to trace guns used in crimes...All thanks to laws passed by the NRA. What should take ATF workers minutes takes days...

[@inkyguy]

Thank you for posting this. Too few people no how tied the hands of crime investigators are by laws written by the NRA.

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

😢

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

Geez these illegal gun b dealers are brazen!!! 😅

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

I just can’t believe how simple it is for juvenile offenders to get their hands on b a firearm! 😢

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

Tommy Shea appears to be seeking publicity 😅

[@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji]

I just can’t believe someone shot someone in an b ambulance!!!?! 😢

[@bloopnation]

was David Orr the inspiration for the movie BACKDRAFT????

[@1f5sda]

No. He was not.

[@irenegray3974]

Why would you pick up something that could be a bomb??

[@lianzomi6382]

Some creep

[@clairebear206]

1:33 first episode 16:49 second episode 31:53 third episode

[@SecretSquirrelFun]

20:00 🎵There’s no firearms in this house, no firearms in this house, no firearms in this house. 🎵

[@williamarrington3309]

SCHOOL LIBRARY Test, jailed, Roanoke city police department reports ?????????????

[@Roxville23]

Orr you just unbelievable, how could you?

[@jayrl8833]

This is what happen if strict gun control is ineffectiveness

[@bambilu869]

That son should have gotten a longer sentence it's funny though he started counting his chicken before they hatched attention seeking little shit 😂

[@uangelarenaud2666]

YES! HE FINALLY FOUND HIS BIRTH-PARENTS=>BUT ALONG WITH THE FINDING, {:ENTY OF PLABLEMS!!

[@legitbeans9078]

Ummm

[@bronxbutterflyrivera78]

Wait what happened to the second guy ? I heard manged for life”

[@johnnabuzby6103]

He was maimed for life...they didn't give any further details beyond that statement.

[@theranjithjay]

1991 Close to Boston - SHAY found A black box on the ground and police were called and was it a bomb? Yes it was. Two police officers were badly injured and Jerry died and the other cop was maimed for life.